Thanks for sharing! Great honest info. Does the tune come in the box for the ecutec or do you have to send your car information to Edelbrock and wait for the custom tune before you install anything? I currently have a TRD intake, Trd catback and FT86 speed factory UEL headers. Greatly appreciate your response. Thanks, Chris
could you make a parts list of your set up? I am looking into getting one for my BRZ. Also from my research, everyone is saying when you install any forced induction you need to upgrade the MAF sensor as the stock one can not properly function. Great video BTW, thanks for the info.
Great video and insight. I'm down here in Chicago. I would like to see how different it is compared to stage 2 E85 tune with a header, that's my current setup.
night and day, come up for one of our cruises Wisconsin cruisers on FB. Your car should run low 14s mine should run low 12s, we also have a WI GT86 club on FB... I'll take you for a ride and I'll run you... I just beat a 17 mustang with a tune and intake.. that good..
hey! i just bought a supercharged frs with 30k miles and the build is extremely high quality...but i’ve had 2 belts on me snap already. i’m thinking it’s in relation to the tensioner pulley/idlers and since i heard you mention it in the video, why did you recommend to replace it at around 30k miles, does this have something to do with my belt?
I own a scat pack first car was a Scion tC always wanted a frs it’s boring only going fast straight I miss being able to turn around tight corners thinking bout going far supercharged !
hey dude what modifications would i need to add before adding a super charger to make the car reliable. im planning on keeping this car for awhile and hoping to make it to 150k+ with a supercharge set up you got any suggestions on what i can do to maximise my reliability?.
I got the eddelbrock supercharger, had to get the D box Smoothie and then a custom tune also. Quite a few kinks to work out, including a leaky supercharger from summit racing, which was exchanged at no cost (other than additional labor out of my pocket) but all in all I'm very happy with the kit. It's like driving a whole different car.
@@alexiezachariades4872 i was thinking of slapping on sprintex supercharger, but mostly people suggest to go with forged internals, but all together cost me like another car xD fkin Europe and its prices
You got it the other way around .. injectors is alot more important than fuel pump.. And you only have to worry about that if you want to run e85 or past 300 mark
Hey man nice car. Im planning to supercharge my frs but heard that with edelbrock kit ypu dont get the traditional supercharger whine but you can get it with sprintex 210 kit. Is it right? Thanks
In my country a used 2013 FRS/86/BRZ costs about $7000, add this which reaches near the price of a car, is it worth it? I just want solid acceleration till I reach 60mph and a fun drive on my work commute which incidentally is a mountain pass. Bored of the family sedan and SUV now...
get the edelbrock if you want tons of power at low rpm and down the line you will need a good custom tune. The jackson is good but it will be more top end power. the edelbrock has instant power and really strong mid range up to 7500...
I have a stock engine, 5w 30 oil and Jackson oil cooler. 3" pulley max with a good tune and E85 it should live. Over 400HP will break the rods for sure. I'm around 375HP est...
Hey dude, what is your wheel tires combo? I am looking to move to 4s from 4 as with the turbo I am sucker for traction but 4s can't be found in 225 40 18 where I am at.
I'm planning to get an Edelbrock supercharger for my brz as well as a cat back exhaust, will everything be fine if I keep the stock tune they give you if you order the one that comes tuned?
You should be fine with the stock tune and a cat back. when you get it going do data logs to make sure everything is ok, no knocking and correct F/A ratio and don't go crazy till you know every thing is OK..
not yet but similar build have 285 on pump gas 335 HP on flex fuel and mine feels on par with that. I was pulling a 17 mustang with a tune so I know it's running good.
Not a lot of maintenance after a week the level holds steady and they just use Subaru coolant so I'll flush it every 2-3 years. It should stay cleaner than engine coolant.
@@bh5697 in the first week just keep topping it off, let it go through some heat cycles, then it should be ok, it's really easy with the electric pump.
@@bh5697 you can fill it while the pump is running, I got the special funnel and never needed it, the system doesn't get that hot. The air will purge it's self from the system. in the first week. Just keep an eye on the tank and don't let it get too low.
Sorry for asking this, but my FRS is NA and has 60,000 miles on it; should I even consider this supercharger or should I just consider keeping the car alive and just header and catbacking it ?
