FINALLY someone who REALLY teaches you how to read mandrels!! People know that you drop a ring onto a mandrel to read the size. But which number is the correct size - the top, the bottom, or the middle number?? No one I've seen taught this except you!! You scratched my itch and probably a lot of other people's as well!!! Thank you thank you thank you!!
Perfect!!! Ok, first, mandrel drop, very nice!!!! And deserved because you just helped me so much!! My mom gave me loads of my grandma's jewelry... she was a big lover of QVC, big! But once family had what they wanted, she wanted me to have the rest to sell, because I have some debilitating health issues that cost my husband a lot. My health insurance is as much as our house payment. But, I've held onto for many years because... I don't know, it made me feel bad to sell. I know, its what its for, but still felt bad. But, like everyone, we lost everything as covid hit.. no work, and with my autoimmune diseases, it was hard to get anything. So, cards have been maxed, husband is working as hard as he can even though we're both older. But I had another surgery to give me back use of my arms. Need it on both, but started with the right since it was worst.... I will not get the left done. I had to completely relearn how to use my right arm and half my chest was numb yet on fire, and my right phrenic nerve was damaged, so my right side diaphragm is paralyzed and is up and has crushed my lung. We hoped it was temporary. Obviously I changed doctors. We've waited and done more tests and it's permanent as is the nerve damage in my neck arm and chest. So I will need another surgery .. but there's no fix. I will be renting oxygen equipment for the rest of my life and well as not help my husband with work or even regular household stuff. On top of new knees, rods in my back, RA and a ridiculous amount more. Sorry I'm babbling.... but I'm losing it a bit, as is obvious. My husband even did a gofundme thing, which we've both been sick about because we know this is our problem. But... every day is something new. Car not working. Blah blah blah... we're selling what we can which now means the jewelry. I don't know know, I assume ebay. But I borrowed a mandrel so I'm trying, which my shaky hands don't like, to find the sizes of many many rings. It's a very heavy mandrel, and hard to see numbers. I figure I should take a photo of the ring on the mandrel so they see the size. But, I don't know. Sorry, I'm having a hard time with all this, so I'm apparently writing as I'm worrying, which means it's too much. I apologize for the babbling. But, thank you so much for your perfect way of explaining how to best use it. I am surprised when I'm seeing so many be odd sizes like 7 & 3/4 .. or 8 & 1/4... 1/2, I get, but hadn't thought they'd be this varied, so I assumed I was doing it wrong like everything else. But, maybe they are. But I appreciate knowing this exact formula. I really appreciate it. :)
Huge help thanks. I'm buying my wife a ring for our 30th wedding anniversary but I want to keep it a surprise. I have a mandrel but I wasn't sure i were to take the measurement from the bottom, the top or in between. Now I know. I had no idea that the comfort fit and flat fit made a difference. Knowing this will give me a true reading. Thanks again and greetings from Scotland 👍
Thankyou so much easiest way of explaining ever I couldn't get to grips with were you read the size but that has helped me all other videos I couldnt understand and nice mandrel drop at the end LOL
Brilliant! You know, this is so simple once you understand it, but as a 100% novice, with no *algebra skills, I couldn't think of how to get the accurate measurement. Thanks a bunch! Particularly love the "mic" drop. 😎 * I'm such an idiot, I don't even know if algebra accurately describes the skill needed here. Numbers have hated me since we met. But at least I now know how to size a ring! (edited a typo)
I inherited an old steel mandrel similar to the one in the video. I need to know why the tool is shaped like it is. What is the big groove near the bottom used for? Why is there a depression in the bottom used for? Why is there a small square hole in the round hole in the bottom of the tool? Does that square hole have a purpose? And finally, how do I position the mandrel for use in a bench vise, to stabilize it for ring work?
@FriboLay: It is made of tool steel and is about 15" long. It is 1-1/4" wide at the base and 3/8" wide at the top. It is marked with Ring sizes around the circumference, from 0-16. My father taught himself silversmithing and jewelry making and had been a silver designer in the 40's and 50's. I had watched him making silver rings as a young child but wasn't interested in taking it up, while he was alive. He said it was a Ring Mandrel, and he was an Honest man.
Great video thank You, Could you please advise me how I would measure a ring which has a design on the front which has a height of 15mm (7.5mm each side of the central band) it tapers at the halfway to a 2mm band. When I put it on my mandrel the design at the front drops down and reads a size 10 but the back of the ring where the 2mm band sits is sitting at approx the 9.5 mark, so would this ring be a size 10 or 9.5 please. I would appreciate any advice you can offer, Thank You
Hi Gregg. That was great. Wondering, I've found when I make really wide rings the size is right at the top edge of the ring rather than middle or end. Imagining it on a mandrel as in your drawings. Is that what you've found?
