I just understood the dad from "The Wizard" saying he got the scroll weapon and beat the mega turtle. I thought he was always talking nonsense. Turns out he got further than I ever did and knew what he was doing. Now I know which parent Jimmy got his talent from.
That movie was so ahead of us that we didn't even know Tobey Maguire was in Lucas Barton's gang of friends at Universal Studios until you read this comment.
It’s nice to see some actual consistency in the writing, but such moments still fly under the radar when you have stuff like “he hasn’t even been hit!” (when the Ninja Gaiden lifebar clearly shows damage taken) or “50,000 in Double Dragon!”
i remember being haunted by this game at 6 years old. my best friend and i vowed to beat it at 12 with zero insider knowledge. i took the controller at the underwater zone and died in the electric plants. he was so pissed at me that we got into a pretty heated argument and stopped being friends. these secrets have been long awaited.
Hey, this is your old buddy. Long time no see. I just wanted to say that it wasn't the argument that made me not want to hang out with you anymore. It was because your house smelled like dog feces and your dad would always stare at me creepily. I was also disturbed by your infactuation with the New Kids on the Block. Maybe I should have kept talking to you. It was wrong for me to judge.
I've been trying to get a fully functional rom for this game but i'm sadly out of luck, everytime i get to the technodrome it just blacks out and never returns, does any of you know of a good copy?
Fun glitch I discovered years ago: as long as one turtle has scrolls, every other sub-weapon can do scroll damage. To do this, have your turtle of choice throw their sub-weapon, then switch to the turtle with the scrolls before the star, boomerang or whatever hits its target. (The scrolls must be turned on too, or the sub-weapon will only do as much damage as the base weapon). That midair shot will do as much damage as a scroll.
My mate’s dad beat this when we were about 8 years old. We watched him in absolute awe from start to finish. I still remember hi fiving him in the living room and heralding him as a hero for the next ten years.
@@chocolateface8664 Strangely enough he managed to squeeze this game session in between 12 hour shifts at the local copper works. He’s dead now but a great memory of a great bloke.
The "just walk over it" gap is even more cheesable. You can actually jump from the ground and reach it. You jump and hold left at the peak of your jump.
i sometimes would have trouble making that jump, and sometimes hit it right away, usually well worth the skip tho, the jumping and hitboxes in this game, everything is so jank.....D
if you lose a turtle on the damn section, you do go back to the start and your timer is reset but any bombs you disarmed will stay disarmed. my overly cautious younger self used that trick to not feel the pressure of the timer, and level 3 has a turtle rescue point that's easy to get to
You HAVE to make "You'll probably die a lot, but you'll eventually beat it. I believe in you." a tagline for the series, Ryu. You HAVE to do that. Edit: Thanks for the heart, man. Love your content, longtime watcher. Hope you have a wonderful day.
@@PianoHypnoshroom I didn't know that. It makes sense though. Otherwise, someone could make a really good comment, Ryu hearts it, then the OP edits it to say something triflin and it looks like Ryu hearted the triflin comment instead.
Ryu at beginning: "This isn't very hard, we're gonna debunk the difficulty." Ryu half a dozen times: "Now this stage/part/boss is hard as hell, you've gotta be super careful."
@@boydstephensmithjr well actually he showed how you can just spam win the game so I wouldn't really call that hard not to mention almost every boss has an exploit so unless you are just so bad at games you can't get to the 3rd part which I did that even as a ~8yo and I'm not that great at games I would argue that the hardest part is the janky jumps
This was one of the first games I had on NES. I never thought it was that hard until the technodrome with a couple parts of some levels being BS and glitchy but still not that bad until the last level.
it was tough getting to the final level at the beginning, but eventually I was able to get there consistently. the final yellow hallway was the part that always got me because I didn't know about the ducking trick to make those astronaut guys fly away
@@hypnos9336 I had to overcome the hoarder mentality to finally beat it. Kept trying to go through without using the scrolls and such. Never knew about the ducking trick though. Lol, would have been so helpful.
As a kid my friends older brother got to the technodrome once, with all of us watching in amazement. he died, and I never saw the technodrome again or anything farther on in this game as a kid. :(
It was never the enemies for me, it was always the jumping. I always got stuck in the sewers trying to jump over gaps with low ceilings and failing over and over and over
29:20 - to be such a pro that with half a square health you confidently know where to align your turtle within a pixel's reach of the hardest boss of the game. I only wonder how many millions of times this man beat this game to improve so much. pure dedication.
hardest boss in the game? lol you can literally stand on the ledge above and attack straight every time he jumps up to you. he's the easiest boss in the game for me.
Shredder is not a tough boss. He can be easily beaten with any turtle as he's one enemy in the game that suffers from knockback damage when he's hit. He's quite anti climatic infact. If you don't have any throwing weapons to spam, just wait for him to drop down, and hop back up once he comes down, and just keep hitting him as he leaps back up. He will get knocked down and keep running into your attacks.
@@jacobpeters5458 No, Leo swings quickly and has a large area of coverage you can easily swing rapidly and not miss Shredder. It doesn't matter what hits him, he always staggers from the hits. It just takes longer than using Donnie who you could potentially miss time since he has a slower swing. Shredder isn't that fast of a boss, so you shouldn't have that much trouble landing your swings on him. It's not like he's a floating skull in Castlevania 3 or something that has a hard pattern to guess.
This video was a great help in teaching me strategies for finally beating this game. I played through it yesterday on a live stream (which was a total blast) and gave this video a shout out. 👍
Absolutely love the new series bud. Really enjoy your style of explaining as you play. Looking forward for more! Btw, in the scroll farming section, before dropping in the water to reset the cycle, there's a full pizza one screen over to the left that's basically free. hit that one up anytime any turtles' health gets low while farming, and when you're finished farming scrolls you can leave the area with full health!
The big mouser boss can be cheesed by pausing when it's mouth is fully open. The hit box will stay active when you resume, regardless of whether the mouser opens it's mouth or not.
4:35 i think you can actually jump up there in you jump where your kinda glitched in the wall,i recall somthing like that here,i know this also works for the part you walk across the hole in ground
I remember playing this as a kid and hating how frickin’ hard it was. But as much as I hated the difficulty, I enjoyed all the different modes and the variety in the gameplay. I often wondered why more Nintendo games didn’t mix it up like this.
