From mmo-champ: “Nordrassil (the World Tree) is the clear winner here, as it should be. The upper leaves reach a point of 2,713.4 game yards above sea level, and the highest part you can actually stand on, is still higher than any other location, at 2,450.7 GY As for the rest - a combination of tall points, and guesses from this thread: The tips of the spires of ICC, Icecrown (2,153.9) Temple of Storms, Storm Peaks (1,990.4) Unnamed Hyjal peak {67.67, 37.60} (1,970.6) Unnamed Hyjal peak {53.50, 39.60} (1,889.4) Temple of Storms, Storm Peaks (natural geography) (1,880.5) Ulduar’s roof, Storm Peaks (1870.7) Temple of Order, Storm Peaks (1832) Terrace of the Makers, Storm Peaks (natural geography) (1665.3) Highmountain Peak, Highmountain (1577.9) ICC, Icecrown (Lich King Platform) (1544.1) Violet Citadel tip, Dalaran (Broken Isles) (1279.3) Neverest Pinnacle, Kun Lai Summit (1229.5) Violet Citadel tip, Dalaran (Northrend) (1191.9) Shala’drassil, Val’sharah (1179.1) Veiled Stair peak, Pandaria (1137) Reflection Peak, Highmountain (1125.2) unnamed Kun-Lai peak {54.01,54.08} (1000) Kota Peak, Kun-Lai Summit (920.921) Unnamed Dun Morogh peak {64.11,26.13} (896.3) Heart of Fear (891.2) Twilight Citadel (879.7) Blackrock Mountain (858.5) … ??. Wyrmrest Temple (441.7)”
Oh god, especially when you have people that don't understand how to see what group you're in, or what it means to go under or stay. Oh, don't forget people that forget to keep an eye on their insanity!
I really like these videos about difficult bosses. Even though I will probably never fight them, these videos make me feel like I'm a part of the playerbase who fought them.
I saw part with Kil'jaden, picking aura of Mercy and Holy Prism, and felt better instantly, because many people flamed me for picking them on KJ, while upgraded Aura of Mercy countered darkness dot... Thank you hiru, for brightening my day!
uunat's main difficulty was the last phase no healing anymore mechanic alongside all the other things. But really the hardest part on it was the damage from the ppl who could not be healed
Looking at KJ, he was literally impossible to kill in its first iteration. Similarly, Jaina was overtuned and nerfed during the world first progression. Blackhand on the other hand was just really difficult, but didn't require nerfing to overcome
Maybe adjust the title and also since we already heared Most of these bosses nerfs /bugs /first kill / mechanics maybe cutting them out would be better
Peddling the modern players are better nonsense makes this a pile of $%&&. Also pretending that 1.12 classic servers represent the real difficulty of the vanilla raids.
I dunno. The my LFR against N’Zoth the other night is probably a contender for first place. Good job Blizzard for the real life insanity mechanics. _Just fucking use the big button on your scree-of course you got MC’d again..._
@@DiablitoKawaii sounds like Mandokir. I'm thinking he gets 5 stacks on a tank and fixates a healer or dps. When he gets to them, they are rooted and given 5 stacks. Darius takes 5 seconds to cast Guillotine. In that time, the targeted player has to use a nearby, dead add's body to hit Darius midair and stop the Ult. Otherwise he respeats with another target and gains a damage boost stack
Babko Rudyomega a raider of method was exposed for being a pedophile and method knew about it way before but didnt do anything until it became mainstream news
I remember a blizzcon during WotLK where topguilds had a raid comp, racing eachother to clear the raid the fastest. It was during ToC and when they were done and killed anub'arak blizz spawned hogger as a boss. The hogger just dashed through the raid with nonstop warrior charges and oneshotted everyone. Truely an unbeatable boss.
@@cornflakeshumunculus8373 in vanilla yes because players used to suck really bad but in classic i killed him solo with a warrior without any gear from AH or health pots
Mythic Uu'nat was nice. Showed real skill from guilds on Mythic. We killed it 2 times before essences were introduced... Then guilds that shouldn't have gotten CE got it with them. Big cheaters.
The avg player isn't as good today is a relative statement lol. Auto pilot mods don't make a better pilot. Just more homogenized. I played classic recently. People play worse. Full world buffs with UBRS buff, with full tier 2, 40 people's, wiping on Rag weekly. It's common lol. Players plan raids with all the class n precision of a gal shopping Amazon catalogs. But don't know the encounters.... Still. After 16 yrs. Standing in fire....
Line of sight mechanics are awesome. Man, I worry about you sometimes because you complain about things that literally add more excitement to the game.
