seriously i never new that the titankeepers beat yogg with his own tactics, playing mindgames with on of the biggest if not the biggest illusionist in Warcraft.
An honorable mention or something should have been made for the Lich King, since he's one of only 2 bosses that actually kill the heroes as part of his fight, or at least he used to before we out scaled it.
I will also like to mention that he goes Ez on us and Azeroth, if Uther is to be believed Arthas humanity is what kept The lich king and the scourge from consuming Azeroth all life. If it wasnt for him to die Azeroth will be dead 😂 Man i really wish there is an alternate timeline where all life bows to the lich king
@@darkwhispersstories47 Likly world wouldve fallen under his control if he won against the raid/champions. But are beings on azeroth that are stronger ( by alot) then the lich king. Like azshara,Leishen,the old gods And others could still win and kill arthas like titan keepers or elemental lords,or aspects +deathwing might not be guranteed wins but its certainly possible they could win. Also the tolvir got reorgination device in uldum which is acviated fully would wipe out the socurge completly
as far as I understood discussions in game (I think it was mother who says it after you kill N'zoth) that all Old god signatures have been cleansed. meaning C'thun and Yogg are dead. Of course, thise might mean "outside of their prisons" but I don't know.
I don't think we'll ever top the lore power level of our characters in Legion. Like seriously, we had god killing weapons and in the final raid we had trinkets explicitly empowered by the Titans to make us into Titanslayers.
Archimonde/KJ should be just below the Titans Saying the they didn't have feats is terribly misinformed. You know KJ literally assimilated every race into the burning Legion KJ is the supreme commander of the strongest army of the lore and the greatest aracnist ( along with Velen ) in the cosmos below a single elemental lord? WTF man
I agree that they should probably be closer to or above the Elemental Lords but saying "just below" the Titans is delusional. Aman'Thul pulled out Y'Shaarj from Azeroth with little effort. He could probably kill Kil'Jaedan by just breathing on him.
Honestly, the power level differences between Archimonde, Kil'jaeden, Azshara, Medivh / Aegwynn, and Deathwing (possibly also Lei Shen) I think are very small and I'd have a hard time picking a winner. I would say that Azshara is 100% without a doubt as powerful as Archimonde or Kil'jaeden seeing as Manny himself stated that she was on par with them back when she was still a Night Elf before being empowered by N'zoth. Medivh / Aegwynn are guardians that I would say are on equal power levels, and Aegwynn solo'd the Avatar of Sargeras while Medivh struck fear into the heart of Deathwing. Lei Shen is up there because he stole the power of Aman'thul and Ra-den and was such a massive threat that the Forge of Origination was used to kill him. The weirdest character to determine in terms of power level is Deathwing, as I feel like he received a massive boost in his power once Cata came out with the Cata lore. In the older books, there is a part where Deathwing gets into a fight with Gruul (not a character that is particularly powerful, maybe on par with Manny or Magtheridon) and Khadgar and quite frankly lost the battle pretty hard, whereas in Cataclysm he was a bigger threat than perhaps even his master N'zoth and could literally nuke the entire planet with one spell.
The Sha are technically the remnants of Y'Sharjj so... if, magically, you were able to put them all back together with his heart... you could resurrect Y'Sharjj
I think Deathwing was more powerful than the Old Gods in terms of raw strength. If you were to pit the corrupted Deathwing against any of the weakened Old Gods (since that's how we face them in game), Deathwing would certainly be the one to come out on top. The core strength of the Old Gods lie in their ability to attack the mind, whittling down your sanity and such. I think people tend to forget just how firm Neltharion's will once was. You have to remember that Deathwing only became their minion after millennia of being exposed to their corruption.
yeah i agree, i do still believe if they were to "fight" deathwing would lose, because the old gods would just manipulate them (ik they were controlling him) but even if they werent they would definitely be able to control him
Deathwing only was that powerful because he was getting power directly from N'zoth. Almost everything Deathwing did during Cataclysm was him using N'zoth's power.
Deathwing wouldn't compare even to N'zoth ( the physically weakest ) in terms of raw strength, the old gods span literal kingdoms, their tentacles would be far larger than Neltharion himself. He's just a super-charged dragon you can't compare him with eldritch cosmic horrors hundreds of times his size.. sure he can probably win against the avatars players get to fight but if one of them suddenly surfaced he'd just get slapped out of the sky.. it's like comparing an old god with a titan.. the strongest of them just got ripped off the planet and flung into the cosmos like it was just a weed..
This list doesn't give justice to archimonde or kiljaeden. They are powerful draenai buffed by sargeras, and the strength they get from sargeras is questionable
A normal warlock is a planet buster tho, there is a difference between destructive capabilities and attack potency. Ner'zul destroyed dreanor just by creating portals Nd not specifically trying to destroy it, he became way more powerful as the lich king with the jailer buff and kill'jeaden buff, just the helm is at least star level and arthas as the lich king is arround multi star/solar system, as the jailer is a multygalaxy + level being. Id actually put Arthas and Archimonde and Kill'jeaden above the old gods. With arthas scaling up to > above KJ and Arch.
NOBODY'S LOVE YOU? YOU'RE TOO WEAK? USE OLD GOD JUICE! -Power -Old god friends -Old god minions BUT! If you see a group of random heroes coming for you,DO NOT FIGHT THEM!
Sargeras, even with his broken sword he would beat any ass. Sargeras was the champion of the pantheon and his assist which was lower ranked than sargeras was argrammar . The pantheon ordered Sargeras to clear out the demons until he started to believe that there cant be any "peace" in the universe, felt in depresseion, got corrupted after defeating Nathrezhim. His "rightful" blade/sword splitted in two after the blade saw that he got mad, the blade diddnt wanted to serve sargeras anymore, so he only could took the other part of the blade to use it, gorribal was the used blade from now on, he left the blade Telshalach behind bcs its useless for him , since than, agrammar, his old novice found Telshalach and obtained it, became the "new" champion of the pantheon since Sargeras left. Sadly there was any Source on azeroth that were powerful enough to hold sargeras summoning. FunFact: Sargeras gave illidans his "new" eyes and everything that illidan can see, can also sargeras see. His story as a whole is insane, you should watch it up.
I agree, I haven’t delved into the lore of the artifacts and I’m wondering just how strong they might be if they’re considered the most powerful weapons in existence
Number 1: The big fire doggo from molten core. He is just a damn old flame hound, like how even is he a boss in the raid? He basicaly has the same presence in lore like a random midle of the dungeon boss from wotlk
N'zoth may have been weaker than his siblings. But lets remember that through sheer wit alone he was able to best C'thun and Yog Saron both in battle when the Old Gods warred with eachother after they established the Black Empire.
i really like that nzoth isn’t the strongest old god in terms of power alone, but his smarts and wits are so strong that he can still best his siblings. i love characters that aren’t the most physically strong but are very very clever.
I’m surprised to not see Algalon in the list. While is it difficult to know how powerful he can be, he’s probably stronger than the bottom listed bosses.
Murmur is noted in the readable text as a planet busting elemental lord of sound always wished he had more to him in-game, not a raid boss but had potential to be
SubtleBloodshot he definitely has potential for being a raid boss the dungeon boss was a mere echo of murmur, and it is stated in lore that murmur’s sigh destroyed an entire world
I'm pretty sure the elemental Lord's can't die, they just go back to their domain and recharge when they get defeated. Idk if this is true, but it makes sense since rag was in 2 raids.
Fallen Avatar was defeated by (essentially) a mortal. We don't really see how powerful Azshara became after becoming a Naga, but I'm pretty sure she's more powerful than Archimonde, Kil'jaden, and probably on par with the Titan Keepers.
@@Kylora2112 Fallen avatar was defeated by THE Guardian, and it was planned that Sargeras would lose to her because he was waiting for the chance to either take over her or if she ever had a child. Which she did, which was Medivh, and used Medivh to do numerous heinous acts in order to take down Azeroth from within. But Sargeras avatar was really just a husk compared to when Aegwynn defeated it. Also I wouldn't call Aegwynn "essentially" a mortal, she prolonged her life and youth for several hundred years using her magic alone. But Helya is probably more accurate for the number 10 spot since there really is no telling from where she got her powers, which to me, seem Old God inspired. Also honestly Kil'Jaeden is more powerful than Archimonde, mostly because he was alive for longer and also because he actually never died. Archimonde first passed away at the battle of Hyjal. Kil'Jaeden never died in the sunwell raid, we simply just kicked him back into the portal which he had created.
@@Knallpulverklemp That looks like a good wall of text im lazy to read but you seem to have confused the avatar of sargeras with fallen avatar of sargeras, he got weakened
@@oxilef8471 but what's interesting is that in fact, a strong enough ground attack could still affect sky creatures, if you collapse a lot of the ground, the Shockwave resulting could affect flying beings, it would then mean that ground attack of huge scale could hit flying creatures. Like a huge earthquake.
You got something wrong when discussing Lei-Shen. After Aman'thul died he passed his powers to Ra-Den which Ra-Den stored away and those were the powers that Lei Shen stole so full power Lei-Shen had the power of a literal Titan, not a Titan keeper which no doubt places him higher. Though the Lei Shen we face isn't nearly that strong
@@jayej3834 Nope, It was revealed in Chronicle one he died invading Uldum and the Tol'Vir Activated the Forge of Origination on him turning Uldum to a desert.
I agree with most except Queen Azshara 100% deserves the spot over Archimonde. You said it yourself, her powers rivaled theirs BEFORE she got a big power boost by N'Zoth.
I disagree with this list. I have played since vanilla, read every book and heavily contributed to wowpedia. This is my list: 1. Argus 2. Aggramar 3. Old Gods 4. Archimonde/Kil’jaeden 5. Azshara 6. Deathwing 7. Odyn 8. Ra den 9. Helya 10. Lei-Shen The elemental lords are no where near as powerful as you think they are. They are big and imposing but certain powerful mortals can solo them. Titan high keepers like Odyn and Ra den are more powerful. Also G’huun is not a real old god. He’s just a bit of mutated flesh created from them.
I think the strongest being ever faced by the heroes of Azeroth was Murmur, the destroyer of worlds. Although only his echo was summoned and defeated, it destroyed an entire area now known as the bone waste in Outland just by summoning it.
Honestly the "real" form of Murmur would probably be on the level of an Old God if not stronger. The little Lore we have around this being is frightening. The fact that we only fight a fraction of its Power adds to that.
@@Y0G0FU I'm thinking it could be far more powerful considering that it consumes worlds and is the strongest elemental in existence. The void lords would need to send an army such as multiple old gods and their minions to destroy a world, while Murmur can do it on his own. I'm thinking that Murmur could be on the level of a Void Lord or a Titan.
