FA24 Toyota GR86 & Subaru BRZ | Harrop TVS1320 Supercharged Tech Review
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2024
- After testing the performance potential of our TVS1320 Supercharger on a built FA24 engine in our last video, we are back on our ProHub Dyno to showcase the performance enhancement on our stock GR86, with impressive gains in power and torque!
We are excited to release our FA24 TVS1320 Supercharger Kit, rounding out our line-up for the FA20 and FA24 engine family, the ultimate power adder for the 86 - BRZ generations.
To secure your kit visit www.harrop.com.au or www.harrop-usa.com, contract our team or your nearest Harrop Dealer.
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Cant wait to buy this for my imaginary BR86Z
Don't worry Mister. Our time is coming 😎🤙🏾
@DJHeroMasta AMEN
I have the 86, but I can't wait to use my imaginary money to buy it.
I feel this
My friend let me give you some advice that works for me. If you talk about something to the point friends, girlfriend, family are tired of hearing about it. You will buy it.
Will be looking you guys up after my 86 arrives!
SUPER informative and thorough. Totally superior fab and engineering, as well as this video upload. Real badass. 💯Cheers from Florida 🌴🤙🏼
Had my 2023 BRZ back from HARROP for two weeks now. Given all the funds I've thrown at race engines and gear for various track cars over many years the money spent with HARROP for the S/C plus install is hands down the best investment yet. The enhancement is next level: fitment. looks and above all performance. These guys simply know their stuff. Very much appreciated.
I bet this with car with 300 whp is an absolute riot!😊
Shoot, I have a build on Gran Turismo 7 with stage 3 weight reduction, race exhaust, headers, air intake, slotted rotors, 17" wheels and she weighs 2183lbs. With those bolts ons in addition to a custom mapped ECU, and a custom rear diff (currently close to stock settings), she's outputting 269HP to the crank @7500rpms and 205lbs of torque at 4600rpms. All with a completely stock motor! She already feels like a rocket ship 😆. Can't wait to see how me moves when I fine tune the gearing and rear diff. Adding engine upgrades is last on my list as I'll have to stiffen up the chassis to prevent twisting which will add more weight in addition to beefier tires. Will probably want to add a front splitter too. Ahhh, I love tweaking things. Can't wait for the day I can roll off the lot with one of my own. 🤩
@@DJHeroMastaand how do you plan on getting a brz down to that weight? I read the whole story to realize you were talking about a gran turismo build
@@787blah If I were to aim toward being that light I'd. Completely gut the car down to the chassis and weight that. Depending on what it weighed from there would determine if I wanted to go further than that, highly doubt it other than swapping out the exhaust. But since it'd be a dedicated track car at that point, might as well go ahead and strip the engine bay down while all of the wiring is exposed and remove all of the unnecessary bits (Windshield washer, A/C, Heating unit, wiring harness, wires) and rebuild the harness. Seats, light weight battery, engine components, pulleys, wheels/tires. Replace the windows with poly and if the budget allowed, lastly would be to start replacing body panels with carbon fiber.
Realistically though I'd want to retain most of the cars base functionality so I'd just gut it, rebuild the wiring harness, replace the windows, throw an aero kit on it, add fully covered underbody panels and call it a day. From the manufacturing line the engineers already lightened up the materials of the roof of the car and the hood is made out of aluminum so there's not too much more weight to shave off unless you want to replace the roof entirely. As I performed engine upgrades overtime, I'd replace components with their counterparts.
@@DJHeroMasta Max weight reduction without stripping trim or removing the AC is +/- 200lbs off of a ~2,830lb car. This includes lightweight replacements in all areas (full header-back exhaust, wheels, battery, brakes, seats, pulleys, clutch, flywheel) and removal of everything unnecessary (repair kit, manuals, rear seats, speakers, washer fluid + reservoir... you get the idea).
@@Dnias1 That's awesome! Heck yeah! Weight savings of the average adult. I'm deffinitely looking forward to making some real gains like that!
My gr86 NEEDS this kind of boost.
The tune alone costs over $1200 though. So it's hard to justify spending around 8 grand for the power. But, maybe in a year or two.
this looks amazing
The TVSR1320 is a solid supercharger platform 💪 makes quite a bit of power on my S5 so I could imagine how much it wakes up the 86
Yes.
