A bunch of tutorials on The Yamaha EAD10 here (how to add 5 triggers, tuning & muffling of the drums, placement of drums and using “a shield”, pitching the samples in the EAD10 to work with your drums & lots of sound samples) ✌🏻🤩 ruclips.net/p/PLgbNYrZECAo0iOn6icrfP5P2rZo_4cPSy
Great video, I was just on a forum and people want to know if 2 EAD10 can be run as 1 , in parallel probably.......not sure ? Might have to connect them to a device because its stereo. It would have a great sound 2 in parallel as 1 unit. 1 on the bass drum , other above or to the side but i dont have even 1.
Thank you very much 👍🏻🤩 Well, I’ve never tried (I only have 1 EAD10). But I think that there could possibly be some phasing issues if you use 2 microphone-modules & 2 brain-modules. And you would in any case need to connect them to a computer and combine the two different sound sources into one track. This guy tried 2 microphone-modules through 1 brain-module, and that seems to work: ruclips.net/video/LjvsMnC7auU/видео.htmlsi=ySfTa6h7krbDYqZ4 Good luck ✌🏻😅🤩
Great video man! Could you record a video showing how to configure the sounds of each trigger in the yamaha ead10? I think it would help a lot of people!
Sure, great idea! I will look into it (shouldn’t be problem). I will probably go through all the configurations I’ve done, which is mainly what sounds/voices I have assigned and how I pitch each drum in the EAD10 to resemble the pitch of the actual drum. Apart from that I would highly recommend my other tutorials about tuning, dampening, shielding the microphones and placement of drums. Those things have a lot to do with a great sound with the EAD10 ✌🏻🤩
@@danielgoulart91 No, keep asking as long as you have questions. If I understand you correctly. Then yes. The “kick” and “snare” inputs on the EAD10 are the ones that have double-signals (stereo). So one Y-cable goes from the “kick input” on the EAD10 to two sources, in my case the kick and my right floor-tom (reason being is that they are close to each other). And the other Y-cable goes from the “snare-input” to my snare and my right rack-tom (again only because they are close to each other). The 5 & 6 inputs I then use with regular mono-cables for my left rack-tom and my left floor-tom. Did I answer your question? 😅
I was trying to buy this drums module but it has no sd card input so, it's a bit a mess since I wanna make my triggers hit sounding more like a real kick and snare
Well, I’m not sure I understand your problem. You can just use an USB-stick instead for bringing your own samples into the EAD10. Like this: ruclips.net/video/Ke5PO00l9Rg/видео.htmlsi=oHYLYOPDw9hTo83L Or am I missing something in your question? 😅
I'm glad to see a video like this. I'm wondering if I could connect the EAD to my interface as a stereo audio channel? I wonder how it would sound as room, or OH? Definitely sub, as I'd like to hear w/headphones
It’s has got stereo output, but through two separate outputs channels (left & right). And it could of course be used as room-microphones since it got two condenser microphones. With that you could also use the built in effects (different reverbs and delays etc). Word of advice is that it is quiet sensitive for bleed and feedback in a live situation from other instruments. And yes headphones can be connected, and is absolutely the way to go with the EAD10. Here’s an example. All the cymbals is just recorded with the mics in the EAD10: ruclips.net/user/shorts4QYisw0hWN8?feature=share
If I didn’t answer your questions then just ask again. However, if you only want to use the EAD10as overheads, then there probably better solutions out there. But as a combined full recording solution for a whole kit it’s great ✌🏻🤩
Would I be able to use a normal trigger like the dt50k bass drum trigger from Yamaha and basically replace the the actual mic/trigger that comes with the module? I want a bass drum trigger but I don’t want to spend more money on another module if I don’t have to. Thanks again!!
Hi there, follow up question: do you want to add a second bass drum or just replace the one that’s built into the microphones-attachment? I’ve never tried to replace the the bass drum trigger (since I don’t want to take away the microphone), so I can’t answer if that would work. But I don’t see the problem by adding an extra through one of the other ports. Unfortunately I don’t have a dt50k bass drum trigger (just have a bunch of the regular dt50 triggers) otherwise I would try it out for you 😅
@@flowerlandofjohn thanks for getting back to me! My plan was to replace the mic and just use the trigger because I already have drum mics but I think imma order it and try it but I love my ead10 and I use it for practice all the time.
@Jack Rolfsness Yeah, it’s a brilliant little machine for easy practice and for easy recordings and uploads 👍🏻 Have you tried to attach a regular (non bass drum trigger) to the port where the EAD10 microphone goes? In other words: is your your question if you can replace it at all or if you can replace it specifically with a bass drum trigger? I’m away from my drums right now, but I can probably try on Sunday to see what happens if you attach a regular trigger to that port ✌🏻
Why is the bass drum trigger multi zone to begin with? It doesn’t have two zones out of the box right? So why is that input stereo? I guess another way to ask the question is what am I losing by splitting the bass drum trigger?
Hmm, good question. I don’t now if it’s possible to use some kind of “multi-zone” for the kick. Nevertheless I am splitting that channel between the kick and a floor-tom, and that works great. But I don’t have an answer what one possible might lose by doing that. I’m will probably go to my drums later tonight. I will check and see I can get any wiser ✌🏻😅
Wow. Super helpful. I just bought a Yamaha DT-50K kick trigger. This is the only trigger I want for now. Only use one kick drum. I have the cable that came with the DT-50K. 1.) Which port on the back of the EAD10 do I plug it into? 2.) How do I set it up on the module where it recognizes the trigger and how do I assign and internal sound to the trigger. Just need a basic rundown of how to get the darn thing to work. I’m not doing something right because it’s not triggering. It’s a brand new trigger ordered directly from Yamaha too. Thank you so much man.
