It was not their force of will, not their void develry, not their alien darkness, it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelikt horror they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing, and take away its pain.
Those people that just wanted a fist clash shows how much our society needs some love, the story shows what absence of love does, but also, that love can heal.
honestly, it was the first time i was controlling a massive humanoid, i was really expecting it to be a fist clash and something cool rather than gay love.
@@dev4159 it wasnt "gay love", but I wont even try to explain to you, just go back and eatch the dialogues of the whole Man in the Wall plotline again.
There is an important point people seem to be missing here: The Man in the Wall (aka The Indifference) takes the role of a omnipotent/omnipresent entity that is, as the name sugests, indifferent to what is happening. It does not care for pain or love. Now, one thing you might not know is that the oposite of love is not hate, its indifference. The oposite of hate is indifference. Actuallly, the oposite of any emotion is indifference - such is its power. Indifference is the abscence - its the void - of emotions. This is why Warframe devs have been focusing on the interaction between emotions and the void, be it with Rell's autistic limitations for comprehending emotions, Citrine's backstory or, in this case, Loid's love for Albrecht. The only thing oposing the indifference of the void is emotions, be they good or bad. This is why you can also notice this brutallist + steampunk ambients. Rocks and metal don't have emotions. There are no humans here. It lacks emotion. It is filled with void. The chants translate a rustic feeling, almost like all of this was forgotten by time. Whoever took care of this place became indifferent to it.
one thing i noticed, is that everyone has their own personal void too, a void in their heart. Albrecht was his own failure, the Operator (not the tenno as a whole) was losing their family, Umbra and his son, the lotus and her inability to bear children, Loid's was Albrecht. Even Ballas in a sense has one in Marguilis and his own horrific nature. The Void is as ever-present in narrative as it is in lore. this is where the doppelgangers seem to come from- a reflection of your troubled soul as it were, and a reminder of the Operator's true power. "And it was not their force of will - not their Void devilry - not their alien darkness... it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing-- And take away its pain "
mostly i agree, except with the lack of humans = lack of emotion. emotions are much older than humans, theyre instincts we inherited from the animals that come before us.
Unexpected without greater context, but I will say voidtongue sung as a heavenly choir as opposed to the typical Mongolian throat singing was a far more welcome surprise
It's interesting that the Indifference is nothing, as it is the Void, but it becomes whatever it wants to take/destroy. It became Albrecht, it became Rell, it becomes you. It has no self, and when it copies or gains "self", it tries to destroy it. The Indifference is self-destructive, so by reminding ourselves of love, for ourselves and for those we care about, we hold it at bay.
@@shotgun6X same, but also i truly can't comprehend why someone like the guy above you coming to an entire video of this cutscene just to say "cringe". i swear these people really do go out of their way to be pissed off then make it everyone else's problem
Can he? He seems to have felt some sort of impatience at some points, like in the beginning of the quest, when the Operator enters the labs for the first time. I think he's starting to lose control
@@bravgji He has actually gotten more powerful since ballas opened that void portal Without us he has no way to find Albrecht, so we are immune to him until then
@YOURteacher_100 I was making an analogy with Bob Marley and referring to his calm and pacifist nature not on the fact you said.My bad should have specified it .
The best part is one of the creatures even goes further enough to think that void entity just wants company like i love his little theory cuz thinking of it void as name suggest is without nothing so it would want something in its life
This, and what Tagfer said about the Man in the Wall, really makes me feel like we could resolve this whole conflict by simply inviting Wally onboard our orbiter, to play Ludoplex and eat popcorn together. It feels like they're a newborn child to our kind of existence, like a child raised by wolves, and they don't know how to reconcile the newfound feeling of loneliness, or how to ask for our attention in a civil way. Wally reaches out in a way that they don't realize is destructive, because they don't understand.
