Really that bad? - TMNT NES Review
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2020
- TMNT on the NES is often considered one of the hardest and worst games on the system, but is it really? Hard games are praised now a days for being so rare. Are sure this game is bad and not just hard? Are we remembering out childhoods correctly? Is this game really as bad as the internet makes it out to be? It defiantly has its problems, but lets see if this game's bark is really as bad as it's bite.
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Had TMNT 2 The Arcade Game been released first, we'd have never gotten this game and only gotten beat-em-ups.
NES' strength was that there was a plethora of games and new ideas.
TMNT needs to be remastered as an action adventure with beat em up elements.
True, but I feel like more gamers would have been okay with just getting the beat'em ups. I think a remaster would be cool. If nothing else, the enhancements on the Cowabunga Collection that fixes the slowdown and flickering is nice. Also, if you are looking for a side scrolling TMNT game with some Action Adventure elements, look into TMNT on the GBA based on the 2004 series.
I just finally beat this game for my first time over the weekend. I did it on a nes with a crt tv with no game genie, save states or rewinds. I was so hyped i felt like I won the superbowl when i beat Shredder. I think this game is criminally underrated and i'd go as far to say that i think its the best Turtles game on the NES
Nice! That's how it's done! Sadly, I had to watch a let's play to figure out that final hallway, so kudos to you good sir. I salute your gaming skill!
Haven't played this game but I watched a complete let's play of it and I think it looks really interesting and I like hard games. I just bought the NES cart, which goes for just $5 to my surprise, so why not. Definitely on my short list of NES games I want to try and beat.
Awesome. Yeah, this one is challenging. The final hall is broken so just make sure you have scrolls or know the glitch trick to reach the end. Also the Cowabunga Collection version of this game has the option to remove flickering if that becomes an issue.
@@InfiniteComboReviewsyeah, I saw it's now in the cowabunga collection. May buy that so I can practice with save states before going for a full run on the actual cart.
@AxelAlexK It's totally worth it IMO.
I came here after playing the cowabunga edition. I have to say I would never have had the patience to beat this game if it wasn't for the cowabunga collections rewind feature.
The collection has an option where you can view a speed run of it and no damage taken 😱
Awesome video and wonderful editing btw!
Thanks a lot! Ooh! I did not know about the no damage speed run. That's sooo cool! I'll have to check that out.
This was the one of 3 cartridges I got with my first console, that being NES. 2 cartridges contained Lode Runner, Battle City, Nut's n' Milk, Popeye, Duck Hunt e.t.c. TMNT 1 felt like a proper story game after them. Yes was not easy, but it never felt extreme hard. I slowly progressed at the levels learning dead ends and places where I could "farm" pizza slices to replenish health or shurikens/boomerangs/energy scrolls. I learned the game world and it was great. So this eventually led me all the way inside technodrome and there the hell started. No more farming, enemies hit like a truck and moved on jetpacks, shooting in all directions. I had aboutdozen of attempts before I quit trying.
And then my friend had completed the game, because his cartridge had level selection option via pressing select button on title screen. I wish they did it for initial release. On the other hand I begun liking challenges after this game, and for this I am grateful.
To dodge this enemy you have to reset room into fire guys, then climb by left half of the ladder and on the second floor there would be a fire guy instead that is easier to dodge and kill. ruclips.net/video/B6cPTDAQwRU/видео.html To reset enemies group kill the last one of them on screen, or reenter level, but keep at least one enemy from the desired group alive on screen as you walks scrolling it.
Some jumps very only possible on precise timing of short taps or jump button or much easier if you had turbo A button on gamepad.
Besides this game was never near absurd difficulty of Battletoads.
TMNT 3 was my first console game and I ended up getting 2, then 1 last. Since it was hard and not co-op, I didn't play it much as a kid. Trying to beat if for this review (and an older review ways back) I learned how to farm the pizza and stuff like that too, though it was that cheap final hall before Shredder that did me in. Had to watch a guide on how to get through it, which was sad considering how easy Shredder was. I can appreciate the challenge of the game, but I think if it had been a bit more balanced and fair, it would be more fondly remembered.
wait your friend's cartidge had a level select by pressing select? as far as i know the only version with a level select was a prototype where you held A as you pressed start.
I've only beaten this game once and it took a while and honestly unlike other difficult NES games I didn't feel like I accomplished much. There's too much poor gameplay balancing and issues that really detract from it, it's not like beating Castlevania or Ghost 'N Goblins where the challenge was tough but still fair. The last time I replayed it I just brute forced my way through with save states.
I've only beaten it once and it was on my 3rd try after not having played it in years, but I needed to watch a guide to get me through the final corridor. Maybe because it was a childhood challenge finally concurred, but I felt pretty good beating it.
