French Underfolding Paratrooper Rifle: MAS 36 CR39

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @ianturner1704
    @ianturner1704 4 года назад +535

    For anyone curious, he had videos hidden on the channel and only just released them publicly, this is why it was uploaded 4 months ago but hasn't been seen.

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE 4 года назад +31

      Suppose it's getting (eventually, soon) unlisted in honor of the release of Ian's French rifle book?

    • @Lena-sr3pb
      @Lena-sr3pb 4 года назад +71

      @@ArcturusOTE possibly but also he just has a release schedule where he films in different locations several videos in advance, if he released them all we would get a bunch of content at once and then nothing for a while

    • @TheWarDogSquad
      @TheWarDogSquad 4 года назад +1

      This not the old ones? I thought he already reviewed it last year iirc

    • @Hubert_Cumberdale_
      @Hubert_Cumberdale_ 4 года назад +2

      That explaines alot

    • @QuantumCat76
      @QuantumCat76 4 года назад +29

      I figured Ian has a lof of video's shot from several themes, auctions and musea, but releases them criss cross not to bore the audience, for staying with one theme / location etc too long: for variation & diversity

  • @zaqzilla1
    @zaqzilla1 4 года назад +321

    I love paratrooper versions. B/c a half century later everyone went, "Wait a minute. Those guys who carry everything on foot might want a compact weapon too.".

    • @xandercager5276
      @xandercager5276 4 года назад +13

      @@TheRealColBosch Except most engagements in Afghanistan are beyond the M4's range...

    • @KimerikKukka
      @KimerikKukka 4 года назад +10

      @@xandercager5276 Call weapons company, artillery, CAS... modern army has tools for everybody.

    • @xandercager5276
      @xandercager5276 4 года назад +5

      @@TheRealColBosch look up Increasing Small Arms Lethality in Afghanistan: Taking back the Infantry Half-Kilometer written by a US Army Major at the Command and General Staff college instead of asking random people.

    • @allangibson2408
      @allangibson2408 3 года назад +5

      @@TheRealColBosch And then bull pups became a thing so you can have a 22” barrel in a rifle shorter than an M4...

    • @Danheron2
      @Danheron2 2 года назад +1

      @@TheRealColBosch One thing you gotta appreciate about the AK family is they always had folding stocks from the very beginning they knew that was gonna be a thing

  • @widgren87
    @widgren87 4 года назад +668

    At first glance that stock looked really uncomfortable but then the close ups made it look only "slightly" uncomfortable...

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 4 года назад +69

      It has a good shape but if you will use in the snow the "leather cover" will be your cheek but in the desert you will have a portable frying pan

    • @widgren87
      @widgren87 4 года назад +9

      @@zaikolebolsh5724 does not sound fun...

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 4 года назад +9

      @@widgren87 because it isn't

    • @RichieRichOverdrive
      @RichieRichOverdrive 4 года назад +4

      I don't know... It has a certain quality to it. I kinda want one.

    • @edwalmsley1401
      @edwalmsley1401 4 года назад

      It looks like it just waiting to cause someone pain to me 🤣

  • @GoredonTheDestroyer
    @GoredonTheDestroyer 4 года назад +98

    When you think about it, this was one of the few pre-MAS-49 French rifles to feature a mechanical safety, by way of having the stock obscure the trigger mechanism when folded.

    • @smith5796
      @smith5796 3 года назад +9

      Ha. The safety is half the rifle.

    • @CarsonRH
      @CarsonRH Год назад +2

      @##### Smith it's halfway safe.

  • @anonymous2513456
    @anonymous2513456 4 года назад +295

    Reminds of the old saying about French Engineering and imitation being the ultimate flattery
    "The French copy nobody and nobody copies the French"

    • @magoid
      @magoid 4 года назад +6

      Today we can ask why they didn't build it side folding, but I have a impression that under/over folding stocks was really common at the time. So maybe the engineers were just following the trends, after all, the whole rifle was conceived to be as simple as possible (for the time).