How much did this end up costing, with the pulleys, injectors, pump, tune and obviously the supercharger? I really want to do this but I know it's going to be really expensive.
supercharger was on sale for 4200 when I got it, I did my own install and tune. But plan on around 6000. One of the reasons I'm doing these videos is to show what the system is capable of and so far V8 power for $6000 no engine swap.
Heads up, replace the hard to reach hose clamps with screw on ones.. screw and 10mm hex in one bolt. I would never re-use the stock clamp anyways, for assurance.
the clamp you are referring to is actually the worst option to use. it uses a screw to draw against a ribbed band. that ribbed band actually cuts into the rubber over time and causes the clamp to fail prematurely.
@@ethangonzales3000 they make clamps similar to the worm style that are a Sid band, meant for fuel lines, that is the best readily available aftermarket clamp imo
So whats the final list of what I absolutely need for 300whp? Do I need the tensionar and idler pulleys? I know I need the fuel pump, and Ill get the 700cc injectors.
fellow edelbrocker, interesting video but a few disagreements. fuel pump and injectors aren't necessary unless you're pumping e85.. not sure why you're saying they're mandatory. mine runs perfect on 91 octane, stock header with custom dyno tune. At about 55k miles, 10k of those with the 'Brock. power comes on at 2500 rpm which is highly noticeable in daily driving. yeah it's easier to bring the rear out with the power but i think you might have screwed up your suspension a bit with the sway bars, totally unnecessary.
if you have a good tune and exhaust the pump can't keep up and the stock injectors will be maxed out... or like I say my pump was bad... so stock may support 240 hp but not 300hp safely...
my tune is great, dyno tuned by Zach Tucker who is the ft86 tuning wiz seems like. 260ish whp no problem, though I forget what type of dyno it is. Although I’m in CA so the header is untouched. Just a cat back for me. 100% stock fueling. 300hp plus is asking for trouble with the engine on these but you only live once eh?
Hahaha you think the PS4S is the stickiest tire you can get, the RE71R and A052 would like to say hi. Those technically aren't even R-compound tires, like the NT01.
@@angelcano4567 so the 4s is a 300tw tire...and a very very good one in that category...the u said the next step is the cup tires...which is a very good "100tw category" tire....but ur missing the 200tw tire category...look them up...AO52...RE71....RS pro...RS4...all those are 200tw street tires and are better than a 300tw 4s but not a semi slick like the cup tires are...hope that helps u out
The reason your car is throwing itself around is maybe because you're driving like a d-bag. There is a difference between having fun with your ride and driving dangerously.
Play it safe just add 6.2LS INSTEAD FIGURING HOW TO GET YOUR HAND WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE INSTEAD OF ADDING ELDER BLOCK IT OKAY I JUST SOLVED 😂 YOU GUYS 2.0 IS 1/4 OF 1/4 6.2LS SEE I SOLVED YOUR PROBLEM FOR YOUR SCION FR-S NOW IT NAME IS SCION FR-S-LS 🖕
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Well they do tell us it's so fkn expensive lmao
its about the same amount as a turbo build tbh
Not cheap but fun for a 300-375HP build in a light car.
Love the vid, sub'd! This was the sc was looking at too. Looking for more vids on economy, drive, fun factor, etc..
Great in depth video! Thank you so much, especially for the advice on getting a better fuel pump and injectors to play it safe.
People try to short cut things but for a good build these things are a must.
A needed video - thanks!
What a review. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing! Great honest info. Does the tune come in the box for the ecutec or do you have to send your car information to Edelbrock and wait for the custom tune before you install anything? I currently have a TRD intake, Trd catback and FT86 speed factory UEL headers. Greatly appreciate your response. Thanks, Chris
Sick, love seeing new videos on the Edelbrock builds, I'm planning on boosting this summer
It rocks, can't wait to start doing some pulls.
sounds good man
For spring clamps , use the remote (with cable).
From sears craftsman or snap-on.
Make more videos please I want this supercharger for my 2017 brz
could you make a parts list of your set up? I am looking into getting one for my BRZ.
Also from my research, everyone is saying when you install any forced induction you need to upgrade the MAF sensor as the stock one can not properly function.
Great video BTW, thanks for the info.
the kit comes with a bigger intake tube to recalibrate the MAF, mine is still original one, but burned up an o2 sensor.
