“he has prepared every spell he knows, he can cast any spell that exists at will whenever he wants” pff, big deal, so can everyone who plays a spellcaster for the first time and didn’t read the rules
hehehe, um you mean any wizard, warlock, cleric, druid, (and maybe bards idk) and most of the half casters (ranger, pally and whatever else is a half caster.) However sorcerers are and have always been a spontaneous caster they don't prepare spells at all. The pull from their pool of spells know whatever spell is needed at the time. 5E makes this even better cause they can take a level 1 spell and cast it at level 4 and enhance it with meta-magic. If you read through their spell casting rules you will not find a rule on their preparation of spells for this reason.
@Viktor Magnusson Yeah most of what made sorcerers special in past editions has been given to pretty much every caster class now. Before the Wizard needed to prepare his amount of fireballs or whatever for the day and when he was out of them he was out of them regardless of if he still had slots available. This was wonky so I'm not opposed to it being changed however a wizard can now prepare from his known spells and as long as it's prepared for the day he can cast it as many times as he wants as long as he has slots available that can be used for that spell. Metamagics were supposedly given only to Sorcs now but even that's not true as a lot of caster subclasses give metamagic or even stronger equivalents to their chosen genre of spell. Especially wizards getting very strong and most are always active metamagic like abilities, while also having their near infinite spell options, as well as more casts per day, and getting spells for free, and having the best options in magic items solely for their class. In all honesty Sorcs drew the short straw this edition as they have very little that makes them unique and aside from subclass flare they don't get all that much in the base class.
It's always the wizards you have to be careful of... Well, next to the bards of course: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
@@rewritable_ one can still be paranoid even if someone really is out to get them. it's like phobia, just because the something they are afraid of they SHOULD be afraid of doesn't make it not a phobia. the saying is supposed to be "Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean they aren't really out to get him"
"inferno uses his action to hit you with his claw (rolls dice) he misses" "hell yeah! we can beat him" "he uses his bonus action now" "to run away I bet" "he kills the sun"
Some adventure: "Damn this fight is tough. At least it'll worth it to get this Orb of dragonkind" *Enemy proceeds to use said orb* "Alright group, be rea... what the hell is that thing?!?!" *Tchazzar has joined the server* *Server suffered critical existence failure*
I'm surprised that all of the CR40s are Red Dragons. I thought that there would be at least one of the metallic dragons in the running. Looks like it is canon that the chromatic dragons are winning.
Well not so much, it is more that Red Dragons are more iconic. Though in my head canon the Red Half Dragons are simply more aggressive as as people and expand faster: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
Well I guess the reason is because red dragons and chromatic dragons in general go out of their way to display their power trying to gain worshippers to become gods there are likely a lot of very powerful metallic dragons who are either unknown or have not been named
In old school D&D, good creatures were universally more powerful and more rare than their evil counterparts. It only makes sense to leave a gap for the 'good' players to make a difference. For some reason that has changed in modern D&D. It probably has something to do with it becoming more popular for the player's to be villains--not sure, though.
Dragonborn could defeat him. Dragonborn can defeat any dragon, that's his purpose for existing. essentially the hand of the dragon god, made to keep dragons from crushing other races entirely. If it's a dragon, Dragonborn can defeat it.
@@baneblackguard584 The joke is meant on the fact that they were created and ensalved by them, bruh. EDIT- In other words, you are taking it out of context.
In my world (Created as a hobby, still ongoing) the two thirteenth level spells are "Control" and "Obliterate". Control makes you the DM, Obliterate destroys the multiverse. Literally, if you cast Control, you get all of the files for the world, and if you cast Obliterate, I delete them. The material components for either is a little ball made of the essence of thousands of my equivalent of Greater Deities. The only time either was ever cast was when Perampas Tidak Bijaksana, the first mortal, tore off the hand of Pencipta Yang Bijaksana, the Creator, and used it as the material components for both Obliterate, on Pencipta, and control, on nothingness. That was how magic was created - from the essence of their corpses. Greater Deities in my world are people who embody a single concept entirely. For example, Vallin, the god of death, who can kill anyone instantly with no option for coming back ever. They are granted additional power by the essence of Pencipta and Perampas. You also must be one of these Deities to cast the spells. Not to mention, the orb is contained within a nation that is protected by dozens of these Deities, none of whom would ever cast the spells, nor can they. Because the final qualification to cast them? Every other being in all of existence must agree, as well as all other beings who have ever existed. Perampas and Pencipta were the only two beings when the spells were cast. Pencipta was brainwashed into accepting it. (Yes, the omnipotent Creator of everything was beaten down by Perampas.)
Same! His dragon content inspired me to homebrew a Half Dragon player race: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
@@cheepcheep4499 thatd be amazing. Id love to run a dragon heavy campaign in 5E. Beyond what is offered in hoard of the dragob queen and rise of taimat.
how hard is it to just translate the stats from ADnD and 3/3.5 into 5e terms? Behaviorally and in concept dragons will still be the same regardless of edition. I never played 4th or 5th so I'm talking out of my ass, here, of course.
@@tree_alone it looks very difficult as the way they read are vastly different to me in stats. having never played 3/3.5 or 4 i couldn't say. it might be easier than it seems to me but i honestly have no idea.
To put into perspective a neutorium golem is both a CR 9721, and is a universal level threat, yet Kirby has taken down his fair share of universal threats. So you do the math.
No... Forgotten realms is based on real books by an author. WotC would make higher lvl content if it existed. There are stat blocks for gods avatars in 5e
Sometimes you can just imagine how these monsters were invented at the table: DM: Oh yeah, the dragon can also block everything and cast any spell as a bonus action! player: but what does he want? What does he get out of setting us up? DM: eh... It's a MYSTERY! No one knows.
Tchazzar is the coolest! "Start a rebellion, lead the new kingdom to awesomeness. then leave them mysteriously and have the be like 'woo, hero-god'" I was sad with the whole tiamat attachment though.
Check out the Brotherhood of the Griffin novels if you want to read about his return during the 4e era. Definitely my favorite forgotten realms novels.
I thought inferno was a hybrid child of a red dragon and gold dragon who were killed right after he hatched. And the only ones who know of him are other dragons that help him boost his power so he never has to suffer the loss he did as a hatchling.
A few minor corrections/extra info on Inferno... Inferno is not actually a red dragon, he is a crossbreed between gold and red, which was never meant to happen. There two dragons are the most powerful of the chromatic and metallic dragons and he gained the power of both, although Tiamat personally made sure to have his parents murdered and the rest of the eggs destroyed. Bahamut then later personally came to teach him magic and he has devine based powers. Half his breath weapon deals quasi damage, meaning it's godly and cannot be resisted. He is also known to be one of the best magic users of teleportation and dimension based magic of his time, even impressing elminster when he hear of it. His main lair has over a dozen teleportation based traps that will just remove you from the lair if you don't know how to get through them. Also in his main lair has a lake of melted gold, that he uses illusions to make it look like it is so deep that he can swim in it, but it is actually only a few feet deep and actually teleports the rest of his body to his secret lair in another land... he just uses this to show off to anyone that enters his lair. He also is the first dragon to take adventurers to court for breaking and entering in his lair and wanted them sent to prison for attempted theft... yep... he is also a lawyer dragon...
@@Wyrm7774 (thinks)... jeez, been ages since I looked up his lore... thing there is a page about him in the forgotten realms wiki? But i can't remember now. But yea, he was a super powerful and cool dragon... maybe a little op
He seems like a decent dragon to hang out, like he spend most of his time chilling or being in other land…. Until daddy Bahamut/ mommy timat or who ever power enough/respected call him to do some errands.
I have the draconomicon of the 3rd edition and to be fair I don't see any reference to being a crossbreed. Where did you find those informations? I ask because I am homebrewing a campaign where the villain is inferno.