    • @tenchraven
      @tenchraven 4 года назад +2

      George Kelgren's first company, Grendal Arms, their folding SRT rifle seems to be heavily inspired by this. Didn't have the sling, but close.

    • @billy.g3597
      @billy.g3597 4 года назад +2

      The French engineers were given a problem and solved it with a French solution. A bit like a Citreon 2CV car !!!.

    • @sidobakul7008
      @sidobakul7008 4 года назад +2

      Actually japanese copy french weapon with a little improvement

    • @jackwacaster7621
      @jackwacaster7621 3 года назад +1

      There seems to be a certain quirkiness if not whimsy in french small arms design .

  • @morono4016
    @morono4016 4 года назад +80

    Anything paratrooper has a special place in my heart, always some interesting innovation incorporated into them.

  • @sirmister5383
    @sirmister5383 4 года назад +86

    I can't imagine being in desert storm with modern bullpups all around, and getting handed one of these antiquated folders. What a way for your c.o. to play favourites

    • @wes11bravo
      @wes11bravo 4 года назад +27

      I'm not hating on it - it's definitely a cool rifle but can you imagine getting handed one of these in 1990? You'd look at the kid in the arms room and say, "What in the f**k am I supposed to do with this? Hang it over my fireplace?"

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 4 года назад +27

      It makes a lot of sense as a survival rifle in an aircraft. Nice and compact to stick in some hole in the plane. The full powered rifle round nice for tanking down potentially large fauna you may encounter. You aren’t meant to use it if you see serious armed opposition.

    • @wes11bravo
      @wes11bravo 4 года назад +6

      @@88porpoise - fair enough. Though I'd wager it was issued so late out of expediency more than anything.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 4 года назад +7

      Wes Harris Oh, it certainly was. But if you keep in mind the expected usage (ie not getting into a firefight with enemy troops) it isn’t a terrible idea.

    • @methodeetrigueur1164
      @methodeetrigueur1164 4 года назад

      In « desert storm » french air force crews had MAS 36 CR 39 and PAMAS (Beretta 92 under license).

  • @Jemson
    @Jemson 4 года назад +107

    When my grandfather did his military service, he got enlisted in the 17ème RGP (Regiment du Génie Parachutiste - 17th Parachute Engineer Regiment) and was issued what I guess would be the CR39 (he mentioned it having a folding stock, and since he went through the military service in the early 60s I'd guess that's the rifle he had).

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  4 года назад +80

      This is the only folding-stock rifle the French military issued, so yes.

    • @Jemson
      @Jemson 4 года назад +29

      @@ForgottenWeapons Thank you for the reply, can't wait to receive my copy of Chassepot to FAMAS to learn more about it as well as the other rifles !

    • @jean-pascalesparceil9008
      @jean-pascalesparceil9008 4 года назад +12

      @@Jemson In the late 70s I saw SIDE folding stock US M1A1 carbines in a "portes ouvertes" PR week-end in the 17ème RGP barracks in Montauban.
      So it might also be this weapons he was issued with.

    • @chrisd8866
      @chrisd8866 4 года назад +2

      @@jean-pascalesparceil9008 I was going to ask when they stopped using M1A1s, so both options are possible I guess.

    • @DeanmC261993
      @DeanmC261993 4 года назад +1

      I like your avatar

  • @fashtaki1
    @fashtaki1 4 года назад +486

    French army: "We want a paratrooper rifle"
    Tefal: "Say no more"

    • @aritakalo8011
      @aritakalo8011 4 года назад +21

      Tefal wasn't around when the model was designed. Tefal was founded in 1956
      (otherwise the joke was good.)

    • @mattford4056
      @mattford4056 4 года назад +4

      Chipsopasta it looks pretty good, but can we get a surrender handle on it.

    • @edwalmsley1401
      @edwalmsley1401 4 года назад

      @Mack Sarnie I have seen others that look just like this,Ian said later ones had a green rubberised coat but havnt seen one myself

    • @ferdinanddestouches3085
      @ferdinanddestouches3085 4 года назад +8

      @@mattford4056 So amazed by yank victories in Korea, Vietnam, Irak and Afghanistan...