Hi There! First of all, one question: the EAD10 module has a built in kick-trigger, so why did you buy an extra kick-trigger? Regardless of answer I would connect it to port 5 or 6. Next step is to (in the trigger menu) choose what kind of trigger you have connected. The title is “pad type” and there you can toggle different triggers. Once it triggers it should appear on the display in the upper right corner as (Trg5) or (Trg6). And once it appears it’s the same for all triggers regarding choosing sounds (including the built in kick-trigger): 1. Strike the surface you want to work with. 2. Set trigger-volume (the 3rd knob 3. Chose voice/sound This tutorial might help, it kinda addresses some of your questions. If not, then just ask me again ✌🏻😅 ruclips.net/video/CcCjbKf_7M8/видео.htmlsi=VzbUX61JiYo8Qbkz
That answered my questions perfectly. Thanks so much for your help. Honestly, I just figured an external trigger might sound better for recording. Do you think the internal trigger is quality enough for recording? If so then I’ll just return this external one.
@@DrumN4Jesus Well, I can’t really see how another trigger would work (or sound better) then the built in one. I think great sound is more a matter of calibrating and choosing sound/samples. For better sound (and better control of the sound) I would however recommend adding triggers to all of the drums if you are to record with the EAD10 ✌🏻🤩
In my mind I guess I was just worried that the design on the ead10 internal trigger might not be as quality as an external Yamaha trigger. I’ve just seen others add an external kick trigger because they were having issues with the internal one not sounding/responding well. If you’ve had good luck with just the internal please tell me as I don’t want to waste money on unnecessary crap
Sorry, just saw this. Makes sense. Can you recommend some parameters then for the internal kick trigger please? What do I need to adjust to get a decent sound while recording?
Thank you! this I was searching for. I don't need the sound from the module, mostly I need the midi through USB to the DAW.... is it possible? do you think is it worthy? or better get an expensier Roland Drum module?
Sorry, but I don’t have the answer to any of those questions. I do not use a DAW (so I never used it for midi), and I know nothing about Roland drum modules. Hope you find the answers you are looking for, and again sorry that I couldn’t help you 😅✌🏻
@@flowerlandofjohn Thank you! I already have. I am going for this EAD10 and will add 2 triggers for the snare, 1 for kick and the other 3 for the main 2 toms and 1 f.loor tom.
You mean straight into the EAD10 brain-module? Might I ask why? I haven’t tried, but I’m afraid it’s built as one calibrated unit mic-module & brain. But by all means give it a try, but then I think you must send the signal to a computer for further calibration 😅 I would probably still recommend adding triggers for a more controlled sound and recording possibilities 👍🏻
You can check any of my videos on my homepage for sound demo like this one: ruclips.net/user/shorts4QYisw0hWN8?si=p6jmvhiyAGemYVKH But here’s also one that I just recorded (without also using the video function): ruclips.net/video/SHOlbSl1qtg/видео.htmlsi=LgsyX3B8Mvcq_Egw
@@flowerlandofjohn I was just curious, I've seen a few videos mention that the mics on the unit are close but still not perfect so I was wondering if using overheads instead would give a better positioning/sound but this is all new to me. I just bought mics this year but haven't used them yet (still looking at an interface or a mixer/interface). I don't know much about mics I and didn't want to ruin them before doing some research beforehand. I just got the ead10 and right now I'm still learning the basics. I've been playing with the trigger settings and velocities with a mesh head trying to see how close of a feel I can get to a real snare drum. Thanks for the videos!
@@BigChieff93 My advice would probably be to go either with the EAD10 (and adding triggers if you want a better control of the sound), or to go with microphones, interface/preamps, computer etc. They’re two different systems. The EAD10 is affordable and easy to work with, but it has its limitations. Classic recordings with microphones has a way great potential … but requires a higher level of knowledge and a lot more work and extra gear.
Hi, in paired mode, EAD doesn't see the RIM trigger from my DT-50s. However, "separate" mode sees both triggers in the DT-50S. Any suggestions for a remedy?
Hmm, first thought is if the sensitivity level and the trigger volume is set in a right way when you chose paired-mode (if set too low then the Ead won’t get any signal). And if it works in separate mode than it can’t be a problem with the cord, could still be a problem with the actual trigger though. But before blaming the trigger I would try different settings. Do you have more than one trigger? That is the simplest way to troubleshoot, just switch between different ones and see if they behave differently 😬👍🏻
Thanks, glad to be of service 🙏🏻 You adjust them just the same as the other ones. Either just hit the drum you put the trigger on and it will automatically be assigned on the EAD10’s display so you can change sounds/voices. Or, you can toggle in the trigger menu in the EAD10 (every trigger/port has a different number/name).