I absolutely loved how the video was split up on the time-lapse bar, showing who was up on the top 10 ten list. I haven't really seen this used anywhere else, and it really adds value to the video, in my opinion.
Yaaaay. When i started on this channel, I watched these videos while I was playing wow. Now i try to play while i'm watching this videos. Good work man.
NPCS: Hero come with great haste! We are beset upon by the most fearsome foe to ever exist! It would take armies of the most powerful beings to even combat the this monstrous foe! Hero: Oh n0es what we do?! NPCS: IDK just um... grab like 24 random dudes in town and go kill it and like all of its friends in their easily accessible tower filled with minion fodder. Should only take like an hour or two... I'll totally give this ancient artifact of unbridled loling as a reward!
They're from his series detailing the backstories of various WoW villains. If you haven't seen it, it's definitely worth a watch. The artist did an amazing job, kinda getting this perfect mix of serious artwork, while also slipping in the occasional cute or humorous moment (so it isn't just a non-stop boring history lesson).
The art style seems pretty heavily inspired by overly sarcastic productions. Though they focus on history and writing tropes/stories. Theyre worth a look if you like that type of style of info dumping
I think you overestimate the elemental lord's and ghuun. Archimonde imo should be higher than those 3 and I think Kiljaden should also be ahead of them. Besides that I generally agree We don't know how many countless planets Archy and Jaden have dominated and that's probably more impressive than being some lesser creations of imprisoned beings
Were Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde retconned to be weaker? If not, they have no business being below any of the elemental lords. It's very unclear how strong the avatars of yogg and c'thun are, so whether or not they are more powerful than those is anyone's guess, but since N'zoth wasn't fought as an avatar, he is definitely above both of them
Literal unquestioned number 1 Destro Lock - Scepter of Sargeras Literally the scepter of Sargeras, it can tear apart planets with ease, spill oceans onto land at will and was the weapon that turned Draenor into Outland when wielded by Ner'Zhul Unquestioned number 2 Holy Priest - T'uure Literally a magical space wind chime on a stick, can bring people back from the literal dead Holy shit why the fuck did Blizzard give us these? Mix and match them in any order you want Windwalker Monk - Fist of the Heavens Raw uncontained Al'Akir juice in your hands Resto Druids - G'hanir A branch from the world tree, able to cleanse any type of corruption, even uncleansable corruption Shadow Priest - Xalatath Strong enough to be apart of BFA Resto Shamans - Sharas'dal Uncorrupted Well of Eternity water Balance Druids - Scythe of Elune This scythe is literally how the druids work lol, all their powers, their entire existence and how they did work was all because of this staff. Arcane Mages - Alune'th Aegwyn had it and chose it when she went toe to toe against the Scepter of Sargeras Mistweaver Monks - Shei'lun Remember how the expansion was called Mists of Pandaria? This staff is single handedly responsible for that and kept an entire continent hidden for seemingly centuries. Magic weapons that didn't really do much but they probably could have Blood DK - Maw of the Damned Magic blood sucking axe Frost DK - Blades of the Fallen Prince Pieces of Frostmourne Feral Druid - Fangs of Ashamane Wild god teeth Guardian Druid - Claws of Ursoc Wild god hands. Survival Hunters - Talonclaw Like literally every Wild God ever blessed this thing with a portion of their power lol Brewmaster Monks - Fu'Zan Freya (From Ulduar) planted a tree then she grabbed a stick to walk with it, then she gave it to Yu'Lon and Yu'Lon blessed it then Yu'Lon gave it to a monkey Holy Pallies - Tyr's Hand Tyr had it when he died. Ret Pallies - Ashbringer Magni made a sword that can kill the undead Ele Shamans - Fist of Ra'den Ra'den had some really cool weapons but then he lost them and Xuen found them and decided to hold on to them because they were cool Affliction Locks - Uthalesh Sargeras made a scythe that could suck souls then gave it to a lady that killed the Deadwind Pass then she died Demo locks - Thal'kiel The guy who taught Archimonde everything he knows was killed by Archimonde then his skull was used to empower summoning stuff Weapons wielded by really cool people, maybe some magic, maybe not, not enough to be a magic weapon Unholy DK - Apocalypse Dreadlords made it and I guess they never used it because there's like no info on what this sword actually does Havoc DH - Twinblades Just some blades that some demon hunter had Vengeance DH - Aldrachi Warblades A race called the Aldrachi got wiped out by the Legion but the last surviving guy killed a lot of demons with these weapons so the Legion grabbed them. BM Hunters - Titanstrike Mimiron made a really cool gun MM Hunters - Thas'dorah Alleria had it before she went bye bye Fire Mages - Felo'Malorn Kael'Thas had it and he used it when he got his ass kicked by Arthas then he dropped it Frost Mages - Ebonchill Some cool mage guy used it. Prot Pallies - Truthguard Some Vrykul had it and covered Archaedus and Tyr's escape when they stole the Discs of Norgannon Disc Priest - Light's Wrath The Scarlet Crusade tried and failed to make the Ashbringer 2 electric boogaloo and it exploded Assassin Rogue - Kingslayers Gul'dan made some daggers so Garona could kill King Llane Outlaw Rogues - The Dreadblades Some pirate had them Sub Rogues - Fangs of the Devourer Sargeras had a puppy that he really liked but then his dog died so he turned his teeth into daggers. Enh Shamans - Doomhammer Thrall's really cool weapon Arms Warrior - Strom'kar A sword that can kill trolls through they regeneration ability but then Warriors learned Mortal Strike and they didn't really need the sword anymore Fury Warrior - Swords of the Vala'jar A guy who really liked Odyn tried to kill Helya when she imprisoned him but he died and Helya kept his swords. Prot Warriors - Scale of the Earthwarder Deathwing lost a scale and a guy made a shield out of it And the actual real strongest artifact weapon Fishermen - Underlight Angler It's made of magic murloc and we didn't have to use it to destroy the sword so it's way better than all these useless paperweights up there.
@@Evan-mt7bc Good list, but I feel the need to defend havoc demon hunters and frost mages a bit. The havoc artifact was created by Kil'jaeden so that gives them a little more prestige than just being weapons used by a powerful demon hunter. And Ebonchill was used by Alodi, the first Guardian of Tirisfal, so in theory it could be compared to Aluneth or Atiesh.
I still argue that Azshara was the most powerful mortal to ever have lived, even before the Sundering and even before the Legion's first invasion of Azeroth. She lived her life right next to the Well of Eternity (a direct font of Azeroth's Titanic power) and drank power from it all her life (then ageless, thanks to the Aspect-blessed world tree granting all Night Elves immortality from death by old age). Then she got bored and opened universe-spanning communication with the Burning Legion in a bid for _even more_ power, as well as opening a cross-universe portal by herself to bring the Legion to Azeroth. After she got more power from the Legion, she also got _even more power again_ from N'zoth when the Sundering happened, and then an additional 10,000 years since then to modern day WoW to accumulate even more power and magical expertise. She was also able to shatter the Tidestone of Golganneth, a Titan-created world-shaping artifact, solo. Her Warbringer short even shows just how much power she had before N'zoth, when she creates and maintains (even if only for a short time) a city-wide barrier holding back the entire ocean mid-Sundering alone, in an effort to protect her people.
I'm abit confused about Azshara. In War of the ancients book, it was only stated that the night elves revered her and that she was indeed powerful, and Mannoroth was concerned about not angering her, but there was no mention of her rivalring Archimonde Also, I found no Lore reason why she should be SO much more powerful than the other high born, she was just a normal, but kinda powerful mage, no way guardian level. But she did basically nothing herself. No idea how much that is still canon, though.
@@Bliss467 After the second Well of Eternity (Nordrassil in Hyjal) was destroyed by Archimonde the night elves lost their immortality, and even when they made a new world tree, Teldrassil was not blessed by Nozdormu, so they never got it back. It's not however clear of Nordrassil is fully healed yet......it's also not quite clear how the night elves initially got their imortality, either via the FIrst Well or via some direct blessing from dragon aspects or Titans.
same here... cause he has some kind of "Nuke Everything and Reboot from beginning of all existence"-Button. And you can say whatever you want... but a resett for EVEYTHING that can't even be denied by the powers of even a Voidlord or something is more powerfull than anything ^^ Cause resett for everything means for me... EVERYTHING is NOTHING And beginns right from the Beginning of all existence and maybe will never be again cause existence maybe goes another way this time...
I don't agree with Nzoth being the weakest even if it is what it is said generally in the lore. For me Nzoth is the best of all old gods we have encountered and based on all the events in lore he was behind from the start it is impossible to be the weakest. His Patch and Nyalotha stuff and ending was a GIGANTIC FINGER TOWARD players and lore. Was that confirmed bye Blizzard that Yogg Saron created the Nightmare ? I though it was Nzoth too that corrupted the Emerald Dream as Xavius was his minion. All that we know is what Xal'Atath says
Archimonde and Kil'jaeden are planet reckers also (WOD Boss journal When Archimonde reaches 25% health remaining, he summons a massive meteor to destroy Draenor.)
Not fully true, emerald nightmare is actually combination effort of all 3 old gods. But first idea is by Yogsarron when he accidentally get contact with the world tree Vadrassil.
I would argue that the Old Gods themselves are not actually very powerful at all, albeit still incredibly dangerous. Their "power" comes from the ability to corrupt and control other extremely powerful beings, up to and including nascent titans, which in itself does not increase their own strength. They are just puppet-masters, not all that powerful individually. They need to play the long game in order to turn enemies against themselves, using *their* power as a weapon of their own. In a 1 on 1 encounter, without the delay caused by their minions allowing time to influence and corrupt their attacker, any individual Old God would probably be fairly easy to defeat. I would place Deathwing at #4 on this list (ahead of the Old Gods, obviously), for all the reason you gave, including because the source of his was given to him by Khaz'goroth, giving him vast power over the planet itself, some additional level of power given by the Old Gods (mentioned in Dawn of the Aspects), as well as (SPECULATION) an amount of power coming from his extended exposure to Azerite. Being the Earth-Warder, he would have been in proximity to Azerite, as Gallywix explained that even before Sargeras plunged his sword into Azeroth there were still pockets of Azerite in the deep earth, Deathwing's domain. But #3 on my list was one you did not mention (Possibly because he's technically a dungeon boss, not a raid boss) is Murozond. Still having the full powers given to him by Aman'Thul, the Highfather of the Pantheon of Titans, and without regard to maintaining the sanctity of time. I would argue that control over time is the most powerful ability the Titans gave the aspects, being able to travel through the timewaves to alter past actions, I should have been near impossible to defeat him, unless you too had control over time (or a big sad bronze boy's help), because he could simply travel back to your birth and kill you there. What makes him so powerful is his disregard for maintaining the timelines, allowing him to alter anything that doesn't suit his desires, and without the direct aid of Nozdormu, or a titan, Murozond would be able to defeat any other being on Azeroth. Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey cheating powers.