Is the ring's inside surface (the part against the finger's skin) curved or flat? I'm having a hard time understanding how either one could result in the situation you describe.... unless the inside is really wonky. Rio Grande's graphics describe it perfectly.
Yes, however, it will depend on the size of the bezel setting, for example a large oval or asymmetrical bezel can come into contact with the mandrel before the ring shank fully seats on the mandrel this can affect an accurate measurement.
Does this mean, by turning the ring upside down and putting the ring back on the mandrel and re-malleting it, trueing it, can you read the measurement from the centre of the ring length/band, rather than the bottom edge of the ring when on the mandrel 😵💫😵💫 hope that makes sense😂..
Not exactly. The size on a comfort fit ring is at the center point of the ring. The ring mandrel contacts the ring at the tangent point which is larger than the actual size and not at the center point of the ring. Use a ring sizer in the same width of the ring you desire or try on rings until you find the one that fits and measure that ring with dial or digital calipers.
FINALLY someone who REALLY teaches you how to read mandrels!! People know that you drop a ring onto a mandrel to read the size. But which number is the correct size - the top, the bottom, or the middle number?? No one I've seen taught this except you!! You scratched my itch and probably a lot of other people's as well!!! Thank you thank you thank you!!
We are so glad this was helpful!
Drops the mandrel and walks off camera like a BOSS!
Thank you for the lesson.
Thanks, this clears up some issues! Also - loved the 'mandrel drop' at then end!
Perfect!!! Ok, first, mandrel drop, very nice!!!! And deserved because you just helped me so much!!
My mom gave me loads of my grandma's jewelry... she was a big lover of QVC, big! But once family had what they wanted, she wanted me to have the rest to sell, because I have some debilitating health issues that cost my husband a lot. My health insurance is as much as our house payment. But, I've held onto for many years because... I don't know, it made me feel bad to sell. I know, its what its for, but still felt bad.
But, like everyone, we lost everything as covid hit.. no work, and with my autoimmune diseases, it was hard to get anything. So, cards have been maxed, husband is working as hard as he can even though we're both older. But I had another surgery to give me back use of my arms. Need it on both, but started with the right since it was worst.... I will not get the left done. I had to completely relearn how to use my right arm and half my chest was numb yet on fire, and my right phrenic nerve was damaged, so my right side diaphragm is paralyzed and is up and has crushed my lung. We hoped it was temporary. Obviously I changed doctors. We've waited and done more tests and it's permanent as is the nerve damage in my neck arm and chest. So I will need another surgery .. but there's no fix. I will be renting oxygen equipment for the rest of my life and well as not help my husband with work or even regular household stuff. On top of new knees, rods in my back, RA and a ridiculous amount more.
Sorry I'm babbling.... but I'm losing it a bit, as is obvious. My husband even did a gofundme thing, which we've both been sick about because we know this is our problem. But... every day is something new. Car not working. Blah blah blah... we're selling what we can which now means the jewelry. I don't know know, I assume ebay. But I borrowed a mandrel so I'm trying, which my shaky hands don't like, to find the sizes of many many rings. It's a very heavy mandrel, and hard to see numbers. I figure I should take a photo of the ring on the mandrel so they see the size. But, I don't know.
Sorry, I'm having a hard time with all this, so I'm apparently writing as I'm worrying, which means it's too much.
I apologize for the babbling.
But, thank you so much for your perfect way of explaining how to best use it.
I am surprised when I'm seeing so many be odd sizes like 7 & 3/4 .. or 8 & 1/4... 1/2, I get, but hadn't thought they'd be this varied, so I assumed I was doing it wrong like everything else. But, maybe they are.
But I appreciate knowing this exact formula.
I really appreciate it. :)
Huge help thanks. I'm buying my wife a ring for our 30th wedding anniversary but I want to keep it a surprise. I have a mandrel but I wasn't sure i were to take the measurement from the bottom, the top or in between. Now I know. I had no idea that the comfort fit and flat fit made a difference. Knowing this will give me a true reading. Thanks again and greetings from Scotland 👍
Jewelers can stretch or shrink it if it doesn't fit. Happy Anniversary
@@Elle-gc6fh : Curious... how does on shrink a ring? Or does it involve melting the band somehow? I'm a bit clueless here.
Oh shyt.... and he dropped it like a mic towards the end! 😂 He is too cool for school! Love the video!
Great info, thanks! Loved the “ mic drop!”
Thank you!
I'm trying to be honest and accurate in my listings for jewelry, and this helps a lot, thank you.