You say something in the video that I've actually wondered before. Comparing the world first to the world second. What fights have the longest time/kills from first to second? Or which fights have the shortest.
A few ideas for future videos: Top 10 raid bosses never featured in a countdown video. Top 10 raid bosses that seem really cool and deserve a little extra backstory. Top 10 most hated bosses in dungeons/raids
I don't know, if hirumaredx even research for his videos? Since place 4, he just talked nonsense about bosses and how the nerfes went. Ragnaros frost patches got "removed" far later on and not after killing it for the first time. At kil jaeden he says that entire raids had to switch to goblins, but only priests needed to because they hadn't any possibility to counter one knockback ability in the shadow phase. Every other class was able to do it. At Jaina, people switched to troll to exploit the ability, because you were able to lose the frost debuff ability with the troll racial which shouldn't happen.
There is also the fact that KJ's pull count was not only because of overtuning and bugs, it was a relatively bug-free encounter for the most part, also the overtuning was true but only for a very short period of time it was nerfed within days of Method reaching it to where it largely remained for a long time. The main difficulty was the extreme punishment from messing up mechanics even slightly (if you missed soaking a single meteor it was a wipe and there were a lot of meteors at a time, the darkness phase ended up being undertuned once the DK strat was discovered and the final phase was largely undertuned as well but it was also largely BS because the insane amount of pillars meant you needed to even reach the final phase only to be blindsided by a mechanic being turned up to 11 that was largely trivial in the original version, once you're safe spot marker figured out the last phase it was basically guaranteed to die the next time you saw the phase.
Makes me wonder how much we wiped on Sunwell bosses. You are right, it never occurred to anybody back then to keep track. I do recall several all-nighters against Mu'ru though. Half of that boss fight was dealing with guild turnover. We used to rotate drums of battle through a stacked melee group. I had the honor of being Ret in that group (depending on the fight, but mostly Brutalus) back in a time when the spec was barely justifiable in a raid at all. Let alone contributing to ~top 25 kills. Fun times. But seeing this laid out, with newer bosses I never heard of. I'll say it feels like I had it easy.
Hello, had a idea for a new top 10. miscellaneous quests that give a fun reward... like the quest where you defend the farmers land from the undead for the singing sunflower pet. There is a mini game or something that you have to play to complete the quest so I feel it was rather unique
Yogg 0 Light is still my all time favourite Raid Boss. Incredible Hard (even after the nerf) and so satisfying to pull off. Then again nearly every Boss in Ulduar was exceptionally well designed even if some of the Hardmodes where overtuned as shit at the start like Mimiron or Hodir :D And my god Tomb of Sageras still gives me PTSD.. fuck Avatar and especially fuck Kil´Jaeden.
Just pointing out that the later raids in WOTLK actually had the number of attempts capped per week. So a high wipecount was actually not possible on those bosses. I like the metric for comparing all raids since Cata though :)
Jaina was such a trash fight. That fight, if it wasnt broken as f*ck, would have taken 100 pulls, tops. First off, she queued her spells, which meant the timings would sometimes be off by a good 10-15 seconds between attempts, completely throwing the entire attempt off. Second, in p2, she did a blizzard overlapping with an ice fall, and if you got bad RNG with the ice fall, which was maybe 2-3 attempts per night, it was just a wipe. Finally, the intermission phase and phase 3 were completely broken and did not function properly. Continuing to gain stacks during the intermission, combined with the absurd health on the elemental, meant that it was just not mathematically feasible to do p3 and the intermission "properly" without people getting iceblocked, and the iceblocks in mythic were basically unkillable with how much HP they had, so killing iceblocks was not an option. So all the pre-nerf kills of jaina just kept the elemental alive, and burned jaina down in p3, ignoring basically the entire intermission because it did not function properly. basically, jaina sucked ass and should only be on this list as a technicality, since it was one of the most mechanically broken fights they had done in a while, and not exactly "hard".
I would like to know the wipe count for the heroic Ragnaros world 2nd kill. It took a super long time to get another guild than Paragon to kill the boss. Paragon was back then in a league of their own.
I know this is not the point but I came here to compare wipe counts on ffxiv vs. wow, after the latest raid had an approximate wipe count of 738, on a 21 minute fight. Really puts into perspective how hard that raid was
Queen Azshara was awesome as a fight. And line of sight mechanics aren't that bad. They require attention...just like many other mechanics. Putting it as one of the worst fights ever is pretty lame
I'm confused. In the #1 hardest boss he says that it's the only one from BFA but #9 and #8 are also from BFA. Was that a misread on his part or am I missing something else he said?