Looks nice!
If I ever have to replace my current Cosworth supercharged GT86, this will be the kit I will go for for the GR86. Very nicely done guys.
YES FINALLY!!
Blower whine is best served with unequal headers :)
Amen to that brother. Quite a few good companies make fantastic unequal length performance headers these days too. The difference between the two isn't nearly significant enough to justify not having that sweet boxer rumble.
Curious about an EJ manifold with the integrated intercoolers, is this a product that makes sense to prototype?
Great job on the FA platform!
The only benefit to running that style of Intercooler is being able to sit on launch control and not heat-soak or run a killer chiller. A proper top-mount or FMI is just as good in ALMOST all cases without having to worry about the pump failing/malfunctioning, since it's not factory. Not saying it wouldn't be unique tho 👍
Have you guys incorporated some of these improvements from the GR supercharger to the kit for the GT supercharger? Also, what is the weight of the kit? You guys do great work. Thank you.
Definitely considering this. Needs to have proven reliability for me to spend the roughly $9k when it's all said and done. Burnt Orange would be a beautiful on the manifold.
These haven't been proven reliable w/o forced induction.
Yeah these motors are trash. Why would Toyota even partner with Subaru for a motor. They aren’t known for reliability. 9k for 300 wheel is crap even reliably.
@gsxMac24 no traction either unless much wider wheels are used with better differential and clutch, so fourth. Just more power would lead to a crash easily.
@@gsxMac24 For the lower center of gravity.
That supercharger looks good, fits in there nicely, makes good power, and sounds good to.. really nice job 👍
I wonder who will be the first to take the turbo 2.4 block out of a WRX. Could prob make 400 hp
More
I want one.
DOPE
These on E85 are going to be too much fun
I need more videos of this working how it sounds and any more indepth video of what I mighy buy for $8k
how soon do we get a new window in the block?
When will these be available I’m ready to go? I’m located in Sydney
Do you guys have a solution for oil pressure drops when turning right on this platform ??
Is the racecar running on e-85 and or plus methanol. I can't imagine it possible on pump fuel alone even with a built block to turn it up....?
What's the total weight of this kit?
What octane was it running when it hit 300hp?
How much?
Are custom colors an option?
That should be around 320hp to the crank. At 2835 lbs that gives it almost exactly the same power-to-weight ratio of the Nissan Z, nice 👍🏻
Does Harrop offer a kit for a Subaru EJ25 engine?
how much additional weight it gets?
When is this kit coming to the US?
Tuner kits are available to order now from Harrop USA in Dayton OH, shipping in March/April.
@@HarropTVI just checked and I can’t find it.
@@ckosiob13 product web page will be up in the coming days. Team can be reached at info@harrop-usa.com
ship to Canada?@@HarropTV
How much weight does this add to the vehicle?
Man, when is this going to be available? It has been out of stock for months
Please can you provide details on the exhaust you have for this setup
They said exhaust is all stock.
What's the weight of it? Can we get some more videos of the track car running it please. Is the price in the AU site reduced (minus tax) for export orders?
Really wanna know the weight too
Harrop USA will stock kits in $USD shipping from Dayton OH.
Did you see this video on the race car? ruclips.net/video/Z93660_FEnM/видео.htmlfeature=shared
I am in Europe hence the question
Does it have rev hang issues when rev match down shifting?
The stock car doesn’t have that issue why would the tuned supercharger kit?
@tone3560 Neither does the Miata stock, but Supercharger installs have been known to create that issue on that platform. It's not a dumb question.
300whp in a small rwd car must be so fun
Do you offer a pod filter option?
No pod filter option. Our Time Attack 86 runs a large pod filer with a custom intake tube.
Would you guys recommend a 2.5 inch or 3 inch exhaust for this on a road setup?
With a supercharger, bigger is always better
Unless you run dual 2.5 out of each bank of cylinders all yhe way. That would be amazing
The problem I see is when you buy a gr86 new you going to be 35-40k out the door plus adding a 10k turbo kit or supercharger and spending more money on supporting mods to handle the power,you might as well just buy a cayman s with the turbo engine and add a ecu swap for 400whp seems like a better deal
For those who want to know the price. It's $10,990.00.