From time to time i come back to appreciate this sequence, and i cry every single time. We all were waiting for a clash, to see force being stopped by force. But instead, you only see a tender touch. You see what some love, care, and sincerity can do. The vessel shows that is ashamed that such rage, hatred and violence has inhabit its being, and that it was willing to destroy in order to unleash what it felt as right. That touch makes it even pull towards our hand, because for what its worth, that was the first time it was feeling that someone did care. Perhaps im looking too much into it, perhaps its because i just feel that way, but life will be more boring if we didnt take the time to do this kind of stuff. Looking more deeply into what feels right
This quest was beyond beautiful. I remember really wanting to see a fight between the two vessels but looking back, this is much better and more unexpected. I really hope that we get more of Loid and the Cavia in future quests.
Just to say it, because i read it so many times. There is nothing gay about compassion. You were a kid once. When you fell and busted open your knee or face, your parents surely walked up to you and gave you exactly that. Compassion. Trying to soothe you and make you feel better. You can be the "superstraightest" guy on earth and compassion for others wouldn't make you gay. If anything it would show you having a incredibly strong and respectable personality.
@@finlaytemple1744 Point still stands. You do it out of compassion, not out of love. Unless of course you four yourself want to interpret it like that.
@Derethevil okay you clearly misunderstood this, we are fighting something called the "indifference" and in the famous words of Elie wiesel "the opposite of love is not hate, its indifference" notice how the entire quote this moment is foundationally built upon specifies love and not general compassion?
I just played this quest, I was expecting a sick void laser blast, when I saw this scene unfold it felt odd yet I imagined there was a deeper meaning, I love the way you guys put it, emotions against indifference and the power of the tenno coming from compasion rather than the void, there really is more to us the tenno than war and ripping people to bits
They are just vessels. If you go further and look up you'll see huge man in the wall face, indicating the entire lab is inside of man in the wall. I do have a video about that. But you can easily find it in game.
There will be a more direct confrontation you can count on that. The void isnt going to forgive the flaying of its flesh quite that easily. The next step is Tau.
Man i really wish they let us fight that giant man first, i mean thr whole rizzing up and emotional message could still work, just put it after the fight
Compassion, Compassion? from the slayers? tenno the void demons who slaughter thousands everyday to fill their armory with more weapons and armor seeking power and only power, from them, compassion?
Yeah, tenno will go be the kindest person imaginable one second, and next they turn around and massacre 100000 men and blow up 50 ships with thousands more in them for a chance at a few corrupted holokeys for a fancy new laser katana.
Mate, The Sacrifice basically shoves in your face how the Tenno being compassionate is the primary reason they were able to use the Warframes to begin with.
ive been out of warframe for QUITE some time, can someone explain to me what is happening? I care not for spoilers (as in spoil away) and had only played up to the new war. What are these titans? What is the implications of whats happening?
If you can, then play the game again. After new war , there is only Duviri quest you have to do for this quest. The story is actually getting interesting now. These Titans aren't fully implemented btw, for now all we have is assumptions.
I tried a while ago and i just.. couldnt. I couldnt handle what felt like a beginning to endless grinding again because I had reached the max of what I wanted from the game before leaving after new war (i made an almost unkillable rhino build with trumna as my main gun bc chonk) @@GamingDauG
@@throwitouttheairlock9556it’s pretty heavily open to interpretation but the general idea is Wally was utilizing Loid’s emotions here to power his assault. We took control of the other vessel and, instead of showing rage, chose to show compassion and took away Loid’s pain. This then left Wally powerless as the emotion he was feeding off of was quelled
The Vessels were made to fight the Man in the Wall in some way You go there because the Kalymos Sequence begins, a sequence started back when Albrecht Entrati (Think Grandfather) sent himself back to 1999 with the help of Original Loid. To fight back the Indifference/Man in the Wall, you fight not with fists and fury, but with Albrecht admitting how unworthy he was of Loid's kindness and exposing himself vulnerably, alongside treating the vessel with a gesture of kindness. Showing compassion to quell the Indifference.