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 4 года назад +3

      @Mack Sarnie That's what aluminum looks like after many decades of corrosion. When new it would have been smooth and shiny.

  • @JPR3D
    @JPR3D 4 года назад +18

    Neat. Had I not seen this video and encountered that rifle I would have thought the rear stock had been broken previously and someone with a metalworking hobby fudded up a new one.

  • @tsartomato
    @tsartomato 4 года назад +21

    >>my new book is now in stock!
    >>misses the opportunity to actually have an actual book in actual stock
    great gun great video

  • @thibaudduhamel2581
    @thibaudduhamel2581 4 года назад +6

    The movie project for which "Fake" Cr 39s were made is the wonderfully underappreciated french movie "Dien Bien phu", about the battle of the same name. It was directed by Pierre Schoenderffer, a former french war correspondant that actually was dropped on Dien Bien Phu in the later stages of the battle, and spent a few years in a viet minh prison camp after the fall of the french defenses. I would advise anybody interesssted in the battle to watch this movie, it is absolutely wonderful (and, as a french, gutwrenching).

  • @natalyasparrow6748
    @natalyasparrow6748 4 года назад +23

    Having a bare metal stock isn't just uncomfortable when it's cold; in temperatures well below freezing, it'll peel your skin off.

    • @arcane_rogue3440
      @arcane_rogue3440 4 года назад +2

      That's what I immediately thought of when he mentioned cold climate, i imagine a lot of cloth wrapping(or duck taping) happened in the more extreme climates.

    • @AuzFrog
      @AuzFrog Год назад

      Yep ! And the easiest way to deal with this, was tu put a sock , or the sleeve of an old shirt on it!🙂

    • @laurentdevaux5617
      @laurentdevaux5617 7 месяцев назад

      And it did peel skin off. That's why some rifles had their stock covered with a kind of plastic film

  • @tttt3487
    @tttt3487 4 года назад +12

    Very evocative is the image of these dropping with the lions into Dien Bien Phu. I suspect not many came out in French hands...

  • @ryanallison1100
    @ryanallison1100 3 года назад +3

    That sling winder is a delightful and genius little detail.... love these videos!

  • @davehurst5784
    @davehurst5784 4 года назад +21

    Iirc, this rifle was on the BATF restricted list for a while because the rifle's folded OAL length was too short to be imported.

    • @wes11bravo
      @wes11bravo 4 года назад +18

      @@justacatwalkingonakeyboard4454 - I'll say - can you imagine the veritable explosion of crime that would have ensued if they would have imported these?!? Whew! Close one!

  • @con6lex
    @con6lex 4 года назад +1

    The more I see the MAS 36, the more I want one. Handy size, good sights, onboard pokey .

  • @Tragicide
    @Tragicide 4 года назад +2

    This was the first forgotten weapons video that I ever saw. And I must say, I haven’t regretted it since.

  • @thetruthexperiment
    @thetruthexperiment 4 года назад +1

    I saw this on his wall for a video a while back and I had to scour the internet to find out what it was. When I found it’s name on Reddit, Ian mentioned that he had one. When I looked up the model, it brought me right back here. I have diverse interests in a lot of subjects but this might be my favorite channel based on how often I watch and how many I’ve seen and how long I can watch in a single sitting.

  • @greyhoundTex
    @greyhoundTex 4 года назад +188

    That grip looks horrendously uncomfortable.

    • @alexguymon7117
      @alexguymon7117 4 года назад +36

      I'd still take it over an early STEN

    • @deranathonarkantos6712
      @deranathonarkantos6712 4 года назад +15

      Alex Winebrenner Seriously, those were truly horrendous! If I had to put up with one of those, I’d Jerry-rig a better grip with some cloth scraps and tape in the field and maybe later carve some wooden scales and bolt them together through the hole in the “grip”.