This tutorial talks more about different voices and how to tune/pitch your samples that’s assigned to your triggers ✌🏻🤩 ruclips.net/video/CcCjbKf_7M8/видео.htmlsi=Ju6irUgtWLGt5NMb
@@bpdrumstudio Hey man! What specifically do you mean by settings: what voices I use? Levels? What options I use for triggers in the EAD-menu, etc. , John
@flowerlandofjohn hey John sorry if I'm not specific. I believe the sounds that you play with the most air from the compressor scene? I'm also trying to figure out how to get more sensitivity especially in the snare drum trigger do you have any suggestions on how you do this and how to do this? Thanks John
@@bpdrumstudio The presets I’ve based most of my kit/sounds on are: Heavy Rock Speed Metal BreakBeats But I almost always use “Compressor” as the effect. Apart from that I have a couple of kits that I’ve built from scratch. You go through all of the sounds, effects and reverbs and choose the ones you like for a specific sound (like a big sounding drum kit etc). And again, I believe that half the job of getting a good sound is to make the drums and the EAD10 work together through dampening and lower tuning of the drums. And as previously mentioned, and maybe most importantly, I pitch/tune the trigger-sound to resemble the pitch of my actual drum. Then I set the levels: more trigger on drums far from the EAD10, and less on closer ones. And these levels are very personal, it’s all dependent on how hard you hit, and you must use your ears to determine your levels. Tuning the samples: ruclips.net/video/CcCjbKf_7M8/видео.html Muffling/dampening: ruclips.net/video/fa_IgNvejeg/видео.html Shield/bleed: ruclips.net/video/XC8ORWoOzYI/видео.html Regarding sensitivity I can only point you to playing around with the sensitivity levels in the EAD10 trigger menu. And make sure you’ve assigned the right trigger for the snare (also in the trigger menu). Good luck ✌🏻🤩
I’m not sure I know what you mean. Do you mean triggers that are not Yamaha? And do you mean an extra kick trigger (for double kicks)? One kick trigger is built into the actual module that you attach to to your base drum (which also have the 2 microphones). If you want to connect another kick-trigger I reckon you just connect that through any of the other 4 inputs on the EAD10-controller (haven’t done it myself, but don’t see the problem why it shouldn’t work). You will of course need an extra kick-trigger and assign it with a kick sound. But it shouldn’t be any different than to connect any another other trigger or pad …
You mean one extra? Cause the built in stereo mics (for all I know) are condenser microphones. But with that said I’ve never tried to connect another mic to the mic-port. The 4 other ports I think is only digital ... I’ll check tomorrow, but I don’t think it will “upgrade” the EAD10. The built in mics are very custom-adapted for drums.
@@jermss_: ok, no I haven’t seen an obvious solution to do that. I had an similar idea previously, but then I thought of sending the stereo-output of the EAD10 to a small mixer, and have a channel on the mixer with a good condenser mic for overall uptake, then mix those two together and send a stereo-signal to whatever devise (computer, PA-system, big mixer etc). If I stumble up on a solution I’ll get back to you 😅👍🏻
Ok, so on you example, 1 goes to tom floor, 2 goes to sensor on kicker, 3 to snare, 4 to a tom, what is on B, also what is on 5 and 6? Means you have 7 triggers? Also, what is hooked to the other por of the sensor I can see one comes from the splitter 2.
Well, there are 7 inputs. But one is for the microphone. That’s in “B”. 5 is my 10” rack-toms and 6 is my 16” left floor-tom 👍🏻 So: A, kick 1 - kick sensor/trigger A, kick 2 - right 14” floor-tom B - microphone Snare 3 - snare Share 4 - 12” rack-tom 5 - 10” rack-tom 6 - 16” floor-tom I’ve chosen drums that’s close to each other for the Y-cable splitter (kick/floor, snare/rack) out of convenience, so I don’t need to “rip the cable” more than necessary. Hope that helped, if not, just keep asking ✌🏻😃 , John
@@flowerlandofjohn ok I get it, but what is that microphone used for? Also on the actual ead that is on the floor tom, there are 2 inputs one is the kick to A sensor trigger what is on the other input? That would be where usually goes B...
@@allsic well, the EAD10 is 2 condenser microphones and one trigger, which I then add more triggers to. And the microphones need a port and a cable also, and I thats what’s “B” is for. Your other question I’m not sure I understand? As I mentioned above: the kick “dual port” is used for the kick and one of my floor-toms (I have 2).
@@allsic Yes. The kick-trigger has a mic to capture the whole kit. When you use that in conjunction with triggers on other drums you can choose how much input you want from the triggers in the mix with the kick-mic. If you want to play without the mic you can swap the bass drum trigger with a DT50K(not S) and get a complete trigger system and include overhead mics if you want. I use this atm with silentstrokes and low volume cymbals for home-practice. They have made a firmware update spesifically for low volume setups to get the best possible trigger settings and sounds. Have fun! This product is awsome and has a lot of expansion posdibilities. Only con I csn think of is that it only has two out ports. But there are posdibilities. Practicing with this and making quick ideas for your band or playing over drumless tracks is awsome. Compressed scenes with a bit of reverb as a base will make the kit sound very good.
John, I'll appreciate your help with some issues. I recently got the EAD10 and i'm struggling with the config. do you know if I can disable the microphone in the kick trigger, in order to get only the sound of the kick from the module? or maybe replace it with the DT50K? Thanks for your attention. I’m looking forward to your reply.
Hmm, I don’t really know. But if you only want the trigger from the Ead I suppose you could just unplug it, there’s 2 cables (A&B) and one is for the microphones and one for the trigger … But might I ask what you have a trouble with?
@@flowerlandofjohn I've tried that once, but can't tell the difference. Maybe I did something wrong.. I play in a small venue, so the bass drum mic is picking up the sound of other instruments. In this situation, it would be perfect to isolate the kick and snare from the toms and cymbals. I should read the manual all over again... Thank you so much for your help.
@@jacktoledomx Ok, here’s a couple of tricks/ideas: Tip 1. have you adjusted the “Noise-gate”? That can help, scroll down on this page: hub.yamaha.com/drums/d-electronic/get-more-from-your-ead10-with-v2-0-firmware/ Tip 2, when playing live with with extra bleed from others instruments, use a preset (or build your own sound) with less compressor. If you use a really compressed sound the EAD10 will absorb sounds much more. So go easy on the compressor in live situations. Tip 3. Shield the microphones on the EAD10 from unwanted sound-sources. I use a small stack that I’ve placed between the EAD10 and my ride, just to avoid bleed 👌🏻
@@jacktoledomx And: if you didn’t hear any difference then you can’t have unplugged the microphone, that’s like where all the sound comes from, so try again 😅
I’m having some trouble getting the settings right for the sensitivity. Which pad type did you choose and what is your gain sensitivity and reject time
Hmm, well that is very individual based on the tension of the heads, how hard you hit etc. Let me get back to you in a couple of hours and I will check my settings 👍🏻🥁
Here you go (for what it’s worth) ✌🏻 Pad Type: Kick - KP125W/125 Snare - DT:50S SN 10” tom - DT:50S tomH 12” tom - DT:50S tomM 14” floor-tom - DT:50S tomL 16” floor-tom - DT:50S tomL And I pitch all the samples to the tuning of the drums. Velocity Curve: Norm TRG/Pad Type: Kick: Gain - 115 Sensitivity - 7 Reject time - 20ms Snare: Gain - 65 Sensitivity - 4 Reject time - 20ms Toms: Gain - 20 Sensitivity - 4 Reject time - 51ms
I'm still confused. I get the to paired/separate part (and I choose separate, obviously) so now how do I get 2 sounds from one trigger input. I'm using it on my high tom and medium tom.