I can't remember my original source, but if you look up Inferno, Ancient dragon of faerun... maybe great dragon?... epic?... can't remember... but it is from old lore books and some videos
I would love to see more of his Dragon content! He was the one who inspired my Half Dragon player race homebrew: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
@@alexmcclay8152 I know. Anyone can just google whatever he's talking about in his videos, look at the sources and call it a day, but that wouldn't be very interesting
Most powerful weapon in D&D against non-dragons: A fishing rod with an amulet of supremacy on the string. Just toss that amulet on any non-dragon, and....
I'm not that familiar with tabletop rpgs or forgotten realms (beyond having played a 1000 hours of baldurs gate, including all the mods). How the hell do mundane medieval cities like Baldurs gate or waterdeep coexist with nuke level creatures, Archmages, Avatars and evil gods? The world map and various cultures looks too.... normal for how powerful everything is. You would expect there to either be extremely advanced magical empires or a chaotic world.
Maybe they have plenty of bards going around seducing dragons to keep them at bay? www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
a few thousand years before the present day, there used to be floating magical cities and magical items galore. But then they tried, with their unlimited magic, to become godlike and then the goddess of magic fucked them up pretty bad. Now you can't quite get there anymore.
@@MrRhexx Yeah I heard about that. Karsus Avatar right? Funny how most mainstream fantasy settings are essentially post-post-apocalypses (there was once a great world spanning civilization and now it is in ruins). I think the only thing that can really explain the current status quo is a massive ancient secret society which somehow preserves the status quo for some reason. Maybe they discovered something analogous to the reapers and want to keep technology and magic relatively low lest they attract the attention of some kind of cosmic horror. Maybe they gave Karsus the inspiration for his epic-spell, knowing what would happen. Perhaps they social engineered the spellplague. Is it possible to have such far reaching changes to the vanilla setting for tabletop rpgs? I only know cRPGs. Not familiar with how this sort of game works.
Most of the really really strong monsters just want to be left alone and probably wouldn't seek out and attack a major city like Neverwinter or Waterdeep and even if they did they'd be met with great resistance since like 5 CR30+ characters live in Waterdeep, it's probably not worth the effort, even if you are the chosen Tyrant of a dragon god.
I was looking to see if someone else remembered those. There is a lot of stuff in the ELH that is more powerful than anything that he's talked about in these videos about the most powerful monsters in D&D.
They are Psionic masters. When there is Magic Nullifiers all over the place, just bring a Gem Dragon for wild Shenanigans. But if you want to go full Psionic, I choose Palladium System.
@@kevynhansyn2902 for me, psionics could easily be what monks draw on, if you really think about it. It could be a more spiritual mind form of chi. And considering stuff like meditation, levitation by windpower, and mind reading powers primarily come from east and has been a eastern practice, makes you wonder why not call psionics a branch of chi? 🤷♂️🤔🤨 But that's the thing. Divine dragons (which WAS what the gold was called at ons point), which is another word back in the day for metallics, drew on the more celestial/angelic/godly type of magic source, and arcane dragons (aka chromatics) drew on the more primordial/demonic/devilish/(evil)godly type of magic. The gems were just in between and not really one or the other. A true balance between law/order and chaos/mayhem. But the psionics part has been harmed too hard, as well as a bit on the neutral abuse. People thinking they are ALL types of neutral, when really, the are neutral in morals, like metallics are GOOD in morals, and chromatics are BAD in morals, so they aren't neutral like neutral evil or neutral good, but neutral in lawful neutral, and chaotic neutral. But mainly neutral neutral, if you catch my drift.
@@zionthedragon8866 My bad. * Made ME get into a rabbit hole -- as in looking for info on dragon gods and such where one thing leads to another and stuff.
@@MiguelAngelGutierrezRamirez oh. Ok. But I said sardior because he is one of the original 1e dragon gods, WAY before Io was a thing, and all these either grimderp, cringe lolz, mystery saping dragon gods came to play, like hlal, the two wingless drake styled platinum dragons (seriously, there should only be ONE platinum dragon), Null (that's not even a actual god name, that's just lazy writing, and the grimderp name and wannabe edgelord.), Zorquan, and task. ALL those gods are either unnecessary, not needed, poorly executed, fight with certain worlds lore, or just don't make sense and take away from the mystery. Like we don't need task to explain why dragons hoard. The hoarding thing should be a mystery, it adds to the whole idea that dragons may or may NOT have a reason to have the stuff they do. Hlal is your radical extremist sjw who thinks they know what they are talking about but actually have no clue, Tamara and Lendys are just bland original pieces of bahamut's idea of justice. Garyx could easily be absorbed into sardior, for the fire and renewal part (minus the destruction), so no need for garyx anyhow. And finally, Azharul, Kalzareinad, and Kereska are apparently gods of magic, the arcane kind, you know, THE THING MYSTRA CONTROLS?!?! Why would there be a god of magic, when all arcane magic (not counting sorcerers) comes from her? These magic dragons would bring chaos to it, and plus mystra would cuck them, so these magic dragons shouldn't exist. The 2e dragon gods I am so far ok with are Asgorath and Zotha. The rest don't exist to me in forgotten realms setting. Plus 5e seems to have done away with all the dragon gods except Io/asgorath, bahamut, tiamat, and sardior, which in my opinion, is a GOOD thing.
Hope you mention a great wyrm force dragon with a cr of 59. Yup... 59 cr. It has +99 to attack, ac of 102, caster level of 36 with a spell resistance score of 57. Force dragons have 75 str 10 dex 61 con 62 int 63 wis 62 cha as stats. They are invisible all the time like greater invisibility and they blink all the time which makes it really hard to hit them. Even if you can see through greater incisibility and pass through 102 ac you still miss %50 of you attacks against a force dragon. They also immune any damage lesser than epic damage and even epic damage will deal 25 less with every hit. Also they have a 60d12 breath weapon that deal force damage which can’t be affected from any damage reduction effect. And that’s the best part THEY ARE IMMUNE TO FORCE DAMAGE!!!! Crazy fucking monster...
Time Dragons are beyond even that(although in different ways) they reach CR 90 as a Great Wyrm. They have at will time stop with 1 round pauses between cast, permanent haste, immunity to slow, Immunity go any spell that last longer than instantaneous unless it’s cast on it by itself, an Aura that imposed slow on everything within 40ft of it without a saving throw, the ability to have more actions in one turn twice a day, Two Breath Weapons: one a cone that ages everything within it and deals con damage; the other a line that sends people forward in time(effectively removing them from combat for the time between, Advantage on rolls(which wasn’t really a thing in 3.x, but yet they had it) and to kick it all off, they can actively Time travel! With the right preparation they can defeat anything by just escaping and then going back and doubling up on the enemy with themself.
Nick Schoffen do you have a link to that beast’s page. I would like to take a deeper look to it and maybe use it in a one shot or a power show off against one of my parties.
Gamer Dwarf was a little hard to find, but I found a pdf of the old dragon magazine, it’s in the last issue before WotC shifted over to 4e. The issue was #359.
Same! I simply love his content :) It was because of him that I got inspired to make a Half Dragon player race for my party: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
@@Emma-jg4bt Hey thanks! I'm glad you like it. I found it funny that the guy who inspired it just happen to post another dragon themed video this week. I love his dragon content!
Isn't there stronger dragons now? Like force and prismatics? I thought they had CR arond the upper 50s to mid 60s and time dragons I believe are higher in CR than that.
The terrifying thing about the book with force and prismatic dragons also showed how to stat up the other dragons into the magnitudes that those two reach. Using that system an old enough dragon of any type could feasibly reach CR 100 or higher
Force and prismatics are from a generic D&D sourcebook, there aren't actually any NPCs like that in the Forgotten Realms only monsters from Epic Level Handbook that exist there are the le shay (in the Moonshaes), an atropal (there was one in Thay), a few demiliches, an umbral blot (house Karanok in Chessenta) probably the strongest monster is from the novels and has no stats, the Eldest aboleth, it ruled the city of Xxiphu and the Abolethic Sovereignty
Only one prismatic dragon ever existed canonically. Io/Asgorath. Force Dragons havent been seen in forgotten realms either, and the "prismatic-force dragon" doesnt exist.