    • @CrudeConduct666
      @CrudeConduct666 4 года назад +2

      Oh yah

    • @adamc6371
      @adamc6371 4 года назад +7

      still looks more comfortable than CA compliant grips

    • @nickrowe7451
      @nickrowe7451 4 года назад

      Honestly I’d jerry rig a pistol grip to fit in that gaping stock

  • @amorphoussolid8512
    @amorphoussolid8512 4 года назад +2

    I love that they cut 5 inches off the barrel, removed the stock completely to replace it with what must be the most uncomfortable hand hold and cheeck weld, made it hollow and still didn't lose any weight!

  • @georgewashington92
    @georgewashington92 4 года назад +139

    Rest of the world: You can't jump with full-length rifles!
    Rhodesians: hold my shorts

    • @MrDgwphotos
      @MrDgwphotos 4 года назад +9

      US Airborne troops during WW2 did jump with full length Garands. (not that there were any other variants of the Garand made, to begin with)

    • @georgewashington92
      @georgewashington92 4 года назад +12

      @@MrDgwphotos Garands were disassembled when put into the drop bag. Trigger group, stock and barrel and receiver group

    • @grahamlopez6202
      @grahamlopez6202 4 года назад +8

      @@MrDgwphotos we also had the m1 carbine and the Thompson

    • @MrDgwphotos
      @MrDgwphotos 4 года назад +2

      @@grahamlopez6202 Note that I did NOT say that the Garand was the only weapon the US Airborne troopers carried during WW2.

    • @grahamlopez6202
      @grahamlopez6202 4 года назад

      @@MrDgwphotos I know, i wasnt bashing you, just reminding you incase you'd forgotten

  • @balthasac9297
    @balthasac9297 4 года назад

    I am really impressed by this huge french rifles collection

  • @bfgivmfith
    @bfgivmfith 4 месяца назад

    You are so cool dude! :) I love guns, especially old ones and how they were designed, and you take that love to the highest level! Thanks! I learn about the coolest weapons that I never knew existed because of you.

  • @nikkigarand7258
    @nikkigarand7258 4 года назад +15

    I'm dying to see you make a video of the Swiss Vetterli rifle. An 1860-80's era 12 shot bolt action repeater that loads like a Winchester.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 4 года назад +3

      He mentioned Swiss in video about first Winchester as they did not wanted the rifle but took the patent.

  • @enriquekahn9405
    @enriquekahn9405 4 года назад +17

    I could have sworn Ian had done this rifle before?
    At any rate, I believe this is the most French firearm ever made.

    • @rautavaara9194
      @rautavaara9194 4 года назад +2

      I don't remember Ian covering this one, but there are a bunch of French designs which are just as weird as this, so maybe that's why it feels familiar?

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 4 года назад +1

      He done the MAS-36 in a video a few years back. Just not this paratroop version of it.

    • @chumccurry1765
      @chumccurry1765 4 года назад

      He did Mas 36 and Mas 40.

    • @MrRobbi373
      @MrRobbi373 4 года назад +1

      "At any rate" is a phrase I basically only hear Gun Jesus use.

  • @BufftatJunkie
    @BufftatJunkie 4 года назад +2

    Very cool rifle with way more history and use than I thought. Great video overall.

  • @pripjatyfighter3786
    @pripjatyfighter3786 4 года назад +79

    French pilots in the Desert Storm: we have the oldest rifle in the Coalition Forces!
    American tank crews with M3 Grease guns: hold my beer...

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 4 года назад +2

      It just werks tm

    • @Libelnon
      @Libelnon 4 года назад +46

      These are older than Grease Guns.

    • @Col_Mustard
      @Col_Mustard 4 года назад +5

      @@Libelnon my guess is survival rifles were picked up among the most up to date ones, it would make sense not to choose the most obselete pre WWII ones. So grease guns were older.

    • @DjDolHaus86
      @DjDolHaus86 4 года назад +15

      Ma Deuce clears her throat...

    • @TheGophernutzz
      @TheGophernutzz 4 года назад +9

      @@TheRealColBosch About 5 years ago an workers at Anniston Army Depot received a M2 to upgrade. The serial number is the best part. the serial number is 324. Yes, you read that write number 324.