I had the exact same strategy when I was a kid. An important difference: I was calling the scrolls the "onion slice", 'cause let's face it: it's an onion slice. Finished the game multiple times. It's more a question of problem solving than raw platform skills to me. And trial and errors of course. Here's another NES game I was very proud to finish too, in the good old days: Solstice. If you want something hard, you won't regret it.
Solstice is a really good puzzle game. My brother and I rented it as kids. We had it for 3 days or something and didn't beat it, but still had a good time.
Solstice has the best soundtrack of any NES game in my opinion. Even with the codes I don't think I beat it. I'm not sure I had good enough 3D awareness for that type of game back in the 90s.
Pretty sure I remember in the city portion there's a non-useless building, where you can get back your defeated turtle. Was hoping when Ryu killed Raph, he would show that building.
It's on the other side of the river across from the bottom left of the map. There's a barricade you need destroy with missiles to reach it, but you can then walk across this narrow path that only a turtle can go thru on foot. There's two buildings there. If you cross from left to right, you can use ropes to get over, if you go to the right building, which is where a half pizza and the rescued turtle is. You can't cross to the roofs from right to left, as you won't be able to make the jump. You will fall to the street and take damage.(you can't die from falling off a roof though.) It's easier to just exit the front door as there's no reason to cross between the buildings other than to explore the place for the heck of it. I know this game too well as I explored all the map as a kid. I got stuck on the 3rd level for way longer than I should have. I would always fall into the water in the sewer part before the boss's building. I didn't hop, I would always do a full jump and fall into the water, which put me outside.(why the turtles magically can't swim anymore is anyone's guess.) To be certain there boss wasn't elsewhere, I tore apart the stage to avoid doing what I kept failing at. Once I figured I could do low hops I quickly beat the lvl, and advanced thru rest of the game in a few days.
Extra challenge, beat the game first on medium difficulty. If I remember right, lives will carry over from medium to hard mode if done correctly, netting some much needed bonus lives for the hard mode play through.
9:26 - I never beat the game, but I very much remember getting the 20 boomerangs and throwing 3 at a time, pausing, switching turtles so that each of em had 5.
I did similar, but usually passed off to a turtle that would need them like Raph or Leo. Like trade all 20 to that turtle. I consider the boomerrang to be the second best item after the scroll since they are basically infinite unless you fail to catch them. They do decent damage and helps more in the airport and town levels. But by the dark stage you want to be using scrolls on those ultra hard enemies.
@@JustChrisTM I learned a location to farm them from this video lol. So used to speeding past the van level in my play throughs. As a kid, I was able to get to the dark level and never knew the technodrome thing was random. I'd randomly get scrolls as drops, and usually try to grab a set from airport level, but normally left it to chance. I often got boomerrangs and worked for me and was always excited for those to drop. They do good work against the town area's double boss rush.
Games like TMNT were hard back in the day because you didn't have the internet or save states to help you 'get gud.' A Gen Zer giving simplistic walkthrough help doesn't do much nowadays as there's fifty walkthroughs just like it. Back in the day, if you didn't have the Nintendo Power issue covering the game you want to beat or a Game Genie, you had to do it completely on your own without any help. That's what made the games hard. No internet, few chances to find Nintendo Power back issues, and since we rented more than we owned back then, you only had a couple of days before you had to return it to the video store and on top of that you'd have to share with your siblings so grinding was largely out of the question.
Never seen your work before. This grabbed me pretty much immediately. Chill, detailed, interesting topic with a touch of nostalgia... I shall follow your career with great interest.
Haven't played this game in probably 25 years but I still sat through the whole video; it was very interesting. I was too young to really get anywhere in the game. Lots of nostalgia.
Thank you for doing this. Because of this video I went out and picked up cowabunga collection so I can finally put this game under my belt have a blessed day.
I like how your video is honest. You show mistakes instead of "Just speed run this without any issues, you should be able to beat the game in 1-sec and never take damage or die". Right now, I'm trying to show my son the difference between games with a timer and games without. The scroll tip is really good. I'm one of those weirdos who beats games without using limited items, which is never a great strategy.
If you're trying show people how really play a game, showing a speed run isn't a great learning tool. Speed runs do alot of fragile strategies that new players shouldn't be pushing. They lack the knowledge pool of how bounce back if the speed run path goes south. Most players are better off being on more conservative paths which you can outlast the onslaught if you know where and what to farm. I am not as good at this game as when I was 12, and could swim thru the dam barely getting hit at all, but I farm my way thru this game in my rustiness. Knowing really is half the battle for this game.
I LOVE YOU ryu! With what's all happening in my life, it feels just so awesome to view such amazing content, to see obstacles getting cleared :) Thank you so so much!!
20:20 These aren’t useless buildings, they are the most important in the game. The one in the top left holds quick and easy scrolls and unlimited easy pizza refills in the other.
@@pungisotu You simply walk right by them for the most part. ruclips.net/video/4zelPTYqabc/видео.html Not to self promote, but on my other channel it shows how to walk right by them for the most part. 37 min in for the health refill and 40 min in for the scrolls even with a mistake they are easy.
@@pungisotu Not really, as it’s the building in which Raph most excels in the game, as he can kill everything with one hit. So can Mike at half health, but this vid reveals how easy it is: ruclips.net/video/HVmiPvnhtLA/видео.html
When I was a kid, I always got stuck on stage 3. The underwater bomb diffuse part was always pretty easy. I just never got past stage 3. I haven't played this game since I got the SNES in the very early 90s.
24:30 Raph is literally down the ladder to the right, with not many obstacles in the way, disappointed that his bros didn’t bother to save him. 🤣 Great video! Always fun to see this game dissected. You mentioned speed runs, I’ve gotten my speed run down to 19 minutes, 50 seconds
I cringe HARD at people who say the dam level makes TMNT one of the hardest game ever, it's so easy 😓 I've never beat the pre-shredder hallway without scrolls though. I liked that you kept the small fails in your video, it's more entertaining
One of my favorite turtle games as you can get better with practice . I would like to contradict Ryu claim that only Donatello is useful without scrolls as I found each turtle has situations they are useful in that makes the game more fun to play.
I hated the fire pit in the airport so much. When I was a kid I would play with game genie and infinite energy. But if you get caught in that stupid fire pit the game basically locks up and you have to RESET. ugh.