Hmm, I need to ask some counter question to understand your problem. Do you only use for the high- and mid tom, or do you use it on all of the drums (and how many drums is that?) Did you get the cables I mentioned: the Y-cable splitters? And the only ports that have double signals/inputs are the kick and snare ports (1&2, 3&4). 5 & 6 are just single line inputs.
@@TylerCritti Ok, then you don’t really need a Y-cable (you could use port 5 & 6 with just regular cables). Very well. So you have 2 triggers on your toms connected with the Y-part of the cable. To which port have you connected them? You should use the snare port (if you still have the A & B cords connected to your EAD10). Next problem solving is to make sure that you’ve assigned the triggers you are using in the “trigger-menu”. Did this help?
@@flowerlandofjohn yes I have them plugged into the snare input. Now, how do I assign them? Is that input mode? Pad type? When I go into Menu, Trigger, Input Mode, and hit the Trg button the 3 and 4 are separate but when I hit each trigger it goes back to 3. Is there a way to set it one to 3 and one to 4? And I do plan on using this for 5 triggers, I forgot to say that in my previous reply, sorry.
@@TylerCritti This video shows how to assign triggers and sounds. He is showing how “paired mode” but you should be able to do the same but with 2 triggers instead of 2 zones: ruclips.net/video/P2rF7QRHemU/видео.html And yes. You can absolutely assign different triggers and sounds to 3 & 4, it should be automatic so I don’t really know what’s causing your problem. Do like him in the video and remove the triggers and tap on them with your finger, then they should switch between 3 & 4, if they do that while tapping but not when in the drums then it’s a “crosstalk” problem (that the vibrations leak between the toms). If still a problem try to connect them with regular single cables to port 5 & 6 to se if it’s a problem with your connection…
Hi, for the bass drum and Tom splitter, I've a converter which is 1 stereo to 2 stereos, while tours is 1 stereo to 2 monos. Is this why my bass drum and Tom are not being separated? Thanks
Hmm, don’t actually know. Possibly. But did you change from paired to separate I in the menu in the EAD10? Like in my tutorial here: ruclips.net/video/B737ieTS_x0/видео.html
Whoa, now I don’t follow. The mic-input in module or the brain? I mean it’s only a stereo system, and there’s already two microphones in the module. But there’s only one mic-input (but that’s in stereo - one for each of the two microphones), so in my understanding all you would do is to divide two existing signal inputs into two other signals. I don’t get where you get the third from? Even if you could fool the system there will probably be some mad phasing issues. The system is calibrated to work with the two built in microphones in the module. I have a hard time seeing that one could better that system. Then I would rather go for a classical regular microphone setup 👍🏻😅
I don't know anything what you talking about with the drugs but I do must say your drums are beautiful close up I never seen drums close up like that in my life nothing kind of drums anyway they are so nice no Wonder you're a pro addict👍
A bunch of tutorials on The Yamaha EAD10 here (how to add 5 triggers, tuning & muffling of the drums, placement of drums and using “a shield”, pitching the samples in the EAD10 to work with your drums & lots of sound samples) ✌🏻🤩
ruclips.net/p/PLgbNYrZECAo0iOn6icrfP5P2rZo_4cPSy
Thank you thank you. this separate thing on 1-2 and 3 - 4 made my day.
Great, and you’re welcome ✌🏻🤩
Great video,
I was just on a forum and people want to know if 2 EAD10 can be run as 1 , in parallel probably.......not sure ?
Might have to connect them to a device because its stereo.
It would have a great sound 2 in parallel as 1 unit.
1 on the bass drum , other above or to the side but i dont have even 1.
Thank you very much 👍🏻🤩
Well, I’ve never tried (I only have 1 EAD10). But I think that there could possibly be some phasing issues if you use 2 microphone-modules & 2 brain-modules. And you would in any case need to connect them to a computer and combine the two different sound sources into one track.
This guy tried 2 microphone-modules through 1 brain-module, and that seems to work:
ruclips.net/video/LjvsMnC7auU/видео.htmlsi=ySfTa6h7krbDYqZ4
Good luck ✌🏻😅🤩
Great video man!
Could you record a video showing how to configure the sounds of each trigger in the yamaha ead10? I think it would help a lot of people!
Sure, great idea!
I will look into it (shouldn’t be problem). I will probably go through all the configurations I’ve done, which is mainly what sounds/voices I have assigned and how I pitch each drum in the EAD10 to resemble the pitch of the actual drum.
Apart from that I would highly recommend my other tutorials about tuning, dampening, shielding the microphones and placement of drums. Those things have a lot to do with a great sound with the EAD10 ✌🏻🤩
[Links are in the pinned comment] 👍🏻
On its way, and hopefully it answers some of your questions 😅✌🏻
ruclips.net/video/CcCjbKf_7M8/видео.html
Thank you very much, my friend! Last question, do you use the Y cable in 1 out of the kick and the other in the out of the snare?
@@danielgoulart91 No, keep asking as long as you have questions.