  • @marko11kram
    @marko11kram 4 года назад +1

    I just got your 'French 75' shirt; Awesome, and my wife wants one before our next trip to France battlefields!--(but I want to go to Mt St Micheal's this time!

  • @Miithrandir
    @Miithrandir 3 года назад

    Hello,
    i just want to thank you for your viedos.
    I never know about this particular weapon, and i'm French, so thank you for your work, really apreeciate it.
    Your work deserve our history, and i hope your book will be a succes!
    Best regards from a French man.

  • @joeisabella6811
    @joeisabella6811 4 года назад +1

    Congrats on getting your book out! Looking forward to reading it. Great video also.

  • @soldatdemarine4801
    @soldatdemarine4801 4 года назад +9

    Hello Ian.
    Very good video.
    The paras version of the Mas 36 and the PM MAT49 with retractable stock and its magazine folding system were effectively designed in relation to the use of the paras units.
    And then in terms of shooting distance for the MAS 36 paras, the weapon was shorter at the level of the barrel but but a problem in view of the context of jungle in Indochina and in the djebels in Algeria, mountainous area with low vegetation but dense, the engagement distances for combat fire was therefore also shorter.
    It seems to me that the classic MAS 36, so the non-folding butt in the paras was mainly used for shooting grenade launches, the FM24 / 29 in fire support, Before the AA52 is put into service.
    Cordially.
    🇫🇷⚓🇺🇲

    • @charlesstoeng9166
      @charlesstoeng9166 4 года назад +3

      Good points.
      From what I have heard from the "anciens" the CR39 was quite popular.
      I always liked the look and often asked about this rifle. I never heard any complaints.

  • @leppeppel
    @leppeppel 4 года назад +11

    New playlists = new easter egg videos

  • @TheCheezburg3r
    @TheCheezburg3r 4 года назад +12

    I feel like I'm part of a special club for seeing this before it actually published

  • @programtronyou
    @programtronyou 4 года назад

    Congrats on the book release Ian

  • @dt4015
    @dt4015 4 года назад

    SO HAPPY THE BOOK IS DONE! CONGRATZ!

  • @iLLeag7e
    @iLLeag7e 4 года назад

    Push the book on every French rifle video? OF COURSE YOU WILL! You're so all over it, Ian! I mean it. Well done, sir.

  • @wilsonlaidlaw
    @wilsonlaidlaw 4 года назад +2

    Ian, any thoughts as to why the stock would not have been painted or anodised French military dark green? Not only would this have protected the aluminium but made the rifle less visible as well.

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 4 года назад

    Thank you , Ian .

  • @miketeeveedub5779
    @miketeeveedub5779 4 года назад +3

    Most people would look at that stock and say "nice patina!"
    Mark Novak would look at that stock and say "Do the maintenance!"

  • @serenab5707
    @serenab5707 4 года назад

    Guns that fold are fascinating

  • @DaHansWars
    @DaHansWars 4 года назад

    I really have to get my hands on a MAS 36 one of those days, just the prettiest little bolt action.

  • @barryyoung4982
    @barryyoung4982 4 года назад

    Very neat contraption. Great video as usual. Will be getting your book soon.

  • @philippefrater2000
    @philippefrater2000 4 года назад

    I (French) didn't knew this was existing! Thanks Ian!
    🖖🏻🇫🇷🤪🇫🇷😎🇫🇷🖖🏻

  • @ianray8823
    @ianray8823 4 года назад +106

    Last time I was this early the French were using rimmed ammo

    • @theobuzat9091
      @theobuzat9091 4 года назад

      @cody sonnet wait...did we start WW2? The Franco-Prussian war was starter by the French but.... not to be remenber ^^

    • @chumccurry1765
      @chumccurry1765 4 года назад

      cody sonnet agreed.

    • @theobuzat9091
      @theobuzat9091 4 года назад +8

      @cody sonnet Damnn that some French + British bashing if i ever heard some. Plus some anti-jewish claims....really ?