@tim72184 yesssssssss I specifically remembered this happening to me. I learned my lesson after the first time and in every playthrough after that, I was laser focused during that part.
I passed this, a long time ago, on MAME but I used saved states. I didn't know about the certain one hit kills (other than Donatello) or the scroll farming. It really is pretty easy to keep farming, plus get some health before you dive in the sewer. 😂 Thanks for the tips! I honestly don't think TMNT is a bad game. It's challenging and even somewhat strategic but it's fun once you get the hang of it. Plus the soundtrack is amazing!
X2 I remember only one time that I fight shredder when I was a kid but he kills me, many years later I beat the game. But the last part before shredder is insane 😵
With the underwater section in the dam, there's a critical concept I didn't realise as a kid. You can obviously change your turtle immediately, so if you get bodied by the electric seaweed you can switch so you don't die. When I was a kid, I stuck with a turtle until they died making it a ton harder.
I suggest beard wax instead of beard oil when your beard reaches that length. My beard is right at the length of yours, I keep it this length and trimmed. I get those crazy flyaways and stragglers poking out too but Honest Amish beard wax fixes me right up.
I would love to see an "Adventures of Dino Riki" debunking. I had it as a kid and I remember it being incredibly difficult. Thanks for this series, highly entertaining.
My only gaming flex when I was a kid was beating the water dam. However I would end the level so exhausted I just didn't want to continue playing so I have no idea what the rest of the game looks like 😅
The other Ninja Turtles besides Donatello are not completely useless at all (especially my favorite hero, Michelangelo), since certain enemies can actually be defeated by certain Ninja Turtles easily, which many players always tend to forget.
there is some hidden stats for each turtle, some turtles will deal more dmg the lower their health goes or something I don't really remember, I once saw an in-depth video about it.
it was my favorite. I remember being young...enough to understand BUT I wasnt as versed in games enough to understand that the game I rented from.blockbuster once, looked like this. and I LOVED it. Then I went back, and rented another and it wasn't this good. I liked it..but it wasn't this. then I went back ans rented it again, sisjt mean to. grandma asked if I was sure. played it again...not this one though. went back and rented another...not this. took me to FULLY pay attention and READ and remember the next week and eventually I got this one.. I was 6 when this game came out so I was about 7 when I was renting this and Megaman from blockbuster. it was one of those things thst taught me, from my own experience, to STOP, pay attention, read and understand. anyhow, yes, the character looks..the sprites, is something I loved since WAY back then
@@pointedspider I dunno how. Every time I try to get through I have to resort to save states once I start approaching the late game. You literally need pixel perfect precision and timing for many enemies/rooms.
Cool series. Regarding this game in particular, it's not that it's impossibly difficult; it's just that the game is absurd. The mechanics and the overall feel of everything are out of whack.
The only thing I hate about the scrolls is that another weapon can still appear out of nowhere and if you get it by accident, your no longer have scrolls. I wish this game allowed you to store weapons for later
The hardest part for me was the underwater section. But shit, I beat it when I was a kid and I wasn't even a good gamer. I was just obsessed and persistent!
You have to remember for us kids then we were having to learn everything by trial & error. There were no youtube guides. Actually was more fun that way.
Nice video. Not only did I think that this game was very hard when I played it as a kid, but I literally just learned that you can actually change your turtle in the middle of a mission. I had literally no idea you could do that. That’s how novice I am. But, apparently the new turtle compilation game that is coming out later this year will allow you to pause and rewind if you make a mistake.
I may have missed it but each turtle also gets a damage boost once they are below 50% HP. Don starts to do 20 damage and that kills most enemies one shot.
Watching you play this game made it look easy. I figured out about farming for scrolls back in 90 when I was 14, I first bought my NES and this was the game I bought with it. I feel so old lol, I would like to add that some of the jumps you have to tap the jump button to get across the tight jumps, if you hold the jump button you will always fall.
Good tips in this video… like a most videos I’ve seen they don’t give the full break down of each turtles advantage and disadvantage in their attacks. But, still something that could probably help anyone who hasn’t beaten it yet.
Yes Raph is second strongest when everybody has more than 4 bars of health. When Mike and Leo get 4 bars or under they get stronger. Especially Mike get very strong with fast attack(almost as strong as Donatello)
You know, even as a kid back 1991-1993 I could make it through the first two parts; even the dam didn't bother me much. I never, ever made it past the third world. The difficulty ramps up considerably in that part, and as a kid with no guides, no internet, it can be rough. If and when you find the missiles, how do you use them (I thought back then that you'd use them similar to the shurikens, etc)? And once you realize you can use them in the turtle van, how do you know that you can shoot the barricades? Which barricades do you shoot? If you run out of missiles trial-and-error-ing this part, you have to go back and get more, likely taking a lot of damage. And that's not even touching on the later worlds lol.
I was about 13 when this game came out and was a huge TMNT fan. I was so excited to get this game. I don't think I ever made it past the dam. I completely gave up on the game Of course you would make it look easy. You make the craziest Kaizo levels look smooth.
This game is a classic NES platform hybrid game, if you think about it as far design this game is criminally underrated. I love Arcade beat em ups and the level of detail and fan service but watching this video reminds me that at one point this game and Mega Man 2 were my daily driver games for like a year and a half
Yep that room is 100% shit without the scrolls only hard part in the game, there is a way to glitch the jet pack dudes but very hard to pull off, they come and then instantly leave before shooting you
You got a new sub for the very simple reason of making a playlist, and putting it in the watch order, not reverse order of newest first. IT makes it so much easier to new viewers to consume content, and its so hard to find on youtube nowadays. thanks for the consideration!
I haven't even watched more than 1 min and I can tell you I want more of this. I trust you to make amazing content and I am so ready to watch these games get squashed.
I just like that the video is about debunking how the game is not hard, meanwhile saying all the different punishments the game throws at you if you miss a single jump.
this a great video but i personally dont think it took away from how hard the game was back then. Looking at all the resetting of pizzas and special things you had to do to beat a game just goes to show how much more complex this game was back then with all its bs.
Ooh, sounds like a fun series! I beat TMNT game back in the day. It's really not too bad. The main difficulty is getting through some of the tricky jumps, and that losing Donatello is basically the end of a run.