Love the Enkei's, what's the fitment and offset of them? Cheers
Good vid man you really get in depth with it 👌. I'm planning on getting one
Great video and insight. I'm down here in Chicago. I would like to see how different it is compared to stage 2 E85 tune with a header, that's my current setup.
night and day, come up for one of our cruises Wisconsin cruisers on FB. Your car should run low 14s mine should run low 12s, we also have a WI GT86 club on FB... I'll take you for a ride and I'll run you... I just beat a 17 mustang with a tune and intake.. that good..
Both on E85 the Edelbrock on a stock pulley is over 100+ WHP, it's a HUGE difference.
DAMN GOOD VIDEO
Let me guess, they don't tell you that it's still not an LS swap. Just kiddin, nice vid dude!!!
hey! i just bought a supercharged frs with 30k miles and the build is extremely high quality...but i’ve had 2 belts on me snap already. i’m thinking it’s in relation to the tensioner pulley/idlers and since i heard you mention it in the video, why did you recommend to replace it at around 30k miles, does this have something to do with my belt?
I replaced all my pulleys to be safe, ck you alinement, the super charger can adjusted a little back and forth.
I own a scat pack first car was a Scion tC always wanted a frs it’s boring only going fast straight I miss being able to turn around tight corners thinking bout going far supercharged !
Much lighter and way more fun... but yes it needs boost...
I have a 2014 frs with edelbrock super charger, does it normally cause misfire when you cold start it on a cold weather??
hey dude what modifications would i need to add before adding a super charger to make the car reliable. im planning on keeping this car for awhile and hoping to make it to 150k+ with a supercharge set up you got any suggestions on what i can do to maximise my reliability?.
I agree i want the most reliability, I have heard that ur supposed to just run low boost
fuel pump, injectors and jackson radiator the rest is in the kit.
I got the eddelbrock supercharger, had to get the D box Smoothie and then a custom tune also. Quite a few kinks to work out, including a leaky supercharger from summit racing, which was exchanged at no cost (other than additional labor out of my pocket) but all in all I'm very happy with the kit. It's like driving a whole different car.
How is it holding up?
@@heyjayr no issues but I did add a Jackson racing oil cooler and radiator and dual Radium catch cans.
@@alexiezachariades4872 did you do any internals like forged rods ? i love my brz but when i need that umpf there isint any...
@@Prepelec no, I'll replace the block to a built one possibly.
@@alexiezachariades4872 i was thinking of slapping on sprintex supercharger, but mostly people suggest to go with forged internals, but all together cost me like another car xD fkin Europe and its prices
You got it the other way around .. injectors is alot more important than fuel pump.. And you only have to worry about that if you want to run e85 or past 300 mark
not sure if my pump was bad but it was running out of fuel right away, but i already had 700cc injectors on....
Hey man nice car. Im planning to supercharge my frs but heard that with edelbrock kit ypu dont get the traditional supercharger whine but you can get it with sprintex 210 kit. Is it right?
Thanks
correct very little noise from the supercharger.
Edelbrock told me that whine is a sign of inefficiency
Could use a vented hood for the power cooling but I think this cars fine on cooling
I agree, it used to be my summer daily, but now i have been thinking about getting one...
In my country a used 2013 FRS/86/BRZ costs about $7000, add this which reaches near the price of a car, is it worth it? I just want solid acceleration till I reach 60mph and a fun drive on my work commute which incidentally is a mountain pass. Bored of the family sedan and SUV now...
Wow, here they are like at least 16000€ right now... I'd buy one instantly for 7k!
Which country is this?? They are mid 20's here in nz still
Did you buy it with tune or without? I have a 2013 brz limited and am torn on which supercharger to get.
get the edelbrock if you want tons of power at low rpm and down the line you will need a good custom tune. The jackson is good but it will be more top end power. the edelbrock has instant power and really strong mid range up to 7500...
How many miles on it now? How has it held up?
Can you put the Edelbrock on an all-black Dodge Ram?
Does the supercharger de-clutch when not under load? Or it is completely engine parasitic throughout the rev range regardless of load?
It never de-clutches but it's always building boost so you are making more power even at idle.
Nice bro how much you pushing ?Whp? TQ?
haven't been to the dyno yet but most cars are at 285 on 93 335 on e85, Dyno later this summer..
Did you have to get forged con rods? I was looking at the forged bottom end kit from HKS
I have a stock engine, 5w 30 oil and Jackson oil cooler. 3" pulley max with a good tune and E85 it should live. Over 400HP will break the rods for sure. I'm around 375HP est...