can i just say I think we all collectively thought we were going to do a titan sized fistfight at first. Still think I may have preferred that. Supposedly the one you control there is arthur and the other we don't even know so i'm not sure what the point of the gesture is other than to loid. Honestly I considered the other giant to be fully controlled by the man in the wall so im confused as to why it just calmed down
WARNING, SMALL TANGENT Many have stated that the opposite of indifference is love. Wally is a Lovecraftian entity, it has nothing but indifference. Like a man looking down on ants, he doesn't care. But to see us for the first time, Wally most likely felt indifferent, but jealous, envious. My opinion at least And interacting with us, it was curious, is wanted us, Earth, other people than itself. It was lonely. Oher people may speculate that it wanted us because it's never seen anything else. It lives in the Void. Where there's nothing. The reason why the giant went still, is because we used Loid's memory of when he had to banish Albrecht. Loid at that moment, in that memory, felt love. The opposite of indifference, is love. Wally felt love. And it shook him to his core. And if you go to the giants chest, it's heart is beating, it's still alive. Wally filled the giant with indifference, we filled it with something else, but Wally left it behind, going back to the other giant he possessed as a retreat. That's my analysis at least. The whole games story is pointing to family, love, hate, emotions and connections. It wouldn't be surprising to see Wally be the manifestion of an absence of those things. The system has been overtaken by war, each faction hateful and indifferent to eachothers faults and suffering. Hell, there are Grineer that have plushies and Corpus that are sick of the hyper corporatism. The Tenno are trying to fight that by trying to beat the leaders and protect the people, and also by trying to heal indifference itself.
See how Loid reacts after the two vessels interact. The Indifference/Wally may have been powered by Loid's own indifference - until now he has been arrogant or ignorant, but after that cutscene he even calls the Operator, Operator
The tenno's compassion is the answer against the indifference of the void, you saw it with Umbra, you saw it with Dominus Thrax and we are seeing it here.
@@GamingDauGjust saying. That outfit, it was clear he was a gay. Why is anyone surprised? Especially in this creepy old gay people sex era of games. Look at Saint and Osiris from D2. Two straight men turned an old gay fetish.
Actually, I was left kind of dissertation here. I was expecting a battle between 2 vessels. Not this show of kindness. Overall great story mode though.
The tenno's compassion is the answer against the indifference of the void, you saw it with Umbra, you saw it with Dominus Thrax and we are seeing it here.
@vazzmatazz I have been playing since the beginning. (2012). I couldn't care about the story. I've always loved gameplay and farming, and slowly overtime they add quest to progress with anything. I skip all fhe cutscenes and rush through the quests so I can back to what I enjoy.
@@Warlord97.Just shut up already with internalized this, internalized that, mambo jambo words. People don't hate gay people or lesbians, in this case game characters just for being that. They hate it when they're poorly done and just put in the game just to be there. Loid and Albrecth were extremely well done, good backstory, stellar voice acting, etc. Varzia on the other hand...nah
@@95freakout lol I so wish that were true, but clearly this guy does considering he thinks it's overplayed even when it factually isn't. Personally I think it was well written and vague enough to keep you wondering, but to each their own.
This "gay display" was extremely tame, my guy. Holy shit cool down. That caress could have been familial or bromance or whatever. People need to chill.
@@Warlord97. It was stellary done, it got me teary eyed for fucks sake. Nobody hates anyone for what they are but every apple basket has their rotten apples.
[Giving fans a good cosmic horror questline for the man in the wall] DE: Naahh [Make Albert Entari gay and also make the whole quest about gay love, nothing but gay love and make the man in a wall a gay joke] DE: Yes , yeeh . We have made a masterpiece
1. Albert is definitely bi, going by the fact Daughter, Son and Mother exist. 2. The whole "To Takes Its Pain Away" was a big thing in WF lore for a loooooooooong time. Margulis to Zariman survivors, Tenno to Warframes...
Read the fucking room, The Indifference still is the eldrich menace that it was promised, but I suppose flashing lights is all your monkey brain can process so you mock everything that isn't. The opposite of indifference is emotion, and Loid's own lack of empathy was what the entity was feeding from, while the Tenno didn't understand what Loid needed, they understood what was needed to cut the strands of Khra: Love. But It's not 9999999! of crit so you wouldn't get shit.
