Hoplites: The Greek Phalanx - Ancient History # 04 - See U in History
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- Hoplites: The Greek Phalanx - Ancient History
Wiki: The phalanx was a rectangular mass military formation, usually composed entirely of heavy infantry armed with spears, pikes, sarissas, or similar weapons.
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That time period of Greece was one of the coolest things to ever happen in Earth's history
Thermoplylae, Marathon, Theban Sacred Band, Phillip's Phalanx reforms, Alexander The Great, and everything in between.
The phalanx was basically the world's first main battle tank
Really more like an SPG because of the low mobility
@@dimitri_tsm The first tanks aren't exactly mobile also.
Without the cannon
This should have thousands of likes
No, it’s the first infantry formation doctrine
"left handed men were not allowed in a phalanx"
i think they were forced to learn being right handed
Or be in Light Infantry with light Armor, armed with either a Sling or a Javelin. That focuses on Fast movement and harassment.
Left handers were probably used as archers or slingers, depending on place or time
although our shield bash will be superb, our right hand spear will lack precision & strength.
Also left-handers could still use spears with their right hand and become hoplites regardless.
Classic teamwork
I'm left handed so I'm screwed no phalanx position for me
Lel
Well, you can always go for the rear guard or Cavalry.
dont worry by the time of Alexander the Great they make phalanx with only left handed
That will be very hard as right hands are dominant traits.
Learn to be right handed before you go into a phalanx position
Thank you, this really helped me with a history project
2:53 top right corner
I just saw that too. What's up with Dangerseal on horseback?
@@TreyDeuce109 gotta love those spicy memes
I see it too
It's from the Brazilian channel : Foca na História (a pun with the name Foca - Seal, and the word focar-focus)... they made this for their video
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who saw it
Five full Roman legions were wiped out by the Parthians, using higly mobile, horse mounted archers, who could also fire a parting arrow salvo. They were backed up by horse mounted cavalry and supply transport, also on horseback.
What, no mention of the importance of washboard abs?
We used the phalanx at momocon a few years ago during our medieval foam battle. we won, good times.😊
this made me giggle
Thanks buddy this helped me to prepare for a speech 😀✌️💚❤️
the legions weren't better than the phalanx, they had the ability to withstand in front of the phalanx until they could find a cap to gain the advantage, also they had the pillum that was a devastating weapon.The last line of the legion, the veteran triarii used to fight in phalanx formation...From the battles between Greeks and Romans, the difference was the ingenious and adaptive General and the smaller officers not the army.The element that changed the old warfare was the adoption of the Galatian Shield, this shield made the legions and every army of the Roman times to maintain greater mobility and use a larger and stronger sword(spathae or xiphos) instead of the gladius that was weak and could bend during a battle, the Galatian shield(thureos for the greeks), with small changes survived till the times of renaissance and was in use from every army since with small training you could have a good armed force to stand by your cavalry and against the enemy's...
Gladius was the most successful sword and the romans crushed the greeks and sparta with ease dont rewrite history just because you don’t agree with it
Romans allied with south greeks and fought against macedonians. Romans never fought against spartans, and they won against macedonians because the macedonian commander was an idiot! In a face to face battle the phalanx proved to be superior. Now when you let half your army be surrounded by the enemy you are going to loose no matter what formation you use.
@@americanpatriot3874 it appears you haven’t even read history
When the Romans first had an organised military, (kingdom era, when Servius Tullius came to power) the military was organised into 5 classes, which class you went to depended on your wealth. The 1st class were hoplites, and they used the Phalanx tactic. Below the 2nd class, it was all light infantry or skirmishers. So, despite making the phalanx obsolete, the Romans actually used the phalanx!
The best way to actually experience Greek Phalanx fighting is to play Offensive or Defensive line on a football team.
Narrator: the only thing that could battle a phalanx, was another phalanx
Roman Polybian legion: hold my beer
Whats up with the guy up in the right corner at 2:50?
No one tried Molotov cocktails?
Isn't that a copyright infringement?
The greeks lost against the Romans not because the Romans had better tactics but mostly because the greeks only managed to raise an army of 11.000 men while Rome had a bigger army
the Greeks would have won actually if their current leader wasn't incompetent.
Thats not true, there have been around six battles in which Roman legions fought greek phalanx and all were either Roman victories or inconclusive. Phalanx formation had major flaws. First phalanx could only be deployed on plain ground second it was extremely vulnerable at flanks. third it was extremely inflexible. Legion formation was much better than phalanx formation.
Adding on to your explanation, rome military had officers called centurions that were very experienced. Alexander the Great May have been a great military mind, but he can only command so much during a battle. With Rome’s system you have mini commanders leaders if 60 men and exploiting any openings without any confirmation from the general. This means Rome armies could react to any threat faster than any Greek army ever will using the phalanx.