I would say that the Old Gods themselves are actullay very powerful in brute strength as well. The reason why old gods are mainly puppet masters is due to the fact that they were pretty much always locked up and couldn't use their brute force. Once an old god is no longer locked up, they can use incredibly strong raw power, strong enough to destroy an entire world I'd say. Their goal is never to just destroy a world though, the void's goal has always been coruption. The old gods aren't just going to blow everything up, they're going to corrupt it or die trying. Also I'd say that manipulation power is valuable enough to land you a spot on a strongest raid bosses list anyways. Raw physical power isn't everything. It's not like all of the old god's manipulation takes years either, some of it is just powerful instant manipulation. They can just walk up to you and mind control you or make you go insane as they do for raid mechanics. The old gods don't want to blow up azeroth (Death wing almost did tho so idk if they were gonna stop him at some point or what was going on there, maybe they already knew the heros would win?), especially due to azeroth holding a titan (one of the strongest apparently) that they could corrupt. If the old gods did want to blow up azeroth, it would've happened when they were all on azeroth and already controlling it for the most part. When you're playing chess, the objective isn't to flip the table and destroy the chess board even though you can easily do so, it's to win the game of chess lol. They've never been playing a game of brute strength even though they clearly have brute strength. The old gods will literally die just to win their game of chess. They'll leave the heros thinking that they've defeated all the corruption when in reality their death was just a distraction for a checkmate.
@@Sunny-zf1cm What makes you think they have the power to destroy the planet though? They've never demonstrated anything like that. The Old God fights in game have all consisted of minions, manipulations, and barriers, ment to extend the fight as long as possible in order to corrupt you. But once you get past those and it's just you alone with them, they tend to just fall over. If they were on their own from the start, it wouldn't be much of a contest between us and them. Remember that the keepers (Most of whom we've defeated ourselves), were able to overcome the fully empowered Old Gods AND their fully stocked up armies, all while being careful not to actually kill them. The Old Gods are the parasite minions of the Void Lords, spewed out probably by the billions in order to infect as many planets as possible; They're not the big bads. Think about it this way: The Old Gods on their own are best represented by the final stages of each of their raid fights. Their power unshackled can be overcome by a few keepers. Now imagine the fight between that, and Deathwing, who we had to shoot twice with the twice empowered Demon Soul, throw him into the maelstrom, sacrifice all the other Aspect's powers, and were still barely able to defeat him. There's no question in my mind that in a 1v1 Deathwing wrecks every Old God FAR before they could ever manipulate him.
Lots of lore was retconned over the years. I think years ago it was said that the Old Gods were powerful enough to even make Sargeras quiver in fear, but later they made it so that mere Titan Keepers can defeat and imprison them.
I'd argue that in terms of WoW bosses, Archimonde shouldn't be #10 but actually should be Algalon the Observer. While we don't know much of the beings called the Constellar, we know that Algalon single-handedly had the power of the cosmos, able to create black holes as well as stars and rend time and space as we know it. We also know that if we did not stop Algalon, he had the power to, on his own, send Reply Code: Omega which signaled to the Titans that the world required a complete restart. - Also, instead of Archimonde, there is a flurry of other titan keepers that you fight in Ulduar, to the point that if you wanted to fully and accurately create this list, half the list would be Ulduar due to the presence of Thorim, Freya, Mimiron and Hodir. All of which I'd argue are much more powerful than Archimonde due to their feats against the Old Gods.
Those weren't enimes tho. You stop algolon from blowing up the world which he was only going to do because of yog and he's an optional boss. The other keepers are just slightly corrupt. You save them. And they help you.
Titan keepers are golems empowered by Titans, Archimond is an Erdar empowered by a Corrupted, more powerful titan. I'd say they should be on par or slightly below him.
The Jailer is a titan at full strength, so when we face him we're expected to be more powerful then we were in legion IF we face him which will suck given how we didn't get to fight Sargeras. And before anyone suggests there's no way we could have, they could have made something like the titan avatars empowered us and made us all demi gods during the fight against Sargeras, but whatever.
Blizzard retcon the old gods again... after the death of n’zoth. The old god avatars are no longer avatars and we for sure killed them, and they made it sound like they went back to the void so we could see them again one day.
By confirming they were merely manufactured tumors, and that there were millions of them across the universe, they needed to get rid of them by killing them off for good. They are just not as threatening now as they were before that retcon Hopefully the Void Lords are as good
But Yogg'Saron is still causing shit to occur? Like in the prepatch for BFA with Magni in Ulduar, we see that it's making a resurgence and causing trouble.
Azshara definitely belongs on this list somewhere in the middle I would think. It's stated in lore that when Mannoroth grabbed her he felt a "whisper" of her true power (I think that's how it's stated but it's been a while) and felt fear, fear he had only known of one other being, Sargeras. Since Mannoroth is said to be on a level with Archimonde and Kil'jaeden, being one of Sargeras' 3 EQUALLY POWERFUL lieutenants, and that was BEFORE she was infused with old god juice, i would say that at the very least she belongs above Kil'jaeden.
@@Nzothf12 Quiet, you! I have had enough of your scurrilous whispers. No one listens to your lies anymore. Don't make me get out the heart of Azeroth and tell Mother to aim her beam at you again!
The titans are actually the most powerful beings in the universe - not the void lords! That's why they need to corrupt a titan in order to even do something. It's actually a DARK TITAN (NOT the void lords who corrupted him) who would be the most powerful being in existence - even Sargeras would be afraid of him. The void lords are just the "corruptors" with no real power in our universe.
You are wrong. Chapter 1 from chronicles gives us all the info we need to place the void lords higher in power then the titans. They cannot physically manifest in our universe but they can corrupt the beings from this universe.
@@TheVrabye How powerful the void lords are in comparison to the titans is unknown. They were described as being envious of the titans' power. - official lore
It’s funny seeing most people saying that Arthas should’ve been on the list and their only argument is “he’s the only one who defeated the players”, even though the video clearly says Top 10 Strongest Raid Bosses BASED ON LORE.
You forgot to add some things about argus he's actually way stronger then you think. His abilities are incredibly powerful . His normal abilities are described cleaving the fabric of reality thats some gogeta vs broly level ability. He survived a powerful blast from aman'thul who used the power of time to blast him into dust only to come back and kill us all (implying 4rth dimensional level of power?) And perhaps the greatest feat in all of wow to date is that he had the power to destroy all if creation and kill every1 and everything which puts at universal + level of power cause the warcraft universe in some cases is described as infinite and has many dimensions ontop of that. All that and he's being drained of his powers for thousands of years. I do believe that if he was at full power he could slap all the other titans no difficulty
@Hydra what do you mean young and foolish ? He was being tortured for thousands of years and he was driven almost isnane because of it. Despire being tortured while not even being a full titan all this time he still possesed all this power to accomplish such feats. Argus by far stomps all the titans combined with no difficulty if he was a normal titan and not this weakened and drained
Man, there is a reason we never actually fought sargeras... He would trump all of the other bosses by a long shot. The fact that destro warlocks were able to control his scepter is crazy. Honestly, we should have only had to sacrifice that single weapon to neutralize the sword, considering both weapons were made for sargeras.
I think Illidan could be on this list. In your strongest faction leader video you said that they had to be a faction leader and their measure of power was taken from when they were the strongest regardless of if they were the faction leader while they were most powerful. If that's the same in this video, Illidan wasn't as powerful when he was the final boss in black temple but now after he's killed a na'aru and is Sargeras' jailer (a fallen titan that was capable of killing the other titans and cleaved a planet in half). He siphons the power of demons getting stronger after every one he kills. Getting into speculation territory, I think now as Sargeras' jailer he can siphon Sargeras' power basically infinitely as he regains strength from the twisting nether. Illidan could be high on this list if not the top. Of course if he only counts as his appearance in black temple he wouldn't be on the list. Either way I enjoyed the video. Side note it would be cool if Illidan with Sargeras' power added to his pulls the sword from silithus to heal the wound.
Won't be canon though since he was just made up on the spot during Legion with no real backstory until mid BFA. It's obvious the main storywriters at Activizzard just pulled the idea out of their asses like Disney did with Snoke in the Star Wars sequels
Algalon is really hard to place since his power to destroy the planet was just in activating a device. And Argus uses a bunch of Planetars in his fights as adds, so there's no real feats of strength to fall back on.
Where do people get that it was a power boost from him. Now more than ever I’m convinced he simply saved her and her people. Nothing said in lore it was more than a physical transformation. She was also on full well power when she was as strong as those 2. After the sundering she was weak.
nzoth fully awake from prision.. was counter by a mantle made by 1 baby dragon xD but yog saron.. can destroy ur mind just by looking at him.. and it was a little fragment of him that scape prision.. so you can imagine how morbidly powerfull yog is.. if he goes full madness mode you cant even stand in front of him.. the dude corrupted TITAN FORGEs.. those guys almost dont have emotions.. they are machines.. and the dude created the emotions and flesh on them in order to corrupt them.. how powerfull must be to transform his enemies and also made them kill each other until only 1 fragment of him scape and start conflicts in 1 continent.. i refuse to believe he is dead.. he must be playing death
"we could never fight a Titan without the help of other titans.* Meanwhile we are almost certainly heading towards fighting another titan. Most likely without the help of any other titans. And without the help of artifact weapons (though who knows what Midnight and The Last Titan will bring for borrowed power.)
How abaout Algalon? Isn't he able to just set a Programm to reset like... Everything? Including our entire Universe and Reality... including the Titans and Everything ever existed? Or did I Remeber it a bit to much? Cause if Algalon has the Power to destroy EVERYTHING and restart it in this case he is even more powerfull than the Voidlords, cause he even can destroy them and starts complete existence from the beginning and maybe this time it will happen without the Voidlords... sooooo.... maybe him on Place 1?
Like Star Wars, even though N'Zoth's conclusion was kinda half assed, we can consider BFA the official canonical ending to WoW like Return of the Jedi or Mandalorian (depending on how that series finale goes) is for Star Wars, and just not consider Shadowlands lore canon like SW fans do with the sequels, so even if the Jailer, like Snoke, a character just made the fuck up out of no where during Legion, ends up being the lorewise strongest than all the other bosses on this list when he becomes the final boss in 9.3+, idk about everyone else but I won't consider it canon.