Same! This is now an amazing week, no matter what happens! Funny thing is, is that this guy actually inspired the very homebrew that I finished this week: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
Homebrew the monsters using Fizbans: (bloat stats and damage as high as you feel like for your campaign's purposes). Raulothim: suggest he is an ancient emerald dragon, but his true power comes from his animated staffs. Take the animated staff from rim of the frost maiden and have his fight be a dragon plus 5+ staffs casting fireballs. Will already be a tough fight with all that spellcasting per round so increasing CR is not necessary. Palerandusk: ancient Gold dragon, add high-level wizard spell, has Blurred Form and Incorporeal Movement from Theros Eidolons. may swap Blurred Form for an upgraded Legendary residence to negate all damage? Needs to work out how to balance the number of times this can be used. Larendrammagar: Ancient Gold dragon, could be a greatwrym? Knows all the Wizard and Cleric spells. Could cast them as legendary actions? Tchazzar: Red Greatwrym with immunity to poison, and non-magical weapons. has Divine Being, Magic Resistance. Summons 1d4+1 Red Abishai. Has aura that gives allies advantage on saving throws (Wisdom only if too strong). has an Orb of Dragonkind, an Amulet of supremacy to boost damage. Is a high-level Sorrserer that can cast 5 9th level spells. Imvaernarhro (Inferno): Red is probably a Greatwrym. the strongest sorcerer with 7 9th, 2 10th, 2 11th, 1 12th, and 13th level spell slots. Use spellcasting as a bonus action or legendary action. has a Rod of Absorption, Brooch of shielding, Ring of spell turning, Forbiddance (close enough spell), Teleport, and maybe just also throw in a wish he can spend 13 spell slots a day on just to sell his ridicules power.
Great content as always! I do have to say I am not one to mind longer videos. I like to listen to hour long lore videos on such subjects as Warhammer 40k. I know some things just take much longer to explain and can not be so simply put into a 10 to 15 min video.
More of MrRhexx is always a good thing. :-) Looking forward to the next video as always. One of the best D&D content producers on YT and one that I don't think gets enough notice - and I'm not saying that to be flattering or anything. I think there are a lot more people out there that haven't seen your stuff that would like it. I tell other people about your channel all the time and so hopefully some of those people make it your way. Keep up the great work.
I don't know exactly what made it so intense, but that was the most impact an F bomb has ever had in my ears. It might be the effect of that cool and calm nature I've come to expect from Rhexx - when put in light of the Inferno himself... I didn't know of the Inferno before this, but now I've been made to feel like I did... Your videos are always good, but this is solid prof of mastery. Well done, and THANK YOU!
If I remember correctly, back in 3rd edition the Epic dragons (prismatic and force dragons) had Cr's that could reach into the 60's at ancient or above... to put into perspective, a standard adult prismatic is larger than an ancient Red and has a Cr of 39 These were dragons who could fight lesser gods But I guess they don't matter anymore...
I know its wild that no one mentions them. Force top out at 59 but Prismatics reach CR 66, the single highest CR in the history of d&d. they are an absolute menace with insanely high save DC's, one of the strongest spells as a breath weapon, and wish. as a dragon they can 100% afford to cast wish.
If I remember correctly, you can can cast two leveled spells in 5th edition so long as one of the spells you are casting is not a bonus action. Say you had fighter action surge and two level 1 spells. You can cast both level 1 spells by using action surge so long as neither apell is a bonus action spell. Its how you are able to cast counterspell (or other reaction spells) in the same turn of you casting a leveled spell. Though no reaction spells if you cast a bonus action spell on that turn :p
I imagine like 8 fully equipped and maxed out lvl 20 heroes just for the fight. But i imagine that in an adventure against any one of those dragons the party would be consisted of about 20 maxed out and then maybe 8 would survive to fight and try to defeat them after he killed the other 12 in the way or with his wishes scrolls and traps and lair actions and legendary actions, resistances and what not
No. They’d have to step even beyond the level 20 level cap. Maybe to 30 or 40. And I’d guess high 30s alongside ludicrous racial abilities. You are not just fighting the CR 40 dragon, but also his CR 19 minions, and his/her’s numerous artifact level items. You’d need extra help on top of that probably. Such as a host of angels.
@@viniciusklaussnerfonsecaco1952 You would need to have multiple boons and artifacts to even attempt this. Like a Lich PC, A few maxed palis, and monks might come in handy
One turn as Inferno, if he gets max duration quickened Time Stop, can be Breath weapon, quickened Time Stop, and 9 Delayed-Blast Fireballs all of which can hit the whole party if they're clumped. For 180d6 Fire (DC28 Reflex Half) + 38d10 (DC57 Reflex Half.) For an average 839 damage on two failed saves.
If he's not including the great wyrm prismatic dragon (CR 66) as the toughest mob, he's probably going to say it's Daurgothoth, especially considering the book he's using as his main source.
To actually sware to describe the strength of a dragon, its rare to hear him do that. And it lets me know any time I hear my dm say "you must fight a dragon named inferno" im just gonna say nope and ignore that fight like its death itself.
I think it depends whether the challenge is issued in-character or OOC. After all, the DM may be a metaphorical (and sometimes) literal deity of the campaign, but they're also just another person at the table.
The Draconomicon (3rd Ed) has a prestige class for high level dragons that turns them into full quasi-gods in the last level while getting many of the quasi-gods powers during the levels of that class, like full hp.
Hey ! Love your content ! Would love to see a series about specific regions which are not really being covered in 5e ??? . (Ex : Cormyr, Moonsea, Dragon Coast, Calimshan, Thay)
Bah! 5th edition lightweights! In 3rd edition was a type of dragon known as a Prismatic Dragon: challenge rating 66 for a great wyrm. Add the Dragon Ascendant prestige class and you have a challenge rating 78 dragon; for when you want a monster your players will never be high enough level to face! (A monster this powerful is pointless but I love that it exists).
This is why 3rd ed sucked. D&D is a game system. Not a fucking Game of Thrones novel with Mary Sues running around. You are suppose to be able to fight and kill anything
I can't find the Time Dragon except as homebrew. What is the source? Static Charm; you're clearly not very familiar with the earlier editions. A tarrasque, zaratan or any of the older dragons are unthinkable for any but the most dedicated group and that's just the basic monsterous manual. 1st had less power creep but there is still plenty that are unassailable for normal players (Cthulhu on page 43 of Deities and Demigods says hi). D&D is a game system but it is also a tool box designed to provide any adventures a group considers appropriate and is not limited by what one person thinks it should be.
Does this series of videos exclude the epic level handbook from 3.5? I wasn't sure if that book was just too out there to be considered part of the list as it includes 4 creatures of CR50 or more, the Devastation Beetle found on page 178 at CR 50, the Hecatoncheires on page 162 at CR 57, the Elder Wyrm Force Dragon on page 182 at CR 59, and the Elder Wyrm Prismatic Dragon on page 184 at CR 66
How did you go about translating their CR? I'm assuming you're relating them to Challenge Rating in 5th edition, but I don't recall seeing any of these characters in any of the source material. Are you extrapolating previous incarnations and assigning them a challenge rating? How are you doing so?
Raulothim is what happens when a NPC is genre savvy and knows both that the Players and Game Masters are constantly plotting to kill him... and that the best way to survive in a world like this is to be Funny and Useful. Also, damnit, I needed to know about Klauth for next week.