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 4 года назад +2

      @@theobuzat9091 wow, when did the Jews come into this?

    • @edwalmsley1401
      @edwalmsley1401 4 года назад +1

      @@theobuzat9091 well I was with you about the French and British,amongst many others.........Jews though dude.. c'mon man

  • @RedBeardAnubis
    @RedBeardAnubis 4 года назад

    These shameless plugs are amazing and warranted! Keep up the wonderful work

  • @happyhaunter_5546
    @happyhaunter_5546 4 года назад

    This is the coolest French thing I have ever seen

  • @stetonwalters574
    @stetonwalters574 4 года назад

    The wind expose a good idea the less that you have to worry about something getting your way the less you have to worry about it malfunctioning

  • @Foostini
    @Foostini 4 года назад

    I have a MAS-36/51 and it's my pride and joy

  • @stefanmolnapor910
    @stefanmolnapor910 4 года назад

    Beautiful is and understatement! Wow!

  • @erikbender1967
    @erikbender1967 4 года назад

    When I am able to I want to purchase your new book. Still haven't picked up the AK book that you and SGM Vickers worked on. Thanks for the videos and keep them coming!!!

  • @daniloodnedica6841
    @daniloodnedica6841 4 года назад

    perfect one for this situation ! I will be happy to change my m70ab2 for this "sawed" one .

  • @RichardGalli-r6i
    @RichardGalli-r6i Год назад

    once you land [paratrooper] or set up [mountain] you keep the rifle full length, & it would be interesting to see if the French troops ever adapted something as a cheek rest . GREAT REVIEW of this weapon!!!

  • @Gojiro7
    @Gojiro7 4 года назад +3

    *saw French was the first word in the title* OH BOY!!!! another space saving gun that flips out and ends up being silly and badass at the same time XD

  • @michaelking8483
    @michaelking8483 4 года назад

    I've been watching several of your book reviews recently and I believe you haven't talked about any books on the Winchester lever-action rifles, personally I've read Dean.K.Boorman's The History of Winchester Firearms. What would you recommend?

  • @matejmatej3554
    @matejmatej3554 4 года назад

    I'm so sick of all corona virus videos so thank you gun Jesus Ian and as always greetings from sLOVEnia east europe

  • @bunberrier
    @bunberrier 4 года назад

    Retractable sling.
    That is awesome.

  • @MrDgwphotos
    @MrDgwphotos 4 года назад +2

    As soon as he said that the stock was aluminum, I knew it had to be rather unpleasant to deal with. I'm surprised they didn't find some other alternative as soon as the war was over, but kept on making these.

  • @Paul-ie1xp
    @Paul-ie1xp 4 года назад +1

    Martin Windrow in his book 'The Last Valley' about the battle of Dien Bien Phu, says the rifle stocks were prone to breakage,to the extent that in 1950 French Paratroopers were jumping operationally in Indochina with 3 shot 8mm Berthiers.

    • @liammeech3702
      @liammeech3702 4 месяца назад

      How did they get ahold of those old things?

  • @gabrielcarkhuff2670
    @gabrielcarkhuff2670 4 года назад +1

    Just when I thought I saw all the odd military weapons. Honestly, this is genius, looks brutal to shoot though. And people complain about the jungle carbine being a brutal to shoot.

  • @Fantareina
    @Fantareina 4 года назад +9

    "Definitely a gunsmithing project" I think Ivanski Dragonov, who fixed the zero on your Krinkov might be the man for this job!

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 4 года назад

      Pounding rivets isn't that hard... At least if you have an air hammer.

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 4 года назад +1

      @@ScottKenny1978 doing it properly takes a bit of finesse

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 4 года назад

      @@CAMSLAYER13 yeah, I'd need to practice a bit to remember how. It's been over 20 years since I last pounded rivets.

    • @Fantareina
      @Fantareina 4 года назад +2

      @@ScottKenny1978 ruclips.net/video/8wZBjhpJFbQ/видео.html the craftsman in question

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 4 года назад +2

      @@Fantareina ah, that guy.