I played through this in 2018 ad thoroughly enjoyed it. I'd only really seen bad reviews for the game and complaints about the difficulty. I can understand in 1990 how this would anoy fans as they would've wanted the arcade game at the time, but I now believe this is far superior. I went through and it was all about familiarising myself with the game, i'd farm forever, bits of pizza, scrolls etc.. sometimes a game would take me 12+ hours and I knew I wasn't finishing it, but the more familiar you get the shorter the farming time takes in future. Plus I didn't know whats coming, so on the final levels, i'm in there farming 99 scrolls for each turtle (hence why it took so long) i'd barely use a scroll during the game thinking you'd need to be maxed for final boss or whatever. Raph and Michelangelo actually have an advantage on those last levels (Bronx I think it is, where you look for the technodrome) there's these pink alien type things, Raph and Mike can kill them in 1 hit, Don and Leo its multiple. I finally made it to technodrome and still refusing to use the scrolls as i'm a hoarder (I do this with healing potions or strong spells in RPGs too for example) them flying astronaught men were the bane of my existence, I by miracle once made it to the narrow tunnel bit but it felt impossible. One playthrough out of frustration at that bit I just started using scrolls, breezed through it, got to shredder and killed him in about 10 seconds max without taking a hit. Then I realised I was waaay overstocked with scrolls 😄 of course i'd never know that until I got there, but it was like 'man I coulda breezed through that whole technodrome all the times I died there with 99 scrolls for each turtle!' Anyway, it was a fun few months playing the game, I really enjoyed it and think its one of the better games on the NES. great level variety, and difficulty makes it a game you come back to a lot (nothing worse than getting a new game as a kid and finishng it in a weekend!)
For the last stage ,I was reading a walkthrough to see if I can finally beat this game, and it says the enemies spawns you get depends if you kill that one foot soldier who starts behind you. If you kill it, you get the jetpack enemies, if not just normal foot soldiers.
Man this brought back a ton of infuriating memories. I'd LOVE to see you do a debunking vid for Foster's Quest. Arguably one of NES's most difficult games ever!
My father, rest his soul, beat this game regularly when I was kid. I was the TMNT fan and I would sit and watch him. He wasn’t a hardcore gamer but he would latch on to different games and try to learn every detail. He did it with this one, blaster master, goldeneye, perfect dark.
I just understood the dad from "The Wizard" saying he got the scroll weapon and beat the mega turtle. I thought he was always talking nonsense. Turns out he got further than I ever did and knew what he was doing. Now I know which parent Jimmy got his talent from.
I was thinking of that scene too lol.
Mecha-turtle?
That movie was so ahead of us that we didn't even know Tobey Maguire was in Lucas Barton's gang of friends at Universal Studios until you read this comment.
That dad had the power--Nintendo Power!
It’s nice to see some actual consistency in the writing, but such moments still fly under the radar when you have stuff like “he hasn’t even been hit!” (when the Ninja Gaiden lifebar clearly shows damage taken) or “50,000 in Double Dragon!”
i remember being haunted by this game at 6 years old. my best friend and i vowed to beat it at 12 with zero insider knowledge. i took the controller at the underwater zone and died in the electric plants. he was so pissed at me that we got into a pretty heated argument and stopped being friends. these secrets have been long awaited.
Hey, this is your old buddy. Long time no see. I just wanted to say that it wasn't the argument that made me not want to hang out with you anymore. It was because your house smelled like dog feces and your dad would always stare at me creepily. I was also disturbed by your infactuation with the New Kids on the Block. Maybe I should have kept talking to you. It was wrong for me to judge.
Damn dude, thats a sad ass story
Anyone that wants to get far in this game, Ryu's rules are:
1. Get the scrolls
2. Get the scrolls
3. Get the scrolls
You forgot: Taking your time & Resetting the pizzas
@@kitsunami7251 It's just a reference to an old Angry Video Game Nerd quote.
0.5 - Reset the Pizza
I've been trying to get a fully functional rom for this game but i'm sadly out of luck, everytime i get to the technodrome it just blacks out and never returns, does any of you know of a good copy?
1. Get the knife
2. Get the knife
3. GET THE KNIFE
Finally beat this a few years back. Felt like I redeemed my entire childhood!! Great Video.
that level 2 dam level was the rosebud of unpassable levels for me
It has also haunted me for nearly 30 years
Man! I was so frustrated as a kid playing this. Defintely want to give it another shot.
Fun glitch I discovered years ago: as long as one turtle has scrolls, every other sub-weapon can do scroll damage.
To do this, have your turtle of choice throw their sub-weapon, then switch to the turtle with the scrolls before the star, boomerang or whatever hits its target. (The scrolls must be turned on too, or the sub-weapon will only do as much damage as the base weapon). That midair shot will do as much damage as a scroll.
BADASS!
Haha, cool!
Can you do it with boomerangs? Infinitely returning scrolls. 😈
Holy shit!
My mate’s dad beat this when we were about 8 years old. We watched him in absolute awe from start to finish. I still remember hi fiving him in the living room and heralding him as a hero for the next ten years.
what a legend
And then he finally got a job
@@chocolateface8664 Strangely enough he managed to squeeze this game session in between 12 hour shifts at the local copper works. He’s dead now but a great memory of a great bloke.
Rumours has it his old man's score is still top score
He used scrolls? 99 per turtle? I don't see another way
The "just walk over it" gap is even more cheesable. You can actually jump from the ground and reach it. You jump and hold left at the peak of your jump.
i sometimes would have trouble making that jump, and sometimes hit it right away, usually well worth the skip tho, the jumping and hitboxes in this game, everything is so jank.....D
On the PC port of the game, that tight jump at 4:15 is literally impossible, meaning the game cannot be beaten.
Rebunking the Difficulty
I knew there was an impossible jump in the game, but I didn't know where it was. Fantastic playtesting guys.
if you lose a turtle on the damn section, you do go back to the start and your timer is reset but any bombs you disarmed will stay disarmed. my overly cautious younger self used that trick to not feel the pressure of the timer, and level 3 has a turtle rescue point that's easy to get to
You HAVE to make "You'll probably die a lot, but you'll eventually beat it. I believe in you." a tagline for the series, Ryu. You HAVE to do that.