In my opinion this game is best played with save states.
I think most older games that need to be beaten in one sitting usually are. Though that might just be me.
The game would have been fine if they had put more than 2 pizza in the game like 1 pizza at the end of every sewer or for every 100.000 points get a extra life
@@joimumu game not that bad
This game is well made but it's too difficult.
See, I'm sorta in the middle there, because the parts that make it difficult are the parts that are poorly made. For example, there is a mechanic where you automatically step over small gaps. However, I lost all 4 turtles at a section where you have to fall through those exact gaps or its instata death, and its timed, so you have to fight with the games mechanics to make it through. I pretty much had to cheese my way though this to even stand a chance.
This game was ok but not bad i think it was decent in my opinion! Good job on this video!
That's mostly how I feel too, just more frustrating than it should have been. Thanks a lot!
90% of kids never got to the water level
As a kid, I could never get past the water stage.
This game might have benefited from keeping the player in the center of the screen at all times, or even a modern widescreen format. It would alleviate some of the “cheap hits” without changing the game design too much. But then again, the test of reflexes was a huge part of the game and you wouldn’t want to lose what makes playing it satisfying to master. The other thing is just not having limited continues and letting people restart as many times as they like. As long as you farm scrolls and pizzas as needed, it’s really not that difficult of a game. It’s very addicting in the most classic sense of the word, where the excitement you get is in overcoming obstacles and getting through them more efficiently with repeated playthroughs, and every time you lose you feel like you were so close and just want to turn around and try again.
There really should be a TMNT Konami Collection or two. This game would benefit massively from some quality of life features like some autosave points, and then maybe it wouldn’t be a game that is only recommended to people who are into retro games. Do all the NES, Gameboy, and Arcade games in collection 1 and all the SNES and Genesis games in collection 2, sprinkle in instruction manuals, box art, and other extras. If the effort was put into it you’d have a success and the games would at least be preserved for a while longer
I do think centering the turtles in the camera would have helped. After all, it's not really reaction speed if you can't even see the enemy coming. Also, I certainly get where you're coming from with the challenge and getting just a bit further each time, but i feel like cheap deaths do undermine that experience. Also the Genesis and SNES only have 4 games between them. The collections would be lopsided.
InfiniteComboReviews the logic of that being that the 4 games on the SNES/Genesis are probably more popular and sought after than all the games in the other one. I don’t think the GB games do much to shift the odds in the favor of the collection they’re in, that’s more of a bonus than anything. You could put the 2 arcade games on collection 2 but then you’d probably say it’s heavily lopsided in favor of the second collection. Of course, the alternative would be one single collection but that’s a lot of games for one collection, and you’ve still got to deal with licensing and the music and everything. I’m well aware all of this is meaningless bc it’s not likely to happen but we’ve seen collections done very well before, we know it’s technically feasible and we know they do well enough to get made, at least when the properties are owned by the publisher
Yeah. Honestly, the arcade games make the idea of two collections sloppy unless you split them up between them, which would make sense actually. The arcade game and TMNT 2 in one set and both Turtles in Time in the other. They could even make an HD collection for the 2003 turtle games if they wanted too, but ugh. Licensing is the worst! Once with a game, always with a game. That's how it should be, but blah. Just play TMNT Rescue Palooza. That'll make you feel better.
editing and commentary are great. I would recommend you add your own subtitles tho.
also adding some culture references would also be nice.
@@LinWasTaken Thanks. Yeah, I've done my own subtitles on 2 of my other videos before, I just haven't gotten to this one yet. What do you mean by culture references?
@@LinWasTaken culture refrences????
What you talking about G
The game isn't that hard, until the effin technodrome. The technodrome swallows you, chews on you and spits you out a bloddy mess. You will be able to beat the technodrome Boss with Strategy, but inside? You got any scrolls, no? FU. Come back with some scrolls boyo. Tedious. Until the technodrome I really enjoyed it as a kid and adult. The technodrome level? I hate it, back than, now, forever.
Great vid! Subscribed!
I actually beat the technodrome without scrolls, but I had to basically abuse how the game spawns enemies to do it. Something I couldn't do ask a kid or a RUclips video showing me how. Thanks a lot!
Inside Technodrome level is manageable, but you basically arrive at very low hp (about 2 - 4 bars on each turtle) at the last corridor before door to Shredder boss room. As a kid I always thought this area was impossible without 2 turtles with 99 scrolls stacks, but the fact was that enemies with jetpacks took 2 scrolls hits and they often managed to make a shot that I couldn't dodge in a narrow corridor, that eventually depleted my HP faster than my scrolls.