Sargeras be like: "ok". Also Deathwing is much more powerful than the old gods. HE got power of Earth aspect and is the strongest of them(which is part of a Titan's power). He also powered himself with others aspects powers. And he literally is the only one who changed the Azeroth as it is just by flying by. Also killing everything with a single breath. And it took an artifact of all aspects powers + all aspects + their powers + his own powers in the disc + heroes in order to kill him. When he turned evil while being harmed by it, he singlehandedly defeated both the Legion and the Dragons.
Coming back from this... yeah Jailer is easily more powerful than any of these beings, probably not Combined, but the dude literally controls the MAW, an almost inescapable hell hole that could've collapsed a good chunk of the universe, and is virtually omniscent in the Maw itself. He was so powerful he put the(forgive me but I don't recall her name, what the People of Oribos worship) to sleep and it took the player to reawaken her.
It doesn’t make sense that only the jailer is stronger then a titan. I would think/intuit that all of the faction leaders are stronger then the Titans in the SL.... Idk though because they still need to continue the game after the SL.....and seeing as the void lords only rivals are the Titans...... Argghhhh Blizzard really royally fucked their lore in the ass HARD‼️‼️‼️💯💯🖤
You mention void lords being more powerful than Titans, and didn't we fight Entropius when M'uru died? Yeah he was weakened but if the same logic applies to Yogg, he should be #1 on this list. "Only the most powerful of the void lords can actually manifest in the physical universe, weakened, and only for limited amounts of time, for their energies quickly seep into nothingness."
I'm kinda late to find this video, but i think you've miss someone insanely important of the lore of azeroth, probably stronger than the old gods. If we look at the lore, Algalon is supposed to be stronger than the titan keepers, he's in charge of monitoring azeroth, he's not part of the keepers, he's another kind race, which isn't even a titan one, the constellars. We don't even know if algalon was created by the titans or is part of the ultra powerful "Constellar" race found in our universe. the lore says *Their leader Aman'Thul called upon the constellar*, which mean to me he didn't created them, but simply found this race and asked them to work for the titans. There are only one of a kind, placed on each planets the titans are monitoring, and they are task to reset the planets (that are baby titans, let's remember that) if things go wrong. i actually wouldn't even be shocked to learn that he's stronger than the old gods, seen he wasn't affected by Yogg at all after all theses year, right next to his body. We can also remember that yogg didn't send the titan keepers to attack algalon at all, which seem to put him in the list for the strongers entity on the planet. We can also look at the fact that the most corrupted keeper, Loken, which is completely crazy by the end wrath wouldn't even try to attack algalon. Loken is trying anything he can to protect his secrets, the lore showed it, he's even trying to destroy the other titan keepers and the tools of that the titan gave them, yet he hasn't tried once to attack algalon. he's obviously aware of him, algalon is the supervisor of the keeper, he's the direct supervisor of loken, yet he tries nothing, which proves to me he's weaker than him. it's obvious algalon will one day find the corruption, loken, even with all his power, can't hide it forever, and he's the one that can reset the planet, killing the old gods, the new masters of Loken AND the keepers. That's something loken and the old gods wouldn't want at all and killing algalon would be the only way to prevent azeroth from being reset if not for the determination showed by the weaker races of azeroth (damn algalon is so nice to let us live, he's got a little beating heart that love tiny beings that want to save their planets, even thoses damn gnomes). There's also another theory that could explain why they don't touch algalon at all, or at least can't, but i think it's false, since the old god corruption didn't affected algalon when he was right next to an old god. With that theory, We could think that even if he was weaker than loken, if loken tries to kill him, the battle would simply end with algalon activating the reset of azeroth immediatly while holding loken, and nothing else. in the end, algalon can't be touched by loken, even if he was stronger, since algalon will be strong enough to fight him for a long time, and the reset of the planet would be activated before algalon dies. I genuinely think algalon is stronger than the keeper, the constellars seem to be the closest things to titans, being their direct messengers and a race that was here when the titan awoken from their slumbers (and just the name is an obivous reference to our reality, constellation and planets are binded together. A constellation is a bunch of planets, we immediatly think about the objectives of the race of alagalon, the constellars watch over the planets until they reach their titan form.) just for a bit more lore, it is said *Its primary function is to monitor Azeroth for any signs of corruption and, in the event of the death of the appointed Prime Designate* (here, it's talking about loken when he wasn't corrupted)*, proceed to conduct an analysis of the planet for the presence of systemic corruption in which he would re-originate the planet, bringing about the end of all life on Azeroth.* Algalon said himself *I have seen worlds bathed in the Makers' flames, their denizens fading without so much as a whimper. Entire planetary systems born and razed in the time that it takes your mortal hearts to beat once. Yet all throughout, my own heart devoid of emotion... of empathy. I. Have. Felt. Nothing. A million-million lives wasted. Had they all held within them your tenacity? Had they all loved life as you do?* It can possibly say two thing. Either algalon was shown by the titans what his task was and how world ends when he activate the kill-switch. OR, and it's probably what actually happened, it mean that Algalon himself destroyed multiple worlds that were corrupted by old gods before (or at least similar creature that are as strong, since they destroyed the keepers of the other planets and corrupted it beyond saving), yet, he's still here, alive and checking on azeroth, in a room completely clean, where nobody tried to enter. Algalon is the last line of defense in the absence of the titans, he's the messenger, i can't think of a stronger entity on azeroth than him. And if his raw power is maybe not insane (i still think he's insanely strong. he kills the players like ants if we think about it, if you don't show your determination fast enough, he just kill everyone and reset the planet xD, not even the keepers can do this.) , he's got complete power over azeroth itself. I'm also actually kinda sad to see that Blizzard completely forgot about him. he's alive, and a ultra powerful entity. since he doesn't want to destroy azeroth anymore, he should fight, or at least train the players to help them remove the existing corruption from azeroth... we could also think that, as the last line of defense, it's better to wait and check every now and then in case the players fail to remove the corruption, to not put himself in danger and to always be able to have the strenght to reset azeroth at any time.
I Think this list Would be beter if all Old gods would be puted on one spot no nearly 6. There are many more powerful creaturess in game that ppl do not remeber so clearly as those Old gods and Titans
The matter of the list is being an ingame boss the players fight. Otherwise Sargeras would top The list easily as he's the most powerful titan and even wants to take on the void lords who're considered to be as powerful as the Titans if not above them. Old gods are just puppets compared to the Void lords
Top 10 weakest raid bosses in lore
YES! Do it Hiruu
Bottom 10*
@@TheLivewire67 it's still a top 10
@@caseynivans7885 I think that was juts a pun
I used to raid hogger
Does that count?
seriously i never new that the titankeepers beat yogg with his own tactics, playing mindgames with on of the biggest if not the biggest illusionist in Warcraft.
An honorable mention or something should have been made for the Lich King, since he's one of only 2 bosses that actually kill the heroes as part of his fight, or at least he used to before we out scaled it.
Ya nerzhul was badass as the true lich king
I will also like to mention that he goes Ez on us and Azeroth, if Uther is to be believed Arthas humanity is what kept The lich king and the scourge from consuming Azeroth all life.
If it wasnt for him to die Azeroth will be dead 😂
Man i really wish there is an alternate timeline where all life bows to the lich king
@@darkwhispersstories47 Likly world wouldve fallen under his control if he won against the raid/champions.
But are beings on azeroth that are stronger ( by alot) then the lich king. Like azshara,Leishen,the old gods
And others could still win and kill arthas like titan keepers or elemental lords,or aspects +deathwing might not be guranteed wins but its certainly possible they could win.
Also the tolvir got reorgination device in uldum which is acviated fully would wipe out the socurge completly
@@darkwhispersstories47 Arthas already lost his humanity when he banish nerzhul
Every time I go into nyalotha I think of spongebob...that's not the worm...that's his tongue.
as far as I understood discussions in game (I think it was mother who says it after you kill N'zoth) that all Old god signatures have been cleansed.
meaning C'thun and Yogg are dead.
Of course, thise might mean "outside of their prisons" but I don't know.
I don't think we'll ever top the lore power level of our characters in Legion. Like seriously, we had god killing weapons and in the final raid we had trinkets explicitly empowered by the Titans to make us into Titanslayers.
Archimonde/KJ should be just below the Titans
Saying the they didn't have feats is terribly misinformed. You know KJ literally assimilated every race into the burning Legion
KJ is the supreme commander of the strongest army of the lore and the greatest aracnist ( along with Velen ) in the cosmos below a single elemental lord? WTF man
I agree that they should probably be closer to or above the Elemental Lords but saying "just below" the Titans is delusional. Aman'Thul pulled out Y'Shaarj from Azeroth with little effort. He could probably kill Kil'Jaedan by just breathing on him.
@@MolmorJS yes that's what I said , they should be below the Titans. Aman'thul being their leader makes him above the duo 😃
Honestly, the power level differences between Archimonde, Kil'jaeden, Azshara, Medivh / Aegwynn, and Deathwing (possibly also Lei Shen) I think are very small and I'd have a hard time picking a winner. I would say that Azshara is 100% without a doubt as powerful as Archimonde or Kil'jaeden seeing as Manny himself stated that she was on par with them back when she was still a Night Elf before being empowered by N'zoth. Medivh / Aegwynn are guardians that I would say are on equal power levels, and Aegwynn solo'd the Avatar of Sargeras while Medivh struck fear into the heart of Deathwing. Lei Shen is up there because he stole the power of Aman'thul and Ra-den and was such a massive threat that the Forge of Origination was used to kill him. The weirdest character to determine in terms of power level is Deathwing, as I feel like he received a massive boost in his power once Cata came out with the Cata lore. In the older books, there is a part where Deathwing gets into a fight with Gruul (not a character that is particularly powerful, maybe on par with Manny or Magtheridon) and Khadgar and quite frankly lost the battle pretty hard, whereas in Cataclysm he was a bigger threat than perhaps even his master N'zoth and could literally nuke the entire planet with one spell.
Deathwing was only as strong as he was in Cata because he was getting a massive amp from N'Zoth.
In the end im always thinking, it dosnt matter how strong they are, we stomp them anyway sooner or later for weekly loot
The Sha are technically the remnants of Y'Sharjj so... if, magically, you were able to put them all back together with his heart... you could resurrect Y'Sharjj
Well, there is still posibility that all the Sha can be still alive since you can't kill an emotion, but dunno about that
1:57 Oh, so not the number 10 spot, the number 1 spot, thanks for watching
I think Deathwing was more powerful than the Old Gods in terms of raw strength.
If you were to pit the corrupted Deathwing against any of the weakened Old Gods (since that's how we face them in game), Deathwing would certainly be the one to come out on top.