Edit: Thanks for the heart, man. Love your content, longtime watcher. Hope you have a wonderful day.
100% agree, should be the outro everytime 😂
DONT TELL HIM WHAT TO DO!!!
rip dont edit your comment, removes the heart
@@PianoHypnoshroom Good to know! Glad he rehearted it then. Didn't know it did that.
@@PianoHypnoshroom I didn't know that. It makes sense though. Otherwise, someone could make a really good comment, Ryu hearts it, then the OP edits it to say something triflin and it looks like Ryu hearted the triflin comment instead.
I was stuck in the final hallway, watching this video, and the last little bit was so easy after learning the tricks. Finally I beat it!
Ryu at beginning: "This isn't very hard, we're gonna debunk the difficulty."
Ryu half a dozen times: "Now this stage/part/boss is hard as hell, you've gotta be super careful."
Ya but this is an easier classic game compared to the others is what I think he was meaning
Yeah, maybe "Demystifying the Difficulty" is a better, still alliterative, name.
Even at the end, Ryu's like: this game is still f'n hard.
@@boydstephensmithjr well actually he showed how you can just spam win the game so I wouldn't really call that hard not to mention almost every boss has an exploit so unless you are just so bad at games you can't get to the 3rd part which I did that even as a ~8yo and I'm not that great at games I would argue that the hardest part is the janky jumps
I think he just wants to show that anyone can beat these games. They're not all omg impossible.
There is a difference between hard, but beatable versus hard and impossible. Which is the distinction he is trying to make with this series I think.
the Cowabunga collection has a rewind option if you screw up a jump or fall, I abused the hell out of it
This was one of the first games I had on NES. I never thought it was that hard until the technodrome with a couple parts of some levels being BS and glitchy but still not that bad until the last level.
Right! It's funny how people say the bomb-defusing is so hard, when that's still on easy street compared to what's coming! :^D
A lot of us are going to be reliving these frustrating controller breaking moments on updated hardware this Christmas !!!
it was tough getting to the final level at the beginning, but eventually I was able to get there consistently. the final yellow hallway was the part that always got me because I didn't know about the ducking trick to make those astronaut guys fly away
@@hypnos9336 I had to overcome the hoarder mentality to finally beat it. Kept trying to go through without using the scrolls and such. Never knew about the ducking trick though. Lol, would have been so helpful.
As a kid my friends older brother got to the technodrome once, with all of us watching in amazement. he died, and I never saw the technodrome again or anything farther on in this game as a kid. :(
It was never the enemies for me, it was always the jumping. I always got stuck in the sewers trying to jump over gaps with low ceilings and failing over and over and over
The glitch demonstration at 24:00 was pretty funny, I love that you completely forgot about how people could get softlocked until the last second
Yeah that « keep pressing right » info came a bit late, gotta say 😂
29:20 - to be such a pro that with half a square health you confidently know where to align your turtle within a pixel's reach of the hardest boss of the game. I only wonder how many millions of times this man beat this game to improve so much. pure dedication.
hardest boss in the game? lol you can literally stand on the ledge above and attack straight every time he jumps up to you. he's the easiest boss in the game for me.
@@hypnos9336 yeah if you don't miss. kind of like how you can win the lottery just by filling in the numbers. they just have to be the right ones
Shredder is not a tough boss. He can be easily beaten with any turtle as he's one enemy in the game that suffers from knockback damage when he's hit. He's quite anti climatic infact. If you don't have any throwing weapons to spam, just wait for him to drop down, and hop back up once he comes down, and just keep hitting him as he leaps back up. He will get knocked down and keep running into your attacks.
@@hypnos9336 Exactly, Shredder is a scrub in this game. The fact he suffers from knockback, unlike the rest of the bosses makes him a joke.
@@jacobpeters5458 No, Leo swings quickly and has a large area of coverage you can easily swing rapidly and not miss Shredder. It doesn't matter what hits him, he always staggers from the hits. It just takes longer than using Donnie who you could potentially miss time since he has a slower swing. Shredder isn't that fast of a boss, so you shouldn't have that much trouble landing your swings on him. It's not like he's a floating skull in Castlevania 3 or something that has a hard pattern to guess.
This video was a great help in teaching me strategies for finally beating this game. I played through it yesterday on a live stream (which was a total blast) and gave this video a shout out. 👍
The main jump for the tank level used to piss me off hard jump to do but after playing this for so long it’s easy now
Absolutely love the new series bud. Really enjoy your style of explaining as you play. Looking forward for more! Btw, in the scroll farming section, before dropping in the water to reset the cycle, there's a full pizza one screen over to the left that's basically free. hit that one up anytime any turtles' health gets low while farming, and when you're finished farming scrolls you can leave the area with full health!
The big mouser boss can be cheesed by pausing when it's mouth is fully open. The hit box will stay active when you resume, regardless of whether the mouser opens it's mouth or not.
4:35 i think you can actually jump up there in you jump where your kinda glitched in the wall,i recall somthing like that here,i know this also works for the part you walk across the hole in ground
I remember playing this as a kid and hating how frickin’ hard it was. But as much as I hated the difficulty, I enjoyed all the different modes and the variety in the gameplay. I often wondered why more Nintendo games didn’t mix it up like this.
You can also stand on the ledge and kill shredder with Don. Shredder keeps jumping up and you just hit him until you beat him. Cool video!
You can do it with all the turtles...
I had the exact same strategy when I was a kid. An important difference: I was calling the scrolls the "onion slice", 'cause let's face it: it's an onion slice.
Finished the game multiple times. It's more a question of problem solving than raw platform skills to me. And trial and errors of course.
Here's another NES game I was very proud to finish too, in the good old days: Solstice. If you want something hard, you won't regret it.
oh god.... that game is sooo intricate and tricky, I remember pausing and having to put in those long annoying codes so many times lol.
Solstice is a really good puzzle game. My brother and I rented it as kids. We had it for 3 days or something and didn't beat it, but still had a good time.
Solstice has the best soundtrack of any NES game in my opinion.
Even with the codes I don't think I beat it. I'm not sure I had good enough 3D awareness for that type of game back in the 90s.
My dad had this on the actual floppy floppy disc back in the day. I remember playing this once in a while on his PC.
This was insanely fun to watch!
Wow you a big RUclipsr and no one comments?