Uu’nat was a joke it was literally just a mini raid that was purposely too difficult to create massive hype about the top guilds completing it for world first no casual players played that fuckin garbage.
classic bosses werent hard, they were bugged, because if you kill a boss with moving slightly to side and spamming one key, is considered hard, i dont know how nostalgic these stupid people who cant even do mechanics right in a normal raid are
Vanilla guilds not using flasks and minor buffs to max out? Total nonsense. We would grind all week and max out profs if it gave even +5 anything. Love these videos but he is talking out his bottom on this.
You do know he's obviously not talking about all of the guilds, right? Of course, some guilds min-maxed, but it's common in the WoW community to know that min-maxing wasn't a big thing in the original version of the game thus only a small % of players did it compared to today.
The only thing this video tells me is that for some god forsaken reason Blizzard doesn't even play their own game. Why else would there be so many bosses that are over tuned to the point where its almost impossible to even win?
Jaina was a horrible fight from a design standpoint on mythic. Her spell queuing caused so much RNG that you could be 200+ pulls in and still get different combinations of attacks.
Yeah, it really was. She did some spellqueuing in hc as well but mythic just threw that out of the water. Nothing like doing a pull where she somewhat follows the ability order she should and then next pull she casts nothing but her tank ability for like a minute straight before throwing you into the hell of Blizzard, Avalanche, whatever the frontal cone was called and then bombardment for good measure in the span of five seconds. Not only that but some of the other mechanics were random as well, making the fight pure RNG fest and you could lose a perfect pull to shit RNG you could do nothing about. Undetectable Icefalls through your raid because of Blizzard were a good design, right? :')
Eh more like a skewed version of it since Uunat definitely wouldn't be #1, Fallen Avatar wouldn't be on the list at all, nor would Garrosh/Azshara, and arguably Archimonde because the vast majority of guilds found Archimonde/Garrosh to be very easy once the resources were released. Azshara/Fallen were just RNG paired with insane gear requirements and Uunat's wipe count is massively inflated.
Min/maxing is the curse of modern gaming. Choosing a profession just for a moderately easier raid experience? This is not RPG anymore, might as well go play Excel tables. I mean if a player enjoys min/maxing it's totally fine. But when such players start to define game experience for every single other player they come in contact with, then there's a problem.
With regards to Uu'nat, Unstable Resonance wasn't the main reason why it required so many wipes to kill. The fight was a mess of timings, and you had many pulls which were RNG wipes because of bad overlaps. For example for a significant part of progression he could drop pools mid resonance, meaning you had the choice between a third of the raid dying - which is a wipe - or healing the boss - which is a wipe. It was also bugged to hell and back for the first couple of days, the adds permanently healed after they had started healing once, making the fight once again more or less impossible + many other things. All in all it was just a stupidly hard fight.
BfA may suck but the raids where pretty good (in fact the only thing that keep me playing the game), in particular BoD was my favourite. Also the addition of "encounter music" is a thing that i'll always remember from this exp. Still the removing of Tier sets is a BIG con tho.
H 25M LK probably has a wipe count closer to 300. Remember the limited attempts per week and the fact that top guilds were running at least two teams a week - their mains and a replica of alts to figure out mechanics/come up with strats before their mains were brought in. Top guilds during this time period talk about the frustration of the limited attempts as it increased the work-load for them due to an arbitrary number of attempts per week. Plus, it seemed like a moot point as H LK was buggy and over-tuned, so dealing with that alone would make the 50 attempts per week even more hair-pulling.
The other aspect of Uunat is that the fight was just incredibly tightly tuned because mythic raiders complained about Battle for Dazar'alor being undertuned except for Jaina. Since it was basically a 'bonus' instance for people who had finished BfD already, Blizzard just jacked the numbers up to the absolute edge of human possibility, crossed their arms and said 'beat it'. And they did, eventually. Contrast with ToS Kil'jaeden, where they got it to the point where the in-house raid team could just barely beat it and then jacked the numbers and mechanics up by another 25% to compensate for how much better the world first-level players were, except it turned out the in-house raiders weren't as bad as they thought they were.
If we take Ragnaros as an example .. 15min averge time to kill x 500 tries = 7500 min = 125 hours = 5 days and half IRL just to kill raid boss .. I rather play arena or BG
i prefer having last boss over tune, players can farm other bosses for better gears and attempt it again. Even if they cannot kill the boss there might be progression like get the boss to 30%, 25%, 20% every week. Last boss should be powerful, maybe player has to wait for later raids gear to boost their power to kill the boss. if you know that you still have a boss to beat, it will at least give you a reason to keep playing to improve your gear.
