Quick Backstory of GTR band: The Collision of 'Genesis' and 'Yes'

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • Backstory of GTR band, a supergroup formed in 1985 that feature Steve Hackett and Steve Howe.
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Комментарии • 74

  • @astrosjer822
    @astrosjer822 4 месяца назад +7

    Liked Max Bacon as a singer “When the Heart Rules the Mind” is a great 80’s Pop/Rock hit song

  • @toddcastle3926
    @toddcastle3926 2 месяца назад +1

    Great Documentary

  • @lornestein7248
    @lornestein7248 Месяц назад +1

    Saw GTR in Toronto. Still got Jon Mover's drumstick!

  • @randlerobbertson8792
    @randlerobbertson8792 4 месяца назад +6

    Saw GTR. Great shows.

    • @steeleye2112
      @steeleye2112 3 месяца назад

      Absolutely, it was a fantastic concert, wish it had been captured.

  • @Onehappyworlds
    @Onehappyworlds 2 месяца назад +1

    Loved GTR. One of my favorites. Wish they could've done at least did one more album. But like Steve Hackett said in a another interview it was costly to keep it on the road.

  • @timnoble1385
    @timnoble1385 4 месяца назад +6

    I enjoyed the GTR album. It was my first vinyl album. I was eleven. What did I know?

  • @kennybluet5527
    @kennybluet5527 2 месяца назад +3

    Haha. Looks like i'm the only one who liked this album , although i always thought the mix was kind of tinny sounding.

  • @ProgRockDreams
    @ProgRockDreams Месяц назад

    I saw them live in the UK and they were great. Singer fell over on stage and I'll never forget the look on both their faces - singer recovered very well and he was enthusiastic, but it was a funny moment, yet omg the music they made that night was brilliant. Shame the band didn't go further for a few years. They have both done great music since. I saw Steve Hackett in 2022 Melbourne and Brisbane, did a meet and greet in Malta 2019 which was the best experience of my life ever meeting the musicians etc. Just hoping they both head down under soon. I heard Steve Hackett is doing the Close to the Edge Cruise next year. Oh how I wish I could go.

  • @jimbrown7196
    @jimbrown7196 4 месяца назад +4

    Max Bacon. Sounds like a breakfast option.

  • @merrywissemes
    @merrywissemes Месяц назад +1

    I’d love to hear somebody remix this album. Especially the drums.

    • @smitbar11
      @smitbar11 Месяц назад +1

      Mover is a great drummer

  • @JohnMoody-n5c
    @JohnMoody-n5c Месяц назад

    I have that GTR album on cassette!

  • @smitbar11
    @smitbar11 Месяц назад

    I wouldn't imagine that Howe is the easiest person to work with!

  • @PeterGrenader
    @PeterGrenader 4 месяца назад +8

    What's with the lounge music?

    • @TheSamsdad25
      @TheSamsdad25 4 месяца назад +1

      😊 I didn't even hear it until you brought it up. Now it's all I hear.... Like Mr Rogers background music

  • @wrestledeep
    @wrestledeep 4 месяца назад +4

    Great video. thanks. I think there must be more regarding Hackett's departure from the band. The financial stuff just doesn't make sense. Was there any friction (competition) between the two guitarists? I saw an interview recently regarding the big Yes Reunion Tour which revealed that Steve Howe vehemently denied original Yes Guitarist, Peter Banks to be part of the onstage lineup (even though he was in the audience). What is going on there? I would LOVE to see more informative clips about Progressive Bands like Yes. For example no one has really covered the making of Close to the Edge. Also I hear it is a very interesting story how Trevor Rabin and Yes gradually became one unit to create the most successful album of their career. Keep up the great work

    • @GrooveyRecordVinyl
      @GrooveyRecordVinyl  4 месяца назад +2

      Thank you for your kind comment. Actually the information of gtr are actually quite uncertain in various of online sources, but I believe the authority answer of it was the operational costs of the group exceeded the profits. Howe wanted to invest in a recording studio, while Hackett planned to purchase better equipment. Coupled with management's demands for various remixes, in a situation where funds were neither coming in nor going out, even tho GTR's reputation is there, Hackett still decided to leave instead trying to increase any debts possible.