They were too busy watching The Video Game Years
@ROFLCOPTERLOL whats yours?
Pretty sure I remember in the city portion there's a non-useless building, where you can get back your defeated turtle. Was hoping when Ryu killed Raph, he would show that building.
It's on the other side of the river across from the bottom left of the map. There's a barricade you need destroy with missiles to reach it, but you can then walk across this narrow path that only a turtle can go thru on foot. There's two buildings there. If you cross from left to right, you can use ropes to get over, if you go to the right building, which is where a half pizza and the rescued turtle is. You can't cross to the roofs from right to left, as you won't be able to make the jump. You will fall to the street and take damage.(you can't die from falling off a roof though.) It's easier to just exit the front door as there's no reason to cross between the buildings other than to explore the place for the heck of it.
I know this game too well as I explored all the map as a kid. I got stuck on the 3rd level for way longer than I should have. I would always fall into the water in the sewer part before the boss's building. I didn't hop, I would always do a full jump and fall into the water, which put me outside.(why the turtles magically can't swim anymore is anyone's guess.) To be certain there boss wasn't elsewhere, I tore apart the stage to avoid doing what I kept failing at. Once I figured I could do low hops I quickly beat the lvl, and advanced thru rest of the game in a few days.
Love the new series!!! Hoping to see Contra 3: The Alien Wars (SNES). Obviously on Hard Mode cuz Easy & Normal are very beatable
+1
I usually have a good run with that game, but lose a lot of lives on the helicopter fight.
@@PSBore yeah for me it's the level right after (level 5 aka: the 2nd of the top down view ones) The boss destroys me every time.
That game makes Dark Souls look like Kirby.
Extra challenge, beat the game first on medium difficulty. If I remember right, lives will carry over from medium to hard mode if done correctly, netting some much needed bonus lives for the hard mode play through.
2:03 it's because back in the day, game devs didn't know crap about making characters balanced.
9:26 - I never beat the game, but I very much remember getting the 20 boomerangs and throwing 3 at a time, pausing, switching turtles so that each of em had 5.
I did similar, but usually passed off to a turtle that would need them like Raph or Leo. Like trade all 20 to that turtle. I consider the boomerrang to be the second best item after the scroll since they are basically infinite unless you fail to catch them. They do decent damage and helps more in the airport and town levels. But by the dark stage you want to be using scrolls on those ultra hard enemies.
@@NintendoFuse_Greg Sadly I didn't realize scrolls were S-tier until this video.
@@JustChrisTM I learned a location to farm them from this video lol. So used to speeding past the van level in my play throughs. As a kid, I was able to get to the dark level and never knew the technodrome thing was random. I'd randomly get scrolls as drops, and usually try to grab a set from airport level, but normally left it to chance. I often got boomerrangs and worked for me and was always excited for those to drop. They do good work against the town area's double boss rush.
Games like TMNT were hard back in the day because you didn't have the internet or save states to help you 'get gud.' A Gen Zer giving simplistic walkthrough help doesn't do much nowadays as there's fifty walkthroughs just like it. Back in the day, if you didn't have the Nintendo Power issue covering the game you want to beat or a Game Genie, you had to do it completely on your own without any help. That's what made the games hard. No internet, few chances to find Nintendo Power back issues, and since we rented more than we owned back then, you only had a couple of days before you had to return it to the video store and on top of that you'd have to share with your siblings so grinding was largely out of the question.
Never seen your work before. This grabbed me pretty much immediately.
Chill, detailed, interesting topic with a touch of nostalgia...
I shall follow your career with great interest.
You should check out his main channel, he's a super mario pro. ruclips.net/user/ryukahr
Cheese is a huge part of Ryu's whole presentation, so I hope you aren't lactose intolerant.
Enjoy his back catalog my friend, hundreds of great videos.
welcome to the channel 😄
Welcome.. i recommend subscribing to his first channel and checking out the “extraordinarily hard games” series. Enjoy
Next one of the list : Bucky O'hare?
Amazing game. Great soundtrack.
Not as hard as the hardest ones but definitely a challenge for most.
Haven't played this game in probably 25 years but I still sat through the whole video; it was very interesting. I was too young to really get anywhere in the game. Lots of nostalgia.
Thank you for doing this. Because of this video I went out and picked up cowabunga collection so I can finally put this game under my belt have a blessed day.
Man, this was one of my very first games as a child. Such nostalgia.
I like how your video is honest. You show mistakes instead of "Just speed run this without any issues, you should be able to beat the game in 1-sec and never take damage or die". Right now, I'm trying to show my son the difference between games with a timer and games without.
The scroll tip is really good. I'm one of those weirdos who beats games without using limited items, which is never a great strategy.
He's still an arrogant prick with this game though
If you're trying show people how really play a game, showing a speed run isn't a great learning tool. Speed runs do alot of fragile strategies that new players shouldn't be pushing. They lack the knowledge pool of how bounce back if the speed run path goes south. Most players are better off being on more conservative paths which you can outlast the onslaught if you know where and what to farm. I am not as good at this game as when I was 12, and could swim thru the dam barely getting hit at all, but I farm my way thru this game in my rustiness. Knowing really is half the battle for this game.
I LOVE YOU ryu! With what's all happening in my life, it feels just so awesome to view such amazing content, to see obstacles getting cleared :)
Thank you so so much!!
What's happening in your life?
Just kidding, i don't care
There's also a place in level 3 to recover a lost turtle. It's a little out of the way, but if you really need him back, it's worth it.
20:20 These aren’t useless buildings, they are the most important in the game. The one in the top left holds quick and easy scrolls and unlimited easy pizza refills in the other.
Easy? The scrolls are guarded by those pain in the ass spider things. Level 3 is infinitely easier to get those scrolls.
@@pungisotu You simply walk right by them for the most part. ruclips.net/video/4zelPTYqabc/видео.html Not to self promote, but on my other channel it shows how to walk right by them for the most part. 37 min in for the health refill and 40 min in for the scrolls even with a mistake they are easy.
@@pungisotu Not really, as it’s the building in which Raph most excels in the game, as he can kill everything with one hit.
So can Mike at half health, but this vid reveals how easy it is:
ruclips.net/video/HVmiPvnhtLA/видео.html
@@osurpless good stuff. I’ll try it next time.