We are so glad you found the video helpful! ☺
Just a quick note to thank you for thinking of the quality of your work. It's appreciated more than you know!
So glad this is the first result on Google, the cross section diagrams are super helpful!
Thankyou so much easiest way of explaining ever I couldn't get to grips with were you read the size but that has helped me all other videos I couldnt understand and nice mandrel drop at the end LOL
You are welcome!
Thanks for the great info - and the mandrel drop ... hilarious!
This was the clearest I've seen this explained and I return to it often :D
Thank you!
VIDEO OF THE YEAR!! 🏆
That was so needed! Thank you
Brilliant!
You know, this is so simple once you understand it, but as a 100% novice, with no *algebra skills, I couldn't think of how to get the accurate measurement.
Thanks a bunch! Particularly love the "mic" drop. 😎
* I'm such an idiot, I don't even know if algebra accurately describes the skill needed here. Numbers have hated me since we met. But at least I now know how to size a ring!
(edited a typo)
So helpful! Very clear and precise. Appreciate.
Thank you for the kind feedback!
Thanks for the info on how to read a ring mandrel.
Thank you. Exactly what I needed to know, and you made it interesting.
The details make the difference.
Wow informative easy & concise! Drop the mandrel!!
Very interesting thank you Rio Grande.
Thanks! Clear and easy and friendly topped off with humor. What more you want? ♥️😀👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
very helpful!! Thanks for making the video.
Great video. Thank you!
Very helpful. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing
I inherited an old steel mandrel similar to the one in the video. I need to know why the tool is shaped like it is. What is the big groove near the bottom used for? Why is there a depression in the bottom used for? Why is there a small square hole in the round hole in the bottom of the tool? Does that square hole have a purpose? And finally, how do I position the mandrel for use in a bench vise, to stabilize it for ring work?
That may not be a mandrel you inherited...did you find it in a bed side drawer? What's it smell like?
@FriboLay: It is made of tool steel and is about 15" long. It is 1-1/4" wide at the base and 3/8" wide at the top. It is marked with Ring sizes around the circumference, from 0-16. My father taught himself silversmithing and jewelry making and had been a silver designer in the 40's and 50's. I had watched him making silver rings as a young child but wasn't interested in taking it up, while he was alive. He said it was a Ring Mandrel, and he was an Honest man.
Ahh!! good to know, thank you
Hahaha! Loved the mandrel drop
Thanks, never knew that, I always called it in the middle....
Thank you!!!
thank you
Big help thanks
Great video thank You, Could you please advise me how I would measure a ring which has a design on the front which has a height of 15mm (7.5mm each side of the central band) it tapers at the halfway to a 2mm band. When I put it on my mandrel the design at the front drops down and reads a size 10 but the back of the ring where the 2mm band sits is sitting at approx the 9.5 mark, so would this ring be a size 10 or 9.5 please. I would appreciate any advice you can offer, Thank You
Aaaahhhhhhhh!!! Hahaha! This clears it up! Thanks!
Hi Gregg. That was great. Wondering, I've found when I make really wide rings the size is right at the top edge of the ring rather than middle or end. Imagining it on a mandrel as in your drawings. Is that what you've found?
Is the ring's inside surface (the part against the finger's skin) curved or flat? I'm having a hard time understanding how either one could result in the situation you describe.... unless the inside is really wonky. Rio Grande's graphics describe it perfectly.
Thanks!
Thanks
Does the same apply if the ring has a flat back?
Yes, however, it will depend on the size of the bezel setting, for example a large oval or asymmetrical bezel can come into contact with the mandrel before the ring shank fully seats on the mandrel this can affect an accurate measurement.
how to make, solder gold, silver different brands. thank you
Thank u
What about a hollow ring? A bigger statement ring with hollow inside?
Does this mean, by turning the ring upside down and putting the ring back on the mandrel and re-malleting it, trueing it, can you read the measurement from the centre of the ring length/band, rather than the bottom edge of the ring when on the mandrel 😵💫😵💫 hope that makes sense😂..
Can you use a steel mandrel to tap on?
Yes you can. The mandrel used in this video is made of steel.
@@RioGrande1944 thank you.
Just read you measure at top of ring?
Not exactly.
The size on a comfort fit ring is at the center point of the ring.
The ring mandrel contacts the ring at the tangent point which is larger than the actual size and not at the center point of the ring.
Use a ring sizer in the same width of the ring you desire or try on rings until you find the one that fits and measure that ring with dial or digital calipers.
Mine has another side of larger numbers.. Why?
You basically displayed both types being read the same way???
Hi
I love your channel, but I don't understand anything, and I also can't speak English fluently
Bro did NOT just mic drop the mandrel 😭😭
Thanks
Great video, thank you!