Thanks for the retrospective. My first HEDT was Threadripper 1950x and after a while I upgraded to the 32-core Threadripper 3970x which I still use. It's a very capable machine for multi- threaded workloads even today. I might upgrade to the 32-core 7970x, but only if prices drop a bit. Especially the motherboards and RDIMM memory.
Yes! I hope you will compare the low-end Threadripper 7000 with the low-end Xeon W CPUs. We already know that it's a curb-stomp at the high end but is it the same at the low end? I also hope you will take a look at large memory configurations. Let's see how these platforms fare with 1 TB RAM! My brother uses software that takes advantage of many cores and high RAM so this will be of particular interest to him. If you do get access to the low-end Threadrippers as well as the high end ones, please look at cache performance. I would like to know if cache performance declines with higher core count due to the increased chance of a cache miss. Obviously you'd need software that uses more than the 8 MB of L3 cache. Of interest to many viewers may be Excel performance. Excel uses one thread per sheet so if you have truly massive spreadsheets then Excel can really take advantage of Threadripper. IIRC VBA is still single-threaded so don't use that. Merry Christmas to you and all at Kitguru.
@@iamahappybunny7640 I guess you don't have spreadsheets that are large enough - gigabytes in size once the data is loaded, 10s of GB on disk. (And yes, he's been told that Excel might not be the most efficient tool for this job, but Excel makes it easy to produce the charts and reports his clients like, and his clients have Excel.)
I always smile at the physical size of the threadripper processors, they are mahooosiiveeee - that gigabyte motherboard is next level, Luigi would love it.
Well you could probably game on them well. If you were using it as a one for all style system. Rendering and then gaming later. Heck you could probably render with half the cores and game at the same time with that other half
Magnificent engineering. Will never own one but love to see how far ahead amd are in this ultra high end market. Makes my intel core i7 seem positively insignificant.
Very entertaining watch Leo. Expanded my knowledge. I have used intel for so long as I just game but fascinating to see these high end processors I will never own.
Leo you must have some money of hardware in that office of yours ! the shelves are almost at breaking point with boxes of lovely delicious hardware. 7995WX costs more than my car. its a different world. But a seriously informative 23 minutes - many thanks. If AMD sponsored this, they need to do more.
Intel have them on marketing however, they market everywhere, on TV, on channels. AMD even when they lead, just seem to not do much. This was such an informative video - I will not claim to know a lot about threadripper apart from watching a few videos, but there is no doubt the architecture is massively impressive.
oh boi. those TR 7000 SKUs are very impressive; faster in multicore than sapphire rapids, faster in singlecore than SR while still pulling less power; intel needs some time to recover from that hit in the face
This video isn’t coming up on my feed btw I had to go manually find it. RUclips would rather show me a short of some girl riding a skateboard. It’s a joke.
to think they were on the verge of bankruptcy and it would've up-ended the entire hardware space with AMD being the x86_64 license holder and from what i know, if AMD goes belly up that license and plans will go to intel
so much good info crammed into 20 minutes, the big channels should take note there is more to this content that a drama based thumbnail....
thanks!
well I thought I know quite a lot about threadripper, but that was genuinely very educational. Thanks Leo - Merry Christmas to you and your family
Thanks for the retrospective. My first HEDT was Threadripper 1950x and after a while I upgraded to the 32-core Threadripper 3970x which I still use. It's a very capable machine for multi- threaded workloads even today. I might upgrade to the 32-core 7970x, but only if prices drop a bit. Especially the motherboards and RDIMM memory.
That’s some system. What price is the 7970x in your location ?
@@lucifersheadscarf6988 $3450 USD / 3100 EUR. ☹
They are very expensive
Hi bgtubber what kind of things do you use threadripper for ?
@@iamahappybunny7640 Hi. I'm using it mainly for rendering, video encoding, file archiving etc.
Yes! I hope you will compare the low-end Threadripper 7000 with the low-end Xeon W CPUs. We already know that it's a curb-stomp at the high end but is it the same at the low end? I also hope you will take a look at large memory configurations. Let's see how these platforms fare with 1 TB RAM! My brother uses software that takes advantage of many cores and high RAM so this will be of particular interest to him.
If you do get access to the low-end Threadrippers as well as the high end ones, please look at cache performance. I would like to know if cache performance declines with higher core count due to the increased chance of a cache miss. Obviously you'd need software that uses more than the 8 MB of L3 cache.
Of interest to many viewers may be Excel performance. Excel uses one thread per sheet so if you have truly massive spreadsheets then Excel can really take advantage of Threadripper. IIRC VBA is still single-threaded so don't use that.
Merry Christmas to you and all at Kitguru.
What software would use a lot of cache for performance ?
Excel performance ? Never thought about that. I use excel but everything I do is instant even on my lowly system.
@@iamahappybunny7640 I guess you don't have spreadsheets that are large enough - gigabytes in size once the data is loaded, 10s of GB on disk. (And yes, he's been told that Excel might not be the most efficient tool for this job, but Excel makes it easy to produce the charts and reports his clients like, and his clients have Excel.)