The tenno's compassion is the answer against the indifference of the void, you saw it with Umbra, you saw it with Dominus Thrax and we are seeing it here.
It seems someone doesn‘t know 1. Social norms and structure between servants and masters in ancient times 2. That being supportive isn‘t gay 3. That subversion is one of the greatest arts in writing
@@twilightofapprentice8280The tenno's compassion is the answer against the indifference of the void, you saw it with Umbra, you saw it with Dominus Thrax and we are seeing it here.
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It was not their force of will, not their void develry, not their alien darkness, it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelikt horror they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing, and take away its pain.
It's good to see somebody else who has paid attention to the deep lore and understands.
@crazyscalie5312 the people who are saying the theme of wiitw doesn't fit warframe seem to have forgot the whole point of the sacrifice and beyond
@@vaubanmain agreed
Those people that just wanted a fist clash shows how much our society needs some love, the story shows what absence of love does, but also, that love can heal.
Tagfer in other words
this was gay as fuck
honestly, it was the first time i was controlling a massive humanoid, i was really expecting it to be a fist clash and something cool rather than gay love.
@@dev4159 it wasnt "gay love", but I wont even try to explain to you, just go back and eatch the dialogues of the whole Man in the Wall plotline again.
There is an important point people seem to be missing here: The Man in the Wall (aka The Indifference) takes the role of a omnipotent/omnipresent entity that is, as the name sugests, indifferent to what is happening. It does not care for pain or love.
Now, one thing you might not know is that the oposite of love is not hate, its indifference. The oposite of hate is indifference. Actuallly, the oposite of any emotion is indifference - such is its power. Indifference is the abscence - its the void - of emotions.
This is why Warframe devs have been focusing on the interaction between emotions and the void, be it with Rell's autistic limitations for comprehending emotions, Citrine's backstory or, in this case, Loid's love for Albrecht.
The only thing oposing the indifference of the void is emotions, be they good or bad. This is why you can also notice this brutallist + steampunk ambients. Rocks and metal don't have emotions. There are no humans here. It lacks emotion. It is filled with void.
The chants translate a rustic feeling, almost like all of this was forgotten by time. Whoever took care of this place became indifferent to it.
one thing i noticed, is that everyone has their own personal void too, a void in their heart. Albrecht was his own failure, the Operator (not the tenno as a whole) was losing their family, Umbra and his son, the lotus and her inability to bear children, Loid's was Albrecht. Even Ballas in a sense has one in Marguilis and his own horrific nature. The Void is as ever-present in narrative as it is in lore.
this is where the doppelgangers seem to come from- a reflection of your troubled soul as it were, and a reminder of the Operator's true power. "And it was not their force of will - not their Void devilry - not their alien darkness... it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing-- And take away its pain "
I concur
mostly i agree, except with the lack of humans = lack of emotion. emotions are much older than humans, theyre instincts we inherited from the animals that come before us.
I think this dude needs to re-check what's oposite really means, he's entire argument was based on a false afirmation.
@@youknowwho257 Enlighten me then. What is the oposite of emotions?
Unexpected without greater context, but I will say voidtongue sung as a heavenly choir as opposed to the typical Mongolian throat singing was a far more welcome surprise
i was not expecting him to wipe tears.. This scene was epic!
It's interesting that the Indifference is nothing, as it is the Void, but it becomes whatever it wants to take/destroy. It became Albrecht, it became Rell, it becomes you.
It has no self, and when it copies or gains "self", it tries to destroy it. The Indifference is self-destructive, so by reminding ourselves of love, for ourselves and for those we care about, we hold it at bay.
"I won't let you take me... from me.", to quote Wally-Rell
With welling tears in my eyes i point and whisper "gay."