The core strength of the Old Gods lie in their ability to attack the mind, whittling down your sanity and such. I think people tend to forget just how firm Neltharion's will once was. You have to remember that Deathwing only became their minion after millennia of being exposed to their corruption.
yeah i agree, i do still believe if they were to "fight" deathwing would lose, because the old gods would just manipulate them (ik they were controlling him) but even if they werent they would definitely be able to control him
Deathwing only was that powerful because he was getting power directly from N'zoth. Almost everything Deathwing did during Cataclysm was him using N'zoth's power.
Deathwing wouldn't compare even to N'zoth ( the physically weakest ) in terms of raw strength, the old gods span literal kingdoms, their tentacles would be far larger than Neltharion himself. He's just a super-charged dragon you can't compare him with eldritch cosmic horrors hundreds of times his size.. sure he can probably win against the avatars players get to fight but if one of them suddenly surfaced he'd just get slapped out of the sky.. it's like comparing an old god with a titan.. the strongest of them just got ripped off the planet and flung into the cosmos like it was just a weed..
bingo!
i always had kil'jaeden and archimonde on high regard as super powerful beings, i feel dissapointed XD
This list doesn't give justice to archimonde or kiljaeden. They are powerful draenai buffed by sargeras, and the strength they get from sargeras is questionable
@@Fishbro sadly the retcons from blizzard has thrown power lvls all over the place
Hell yeah Hiru! Get that ad revenue! Good on you man.
A normal warlock is a planet buster tho, there is a difference between destructive capabilities and attack potency.
Ner'zul destroyed dreanor just by creating portals Nd not specifically trying to destroy it, he became way more powerful as the lich king with the jailer buff and kill'jeaden buff, just the helm is at least star level and arthas as the lich king is arround multi star/solar system, as the jailer is a multygalaxy + level being.
Id actually put Arthas and Archimonde and Kill'jeaden above the old gods. With arthas scaling up to > above KJ and Arch.
I would love a video about strongest Dungeon bosses based on lore too
I loved "Argus is a baby titan
Where's Guldaan? lore wise he was a match for even Kadgar.
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Ultraxxion? He was a planet buster.
Guys anyone knows the music playing during Aggramar?
I thought the water Elemental Lord was the strongest Elemental Lord.
Is this from the game or actual lore? Like are you taking into consideration the DND books or anything?
What would the list look like if non-raid boss enemies were included?
Sargeras, even with his broken sword he would beat any ass. Sargeras was the champion of the pantheon and his assist which was lower ranked than sargeras was argrammar . The pantheon ordered Sargeras to clear out the demons until he started to believe that there cant be any "peace" in the universe, felt in depresseion, got corrupted after defeating Nathrezhim. His "rightful" blade/sword splitted in two after the blade saw that he got mad, the blade diddnt wanted to serve sargeras anymore, so he only could took the other part of the blade to use it, gorribal was the used blade from now on, he left the blade Telshalach behind bcs its useless for him , since than, agrammar, his old novice found Telshalach and obtained it, became the "new" champion of the pantheon since Sargeras left. Sadly there was any Source on azeroth that were powerful enough to hold sargeras summoning. FunFact: Sargeras gave illidans his "new" eyes and everything that illidan can see, can also sargeras see. His story as a whole is insane, you should watch it up.
ok but have you fought weaponmaster harlan?
What about sageras?
what about algalon, the observer? where would he fall?
A list of the most powerful artifact weapons and even possibly legendary items in general could be a interesting list.
I agree, I haven’t delved into the lore of the artifacts and I’m wondering just how strong they might be if they’re considered the most powerful weapons in existence
Yes! please do these videos!! 😊
+1
I like this idea
100% the scepter of sargeras for destruction warlocks would be the strongest.
It literally tore apart draenor itself
Rachel still killing it with the artwork
Who's rachel
His girl?
@@KAMZA. Bams Girl
@@KAMZA. She's the artist that draws all the pictures you see
How does Eonar not make the list?
Should make a top 10 “How are these raid bosses” list.
Number 1: The big fire doggo from molten core. He is just a damn old flame hound, like how even is he a boss in the raid? He basicaly has the same presence in lore like a random midle of the dungeon boss from wotlk
Yo the fact that you split the video into sections with some new youtube feature is so cool. Love it.
N'zoth may have been weaker than his siblings. But lets remember that through sheer wit alone he was able to best C'thun and Yog Saron both in battle when the Old Gods warred with eachother after they established the Black Empire.
The power off being the you gest sibling
i really like that nzoth isn’t the strongest old god in terms of power alone, but his smarts and wits are so strong that he can still best his siblings. i love characters that aren’t the most physically strong but are very very clever.
I’m surprised to not see Algalon in the list.
While is it difficult to know how powerful he can be, he’s probably stronger than the bottom listed bosses.
He was about to destroy all life on the planet
@@eyoshinthemaximum yeah but that was because he was using the forge of origin I don't think he can actually destroy a planet on his own
Come on we all know Hogger, deserves a spot on here.
This is raid boss list, however as a dungeon/quest mob he'd def have the #1 spot on that list :D
Murmur is noted in the readable text as a planet busting elemental lord of sound always wished he had more to him in-game, not a raid boss but had potential to be
SubtleBloodshot he definitely has potential for being a raid boss the dungeon boss was a mere echo of murmur, and it is stated in lore that murmur’s sigh destroyed an entire world
@Brian well to find that out take a bunch of lvl 60s give them bis vanilla loot and summon them into firelands
He’s the reason the entire area around Auchindun is destroyed, his death nearly destroyed Draenor.
I'm pretty sure the elemental Lord's can't die, they just go back to their domain and recharge when they get defeated. Idk if this is true, but it makes sense since rag was in 2 raids.
@@socialpollution4182 if you kill them in there own domain they are suposed to die die aka killing rag in The Firelands ( His Domain)
I agree what number 10 is highly disputed: fallen avatar, Odyn or Helya could have also disputed this spot.
Fallen Avatar was defeated by (essentially) a mortal. We don't really see how powerful Azshara became after becoming a Naga, but I'm pretty sure she's more powerful than Archimonde, Kil'jaden, and probably on par with the Titan Keepers.
@@Kylora2112 Fallen avatar was defeated by THE Guardian, and it was planned that Sargeras would lose to her because he was waiting for the chance to either take over her or if she ever had a child. Which she did, which was Medivh, and used Medivh to do numerous heinous acts in order to take down Azeroth from within. But Sargeras avatar was really just a husk compared to when Aegwynn defeated it. Also I wouldn't call Aegwynn "essentially" a mortal, she prolonged her life and youth for several hundred years using her magic alone.
But Helya is probably more accurate for the number 10 spot since there really is no telling from where she got her powers, which to me, seem Old God inspired.
Also honestly Kil'Jaeden is more powerful than Archimonde, mostly because he was alive for longer and also because he actually never died. Archimonde first passed away at the battle of Hyjal. Kil'Jaeden never died in the sunwell raid, we simply just kicked him back into the portal which he had created.
@@Knallpulverklemp That looks like a good wall of text im lazy to read but you seem to have confused the avatar of sargeras with fallen avatar of sargeras, he got weakened
sargeras should be #1 on this list
sargeras should be #1 on this list
What’s the name of the music at 12:55?
It sounds really nice and I want to go to sleep listening to it lol.
i also would like to know!
The streets of Belgrade - infinity ripple
@@bicballdeity5472 thanks
4:39 - I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that, while Ragnaros is the most destructive, Neptulon is the most powerful elemental lord.
"They were also able to hard counter his fire abilities by basically being immune to it."
Yeah, immunity tends to counter abilities hard.
Remind me of how in pokemon, flying is immune to ground attack...
Because they can fly
@@oxilef8471 but what's interesting is that in fact, a strong enough ground attack could still affect sky creatures, if you collapse a lot of the ground, the Shockwave resulting could affect flying beings, it would then mean that ground attack of huge scale could hit flying creatures. Like a huge earthquake.
You got something wrong when discussing Lei-Shen. After Aman'thul died he passed his powers to Ra-Den which Ra-Den stored away and those were the powers that Lei Shen stole so full power Lei-Shen had the power of a literal Titan, not a Titan keeper which no doubt places him higher. Though the Lei Shen we face isn't nearly that strong
Also the fact that he died of old age cuz literally no one could kill him in his life time
@@jayej3834 Nope, It was revealed in Chronicle one he died invading Uldum and the Tol'Vir Activated the Forge of Origination on him turning Uldum to a desert.
@@wailrimouche1171 also the entire southern half of Kalimdor into a desert up to I think Thousand Needles
@@wailrimouche1171 And even with all that his body was still left intact.
@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly Probably the only reason he didn't rule the entirety of azeroth.
I agree with most except Queen Azshara 100% deserves the spot over Archimonde. You said it yourself, her powers rivaled theirs BEFORE she got a big power boost by N'Zoth.
I disagree with this list. I have played since vanilla, read every book and heavily contributed to wowpedia. This is my list:
1. Argus
2. Aggramar
3. Old Gods
4. Archimonde/Kil’jaeden
5. Azshara
6. Deathwing
7. Odyn
8. Ra den
9. Helya
10. Lei-Shen
The elemental lords are no where near as powerful as you think they are. They are big and imposing but certain powerful mortals can solo them. Titan high keepers like Odyn and Ra den are more powerful.
Also G’huun is not a real old god. He’s just a bit of mutated flesh created from them.
"Also G’huun is not a real old god. He’s just a bit of mutated flesh created from them."
Yea, that's what he says in the video.
@@MrKamex then why he would rank him so highly is anyone’s guess.
the reason why he ranked the elemental lords over any keeper was as he explained it took multiple to beat 1 elemental lord. Seems sound.
I think the strongest being ever faced by the heroes of Azeroth was Murmur, the destroyer of worlds. Although only his echo was summoned and defeated, it destroyed an entire area now known as the bone waste in Outland just by summoning it.
We only ever heard a Murmur, a distant echo of the Cosmic Scream that is lurking somewhere in this universe.
Honestly the "real" form of Murmur would probably be on the level of an Old God if not stronger. The little Lore we have around this being is frightening. The fact that we only fight a fraction of its Power adds to that.
@@Y0G0FU I'm thinking it could be far more powerful considering that it consumes worlds and is the strongest elemental in existence. The void lords would need to send an army such as multiple old gods and their minions to destroy a world, while Murmur can do it on his own. I'm thinking that Murmur could be on the level of a Void Lord or a Titan.
The strongest beings are the gm's guys, comon they come in and out as they please and do whatever they want, lol, gm island, their hideout. :P
Considering Argus is stated to be strong enough to blow up the universe, Murmur is nowhere near him.