If only I knew that boomerang and screen edge trick, that I found out 15 years later while playing on emulator. Upon receiving hit Jetpack enemy backs a little and if he does go behind the screen edge, he vanishes all together. I even killed Shredder with boomerangs only (that you can find infinite number of in night level).
Yeah, I had to use the despawning jetpack guy trick to get through the final corridor as well.
Great review and channel! You got yourself a new fan! I love this game, but I know it’s mostly nostalgic attachment.
Awesome! Thanks. Yeah, I have nastolgia for it too, but that doesn't make it good XD
@@InfiniteComboReviews It’s a lot like liking Konami (albeit not from an objective standpoint) in general mainly because of nostalgic attachment just like with pre-2010s Nickelodeon.
@@kieranstark7213 That's a fair point and really it's okay to like stuff for nastolgia alone even if its objectively bad.
@@InfiniteComboReviews Also the case with something like the non-SNES versions of Super Mario Bros. 1 and the Land Before Time sequels (though the original kicks ass)
@@kieranstark7213 I actually think I play the NES Mario 1 more than the SNES version, but I definitely hear what you're saying.
I played this game at the turn of the century with thoughts of nostalgia thinking back on one of my favorite childhood T.V. shows Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but when I started playing it I was pissed but I had to win! This was sort of like that Karate Kid on NES thing I heard that happened. I had to beat the game but that damn dam kept screwing me over time and time again! I eventually through some miracle made it all the way to the Technodrome stage but was never able to beat the game. I later on in my life sold the game and haven't played it since until 22 years later as of yesterday. The pain came back but the joyful memories of the TMNT brand and the longing lust to beat the game have not subsided.
But yeah, at the end of the day it's cheap and it's most certainly ass!
But I like it anyway...
Yeah, I have a bit of a soft spot for this game too. I also had the desire to beat it from when I was a kid and I managed to pull it off. Though I had to watch a guide for the very last corridor of the technodrome stage since you basically have to cheese it to survive. Shredder is stupid easy though.
I thought the reason that the enemies in this game were so random is that they were repurposed from other games.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were, though I wouldn't know which games they were repurposed from.
“Can you believe that was a thing?”
Know what else was a thing shortly before that rule? The video game crash caused by an over saturated market.
Yeah, though I wasn't there for it myself XD
@@InfiniteComboReviews Video games and drunk driving don’t mix. 80s gamers learned it the hard way.
@@robertlauncher They just needed a third dimension.
This was the hardest game Ive ever played..i just got the cowabunga collection of course useb 1000s of save states and finaly got to the inside of he technodrom, thats the furthest i ever got as a 7 or 8 year old...how the hell did I pull that off 32 years ago w no save states..im flabbergasted how good I got at this game.
I just played it again on the Cowabunga Collection last week. I died in the room just before Shredder. Totally forgot about save states. Currently I'm getting my shell handed to me by Shredder in TMNT 3: Radical Rescue.
@@InfiniteComboReviews w no save states you got that far in tmnt 1 for nes..how in the hell!!???? Are you a god???
@@user-bj1mx2ip1c Lol. No. If you know the routes, you can skip a lot of the areas in the game. Its the last hallway that's super broken and needs to be cheesed. Shredder is the easiest boss ironically.
If the game had fixed the flaws mentioned it not just wouldn´t have been awesome but it could have been brought back every other entry. For instance, yes, give us the incredible TMNT 2 Arcade but for the 3, instead of another Beat´em Up they could have made another TMNT 1.
Well, 3 is my favorite so I dunno about that, but I hear you. Technically some of the gameboy games follow the TMNT 1 style.
@@InfiniteComboReviews Funny. I was going to say in the message that I didn´t particularly liked 3. But, anyways, it does was a shame that this type of game wasn´t given another chance. More so for the TMNT games.
@@justicierodelaliga Well if you've never played Rescue Palooza, there are a few TMNT 1 themed stages in that..
I never had much trouble with the infamous underwater level. It was level 3 that gave me fits. I couldn't figure out where to go or what to do to complete the level.
The water stage always caused me heavy damage, but it was never the main issue. It's the final stage that always wrecked me.
@@InfiniteComboReviews I never got that far.
@@dreamlandnightmare I managed to beat it once.
@@InfiniteComboReviews By level 4, it started to turn into too much of a maze, and I hate maze games, especially when I don't have a full map.
@@dreamlandnightmare Thats the airfield right? I think all you have to do is just follow the numbers. There's just a few alternate routes.
You're like the Video Game review equilivant of Phelen Porteous.
This game has so many issues that it may as well be a design flaw, for example, the color of April's Jumpsuit being nearly the same color as her skin, almost like Bebop and Rocksteady ripped her jumpsuit off her body. I know someone will say "oh the NEA doesn't have enougj colors to generate a good yellow". That's a lie, commenter, because in the one part where you do fight Rocksteady, you can see a yellow door in the right shade! Apply that to April's iconic jumpsuit!