If I understand you correctly. Then yes. The “kick” and “snare” inputs on the EAD10 are the ones that have double-signals (stereo). So one Y-cable goes from the “kick input” on the EAD10 to two sources, in my case the kick and my right floor-tom (reason being is that they are close to each other). And the other Y-cable goes from the “snare-input” to my snare and my right rack-tom (again only because they are close to each other). The 5 & 6 inputs I then use with regular mono-cables for my left rack-tom and my left floor-tom.
Did I answer your question? 😅
I was trying to buy this drums module but it has no sd card input so, it's a bit a mess since I wanna make my triggers hit sounding more like a real kick and snare
Well, I’m not sure I understand your problem. You can just use an USB-stick instead for bringing your own samples into the EAD10. Like this:
ruclips.net/video/Ke5PO00l9Rg/видео.htmlsi=oHYLYOPDw9hTo83L
Or am I missing something in your question? 😅
@@flowerlandofjohn wow! This is absolutely fantastic! That's exactly what I was looking for mate! Thank you!
Cheers
Ed
@@eddrumer Great, you’re welcome 👍🏻🤩
I'm glad to see a video like this. I'm wondering if I could connect the EAD to my interface as a stereo audio channel? I wonder how it would sound as room, or OH? Definitely sub, as I'd like to hear w/headphones
It’s has got stereo output, but through two separate outputs channels (left & right). And it could of course be used as room-microphones since it got two condenser microphones. With that you could also use the built in effects (different reverbs and delays etc). Word of advice is that it is quiet sensitive for bleed and feedback in a live situation from other instruments. And yes headphones can be connected, and is absolutely the way to go with the EAD10. Here’s an example. All the cymbals is just recorded with the mics in the EAD10: ruclips.net/user/shorts4QYisw0hWN8?feature=share
And here with some effects (phaser): ruclips.net/user/shortsVGyJm3JxDco?feature=share
If I didn’t answer your questions then just ask again. However, if you only want to use the EAD10as overheads, then there probably better solutions out there. But as a combined full recording solution for a whole kit it’s great ✌🏻🤩
Huge help. Thank you so much
Huge you’re welcome. I searched for this kind of information also previously, and decided to make some for further questioners ✌🏻🤩
Would I be able to use a normal trigger like the dt50k bass drum trigger from Yamaha and basically replace the the actual mic/trigger that comes with the module? I want a bass drum trigger but I don’t want to spend more money on another module if I don’t have to. Thanks again!!
Hi there, follow up question: do you want to add a second bass drum or just replace the one that’s built into the microphones-attachment?
I’ve never tried to replace the the bass drum trigger (since I don’t want to take away the microphone), so I can’t answer if that would work. But I don’t see the problem by adding an extra through one of the other ports. Unfortunately I don’t have a dt50k bass drum trigger (just have a bunch of the regular dt50 triggers) otherwise I would try it out for you 😅
@@flowerlandofjohn thanks for getting back to me! My plan was to replace the mic and just use the trigger because I already have drum mics but I think imma order it and try it but I love my ead10 and I use it for practice all the time.
@Jack Rolfsness Yeah, it’s a brilliant little machine for easy practice and for easy recordings and uploads 👍🏻
Have you tried to attach a regular (non bass drum trigger) to the port where the EAD10 microphone goes? In other words: is your your question if you can replace it at all or if you can replace it specifically with a bass drum trigger?
I’m away from my drums right now, but I can probably try on Sunday to see what happens if you attach a regular trigger to that port ✌🏻
Why is the bass drum trigger multi zone to begin with? It doesn’t have two zones out of the box right? So why is that input stereo? I guess another way to ask the question is what am I losing by splitting the bass drum trigger?
Hmm, good question. I don’t now if it’s possible to use some kind of “multi-zone” for the kick. Nevertheless I am splitting that channel between the kick and a floor-tom, and that works great. But I don’t have an answer what one possible might lose by doing that. I’m will probably go to my drums later tonight. I will check and see I can get any wiser ✌🏻😅
You could have 2 individual kick drums with triggers if you needed to. Or footblaster triggers.
@@BigChieff93Yes, of course. Just as I use it for a tom instead you could of course use for another kick drum 👍🏻
Wow. Super helpful. I just bought a Yamaha DT-50K kick trigger. This is the only trigger I want for now. Only use one kick drum. I have the cable that came with the DT-50K.
1.) Which port on the back of the EAD10 do I plug it into?
2.) How do I set it up on the module where it recognizes the trigger and how do I assign and internal sound to the trigger. Just need a basic rundown of how to get the darn thing to work. I’m not doing something right because it’s not triggering. It’s a brand new trigger ordered directly from Yamaha too.
Thank you so much man.
Hi There!
First of all, one question: the EAD10 module has a built in kick-trigger, so why did you buy an extra kick-trigger?
Regardless of answer I would connect it to port 5 or 6. Next step is to (in the trigger menu) choose what kind of trigger you have connected. The title is “pad type” and there you can toggle different triggers. Once it triggers it should appear on the display in the upper right corner as (Trg5) or (Trg6).
And once it appears it’s the same for all triggers regarding choosing sounds (including the built in kick-trigger):
1. Strike the surface you want to work with.
2. Set trigger-volume (the 3rd knob
3. Chose voice/sound
This tutorial might help, it kinda addresses some of your questions. If not, then just ask me again ✌🏻😅
ruclips.net/video/CcCjbKf_7M8/видео.htmlsi=VzbUX61JiYo8Qbkz
That answered my questions perfectly. Thanks so much for your help. Honestly, I just figured an external trigger might sound better for recording. Do you think the internal trigger is quality enough for recording? If so then I’ll just return this external one.
@@DrumN4Jesus Well, I can’t really see how another trigger would work (or sound better) then the built in one. I think great sound is more a matter of calibrating and choosing sound/samples.