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, I agree. In the eighties a lot of pop music was simply money laundering. Depending on percentages, you can be working more and earning less, that happened to all kinds of people. Peopel really aren't aware of how corrupt the entertainment industry is.
      Hackett has said the company was essentially bankrupt. Now given how much money is being made by tours and albums it seems hard to believe "we need to buy equipment" or "we can't afford studio time" is any kind of realistic excuse.
      I suspect since Hackett wasnt a huge name and Howe was, that Hackett maybe had to sign in under less than generous conditions and felt that continuing wasn't going to help.
      EVERYBODY has to put food on the table, so given that he was in a successful band and still thought it better "to work on my own" then obviously there are unknown considerations there. As you say, Howe seems to have a bit of a problem with other guitarists, so I'm kind of suspecting it was a case of Hackett thinking "if I'm not makign BIG money then I'll be damned if I'm going to work with another Tony Banks....and a Tony Banks on my own instrument". But outside Pink Floyd most of these guys really don't like slinging mud much in public, so I suspect its a combination of those two things.

    • @Dirgnimai7
      @Dirgnimai7 4 месяца назад

      @@mikearchibald744 That is a massive amount of speculation. I see no legitimate reason to doubt what he said. It was not going to be financially viable. And in fact, it was going to be significant financial loss. Why would he stay in a band that was only going to incur financial debt to him?

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 4 месяца назад

      @@Dirgnimai7 Yeah, thats why I wrote 'I suspect". But how often do you hear artists say "Boy I hope I can have a hit album so we can go bankrupt"

    • @bookhouseboy280
      @bookhouseboy280 4 месяца назад

      Howe explained that he and Hackett approached their collaboration from different perspectives. Hackett had grown accustomed to working independently with his own band, while Howe had been in long-term band commitments and viewed himself as maybe more of a team-oriented player. He said that he took responsibility for any issues that arose, stating that he may have needed to make more effort to accommodate Hackett's preferences as Hackett increasingly distanced himself from the project. As far as Howe and Banks are concerned, the former to my knowledge has always been complimentary of the latter who has, well, not always done the same. According to Banks' former bandmates in Yes and Flash, he was not easy to get along with and apparently self-medicated with booze.

  • @fueledbylove
    @fueledbylove 2 месяца назад

    I was only interested in Howe the demise of GTR came about, not surprised. lol.

  • @davidhaspell6417
    @davidhaspell6417 4 месяца назад +2

    Used to watch Max Bacon in Bands in mid Cheshire late 70's. GTR didn't suit him, more a heavy rock vocalist and a damn fine one too.

  • @chulamente
    @chulamente 14 дней назад

    What’s up with calling it “Yes band” and “Genesis band” rather than just Yes or Genesis?

  • @IThinkYouLookLarvely
    @IThinkYouLookLarvely 4 месяца назад +1

    1:56 I keep forgetting Steve is Nick Heyward's brother 🤔🙂

  • @impalaman9707
    @impalaman9707 4 месяца назад +2

    In theory. the concept of an all-guitar prog rock band sounds intriguing, but in practice--came out corny as guitars make synth noises!🤣🤣

  • @stormbringercoming8105
    @stormbringercoming8105 4 месяца назад +15

    The GTR album was weak and did neither guitarist any justice.
    I’m guessing Hackett split because nothing was happening, and Howe is a pain to deal with. He doesn’t like other guitarists to share the spotlight with. Ask Trevor Rabin.

    • @davidhaspell6417
      @davidhaspell6417 4 месяца назад

      Howe a pain full stop.

    • @jayem1826
      @jayem1826 4 месяца назад +1

      I rented that CD. Nothing to write home about.
      Did hackett have financial problems. Good. He was a dick when I met Genesis in Buffalo, NY. Although I do have his LP'S. I'm NOT a total dick

    • @squire4463
      @squire4463 4 месяца назад

      Bought the album (though it’s spent most of past 35+ years sitting on the shelf). Bought it because I loved both Howe in Yes and Hackett in Genesis. Still do (the 1970s era). Still listen to 1970s Yes and Genesis. IMHO, that music stands the test of time.
      GTR. Bacon sung well enough. Howe and Hackett played well enough. But there was simply no magic there. Certainly nothing like 1970s Yes and Genesis magic.
      At least Hackett managed to pull off a mean Clint Eastwood impersonation.

    • @stevenaustin8274
      @stevenaustin8274 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jayem1826 do you think ? from the comments you've made I'm not so sure

    • @fenderstratocastertelecast8479
      @fenderstratocastertelecast8479 4 месяца назад

      So weird, because of howe meeting with Hackett. An according to.genesis guitarist the so called Split was because financial issues in England. Try to.do a little reseach before the comments. Hackett Is a Constance in.the "Cruise to.the edge" powered by..... YES

  • @giovanni5268
    @giovanni5268 4 месяца назад

    Next video could be about Marillion story

  • @mobilepsycho
    @mobilepsycho 2 месяца назад

    A shame GTR only had the one album.