When he said the three most powerful dragons for some reason I thought he actually meant the three most powerful dragons you know Prismatic force and time Prismatic dragons first dragons and time dragons are the most powerful they're wyrmlings just hatched are a f****** challenge rating 46
I just checked the old magazine for the stats for Time Dragons and it’s CR 26 as a Wyrmling, but that doesn’t detract from the fact that it reaches CR 90 at Great Wyrm. Also, the Epic Level Handbook has rules for raising dragons beyond Great Wyrm. (and thus pushing CR to ever greater heights...) Dragons are the most powerful species in D&D, it’s part of why they’re in the name of the game.
I love black dragons. I always think maybe 3 or 4 black dragons would absolutely murder a tarasque. All that acid breath... but you'd never find that many of them working together for any reason and that's what I love about them
Don't forget about Time Dragons. Introduced in Dragon magazine at the end of 3.5, these things are Huge from when they first leave the egg, and by the time they're Old, they are considered Colossal+. Their Breath Weapon can either age their opponents, dealing damage to their constitution *score,* or expell them from time itself, casting them forward into the future. They're constantly under the effects of Haste, can cast Time stop for free, and eventually get a Slow Aura that makes their enemies suffer from the spell Slow.
DCs would also need to change to convert from 3e to 5e, because it's expected that you can have quit a few more ranks put into any given skill and there are more ways to boost everything. I'd put a DC40 from 3e as 30ish to keep the difficulty around the same.
Its kind of impressive and confusing that there are mortal dragons out there that are leaps and bounds stronger than their gods. Unless the Tiamat CR we have is just supposed to be an avatar and the real Tiamat is MUCH more powerful. Otherwise you'd think that Inferno or Tchazzar would have overthrown her as the god of evil dragons by now.
I would love to see a live Twitch stream of a session with epic level characters doing battle with the Tarrasque or some other Uber-powerful non-divine being....
Mr. Rhexx can you please do a series on the Primal Dragons? They aren't the Chromatic or Metallic ones. They consist of Magma, Brine, Cloud, Crystal and Umbral Dragons! ^^
“he has prepared every spell he knows, he can cast any spell that exists at will whenever he wants” pff, big deal, so can everyone who plays a spellcaster for the first time and didn’t read the rules
I feel targeted
hehehe, um you mean any wizard, warlock, cleric, druid, (and maybe bards idk) and most of the half casters (ranger, pally and whatever else is a half caster.) However sorcerers are and have always been a spontaneous caster they don't prepare spells at all. The pull from their pool of spells know whatever spell is needed at the time. 5E makes this even better cause they can take a level 1 spell and cast it at level 4 and enhance it with meta-magic. If you read through their spell casting rules you will not find a rule on their preparation of spells for this reason.
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@@Neptunequeen42 XD, yes I am
@Viktor Magnusson Yeah most of what made sorcerers special in past editions has been given to pretty much every caster class now. Before the Wizard needed to prepare his amount of fireballs or whatever for the day and when he was out of them he was out of them regardless of if he still had slots available. This was wonky so I'm not opposed to it being changed however a wizard can now prepare from his known spells and as long as it's prepared for the day he can cast it as many times as he wants as long as he has slots available that can be used for that spell. Metamagics were supposedly given only to Sorcs now but even that's not true as a lot of caster subclasses give metamagic or even stronger equivalents to their chosen genre of spell. Especially wizards getting very strong and most are always active metamagic like abilities, while also having their near infinite spell options, as well as more casts per day, and getting spells for free, and having the best options in magic items solely for their class. In all honesty Sorcs drew the short straw this edition as they have very little that makes them unique and aside from subclass flare they don't get all that much in the base class.
First entry: *Paranoid about extremely powerful wizard attacks*
Second entry: *Victim of extremely powerful wizard attacks*
3rd: an extremely powerful wizard
It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
It's always the wizards you have to be careful of... Well, next to the bards of course: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
"I Told You!"
@@rewritable_ one can still be paranoid even if someone really is out to get them. it's like phobia, just because the something they are afraid of they SHOULD be afraid of doesn't make it not a phobia. the saying is supposed to be "Just because he's paranoid doesn't mean they aren't really out to get him"
"inferno uses his action to hit you with his claw (rolls dice) he misses"
"hell yeah! we can beat him"
"he uses his bonus action now"
"to run away I bet"
"he kills the sun"
Lol
That “oh shit” moment when fighting something that you realize is several levels of power above you
@@sanddry738 not level, magnitude. Nice comment though
Considering he has a +24 to hit just from his strength, so probably over +30 with his proficiency, I doubt he'll be missing too many attacks either
I love giving my players these moments
Now we need a "Strongest Dungeons in Dungeons and Dragons" video.
Great dungeons think alike.
... it's actually a pretty good idea. Top most dangerous dungeons.
@some kinda guy *The strongest &*
@some kinda guy Best comment award to you
That would be a toss-up between Undermountain and Myth Drannor.
The first time hearing Mr.Rexx sweat and it’s used to describe infernos power
Me: oh no
Yeah that "fucking raw power" was very uncharacteristic of him and a big emphasis.
Where is the chill? Dear god there isn't any
@@sebbychou you know when he throws the F bomb, you dont want to mess with this dragon.
@@taco9061 nice attention to word placement
Thats exactly what I was thinking
Some adventure: "Damn this fight is tough. At least it'll worth it to get this Orb of dragonkind"
*Enemy proceeds to use said orb*
"Alright group, be rea... what the hell is that thing?!?!"
*Tchazzar has joined the server*
*Server suffered critical existence failure*
I'm surprised that all of the CR40s are Red Dragons. I thought that there would be at least one of the metallic dragons in the running. Looks like it is canon that the chromatic dragons are winning.
Well not so much, it is more that Red Dragons are more iconic. Though in my head canon the Red Half Dragons are simply more aggressive as as people and expand faster: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
Daniel Lamb They are more ambitious after all.
Well, they would be winning in Faerûn if Inferno could be bothered, he can't. Some say he is part Honey Badger.
Well I guess the reason is because red dragons and chromatic dragons in general go out of their way to display their power trying to gain worshippers to become gods there are likely a lot of very powerful metallic dragons who are either unknown or have not been named
In old school D&D, good creatures were universally more powerful and more rare than their evil counterparts. It only makes sense to leave a gap for the 'good' players to make a difference. For some reason that has changed in modern D&D. It probably has something to do with it becoming more popular for the player's to be villains--not sure, though.
*~ Dragonborn:* _"Am I a joke to you?"_
*~ Dragon:* _"Eeeeyup."_
Dragonborn could defeat him. Dragonborn can defeat any dragon, that's his purpose for existing. essentially the hand of the dragon god, made to keep dragons from crushing other races entirely. If it's a dragon, Dragonborn can defeat it.
How about Half Dragon? www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
@@baneblackguard584 The joke is meant on the fact that they were created and ensalved by them, bruh.
EDIT- In other words, you are taking it out of context.
Geo Leo Bruh, he means Skyrim
@@baneblackguard584 Dragonborn is also the name of a race in DnD bud
Ok, if a 12th level slot can literally make you a god, wtf could that guy do with a 13th level one? XD
Not destroy magic when mantling a god unlike Karsus.
A 13th lvl spells allows the caster to kill your Dm and escape from the confines of fantasy into the real world.
@@Coolerx2x A 14th level spell allows you, not your PC, to mantle a real life god.
@@Coolerx2x The ultimate dream of the Red Mages from 8-Bit Theatre.