That's Ozzie dollars, not USD. US price is currently $6795, for the bare kit sc/intercooler/fuel pump, no ECU mods. Harrop-usa website.
@@thewheelieguy Thanks for the correction, that seems more reasonable.
Is this product already available
Yes - email sales@harrop.com.au or info@harrop-usa.com for price and availability.
Lmao it just went from dying at 60k to 30k 😂
Will this hold up to track use and temperatures?
Probably not. 🤣
You would need an oil cooler and catch cans at the bare minimum imo to be “reliable” on track. It’s not a turn key track car from the factory at $30K usd.
Maybe even a 1L overfill on the oil., or an accusump if it would fit with the Supercharger on.
Will likely need at minimum an oil cooler like I did for my Edelbrock supercharged '13 BRZ.
For a couple of laps
Did somebody say CARB EO???? 👀
cali boys rise up
Is this supercharger kit suitable for an auto
0-60?
Great power. Can the internals take it reliably?
Considering they can barely take stock power reliably, I doubt it. It’s a Subaru engine.
My old FA20 ran 10 PSI of (turbo) boost for a decade, stock. Tune smart and treat it well; this much power will be fine.
The engine will be fine, but after 100,000mi the head gaskets will go, but that's practically every single NA Subaru engine
@@RW-zh7kl don’t forget ringlands.
@@Username-2 they eventually fixed those, I think, after a few years, except for when Subaru STI's became Toyota's in like 2010. The like 2010 -2014 models. You would think when you have a good 2.5 engine, just leave it alone.
Hello engine rebuild
Ok dumb question, why does this FA24 running 8psi make more power than the FA24 running 14 PSI in the WRX?
I would guess it has higher compression?
Much higher compression ratio on the FA24.
303HP at 2900lb, should be running with the 4cyl Supra, 4.8 0-60 and 13.5 quarter mile, for less cash.
My 2019 brz ts has a uel header and tune and it did a 13.9 with good tyres. This will be a low 12 sec car
@@mrporsche4236 Good for you but I don't think 303HP will net a low 12s, at best maybe 13 even, stock GR86 run 13.9 Motortrend or something.
@@yume8380do you understand the difference between hp and whp?
@@mogulme6190 What are you talking about? The Supra 4cylinder 2.0 engine is rated at 255hp from the factory, and it usually dyno at 280hp on the same type of dynamometer as this BRZ, I am comparing them on the same field as far as horsepower rating goes.
Call me old school, but how is it possible to supercharge an engine with 12.5:1 compression ratio? And without using race fuel?
Modern tech is crazy. Look at Mazda's Skyactiv X, which can go into a "diesel" type mode that ignites the gasoline with no spark, just compression. In that configuration, the engine has a compression ratio of 16:1, on Regular octane gasoline.
@@haifai3916 well, I guess I'm old school indeed!
Thanks for sharing
@@bttawfiq Of course! To give a more precise reason, it’s mostly timing trickery for most new engines, among other improvements such as direct injection. The FA24 in the BRZ/GR86 specifically knocks constantly, by design. The computer relies on the knock sensors to pull timing through VVT in situations where you have bad fuel or it’s at the very top of the rev range. For this reason, you can actually run regular fuel in “premium only” vehicles without damaging anything, it’ll just cut 30% of the power or thereabouts. Mazda’s system is more advanced than Subaru, so the owner’s manual for the BRZ says that you may use 87 octane in an emergency, but do not rev it all the way out. Mazda on the other hand says that you may run 87, but expect a sizable decrease in power. If you’d like more power with forced induction on modern vehicles, you may run race fuel or more commonly E85 and tune for that, with an increase in power without changing compression ratio or boost, since the knock sensors won’t retard timing with those fuels.
@@haifai3916 I do understand how it works, but thanks for the explanation nonetheless.
I used to own a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8, that engine knocked like crazy in very hot weather and 91 Octane fuel barely satisfied it, I used to add a few liters of 109 Octane race fuel to each tank fill up, worked like a charm.