For better sound (and better control of the sound) I would however recommend adding triggers to all of the drums if you are to record with the EAD10 ✌🏻🤩
In my mind I guess I was just worried that the design on the ead10 internal trigger might not be as quality as an external Yamaha trigger. I’ve just seen others add an external kick trigger because they were having issues with the internal one not sounding/responding well. If you’ve had good luck with just the internal please tell me as I don’t want to waste money on unnecessary crap
Sorry, just saw this. Makes sense. Can you recommend some parameters then for the internal kick trigger please? What do I need to adjust to get a decent sound while recording?
Thank you! this I was searching for. I don't need the sound from the module, mostly I need the midi through USB to the DAW.... is it possible? do you think is it worthy? or better get an expensier Roland Drum module?
Sorry, but I don’t have the answer to any of those questions. I do not use a DAW (so I never used it for midi), and I know nothing about Roland drum modules.
Hope you find the answers you are looking for, and again sorry that I couldn’t help you 😅✌🏻
@@flowerlandofjohn Thank you! I already have. I am going for this EAD10 and will add 2 triggers for the snare, 1 for kick and the other 3 for the main 2 toms and 1 f.loor tom.
@@MarcoPolux Ok, great. If you have further questions about the EAD10 then I might have some answers 👍🏻🤩
@@flowerlandofjohn yeah definitively, thanks so much. Subscribed! 👍 👍
Do you think you could use overhead mics in the EAD10 instead of the mic/trigger module that comes with it?
You mean straight into the EAD10 brain-module? Might I ask why? I haven’t tried, but I’m afraid it’s built as one calibrated unit mic-module & brain. But by all means give it a try, but then I think you must send the signal to a computer for further calibration 😅
I would probably still recommend adding triggers for a more controlled sound and recording possibilities 👍🏻
You can check any of my videos on my homepage for sound demo like this one: ruclips.net/user/shorts4QYisw0hWN8?si=p6jmvhiyAGemYVKH
But here’s also one that I just recorded (without also using the video function):
ruclips.net/video/SHOlbSl1qtg/видео.htmlsi=LgsyX3B8Mvcq_Egw
@@flowerlandofjohn I was just curious, I've seen a few videos mention that the mics on the unit are close but still not perfect so I was wondering if using overheads instead would give a better positioning/sound but this is all new to me. I just bought mics this year but haven't used them yet (still looking at an interface or a mixer/interface). I don't know much about mics I and didn't want to ruin them before doing some research beforehand. I just got the ead10 and right now I'm still learning the basics. I've been playing with the trigger settings and velocities with a mesh head trying to see how close of a feel I can get to a real snare drum. Thanks for the videos!
@@BigChieff93 My advice would probably be to go either with the EAD10 (and adding triggers if you want a better control of the sound), or to go with microphones, interface/preamps, computer etc.
They’re two different systems. The EAD10 is affordable and easy to work with, but it has its limitations. Classic recordings with microphones has a way great potential … but requires a higher level of knowledge and a lot more work and extra gear.
@@BigChieff93 But for me to understand you better. If you listen to my demos, what are you lacking. And what’s the purpose with your recordings?
Hi, in paired mode, EAD doesn't see the RIM trigger from my DT-50s. However, "separate" mode sees both triggers in the DT-50S. Any suggestions for a remedy?
Hmm, first thought is if the sensitivity level and the trigger volume is set in a right way when you chose paired-mode (if set too low then the Ead won’t get any signal). And if it works in separate mode than it can’t be a problem with the cord, could still be a problem with the actual trigger though. But before blaming the trigger I would try different settings. Do you have more than one trigger? That is the simplest way to troubleshoot, just switch between different ones and see if they behave differently 😬👍🏻
Great Video! How do we adjust the different sounds available to the 2 added triggers?
Thanks!!
Thanks, glad to be of service 🙏🏻
You adjust them just the same as the other ones. Either just hit the drum you put the trigger on and it will automatically be assigned on the EAD10’s display so you can change sounds/voices. Or, you can toggle in the trigger menu in the EAD10 (every trigger/port has a different number/name).
This tutorial talks more about different voices and how to tune/pitch your samples that’s assigned to your triggers ✌🏻🤩
ruclips.net/video/CcCjbKf_7M8/видео.htmlsi=Ju6irUgtWLGt5NMb
God video Man, thanks🤘
Thanks, just trying to help other drummers 🙏🏻🤩
And I’m certainly no metal-drummer. But here’s how it sounds with some Sepultura ✌🏻😂
ruclips.net/video/VlQc9gymgxY/видео.html
Hey John hope all is well. Just wanted to know what kind of settings you use for the tomtom's using the triggers?
Thanks all the best Merry Christmas
@@bpdrumstudio Hey man! What specifically do you mean by settings: what voices I use? Levels? What options I use for triggers in the EAD-menu, etc.
, John
@flowerlandofjohn hey John sorry if I'm not specific. I believe the sounds that you play with the most air from the compressor scene?
I'm also trying to figure out how to get more sensitivity especially in the snare drum trigger do you have any suggestions on how you do this and how to do this?
Thanks John
@@bpdrumstudio The presets I’ve based most of my kit/sounds on are:
Heavy Rock
Speed Metal
BreakBeats
But I almost always use “Compressor” as the effect.
Apart from that I have a couple of kits that I’ve built from scratch. You go through all of the sounds, effects and reverbs and choose the ones you like for a specific sound (like a big sounding drum kit etc).
And again, I believe that half the job of getting a good sound is to make the drums and the EAD10 work together through dampening and lower tuning of the drums.
And as previously mentioned, and maybe most importantly, I pitch/tune the trigger-sound to resemble the pitch of my actual drum.
Then I set the levels: more trigger on drums far from the EAD10, and less on closer ones. And these levels are very personal, it’s all dependent on how hard you hit, and you must use your ears to determine your levels.