In my world (Created as a hobby, still ongoing) the two thirteenth level spells are "Control" and "Obliterate". Control makes you the DM, Obliterate destroys the multiverse. Literally, if you cast Control, you get all of the files for the world, and if you cast Obliterate, I delete them. The material components for either is a little ball made of the essence of thousands of my equivalent of Greater Deities. The only time either was ever cast was when Perampas Tidak Bijaksana, the first mortal, tore off the hand of Pencipta Yang Bijaksana, the Creator, and used it as the material components for both Obliterate, on Pencipta, and control, on nothingness. That was how magic was created - from the essence of their corpses. Greater Deities in my world are people who embody a single concept entirely. For example, Vallin, the god of death, who can kill anyone instantly with no option for coming back ever. They are granted additional power by the essence of Pencipta and Perampas. You also must be one of these Deities to cast the spells. Not to mention, the orb is contained within a nation that is protected by dozens of these Deities, none of whom would ever cast the spells, nor can they. Because the final qualification to cast them? Every other being in all of existence must agree, as well as all other beings who have ever existed. Perampas and Pencipta were the only two beings when the spells were cast. Pencipta was brainwashed into accepting it. (Yes, the omnipotent Creator of everything was beaten down by Perampas.)
i wish wizards would make a 5th edition dragonomicon updating all these dragons for the newer system. i love dragons and MrRhexx videos on them.
Same! His dragon content inspired me to homebrew a Half Dragon player race: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
Me too, I really want to see the gem dragons in 5e
@@cheepcheep4499 thatd be amazing. Id love to run a dragon heavy campaign in 5E. Beyond what is offered in hoard of the dragob queen and rise of taimat.
how hard is it to just translate the stats from ADnD and 3/3.5 into 5e terms? Behaviorally and in concept dragons will still be the same regardless of edition. I never played 4th or 5th so I'm talking out of my ass, here, of course.
@@tree_alone it looks very difficult as the way they read are vastly different to me in stats. having never played 3/3.5 or 4 i couldn't say. it might be easier than it seems to me but i honestly have no idea.
CR 50: Kirby
Kirby would be CR 300, I think.
Kirby alone is a cr 2, but he takes on the stats of whatever he inhales
To put into perspective a neutorium golem is both a CR 9721, and is a universal level threat, yet Kirby has taken down his fair share of universal threats. So you do the math.
@@manuelcamara6400 ... make that CR 200000
Sentient bag of devourment that can inhale up to a large creature, then polymorphs as that creature.
When they say “Mistra did this” or “Mistra banned that”, are we really just talking about Wizards of The Coast just doing that for the game itself?
I mean.... yes and no
You mean the anti-fun police?
@@teddycouch9306 so yesnt
No... Forgotten realms is based on real books by an author. WotC would make higher lvl content if it existed. There are stat blocks for gods avatars in 5e
Sometimes you can just imagine how these monsters were invented at the table:
DM: Oh yeah, the dragon can also block everything and cast any spell as a bonus action!
player: but what does he want? What does he get out of setting us up?
DM: eh... It's a MYSTERY! No one knows.
So of tiamat is cr 30 how does she hold influence over all these dragons with over 10 cr ranks above her?
CR 30 is her avatar, a mere shadow of her power.
@@dragohammer6937 how strong would she be in full force?
@@dragohammer6937 interesting. What about asmodeus? He's a cr 39 yet there are dragons who arnt full gods who are higher than him?
@@thumbsup1214 he's not a god, just the most powerfull devil, and dragons where basically born to be powerfull.
You could probably beat up your mom yet she still has influence over you
Tchazzar is the coolest! "Start a rebellion, lead the new kingdom to awesomeness. then leave them mysteriously and have the be like 'woo, hero-god'" I was sad with the whole tiamat attachment though.
Check out the Brotherhood of the Griffin novels if you want to read about his return during the 4e era. Definitely my favorite forgotten realms novels.
I greatly prefer Inferno. his power doesn't come from worshippers or deities. he's just raw power incarnate.
I thought inferno was a hybrid child of a red dragon and gold dragon who were killed right after he hatched. And the only ones who know of him are other dragons that help him boost his power so he never has to suffer the loss he did as a hatchling.
A few minor corrections/extra info on Inferno... Inferno is not actually a red dragon, he is a crossbreed between gold and red, which was never meant to happen. There two dragons are the most powerful of the chromatic and metallic dragons and he gained the power of both, although Tiamat personally made sure to have his parents murdered and the rest of the eggs destroyed. Bahamut then later personally came to teach him magic and he has devine based powers. Half his breath weapon deals quasi damage, meaning it's godly and cannot be resisted. He is also known to be one of the best magic users of teleportation and dimension based magic of his time, even impressing elminster when he hear of it. His main lair has over a dozen teleportation based traps that will just remove you from the lair if you don't know how to get through them. Also in his main lair has a lake of melted gold, that he uses illusions to make it look like it is so deep that he can swim in it, but it is actually only a few feet deep and actually teleports the rest of his body to his secret lair in another land... he just uses this to show off to anyone that enters his lair. He also is the first dragon to take adventurers to court for breaking and entering in his lair and wanted them sent to prison for attempted theft... yep... he is also a lawyer dragon...
Is there somewhere to read all of that?
@@Wyrm7774 (thinks)... jeez, been ages since I looked up his lore... thing there is a page about him in the forgotten realms wiki? But i can't remember now. But yea, he was a super powerful and cool dragon... maybe a little op
He seems like a decent dragon to hang out, like he spend most of his time chilling or being in other land…. Until daddy Bahamut/ mommy timat or who ever power enough/respected call him to do some errands.
I have the draconomicon of the 3rd edition and to be fair I don't see any reference to being a crossbreed. Where did you find those informations? I ask because I am homebrewing a campaign where the villain is inferno.
I can't remember my original source, but if you look up Inferno, Ancient dragon of faerun... maybe great dragon?... epic?... can't remember... but it is from old lore books and some videos
Maybe a video about Divine Ranks? Quasi-Deities, Demigods Lesser Gods etc...
I was told gods weren't allowed on the material planes. So i don't know what a quasi deity is
I would love to see more of his Dragon content! He was the one who inspired my Half Dragon player race homebrew: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
I would like to see this.
Faiths & Avatars, and Faiths & Pantheons is your friend. 2e and 3e books
@@alexmcclay8152 I know. Anyone can just google whatever he's talking about in his videos, look at the sources and call it a day, but that wouldn't be very interesting
Most powerful weapon in D&D against non-dragons:
A fishing rod with an amulet of supremacy on the string.
Just toss that amulet on any non-dragon, and....
Fishing Rod of Fuck you
Hear me out; Amulet of supremacy harpoon.
So you are out in the wild with this ingenious construction. Suddenly a dragon appears. The dragon likes that amulet of supremacy. Your last actions?
I'm not that familiar with tabletop rpgs or forgotten realms (beyond having played a 1000 hours of baldurs gate, including all the mods). How the hell do mundane medieval cities like Baldurs gate or waterdeep coexist with nuke level creatures, Archmages, Avatars and evil gods? The world map and various cultures looks too.... normal for how powerful everything is. You would expect there to either be extremely advanced magical empires or a chaotic world.
Maybe they have plenty of bards going around seducing dragons to keep them at bay? www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
a few thousand years before the present day, there used to be floating magical cities and magical items galore. But then they tried, with their unlimited magic, to become godlike and then the goddess of magic fucked them up pretty bad. Now you can't quite get there anymore.
@@MrRhexx quite possibly the best description of that I've ever heard
@@MrRhexx Yeah I heard about that. Karsus Avatar right?
Funny how most mainstream fantasy settings are essentially post-post-apocalypses (there was once a great world spanning civilization and now it is in ruins).
I think the only thing that can really explain the current status quo is a massive ancient secret society which somehow preserves the status quo for some reason. Maybe they discovered something analogous to the reapers and want to keep technology and magic relatively low lest they attract the attention of some kind of cosmic horror. Maybe they gave Karsus the inspiration for his epic-spell, knowing what would happen. Perhaps they social engineered the spellplague.
Is it possible to have such far reaching changes to the vanilla setting for tabletop rpgs? I only know cRPGs. Not familiar with how this sort of game works.
Most of the really really strong monsters just want to be left alone and probably wouldn't seek out and attack a major city like Neverwinter or Waterdeep and even if they did they'd be met with great resistance since like 5 CR30+ characters live in Waterdeep, it's probably not worth the effort, even if you are the chosen Tyrant of a dragon god.