It depends on what the definition of "Greek" you're talking about. The Dorians (Sparta/Corinth/Peloponnesians) and Ionians (Athens plus Asia Minor) were defeated by Philip of Macedon. Philip learned advanced phalanx tactics from the city state of Thebes (Thebes defeated Sparta at Leuctra and Sparta never recovered their full fighting force after this battle). By the time the Romans began to invade the Greek mainland, Sparta and Athens (weakened due to their defeat in the Peloponnesian Wars at the hands of Sparta) were already in major decline regarding military presence and power. I think it would be accurate to pit the Romans against Macedonian Pan Hellenism at this point in history. A lot of ancient Greek historians considered Macedon to be a barbaric nation and distanced themselves from other "non Greeks". The Romans therefore fought a conglomerate of loosely formed Macedonian controlled city states. There was no chance for the disjointed city states to respond effectively against the new emerging war machine of the Romans.
@@robertlee4209 Sparta could never recovered not because of Leuctra but because the massive earthquake decimated Spartan population killing over 20 000 people.
“You still use a phalanx? That is soooo 700 BC, get on my level with a legion”
Using in a public high school world history class today, thanks!
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See U in History / Mythology ya I have been watching for about a week and I thought I was subscribed but I wasn't so I did and I wanted to thank u bc there isn't really alot of channel that do Greek mythology and other stuff like that and I have 2 questions
1: what do u recommend for a book about this stuff
2: can u do a vid about wepons from this time and the god's wepons and symbles like Poisidens Trident
Had to give you a lot of confidence as well. You feel more powerful, and less likely to die, therefore, more effective.
Why does that guy on a horse have a seal's head?
It's from the Brazilian channel : Foca na História (a pun with the name Foca - Seal, and the word focar-focus)... they made this for their video
Military Industrial Complex.
Old concept still in effect.
Could u talk more about armor
I subscribe to the channel I like the video😍
Hay im new to the channel and wanted to know if you did a video on the ark of the covenant
Why there's a seal in on of the images?
You kept switching between pikes and dorus, a 2.5 meter spear
Wrong comparison. A legion is a strategic unit, like an army, while a phalanx is a tactical combat unit. Correct comparison was with a roman maniple. A legion contains many maniples, just as a greek army contains many phalanxes.
anyone notice the seal face in 2:52 at the top right corner?
Great discipline-formation !!! 🦾💪👊
I apply it in my Martial Art-daily wkouts !! ☝️💯🤜
Wow I didn't think left handedness got you out of the army
Samurai wouldn't stand a chance against these man
Not unless they retreat.
Ashigaru pikemen could probably do a lot of damage to them, Samurai are far more mobile so they may envelop the Greek Phalanx, unless it's a Macedonian Phalanx.
No Batusai will them all.
What is with this Japanese steel shite. Japan had crappy steel manufacturing until westerners came and taught them how to process steel properly. The katana wasn’T the sharpest blade and it definitely can’t cut through another sword
@Dork Born The Hellenes, especially the Spartans actually used steel weapons.
Then what is the difference between hoplite/phalanx and a Legion?
no. it isnt'.testudo is an anti-missile formation.
And - Citystatephalanx is not the same as hellenistic phalanx (no overlap, no pushingpower, left flank as vulnerable as the right one, different weapon with different grip...).
The Romans used the old citystatephalanx (triarii), combined light infantry (Hastati) and a new unit, basically an hypaspist with heavier armor, the principes (those could either fight in small tight cloe quarterformations allowing them to easily fall back while in melee (the quincux), form a shield wall, or advance in some kind of "open" phalanxformation (sholdiers arragned in lines, but no overlaping of the shield, - good for charging a citystatephalanx)).
those were abandoned later during the Marius reforms.
In short - the Roman Legion resembeld the citystatephalanx, sacrifising overlap andpushingcapabilities for tactical advantages (capable of retreat, more javelins, deeper armybuild, heavier armor (phalanxes tire fast)). in short - they took the really offensive phalanx and made it superdefensive and fast.
Both based at the beggining at shield wall and spears (pillum could be used as javelink too) and at sword battle at the second part of the battle, just hoplites theoritically was better at first part of battle (push with shield wall and spears) and legions little better at sword battle when soldiers fight 1v1 against the enemy after the shield wall of two enemies brake. But their skill was similar. Both have strenth and flexibility. Hoplites litle more streanth and Romans little more flexibility.
At the same time, romans use the phalanx too. The only difference was the length of the javelins. Like a more modified version of the phalanx .
Legion used to surround the enemy
i love history
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nice video, but I would suggest using better pictures that would be historically accurate, as some aren't.