I absolutely loved how the video was split up on the time-lapse bar, showing who was up on the top 10 ten list. I haven't really seen this used anywhere else, and it really adds value to the video, in my opinion.
It’s hilarious how just a bunch of stupid weak adds right before Aggramar are lore wise technically stronger then like 70-80% of WoW raid bosses 😂
So Mythrax got Yamchaded.
Yes, I made sure to have the artist draw him in the famous pose as well lol
@@hirumaredx For a second I though you released a new story of bfa video
So in legion, cataclysm, and BFA we fought more than one of the strongest being capable of destroying azeroth, and we still survive.
Argus nearly destroyed all of creation itself in a single spell.
Yaaaay. When i started on this channel, I watched these videos while I was playing wow. Now i try to play while i'm watching this videos. Good work man.
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Bow down before the god of death!
NPCS: Hero come with great haste! We are beset upon by the most fearsome foe to ever exist! It would take armies of the most powerful beings to even combat the this monstrous foe!
Hero: Oh n0es what we do?!
NPCS: IDK just um... grab like 24 random dudes in town and go kill it and like all of its friends in their easily accessible tower filled with minion fodder. Should only take like an hour or two... I'll totally give this ancient artifact of unbridled loling as a reward!
When someone like Malygos, Mimiron or Arthas isnt even mentioned in the comments, you know there are a LOT of powerful raid bosses!
Year late but thats because its a post-retcon/a WOW only, not original Warcraft lore based vid.
The drawings are so cute, yet accurate. i love them!
They're from his series detailing the backstories of various WoW villains. If you haven't seen it, it's definitely worth a watch. The artist did an amazing job, kinda getting this perfect mix of serious artwork, while also slipping in the occasional cute or humorous moment (so it isn't just a non-stop boring history lesson).
The art style seems pretty heavily inspired by overly sarcastic productions. Though they focus on history and writing tropes/stories. Theyre worth a look if you like that type of style of info dumping
I think you overestimate the elemental lord's and ghuun. Archimonde imo should be higher than those 3 and I think Kiljaden should also be ahead of them. Besides that I generally agree
We don't know how many countless planets Archy and Jaden have dominated and that's probably more impressive than being some lesser creations of imprisoned beings
I won't lie when I saw Rag above Archimonde I was skeptical.
Were Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde retconned to be weaker? If not, they have no business being below any of the elemental lords. It's very unclear how strong the avatars of yogg and c'thun are, so whether or not they are more powerful than those is anyone's guess, but since N'zoth wasn't fought as an avatar, he is definitely above both of them
Top 10 strongest artifact weapons lorewise video please.
Literal unquestioned number 1
Destro Lock - Scepter of Sargeras
Literally the scepter of Sargeras, it can tear apart planets with ease, spill oceans onto land at will and was the weapon that turned Draenor into Outland when wielded by Ner'Zhul
Unquestioned number 2
Holy Priest - T'uure
Literally a magical space wind chime on a stick, can bring people back from the literal dead
Holy shit why the fuck did Blizzard give us these? Mix and match them in any order you want
Windwalker Monk - Fist of the Heavens
Raw uncontained Al'Akir juice in your hands
Resto Druids - G'hanir
A branch from the world tree, able to cleanse any type of corruption, even uncleansable corruption
Shadow Priest - Xalatath
Strong enough to be apart of BFA
Resto Shamans - Sharas'dal
Uncorrupted Well of Eternity water
Balance Druids - Scythe of Elune
This scythe is literally how the druids work lol, all their powers, their entire existence and how they did work was all because of this staff.
Arcane Mages - Alune'th
Aegwyn had it and chose it when she went toe to toe against the Scepter of Sargeras
Mistweaver Monks - Shei'lun
Remember how the expansion was called Mists of Pandaria? This staff is single handedly responsible for that and kept an entire continent hidden for seemingly centuries.
Magic weapons that didn't really do much but they probably could have
Blood DK - Maw of the Damned
Magic blood sucking axe
Frost DK - Blades of the Fallen Prince
Pieces of Frostmourne
Feral Druid - Fangs of Ashamane
Wild god teeth
Guardian Druid - Claws of Ursoc
Wild god hands.
Survival Hunters - Talonclaw
Like literally every Wild God ever blessed this thing with a portion of their power lol
Brewmaster Monks - Fu'Zan
Freya (From Ulduar) planted a tree then she grabbed a stick to walk with it, then she gave it to Yu'Lon and Yu'Lon blessed it then Yu'Lon gave it to a monkey
Holy Pallies - Tyr's Hand
Tyr had it when he died.
Ret Pallies - Ashbringer
Magni made a sword that can kill the undead
Ele Shamans - Fist of Ra'den
Ra'den had some really cool weapons but then he lost them and Xuen found them and decided to hold on to them because they were cool
Affliction Locks - Uthalesh
Sargeras made a scythe that could suck souls then gave it to a lady that killed the Deadwind Pass then she died
Demo locks - Thal'kiel
The guy who taught Archimonde everything he knows was killed by Archimonde then his skull was used to empower summoning stuff
Weapons wielded by really cool people, maybe some magic, maybe not, not enough to be a magic weapon
Unholy DK - Apocalypse
Dreadlords made it and I guess they never used it because there's like no info on what this sword actually does
Havoc DH - Twinblades
Just some blades that some demon hunter had
Vengeance DH - Aldrachi Warblades
A race called the Aldrachi got wiped out by the Legion but the last surviving guy killed a lot of demons with these weapons so the Legion grabbed them.
BM Hunters - Titanstrike
Mimiron made a really cool gun
MM Hunters - Thas'dorah
Alleria had it before she went bye bye
Fire Mages - Felo'Malorn
Kael'Thas had it and he used it when he got his ass kicked by Arthas then he dropped it
Frost Mages - Ebonchill
Some cool mage guy used it.
Prot Pallies - Truthguard
Some Vrykul had it and covered Archaedus and Tyr's escape when they stole the Discs of Norgannon
Disc Priest - Light's Wrath
The Scarlet Crusade tried and failed to make the Ashbringer 2 electric boogaloo and it exploded
Assassin Rogue - Kingslayers
Gul'dan made some daggers so Garona could kill King Llane
Outlaw Rogues - The Dreadblades
Some pirate had them
Sub Rogues - Fangs of the Devourer
Sargeras had a puppy that he really liked but then his dog died so he turned his teeth into daggers.
Enh Shamans - Doomhammer
Thrall's really cool weapon
Arms Warrior - Strom'kar
A sword that can kill trolls through they regeneration ability but then Warriors learned Mortal Strike and they didn't really need the sword anymore
Fury Warrior - Swords of the Vala'jar
A guy who really liked Odyn tried to kill Helya when she imprisoned him but he died and Helya kept his swords.
Prot Warriors - Scale of the Earthwarder
Deathwing lost a scale and a guy made a shield out of it
And the actual real strongest artifact weapon
Fishermen - Underlight Angler
It's made of magic murloc and we didn't have to use it to destroy the sword so it's way better than all these useless paperweights up there.
@@Evan-mt7bc Ok.
@@Evan-mt7bc
Good list, but I feel the need to defend havoc demon hunters and frost mages a bit. The havoc artifact was created by Kil'jaeden so that gives them a little more prestige than just being weapons used by a powerful demon hunter. And Ebonchill was used by Alodi, the first Guardian of Tirisfal, so in theory it could be compared to Aluneth or Atiesh.
Evan the alrachi who wielded the warblades was one of 2 mortals to burst sargeras so the warblades are probaly very powerful
Note: deathwing "destroyed" the planet by hand, not just because he rose up from deepholme in a very violent way
He was also the Earth Aspect. It was kind of his home field.
@@nevermore7285 5:18 - 5:22 just pointed out that what he said was extremely exaggerated.
I still argue that Azshara was the most powerful mortal to ever have lived, even before the Sundering and even before the Legion's first invasion of Azeroth. She lived her life right next to the Well of Eternity (a direct font of Azeroth's Titanic power) and drank power from it all her life (then ageless, thanks to the Aspect-blessed world tree granting all Night Elves immortality from death by old age).
Then she got bored and opened universe-spanning communication with the Burning Legion in a bid for _even more_ power, as well as opening a cross-universe portal by herself to bring the Legion to Azeroth. After she got more power from the Legion, she also got _even more power again_ from N'zoth when the Sundering happened, and then an additional 10,000 years since then to modern day WoW to accumulate even more power and magical expertise.
She was also able to shatter the Tidestone of Golganneth, a Titan-created world-shaping artifact, solo.
Her Warbringer short even shows just how much power she had before N'zoth, when she creates and maintains (even if only for a short time) a city-wide barrier holding back the entire ocean mid-Sundering alone, in an effort to protect her people.
Aren't night elves immortal?
I'm abit confused about Azshara. In War of the ancients book, it was only stated that the night elves revered her and that she was indeed powerful, and Mannoroth was concerned about not angering her, but there was no mention of her rivalring Archimonde Also, I found no Lore reason why she should be SO much more powerful than the other high born, she was just a normal, but kinda powerful mage, no way guardian level.
But she did basically nothing herself. No idea how much that is still canon, though.
@@Bliss467 After the second Well of Eternity (Nordrassil in Hyjal) was destroyed by Archimonde the night elves lost their immortality, and even when they made a new world tree, Teldrassil was not blessed by Nozdormu, so they never got it back.
It's not however clear of Nordrassil is fully healed yet......it's also not quite clear how the night elves initially got their imortality, either via the FIrst Well or via some direct blessing from dragon aspects or Titans.
@@Bliss467 not anymore
Queen Azshara is not dead btw. after we released her from Xa'nesh, she dissapeared to somewhere else.
I'm surprised Algalon the Observer didn't make the list.
same here... cause he has some kind of "Nuke Everything and Reboot from beginning of all existence"-Button. And you can say whatever you want... but a resett for EVEYTHING that can't even be denied by the powers of even a Voidlord or something is more powerfull than anything ^^ Cause resett for everything means for me... EVERYTHING is NOTHING And beginns right from the Beginning of all existence and maybe will never be again cause existence maybe goes another way this time...
@@faol4n654 it didn't reset everything. It resetted azeroth and that 'button' was in ulduar.
VIDEO SPOILER
The Story of Argus still gives me the big sad.
I don't agree with Nzoth being the weakest even if it is what it is said generally in the lore. For me Nzoth is the best of all old gods we have encountered and based on all the events in lore he was behind from the start it is impossible to be the weakest. His Patch and Nyalotha stuff and ending was a GIGANTIC FINGER TOWARD players and lore.
Was that confirmed bye Blizzard that Yogg Saron created the Nightmare ? I though it was Nzoth too that corrupted the Emerald Dream as Xavius was his minion.