So Raulothim is basically caster Gilgamesh from Fate universe. Nice!
"Mystra, where is Elminster?"
"i lost it..."
Eh, more like Archer Gil. Caster uses his fortress and it's turrets. Archer uses Gate of Babylon and chucks a bunch of weapons at you.
@@jkosch Isn't Gilgeam actual Gilgamesh?
@@FireTalon24 I think he means more in the sense that Raulothim fights by using staffs to spam magic attacks the same way CasGil does.
Speaking of dragons I wonder what cr would the lotr dragons have if they would be in d&d, like Ancalagon the black for example
A L O T
One time I was playing DND and I came across a Black dragon with my Dwarf Fighter I tamed it so I named it Ancalagon The Death Eater lol
Well ancalagon is the size of a mountain sooo....
@@andyr4810 How the hell did you tame a black dragon?
@@andyr4810 how???
What's big, scaley and bounces?
A dragon on a trampoline
Or a Dragon riding a bard... www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
I'm sorry....
What's big, strong, and ripped?
The trampoline.
@@nielsdejong Do you have a social media for your art
@@nielsdejong Bc i love it
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„Why, yes. I _will_ gladly eat that sword. Thank you very much.“
My first thought when I hear about Raulothim's fighting style: "So he's basically a dragon mage version of Gilgamesh"
Will you end up including Force and Prismatic dragons from the Epic Level Handbook? They can reach CR 59 and 66 respectively
Those are just gods at that point
What about Time Dragons?
I was looking to see if someone else remembered those. There is a lot of stuff in the ELH that is more powerful than anything that he's talked about in these videos about the most powerful monsters in D&D.
The Horned King Time Dragon Great Wyrms are CR 90
@@jusquanorthwind1016 ... ok then.
A gem dragon is on the list.
This makes me so proud someone acknowledges them! 😢👌👍😂
Wizard's slowly remembering they exist.
They are Psionic masters. When there is Magic Nullifiers all over the place, just bring a Gem Dragon for wild Shenanigans.
But if you want to go full Psionic, I choose Palladium System.
@@kevynhansyn2902 for me, psionics could easily be what monks draw on, if you really think about it. It could be a more spiritual mind form of chi. And considering stuff like meditation, levitation by windpower, and mind reading powers primarily come from east and has been a eastern practice, makes you wonder why not call psionics a branch of chi? 🤷♂️🤔🤨
But that's the thing. Divine dragons (which WAS what the gold was called at ons point), which is another word back in the day for metallics, drew on the more celestial/angelic/godly type of magic source, and arcane dragons (aka chromatics) drew on the more primordial/demonic/devilish/(evil)godly type of magic.
The gems were just in between and not really one or the other. A true balance between law/order and chaos/mayhem.
But the psionics part has been harmed too hard, as well as a bit on the neutral abuse. People thinking they are ALL types of neutral, when really, the are neutral in morals, like metallics are GOOD in morals, and chromatics are BAD in morals, so they aren't neutral like neutral evil or neutral good, but neutral in lawful neutral, and chaotic neutral. But mainly neutral neutral, if you catch my drift.
Your Brass Dragon seems angry. D:
@@dubuyajay9964 hmm?
Is there a "Chosen of Bahamut" template too? If Tiamat has one, then Bahamut probably should too.
Don't forget chosen of sardior, too.
@@zionthedragon8866 Just so you know, you made get into a rabbit hole of dragons.
@@MiguelAngelGutierrezRamirez huh? I made a get into a rabbit hole? What? I am sorry, I do not understand.
@@zionthedragon8866 My bad.
* Made ME get into a rabbit hole -- as in looking for info on dragon gods and such where one thing leads to another and stuff.
@@MiguelAngelGutierrezRamirez oh. Ok. But I said sardior because he is one of the original 1e dragon gods, WAY before Io was a thing, and all these either grimderp, cringe lolz, mystery saping dragon gods came to play, like hlal, the two wingless drake styled platinum dragons (seriously, there should only be ONE platinum dragon), Null (that's not even a actual god name, that's just lazy writing, and the grimderp name and wannabe edgelord.), Zorquan, and task.
ALL those gods are either unnecessary, not needed, poorly executed, fight with certain worlds lore, or just don't make sense and take away from the mystery.
Like we don't need task to explain why dragons hoard. The hoarding thing should be a mystery, it adds to the whole idea that dragons may or may NOT have a reason to have the stuff they do. Hlal is your radical extremist sjw who thinks they know what they are talking about but actually have no clue, Tamara and Lendys are just bland original pieces of bahamut's idea of justice.
Garyx could easily be absorbed into sardior, for the fire and renewal part (minus the destruction), so no need for garyx anyhow.
And finally, Azharul, Kalzareinad, and Kereska are apparently gods of magic, the arcane kind, you know, THE THING MYSTRA CONTROLS?!?! Why would there be a god of magic, when all arcane magic (not counting sorcerers) comes from her? These magic dragons would bring chaos to it, and plus mystra would cuck them, so these magic dragons shouldn't exist.
The 2e dragon gods I am so far ok with are Asgorath and Zotha.
The rest don't exist to me in forgotten realms setting. Plus 5e seems to have done away with all the dragon gods except Io/asgorath, bahamut, tiamat, and sardior, which in my opinion, is a GOOD thing.
Hope you mention a great wyrm force dragon with a cr of 59. Yup... 59 cr. It has +99 to attack, ac of 102, caster level of 36 with a spell resistance score of 57. Force dragons have 75 str 10 dex 61 con 62 int 63 wis 62 cha as stats. They are invisible all the time like greater invisibility and they blink all the time which makes it really hard to hit them. Even if you can see through greater incisibility and pass through 102 ac you still miss %50 of you attacks against a force dragon. They also immune any damage lesser than epic damage and even epic damage will deal 25 less with every hit. Also they have a 60d12 breath weapon that deal force damage which can’t be affected from any damage reduction effect. And that’s the best part THEY ARE IMMUNE TO FORCE DAMAGE!!!!
Crazy fucking monster...
Time Dragons are beyond even that(although in different ways) they reach CR 90 as a Great Wyrm. They have at will time stop with 1 round pauses between cast, permanent haste, immunity to slow, Immunity go any spell that last longer than instantaneous unless it’s cast on it by itself, an Aura that imposed slow on everything within 40ft of it without a saving throw, the ability to have more actions in one turn twice a day, Two Breath Weapons: one a cone that ages everything within it and deals con damage; the other a line that sends people forward in time(effectively removing them from combat for the time between, Advantage on rolls(which wasn’t really a thing in 3.x, but yet they had it) and to kick it all off, they can actively Time travel! With the right preparation they can defeat anything by just escaping and then going back and doubling up on the enemy with themself.
Nick Schoffen do you have a link to that beast’s page. I would like to take a deeper look to it and maybe use it in a one shot or a power show off against one of my parties.
Gamer Dwarf was a little hard to find, but I found a pdf of the old dragon magazine, it’s in the last issue before WotC shifted over to 4e. The issue was #359.
Gamer Dwarf yeah I can’t find exactly which place I got it from to link it •~• sorry :/
Nick Schoffen I’ll try to find it, thanks.
Yay! Best part of my week, can’t wait to see what’s next.
Same! I simply love his content :) It was because of him that I got inspired to make a Half Dragon player race for my party: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
@@nielsdejong i saw that a few days ago and loved it. Nice to find you underneath this video.
@@Emma-jg4bt Hey thanks! I'm glad you like it. I found it funny that the guy who inspired it just happen to post another dragon themed video this week. I love his dragon content!
Isn't there stronger dragons now? Like force and prismatics? I thought they had CR arond the upper 50s to mid 60s and time dragons I believe are higher in CR than that.
