I just dont like the chaos. Like i get distracted if anyone in my home disturbs the peace. Like i love to work and study in quietness. Like i can only focus if their is quietness.
@@placer5206 it does it just sucks when a big acheivement doesnt even get recognized until two years later (hint) and by then the corporation that got the first tip of the vuln from u, forgot your name! that part sucks but overall cybersec has unending fulfillment for those passionate about it
Me too! I passed foundations of cyber security today and I learned a lot. My niece does it for Nordstrom she didn’t do school but learned on the job, but I wanted a structured syllabus.
I love learning and self learning.... I am excited to finally start.. i'm over 40 but I can still try... going to go from truck driving to cyber in less than 2 years for sure..
@yawningdogge Is cybersecurity very hard ?? I mean I want to pursue it and I am in class 12 rn with Science (PCM) background I am decent in studies and I quiet like cyber security but can I do cybersecurity without being an engineer
🎉I am a student wishing to become a cybersecurity expert, but seeing the journal is so so much complicated and the environment I come from doesn't look good at all😢
He is very accurate on the "No one will pat you on the back!" part. If you are doing a good job, your name will not even be mentioned. If it is mentioned, chances are, you are in trouble.
Where I work at my name's only mentioned if I'm asked for something, in a meeting, or actually patted on the back (sometimes) Not entirely true with this comment. (Make 6 figures)
I think its quite difficult to find a job you love and no matter how much you like the job there's always something in the job you wont like. Its the same for all josbs, there's ups and downs. Im not certain if ill like Cyber Security but I don't know until I try. Currently doing the google cyber security professional course and really find your videos helpful.
I just started it too and I feel the same as you. It may be tough or even something that isn’t for me but it won’t be a waste of time we are taking steps in a specific direction and testing out the waters
@@snapcracklepop360 for sure man, im doing it so i have 2 possible career paths and to not limit myself to one. Im only 27 and staring off my career so its the best time to try things.
Thank you for being one of the realest in the field who creates content. I've seen some people post videos titled "Start Your Cybersecurity Career in 7 days," "Start Your $200k+ Cybersecurity Career," "Break Into Cybersecurity with 0 Experience," "Break Into Tech Without Certs of Coding Skills," etc. Although it's certainly not impossible, it's basically a bunch of click-bait titles followed by some bullshit advice on video, and it's sad to see how many people think they can get into cybersecurity with little to no effort, and how many people focus on the salary without knowing the amount of hard work it will take to get to that point. I love how you give real life examples of people's experience in the industry, both good and bad. One of my favorites is your video talking about digital forensics, and how a colleague of yours wasn't able to handle the type of stuff you get to see doing digital forensics, basically saying that it's not for everyone. That's the honest reality and you're one of the few who tells it like it is, thank you for that.
That was honestly my first impression of devops and cybersecurity, the internet will have you thinking these roles are as easy to get as working in retail or hospitality meanwhile these roles are more late-early career to mid careers in tech
This man responding to each and every single comment and giving them a like is the most wholesome thing I've seen in a long time. I'm a still teen, however I'm looking forward to working in tech/cyber security in the future. Appreciate the heads up, truly a much needed guide!
Been in cyber security for almost 7 years and everything you said on this video is spot on! Thanks for the confirmation! I started out as a SW engineer with 15 years experience so I like the mix both of them to make it fun. Great video!
Im a French speaking BDR in a F100 cybersecurity in USA for the French Canadian territory . Just started and always been passionate by this industry but came from digital marketing role. Im trying to learn and get closer by networking and working hard with my AE and SE. you’re sharing Amazing interesting information. Thank you!
You have a very interesting background Cindy! I think you’ll do really well in cyber because there is demand for people who understand the business and have good communication skills! you’ll do very well 🎉
I really appreciate the delivery and authenticity in which this video addressed, as well as the details, leadership & honesty that this video enveloped
I clicked on this video a little bit afraid as i just graduated and im interested in working in this field, but i was surprised that im actually good on all 5 things so hooray!! Reinforced my interest even more! Im doing HTB Academy and its very exciting
God, ive been taking the NGT FSNA course for over a year! (I had a car accident and had a difficult 6 month stint where i wasnt studying hardly at all and thankfully appealed for a month extension.) I really wish i had been more proactive and looked for more content like you post. I have zero regrets about the course, only that i lost my drive to learn for way too long. If i did even a little bit of extra research and found the cybersec youtubers i know about today, id probably already be working on my second cert.
Thank You for this video! I’m new the “cyber” side of security but been in the security industry for 2 years now! I’m excited because all 5 of the tips you gave I passed! But I do want the money!!!
you hit the nail on the head with everything. I remember when the movie hackers came out(I was bout 8) and I thought it was cool and as I got older and general kept my interest around computers, and even then not even completely into cyber sec, I started to see that movie was bs lol. Heck I am even witnessing people on reddit all day and night concerned about salary in this field and it is definitely not the way to go about it. Even my close friend who is a SD told me that if I want to go all in, not to worry about the money. Thanks for this video :D
oh mate you bring back memories, I still remember Hackers and the impact it had on me. My first few years on the job was definitely a sobering reality check to say the least
I transitioned into cybersecurity last year and there has been a pressure to focus on just one area. I am pleased that I can work on various things. Thank you
Very helpful indeed! I have been working in AI/ML for 7 years and now considering a change to cyber and came across your video. You gave some pretty good advice which translate to other jobs as well - particularly at the end about not being in it for the money and that one should prioritise liking what they do. The first advice about coming home and turning on the laptop to study is the harsh reality of software engineering in general and one of the biggest stress factors for me now. Everything moves so fast and need to keep up but don't really want to sacrifice my free time...
This video nailed it on the head. Thank you for this report. I've had my Security+ cert for a while. Worked on A+, Network +, and other coding certs. Then I got my Security +. Have a good career but I still want to climb the ladder. Next in Pentest + and beyond. All the points you made are valid. For me I love protecting companies from hackers and malicious actors. I like providing a ways to prevent hackers. From my past, present, and future jobs I have protected a lot of people.
well done! May I recommend you consider different certifications? perhaps something a bit more practical, check this out: ruclips.net/video/LFlsDm8w36A/видео.htmlsi=0XZWJv4eHtzTtpq-
First of all thank you for the content you making. You have mentioned Mr.Robot in that part when you talk about that real cybersecurity is far from tv shows and movies, but remember how Elliot worked in Allsafe during the day, it was exactly that routine job in office, with meetings and incident responses.
That was a good overview with enough details to pique one's curiosity about the industry. My civilian background was in network administration, and I also performed the activity while in the military for more than a decade. Having seen both sides of the fence, they both have their pros and cons, but the one thing I think the military does better is the organization, policies and procedures and certainly the hierarchy. Regarding point # 3, it does beg the question (for me) of why, if the military can be more organized (and in some ways, not as much as one would think), then what is lacking on the civilian side of things that could improve in that area? Lack of hierarchy? Lack of enforcement due to personnel shortages? No ability to specialize in the civilian side due to shortages and then having to be the "Jack of all trades?" I'm sure these components factor in. I'd like to hear what others perceive this lack of organization to be. Cheers.
It was an easier transition for me. Spent 21 years in the military as infantry (mortarman). 80% of my time was trying to justify our existence and show ignorant people how to use us to be more effective. Cybersecurity has always felt very similar to me. Shared mindset and such. Been in the field about two years at this point and just finished my graduate degree. Not kidding about the constant need to stay abreast of the changes in the field on your own time. Users also remind me of the lower enlisted. They rarely listen, will always find unexpected ways to screw things up, and its no use getting irritated about it. It's just the way things are. So, assess, adjust, resolve, and then adapt to hopefully ensure it doesn't happen again. I do enjoy the security architecture portion. Always loved defensive operations and it has the same vibe, especially when looking at network segmentation and the like. Feels like building your primary, secondary, and alternate fighting positions while coordinating indirect fires and designing obstacles to delay and attrite the enemy. Hope to be at your level at some point.