You forgot to mention that Uunat had a mechanic where it was benefitial to have someone die and get rezzed outside of the room to trigger one of the artifact which lead to most guilds abusing the shamans ankh mechanic to deal with it. This lead to the infamous cataclysm dungeon reset which gave shamans the ability to reset the 30min xD on ankh for every boss pull. Many guilds just didn't want to have to summon their shamans from a Cata dungeon every pull for 500 attempts (which is exploiting anyways) or didn't have 2 shamans to do the mechanic at all. So they skipped the raid on mythic.
had to watch a video on uunat, i couldn't even remember the fight... only thing i remember from that fight in LFR was to only get the giant bubble shield and healers can heal thru the rest.
Best WoW guy here on YT Able to understand 100% without beeing a native speaker and without CC haha I can totaly see why you have a playlist named Go to sleep :D
Does anybody have the name of the add on the paladin is using during #2 for his CDS? I’ve seen it in other videos but I have no clue what the name is and would love to use it for my paladin
Thank you .. but I’m still waiting for the top ten highest mountains in WoW.....
that sounds like an video idea for wowcrendor to do lol
@@ayligerwolf I agree =)
top ten highest mountains with special guess....
From mmo-champ:
“Nordrassil (the World Tree) is the clear winner here, as it should be. The upper leaves reach a point of 2,713.4 game yards above sea level, and the highest part you can actually stand on, is still higher than any other location, at 2,450.7 GY
As for the rest - a combination of tall points, and guesses from this thread:
The tips of the spires of ICC, Icecrown (2,153.9)
Temple of Storms, Storm Peaks (1,990.4)
Unnamed Hyjal peak {67.67, 37.60} (1,970.6)
Unnamed Hyjal peak {53.50, 39.60} (1,889.4)
Temple of Storms, Storm Peaks (natural geography) (1,880.5)
Ulduar’s roof, Storm Peaks (1870.7)
Temple of Order, Storm Peaks (1832)
Terrace of the Makers, Storm Peaks (natural geography) (1665.3)
Highmountain Peak, Highmountain (1577.9)
ICC, Icecrown (Lich King Platform) (1544.1)
Violet Citadel tip, Dalaran (Broken Isles) (1279.3)
Neverest Pinnacle, Kun Lai Summit (1229.5)
Violet Citadel tip, Dalaran (Northrend) (1191.9)
Shala’drassil, Val’sharah (1179.1)
Veiled Stair peak, Pandaria (1137)
Reflection Peak, Highmountain (1125.2)
unnamed Kun-Lai peak {54.01,54.08} (1000)
Kota Peak, Kun-Lai Summit (920.921)
Unnamed Dun Morogh peak {64.11,26.13} (896.3)
Heart of Fear (891.2)
Twilight Citadel (879.7)
Blackrock Mountain (858.5)
…
??. Wyrmrest Temple (441.7)”
I like that idea
N'zoth on LFR from Ny'alotha.
Easily the number one hardest boss.
yeah its pretty bad.
Yes
Oh god, especially when you have people that don't understand how to see what group you're in, or what it means to go under or stay. Oh, don't forget people that forget to keep an eye on their insanity!
Yeah the chances of an LFR group clearing N'Zoth on the first try is abysmal.
main mechanic: dying as much as possible to accumulate determination
11:30 to be fair, Big bad Kil'jaeden deserved to be so hard. We prevented his summoning 10 years prior and even that was very hard.
I really like these videos about difficult bosses. Even though I will probably never fight them, these videos make me feel like I'm a part of the playerbase who fought them.
Fallen Avatar was the one fight that made me take a long break from raiding, even missing the AotC for Kil'jaeden
I saw part with Kil'jaden, picking aura of Mercy and Holy Prism, and felt better instantly, because many people flamed me for picking them on KJ, while upgraded Aura of Mercy countered darkness dot...
Thank you hiru, for brightening my day!
uunat's main difficulty was the last phase no healing anymore mechanic alongside all the other things. But really the hardest part on it was the damage from the ppl who could not be healed
omg how your vids so good
Hc Lich king shouldn't be in the list too,he was impossible to kill till they nerf him hard ,don't forget the saronite bomb cheat people used ..
1:59 Honest question. How can a boss with a higher wipe-counter not be a harder boss? (Jaina vs Blackhand)
Looking at KJ, he was literally impossible to kill in its first iteration. Similarly, Jaina was overtuned and nerfed during the world first progression. Blackhand on the other hand was just really difficult, but didn't require nerfing to overcome
wasn't this video posted again?
I expected to see LK here
Tomb of Soakgeras ahhhhh
Maybe adjust the title and also since we already heared Most of these bosses nerfs /bugs /first kill / mechanics maybe cutting them out would be better
Don't you guys have hair?
"But... but... vanilla wow was the most hardcore, you all retail newbies are bad."