In 3rd Edition a standard adult prismatic had a CR of 39... a great wyrm had one around 70... so yeah, far stronger than anything on these lists.
And then there's the infamous Prismatic-force dragon. The offspring of a prismatic and force dragon
The terrifying thing about the book with force and prismatic dragons also showed how to stat up the other dragons into the magnitudes that those two reach. Using that system an old enough dragon of any type could feasibly reach CR 100 or higher
Force and prismatics are from a generic D&D sourcebook, there aren't actually any NPCs like that in the Forgotten Realms
only monsters from Epic Level Handbook that exist there are the le shay (in the Moonshaes), an atropal (there was one in Thay), a few demiliches, an umbral blot (house Karanok in Chessenta)
probably the strongest monster is from the novels and has no stats, the Eldest aboleth, it ruled the city of Xxiphu and the Abolethic Sovereignty
Only one prismatic dragon ever existed canonically. Io/Asgorath. Force Dragons havent been seen in forgotten realms either, and the "prismatic-force dragon" doesnt exist.
I clicked immediately
We all did, I was wondering when he will FINALLY upload it, the wait is unberable
Same! This is now an amazing week, no matter what happens! Funny thing is, is that this guy actually inspired the very homebrew that I finished this week: www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/fbwoxt/art_half_dragon_player_race_finalized_after/
@@stanisawdrewienkowski2843 he still left something out though. Oh the cliffhangers
@@stamatisvolanis8482 Yeah, sometimes i wish he didnt upload for twice the time, but placed everything in one-two vids. Cliffhangers are the worst.
The first one is just the AinzOoalGown of dragons
Homebrew the monsters using Fizbans: (bloat stats and damage as high as you feel like for your campaign's purposes).
Raulothim: suggest he is an ancient emerald dragon, but his true power comes from his animated staffs. Take the animated staff from rim of the frost maiden and have his fight be a dragon plus 5+ staffs casting fireballs. Will already be a tough fight with all that spellcasting per round so increasing CR is not necessary.
Palerandusk: ancient Gold dragon, add high-level wizard spell, has Blurred Form and Incorporeal Movement from Theros Eidolons. may swap Blurred Form for an upgraded Legendary residence to negate all damage? Needs to work out how to balance the number of times this can be used.
Larendrammagar: Ancient Gold dragon, could be a greatwrym? Knows all the Wizard and Cleric spells. Could cast them as legendary actions?
Tchazzar: Red Greatwrym with immunity to poison, and non-magical weapons. has Divine Being, Magic Resistance. Summons 1d4+1 Red Abishai. Has aura that gives allies advantage on saving throws (Wisdom only if too strong). has an Orb of Dragonkind, an Amulet of supremacy to boost damage. Is a high-level Sorrserer that can cast 5 9th level spells.
Imvaernarhro (Inferno): Red is probably a Greatwrym. the strongest sorcerer with 7 9th, 2 10th, 2 11th, 1 12th, and 13th level spell slots. Use spellcasting as a bonus action or legendary action. has a Rod of Absorption, Brooch of shielding, Ring of spell turning, Forbiddance (close enough spell), Teleport, and maybe just also throw in a wish he can spend 13 spell slots a day on just to sell his ridicules power.
Love all you do for the community and lore lovers around the world. Keep up the great work!
You've told me so much fascinating lore about a game I'm just finally getting into the by now that you've earned my subscription.
So Tchazzar can block my Fus Ro Da? NOT FAIR!!!
To be fair, fus ro dah never did anything to dragons anyway except stagger them for a split second. So almost nothing.
And he can send it back....with interest.
@@kevynhansyn2902 interest enough to send you flinig across town
6:08 that is the sound of vocal warmups paying off
Great content as always! I do have to say I am not one to mind longer videos. I like to listen to hour long lore videos on such subjects as Warhammer 40k. I know some things just take much longer to explain and can not be so simply put into a 10 to 15 min video.
More of MrRhexx is always a good thing. :-) Looking forward to the next video as always. One of the best D&D content producers on YT and one that I don't think gets enough notice - and I'm not saying that to be flattering or anything. I think there are a lot more people out there that haven't seen your stuff that would like it. I tell other people about your channel all the time and so hopefully some of those people make it your way. Keep up the great work.
I don't know exactly what made it so intense, but that was the most impact an F bomb has ever had in my ears.
It might be the effect of that cool and calm nature I've come to expect from Rhexx - when put in light of the Inferno himself...
I didn't know of the Inferno before this, but now I've been made to feel like I did...
Your videos are always good, but this is solid prof of mastery.
Well done,
and THANK YOU!
A new video on my birthday? That's my favourite present so far^^
14:24 moooom, he Said the f-word
he does it in several videos :P
I'm loving these videos, thank you MrRhexx
I love dragons so much, thank you for this video!
Don't forget Dragon lords can resist Dragon born as Well as gods fire dragons are kinda boring molten ones are less boring
I hope that there'll be a "Strongest Dungeons in Dungeons and Dragons" video in the future as well.
So, the first one is a beholder that got body swapped with a dragon?
MrRhexx, I'm just here to say that there is no such a thing as a too long video of yours
if you post a 2 day long video, i would watch it fully
If I remember correctly, back in 3rd edition the Epic dragons (prismatic and force dragons) had Cr's that could reach into the 60's at ancient or above... to put into perspective, a standard adult prismatic is larger than an ancient Red and has a Cr of 39
These were dragons who could fight lesser gods
But I guess they don't matter anymore...
I know its wild that no one mentions them. Force top out at 59 but Prismatics reach CR 66, the single highest CR in the history of d&d. they are an absolute menace with insanely high save DC's, one of the strongest spells as a breath weapon, and wish. as a dragon they can 100% afford to cast wish.
this is exactly what i needed in my life rn! thanks bro!
7:11 and that's how my last campaign ended
If I remember correctly, you can can cast two leveled spells in 5th edition so long as one of the spells you are casting is not a bonus action. Say you had fighter action surge and two level 1 spells. You can cast both level 1 spells by using action surge so long as neither apell is a bonus action spell. Its how you are able to cast counterspell (or other reaction spells) in the same turn of you casting a leveled spell. Though no reaction spells if you cast a bonus action spell on that turn :p
Just imagine how powerful must be party in dnd to kill this dragons.
I imagine like 8 fully equipped and maxed out lvl 20 heroes just for the fight. But i imagine that in an adventure against any one of those dragons the party would be consisted of about 20 maxed out and then maybe 8 would survive to fight and try to defeat them after he killed the other 12 in the way or with his wishes scrolls and traps and lair actions and legendary actions, resistances and what not
No. They’d have to step even beyond the level 20 level cap. Maybe to 30 or 40. And I’d guess high 30s alongside ludicrous racial abilities. You are not just fighting the CR 40 dragon, but also his CR 19 minions, and his/her’s numerous artifact level items. You’d need extra help on top of that probably. Such as a host of angels.
@@viniciusklaussnerfonsecaco1952 You would need to have multiple boons and artifacts to even attempt this. Like a Lich PC, A few maxed palis, and monks might come in handy
@@bayardjohnson7239 Or one max damage hit from one of the strongest combos.
iBoolno I Cast Magic Missle
One turn as Inferno, if he gets max duration quickened Time Stop, can be Breath weapon, quickened Time Stop, and 9 Delayed-Blast Fireballs all of which can hit the whole party if they're clumped. For 180d6 Fire (DC28 Reflex Half) + 38d10 (DC57 Reflex Half.)
For an average 839 damage on two failed saves.
I'm curiouse to find out about this CR 50! Is it the Devastation Beetle from 3.5? Or maybe the Force Dragon? ( >_>)
If he's not including the great wyrm prismatic dragon (CR 66) as the toughest mob, he's probably going to say it's Daurgothoth, especially considering the book he's using as his main source.
Ben Walker Theres also the 3.5 Great Wyrm Time Dragon with a whopping CR 90.