I'm just cringing past the cinematics to hurrh it up so i can get past the ghe plot and get back to farming and grinding lol
@@zerosaber257can't relate at all, i LOVE warframe plot
@@shotgun6X same, but also i truly can't comprehend why someone like the guy above you coming to an entire video of this cutscene just to say "cringe". i swear these people really do go out of their way to be pissed off then make it everyone else's problem
This is a good reminder that wally can take away our power whenever he wants, but he enjoys the game
Can he? He seems to have felt some sort of impatience at some points, like in the beginning of the quest, when the Operator enters the labs for the first time. I think he's starting to lose control
@@bravgji He has actually gotten more powerful since ballas opened that void portal
Without us he has no way to find Albrecht, so we are immune to him until then
Brother this is a game we want to have fun not to become Bob Marley,wake the f up
@@antigonus1161 what are you talking about, when did anyone mention being a wife beater
@YOURteacher_100 I was making an analogy with Bob Marley and referring to his calm and pacifist nature not on the fact you said.My bad should have specified it .
The best part is one of the creatures even goes further enough to think that void entity just wants company like i love his little theory cuz thinking of it void as name suggest is without nothing so it would want something in its life
the ''this is what you are'' motif playing at 0:35 when your frame gets blown away and the tenno stands there is a nice detail
0:36 that tenno leitmotif holy cow
Wow i didn't notice this until you pointed it out... THANK YOU
This, and what Tagfer said about the Man in the Wall, really makes me feel like we could resolve this whole conflict by simply inviting Wally onboard our orbiter, to play Ludoplex and eat popcorn together. It feels like they're a newborn child to our kind of existence, like a child raised by wolves, and they don't know how to reconcile the newfound feeling of loneliness, or how to ask for our attention in a civil way. Wally reaches out in a way that they don't realize is destructive, because they don't understand.
Wally really isn't looking for love though, the reason this stopped him is because it's the opposite of all he is
From time to time i come back to appreciate this sequence, and i cry every single time. We all were waiting for a clash, to see force being stopped by force. But instead, you only see a tender touch. You see what some love, care, and sincerity can do. The vessel shows that is ashamed that such rage, hatred and violence has inhabit its being, and that it was willing to destroy in order to unleash what it felt as right. That touch makes it even pull towards our hand, because for what its worth, that was the first time it was feeling that someone did care. Perhaps im looking too much into it, perhaps its because i just feel that way, but life will be more boring if we didnt take the time to do this kind of stuff. Looking more deeply into what feels right
10/10 I cried man this was amazing and stunning ending also thanks for the vid I rewatched this more than once
Yea I legit had goosebumps.. mainly because of the music it's so good
This quest was beyond beautiful. I remember really wanting to see a fight between the two vessels but looking back, this is much better and more unexpected. I really hope that we get more of Loid and the Cavia in future quests.
1:43 you can actually see the eyes changing from black to normal
I wanted to hug loid so much! 😭
I hope we can somehow bring Albrecht back to him after pushing the man in the wall away from them
Tagfer after we bring albrecht back to present: SURPRISE MADAFAKA!!!
Love that the button that you have to hold for this sequence is the "melee" button. Nice subversion of expectations
Just to say it, because i read it so many times.
There is nothing gay about compassion.
You were a kid once. When you fell and busted open your knee or face, your parents surely walked up to you and gave you exactly that. Compassion.
Trying to soothe you and make you feel better.
You can be the "superstraightest" guy on earth and compassion for others wouldn't make you gay. If anything it would show you having a incredibly strong and respectable personality.
Yeah, but Loid was Very much in love
@@shotgun6X But you weren't. You after all wiped his tear away at this scene. Unless you got some hidden, lurking feelings for Loid?
@Derethevil yeah but we are reenacting that moment of love, through Albert's words of love in the grimore
@@finlaytemple1744 Point still stands. You do it out of compassion, not out of love. Unless of course you four yourself want to interpret it like that.
@Derethevil okay you clearly misunderstood this, we are fighting something called the "indifference" and in the famous words of Elie wiesel "the opposite of love is not hate, its indifference" notice how the entire quote this moment is foundationally built upon specifies love and not general compassion?