I really appreciated this - very entertaining and some performance results too. I know a few of our guys in work are looking at 7000 Pro.
Sounds like fun times ahead
What work do you do ?
I always smile at the physical size of the threadripper processors, they are mahooosiiveeee - that gigabyte motherboard is next level, Luigi would love it.
whether you are an intel fan or not, this is seriously impressive architecture
If an enthusiast doesn’t find threadripper impressive then they have problems
Had me captivated from the start to the end, thanks for that Leo and merry xmas and all the best for the new year.
Very well thought out history lesson. Thanks ❤
Nice to see Amd working with Kitguru on this. Amazing engineering.
Entire Threadripper series is jolly triumphant. 👍 7000 looks great. Multi-channel Ram is superb.
Wow Leo, what a great end to 2023 for me, ive saved this video for reference, best video ive seen you do thanks 😎
Keep your eye out for the intel one too 😂
Very useful history lesson and good testing Leo
That 7000 series is really impressive. the pricing just makes my eyes water, but its not really for us gamers is it !
Well you could probably game on them well. If you were using it as a one for all style system. Rendering and then gaming later. Heck you could probably render with half the cores and game at the same time with that other half
Magnificent engineering. Will never own one but love to see how far ahead amd are in this ultra high end market. Makes my intel core i7 seem positively insignificant.
Cant wait to grab one of these in a few years time off eBay.
Very entertaining watch Leo. Expanded my knowledge. I have used intel for so long as I just game but fascinating to see these high end processors I will never own.
Leo you must have some money of hardware in that office of yours ! the shelves are almost at breaking point with boxes of lovely delicious hardware. 7995WX costs more than my car. its a different world. But a seriously informative 23 minutes - many thanks. If AMD sponsored this, they need to do more.
It’s quite a few dollars. Almost every CPU known to man on those shelves.
Loved this video Leo. Not something I’ve spent a lot of time watching before.
Its a good video, enjoyed it
Its an interesting architecture is Threadripper it's kind of taking a lot of design elements from GPUs with the use of lots of cores on a single chip.
Intel have them on marketing however, they market everywhere, on TV, on channels. AMD even when they lead, just seem to not do much. This was such an informative video - I will not claim to know a lot about threadripper apart from watching a few videos, but there is no doubt the architecture is massively impressive.
even when AMD lead they can sometimes act like the underdog. Been like that for years.
@@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 So I am not the only one who has noticed it then.
Love the form factor remind me of the original Pentium Pro! Except this is probably 100x faster?
Great watch that, thanks!
oh boi. those TR 7000 SKUs are very impressive; faster in multicore than sapphire rapids, faster in singlecore than SR while still pulling less power; intel needs some time to recover from that hit in the face
Can’t see intel coming back for some time based on their roadmap.
Fantastic!
very informative
that’s a great system. Would love to get into 3d rendering more. Would something like this be totally overkill for video editing in premiere?
Yes it would be a total waste of time for video editing. Premiere couldn’t use all the cores and clock speed is more important.
I think it would be a waste yes. More for rendering and specialist tasks
Any adobe software package as a rule of thumb won’t use a lot of cores. Somewhere along the way they forgot how to code.
10 grand for a CPU. holy smokes batman. serious power and serious money
that Gigabyte board is sublime 😋
its beautiful
I love me a good white themed system board.
It’s very tasty indeed.
It doesnt seem right that a board that small can harbour a CPU with that much power.
Could have done with a couple more pic express slots on it given the amount of psi-e thats available on that CPU
good video
3:21 "$999" try more like $1700
That thing is isn't a CPU its a floor tile!
Does have the same basic materials. Might be a bit expensive using these for a bathroom floor though.
Except maybe the grout @@pixelrefresh348
Would be an expensive bathroom that’s for sure.
lol
Not an AMD fan personally but have a soft spot for thread ripper. They are bargains for the performance you get.
So you are an Intel fan? Guess you have to be considering how hot they run 😂😉😉
Intel fan 😁 Just always preferred an Intel system. Or weirdly ARM but thats cause I sill love a BBC Micro.@@datdudeinred
Great review!
That pro big daddy threadripper will seriously get too close to ampere arm based 128cores monsters.
Surprise surprise they manage to say it's going to be good for AI. Getting really sick of everything saying its good for AI or has got some AI in it.
Yes, it is certainly a big focus for most of these companies now.
That is just tech p0rn..... AMD are so far ahead of Intel in so many ways.
This video isn’t coming up on my feed btw I had to go manually find it. RUclips would rather show me a short of some girl riding a skateboard. It’s a joke.
Why would anyone pick intel over AMD in 2023 ? 😮
to think they were on the verge of bankruptcy and it would've up-ended the entire hardware space with AMD being the x86_64 license holder and from what i know, if AMD goes belly up that license and plans will go to intel