When I was a kid, I always got stuck on stage 3. The underwater bomb diffuse part was always pretty easy. I just never got past stage 3. I haven't played this game since I got the SNES in the very early 90s.
Most people will never cook this game it is very very hard to beat.
Aww I'm sorry you gave up so easily
24:30
Raph is literally down the ladder to the right, with not many obstacles in the way, disappointed that his bros didn’t bother to save him. 🤣
Great video! Always fun to see this game dissected. You mentioned speed runs, I’ve gotten my speed run down to 19 minutes, 50 seconds
Exactly wtf
I cringe HARD at people who say the dam level makes TMNT one of the hardest game ever, it's so easy 😓 I've never beat the pre-shredder hallway without scrolls though.
I liked that you kept the small fails in your video, it's more entertaining
One of my favorite turtle games as you can get better with practice .
I would like to contradict Ryu claim that only Donatello is useful without scrolls as I found each turtle has situations they are useful in that makes the game more fun to play.
There are certain enemies that Raph and Mike can kill in 1 or 2 hits where Don and Leo take 2 or 3
I hated the fire pit in the airport so much. When I was a kid I would play with game genie and infinite energy. But if you get caught in that stupid fire pit the game basically locks up and you have to RESET. ugh.
18:34 summarizes this whole game.
I laughed so hard 😂😂😂
As a kid, I Game Genied my way to EXACTLY that moment, and my invincibility caused the game to glitch and freeze. I was very, very unhappy.
@tim72184 yesssssssss I specifically remembered this happening to me. I learned my lesson after the first time and in every playthrough after that, I was laser focused during that part.
I passed this, a long time ago, on MAME but I used saved states. I didn't know about the certain one hit kills (other than Donatello) or the scroll farming. It really is pretty easy to keep farming, plus get some health before you dive in the sewer. 😂 Thanks for the tips! I honestly don't think TMNT is a bad game. It's challenging and even somewhat strategic but it's fun once you get the hang of it. Plus the soundtrack is amazing!
Lol this is one game from my childhood that i will never forget as being one of the HARDEST games I ever played.
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I remember only one time that I fight shredder when I was a kid but he kills me, many years later I beat the game. But the last part before shredder is insane 😵
With the underwater section in the dam, there's a critical concept I didn't realise as a kid. You can obviously change your turtle immediately, so if you get bodied by the electric seaweed you can switch so you don't die. When I was a kid, I stuck with a turtle until they died making it a ton harder.
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I suggest beard wax instead of beard oil when your beard reaches that length. My beard is right at the length of yours, I keep it this length and trimmed. I get those crazy flyaways and stragglers poking out too but Honest Amish beard wax fixes me right up.
God, this brings back memories. Not all pleasant either.
would _you_ eat half of a pizza you found lying around in the sewer? one that seems to reappear every time you go back down there?
I would love to see an "Adventures of Dino Riki" debunking. I had it as a kid and I remember it being incredibly difficult. Thanks for this series, highly entertaining.
My only gaming flex when I was a kid was beating the water dam. However I would end the level so exhausted I just didn't want to continue playing so I have no idea what the rest of the game looks like 😅
The other Ninja Turtles besides Donatello are not completely useless at all (especially my favorite hero, Michelangelo), since certain enemies can actually be defeated by certain Ninja Turtles easily, which many players always tend to forget.
there is some hidden stats for each turtle, some turtles will deal more dmg the lower their health goes or something I don't really remember, I once saw an in-depth video about it.
Loved the cheese shredder line at the end
Anyone claiming The Dam is difficult has never played this game.
The turtle sprites for this game are so endearing... especially, in the over-world.
it was my favorite. I remember being young...enough to understand BUT I wasnt as versed in games enough to understand that the game I rented from.blockbuster once, looked like this. and I LOVED it.
Then I went back, and rented another and it wasn't this good. I liked it..but it wasn't this.
then I went back ans rented it again, sisjt mean to. grandma asked if I was sure. played it again...not this one though.
went back and rented another...not this.
took me to FULLY pay attention and READ and remember the next week and eventually I got this one..
I was 6 when this game came out so I was about 7 when I was renting this and Megaman from blockbuster.
it was one of those things thst taught me, from my own experience, to STOP, pay attention, read and understand.
anyhow, yes, the character looks..the sprites, is something I loved since WAY back then
After 30 years I finally beat this game, thanks to Ryu!
12:51 the ninja stars aren't actually dinky. I found out as a kid that you can stun lock Shredder into dying just using the ninja stars against him.
Love this! Massively helpful! I’m hoping to see Ghosts ‘n Goblins in this series as I’ve never figured how to beat that one.
Man, I have so many strong childhood memories of this game. Not sure if they're good memories... but they're memories.
Cool idea and great walkthrough- very to the point. Would love to see you do one for Zelda 2.
I literally just left this exact comment. I love Zelda ll. And have never found it difficult!
@@pointedspider I dunno how. Every time I try to get through I have to resort to save states once I start approaching the late game. You literally need pixel perfect precision and timing for many enemies/rooms.
@@pointedspider nah, too easy
I played Zelda 2 for a podcast episode I did. I actually ended up enjoying the game
@@thenonexistinghero it's entirely too easy. I guess I just know where everything is. I've never beaten it less than 100%. And can do it in 2 hrs!
Cool series. Regarding this game in particular, it's not that it's impossibly difficult; it's just that the game is absurd. The mechanics and the overall feel of everything are out of whack.
I would love to see more of this series. Do some more Ryukahr it was enjoying to watch.
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The only thing I hate about the scrolls is that another weapon can still appear out of nowhere and if you get it by accident, your no longer have scrolls. I wish this game allowed you to store weapons for later
Love this series idea.
Where did you get those moving frames with FF1 and Megaman?
online
The hardest part for me was the underwater section. But shit, I beat it when I was a kid and I wasn't even a good gamer. I was just obsessed and persistent!
You have to remember for us kids then we were having to learn everything by trial & error. There were no youtube guides. Actually was more fun that way.
Nice video. Not only did I think that this game was very hard when I played it as a kid, but I literally just learned that you can actually change your turtle in the middle of a mission. I had literally no idea you could do that. That’s how novice I am. But, apparently the new turtle compilation game that is coming out later this year will allow you to pause and rewind if you make a mistake.
I was one of the few that did beat this as a kid, but you actually did show me a few things I didn't know.