I like how our Tenno gets yeeted out of the warframe so if you have Umbra equiped he just watched you as he gets launched back
Umbra be like: Lmao bye
OLD MEN YAOI OLD MEN YAOI I LOVE THIS QUEST
I cried for more than an hour after this.
Ah yes, the game about killing thousand dudes per second is gonna rob me of a kaiju fight to teach me about compassion. You love to see it.
TBF, compassion's how Operator drives the murdermachines that're designed to kill thousand dudes per second.
I just played this quest, I was expecting a sick void laser blast, when I saw this scene unfold it felt odd yet I imagined there was a deeper meaning, I love the way you guys put it, emotions against indifference and the power of the tenno coming from compasion rather than the void, there really is more to us the tenno than war and ripping people to bits
When I saw during my gameplay I thought I was gonna fight the man in the wall but I was not expecting that
They are just vessels. If you go further and look up you'll see huge man in the wall face, indicating the entire lab is inside of man in the wall. I do have a video about that. But you can easily find it in game.
Okay thanks for reminding me that
There will be a more direct confrontation you can count on that. The void isnt going to forgive the flaying of its flesh quite that easily. The next step is Tau.
1:41 best part
and 1:51 is just a powerful piece of scenary.
Get the n the vessel, Tenno!
Will we be able to replay this bad ass jorney in the future?
They do make quests replay-able later on.
@@GamingDauG thanks
It's assbandit not bad ass
@@zerosaber257 say that for your self one of the most important journeys in lore
@@GamingDauGyou can now
Man i really wish they let us fight that giant man first, i mean thr whole rizzing up and emotional message could still work, just put it after the fight
It would make zero sense and hold no weight if it came after a fight tho
But we did get to fight the giant rock boss, no?
Compassion,
Compassion?
from the slayers? tenno the void demons who slaughter thousands everyday to fill their armory with more weapons and armor seeking power and only power,
from them,
compassion?
Yeah, tenno will go be the kindest person imaginable one second, and next they turn around and massacre 100000 men and blow up 50 ships with thousands more in them for a chance at a few corrupted holokeys for a fancy new laser katana.
Mate, The Sacrifice basically shoves in your face how the Tenno being compassionate is the primary reason they were able to use the Warframes to begin with.
Guys, I think this is Ballas
Orokin propaganda
I wish we could do this quest again
This was sooo crazy
I gotta say, I was never expecting to encounter a gay QTE
Neat.
It's not always about the war
we are just coming from one
frame
@@crutonman1547 lol XD
@@3266393The Tenno are a war
ive been out of warframe for QUITE some time, can someone explain to me what is happening? I care not for spoilers (as in spoil away) and had only played up to the new war. What are these titans? What is the implications of whats happening?
If you can, then play the game again. After new war , there is only Duviri quest you have to do for this quest. The story is actually getting interesting now. These Titans aren't fully implemented btw, for now all we have is assumptions.
I tried a while ago and i just.. couldnt. I couldnt handle what felt like a beginning to endless grinding again because I had reached the max of what I wanted from the game before leaving after new war (i made an almost unkillable rhino build with trumna as my main gun bc chonk)
@@GamingDauG
@@throwitouttheairlock9556it’s pretty heavily open to interpretation but the general idea is Wally was utilizing Loid’s emotions here to power his assault. We took control of the other vessel and, instead of showing rage, chose to show compassion and took away Loid’s pain. This then left Wally powerless as the emotion he was feeding off of was quelled
me who have finish all quest except yereli cause i suck at k-drive.......i have no fkn idea :)
The Vessels were made to fight the Man in the Wall in some way
You go there because the Kalymos Sequence begins, a sequence started back when Albrecht Entrati (Think Grandfather) sent himself back to 1999 with the help of Original Loid.