Every one gangsta till my roman Boys appear
Thank you.
good
Who's the leader of the phalanx military?? It's for my assignment
Thanks from greece
2:56 strongest general in history is seal the great
Only recently he gained the recognition he deserved in history 😂
These Pictures are under licenses
nice
The real name of the Greeks is helin . Hellenic period is the greek period. By distinguishing them like different is false.
If this is _See U in History_ Ancient History #04. Where is SUiH AH #03?
Can you do Heracles?
soon
See U in History / Mythology You can keep Hercules for later. There are SO many RUclips videos and other media that speak of his adventures. I feel other topics in Greek Mythology needs more attention.
See U in History / Mythology can you do one about the titans
Ares hercules or herceles
who's win spartan vs Roman empire 🤔🤔🤔 comment please 🤔🤔👍
I personally think we need to go back to hand to hand combat vs guns. Let strength and tactic dictate who is victorious. Not who has bigger bombs or better guns. Just my honest opinion.
guns & bombs still have alot of room for skill
Man! What is wrong with that seal face?
35 kg = 77.16 pounds 🇺🇸
Thanks
I'd love to fight the Persians and all that, but unfortunately I'm left handed and will have to stay at home
that water mark is so annoying
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From thigh to neck Ephieltes
This formation can be used in hooligan group of 50 people
Its called a chestplate not chest armor.
And don't count M16 out, they can't stand my fart too 😂
The fact that citizens of Greeks before in ancient times, used to call them self a "hella" ...
What has the internet done to me,
I don't belong in this part of RUclips
And I am sorry for disturbing you guys, carry on.
Hella? what? You mean Hellena? (Έλληνα) (Unless it was a joke...then I give up)
Carthaginian war elefant. Life finds a way.
wow
Greeks *Forms Phalanx* We're impenetrable
Romans *Laughs*
Romans are Greeks too..😒
actually roman legions got rekt by phalanx, it was more a kin to russia vs germany 1940's where rome would just send army after army until greeks got rekt.
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Misconceptions:1) phalanx was not flexible : Phalanx was comprised from smaller units ,every unit :Lohos had a leader "Lohagos" (Captain) .they were able to run in full battle gear ,change front . Unfortunately truth is lost in the translation.. Ancient authors never mentioned any of these new theories like inflexibility, like hoplites can't fight out of phalanx formation or phalanx is helpless when formation disrupted on uneven ground and other nonsense... What authors said was: Phalanx perform superb in leveled ground , plananx isn't the same effective when hoplites loose formation but still a hoplite is well protected and trained to fight hand to hand combat (Hoplite equipment is versatile as a legioners equipment). Romans surpassed Greek military equipment in the first century AD... Prove that phalanx was ahead of its time is the Spanish tercios ,swiss equivalent that uses more than a milenia later. Even Romans never mentioned anything about lack of military skill of their Greek enemies ...But! They mentioned that they prevailed due to far superior logistics.!! And that's true ... Greeks were unable to replace their few expensive precious hoplites ,while Romans could replace armies in the blink of an aye .... Disaster after disaster that no other nation or empire could take it and Romans would just throw in the war another army or armies ...Of course Romans were a different enemy than any other and Greeks unknowledge it ..But it was too late.. when Romans lost this ability they collapsed (to creating well trained armies in limited time )...Don't forget that the Soviets T34 crushed the German Panzers which were more advanced ...but difficult to produce ..
I'm pretty sure they used javelins not spears but I might be thinking of something else... Roman maybe? I dunno.
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They’re not spheres. They’re spears. Stop calling them spheres you sound ridiculous.
and "calvary"
What about the Macedonian phalanx??
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Macedonia is Greece!!!!
No its not
@@isagjokaj795 Or is it?
*Vsauce apears on the back ground*
@احمد هاشم Well Done brother! They even call their language macedonian, which has nothing to do with greek that Alexander the Great spoke. Their arguments are so pathetic that I am bored to explain to the.
@@MyGreenpotato Alexander the great said it HIMSELF that macedonia is Greece and that macedonians are greeks and that he is greek! He said it HIMSELF many times! So Alexander the great knows better than you!!!
@@giannastavros4653 συμφωνώ μαζί σου αδερφέ! Που είπα το αντίθετο;
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Who Is here for mr balltezar class
Why do Americans have such a hard time pronouncing cavalry?
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Greek?!?!,don't you mean Macedonian?
1) The Macedonians were Greeks.
2) The phalanx was used since way before the time of Philip II and Alexander the Great.
Alexander the great said it HIMSELF that macedonia is Greece and that macedonians are greeks and that he is greek! He said it HIMSELF many times! So Alexander the great knows better than you!!!
Macedonian was the phalanx.
2:55 the person on the horse has a bog head
THE MACEDONIAN NEVER GREEK YOU ARE LYING.
Alexander the great said it HIMSELF that macedonia is Greece and that macedonians are greeks and that he is greek! He said it HIMSELF many times! So Alexander the great knows better than you!!!
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