Ohman! Thank you so much for doing this. This unfinished game has been haunting me for nearly 3 decades now. Now I can die in peace. 😇
I may have missed it but each turtle also gets a damage boost once they are below 50% HP. Don starts to do 20 damage and that kills most enemies one shot.
Raph doesnt
Watching you play this game made it look easy. I figured out about farming for scrolls back in 90 when I was 14, I first bought my NES and this was the game I bought with it. I feel so old lol, I would like to add that some of the jumps you have to tap the jump button to get across the tight jumps, if you hold the jump button you will always fall.
Good tips in this video… like a most videos I’ve seen they don’t give the full break down of each turtles advantage and disadvantage in their attacks. But, still something that could probably help anyone who hasn’t beaten it yet.
The only TMNT game that I thought was horrible. Good video man👊🏿
Raph is actually better than Leo in many places since he can also one shot certain enemies since he's the second strongest.
Yes Raph is second strongest when everybody has more than 4 bars of health. When Mike and Leo get 4 bars or under they get stronger. Especially Mike get very strong with fast attack(almost as strong as Donatello)
No one seems to realize that different turtles are strong against specific enemies
You know, even as a kid back 1991-1993 I could make it through the first two parts; even the dam didn't bother me much.
I never, ever made it past the third world. The difficulty ramps up considerably in that part, and as a kid with no guides, no internet, it can be rough. If and when you find the missiles, how do you use them (I thought back then that you'd use them similar to the shurikens, etc)? And once you realize you can use them in the turtle van, how do you know that you can shoot the barricades? Which barricades do you shoot? If you run out of missiles trial-and-error-ing this part, you have to go back and get more, likely taking a lot of damage. And that's not even touching on the later worlds lol.
Go back to 1989 and have no internet to help you and you will want to punch your TV after playing this game for a while
I was about 13 when this game came out and was a huge TMNT fan. I was so excited to get this game. I don't think I ever made it past the dam. I completely gave up on the game Of course you would make it look easy. You make the craziest Kaizo levels look smooth.
This game is a classic NES platform hybrid game, if you think about it as far design this game is criminally underrated. I love Arcade beat em ups and the level of detail and fan service but watching this video reminds me that at one point this game and Mega Man 2 were my daily driver games for like a year and a half
Yep that room is 100% shit without the scrolls only hard part in the game, there is a way to glitch the jet pack dudes but very hard to pull off, they come and then instantly leave before shooting you
Some of the reason we thought these games were so hard was the fact we tried rushing thru them with no patience lol.
You got a new sub for the very simple reason of making a playlist, and putting it in the watch order, not reverse order of newest first. IT makes it so much easier to new viewers to consume content, and its so hard to find on youtube nowadays. thanks for the consideration!
I haven't even watched more than 1 min and I can tell you I want more of this. I trust you to make amazing content and I am so ready to watch these games get squashed.
The level after dam is easy none of this is hard until you try to reach shredder that small walk way is a nightmare to get through
I just like that the video is about debunking how the game is not hard, meanwhile saying all the different punishments the game throws at you if you miss a single jump.
this a great video but i personally dont think it took away from how hard the game was back then. Looking at all the resetting of pizzas and special things you had to do to beat a game just goes to show how much more complex this game was back then with all its bs.
Ooh, sounds like a fun series! I beat TMNT game back in the day. It's really not too bad. The main difficulty is getting through some of the tricky jumps, and that losing Donatello is basically the end of a run.
I beat this younger then 10 years old fuck it took me 2 years I didn’t give up. I’m 43 now. Only beat this game twice in my life.
I played through this in 2018 ad thoroughly enjoyed it. I'd only really seen bad reviews for the game and complaints about the difficulty. I can understand in 1990 how this would anoy fans as they would've wanted the arcade game at the time, but I now believe this is far superior.
I went through and it was all about familiarising myself with the game, i'd farm forever, bits of pizza, scrolls etc.. sometimes a game would take me 12+ hours and I knew I wasn't finishing it, but the more familiar you get the shorter the farming time takes in future. Plus I didn't know whats coming, so on the final levels, i'm in there farming 99 scrolls for each turtle (hence why it took so long) i'd barely use a scroll during the game thinking you'd need to be maxed for final boss or whatever. Raph and Michelangelo actually have an advantage on those last levels (Bronx I think it is, where you look for the technodrome) there's these pink alien type things, Raph and Mike can kill them in 1 hit, Don and Leo its multiple.
I finally made it to technodrome and still refusing to use the scrolls as i'm a hoarder (I do this with healing potions or strong spells in RPGs too for example) them flying astronaught men were the bane of my existence, I by miracle once made it to the narrow tunnel bit but it felt impossible. One playthrough out of frustration at that bit I just started using scrolls, breezed through it, got to shredder and killed him in about 10 seconds max without taking a hit. Then I realised I was waaay overstocked with scrolls 😄 of course i'd never know that until I got there, but it was like 'man I coulda breezed through that whole technodrome all the times I died there with 99 scrolls for each turtle!'
Anyway, it was a fun few months playing the game, I really enjoyed it and think its one of the better games on the NES. great level variety, and difficulty makes it a game you come back to a lot (nothing worse than getting a new game as a kid and finishng it in a weekend!)
Let's see Ninja Gaiden, don't think there's no way to debunk that game.
For the last stage ,I was reading a walkthrough to see if I can finally beat this game, and it says the enemies spawns you get depends if you kill that one foot soldier who starts behind you. If you kill it, you get the jetpack enemies, if not just normal foot soldiers.
Man this brought back a ton of infuriating memories. I'd LOVE to see you do a debunking vid for Foster's Quest. Arguably one of NES's most difficult games ever!
This video just brought back so many memories... of throwing my remote at the TV. I didn't beat stage 3 until I was in my 20's.
I beat this game on Commodore 64 when it was brand new. 😅
34 years of hindsight later, and abusing cheese strts, "DeBuNkInG tHe DiFiCulTy - TeEnAGe MuTaNT NInJA TuRTleS (NeS)"
My father, rest his soul, beat this game regularly when I was kid. I was the TMNT fan and I would sit and watch him. He wasn’t a hardcore gamer but he would latch on to different games and try to learn every detail. He did it with this one, blaster master, goldeneye, perfect dark.