Hey dude,
what is your wheel tires combo? I am looking to move to 4s from 4 as with the turbo I am sucker for traction but 4s can't be found in 225 40 18 where I am at.
I had 225 4S all around, whet to 245 4S and now nittos R888R in the rear and still spins. but 245 of 255s in the rear for sure.
Should you upgrade your clutch or stay stock clutch if you supercharge between 250 and 300+?
You will need a better clutch at some point.
Hey brother
Use the remote spring clamp (sears craftsman) (snap‐off) with a cable.
I'm planning to get an Edelbrock supercharger for my brz as well as a cat back exhaust, will everything be fine if I keep the stock tune they give you if you order the one that comes tuned?
You should be fine with the stock tune and a cat back. when you get it going do data logs to make sure everything is ok, no knocking and correct F/A ratio and don't go crazy till you know every thing is OK..
Have you dyno'd? I'm curious what hp and tq this setup is making.
not yet but similar build have 285 on pump gas 335 HP on flex fuel and mine feels on par with that. I was pulling a 17 mustang with a tune so I know it's running good.
So when the alternator needs replacing, you have to remove the supercharger first? 😮
@frsguy can you please explain the coolant maintenance for these edelbrock kits?
Not a lot of maintenance after a week the level holds steady and they just use Subaru coolant so I'll flush it every 2-3 years. It should stay cleaner than engine coolant.
FRS GUY thanks! I just got my kit. Wondering how often do you have to top off the coolant? What’s the procedure?
@@bh5697 in the first week just keep topping it off, let it go through some heat cycles, then it should be ok, it's really easy with the electric pump.
@@bh5697 you can fill it while the pump is running, I got the special funnel and never needed it, the system doesn't get that hot. The air will purge it's self from the system. in the first week. Just keep an eye on the tank and don't let it get too low.
How close is the naturally aspirated 2.0 impreza engine to the BRZ engine ?
completely different heads and cams same for WRX, BRZ has larger valves, ports and cams.
Sorry for asking this, but my FRS is NA and has 60,000 miles on it; should I even consider this supercharger or should I just consider keeping the car alive and just header and catbacking it ?
I just supercharged mine at 60K many people have 100K boosted no problems..
Don't do it with that many miles on it and expect it to not malfunction somewhere.
Did you buy the street kit or pro tuner kit
Damn…you remind me of Ice T
Also what fuel pump are you running?
He answered this in another reply where someone asked what injectors and pump he had, his response was: "DW300 pump and DW 700 cc injectors"
How much did this end up costing, with the pulleys, injectors, pump, tune and obviously the supercharger? I really want to do this but I know it's going to be really expensive.
Here it is, i’may lay it out for you.
Supercharger $5300
Tune: $800 (Ecutek)
Install: ~$650
Fuel pump: $160-$220
Port Injectors: $360
Oil cooler: $220
supercharger was on sale for 4200 when I got it, I did my own install and tune. But plan on around 6000. One of the reasons I'm doing these videos is to show what the system is capable of and so far V8 power for $6000 no engine swap.
plan on 5500-7000 total
@@frsguy5347 thanks for breakdown what was the cost
Heads up, replace the hard to reach hose clamps with screw on ones.. screw and 10mm hex in one bolt. I would never re-use the stock clamp anyways, for assurance.
the clamp you are referring to is actually the worst option to use. it uses a screw to draw against a ribbed band. that ribbed band actually cuts into the rubber over time and causes the clamp to fail prematurely.
@@jameslowry3208 so keep using the stock clamps?
@@ethangonzales3000 they make clamps similar to the worm style that are a Sid band, meant for fuel lines, that is the best readily available aftermarket clamp imo
Solid band*
How many miles are on your car? I'm 81k and thinking of going this route
64,000 and a few guys are at 100K
64K people have over 100K on this setup.
How is your MPG now with the SC?
with an aggressive tune 18-19 on E50
Would love to trade my wrx for a Brz and supercharge it but already too much money invested on the wrx. :( Maybe in the future.
hell nah! just throw a bigger turbo on if u still have it
cars $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Which ecu are you using?
ecutek tuning
Over 300 whp with a stock motor ( not built ) is pushing it. The bottom end is at its limit. If you keep at 280 whp thats where you want it stock
What kind of fuel pump and injectors did you get?