Wow this information makes me regret my education decisions! I really got into this as a means to support myself in following my passions, hopefully this works out
I'm going to enter a master's degree in cybersecurity in April, and your video helped me a lot to be sure about my decision 🩷 I'm a criminologist, and I've seen many of my friends leaving the degree because they had an idea of criminology biased by TV shows and movies. I've watched more videos of your channel and other professionals in cybersecurity before making this decision, so thank you so much for your work. I hope I can learn a lot and be a very good professional in the field. A hug from Barcelona, Spain 😊
@Gisela_CC Is cybersecurity very hard ?? I mean I want to pursue it and I am in class 12 rn with Science (PCM) background I am decent in studies and I quiet like cyber security but can I do cybersecurity without being an engineer
When you said "this is not the career if you want a pat on the back." I laughed because I like to work on my own. I used to work in a lab but I dont find the joy in there anymore. So I am searching and now I found your video. I am not used to compliments because thats just not how i was raised lol I think this is the sign for me.
you and I are similar my friend, this is probably a great career for you! here’s a playlist of important videos to watch to understand the process of career change: Start Here | Get into Cyber Security ruclips.net/p/PLdI5VHN89i7X932iFp7-M30FM9J8QHqOk
Man, that's really good content. Ty for that. I'm a software engineer and I'm considering pivot to cybersecurity, those kind of videos are really useful in these regards.
I passed my Qualys I.T specialist exam all thanks to you. I am very grateful for the videos that you put out as they motivated me to improve myself. Thanks again sir.
I passed 4 out of 5 of your barriers! And now I know that I must be even more prepared for upcoming struggleful career, especially for a 3rd world country graduate from different field.
Thank you for this! Ive been working helpdesk for a few years and trying to get out. Ive been looking for a specialty and i was curious on cyber security. This may have turned meoff on a few points 😅 but maybe. Definitely alot to think about.
don’t let this turn you off, but rather adjust your expectations! there is a lot of good in this field but I’m trying to fight back against the over glamourisation! Here’s a day in my life: ruclips.net/video/-oEd_DKeCrM/видео.html and this is my origin story: ruclips.net/video/DoTOtTY8gBI/видео.html Hope this give you a more balanced view
I agree with all that you said I'm in my last year of my cyber security program and I'm fighting ever cell in my body to not withdrawal from these class
5:59 - Yeah, back when those CSI drama series were popular, I know people who chose to do a degree in forensic science. Needless to say, they didn't even complete the degree after realising that its not as thrilling as the TV show, lol!
What kinds of things are you studying after work? Like are you back on the computer coding, solving problems that a company posts? Or is it more reading? Great video!! Thank you.
Current HS junior, lost in potential careers currently considering software engineering or cybersecurity...I honestly don't know about either - not even how to code (taking programming I in senior year). Looking into bootcamps for after graduation. How do you feel about coding bootcamps?
This is IT in general. You also have to learn and certify, then re certify. There is a push for experience. IF you are in IT such as deskside or helpdesk get into things like antivirus at work. help the security groups, also do things such as user management in AD, keep people out if they do not need to be there. Take user out of vpn's/remote access. Never ever ever allow rdp through the firewall into a network without a vpn. Read documents on hardening the firewalls or enforcing passwords. Learn the network+, and ccna to help with networks even if you do not plan on taking the cert. This guy is 100% dead on. There just isnt a school that can ever teach you everything you need to know. you are fixing forward. :)
Among everything that was listed, I'm concerned with the chaos part. I like everything in order and hate when something isn't working that's why I make plans for my plans. I might be able to learn how to adapt, but will the field allow me to adapt or would I just end up like the person who quit.
I just got top 5 reasons why I could join 😂 I've been curious about this career for awhile because I'm a digital marketer, design and animator and it's the same. Straight to work after work, endless working and learning. You don't get praised either. I'm used to high pressure and chaotic systems working in the film industry. There is some structure but most if it gets thrown out the window and played by ear. My only struggle would be being good at it 😂 Really, really good video on giving us valuable insights. Especially to someone who is curious.
this was a great video. ive been in cyber security for almost 9 years and i can say that it is not truly me. i found that i actually enjoy software development more, after writing programs for fun. but actually what you said in the end is even more true. dont work for the salary. thats the mistake i made because i lived in such an expensive place. but i ended up hating my jobs and my life. i actually was thinking about when you mentioned medical field, how i should have gone to med school to become a plastic surgeon. or even law enforcement. cyber security is just not me
fair enough! the good news is that cyber security has sooo many specialisation, and you can leverage your experience! if you love coding, have you considered Application Security? ruclips.net/video/-oGxe4CW_Z8/видео.htmlsi=hPIO4T4_NgUq9d0e or perhaps you might enjoy ‘threat management’ (coding/writing detection use-cases with Splunk or Python): ruclips.net/video/DRJic8vCodE/видео.htmlsi=pd-ICpqYaV4FnxMt
@@UnixGuy no none of it. i feel like i just like to write programs for fun, even in assembly, i wrote something similar to netcat. i feel like i like to work on something on my own and sell it. build something, maintain it a little bit and get paid by donations or other clients online. i feel like i am very creative and artistic so for me these jobs have been nothing but things i hate doing. the tasks are extremely depressing, logging in a million times, analyzing stuff i dont want to, using splunk is so depressing, i was tasked with doing that. i was tasked with doing things that i didn't know but they decided to throw things at me just because i was selected to i guess while everyone had their own little one thing they specialized in. i just got sick of it. i'd rather work on a rural farm because doing repetitive things on the computer that i don't care for is mentally destructive to me (and unhealthy staring at the screen and being inactive) but doing repetitive things physically outside is actually healthy for me and my body and makes me feel good.
Sounds like cyber is more intense than software engineers, if you have to beg for more things to learn and endless certs and the work is unorganised. Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
looks it can be but it also depends on many factors such as the company u work for, who your boss is, your teammate, but also your personality! some people find it stressful whilst others find it easy 🤷🏻♂️
This is far from the truth. The reality is Software engineering is ALOT MORE INTENSE than Cyber. Not the other way around. The learning curve and time spent on learning to become and qualify for a cyber career is nowhere near as harsh as software engineering. Cons of Software eng: 1. You need to know ALOT of programming languages to qualify for a job 2. Even if you know all the programming languages the interviews are so intense that you can easily fail. 3. Currently, the market of SWE is shrinking and harder to find a job. Cons of cyber: 1. You need a lot more interpersonal skills (might not be a con for some ppl) 2. Not as fulfilling as a SWE who create products that get used by the company to help them move forward. Not saying cyber is not fulfilling but SWE is probably more. 3. Reading logs is a big part of the job so this can get tedious.
@@christiangrey6258 yeah I can't keep up sometimes with the programming languages (but I do like learning if only there is enough time). It depends on the company really. And I think the interviews are tough... because some employers expect you to know one language very well when that can be learnt quickly... and the interview questions vary greatly between companies.
I watched this video because I've been trying to figure out what I need or want to do. I've been thinking about going to college and getting a degree in CS / Cybersecurity, and I've been so unsure exactly where to start. Furthermore, I've been told to not go to college and just do the self study route. I've been told to go to college because most of the time you need a degree to even be considered at more well established companies. I just have no idea. One thing that stood out to me was when you said if you didn't like chaotic environments then Cybersecurity probably wasn't for me, but then said that you personally love doing different things throughout the day. I do not like when things are chaotic, at least not all the time. With that said, though, I love doing different things. My biggest issue with any job I've been at is most of the time I do the exact same thing over and over again, and I just get so bored. I would for sure enjoy doing different things every day. Was that what you meant by chaotic by chance?
Question for you or anyone else with experience in the field. Currently trying to go after A+ and Security+ to secure entry into this field, as a sophomore in college (Electrical and Computer Engineering). Decided to pursue this career after seeing how long and much money it would take to finish my degree. The self-learning requirement you mentioned is essential, and I can do that, but only if I can continue to maintain a job and progress to higher titles and salaries without worrying about finishing my degree. Self-learning and pursuing additional certifications after hours is one thing, but doing all that AND worrying about taking classes on the side just seems impossible. Is it possible to become a senior in this profession, with a reliable resume (years of experience, a wealth of skills, certifications), to where you're always guaranteed a 100k+ job, but without a degree?
hey mate, yes it is 100% possible and increasingly more common, just be mindful that a lot of people don’t even bothet with higher level certifications so if you do them you really set yourself apart. Once you have few yrs of experience under your belt then getting 100k+ jobs won’t be a problem at all. I recommend you watch this video for a roadmap to follow: ruclips.net/video/ug_ruisDUXc/видео.html
Hey, an advice for you, Do not chase both, you already pursuing EE do not lose your focus on that or else you will not be good in none of them. One goal at a time. I am a Cyber major but I learned electronics on the side and now I regret that because I did not go all in in either of them. I was busy learning Wheatstone bridge and RC circuits rather than Nmap or wireshark, and now I feel incapable in both of them. If you want to be multidisciplinary, try to do one at a time. Don't worry you will always be able to change your field to cyber, especially if you are programming in your EE major. I have Comptia certs they won't teach anything to you, they are all memorizing information, they are just certs to get into field.