They were right.
Peddling the modern players are better nonsense makes this a pile of $%&&. Also pretending that 1.12 classic servers represent the real difficulty of the vanilla raids.
Ragnaros had 7 abilities... mages have 1 spell. Which raid in vanilla was harder than any BFA tier?
Video about 'Wipes' edited by Flying Buttress. There's a joke in there somewhere.
HAHAHA :D
"The average raider in classic wow didn't even use a flask"
and we still don't
yeah the bosses to easy
Always max my character out, im here to DPS... Surely wan't to be buffed as much as poss. :)
Uhhh I know the only thing i don't always do is augment rune
It's super expensive unless you dungeon grind as a mage.
Man of culture
"Top 10 Raids With The Highest Wipe Counts in World of Warcraft" This should count the wipes for all bosses in the raid, right? Nice video btw!
Would make it skewed since raids have varying amount of bosses. Maybe an average boss wipe?
"Top 10 Raids"
Blackwing Lair memories
Top 1 is obviously Emerald Nightmare because the bosses of that raid wiped so fast to top guilds lol
I dunno. The my LFR against N’Zoth the other night is probably a contender for first place.
Good job Blizzard for the real life insanity mechanics.
_Just fucking use the big button on your scree-of course you got MC’d again..._
Watching a hiru video, look in my sub box, new hiru video
Also, Blackhand is misspelled in the RUclips separator thingy.
I see stuff like this and I think to myself "that's why I don't hardcore raid!" lol
Title: Raids
Video: Bosses
Also, Reeeeeally getting punched in the face with Deja vu
Imagine Darius being a raid boss he gets a kill on a player and then wipes all of the other players with his ulty lmao
@@DiablitoKawaii sounds like Mandokir. I'm thinking he gets 5 stacks on a tank and fixates a healer or dps. When he gets to them, they are rooted and given 5 stacks. Darius takes 5 seconds to cast Guillotine. In that time, the targeted player has to use a nearby, dead add's body to hit Darius midair and stop the Ult. Otherwise he respeats with another target and gains a damage boost stack
@@RetroWrathX13B Darius raid boss confirmed , gotta free him from the ruined king lmao
I love that he doesn't mention the name Method, like I get why but it just makes me laugh
Whats there any controversy?
Did something happen with Method or what ? :D
Babko Rudyomega a raider of method was exposed for being a pedophile and method knew about it way before but didnt do anything until it became mainstream news
raz daaaaaam thats shit
@@razziyi 2 people got accused
Hey Hirumared, there's a typo in the 2nd section of the video's length btw, it says "blackahnd" instead of "blackhand". ;p
everyone is lucky Hogger was never a raid boss.
True.
All those lvl 1 raid Videos tell me a different Story!
Hogger in classic is so hard to beat you need more than 5 people to kill him.
I remember a blizzcon during WotLK where topguilds had a raid comp, racing eachother to clear the raid the fastest. It was during ToC and when they were done and killed anub'arak blizz spawned hogger as a boss. The hogger just dashed through the raid with nonstop warrior charges and oneshotted everyone. Truely an unbeatable boss.
@@cornflakeshumunculus8373 in vanilla yes because players used to suck really bad but in classic i killed him solo with a warrior without any gear from AH or health pots
The title should be "Top 10 Raid Bosses With The Highest Wipe Counts in World of Warcraft
" or the video should've been about the whole raid.
Yeah your right, I dont know how I missed that in the title.
hirumaredx a top 10 raids with the most wipes would be cool but I don’t know if you can research that
@@axl4394 should be easy, top guilds keep wipe count for all bosses
Florin Buffon Cool
@@axl4394 You would also have to account for raids having a different amount of bosses though.
Man Uu'nat was such an awesome fight. Wish my guild fought it more than once.
I didn't even know this boss b4 this vid
The entire raid, and I loved Uu'Nat, the entire rest of my guild despised every aspect of the raid,so we cleared it once and then never went back :(
Mythic Uu'nat was nice. Showed real skill from guilds on Mythic. We killed it 2 times before essences were introduced... Then guilds that shouldn't have gotten CE got it with them. Big cheaters.
Halondrus inc ...
Here before the Bald King arrives
It's friday so i guess the Bald King must be taking a break on ICC (iced coke citadel)
@@notb10 no, he's doing an +5 WCM, (warm coke citadel), even a +10 is too much for his 5head
Pretty sure he hasn't reacted to this channel for almost a year.
The avg player isn't as good today is a relative statement lol. Auto pilot mods don't make a better pilot. Just more homogenized.
I played classic recently. People play worse. Full world buffs with UBRS buff, with full tier 2, 40 people's, wiping on Rag weekly.