To fight back the Indifference/Man in the Wall, you fight not with fists and fury, but with Albrecht admitting how unworthy he was of Loid's kindness and exposing himself vulnerably, alongside treating the vessel with a gesture of kindness. Showing compassion to quell the Indifference.
can i just say I think we all collectively thought we were going to do a titan sized fistfight at first. Still think I may have preferred that. Supposedly the one you control there is arthur and the other we don't even know so i'm not sure what the point of the gesture is other than to loid. Honestly I considered the other giant to be fully controlled by the man in the wall so im confused as to why it just calmed down
WARNING, SMALL TANGENT
Many have stated that the opposite of indifference is love. Wally is a Lovecraftian entity, it has nothing but indifference. Like a man looking down on ants, he doesn't care.
But to see us for the first time, Wally most likely felt indifferent, but jealous, envious. My opinion at least
And interacting with us, it was curious, is wanted us, Earth, other people than itself. It was lonely.
Oher people may speculate that it wanted us because it's never seen anything else. It lives in the Void. Where there's nothing.
The reason why the giant went still, is because we used Loid's memory of when he had to banish Albrecht.
Loid at that moment, in that memory, felt love. The opposite of indifference, is love.
Wally felt love. And it shook him to his core. And if you go to the giants chest, it's heart is beating, it's still alive.
Wally filled the giant with indifference, we filled it with something else, but Wally left it behind, going back to the other giant he possessed as a retreat.
That's my analysis at least.
The whole games story is pointing to family, love, hate, emotions and connections. It wouldn't be surprising to see Wally be the manifestion of an absence of those things.
The system has been overtaken by war, each faction hateful and indifferent to eachothers faults and suffering. Hell, there are Grineer that have plushies and Corpus that are sick of the hyper corporatism.
The Tenno are trying to fight that by trying to beat the leaders and protect the people, and also by trying to heal indifference itself.
See how Loid reacts after the two vessels interact. The Indifference/Wally may have been powered by Loid's own indifference - until now he has been arrogant or ignorant, but after that cutscene he even calls the Operator, Operator
I would have preferred to beat the ghe out of koid
i love the gay time travelers sm
Why are you ghe
turns out the key to defeat the man in the wall is old man yaoi
Yes
Too gay, too much cringe to enjoy the story
@@zerosaber257its okay to have bad taste in media
@@averagemordhauplayer4821 not even that, he's just a homophobe
@@zerosaber257 Counter argument: not enough gay
Everybody's been praising this, but I did not get anything at all. So gayness was the solution to the invading Murmurs?
It's a prologue quest for 1999, the August quest might give more answers.
The tenno's compassion is the answer against the indifference of the void, you saw it with Umbra, you saw it with Dominus Thrax and we are seeing it here.
We are fighting the indifference and "the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference", it cannot comprehend its opposite
Loid is Gay
Yea.. we could finally had a proper female character if they just made loid a women.
@@GamingDauG Agree decent gay character
@@GamingDauG girl half the entire game centers around the lotus. you're just mad the most affecting love story in the game is between two men.
@@GamingDauGr34 artists - very well
@@GamingDauGjust saying. That outfit, it was clear he was a gay. Why is anyone surprised?
Especially in this creepy old gay people sex era of games.
Look at Saint and Osiris from D2. Two straight men turned an old gay fetish.
that was pretty gay
That’s what I said when this happend I thought he was gonna blast his ass then I was like “damn bruh you gay as shit get me outta here”
I know, isn't it great?
Nah, it was just emotional support. Stop being homophobic, especially against something that isn‘t even gay.
@@nolram you comment your bullshit everywhere it seems damn nerd close your mouth
it was def gay. @@nolram
Actually, I was left kind of dissertation here. I was expecting a battle between 2 vessels. Not this show of kindness. Overall great story mode though.
* disappointed
It's a buildup for warframe 1999. Assuming that quest is going to be bigger just like new war.
how awful it would be to be the kind of person who's disappointed by this scene
The tenno's compassion is the answer against the indifference of the void, you saw it with Umbra, you saw it with Dominus Thrax and we are seeing it here.
Gay qte
Eidolon true form
this quest was so epic, until the gay shit blew in my face... ffs
It's still epic. Your bigotry is what's stopping you from enjoying things. Shame and embarrassing.