In my case , I was between data science , cyber security and be a nurse practitioner. And I’m deciding to work in cyber security because good pay , I love office , I like to fix and tech . Yep it’s the career I was looking 😊for
Cybersecurity is good to study but not a career for everyone. As you cannot make mistakes at your work. One can just be a bug bounty hunter for life at home. Cybersecurity analyst = IT helpdesk + security officer
You can make mistakes, they’re just a bit costly. A SOC analyst is bit more nuanced, I explained it here: What does a Cyber Security Operations Analyst do? ruclips.net/video/HohIYcNd_VM/видео.html
@UnixGuy | Cyber Security Career is still ends up you can't make any mistakes hahah I got tortured by playing squid game alike for my first and last cybersecurity job. Is like your bosses and clients everyday pointing a gun at you, you have to be perfect as a robot and competent as a manager even for a junior role. I got so stressed up that I even dreamt of my manager torturing and sending me to jail.
I have a pretty good work life balance, you can check my ‘day in the life video’ It really depends on what specialty you’re in and the company itself, some companies are super busy, others are chilled out.
Amazing video! Thanks for taking the time to explain and help us reason. I work in the Help Desk and feel cyber is a better match for me than SW Dev so hearing about your path is most helpful
Hi UnixGuy, Thanks for the great contents, I really enjoyed your video for cyber security students. I would like to ask you some questions. Could you please tell me your thoughts on a Master of Cybersecurity program at Monash? I have a bachelor's degree in business from another country and no IT experience. Should I begin with a bachelor's degree in Cyber Security rather than a master's? Another question I have is that I noticed a lot of entry level positions for cyber security require Australian citizenship for security clearance reason. Will it possible for an international student with a work visa to get a job in an industry?
Hi Jay Lee, Monash Master of Cybersecurity is an excellent program, you definitely don't need to do another bachelor, go straight to the master. Citizenship is mainly required for roles in government, you don't need to worry about that as there many roles that dont require it, but you will need a working visa or permanent resident.
@@UnixGuy Thank you for your reply :) would love to see your review for Monash's master of cyber security in the future. I watched all of your course's review and found it's very helpful.
Absolutely..Being in GRC most of my time got occupied in calls, meeting and spreadsheet though It's only 6months in to this domain. Still in the process to learn managing multitasking in GRC but loving it.
I'm 16, and I was previously interested in the medical field, and I'll be graduating with a RN assistance license, however I realized medical wasn't too difficult nor was it my thing. Whenever summer break arrived, I wanted to pick up a new skill, and I was already interested in computers, so I decided to practice cybersecurity because a friend recommended it to me. Within the last month my knowledge about how computers work has increased drastically, and I've been learning SQL, and Python; two programming languages I always wanted to learn. I'll be earning my Google cybersecurity certificate soon, and I can't wait where this journey will take me!
I am going from being a Paramedic with 33 years in service along with volunteer firefighter, reserve police officer for 20 years and medico-legal death investigator for 8 years. A nice office job sounds good to me. I am in college now for a degree in cybersecurity. The reason I chose that is that my back is about done and I need to still keep a roof over my head. Cybersecurity seems a natural fit with my background. That and I like the thoughts of being able to hunt bad guys online.
you are a perfect fit for this career and we need more people like you! you might find this video interesting given your law enforcement background: ruclips.net/video/eekzaI0UFDA/видео.html
I agree with most of your statemets, unlessss... you are part of the red team! Red Teaming is well paid, you are constantly being recognized when you do a good job, all assessments have their own flavour, you end up loving it, but... self learning is a must. 20 Years experience over here as well
I would say that it is one of the channels with the best information and quality, I admire the time you take to answer all the messages, I am 32 years old and I have been studying on my own for a year, programming fundamentals and other concepts, I went through the web, mobile, backend with Java, but nothing suits me, and suddenly I found this branch which interests me a lot and I am already with Python, it even made me want to study a technical degree at the university, if you were to compare a developer with a software analyst security, who do you think will have more action? With large-scale technological advances, I think that although many developers will be needed, I think that security analysts will be even greater, specifically in the cloud, tomorrow all the information will be there, and taking into account that information and data is the most precious and valuable thing in this world, it will be one of the best roles. There is talk of a sub-branch of developers, which already start with security in their projects, and on the other hand, AI is another barrier for security analysts, do you think it is an area for many many years? or could easily be replaced, I need your opinion to face the biggest life project that is to study and dedicate myself 100%, thank you! Network, Sec+, Linux, Coding, and a degree, good base right? It's my idea.
@UniGuy 😊 I am so glad I found you at this time, you are truely inspiring & informative my friend. I am 38 in the uk in retail for most of my working life, have always loved secuirty & tech. Tried doing open uni in lockdown but its tough working night shift. Now Ive had enough so its time to find my tribe in tech 🎉
@UnixGuy, I am actually adding an associate’s degree in Cybersecurity to an associate’s in Criminal Justice specifically to give myself training in digital forensics in order to aid investigative work. It seems to me that the two fields are complementary and will work well together. I will find what I enjoy most as I go through the program, and my school allows students to earn free vouchers for certifications, which will help me get started. Obviously, I have a little more of a plan than most students do, simply because of how I plan to use my training. I also am an online student, so self study isn’t really something new to me.
At this point in the game, goal is to make enough to pay bills, pay debt, and for me, be able to have a family and afford housing. I get what he saying but if I can make enough to finally say I have a financial safety net and emergency funding (and back ups for my back ups) then I can deal witj a job i don't like until I get more skills to get another job bc in reality, who's really caring about the fact I switched jobs at the end of it all.
@unixguy, so well said. I'm growing my team by two analysts and I'm optimistic that the people I picked slot in nicely with these criteria. But I do wish I watched this before my latest recruiting round. It would have helped if these traits were front of mind the way you presented them.
I think on #3, you could emphasize that there's a prerequisite set of steps of analysis. ITIL principles could be applied to do capture what systems were involved: set of IPs or hosts, what OSs those nodes are running, if they sit in a DMZ or not, what data is hosted there, etc. From there, you can collocate all the information for pattern recognition. At this point is where it goes from a Jr. Security Analyst who gathers all this information and a mid- to senior-security analyst will identify potential outliers. Not saying you're wrong, but I think it's something to consider for ppl who want to be in cyber but appreciate checklists and structure.
yep that can certainly happen for some mature environments and mainly at the (very basic) junior levels but that's never guaranteed specially with small to medium sized businesses the nature of analysing threats and investigating cyber attacks is that out of the box thinking is required, so is performing under pressure
I found this video to be useful in understanding what the workforce in this field may entail. Cybersecurity, as I expect of the general IT or CS field, will always be a work in progress. The college I will be attending this September is a Bachelor of IT, with either a specialization in Networking or Cybersecurity. Ultimately I think both will end up amounting to an alright position, the program seems far more focused on networking, so might go in that direction then, but I think I will find out when I progress in school.
Look for cisco based certifications and start learning right away if you want to develop a career in networking. Don't wait for teachers to spoon feed you the knowledge about it. Self learning habits should be developed from the jump otherwise you are just learning it for the sake of gaining a degree and not skill.