Tuning the samples:
ruclips.net/video/CcCjbKf_7M8/видео.html
Muffling/dampening:
ruclips.net/video/fa_IgNvejeg/видео.html
Shield/bleed:
ruclips.net/video/XC8ORWoOzYI/видео.html
Regarding sensitivity I can only point you to playing around with the sensitivity levels in the EAD10 trigger menu. And make sure you’ve assigned the right trigger for the snare (also in the trigger menu).
Good luck ✌🏻🤩
@flowerlandofjohn thanks so much John you're amazing
How do you connect aftermarket kick triggers?
I’m not sure I know what you mean. Do you mean triggers that are not Yamaha? And do you mean an extra kick trigger (for double kicks)?
One kick trigger is built into the actual module that you attach to to your base drum (which also have the 2 microphones). If you want to connect another kick-trigger I reckon you just connect that through any of the other 4 inputs on the EAD10-controller (haven’t done it myself, but don’t see the problem why it shouldn’t work). You will of course need an extra kick-trigger and assign it with a kick sound. But it shouldn’t be any different than to connect any another other trigger or pad …
do you know if it's possible to add a condenser mic to the ead 10?
You mean one extra? Cause the built in stereo mics (for all I know) are condenser microphones. But with that said I’ve never tried to connect another mic to the mic-port. The 4 other ports I think is only digital ...
I’ll check tomorrow, but I don’t think it will “upgrade” the EAD10. The built in mics are very custom-adapted for drums.
@@flowerlandofjohn yeah I meant one extra and thank you I was wondering if it would enhance it all. appreciate the info!
@@jermss_: ok, no I haven’t seen an obvious solution to do that. I had an similar idea previously, but then I thought of sending the stereo-output of the EAD10 to a small mixer, and have a channel on the mixer with a good condenser mic for overall uptake, then mix those two together and send a stereo-signal to whatever devise (computer, PA-system, big mixer etc). If I stumble up on a solution I’ll get back to you 😅👍🏻
@@flowerlandofjohn thank you good sir I appreciate that 👍
So if you want to add triggers to a 5 piece kit then getting a dual trigger is sort of a waste?
Well, yeah probably. But I think the Yamaha triggers are all dual triggers 😅
@@flowerlandofjohn yamaha's snare trigger for sure but I'm thinking to get some triggers from ddrum or Roland to save some $
@@hotbutter2751 Haven’t tried any other triggers, but that will probably work just as good 👍🏻
Ok, so on you example, 1 goes to tom floor, 2 goes to sensor on kicker, 3 to snare, 4 to a tom, what is on B, also what is on 5 and 6? Means you have 7 triggers? Also, what is hooked to the other por of the sensor I can see one comes from the splitter 2.
Well, there are 7 inputs. But one is for the microphone. That’s in “B”. 5 is my 10” rack-toms and 6 is my 16” left floor-tom 👍🏻
So:
A, kick 1 - kick sensor/trigger
A, kick 2 - right 14” floor-tom
B - microphone
Snare 3 - snare
Share 4 - 12” rack-tom
5 - 10” rack-tom
6 - 16” floor-tom
I’ve chosen drums that’s close to each other for the Y-cable splitter (kick/floor, snare/rack) out of convenience, so I don’t need to “rip the cable” more than necessary.
Hope that helped, if not, just keep asking ✌🏻😃
, John
@@flowerlandofjohn ok I get it, but what is that microphone used for? Also on the actual ead that is on the floor tom, there are 2 inputs one is the kick to A sensor trigger what is on the other input? That would be where usually goes B...
@@allsic well, the EAD10 is 2 condenser microphones and one trigger, which I then add more triggers to. And the microphones need a port and a cable also, and I thats what’s “B” is for.
Your other question I’m not sure I understand? As I mentioned above: the kick “dual port” is used for the kick and one of my floor-toms (I have 2).
@@flowerlandofjohn I understand now, a is the kick trigger and B is the audio captured from every other tom cymbal etc...
@@allsic Yes. The kick-trigger has a mic to capture the whole kit. When you use that in conjunction with triggers on other drums you can choose how much input you want from the triggers in the mix with the kick-mic.
If you want to play without the mic you can swap the bass drum trigger with a DT50K(not S) and get a complete trigger system and include overhead mics if you want. I use this atm with silentstrokes and low volume cymbals for home-practice. They have made a firmware update spesifically for low volume setups to get the best possible trigger settings and sounds. Have fun! This product is awsome and has a lot of expansion posdibilities. Only con I csn think of is that it only has two out ports. But there are posdibilities. Practicing with this and making quick ideas for your band or playing over drumless tracks is awsome. Compressed scenes with a bit of reverb as a base will make the kit sound very good.
Can each of those triggers have their own sound added on them seperately?
Yes. All triggers can be assigned individually 👍🏻
John, I'll appreciate your help with some issues.
I recently got the EAD10 and i'm struggling with the config. do you know if I can disable the microphone in the kick trigger, in order to get only the sound of the kick from the module? or maybe replace it with the DT50K?
Thanks for your attention. I’m looking forward to your reply.
Hmm, I don’t really know. But if you only want the trigger from the Ead I suppose you could just unplug it, there’s 2 cables (A&B) and one is for the microphones and one for the trigger …
But might I ask what you have a trouble with?
@@flowerlandofjohn
I've tried that once, but can't tell the difference. Maybe I did something wrong..
I play in a small venue, so the bass drum mic is picking up the sound of other instruments. In this situation, it would be perfect to isolate the kick and snare from the toms and cymbals.
I should read the manual all over again...
Thank you so much for your help.