  • @tableface77
    @tableface77 4 месяца назад +5

    Ooogh not my cup of tea at all. This was Hackett's darkest hour - and Howes for that matter. Horrible 80's MOR/AOR shiny aerobic leotard poodle rock for the most part.

    • @nested_King
      @nested_King 2 месяца назад

      Love your description!

    • @fueledbylove
      @fueledbylove 2 месяца назад

      There is nothing worse than shiny aerobic leotard poodle rock. heh.

  • @barrysmith7710
    @barrysmith7710 4 месяца назад +1

    shouldn't it be collision?

  • @frodofraggins
    @frodofraggins 4 месяца назад +5

    An AI voice with some terrible grammar. /sigh

    • @therealniksongs
      @therealniksongs 4 месяца назад

      Exactly. Sounds like it was written by someone unfamiliar with the English language.

    • @GrooveyRecordVinyl
      @GrooveyRecordVinyl  4 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for your generous advice, will try to do better

    • @rickstermandude
      @rickstermandude 3 месяца назад +1

      Still don’t understand why you would make a video like this without correcting the grammar first.

  • @booshting3520
    @booshting3520 4 месяца назад +1

    GTR was just too AOR for me.

  • @kibitznec700
    @kibitznec700 4 месяца назад +3

    jd considine was SHIT

    • @-RandomBiz-
      @-RandomBiz- 3 месяца назад

      All he did was lift from Spinal Tap (Shark Sandwich / Shit Sandwich) and that was his proudest moment.
      Whatevs....history will remember Howe and Hackett first.

  • @jkorshak
    @jkorshak 4 месяца назад

    Technical note: the whole let's see words/names "typed" on screen accompanied by loud clacks of a keyboard is beyond trite, unoriginal, and distracts.

  • @olyartrockguy
    @olyartrockguy 4 месяца назад +3

    Horrible Ai narration on this.

  • @keymusic
    @keymusic Месяц назад

    His name is Geoff Downes not Geoff Down. I'm really starting to hate AI. I stopped watching this after 20 seconds.

  • @alistairblack3293
    @alistairblack3293 4 месяца назад

    Sounded too much like a mediocre MOR Asia album imho. Only decent tracks were the obvious Hackett led compositions.

  • @RubUOutC
    @RubUOutC Месяц назад

    Is this AI? What’s up with the grammar?

  • @petermoylan6644
    @petermoylan6644 4 месяца назад +5

    Was not impressed with GTR album, went for a pop sound, singers voice was annoying, saw them live at the time, decades ago, can’t remember much

    • @kibitznec700
      @kibitznec700 4 месяца назад

      Lo que asap es that ut tienes le otsug en the ollidfun.

    • @fenderstratocastertelecast8479
      @fenderstratocastertelecast8479 4 месяца назад +3

      Pop.sound? For real?.many couterparting beetween harmonies of.both guitarist....It.could be AOR but no. You need to disqualify the project as a pop...
      Poor musical diagnosis

    • @omaramador4669
      @omaramador4669 4 месяца назад

      The same happened with Emerson Lake & Powell in the same 1986 “Touch and Go” album a great disaster

    • @fenderstratocastertelecast8479
      @fenderstratocastertelecast8479 4 месяца назад +1

      @@omaramador4669 a great disaster? Oh boy... It was a different approach but.is a Great album.... Definetely people do.not get the prog in the 80s.... The following comment would be regarding RUSH "presto" or "hold.your fire", or "a momentary lapse of.reason" by PINK FLOYD
      Even the worst act of Steve Howe, Steve Hackett, Greg Lake, Keith Emerson or any master of prog, Is better than current music

    • @omaramador4669
      @omaramador4669 4 месяца назад +1

      @@fenderstratocastertelecast8479 I was talking about the 80’s music from the same decade when I was a teen. Also I didn’t like Rush and many others. I skipped many groups and started to listen Heavy Metal 🎸 and Trash Metal

  • @beauhatman4395
    @beauhatman4395 Месяц назад

    I have some advice for the next one......do the world a favor and get rid of that horribly obnoxious piano music!!! Good Lord, that stuff is AWFUL!! What are trying to do, make people ill !?!

  • @paulatB2B
    @paulatB2B 3 месяца назад

    Don't like your AI voice over. Script also rubbish.