I’m graduating in a month (Bachelor’s degree), I was in the military for 16 yrs (2 branches ) I’m in it for the money but is a calculated move I’ll be on it for 10 years tops (I’m 40) , I used to contract overseas so I’ll be doing that 3 more times in those 10 years , I’m 40 so I’m not doing a 20 years career out of this, I know you don’t make 6 figures from the get go , it takes maybe 3-4 years to get there (hence the contracts ) then I’ll move on to something else for fun ( art degree or a language degree or maybe my masters but is doubtful)
as a person that worked in CS for last 10 years. i agree with this all. and funny enough its why i actually love CS! the chaos is my favorite part. i have worked for many companys before and after they got breached. and let me tell you. After a breach is a lot more fun than DURING or before a breach . also i love how u said cs is not like mr robot. half the time is spent on boring phishing and false positives that you are trying to tune out with engineering. The fun part is when S@#% goes down. or maybe just for me cause im a contractor so i dont have to stay over time / late without extra pay 😁
Ya, this is basically correct. I'm a full time pen tester and agree with what you are saying here. Though, there is a lot of satisfaction in getting an exploit to work and you can share your excitement with your team, as long as they are not jealous types or general assholes. Another challenge not mentioned is being able write, act and present yourself professionally. You also need a certain business acumen to communicate to customers about what your final report means to their business. The customer may say something like: "ok but what do I do about it?"
The day that I discovered what to really, really be in cybersecurity was when I was in a cyber forensics course. My assignment was to find a hidden message in a picture that was shared with us. The picture was just of Mickey Mouse. Nothing overly complicated, simple, unassuming. It took me roughly 4 hours of patient and focused search using a tool I can't remember right now, it was several years ago of that. Then I said, if I make it through this, I can make it in the industry, lol.
Very correct, Thankless, Chaotic, Mentally and Time Demanding, and Poor/ambiguous documentation. I expect all areas of security to have diverse skill with a networking base. siloed workload is a setup for personal failure.
Thanks for this video man! I have ~5 years of professional programming experience and I am looking to transition into cyber. I really want to keep coding though, and I enjoy reverse engineering... Hoping to find a role in this field that combines these skills... I took google cyber security certification just to get an understanding of the field. Next is Security+ then CEH is where I am looking... I do not want a job staring at a SIEM...
hey mate, I don’t recommend doing those certs! If you want to combine coding and cyber, follow this roadmap: ruclips.net/video/shgKU-zjOmw/видео.htmlsi=X24B7t50gPZKG2FF
I think from my perspective the last point is valid, however when you have a family and all you want to do is provide for them and have some interest in an area you will do what is best and just knowing your family is provided for will be the driver for your success within cyber security
totally agree with you! here is a breakdown of the various cyber Security specialisations for more perspective: ruclips.net/video/qx3Zu5GdiQs/видео.htmlsi=RQ23wy1q52T7_hnW
Hi I’m currently a biochemist but am looking to switch my field to cybersecurity. Your content has been really inspiring! Could you please recommend where I should start in cybersecurity? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
the five reasons are:
1.Self Learning-1:20
2.Pat on the back-2:35
3.Don"t like chaos-3:59
4.Not like mr robot-5:59
5.In it just for money-7:46
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6. Become Snowden
7. Become an asshole@@bunnicula3221
I just dont like the chaos. Like i get distracted if anyone in my home disturbs the peace. Like i love to work and study in quietness. Like i can only focus if their is quietness.
Again, no bling bling, no BS. Just high quality and informative video, straight to the point. Thank you for your work.
Thanks for your support mate, I really appreciate it 🙏🏻
@@UnixGuy and you said cybersecurity has no recognition lol (joke)
@@placer5206 it does it just sucks when a big acheivement doesnt even get recognized until two years later (hint) and by then the corporation that got the first tip of the vuln from u, forgot your name! that part sucks but overall cybersec has unending fulfillment for those passionate about it
"To be the mentor i've never had" , god bless you man!
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I just passed my Security+ today!
Congrats Tunde, so happy for you! What’s your next goal?
Really excited to see where your journey takes you :)
Most likely an AWS cert. Cloud Security!
@@midnighthymn awesome path! go smash those AWS certs, so much demand in the market!
Congrats bro! I'm a cybersecurity enthusiast currently working towards MD100 I'd like to connect with you if you don't mind
Congratulations! Wishing you much more success.
I felt in love with this path because I'm a person who's obsessed with how things works and how to fix things
then you found your calling 🎉
I do read between the lines 😎😎😎
Same. I love problems and working stuff out.
Me too! I passed foundations of cyber security today and I learned a lot. My niece does it for Nordstrom she didn’t do school but learned on the job, but I wanted a structured syllabus.
I love learning and self learning.... I am excited to finally start.. i'm over 40 but I can still try... going to go from truck driving to cyber in less than 2 years for sure..
I've been in Cyber Security for about 15 years. Everything this guy just said is 100% correct.
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@yawningdogge Is cybersecurity very hard ?? I mean I want to pursue it and I am in class 12 rn with Science (PCM) background I am decent in studies and I quiet like cyber security but can I do cybersecurity without being an engineer
@@TausifAkhtar-og7jb
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🎉I am a student wishing to become a cybersecurity expert, but seeing the journal is so so much complicated and the environment I come from doesn't look good at all😢
@@ZIBI0001bro I want tell u something
He is very accurate on the "No one will pat you on the back!" part. If you are doing a good job, your name will not even be mentioned. If it is mentioned, chances are, you are in trouble.
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Where I work at my name's only mentioned if I'm asked for something, in a meeting, or actually patted on the back (sometimes) Not entirely true with this comment.
(Make 6 figures)
One of the best videos to take a career decision. Honest, Practical, non-commercial and highly empathetic.
thank you 🙏🏻
I think its quite difficult to find a job you love and no matter how much you like the job there's always something in the job you wont like. Its the same for all josbs, there's ups and downs. Im not certain if ill like Cyber Security but I don't know until I try. Currently doing the google cyber security professional course and really find your videos helpful.
agreed, no job is perfect! good luck with the google cert
I just started it too and I feel the same as you. It may be tough or even something that isn’t for me but it won’t be a waste of time we are taking steps in a specific direction and testing out the waters
@@snapcracklepop360 💯
@@snapcracklepop360 for sure man, im doing it so i have 2 possible career paths and to not limit myself to one. Im only 27 and staring off my career so its the best time to try things.
@@Nabz1635 How are you finding the Google Cyber Security course? I was considering trying it but there's so many other options.
Thank you for being one of the realest in the field who creates content. I've seen some people post videos titled "Start Your Cybersecurity Career in 7 days," "Start Your $200k+ Cybersecurity Career," "Break Into Cybersecurity with 0 Experience," "Break Into Tech Without Certs of Coding Skills," etc. Although it's certainly not impossible, it's basically a bunch of click-bait titles followed by some bullshit advice on video, and it's sad to see how many people think they can get into cybersecurity with little to no effort, and how many people focus on the salary without knowing the amount of hard work it will take to get to that point.
I love how you give real life examples of people's experience in the industry, both good and bad. One of my favorites is your video talking about digital forensics, and how a colleague of yours wasn't able to handle the type of stuff you get to see doing digital forensics, basically saying that it's not for everyone. That's the honest reality and you're one of the few who tells it like it is, thank you for that.
Yes really honest
thanks mate, and yes I agree with you the rediculous ‘start in 7 days’ type videos, I’ trying my best to spread the word
That was honestly my first impression of devops and cybersecurity, the internet will have you thinking these roles are as easy to get as working in retail or hospitality meanwhile these roles are more late-early career to mid careers in tech
I echo with that. Thanks @UnixGuy
@@Aboguaboga can we get into cybersecurity without any certification?
This man responding to each and every single comment and giving them a like is the most wholesome thing I've seen in a long time. I'm a still teen, however I'm looking forward to working in tech/cyber security in the future. Appreciate the heads up, truly a much needed guide!
If you’re still in school then make use of free resources like these ones:
ruclips.net/video/aPKJvJIGpQM/видео.html
Enjoy the journey!
@@UnixGuy As a matter of fact yes, I am still in school! Thank you so so much, I hope I can be an expert like you one day :)
@@mahsa876 no reason why you can’t! there is so much better resources now than when i started out 🤝
@@UnixGuy I will make sure to remember this, and the fact that you were the first person to motivate me✨️
Honestly Im ok with a boring but high paying job. I already have a boring low paying job :D
haha exactly! choose your ‘boring’
Agree😂
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Mmm. But you may find high pay comes with more stress. There's a reason they have to offer so much money to get who they want.
i keep hearing cybersecurity is a boring job.