It's common lol. Players plan raids with all the class n precision of a gal shopping Amazon catalogs. But don't know the encounters.... Still. After 16 yrs. Standing in fire....
Could have mentioned that Uu'nat is the only fight to have vacant Hall of Fame spots for Alliance, only 42 Alliance guilds killed it
Hey there buddy!
Line of sight mechanics are awesome. Man, I worry about you sometimes because you complain about things that literally add more excitement to the game.
“Did you know only 34.6% of people”
Has 130k views, with 250k subs?
Pretty shitty math there
You say something in the video that I've actually wondered before. Comparing the world first to the world second. What fights have the longest time/kills from first to second? Or which fights have the shortest.
A few ideas for future videos:
Top 10 raid bosses never featured in a countdown video.
Top 10 raid bosses that seem really cool and deserve a little extra backstory.
Top 10 most hated bosses in dungeons/raids
Hirumaredx AND Platinum upload in the same day? What did we do to deserve such a gift!?
I don't know, if hirumaredx even research for his videos? Since place 4, he just talked nonsense about bosses and how the nerfes went. Ragnaros frost patches got "removed" far later on and not after killing it for the first time. At kil jaeden he says that entire raids had to switch to goblins, but only priests needed to because they hadn't any possibility to counter one knockback ability in the shadow phase. Every other class was able to do it. At Jaina, people switched to troll to exploit the ability, because you were able to lose the frost debuff ability with the troll racial which shouldn't happen.
There is also the fact that KJ's pull count was not only because of overtuning and bugs, it was a relatively bug-free encounter for the most part, also the overtuning was true but only for a very short period of time it was nerfed within days of Method reaching it to where it largely remained for a long time. The main difficulty was the extreme punishment from messing up mechanics even slightly (if you missed soaking a single meteor it was a wipe and there were a lot of meteors at a time, the darkness phase ended up being undertuned once the DK strat was discovered and the final phase was largely undertuned as well but it was also largely BS because the insane amount of pillars meant you needed to even reach the final phase only to be blindsided by a mechanic being turned up to 11 that was largely trivial in the original version, once you're safe spot marker figured out the last phase it was basically guaranteed to die the next time you saw the phase.
Makes me wonder how much we wiped on Sunwell bosses. You are right, it never occurred to anybody back then to keep track. I do recall several all-nighters against Mu'ru though. Half of that boss fight was dealing with guild turnover.
We used to rotate drums of battle through a stacked melee group. I had the honor of being Ret in that group (depending on the fight, but mostly Brutalus) back in a time when the spec was barely justifiable in a raid at all. Let alone contributing to ~top 25 kills. Fun times.
But seeing this laid out, with newer bosses I never heard of. I'll say it feels like I had it easy.
Garrosh, the last time I completed the hardest difficulty well ahead of the achievement being removed.
Hello, had a idea for a new top 10. miscellaneous quests that give a fun reward... like the quest where you defend the farmers land from the undead for the singing sunflower pet. There is a mini game or something that you have to play to complete the quest so I feel it was rather unique
Fucking Archimonde. Trigger warning next time pls
im glad i was part of 10 man garrosh after 900 plus wipes
Wont this just be top 10 hardest raid bosses again lol! Jk good video as always.
I swear I have PTSD from Thokk the Bloodthirsty in SoO. That damn interrupt.
World first!
Haha the other guy types first too but you beat and he deleted it 😂
Yogg 0 Light is still my all time favourite Raid Boss. Incredible Hard (even after the nerf) and so satisfying to pull off. Then again nearly every Boss in Ulduar was exceptionally well designed even if some of the Hardmodes where overtuned as shit at the start like Mimiron or Hodir :D
And my god Tomb of Sageras still gives me PTSD.. fuck Avatar and especially fuck Kil´Jaeden.
"Did you just taunt?"
"DO IT !!"
Just pointing out that the later raids in WOTLK actually had the number of attempts capped per week. So a high wipecount was actually not possible on those bosses. I like the metric for comparing all raids since Cata though :)
1. Mythic Hogger
RAID: Mogushan Vaults (Looking For Raid mode)
BOSS: *Durumu the Forgotten*
GAME: Mists of Pandaria
My then-only Hunter: "FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUU" :O
Jaina was such a trash fight. That fight, if it wasnt broken as f*ck, would have taken 100 pulls, tops.
First off, she queued her spells, which meant the timings would sometimes be off by a good 10-15 seconds between attempts, completely throwing the entire attempt off.
Second, in p2, she did a blizzard overlapping with an ice fall, and if you got bad RNG with the ice fall, which was maybe 2-3 attempts per night, it was just a wipe.