DW300 pump and DW 700 cc injectors
@@frsguy5347 nice
Can you bolt it on s stock motor . Like ford 5.4
the boxer leaves room for almost any engine swap...
I have the same car LOL
What’s your wheel and tire specs?
Up to this point 8" X 18 with 225 40 Michelin 4S I now have 8.5 X 18 with 245 X 40 in the rear.
@@frsguy5347 did u think about 17s instead? 17x8/8.5/9 with 245/45s or 225s
@@jokerrhe may be going to 17 X 9
So whats the final list of what I absolutely need for 300whp? Do I need the tensionar and idler pulleys? I know I need the fuel pump, and Ill get the 700cc injectors.
Supercharger, exhaust, injectors, fuel pump and a tune put you at 280-300 on 93 and flex fuel gets you to 330-340 on the low boost pulley.
FRS GUY youre on forged internals im assuming? im staying stock
@@Niratic No all stock engine It should hold up to 350 HP. Hopefully it lives and the next step may be a built engine and 450 HP.
FRS GUY sounds like a plan. im saving to supercharge right now.
The stock fuel system tops out at 315 whpish. I’m also running edelbrock sc on my Brz making 302whp/226wtq on 93 with stock fuel...
I wanted one of these for my 2020 86 but they don't support that year.
Its the same
@Carlos.Rivera yeah but they only have a carb tune up to 2018 I think so a 2020 would not be carb legal in California.
@@robelmurph ask your local tuner or call delicious tuning
Long story short. What they don't tell you it's a great force induction. You can click on other vids now
fellow edelbrocker, interesting video but a few disagreements. fuel pump and injectors aren't necessary unless you're pumping e85.. not sure why you're saying they're mandatory. mine runs perfect on 91 octane, stock header with custom dyno tune. At about 55k miles, 10k of those with the 'Brock. power comes on at 2500 rpm which is highly noticeable in daily driving.
yeah it's easier to bring the rear out with the power but i think you might have screwed up your suspension a bit with the sway bars, totally unnecessary.
if you have a good tune and exhaust the pump can't keep up and the stock injectors will be maxed out... or like I say my pump was bad... so stock may support 240 hp but not 300hp safely...
my tune is great, dyno tuned by Zach Tucker who is the ft86 tuning wiz seems like.
260ish whp no problem, though I forget what type of dyno it is. Although I’m in CA so the header is untouched. Just a cat back for me. 100% stock fueling. 300hp plus is asking for trouble with the engine on these but you only live once eh?
@@ahtoomians Yeah, I have full exhaust with a long tube header, around 330-350HP, I'm sure you are at the limit of the stock system.... : )
Is it legal?
yes, and they have a carb tune for cal.
It is possible to replace alternator without removing super charger. Trust me it took forever but it’s possible
very hard I think I had to grind on the alternator to get it in, but i don't know how you would get it out..
Hahaha you think the PS4S is the stickiest tire you can get, the RE71R and A052 would like to say hi. Those technically aren't even R-compound tires, like the NT01.
yeah I think I have to go to a track tire
Go get a dyno tune and youre car would be 100% better
Joking guys
those tires are NOT the best u can get...LOL so many tires out there better than that. and yes i am talking "street tires".
What do you think is a better street tire???
@@angelcano4567 so the 4s is a 300tw tire...and a very very good one in that category...the u said the next step is the cup tires...which is a very good "100tw category" tire....but ur missing the 200tw tire category...look them up...AO52...RE71....RS pro...RS4...all those are 200tw street tires and are better than a 300tw 4s but not a semi slick like the cup tires are...hope that helps u out
also must be very cold out to be spinning tires in 3rd gear. unless you're running e85.
The reason your car is throwing itself around is maybe because you're driving like a d-bag. There is a difference between having fun with your ride and driving dangerously.
With the edelbrock it spins really easy, just tons of power that this cars normally don't have...
Play it safe just add 6.2LS INSTEAD FIGURING HOW TO GET YOUR HAND WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE INSTEAD OF ADDING ELDER BLOCK IT OKAY I JUST SOLVED 😂 YOU GUYS 2.0 IS 1/4 OF 1/4 6.2LS SEE I SOLVED YOUR PROBLEM FOR YOUR
SCION FR-S
NOW IT NAME IS
SCION FR-S-LS 🖕
Why do people modify automatic cars