When I researched it it appears the engine management in Hemis aren't good in timing manipulation, and it had a 10.9:1 compression ratio.
Fuel economy would be like a Rolls.... The base GR86 has a drinking problem to start with....
I wonder how it fits with strut bars, i know the perrin is out of the question
Looks like Cusco should work just fine.
That pulley seems way too big? Is there an option for 80mm and 12psi. Along with injectors and valve springs, of course exhaust, should make significantly more power. This will still seem slow??
As in buy the Subaru ts model with all the chassis mods stock, then add this for power, albeit not enough still
12psi with 12.5 compression. That would require E85 or race fuel.
@Daniel-dg3np run an air to water intercooler with interchiller?
In my opinion this is a necessary upgrade to make this car satisfactory. Yet that engine is not going to last long now.
If your going to spend another 9k, and know you will be rebuilding your engine soon.
Why not just buy a better car in the first place?
Have you tested the engine for its reliability beyond 50,000 kms of supercharger time. Boxers have a bad rep for engine life
50k km is about the longest I would expect the engine to last after this upgrade. Too many engines failing on stock power.
Sprintex made 300whp/275wtq with crappy Cali 91 gas with just a Catback exhaust, stock injectors and fuel pump.
What... This is laughable. What Dyno were you using.
@@ZTM_Development mustang dyno
@@ZTM_Development are you impressed or skeptical?
You gotta link to that. I don't believe for a second that someone got a +40% horsepower increase by doing nothing to an NA engine
@@kadengordon6941
It also has a supercharger. He's talking about the Sprintex kit+those mods he listed.
Just put an LV1/3 in it and be done. With a cam you're at 360hp-365ftlb
If possible please make this kit North America - California CARB Emissions Legal. Your company would make huge profits
CARB E.O application pending for US
Seems like it wpuld be way more affordable to turbo charge for that power amd save 7 or 8 thiusand dollars 🤣
Looks expressive, would it be cheaper to just buy a supra instead?
I bet it’s 6 grand. So you will be at 40k if installed total including car. No where near Supra 6cylinder cost
@@tone3560 Why do you want to bet if you can see the kit fof 13k on their webshop
In australia its over12,000 and it will be a trillion times more fun then a turbo car
@@tone3560closer to a 4 cylinder supra price. You could tune the 4 cylinder Supra and get more hp.
@@787blah Thats like saying to buy a 4cyl or 6cyl mustang and tune it... There is a guy on my forum paying 19k +9k of labor for a jdl turbo kit on a gr86....people are ridiculous
Toyota needs to just put the 3 cylinder from the Corolla in this and leave Subaru alone.
Now I hate my Harrop Supercharged GT86 😢
Just add E-85 👌
Is this 300 whp or crank?
“Hubs” not sure what that means
And trq figure crank or wheel?
So the pump became the weak link before the port injectors? This contradicts everything I have seen so far.
…..2650😈
The supercharger is reliable. The fa24. Rtv oil starvation etc. Questionable
Do you have a turbo kit available? Flat torque charts are for old blokes on heart medication.
Mate... You're Australian... It's B.R.'Zed'
$10k supercharger for a $30k car for what.. 90 HP.. thats stupid. The list of cars you can purchase with way more power for 40k is ridiculous.
89 hp for $8000? Yikes!!
Ar that point just by the 2.0 Supra and tune it
As if these pos engines needed anymore complications and stress.
Ahahahahahahahaahahahahahhaha😂
Better off just buying a used Supra for the power you’re making. Still making 3802 WHP without mods on a used supra compared to the 300 here.
ZED, not ZEE, you're Australian.
It would be nice if people knew how to pronounce BRZ correctly.
its better to pick mustang ecoboost/ camaro or Elantra N insted of box of tomato
Have you driven one? They handle better than any of those
@Joshold Elantra N handle better ✋️. Elantra win 🏆 for engine quicker and produce the best 4 cylinder sound in the market 👌. Steering precise and give you real feedback. The seat is very well positioned for truck and daily driving.
@@sayedengine but it's so ugly and FWD. That's wack af
@@Joshold it's beautiful 4 doors that smashed box of tomatoes 🍅 86.
@@sayedenginefwd trash