  • @jamesranger6283
    @jamesranger6283 4 года назад

    Really enjoyed this vid. Very cool rifle.

  • @BearClawAK47
    @BearClawAK47 3 года назад

    I recently purchase one of these rifles. It seems to go against the conventional wisdom. The model number is not centered on the receiver and the serial number is out of the range date. The serial number is also not in a strait line and starts with a letter, just like the rifle in the video. The font of the letters and numbers match my other rifles, so they look factory. The receiver does have the square tang and proper length barrel with a factory crown. The stock has a "X" in the center on the left side. The front sight is fully enclosed. Any opinions?

  • @harrisonbuck2749
    @harrisonbuck2749 4 года назад

    Ian do you think they started the Serial numbers at 1? Best examples of countries messing with serial numbers to confuse the enemy on number of weapons manufactured?

  • @williamprince1114
    @williamprince1114 4 года назад

    Did the French ever issue CR39 as a wood stocked version? Or was there a MAS 36 Carbine similar in barrel length to the 39? Years ago I shot one at a event and was told it was 'mountain division' gun

  • @CrudeConduct666
    @CrudeConduct666 4 года назад

    Not the biggest folding stock fan, but I still love it.

  • @earlmcmanus194
    @earlmcmanus194 4 года назад +1

    Finally found the perfect truck gun.

  • @azores15
    @azores15 4 года назад

    Great channel! Don't know why I haven't already subscribed.

  • @oldgoat1890
    @oldgoat1890 4 года назад

    A very informative video. Occasionally I see fakes for sale, sometimes unintentional. I remember a major importer selling the stocks, but I don't think it was Centrey. Probably before you were born. A lot of the MAS 36 rifles were converted by guys just playing around without the intention of fraud. However, once the CR is stamped on it, that is something else.

  • @CzechoslovakGunStories
    @CzechoslovakGunStories 4 года назад

    wow, I never even heard of that... now I can see it.. thx Ian :)

  • @nathanr6381
    @nathanr6381 4 года назад

    How long are you selling this book for? I definetly want to get it at some point but don't have the cash yet :(

  • @PrototypeSpaceMonkey
    @PrototypeSpaceMonkey 4 года назад +2

    Oh dear, two MAS 36's together in one video... hope the Good Idea Fairy doesn't pay a visit.

  • @novauviolon
    @novauviolon 4 года назад

    So prewar MAS 36 CR39 followers would prevent the bolt from closing when empty, postwar switching to allowing it to close when empty, but regular MAS 36 rifles went through the reverse process (prewar = can close when empty; postwar = follower blocks when empty)? Is there a reason this difference was made between the two rifles?

  • @meansartin
    @meansartin 4 года назад +1

    That's pretty freaking neat

  • @LeewardStudios
    @LeewardStudios 4 года назад +4

    Here’s an idea, do a video on the arms used by the French in the classic film Day of the Jackal

  • @esr243
    @esr243 4 года назад

    In 1978-1979, we worked quite extensively with French Airborne troops. They were still issued MAS 36 back then, the barrel was shorter but the stocks were in wood and not foldable ... Also the French had no significant airborne troops prior to to the beginning of WWII ...

  • @12gageshot
    @12gageshot 4 года назад

    The book is great.

  • @notrut
    @notrut 4 года назад

    Fascinating ...Thanks.

  • @thetruthexperiment
    @thetruthexperiment 4 года назад

    Why does corrosion, or oxidation pattern such a perfect fractal on the aluminum? Isn’t that weird?

  • @CeltKnight
    @CeltKnight 4 года назад +1

    Want to defeat Coronovirus? Stay at home, order Ian's book, sit back with a good whiskey and read it cover to cover. :)
    Ian's book ... it's more than a fun encyclopedia, it's a public health service! :)

  • @TheLonelyCasual9368
    @TheLonelyCasual9368 4 года назад

    The single most French gun I have seen.
    The one thing that could make it even more French is if the trigger was a corkscrew

  • @stanislavczebinski994
    @stanislavczebinski994 4 года назад

    The sling winder reminds me of our German rolling window-blinds - same type of mechanism.