All that we know is what Xal'Atath says
Archimonde and Kil'jaeden are planet reckers also (WOD Boss journal When Archimonde reaches 25% health remaining, he summons a massive meteor to destroy Draenor.)
Correction, yogg opened the way into the enrakd dream but it was nzoth that actually created the nightmare
Dafuq is the enrakd dream?
@@birb7866 emerald?
Not fully true, emerald nightmare is actually combination effort of all 3 old gods.
But first idea is by Yogsarron when he accidentally get contact with the world tree Vadrassil.
@@chamathnadeeshan4008 I dont remember C'thun ever being involved with it
I would argue that the Old Gods themselves are not actually very powerful at all, albeit still incredibly dangerous. Their "power" comes from the ability to corrupt and control other extremely powerful beings, up to and including nascent titans, which in itself does not increase their own strength. They are just puppet-masters, not all that powerful individually. They need to play the long game in order to turn enemies against themselves, using *their* power as a weapon of their own. In a 1 on 1 encounter, without the delay caused by their minions allowing time to influence and corrupt their attacker, any individual Old God would probably be fairly easy to defeat.
I would place Deathwing at #4 on this list (ahead of the Old Gods, obviously), for all the reason you gave, including because the source of his was given to him by Khaz'goroth, giving him vast power over the planet itself, some additional level of power given by the Old Gods (mentioned in Dawn of the Aspects), as well as (SPECULATION) an amount of power coming from his extended exposure to Azerite. Being the Earth-Warder, he would have been in proximity to Azerite, as Gallywix explained that even before Sargeras plunged his sword into Azeroth there were still pockets of Azerite in the deep earth, Deathwing's domain.
But #3 on my list was one you did not mention (Possibly because he's technically a dungeon boss, not a raid boss) is Murozond. Still having the full powers given to him by Aman'Thul, the Highfather of the Pantheon of Titans, and without regard to maintaining the sanctity of time. I would argue that control over time is the most powerful ability the Titans gave the aspects, being able to travel through the timewaves to alter past actions, I should have been near impossible to defeat him, unless you too had control over time (or a big sad bronze boy's help), because he could simply travel back to your birth and kill you there. What makes him so powerful is his disregard for maintaining the timelines, allowing him to alter anything that doesn't suit his desires, and without the direct aid of Nozdormu, or a titan, Murozond would be able to defeat any other being on Azeroth. Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey cheating powers.
I would say that the Old Gods themselves are actullay very powerful in brute strength as well. The reason why old gods are mainly puppet masters is due to the fact that they were pretty much always locked up and couldn't use their brute force. Once an old god is no longer locked up, they can use incredibly strong raw power, strong enough to destroy an entire world I'd say. Their goal is never to just destroy a world though, the void's goal has always been coruption. The old gods aren't just going to blow everything up, they're going to corrupt it or die trying. Also I'd say that manipulation power is valuable enough to land you a spot on a strongest raid bosses list anyways. Raw physical power isn't everything. It's not like all of the old god's manipulation takes years either, some of it is just powerful instant manipulation. They can just walk up to you and mind control you or make you go insane as they do for raid mechanics. The old gods don't want to blow up azeroth (Death wing almost did tho so idk if they were gonna stop him at some point or what was going on there, maybe they already knew the heros would win?), especially due to azeroth holding a titan (one of the strongest apparently) that they could corrupt. If the old gods did want to blow up azeroth, it would've happened when they were all on azeroth and already controlling it for the most part. When you're playing chess, the objective isn't to flip the table and destroy the chess board even though you can easily do so, it's to win the game of chess lol. They've never been playing a game of brute strength even though they clearly have brute strength. The old gods will literally die just to win their game of chess. They'll leave the heros thinking that they've defeated all the corruption when in reality their death was just a distraction for a checkmate.
@@Sunny-zf1cm What makes you think they have the power to destroy the planet though? They've never demonstrated anything like that.
The Old God fights in game have all consisted of minions, manipulations, and barriers, ment to extend the fight as long as possible in order to corrupt you. But once you get past those and it's just you alone with them, they tend to just fall over. If they were on their own from the start, it wouldn't be much of a contest between us and them.
Remember that the keepers (Most of whom we've defeated ourselves), were able to overcome the fully empowered Old Gods AND their fully stocked up armies, all while being careful not to actually kill them. The Old Gods are the parasite minions of the Void Lords, spewed out probably by the billions in order to infect as many planets as possible; They're not the big bads.
Think about it this way: The Old Gods on their own are best represented by the final stages of each of their raid fights. Their power unshackled can be overcome by a few keepers. Now imagine the fight between that, and Deathwing, who we had to shoot twice with the twice empowered Demon Soul, throw him into the maelstrom, sacrifice all the other Aspect's powers, and were still barely able to defeat him.
There's no question in my mind that in a 1v1 Deathwing wrecks every Old God FAR before they could ever manipulate him.
Red shirt guy, is all knowing.. therfore he is the strongest
I thought that Rag was the second strongest after Neptune, and that the old gods were more powerful then Titans 1 on 1
Lots of lore was retconned over the years. I think years ago it was said that the Old Gods were powerful enough to even make Sargeras quiver in fear, but later they made it so that mere Titan Keepers can defeat and imprison them.
I'd argue that in terms of WoW bosses, Archimonde shouldn't be #10 but actually should be Algalon the Observer. While we don't know much of the beings called the Constellar, we know that Algalon single-handedly had the power of the cosmos, able to create black holes as well as stars and rend time and space as we know it. We also know that if we did not stop Algalon, he had the power to, on his own, send Reply Code: Omega which signaled to the Titans that the world required a complete restart.
- Also, instead of Archimonde, there is a flurry of other titan keepers that you fight in Ulduar, to the point that if you wanted to fully and accurately create this list, half the list would be Ulduar due to the presence of Thorim, Freya, Mimiron and Hodir. All of which I'd argue are much more powerful than Archimonde due to their feats against the Old Gods.
Those weren't enimes tho. You stop algolon from blowing up the world which he was only going to do because of yog and he's an optional boss. The other keepers are just slightly corrupt. You save them. And they help you.
Plus ontop of that there is very little lore on Angolan
Titan keepers are golems empowered by Titans, Archimond is an Erdar empowered by a Corrupted, more powerful titan. I'd say they should be on par or slightly below him.
So, on legion for the warrior class hall, hodir gets taken and corrupted by the legion, Legion > titan keepers
The Jailer is a titan at full strength, so when we face him we're expected to be more powerful then we were in legion
IF we face him which will suck given how we didn't get to fight Sargeras. And before anyone suggests there's no way we could have, they could have made something like the titan avatars empowered us and made us all demi gods during the fight against Sargeras, but whatever.
Blizzard retcon the old gods again... after the death of n’zoth. The old god avatars are no longer avatars and we for sure killed them, and they made it sound like they went back to the void so we could see them again one day.
By confirming they were merely manufactured tumors, and that there were millions of them across the universe, they needed to get rid of them by killing them off for good. They are just not as threatening now as they were before that retcon
Hopefully the Void Lords are as good
Juan El Risitas Joya Why aren’t they threatening? They have the potential to trigger the doomsday of the universe.
But Yogg'Saron is still causing shit to occur? Like in the prepatch for BFA with Magni in Ulduar, we see that it's making a resurgence and causing trouble.
Nzoth was in his full form , chtun and yogg saron were only fragments of their real body. I think those 2 aint even dead yet
Jan Terri Because they’re just creations of much more powerful beings
Titan Keepers aren’t nearly as threatening as Titans themselves
entertaining vid but instantly stopped taking it seriously when he put al'akir above archimonde/kil'jaeden
The red border made me think I had already watched it though I hadn't
What about that level 120+ elite pug that runs around in Stormwind Castle?
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How are the elemental lords stronger than archimonde and kil'jaeden? I find that hard to believe.
Azshara definitely belongs on this list somewhere in the middle I would think. It's stated in lore that when Mannoroth grabbed her he felt a "whisper" of her true power (I think that's how it's stated but it's been a while) and felt fear, fear he had only known of one other being, Sargeras. Since Mannoroth is said to be on a level with Archimonde and Kil'jaeden, being one of Sargeras' 3 EQUALLY POWERFUL lieutenants, and that was BEFORE she was infused with old god juice, i would say that at the very least she belongs above Kil'jaeden.
Azshara cant beat kil'jaeden...
@@Nzothf12 Quiet, you! I have had enough of your scurrilous whispers. No one listens to your lies anymore. Don't make me get out the heart of Azeroth and tell Mother to aim her beam at you again!
@@kopitarrules hahahahh
you will never be rid of me azeroth will be mine
THANK YOU! This list is dubious, at best.
There's no way Archie is bihind the elemental lords in power, he is nearly planet buster. Also forgot kil'jaeden
The titans are actually the most powerful beings in the universe - not the void lords! That's why they need to corrupt a titan in order to even do something. It's actually a DARK TITAN (NOT the void lords who corrupted him) who would be the most powerful being in existence - even Sargeras would be afraid of him. The void lords are just the "corruptors" with no real power in our universe.
You are wrong. Chapter 1 from chronicles gives us all the info we need to place the void lords higher in power then the titans. They cannot physically manifest in our universe but they can corrupt the beings from this universe.
@@TheVrabye How powerful the void lords are in comparison to the titans is unknown. They were described as being envious of the titans' power. - official lore
It’s funny seeing most people saying that Arthas should’ve been on the list and their only argument is “he’s the only one who defeated the players”, even though the video clearly says Top 10 Strongest Raid Bosses BASED ON LORE.
You forgot to add some things about argus he's actually way stronger then you think. His abilities are incredibly powerful . His normal abilities are described cleaving the fabric of reality thats some gogeta vs broly level ability. He survived a powerful blast from aman'thul who used the power of time to blast him into dust only to come back and kill us all (implying 4rth dimensional level of power?) And perhaps the greatest feat in all of wow to date is that he had the power to destroy all if creation and kill every1 and everything which puts at universal + level of power cause the warcraft universe in some cases is described as infinite and has many dimensions ontop of that. All that and he's being drained of his powers for thousands of years. I do believe that if he was at full power he could slap all the other titans no difficulty
@Hydra what do you mean young and foolish ? He was being tortured for thousands of years and he was driven almost isnane because of it. Despire being tortured while not even being a full titan all this time he still possesed all this power to accomplish such feats. Argus by far stomps all the titans combined with no difficulty if he was a normal titan and not this weakened and drained
Man, there is a reason we never actually fought sargeras... He would trump all of the other bosses by a long shot. The fact that destro warlocks were able to control his scepter is crazy. Honestly, we should have only had to sacrifice that single weapon to neutralize the sword, considering both weapons were made for sargeras.