I just looked him up. Guess we do look alike XD. Yeah, I'll grant that its issues are pretty numerus, though most of them aren't game breaking. Just odd decisions.
kid in the late 80's get this game
The game: COWABUNGA IT IS
Tubular!
I dont get why people thing dark souls is hard or good. All you do is roll around on the floor and you are unstoppable.
I mean, you can't attack while rolling so you gotta make yourself vulnerable if you want to progress.
I actually had this one as a kid. Hundreds of attempts over the course of a few years, and I managed to beat the dam a grand total of once. Certainly never beat the game.
I've only beaten it once as well, and that was enough times for me.
Here's an easy way to beat the game: buy a game genie. I know of some really good codes for beating the game easily.
I own a game genie.
The game that saved the NES in the UK.
I had never heard that before. That's a cool tidbit.
great work!
Thank you.
2 seconds? That's gotta be some kind of record.
Put me in the record books!
You have a underrated channel :(
Thanks a lot.
Only 737 subscribers? (now 738 👍)
Glad to have you! Thanks!
Its not a bad game its just really really hard
I don't think it's particularly that bad, but its certainly busted in a few areas that make it unfairly hard, like the final corridor of the technodrome. Which is extra funny since Shredder is the easiest fight in the game.
I think for a lot of us this game holds up on nostalgia alone. I mean the music is amazing, as are the graphics, but the steep difficulty and cheap deaths are a problem. I've been playing this game for nearly 20 years and I've only made it past that damn seaweed once.
The trick to the seaweed area is to just run through it and swap turtles right before one dies. You'll be on the verge of death as soon as you pass the stage, but that's the optimal spot to use a continue.
This game's horror is like the Nazis of video games. Every game development school should show this video in class to ensure nothing like this is ever repeated again.
So I take it you don't like this game.
@@InfiniteComboReviews I dunno man. The game's got some good mechanics and it's fun playing as all four turtles. I beat this game many decades later after watching youtube videos and guides, but it still left me scarred. It's difficulty is stuff of legends.
@@mopbrothers Yeah. I could never beat the game or even get half way as a kid. Took until I was an adult to pull it off and even then I needed to look at a guide for the final hallway.
@@InfiniteComboReviews lol the final hallway. I almost forgot about that part with the endless blue jet pack guys. So many evil moments in this game….
@@mopbrothers Yeah. You gotta cheese it to get through.
Amazing game. Problem is American kids are lazy. Most games from Japan get dumbed down to absolute ease for the US. I loved the Turtles. And this game was a challenge. The same with Zelda. Zelda wasn't that popular where I grew up. Most kids wanted Contra or Tecmo Bowl. I preferred Zelda and Jackyl. Zelda 2 was a bit much but I still enjoyed it.
I pretty much only had TMNT and Mario games as a kid, but I preferred 2 and 3 because I love co-op.
But didn't Japan have an easier version of Streets of Rage and Rocket Knight than America?
Don't think people today are lazy, just if something is annoying and will ultimately amount to nothing...then what's the point in playing? It's pointless if it ain't fun lol
Is it strange that I passed this game on my first try yesterday a really good game in my opinion
Nice work! It's a bit strange since the final areas of the game usually take a few tries to get through. You must just be a really skilled player.
Gamer intuition I guess!
i subbed you talk like the completionist
And if you keep it up reckon you will be going places you got the voice and skill for this
@@kakarotyung7056 Thanks! The Completionist huh? I know who that is, but I've never actually watched any of his content. Guess I'll need to change that.
@@kakarotyung7056 Lol. I hear that a lot, but its been a super slow burn. Been at this for years now, though the early stuff is garbage.
This was one of the first games I ever played in the first console I ever owned (bought it at a flea market before I got a Playstation), and spend countless hours trying to beat it up before I gave up. Manage to beat the water level to get to the 3rd level before my lives ran out. I'm surprised I made it that far since I really didn't like hard games, and honestly don't think I would had fare better with other "good" hard games like Megaman or Ninja Gaiden, but considering how much I tolerate TMNT and trying to win over and over again maybe I would fare better.
That's interesting. TMNT 3 on the NES was my first game on the system, so when I ended up getting this one I pretty much ignored it because it was only single playered. I never could have beat TMNT as a kid, and I don't have the patience to do it now, but I did beat it a few years ago (Shredder is the easiest part of the game). Also, I feel like Megaman is easier because it feels more fair. Ninja Gaiden is brutal though.
I wish this game got the redaction treatment that Simon's quest got.
Leo and Mikey having equal power to Don if not more and Raph being the strongest to compensate for his short reach
That would definitely improve the game a lot. If only.