British cigarette scene lolxd lolxd
That's kinda gay
gay
don't project your loveless childhood full of daddy issues onto everything else.
@@livery955 gay
@@livery955take your gay shit outta here bro hope there's no gay moment when they drop 1999
@@livery955 gay
gay@@livery955
I skip all cutscenes in the gane.
lol man got no time to waste 😆
do u know who's Lotus?
that's like watching a movie with the sound off and the screen off just to eat popcorn
@vazzmatazz I have been playing since the beginning. (2012).
I couldn't care about the story. I've always loved gameplay and farming, and slowly overtime they add quest to progress with anything. I skip all fhe cutscenes and rush through the quests so I can back to what I enjoy.
@@baileycampbell fair enough and if it is what you want what gives, keep the good farm mate
The gayness is so over played in this day and age.
Though I’ll admit, human touch is very important between people.
It really isn't, that's just your internalized homophobia speaking. More gayness would be welcoming for most people.
@@Warlord97.Just shut up already with internalized this, internalized that, mambo jambo words. People don't hate gay people or lesbians, in this case game characters just for being that. They hate it when they're poorly done and just put in the game just to be there. Loid and Albrecth were extremely well done, good backstory, stellar voice acting, etc. Varzia on the other hand...nah
@@95freakout lol I so wish that were true, but clearly this guy does considering he thinks it's overplayed even when it factually isn't. Personally I think it was well written and vague enough to keep you wondering, but to each their own.
This "gay display" was extremely tame, my guy. Holy shit cool down. That caress could have been familial or bromance or whatever. People need to chill.
@@Warlord97. It was stellary done, it got me teary eyed for fucks sake. Nobody hates anyone for what they are but every apple basket has their rotten apples.
[Giving fans a good cosmic horror questline for the man in the wall]
DE: Naahh
[Make Albert Entari gay and also make the whole quest about gay love, nothing but gay love and make the man in a wall a gay joke]
DE: Yes , yeeh . We have made a masterpiece
🎯🎯🎯
If the gameplay wasn't good enough and if i'm not addicted to farming and grinding i'd have left this game already
You must be one of those who think Death Stranding is about gun control.
1. Albert is definitely bi, going by the fact Daughter, Son and Mother exist.
2. The whole "To Takes Its Pain Away" was a big thing in WF lore for a loooooooooong time. Margulis to Zariman survivors, Tenno to Warframes...
Read the fucking room, The Indifference still is the eldrich menace that it was promised, but I suppose flashing lights is all your monkey brain can process so you mock everything that isn't. The opposite of indifference is emotion, and Loid's own lack of empathy was what the entity was feeding from, while the Tenno didn't understand what Loid needed, they understood what was needed to cut the strands of Khra: Love.
But It's not 9999999! of crit so you wouldn't get shit.
Literally made no sense.
The fuck was this even about?
It was like a poorly written poem.
Indifference. That's literally the other name of the main antagonist
The tenno's compassion is the answer against the indifference of the void, you saw it with Umbra, you saw it with Dominus Thrax and we are seeing it here.
the quest was good till the moment the gay shit started
The gay shit...that was already hinted at heavily....AT THE BEGINNING OF THE QUEST???
sounds like you got triggered
It seems someone doesn‘t know
1. Social norms and structure between servants and masters in ancient times
2. That being supportive isn‘t gay
3. That subversion is one of the greatest arts in writing
Seems like you tend to get sensitive over trivial things.
@@nolramsupportive is one thing, whispers in the wall was designed with gay in mind is another
Such a lame cutscene makes no sense
It literally does if you look into the lore - and also real-world history.
someone did not pay attention to the lore
@@weedGato nah it doesn't make any sense plotline is to convoluted at this point and u being a white knight
@@twilightofapprentice8280You don't even give a great case there 'mate'.
@@twilightofapprentice8280The tenno's compassion is the answer against the indifference of the void, you saw it with Umbra, you saw it with Dominus Thrax and we are seeing it here.
Gheeeeyee!