@@jacktoledomx Ok, here’s a couple of tricks/ideas: Tip 1. have you adjusted the “Noise-gate”? That can help, scroll down on this page: hub.yamaha.com/drums/d-electronic/get-more-from-your-ead10-with-v2-0-firmware/
Tip 2, when playing live with with extra bleed from others instruments, use a preset (or build your own sound) with less compressor. If you use a really compressed sound the EAD10 will absorb sounds much more. So go easy on the compressor in live situations.
Tip 3. Shield the microphones on the EAD10 from unwanted sound-sources. I use a small stack that I’ve placed between the EAD10 and my ride, just to avoid bleed 👌🏻
@@jacktoledomx Here’s a video on the “bleed-tip”: ruclips.net/video/XC8ORWoOzYI/видео.html
@@jacktoledomx And: if you didn’t hear any difference then you can’t have unplugged the microphone, that’s like where all the sound comes from, so try again 😅
I’m having some trouble getting the settings right for the sensitivity. Which pad type did you choose and what is your gain sensitivity and reject time
Hmm, well that is very individual based on the tension of the heads, how hard you hit etc.
Let me get back to you in a couple of hours and I will check my settings 👍🏻🥁
Here you go (for what it’s worth) ✌🏻
Pad Type:
Kick - KP125W/125
Snare - DT:50S SN
10” tom - DT:50S tomH
12” tom - DT:50S tomM
14” floor-tom - DT:50S tomL
16” floor-tom - DT:50S tomL
And I pitch all the samples to the tuning of the drums.
Velocity Curve:
Norm
TRG/Pad Type:
Kick:
Gain - 115
Sensitivity - 7
Reject time - 20ms
Snare:
Gain - 65
Sensitivity - 4
Reject time - 20ms
Toms:
Gain - 20
Sensitivity - 4
Reject time - 51ms
I appreciate you getting back to me, I really had a hard time finding the best settings. Again thank you
I'm still confused. I get the to paired/separate part (and I choose separate, obviously) so now how do I get 2 sounds from one trigger input. I'm using it on my high tom and medium tom.
Hmm, I need to ask some counter question to understand your problem. Do you only use for the high- and mid tom, or do you use it on all of the drums (and how many drums is that?)
Did you get the cables I mentioned: the Y-cable splitters?
And the only ports that have double signals/inputs are the kick and snare ports (1&2, 3&4). 5 & 6 are just single line inputs.
@@flowerlandofjohn yes I am only using it for my hi and mid toms, and yes I have the Y splitter cable.
@@TylerCritti Ok, then you don’t really need a Y-cable (you could use port 5 & 6 with just regular cables).
Very well. So you have 2 triggers on your toms connected with the Y-part of the cable. To which port have you connected them? You should use the snare port (if you still have the A & B cords connected to your EAD10).
Next problem solving is to make sure that you’ve assigned the triggers you are using in the “trigger-menu”.
Did this help?
@@flowerlandofjohn yes I have them plugged into the snare input. Now, how do I assign them? Is that input mode? Pad type?
When I go into Menu, Trigger, Input Mode, and hit the Trg button the 3 and 4 are separate but when I hit each trigger it goes back to 3. Is there a way to set it one to 3 and one to 4?
And I do plan on using this for 5 triggers, I forgot to say that in my previous reply, sorry.
@@TylerCritti This video shows how to assign triggers and sounds. He is showing how “paired mode” but you should be able to do the same but with 2 triggers instead of 2 zones:
ruclips.net/video/P2rF7QRHemU/видео.html
And yes. You can absolutely assign different triggers and sounds to 3 & 4, it should be automatic so I don’t really know what’s causing your problem.
Do like him in the video and remove the triggers and tap on them with your finger, then they should switch between 3 & 4, if they do that while tapping but not when in the drums then it’s a “crosstalk” problem (that the vibrations leak between the toms).
If still a problem try to connect them with regular single cables to port 5 & 6 to se if it’s a problem with your connection…
Hi, for the bass drum and Tom splitter, I've a converter which is 1 stereo to 2 stereos, while tours is 1 stereo to 2 monos. Is this why my bass drum and Tom are not being separated? Thanks
Hmm, don’t actually know. Possibly. But did you change from paired to separate I in the menu in the EAD10?
Like in my tutorial here:
ruclips.net/video/B737ieTS_x0/видео.html
@@flowerlandofjohn yup, i tried both separated and paired but it doesn't seem to split like how the snare and rim does.
@@bombaydrumschool: ok then you likely need a new cord. Stereo in both ends might absolutely confuse the system I recon 😅
@@flowerlandofjohn true, i'll try getting a mono and see what happens. will keep you updated. thanks for your prompt response!
@@bombaydrumschool any news? Did you solve it? 😬🤩
wow thanks
Thanks & you’re welcome 🙏🏻🤩
Maybe I can put a Y splitter on the mic input, making it actually 3 mics, and and use that additional mic (w/XLR-1/4" cable) on the hi hat.
Whoa, now I don’t follow. The mic-input in module or the brain? I mean it’s only a stereo system, and there’s already two microphones in the module. But there’s only one mic-input (but that’s in stereo - one for each of the two microphones), so in my understanding all you would do is to divide two existing signal inputs into two other signals. I don’t get where you get the third from?
Even if you could fool the system there will probably be some mad phasing issues. The system is calibrated to work with the two built in microphones in the module. I have a hard time seeing that one could better that system. Then I would rather go for a classical regular microphone setup 👍🏻😅
I don't know anything what you talking about with the drugs but I do must say your drums are beautiful close up I never seen drums close up like that in my life nothing kind of drums anyway they are so nice no Wonder you're a pro addict👍
I'm so sorry I made that one word mistake I wish I knew how to delete it I would do it it's supposed to say drum not the other word forgive me
It’s ok 👍🏻😂😂😂
@@franciscaramos535 dude this is hilarious, god bless you lol
@@brandonedwards1181 Thank you god bless you too