Man i was already sold on wanting to go to cybersecurity but this video is the icing on the cake!
glad to hear it 👏🏻
Been in cyber security for almost 7 years and everything you said on this video is spot on! Thanks for the confirmation! I started out as a SW engineer with 15 years experience so I like the mix both of them to make it fun. Great video!
that’s a good mix!
Thank you! You saved me of even trying moving into it - I hate chaos
fair enough :) a more organisation / less chaotic part of cyber security is ‘GRC’:
ruclips.net/video/C6IgksBpMF4/видео.htmlsi=EEBHTeKOnICkyei5
Thank you for this channel and especially for making this video, I appreciate how candid you are without any sugarcoating. Cheers
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thank you for all your videos. In one weekend I saw 90% of your videos. Helped you can´t imagine how much. Greetings from Paraguay, South America
greetings my friend 🫡
Im a French speaking BDR in a F100 cybersecurity in USA for the French Canadian territory . Just started and always been passionate by this industry but came from digital marketing role. Im trying to learn and get closer by networking and working hard with my AE and SE. you’re sharing Amazing interesting information. Thank you!
You have a very interesting background Cindy! I think you’ll do really well in cyber because there is demand for people who understand the business and have good communication skills! you’ll do very well 🎉
@@UnixGuy thanks for those kind words! Will support your Channel, love your content!
@@cinedyme6515 🫡
I'm also a digital marketing professional and now going to learn cyber security. Hope it will be a good match
I really appreciate the delivery and authenticity in which this video addressed, as well as the details, leadership & honesty that this video enveloped
thank you, I appreciate your kind comment 🤝
I clicked on this video a little bit afraid as i just graduated and im interested in working in this field, but i was surprised that im actually good on all 5 things so hooray!! Reinforced my interest even more! Im doing HTB Academy and its very exciting
Hey Lora, that’s awesome! HTB is an excellent training, well done
I appreciate your videos so much and the fact that you respond to questions in you comments section. Thank You!
my pleasure Aya, glad to have you here :)
God, ive been taking the NGT FSNA course for over a year! (I had a car accident and had a difficult 6 month stint where i wasnt studying hardly at all and thankfully appealed for a month extension.) I really wish i had been more proactive and looked for more content like you post. I have zero regrets about the course, only that i lost my drive to learn for way too long. If i did even a little bit of extra research and found the cybersec youtubers i know about today, id probably already be working on my second cert.
best time to start learning is today
Thank You for this video! I’m new the “cyber” side of security but been in the security industry for 2 years now! I’m excited because all 5 of the tips you gave I passed! But I do want the money!!!
Then it’s a great time to start learning! start here:
ruclips.net/video/6LIUhx95MCU/видео.html
you hit the nail on the head with everything. I remember when the movie hackers came out(I was bout 8) and I thought it was cool and as I got older and general kept my interest around computers, and even then not even completely into cyber sec, I started to see that movie was bs lol. Heck I am even witnessing people on reddit all day and night concerned about salary in this field and it is definitely not the way to go about it. Even my close friend who is a SD told me that if I want to go all in, not to worry about the money. Thanks for this video :D
oh mate you bring back memories, I still remember Hackers and the impact it had on me. My first few years on the job was definitely a sobering reality check to say the least
The money comes quick if you care about your skills and learn as much as you can, it’s the other things you gotta worry about :)
Really good to hear someone giving the hard advice, looking at the rad flags. Needed saying, thanks!
my pleasure!
I transitioned into cybersecurity last year and there has been a pressure to focus on just one area. I am pleased that I can work on various things. Thank you
you can also define your path!
watch this:
ruclips.net/video/rz0RL4Xue-A/видео.html
Cybersecurity is not about "Wearing a hoodie" 😂😂😂
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Necktie dealbreaker. Ill wear a cowboy bolo tie best.. I dont want to wear a tie
@@GardenStateChronic business casual is fine
Very helpful indeed! I have been working in AI/ML for 7 years and now considering a change to cyber and came across your video. You gave some pretty good advice which translate to other jobs as well - particularly at the end about not being in it for the money and that one should prioritise liking what they do. The first advice about coming home and turning on the laptop to study is the harsh reality of software engineering in general and one of the biggest stress factors for me now. Everything moves so fast and need to keep up but don't really want to sacrifice my free time...
Enjoy the journey!
This video nailed it on the head. Thank you for this report. I've had my Security+ cert for a while. Worked on A+, Network +, and other coding certs. Then I got my Security +. Have a good career but I still want to climb the ladder. Next in Pentest + and beyond. All the points you made are valid. For me I love protecting companies from hackers and malicious actors. I like providing a ways to prevent hackers.
From my past, present, and future jobs I have protected a lot of people.
well done! May I recommend you consider different certifications? perhaps something a bit more practical, check this out:
ruclips.net/video/LFlsDm8w36A/видео.htmlsi=0XZWJv4eHtzTtpq-
@@UnixGuy Thank you sir. You are greatness.
What's ur earning now. Can we earn huge amount???? Please reply
First of all thank you for the content you making. You have mentioned Mr.Robot in that part when you talk about that real cybersecurity is far from tv shows and movies, but remember how Elliot worked in Allsafe during the day, it was exactly that routine job in office, with meetings and incident responses.
that’s a different way to looking at it! thanks for sharing
Don't forget the drugs that's normal too
@@lulz0x272 I haven't seen anyone do drugs.. in fact a lot of highly secure places will do regular drug testing.
😉 Totally agree! Self motivated, self learner, and curious would be my condensed list.
solid list!
That was a good overview with enough details to pique one's curiosity about the industry.
My civilian background was in network administration, and I also performed the activity while in the military for more than a decade. Having seen both sides of the fence, they both have their pros and cons, but the one thing I think the military does better is the organization, policies and procedures and certainly the hierarchy. Regarding point # 3, it does beg the question (for me) of why, if the military can be more organized (and in some ways, not as much as one would think), then what is lacking on the civilian side of things that could improve in that area? Lack of hierarchy? Lack of enforcement due to personnel shortages? No ability to specialize in the civilian side due to shortages and then having to be the "Jack of all trades?" I'm sure these components factor in.
I'd like to hear what others perceive this lack of organization to be.
Cheers.
yep, all of the above! no hierarchy or what we refer to as ‘flat hierarchy’ , not everything have ‘an official process’
"not wearing the hoodie" was the straw on the cammels back for me.
hehe so do you like or not like hoodies?
It was an easier transition for me. Spent 21 years in the military as infantry (mortarman). 80% of my time was trying to justify our existence and show ignorant people how to use us to be more effective. Cybersecurity has always felt very similar to me. Shared mindset and such. Been in the field about two years at this point and just finished my graduate degree. Not kidding about the constant need to stay abreast of the changes in the field on your own time.
Users also remind me of the lower enlisted. They rarely listen, will always find unexpected ways to screw things up, and its no use getting irritated about it. It's just the way things are. So, assess, adjust, resolve, and then adapt to hopefully ensure it doesn't happen again.
I do enjoy the security architecture portion. Always loved defensive operations and it has the same vibe, especially when looking at network segmentation and the like. Feels like building your primary, secondary, and alternate fighting positions while coordinating indirect fires and designing obstacles to delay and attrite the enemy. Hope to be at your level at some point.
Well done on making the transition and finishing the graduate degree! It’s a huge deal 👏🏻
Probably one of the best videos I've seen. Concise and precise. 👊
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Wow this information makes me regret my education decisions! I really got into this as a means to support myself in following my passions, hopefully this works out
hey don’t be too hard on yourself, you can make a great living and have a good time too, just have a realistic view
I'm going to enter a master's degree in cybersecurity in April, and your video helped me a lot to be sure about my decision 🩷 I'm a criminologist, and I've seen many of my friends leaving the degree because they had an idea of criminology biased by TV shows and movies. I've watched more videos of your channel and other professionals in cybersecurity before making this decision, so thank you so much for your work. I hope I can learn a lot and be a very good professional in the field. A hug from Barcelona, Spain 😊
So glad that videos have helped Gisela, good luck with the masters, can’t wait to see where your journey take you! Keep me posted with your progress
@Gisela_CC Is cybersecurity very hard ?? I mean I want to pursue it and I am in class 12 rn with Science (PCM) background I am decent in studies and I quiet like cyber security but can I do cybersecurity without being an engineer
True, you have to be Up to Date. Self learning is not 4 everyone. Good video, thy!