Yeah, the most powerful of the old gods is currently dead because he yanked it out of azeroth and just murdered it. It's dead dead
I think Illidan could be on this list. In your strongest faction leader video you said that they had to be a faction leader and their measure of power was taken from when they were the strongest regardless of if they were the faction leader while they were most powerful. If that's the same in this video, Illidan wasn't as powerful when he was the final boss in black temple but now after he's killed a na'aru and is Sargeras' jailer (a fallen titan that was capable of killing the other titans and cleaved a planet in half). He siphons the power of demons getting stronger after every one he kills. Getting into speculation territory, I think now as Sargeras' jailer he can siphon Sargeras' power basically infinitely as he regains strength from the twisting nether.
Illidan could be high on this list if not the top. Of course if he only counts as his appearance in black temple he wouldn't be on the list. Either way I enjoyed the video. Side note it would be cool if Illidan with Sargeras' power added to his pulls the sword from silithus to heal the wound.
Archimonde should have been number 4, you fucked up..
I always felt like one of C’Thun’s whispers should have been “You…Have…. No Friends.”
Can’t wait for The Jailer to join the top 3, since that seems reasonable.
Won't be canon though since he was just made up on the spot during Legion with no real backstory until mid BFA. It's obvious the main storywriters at Activizzard just pulled the idea out of their asses like Disney did with Snoke in the Star Wars sequels
I feel like Algalon should be at least on this least, and probably ahead of Rag.
Algalon must have been something between the Titan Keepers and the Old Gods.
Algalon is really hard to place since his power to destroy the planet was just in activating a device. And Argus uses a bunch of Planetars in his fights as adds, so there's no real feats of strength to fall back on.
He also wasn't really a boss. He was optional. Little lore. And he was sent to reset azeroth with titan equipment.
@@alexandervollhardt1110 Optional is still a boss.
Dreadlord Jaina is the most powerful being in existence, we couldn't possibly defeat her and is why we have never turned on her
She has the special passive ability of plot armor to not be able to go down under 1000 health
Where do people get that it was a power boost from him. Now more than ever I’m convinced he simply saved her and her people. Nothing said in lore it was more than a physical transformation. She was also on full well power when she was as strong as those 2. After the sundering she was weak.
Who is she and who is him, need to specify when commenting about something
fereredorn nzoth and azshara. The only case it applies here
nzoth fully awake from prision.. was counter by a mantle made by 1 baby dragon xD but yog saron.. can destroy ur mind just by looking at him.. and it was a little fragment of him that scape prision.. so you can imagine how morbidly powerfull yog is.. if he goes full madness mode you cant even stand in front of him.. the dude corrupted TITAN FORGEs.. those guys almost dont have emotions.. they are machines.. and the dude created the emotions and flesh on them in order to corrupt them.. how powerfull must be to transform his enemies and also made them kill each other until only 1 fragment of him scape and start conflicts in 1 continent..
i refuse to believe he is dead.. he must be playing death
"we could never fight a Titan without the help of other titans.* Meanwhile we are almost certainly heading towards fighting another titan. Most likely without the help of any other titans. And without the help of artifact weapons (though who knows what Midnight and The Last Titan will bring for borrowed power.)
GJ not putting Arthas on there. People overrate him alot.
How abaout Algalon? Isn't he able to just set a Programm to reset like... Everything? Including our entire Universe and Reality... including the Titans and Everything ever existed? Or did I Remeber it a bit to much? Cause if Algalon has the Power to destroy EVERYTHING and restart it in this case he is even more powerfull than the Voidlords, cause he even can destroy them and starts complete existence from the beginning and maybe this time it will happen without the Voidlords... sooooo.... maybe him on Place 1?
Like Star Wars, even though N'Zoth's conclusion was kinda half assed, we can consider BFA the official canonical ending to WoW like Return of the Jedi or Mandalorian (depending on how that series finale goes) is for Star Wars, and just not consider Shadowlands lore canon like SW fans do with the sequels, so even if the Jailer, like Snoke, a character just made the fuck up out of no where during Legion, ends up being the lorewise strongest than all the other bosses on this list when he becomes the final boss in 9.3+, idk about everyone else but I won't consider it canon.
Sargeras be like: "ok".
Also Deathwing is much more powerful than the old gods. HE got power of Earth aspect and is the strongest of them(which is part of a Titan's power). He also powered himself with others aspects powers. And he literally is the only one who changed the Azeroth as it is just by flying by. Also killing everything with a single breath. And it took an artifact of all aspects powers + all aspects + their powers + his own powers in the disc + heroes in order to kill him. When he turned evil while being harmed by it, he singlehandedly defeated both the Legion and the Dragons.
Coming back from this... yeah Jailer is easily more powerful than any of these beings, probably not Combined, but the dude literally controls the MAW, an almost inescapable hell hole that could've collapsed a good chunk of the universe, and is virtually omniscent in the Maw itself. He was so powerful he put the(forgive me but I don't recall her name, what the People of Oribos worship) to sleep and it took the player to reawaken her.
It doesn’t make sense that only the jailer is stronger then a titan. I would think/intuit that all of the faction leaders are stronger then the Titans in the SL....
Idk though because they still need to continue the game after the SL.....and seeing as the void lords only rivals are the Titans......
Argghhhh Blizzard really royally fucked their lore in the ass HARD‼️‼️‼️💯💯🖤
You mention void lords being more powerful than Titans, and didn't we fight Entropius when M'uru died? Yeah he was weakened but if the same logic applies to Yogg, he should be #1 on this list. "Only the most powerful of the void lords can actually manifest in the physical universe, weakened, and only for limited amounts of time, for their energies quickly seep into nothingness."
I'm kinda late to find this video, but i think you've miss someone insanely important of the lore of azeroth, probably stronger than the old gods.
If we look at the lore, Algalon is supposed to be stronger than the titan keepers, he's in charge of monitoring azeroth, he's not part of the keepers, he's another kind race, which isn't even a titan one, the constellars.
We don't even know if algalon was created by the titans or is part of the ultra powerful "Constellar" race found in our universe. the lore says *Their leader Aman'Thul called upon the constellar*, which mean to me he didn't created them, but simply found this race and asked them to work for the titans. There are only one of a kind, placed on each planets the titans are monitoring, and they are task to reset the planets (that are baby titans, let's remember that) if things go wrong. i actually wouldn't even be shocked to learn that he's stronger than the old gods, seen he wasn't affected by Yogg at all after all theses year, right next to his body. We can also remember that yogg didn't send the titan keepers to attack algalon at all, which seem to put him in the list for the strongers entity on the planet.
We can also look at the fact that the most corrupted keeper, Loken, which is completely crazy by the end wrath wouldn't even try to attack algalon. Loken is trying anything he can to protect his secrets, the lore showed it, he's even trying to destroy the other titan keepers and the tools of that the titan gave them, yet he hasn't tried once to attack algalon. he's obviously aware of him, algalon is the supervisor of the keeper, he's the direct supervisor of loken, yet he tries nothing, which proves to me he's weaker than him.
it's obvious algalon will one day find the corruption, loken, even with all his power, can't hide it forever, and he's the one that can reset the planet, killing the old gods, the new masters of Loken AND the keepers. That's something loken and the old gods wouldn't want at all and killing algalon would be the only way to prevent azeroth from being reset if not for the determination showed by the weaker races of azeroth (damn algalon is so nice to let us live, he's got a little beating heart that love tiny beings that want to save their planets, even thoses damn gnomes). There's also another theory that could explain why they don't touch algalon at all, or at least can't, but i think it's false, since the old god corruption didn't affected algalon when he was right next to an old god. With that theory, We could think that even if he was weaker than loken, if loken tries to kill him, the battle would simply end with algalon activating the reset of azeroth immediatly while holding loken, and nothing else. in the end, algalon can't be touched by loken, even if he was stronger, since algalon will be strong enough to fight him for a long time, and the reset of the planet would be activated before algalon dies.
I genuinely think algalon is stronger than the keeper, the constellars seem to be the closest things to titans, being their direct messengers and a race that was here when the titan awoken from their slumbers (and just the name is an obivous reference to our reality, constellation and planets are binded together. A constellation is a bunch of planets, we immediatly think about the objectives of the race of alagalon, the constellars watch over the planets until they reach their titan form.)
just for a bit more lore, it is said *Its primary function is to monitor Azeroth for any signs of corruption and, in the event of the death of the appointed Prime Designate* (here, it's talking about loken when he wasn't corrupted)*, proceed to conduct an analysis of the planet for the presence of systemic corruption in which he would re-originate the planet, bringing about the end of all life on Azeroth.*
Algalon said himself *I have seen worlds bathed in the Makers' flames, their denizens fading without so much as a whimper. Entire planetary systems born and razed in the time that it takes your mortal hearts to beat once. Yet all throughout, my own heart devoid of emotion... of empathy.
I. Have. Felt. Nothing. A million-million lives wasted. Had they all held within them your tenacity? Had they all loved life as you do?*
It can possibly say two thing. Either algalon was shown by the titans what his task was and how world ends when he activate the kill-switch. OR, and it's probably what actually happened, it mean that Algalon himself destroyed multiple worlds that were corrupted by old gods before (or at least similar creature that are as strong, since they destroyed the keepers of the other planets and corrupted it beyond saving), yet, he's still here, alive and checking on azeroth, in a room completely clean, where nobody tried to enter.
Algalon is the last line of defense in the absence of the titans, he's the messenger, i can't think of a stronger entity on azeroth than him. And if his raw power is maybe not insane (i still think he's insanely strong. he kills the players like ants if we think about it, if you don't show your determination fast enough, he just kill everyone and reset the planet xD, not even the keepers can do this.) , he's got complete power over azeroth itself.
I'm also actually kinda sad to see that Blizzard completely forgot about him. he's alive, and a ultra powerful entity. since he doesn't want to destroy azeroth anymore, he should fight, or at least train the players to help them remove the existing corruption from azeroth...
we could also think that, as the last line of defense, it's better to wait and check every now and then in case the players fail to remove the corruption, to not put himself in danger and to always be able to have the strenght to reset azeroth at any time.
Dude?!? Millhouse Manastorm in Stonecore?!
Can we do one like this with Alliance and Horde?
I Think this list Would be beter if all Old gods would be puted on one spot no nearly 6. There are many more powerful creaturess in game that ppl do not remeber so clearly as those Old gods and Titans
The matter of the list is being an ingame boss the players fight.
Otherwise Sargeras would top The list easily as he's the most powerful titan and even wants to take on the void lords who're considered to be as powerful as the Titans if not above them.
Old gods are just puppets compared to the Void lords