  • @charles_wipman
    @charles_wipman 4 года назад +1

    Looks interesting and rare, but agree that... that aluminum stock would suck to shoot, hold or have the face gainist in many situations.

  • @yesthecrumbs5806
    @yesthecrumbs5806 4 года назад

    I was just thinking about if there was any bolt actions with folding stocks, then i saw this notification. Thanks Ian

    • @fg42t2
      @fg42t2 4 года назад

      The Germans made a 98 K with a stock that folded at the wrist,and the Japanese made crude under folding stock model also. It would be great to compare all 3.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 4 года назад

      The modern accuracy international rifles and us army m2010 have side folding stocks. Helps make them more portable.

  • @jh8146
    @jh8146 4 года назад +2

    Ian "Today we are looking at a French...." Me (Hits LIKE immediately)

  • @patfilice
    @patfilice 4 года назад

    My favorite mas 36 variant

  • @bobythepianist
    @bobythepianist 4 года назад +1

    Hello there ! Nice piece of history !
    By the way, do you know when preordered French Rifle Books will arrive in France ?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  4 года назад +2

      The first ones should be arriving this week.

    • @bobythepianist
      @bobythepianist 4 года назад +1

      @@ForgottenWeapons I am sooooo excited finaly having it ! And I'll also be able to offer my two friends there Christmas gift !
      Thank you !

  • @buddyguy4723
    @buddyguy4723 4 года назад

    thats a fancy book cover

  • @Abdal-RahmanI
    @Abdal-RahmanI 4 года назад

    What a nifty gun.

  • @lottjohp
    @lottjohp 4 года назад

    If you want to see this rifle in action, get your hands on the old TV show The Wild Wild West, "The Night of the Legion of Death", Season 3 Disc 3. As an added bonus, this is the super rare GOLD version of the rifle.

  • @fastmongrel
    @fastmongrel 4 года назад

    You wrote a book!!! first time I heard about it you should have mentioned it before

  • @alexanderthomas2660
    @alexanderthomas2660 4 года назад

    That sling winding system looks a lot like the winding system for the rolling shutter ribbons of many a window in our house…

  • @mikewilburn5884
    @mikewilburn5884 4 года назад

    Very slick for a ww2 folding stock.

  • @methodeetrigueur1164
    @methodeetrigueur1164 4 года назад

    Ian, does your book on french rifles exist, translated in french ?

    • @methodeetrigueur1164
      @methodeetrigueur1164 4 года назад

      I think it would be interesting to get american point of vue on this subject, but in french.

  • @timbrwolf1121
    @timbrwolf1121 4 года назад

    Okay this one is really cool.

  • @randywatson8347
    @randywatson8347 4 года назад

    Now that's a neat folding stock. Though I would mount a side hinged front grip for the fingers by pure grip pressure (not ambidextrous though)

  • @morganchaput5376
    @morganchaput5376 4 года назад

    Yes! Finally!

  • @trr94001
    @trr94001 4 года назад +14

    That aluminum stock almost looks worm eaten. Given that it’s a casting I wonder how much of that surface texture came from the factory.

    • @mereth13
      @mereth13 4 года назад +13

      That kind of grain/pattern/coloration can happen with aluminum that has a lot of impurities in it or is alloyed in odd ways. As to the texture itself, I'd guess that the castings were not particularly well finished in the first place (beyond deburring), but aging of aluminum via exposure to air and other elements naturally eats away at the material, a process that's definitely made worse by the finish.

  • @davidlacoste
    @davidlacoste 4 года назад

    Ian, will your book be avaible to buy in PDF edition?

  • @Ratlstrap
    @Ratlstrap 4 года назад

    I saw an example of one of these rifles when I was little with an M1C type leather cheek pad. Is that most likely aftermarket swap or were there ever military issue pads like that?