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I dont know how I found you on youtube, but it's nice to see you bro.
hey man so good to hear from you! hope you and the guys are all well in diyar 🤝
@UnixGuy hey man, we are all good. Thanks for asking. I hope to see you again soon.
@@mohammedabuhassna8684 hopefully very soon for a conference 🤝
Thank you so much for keeping it real!!! Greatly appreciate the mentorship!!! Keep up the great work!!!
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When you said "this is not the career if you want a pat on the back." I laughed because I like to work on my own. I used to work in a lab but I dont find the joy in there anymore. So I am searching and now I found your video. I am not used to compliments because thats just not how i was raised lol I think this is the sign for me.
you and I are similar my friend, this is probably a great career for you! here’s a playlist of important videos to watch to understand the process of career change:
Start Here | Get into Cyber Security
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I work medicine and yeah it's great to directly see the fruits or your labor but I don't need it. Working on my CS degree
Sounds like I've got a good temperment for Cyber Security. Thanks for the headd up 😎☕💋
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Man, that's really good content.
Ty for that.
I'm a software engineer and I'm considering pivot to cybersecurity, those kind of videos are really useful in these regards.
having a software engineering background will help you a lot
@@UnixGuy I hope so.
Awesome advice! I subscribed to your channel.
On a side note, if you put on a hoodie you look like Rami Malek in Mr. Robot 🤘
😆 I can see why
I passed my Qualys I.T specialist exam all thanks to you. I am very grateful for the videos that you put out as they motivated me to improve myself. Thanks again sir.
well done!
continue with the rest of the plan:
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MashaAllah...you are a highly talented individual with strong passion and experience in your chosen IT field (Cybersec)
thank you 🫡
I passed 4 out of 5 of your barriers! And now I know that I must be even more prepared for upcoming struggleful career, especially for a 3rd world country graduate from different field.
good luck!
Thank you for this! Ive been working helpdesk for a few years and trying to get out. Ive been looking for a specialty and i was curious on cyber security. This may have turned meoff on a few points 😅 but maybe. Definitely alot to think about.
don’t let this turn you off, but rather adjust your expectations! there is a lot of good in this field but I’m trying to fight back against the over glamourisation!
Here’s a day in my life:
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and this is my origin story:
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Hope this give you a more balanced view
I agree with all that you said I'm in my last year of my cyber security program and I'm fighting ever cell in my body to not withdrawal from these class
dont rush, there are so many different things that you can do within cyber security:
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5:59 - Yeah, back when those CSI drama series were popular, I know people who chose to do a degree in forensic science. Needless to say, they didn't even complete the degree after realising that its not as thrilling as the TV show, lol!
hehe true! to be fair I loved CSI Miami
Thank you for making this video
I just got more encouraged to start my cybersecurity journey ☺️ I’m currently taking courses for the security+ test
good luck with it all? here is a plan I recommend you follow:
ruclips.net/video/rz0RL4Xue-A/видео.html
@@UnixGuy
I Check it out now
Thank you @UnixGuy
Thank you very for your advices. You really helped me with my learning path!
Happy to hear that!
What kinds of things are you studying after work? Like are you back on the computer coding, solving problems that a company posts? Or is it more reading? Great video!! Thank you.
certifications and training, like these:
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Current HS junior, lost in potential careers currently considering software engineering or cybersecurity...I honestly don't know about either - not even how to code (taking programming I in senior year). Looking into bootcamps for after graduation. How do you feel about coding bootcamps?
Do NOT do bootcamps! watch this to help you decide:
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WOW! That was so quick! Thanks for replying. I'll definitely going to watch.
This is IT in general. You also have to learn and certify, then re certify. There is a push for experience. IF you are in IT such as deskside or helpdesk get into things like antivirus at work. help the security groups, also do things such as user management in AD, keep people out if they do not need to be there. Take user out of vpn's/remote access. Never ever ever allow rdp through the firewall into a network without a vpn. Read documents on hardening the firewalls or enforcing passwords. Learn the network+, and ccna to help with networks even if you do not plan on taking the cert. This guy is 100% dead on. There just isnt a school that can ever teach you everything you need to know. you are fixing forward. :)
thanks for sharing your experience 🙏🏻
Among everything that was listed, I'm concerned with the chaos part. I like everything in order and hate when something isn't working that's why I make plans for my plans. I might be able to learn how to adapt, but will the field allow me to adapt or would I just end up like the person who quit.
You’ll find if you work at bigger organisations things can be more ‘organised’ and silod to a point
I just got top 5 reasons why I could join 😂
I've been curious about this career for awhile because I'm a digital marketer, design and animator and it's the same. Straight to work after work, endless working and learning. You don't get praised either. I'm used to high pressure and chaotic systems working in the film industry. There is some structure but most if it gets thrown out the window and played by ear.
My only struggle would be being good at it 😂
Really, really good video on giving us valuable insights. Especially to someone who is curious.
Looks like you found your calling! Start here:
ruclips.net/video/6LIUhx95MCU/видео.html
this was a great video. ive been in cyber security for almost 9 years and i can say that it is not truly me. i found that i actually enjoy software development more, after writing programs for fun. but actually what you said in the end is even more true. dont work for the salary. thats the mistake i made because i lived in such an expensive place. but i ended up hating my jobs and my life. i actually was thinking about when you mentioned medical field, how i should have gone to med school to become a plastic surgeon. or even law enforcement. cyber security is just not me
fair enough! the good news is that cyber security has sooo many specialisation, and you can leverage your experience!
if you love coding, have you considered Application Security?
ruclips.net/video/-oGxe4CW_Z8/видео.htmlsi=hPIO4T4_NgUq9d0e
or perhaps you might enjoy ‘threat management’ (coding/writing detection use-cases with Splunk or Python):
ruclips.net/video/DRJic8vCodE/видео.htmlsi=pd-ICpqYaV4FnxMt
@@UnixGuy no none of it. i feel like i just like to write programs for fun, even in assembly, i wrote something similar to netcat. i feel like i like to work on something on my own and sell it. build something, maintain it a little bit and get paid by donations or other clients online. i feel like i am very creative and artistic so for me these jobs have been nothing but things i hate doing. the tasks are extremely depressing, logging in a million times, analyzing stuff i dont want to, using splunk is so depressing, i was tasked with doing that. i was tasked with doing things that i didn't know but they decided to throw things at me just because i was selected to i guess while everyone had their own little one thing they specialized in. i just got sick of it.
i'd rather work on a rural farm because doing repetitive things on the computer that i don't care for is mentally destructive to me (and unhealthy staring at the screen and being inactive) but doing repetitive things physically outside is actually healthy for me and my body and makes me feel good.
Sounds like cyber is more intense than software engineers, if you have to beg for more things to learn and endless certs and the work is unorganised. Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
looks it can be but it also depends on many factors such as the company u work for, who your boss is, your teammate, but also your personality! some people find it stressful whilst others find it easy 🤷🏻♂️
This is far from the truth. The reality is Software engineering is ALOT MORE INTENSE than Cyber. Not the other way around. The learning curve and time spent on learning to become and qualify for a cyber career is nowhere near as harsh as software engineering.
Cons of Software eng:
1. You need to know ALOT of programming languages to qualify for a job
2. Even if you know all the programming languages the interviews are so intense that you can easily fail.
3. Currently, the market of SWE is shrinking and harder to find a job.
Cons of cyber:
1. You need a lot more interpersonal skills (might not be a con for some ppl)
2. Not as fulfilling as a SWE who create products that get used by the company to help them move forward. Not saying cyber is not fulfilling but SWE is probably more.
3. Reading logs is a big part of the job so this can get tedious.
@@christiangrey6258 yeah I can't keep up sometimes with the programming languages (but I do like learning if only there is enough time). It depends on the company really. And I think the interviews are tough... because some employers expect you to know one language very well when that can be learnt quickly... and the interview questions vary greatly between companies.