Finally, the intermission phase and phase 3 were completely broken and did not function properly. Continuing to gain stacks during the intermission, combined with the absurd health on the elemental, meant that it was just not mathematically feasible to do p3 and the intermission "properly" without people getting iceblocked, and the iceblocks in mythic were basically unkillable with how much HP they had, so killing iceblocks was not an option. So all the pre-nerf kills of jaina just kept the elemental alive, and burned jaina down in p3, ignoring basically the entire intermission because it did not function properly.
basically, jaina sucked ass and should only be on this list as a technicality, since it was one of the most mechanically broken fights they had done in a while, and not exactly "hard".
I would like to know the wipe count for the heroic Ragnaros world 2nd kill. It took a super long time to get another guild than Paragon to kill the boss. Paragon was back then in a league of their own.
Seeing Jaina again reminds me about having passed out during her fight, I knew I was getting heavy burn out when that happened.
Didn’t M‘uru (Sunwell) also put a huge wall up? I mean only 6 guilds killed him before he got nerfed. Had expected him at 1. or 2. to be honest.
Huh. Watching this after the world first amirdrassil, it’s interesting to note that Fyrakk would make this list. He’s a pretty difficult boss.
Gulash have low wipe count because that fight was long AF. I think that boss was much harder than all BfA bosses
On Llane my guild was realm first on killing Garalon after 450ish wipes. Most due to the ridiculous issues with transferring pheromones.
I know this is not the point but I came here to compare wipe counts on ffxiv vs. wow, after the latest raid had an approximate wipe count of 738, on a 21 minute fight. Really puts into perspective how hard that raid was
I am 100% certain that this is a reupload, just with a different title
*Video starts* Hiru: "in this video..."
Queen Azshara was awesome as a fight. And line of sight mechanics aren't that bad. They require attention...just like many other mechanics. Putting it as one of the worst fights ever is pretty lame
I'm confused. In the #1 hardest boss he says that it's the only one from BFA but #9 and #8 are also from BFA. Was that a misread on his part or am I missing something else he said?
Uu’nat was a joke it was literally just a mini raid that was purposely too difficult to create massive hype about the top guilds completing it for world first no casual players played that fuckin garbage.
If you base this list off of mechanics and not game breaking over tuning. Kiljaden, Archimonde and Queen Azur are the hardest.
classic bosses werent hard, they were bugged, because if you kill a boss with moving slightly to side and spamming one key, is considered hard, i dont know how nostalgic these stupid people who cant even do mechanics right in a normal raid are
Man that boss of a priest who solo healed garrosh didnt have to flex that hard
He did it while flexing the 'my little pony' weak auras too
Vanilla guilds not using flasks and minor buffs to max out? Total nonsense. We would grind all week and max out profs if it gave even +5 anything. Love these videos but he is talking out his bottom on this.
You do know he's obviously not talking about all of the guilds, right?
Of course, some guilds min-maxed, but it's common in the WoW community to know that min-maxing wasn't a big thing in the original version of the game thus only a small % of players did it compared to today.
Top 10 hardest LFR bosses
Nzoth is on all 10 spots
The only thing this video tells me is that for some god forsaken reason Blizzard doesn't even play their own game. Why else would there be so many bosses that are over tuned to the point where its almost impossible to even win?
Kil'Jaiden, pretty much the architect of the WoW time line, should be nearly impossible to beat.
Azshara one of the worst bosses? Damn, I actually really liked that fight lmao
As someone who did the AOTC Uu'nat achievment, i require mental aid
The first guy who dislikes was like : " shit i don't get the first comment, well i need to be first somehow "
Thanx for revealing that I don't suck....these bosses are just hard
Just waiting for Asmongold to react to this and disagree with all of them despite the wipe counter
So wow retail is harder then wow classic?
Classic fanboys: shut up blizzard shill! RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Jaina was a horrible fight from a design standpoint on mythic. Her spell queuing caused so much RNG that you could be 200+ pulls in and still get different combinations of attacks.
Yeah, it really was. She did some spellqueuing in hc as well but mythic just threw that out of the water.
Nothing like doing a pull where she somewhat follows the ability order she should and then next pull she casts nothing but her tank ability for like a minute straight before throwing you into the hell of Blizzard, Avalanche, whatever the frontal cone was called and then bombardment for good measure in the span of five seconds.
Not only that but some of the other mechanics were random as well, making the fight pure RNG fest and you could lose a perfect pull to shit RNG you could do nothing about. Undetectable Icefalls through your raid because of Blizzard were a good design, right? :')
I can't even imagine the amount of patience you'd need to have to do something 300+ times. I'd tap out of after 3 or 4 wipes.