@@lawfulwood hey! Well done! :D you were correct!
Mr Rhexx always coming through with amazing content
I'd also love to see a video on Pit Fiends and Balors if you can! ^^
To actually sware to describe the strength of a dragon, its rare to hear him do that.
And it lets me know any time I hear my dm say "you must fight a dragon named inferno" im just gonna say nope and ignore that fight like its death itself.
I have never clicked on a video so fast in. My life
Great video. In my campaign the Terrasque is the most powerful. Placed on Toril to prevent anyone from being to powerful and upset the balance.
What would my cr be if I challenged the dm to single combat?
I give you a CR of 25!!
1/4th, same as the average commoner.
@@Krishnath.Dragon Way Harsh, Tai.
I think it depends whether the challenge is issued in-character or OOC.
After all, the DM may be a metaphorical (and sometimes) literal deity of the campaign, but they're also just another person at the table.
There's so much interesting hidden lore about Shar, maybe a video about her in the future, @MrRhexx ?
Where can i find these stat blocks? seems like everywhere i look has Zero information about any of these guys..
The Draconomicon (3rd Ed) has a prestige class for high level dragons that turns them into full quasi-gods in the last level while getting many of the quasi-gods powers during the levels of that class, like full hp.
What about Prismatic & Force dragons from 3.5ed Epic Level handbook? Those have CR's up to 68.
And Time Dragons, they hit CR 90 at Great Wyrm. Aren’t Epic Dragons crazy!?
Glad to see you refer to specific sources!
Meatyogreatbest, I miss your name at the end. /Cry
same :(
Hey ! Love your content ! Would love to see a series about specific regions which are not really being covered in 5e ??? . (Ex : Cormyr, Moonsea, Dragon Coast, Calimshan, Thay)
Bah! 5th edition lightweights! In 3rd edition was a type of dragon known as a Prismatic Dragon: challenge rating 66 for a great wyrm. Add the Dragon Ascendant prestige class and you have a challenge rating 78 dragon; for when you want a monster your players will never be high enough level to face! (A monster this powerful is pointless but I love that it exists).
This is why 3rd ed sucked. D&D is a game system. Not a fucking Game of Thrones novel with Mary Sues running around. You are suppose to be able to fight and kill anything
There’s also the Time Dragon, CR 90 at Great Wyrm, a beast beyond all others.
I can't find the Time Dragon except as homebrew. What is the source? Static Charm; you're clearly not very familiar with the earlier editions. A tarrasque, zaratan or any of the older dragons are unthinkable for any but the most dedicated group and that's just the basic monsterous manual. 1st had less power creep but there is still plenty that are unassailable for normal players (Cthulhu on page 43 of Deities and Demigods says hi). D&D is a game system but it is also a tool box designed to provide any adventures a group considers appropriate and is not limited by what one person thinks it should be.
Does this series of videos exclude the epic level handbook from 3.5? I wasn't sure if that book was just too out there to be considered part of the list as it includes 4 creatures of CR50 or more, the Devastation Beetle found on page 178 at CR 50, the Hecatoncheires on page 162 at CR 57, the Elder Wyrm Force Dragon on page 182 at CR 59, and the Elder Wyrm Prismatic Dragon on page 184 at CR 66
I would love a video on the seven sisters from the last episode. They seem awesome
Love the work you do, your videos are GREAT!!
*when the nerd starts swearing*
most of us swear a lot :P and this guy does it pretty often. its one of the reasons i like him :)
@@omega311888 oh don’t you worry, sweetums, I swear too 😉
15:31 all he needs is a partner and he has the stats to cast over 9 levels spells according to the 13 level spell video
Its mr. Rhexx's time ! Chill , and enjoy the amazing flow of content.
loving this series i was always curious about the top dogs of dnd
I miss hearing Major fail gaming on the patron list.
How did you go about translating their CR?
I'm assuming you're relating them to Challenge Rating in 5th edition, but I don't recall seeing any of these characters in any of the source material.
Are you extrapolating previous incarnations and assigning them a challenge rating? How are you doing so?
I've always loved the good alignment dragons in DnD!!
nielsdejong question, why do you keep linking that under almost every comment?
nielsdejong question, why do you keep linking that under almost every comment?
Raulothim is what happens when a NPC is genre savvy and knows both that the Players and Game Masters are constantly plotting to kill him... and that the best way to survive in a world like this is to be Funny and Useful.
Also, damnit, I needed to know about Klauth for next week.
When he said the three most powerful dragons for some reason I thought he actually meant the three most powerful dragons you know Prismatic force and time Prismatic dragons first dragons and time dragons are the most powerful they're wyrmlings just hatched are a f****** challenge rating 46
I just checked the old magazine for the stats for Time Dragons and it’s CR 26 as a Wyrmling, but that doesn’t detract from the fact that it reaches CR 90 at Great Wyrm. Also, the Epic Level Handbook has rules for raising dragons beyond Great Wyrm. (and thus pushing CR to ever greater heights...) Dragons are the most powerful species in D&D, it’s part of why they’re in the name of the game.
I love black dragons. I always think maybe 3 or 4 black dragons would absolutely murder a tarasque. All that acid breath... but you'd never find that many of them working together for any reason and that's what I love about them
Don't forget about Time Dragons. Introduced in Dragon magazine at the end of 3.5, these things are Huge from when they first leave the egg, and by the time they're Old, they are considered Colossal+. Their Breath Weapon can either age their opponents, dealing damage to their constitution *score,* or expell them from time itself, casting them forward into the future. They're constantly under the effects of Haste, can cast Time stop for free, and eventually get a Slow Aura that makes their enemies suffer from the spell Slow.
God I want to see they're stats so bad
just take a dragon and give them 20 levels in an appropriate class,
a level 20 acient red dragon with 20 levels in bear barb would be terrifing
or a 20 level draconic sorcerer and 20 level wizard multiclass spellcasting god
(this would be for larendragammar)
In what edition?
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Stats for 5th I hope
I have been checking for this daily.
The DM doesn't have stats and could stomp all of them.
DCs would also need to change to convert from 3e to 5e, because it's expected that you can have quit a few more ranks put into any given skill and there are more ways to boost everything. I'd put a DC40 from 3e as 30ish to keep the difficulty around the same.
First. Never had that before.
While I'm here, MrRhexx, you are a legend.
@Douglas Bonbeck No what?
@Douglas Bonbeck Weird, there were no comments or views when I posted.
@Douglas Bonbeck It's all good, man. No offence taken. Happy to cede the crown.
Have you considered using the epic handbook for AD&D 3.5. You can get up to level 50 or so. Many of those feats are just plain nasty powerful.
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14:24 "pure, unadulterated, raw fucking power" never heard Rhexx curse before my goodness
Its kind of impressive and confusing that there are mortal dragons out there that are leaps and bounds stronger than their gods. Unless the Tiamat CR we have is just supposed to be an avatar and the real Tiamat is MUCH more powerful. Otherwise you'd think that Inferno or Tchazzar would have overthrown her as the god of evil dragons by now.
The phrase "Pure, unadulterated, raw fucking power" invokes a lot more fear in a fictional character than it probably should
I would love to see a live Twitch stream of a session with epic level characters doing battle with the Tarrasque or some other Uber-powerful non-divine being....
Mr. Rhexx can you please do a series on the Primal Dragons? They aren't the Chromatic or Metallic ones. They consist of Magma, Brine, Cloud, Crystal and Umbral Dragons! ^^
And he keeps them coming... Love these!
Great D&D analysis of dragons!
I love your videos. I waited all week for it.
I have an idea next time we encounter a upper CR30 enemy! Open Portal to Star Mountain, push enemy through it, close portal.
Can you make a video only about Elminster? I think that a lot of people would enjoy it too.
Wish you the best from Brazil!
Everyone hates Elminster. He is Ed Greenwood's poorly written avatar. Gandalf without any of the wit, charm, and likability