What a great channel, thanks for all you do
thanks for your kind words
I watched this video because I've been trying to figure out what I need or want to do. I've been thinking about going to college and getting a degree in CS / Cybersecurity, and I've been so unsure exactly where to start. Furthermore, I've been told to not go to college and just do the self study route. I've been told to go to college because most of the time you need a degree to even be considered at more well established companies. I just have no idea. One thing that stood out to me was when you said if you didn't like chaotic environments then Cybersecurity probably wasn't for me, but then said that you personally love doing different things throughout the day. I do not like when things are chaotic, at least not all the time. With that said, though, I love doing different things. My biggest issue with any job I've been at is most of the time I do the exact same thing over and over again, and I just get so bored. I would for sure enjoy doing different things every day. Was that what you meant by chaotic by chance?
honestly it’s not so black or white, it will vary by environment and specialsiation. Watch this:
ruclips.net/video/zFFMhpCLJi0/видео.html
Question for you or anyone else with experience in the field. Currently trying to go after A+ and Security+ to secure entry into this field, as a sophomore in college (Electrical and Computer Engineering). Decided to pursue this career after seeing how long and much money it would take to finish my degree. The self-learning requirement you mentioned is essential, and I can do that, but only if I can continue to maintain a job and progress to higher titles and salaries without worrying about finishing my degree. Self-learning and pursuing additional certifications after hours is one thing, but doing all that AND worrying about taking classes on the side just seems impossible. Is it possible to become a senior in this profession, with a reliable resume (years of experience, a wealth of skills, certifications), to where you're always guaranteed a 100k+ job, but without a degree?
hey mate,
yes it is 100% possible and increasingly more common, just be mindful that a lot of people don’t even bothet with higher level certifications so if you do them you really set yourself apart. Once you have few yrs of experience under your belt then getting 100k+ jobs won’t be a problem at all.
I recommend you watch this video for a roadmap to follow: ruclips.net/video/ug_ruisDUXc/видео.html
@@UnixGuy Thanks so much for responding, your videos are gold!
@@Retributivist no worries at all, good luck man
Hey, an advice for you, Do not chase both, you already pursuing EE do not lose your focus on that or else you will not be good in none of them. One goal at a time. I am a Cyber major but I learned electronics on the side and now I regret that because I did not go all in in either of them. I was busy learning Wheatstone bridge and RC circuits rather than Nmap or wireshark, and now I feel incapable in both of them. If you want to be multidisciplinary, try to do one at a time. Don't worry you will always be able to change your field to cyber, especially if you are programming in your EE major. I have Comptia certs they won't teach anything to you, they are all memorizing information, they are just certs to get into field.
@@apollomedia7210 wise words my friend, I agree 👏🏻
In my case , I was between data science , cyber security and be a nurse practitioner. And I’m deciding to work in cyber security because good pay , I love office , I like to fix and tech . Yep it’s the career I was looking 😊for
@@Viicka2 glad to hear you found what you enjoy :)
Cybersecurity is good to study but not a career for everyone. As you cannot make mistakes at your work. One can just be a bug bounty hunter for life at home.
Cybersecurity analyst = IT helpdesk + security officer
You can make mistakes, they’re just a bit costly. A SOC analyst is bit more nuanced, I explained it here: What does a Cyber Security Operations Analyst do?
ruclips.net/video/HohIYcNd_VM/видео.html
@UnixGuy | Cyber Security Career is still ends up you can't make any mistakes hahah
I got tortured by playing squid game alike for my first and last cybersecurity job. Is like your bosses and clients everyday pointing a gun at you, you have to be perfect as a robot and competent as a manager even for a junior role.
I got so stressed up that I even dreamt of my manager torturing and sending me to jail.
@@KahKiatTan looks like you had terrible bosses and toxic environments, can guarantee you it’s not always like that
@@UnixGuy I will just stick with data centre operator and gov desktop support jobs for life.
@@KahKiatTan that’s fair if that’s your preference why not :)
What’s the free time like in cybersecurity? How many days a week do you work and how many hours a day? Do you have time to dedicate to hobbies?
I have a pretty good work life balance, you can check my ‘day in the life video’ It really depends on what specialty you’re in and the company itself, some companies are super busy, others are chilled out.
Amazing video! Thanks for taking the time to explain and help us reason. I work in the Help Desk and feel cyber is a better match for me than SW Dev so hearing about
your path is most helpful
Good luck my mate, glad you found something you reasonate with!
You can follow this roadmap to start with:
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I am in cybersecurity.. ~ 10 years and all said in this video is true !!!
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Hi UnixGuy, Thanks for the great contents, I really enjoyed your video for cyber security students.
I would like to ask you some questions. Could you please tell me your thoughts on a Master of Cybersecurity program at Monash? I have a bachelor's degree in business from another country and no IT experience. Should I begin with a bachelor's degree in Cyber Security rather than a master's?
Another question I have is that I noticed a lot of entry level positions for cyber security require Australian citizenship for security clearance reason. Will it possible for an international student with a work visa to get a job in an industry?
Hi Jay Lee,
Monash Master of Cybersecurity is an excellent program, you definitely don't need to do another bachelor, go straight to the master.
Citizenship is mainly required for roles in government, you don't need to worry about that as there many roles that dont require it, but you will need a working visa or permanent resident.
@@UnixGuy Thank you for your reply :) would love to see your review for Monash's master of cyber security in the future. I watched all of your course's review and found it's very helpful.
@@jaylee-un6wx thanks mate, go for the course its good
@@UnixGuy Thank you :) I will keep you updated. Do you think that I should start to learn to programming before enroll for the course?
@@jaylee-un6wx Check the subject description indivirually, they should explain whats needed
Im used to being bullied at work lol the trades love to mess with each other. I love that this career is constantly growing and isn’t stale.
100% agree, people who say cyber security is hard havent actually done anything stressful in their life
Absolutely..Being in GRC most of my time got occupied in calls, meeting and spreadsheet though It's only 6months in to this domain. Still in the process to learn managing multitasking in GRC but loving it.
Looks like you are on track to do grear things! GRC is a fantastic space to be in :)
@@UnixGuy Thank you sir.
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I'm 16, and I was previously interested in the medical field, and I'll be graduating with a RN assistance license, however I realized medical wasn't too difficult nor was it my thing. Whenever summer break arrived, I wanted to pick up a new skill, and I was already interested in computers, so I decided to practice cybersecurity because a friend recommended it to me. Within the last month my knowledge about how computers work has increased drastically, and I've been learning SQL, and Python; two programming languages I always wanted to learn. I'll be earning my Google cybersecurity certificate soon, and I can't wait where this journey will take me!
That’s awesome, well done. Make sure to follow this roadmap:
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I am going from being a Paramedic with 33 years in service along with volunteer firefighter, reserve police officer for 20 years and medico-legal death investigator for 8 years. A nice office job sounds good to me. I am in college now for a degree in cybersecurity. The reason I chose that is that my back is about done and I need to still keep a roof over my head. Cybersecurity seems a natural fit with my background. That and I like the thoughts of being able to hunt bad guys online.
you are a perfect fit for this career and we need more people like you! you might find this video interesting given your law enforcement background:
ruclips.net/video/eekzaI0UFDA/видео.html
I agree with most of your statemets, unlessss... you are part of the red team! Red Teaming is well paid, you are constantly being recognized when you do a good job, all assessments have their own flavour, you end up loving it, but... self learning is a must. 20 Years experience over here as well
Yeah I was being as general as possible. Looks like you are in a great environment and are well compensated, glad to hear that :)
@@UnixGuy thanks man. IMO I think the work env plays a big role as well.
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I would say that it is one of the channels with the best information and quality, I admire the time you take to answer all the messages, I am 32 years old and I have been studying on my own for a year, programming fundamentals and other concepts, I went through the web, mobile, backend with Java, but nothing suits me, and suddenly I found this branch which interests me a lot and I am already with Python, it even made me want to study a technical degree at the university, if you were to compare a developer with a software analyst security, who do you think will have more action? With large-scale technological advances, I think that although many developers will be needed, I think that security analysts will be even greater, specifically in the cloud, tomorrow all the information will be there, and taking into account that information and data is the most precious and valuable thing in this world, it will be one of the best roles.