So... just top 10 hardest bosses with extra steps?
Eh more like a skewed version of it since Uunat definitely wouldn't be #1, Fallen Avatar wouldn't be on the list at all, nor would Garrosh/Azshara, and arguably Archimonde because the vast majority of guilds found Archimonde/Garrosh to be very easy once the resources were released. Azshara/Fallen were just RNG paired with insane gear requirements and Uunat's wipe count is massively inflated.
I've noticed the percentage at the end of these going up, good job on that Hiru
Min/maxing is the curse of modern gaming. Choosing a profession just for a moderately easier raid experience? This is not RPG anymore, might as well go play Excel tables.
I mean if a player enjoys min/maxing it's totally fine. But when such players start to define game experience for every single other player they come in contact with, then there's a problem.
God this game looks awful LOL! HOLY BAD!!!!
N'zoth?
With regards to Uu'nat, Unstable Resonance wasn't the main reason why it required so many wipes to kill. The fight was a mess of timings, and you had many pulls which were RNG wipes because of bad overlaps. For example for a significant part of progression he could drop pools mid resonance, meaning you had the choice between a third of the raid dying - which is a wipe - or healing the boss - which is a wipe. It was also bugged to hell and back for the first couple of days, the adds permanently healed after they had started healing once, making the fight once again more or less impossible + many other things. All in all it was just a stupidly hard fight.
BfA may suck but the raids where pretty good (in fact the only thing that keep me playing the game), in particular BoD was my favourite. Also the addition of "encounter music" is a thing that i'll always remember from this exp. Still the removing of Tier sets is a BIG con tho.
H 25M LK probably has a wipe count closer to 300. Remember the limited attempts per week and the fact that top guilds were running at least two teams a week - their mains and a replica of alts to figure out mechanics/come up with strats before their mains were brought in. Top guilds during this time period talk about the frustration of the limited attempts as it increased the work-load for them due to an arbitrary number of attempts per week. Plus, it seemed like a moot point as H LK was buggy and over-tuned, so dealing with that alone would make the 50 attempts per week even more hair-pulling.
blizzard should have to be able to beat the boss b4 they send them out
The other aspect of Uunat is that the fight was just incredibly tightly tuned because mythic raiders complained about Battle for Dazar'alor being undertuned except for Jaina. Since it was basically a 'bonus' instance for people who had finished BfD already, Blizzard just jacked the numbers up to the absolute edge of human possibility, crossed their arms and said 'beat it'. And they did, eventually.
Contrast with ToS Kil'jaeden, where they got it to the point where the in-house raid team could just barely beat it and then jacked the numbers and mechanics up by another 25% to compensate for how much better the world first-level players were, except it turned out the in-house raiders weren't as bad as they thought they were.
If we take Ragnaros as an example .. 15min averge time to kill x 500 tries = 7500 min = 125 hours = 5 days and half IRL just to kill raid boss .. I rather play arena or BG
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Our guild only spent 7 hours on sunstrider back in TBC...for the night we killed him xD
i prefer having last boss over tune, players can farm other bosses for better gears and attempt it again. Even if they cannot kill the boss there might be progression like get the boss to 30%, 25%, 20% every week. Last boss should be powerful, maybe player has to wait for later raids gear to boost their power to kill the boss. if you know that you still have a boss to beat, it will at least give you a reason to keep playing to improve your gear.
You forgot to mention that Uunat had a mechanic where it was benefitial to have someone die and get rezzed outside of the room to trigger one of the artifact which lead to most guilds abusing the shamans ankh mechanic to deal with it. This lead to the infamous cataclysm dungeon reset which gave shamans the ability to reset the 30min xD on ankh for every boss pull.
Many guilds just didn't want to have to summon their shamans from a Cata dungeon every pull for 500 attempts (which is exploiting anyways) or didn't have 2 shamans to do the mechanic at all. So they skipped the raid on mythic.
had to watch a video on uunat, i couldn't even remember the fight... only thing i remember from that fight in LFR was to only get the giant bubble shield and healers can heal thru the rest.
How about Top 10 longest lived characters in warcraft universe.
I dont mean immortals like nelves or demigods and etc.
Top 10 longest lived mortals 😄
Best WoW guy here on YT
Able to understand 100% without beeing a native speaker and without CC haha
I can totaly see why you have a playlist named Go to sleep :D
Hello, what addons are you using that show the range of yards away from the target, the number below that shows 0-5, 8-10, 10-15, 38-40 etc on 3:51
Does anybody have the name of the add on the paladin is using during #2 for his CDS? I’ve seen it in other videos but I have no clue what the name is and would love to use it for my paladin