There is talk of a sub-branch of developers, which already start with security in their projects, and on the other hand, AI is another barrier for security analysts, do you think it is an area for many many years? or could easily be replaced, I need your opinion to face the biggest life project that is to study and dedicate myself 100%, thank you!
Network, Sec+, Linux, Coding, and a degree, good base right? It's my idea.
thanks! follow this roadmap:
ruclips.net/video/DRJic8vCodE/видео.html
@UniGuy 😊 I am so glad I found you at this time, you are truely inspiring & informative my friend.
I am 38 in the uk in retail for most of my working life, have always loved secuirty & tech.
Tried doing open uni in lockdown but its tough working night shift.
Now Ive had enough so its time to find my tribe in tech 🎉
make it happen mate, your retail experience means you have good customer service skills, that’s very valuable!
@UnixGuy, I am actually adding an associate’s degree in Cybersecurity to an associate’s in Criminal Justice specifically to give myself training in digital forensics in order to aid investigative work. It seems to me that the two fields are complementary and will work well together. I will find what I enjoy most as I go through the program, and my school allows students to earn free vouchers for certifications, which will help me get started. Obviously, I have a little more of a plan than most students do, simply because of how I plan to use my training. I also am an online student, so self study isn’t really something new to me.
If you want to work in forensics, I recommend you follow this:
ruclips.net/video/eekzaI0UFDA/видео.html
In other words, "it ain't cookies and creams"
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Really makes me rethink about what path I want to create for my future. Loved the video nonetheless! Thanks!
I recommend watching this video for better insights into the world of cyber security:
ruclips.net/video/qx3Zu5GdiQs/видео.html
At this point in the game, goal is to make enough to pay bills, pay debt, and for me, be able to have a family and afford housing. I get what he saying but if I can make enough to finally say I have a financial safety net and emergency funding (and back ups for my back ups) then I can deal witj a job i don't like until I get more skills to get another job bc in reality, who's really caring about the fact I switched jobs at the end of it all.
you seem to be very self-aware and smart, you will do very well in any career you choose!
@@UnixGuy i appreciate that sir
@unixguy, so well said.
I'm growing my team by two analysts and I'm optimistic that the people I picked slot in nicely with these criteria.
But I do wish I watched this before my latest recruiting round. It would have helped if these traits were front of mind the way you presented them.
it’s always challenging to get the right people - good luck!
I think on #3, you could emphasize that there's a prerequisite set of steps of analysis. ITIL principles could be applied to do capture what systems were involved: set of IPs or hosts, what OSs those nodes are running, if they sit in a DMZ or not, what data is hosted there, etc.
From there, you can collocate all the information for pattern recognition. At this point is where it goes from a Jr. Security Analyst who gathers all this information and a mid- to senior-security analyst will identify potential outliers.
Not saying you're wrong, but I think it's something to consider for ppl who want to be in cyber but appreciate checklists and structure.
yep that can certainly happen for some mature environments and mainly at the (very basic) junior levels but that's never guaranteed specially with small to medium sized businesses
the nature of analysing threats and investigating cyber attacks is that out of the box thinking is required, so is performing under pressure
I found this video to be useful in understanding what the workforce in this field may entail. Cybersecurity, as I expect of the general IT or CS field, will always be a work in progress. The college I will be attending this September is a Bachelor of IT, with either a specialization in Networking or Cybersecurity. Ultimately I think both will end up amounting to an alright position, the program seems far more focused on networking, so might go in that direction then, but I think I will find out when I progress in school.
Good luck with it all!
Look for cisco based certifications and start learning right away if you want to develop a career in networking. Don't wait for teachers to spoon feed you the knowledge about it. Self learning habits should be developed from the jump otherwise you are just learning it for the sake of gaining a degree and not skill.
@@samratneupane8429 Thanks, will look into that.
I’m graduating in a month (Bachelor’s degree), I was in the military for 16 yrs (2 branches ) I’m in it for the money but is a calculated move I’ll be on it for 10 years tops (I’m 40) , I used to contract overseas so I’ll be doing that 3 more times in those 10 years , I’m 40 so I’m not doing a 20 years career out of this, I know you don’t make 6 figures from the get go , it takes maybe 3-4 years to get there (hence the contracts ) then I’ll move on to something else for fun ( art degree or a language degree or maybe my masters but is doubtful)
best of luck 🤝
as a person that worked in CS for last 10 years. i agree with this all. and funny enough its why i actually love CS! the chaos is my favorite part. i have worked for many companys before and after they got breached. and let me tell you. After a breach is a lot more fun than DURING or before a breach . also i love how u said cs is not like mr robot. half the time is spent on boring phishing and false positives that you are trying to tune out with engineering. The fun part is when S@#% goes down. or maybe just for me cause im a contractor so i dont have to stay over time / late without extra pay 😁
looks it’s the perfect job for you :)
I'm pursuing my sec+ since i am inspired by your content.
best of luck! watch this playlist:
ruclips.net/p/PLdI5VHN89i7X932iFp7-M30FM9J8QHqOk&si=yd2aOj2xwBtTBmP-
Ya, this is basically correct. I'm a full time pen tester and agree with what you are saying here. Though, there is a lot of satisfaction in getting an exploit to work and you can share your excitement with your team, as long as they are not jealous types or general assholes. Another challenge not mentioned is being able write, act and present yourself professionally. You also need a certain business acumen to communicate to customers about what your final report means to their business. The customer may say something like: "ok but what do I do about it?"
yep professional communication skills are essential specially as you get more senior
Coming from real estate and getting inside of this, a bit scary but I'm willing to learn new things.
Start here:
ruclips.net/video/rz0RL4Xue-A/видео.html
the special thing about you that you give us a realistic experience so be always like that
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The day that I discovered what to really, really be in cybersecurity was when I was in a cyber forensics course. My assignment was to find a hidden message in a picture that was shared with us. The picture was just of Mickey Mouse. Nothing overly complicated, simple, unassuming. It took me roughly 4 hours of patient and focused search using a tool I can't remember right now, it was several years ago of that. Then I said, if I make it through this, I can make it in the industry, lol.
sounds fun! make sure to watch this video:
ruclips.net/video/eekzaI0UFDA/видео.html
Very correct, Thankless, Chaotic, Mentally and Time Demanding, and Poor/ambiguous documentation. I expect all areas of security to have diverse skill with a networking base. siloed workload is a setup for personal failure.
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Yea, Kevin Mitnick is legend .. remind on how we try to operate Beige Box ..
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I was thinking of making a mid-career switch to cybersecurity but this video has just convinced me not to. Thanks for the content!
I wouldn’t let this deter you! watch this for more details:
ruclips.net/video/qx3Zu5GdiQs/видео.htmlsi=TVijjuyBhJpCAqYZ
Thanks for this video man! I have ~5 years of professional programming experience and I am looking to transition into cyber. I really want to keep coding though, and I enjoy reverse engineering... Hoping to find a role in this field that combines these skills... I took google cyber security certification just to get an understanding of the field. Next is Security+ then CEH is where I am looking... I do not want a job staring at a SIEM...
hey mate, I don’t recommend doing those certs! If you want to combine coding and cyber, follow this roadmap:
ruclips.net/video/shgKU-zjOmw/видео.htmlsi=X24B7t50gPZKG2FF
Really useful info , just looking into getting started and looking forward to it 👍
Best of luck!
Everything you spoke of in this video makes me want to pursue this even more
then this might be your calling!
Thanks for the video!
You're welcome!
Very helpful and honest information, thanks alot!
My pleasure!
Thanks for the insight, it was very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
I think from my perspective the last point is valid, however when you have a family and all you want to do is provide for them and have some interest in an area you will do what is best and just knowing your family is provided for will be the driver for your success within cyber security
totally agree with you! here is a breakdown of the various cyber Security specialisations for more perspective:
ruclips.net/video/qx3Zu5GdiQs/видео.htmlsi=RQ23wy1q52T7_hnW
Hi
I’m currently a biochemist but am looking to switch my field to cybersecurity. Your content has been really inspiring! Could you please recommend where I should start in cybersecurity? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Follow this plan:
ruclips.net/video/rz0RL4Xue-A/видео.html