Debunking the Difficulty - Mega Man (NES)
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Can’t grab power ups with Cutmans ability. I think you’re thinking of Boomer Kuwangers ability from Mega Man X, Ryu.
I was thinking of Cutter ability Kirby lol
There's a couple of other sources too! Ring boomerang, specifically in mega man IV on gameboy, and your rocket fist after an upgrade in mega man V on gameboy, will also grab items for you
I Think In Megaman 8 Does The Same With Cutman Grabing PowerUPS……..
Just want say, loving the new debunk series. Lots of nostalgia... Lots of pain.
The way I dealt with the clone fight was I actually used the magnet item, he doesn’t shoot when it’s equipped. So you can then buffer between items and get in some cheap shots, and he’s completely powerless.
didn't know that! will have to give that a try during speedruns 😈
Same thing with Guts Man's ability. With that equipped, the Clone still can't do anything because there are no blocks in the room to pick up and throw.
Also, I don't think the Clone actually has a weakness... but doing the pause glitch with the Thunder Beam weapon is a lot easier to take him out with than the Fire Storm!
@@bardinblue9830 I think the thing speaking for fire is that he likes to try and jump you, but the fire shield you get will push him back away and save you damage taken. Apart from that I'd imagine most weapons are similar in efficiency.
Good point! That's definitely part of the charm of Mega Man, the weapons being versatile in their uses. :)
21:03 If you run out of Magnet Beam in this room, you can actually go back down the ladder to respawn more weapon energy in the previous room. I highly recommend just topping off the Magnet Beam here just to play it safe.
This is the way! It's easy to mess around and use up too much of your beam there.
Mega man 1 is the only game where energy respawns, which is a weird deccission that makes the game slightly easier
@@Red_Biker_Dude I never thought about that, but you're right. Well, the pause trick also makes the game even easier, but that is just a glitch. 😅
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Honestly I kind of wish they kept that for the rest of the series. A few bosses in Megaman 2 become unbeatable if you run out of their weakness weapon (the Boobeam trap in the 4th Wily stage, and the final boss alien), and you have to intentionally get a game over to get your weapon energy back.
@@MishKoz that would also remove any need for weapon management, you would be able to use the weapons as much as you like. Here's a better solution: don't make bosses like boo beam trap
We’d love to see Debunking the Difficulty of Ghosts 'n Goblins 😍🔥
Agreed. At the least it's Debunking the Annoyance lol
*The most annoying game ever.* 😄
Yes!!!!!
Ghosts N' Goblins is the most difficult game in my opinion on the NES.
@@stacychamness9077 maybe, if you played like 10 games total....
depending on where you lived, Europe had close to 350 games,
while in the USA, they had a little under 680.
not even counting any unlicensed shit...
Took me 30 years to beat this game lol. Felt so great to finally get this one in the bank
Same! I just beat it last weekend for the first time ever. I didn't even use the pause glitch. I never could beat the yellow devil as a kid back in the 90s.
@@TheVoodooVegetableCan you give me tips on how to beat Yellow Demon?
I like how you play these, even showing all your mistakes. I think it gives a more realistic expectation of how an average player might play the games. I really enjoy this series!
Mega Man X has the item grab with Boomer Kuwanger's power. I missed out on the NES mega man series, definitely would like to go back and play these.
Also, I'm loving this series of debunking difficulty.
ahhh yes that is definitely what i was thinking of!
They made a collection for megaman 1-8 but 10 is xbox exclusive and not sure about 9
@@dankscytheok8864 appreciate the information, I'll look into snagging those
@@dankscytheok8864 The Mega Man Legacy Collection has Mega Man 1-6 for the NES and the Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 contains parts 7-10.
I think you can dash jump to that item but it's tricky af
For a casual like myself, this game is plenty infuriating.
In Mega Man X you can grab power ups with the boomerang you get from Boomer Kuwanger. That’s probably what you’re thinking of.
Mega Man X is one of favorite games to play on the anniversary collection.
@@stacychamness9077 same here. It's the one that was prominent in my childhood, even if I grew up playing the originals.
For the beginning of Wily 2, I personally like the Fire Storm because the flames that circle around you are very good at killing the enemies before they can fly into you.
I agree
your debunking the difficulty has probably been one of my favorite series to watch when it comes to gaming videos on youtube in general
There was no internet to find out how to beat the game, and there was no way to save the game. You had to complete the game in one sitting.
Technically Megaman 2 added “easy” mode titled “normal”. In Japan, Rockman 2, had no difficulty selection and was equal to the Megaman 2’s “difficult” (hard) mode. Think the recent ones, Megaman 9+ is where it had difficulty modes.
Mega Man 2 on hard difficulty is much not as hard as Mega Man.
In the original MM, if you get hit by an enemy and knocked back into spikes, you still die. You don't have invincibility frames with spikes in MM1. Future MM games changed this.
I've been loving this series! I always struggled with Paperboy on the NES but I could just be bad
Paperboy was my first NES game other than Mario/duck hunt cart. I remember I made it to Sunday. The weekend levels were so tough.
I had a bootleg NES on a chip console from a flea market, and I've played Paperboy a lot over the years but have never actually seen it beaten. Tried a few months ago and still couldn't get very far. Would love to see him cover that game.
paperboy is on my list for sure. at least to beat lol
@@filth_nasty I beat it :)
You're not alone. I could never make it past Thursday
Zelda 2. Probably my favorite NES game and it would be cool to see you go through some of the tips and tricks to make it more manageable.
To make this game easier when I play through it, I like to farm experience points.
I still love Zelda 2. Getting knocked into pits is the biggest danger in most of that game, the run to the Great Palace is brutal
@@Ahrpigi Yes it is!! The road to the great palace for me was difficult. I made sure I was at level 8 for life, magic, and sword level.
Games becomes manageable once you acquire downstab.
Only thing really hard about Zelda II is cryptic bullshit and maybe the final dungeon if you don't know where to go. Death mountain difficulty is overhyped I think.
It's funny, I beat this a few times as a kid, but I went back and played it recently and it was so much harder. Whoever says "Wow this game is too hard for kids to play" doesn't get kids - they're much better at everything.
ALSO:: I thought it was required by international law that you had to jump into every Mega Man boss door so the game slides you through the air in the screen transition. You're going to gamer jail, man.
In MMX, dashing into the door is also acceptable
@@Ahrpigi Excellent point, Mega Man X's door dash is not only acceptable, but in fact had a reliable food delivery service named after the technique.
@@CharlieSoze lol!
IT'S THE LAW!
What you say is true but a lot of retro games are harder when we visit them back as an adult is because most of the time we're not using the original hardware. Modern TV's delay is so much worse than CRT TV's. Retro games are all about precision and reflexive speeds.
The one I was waiting for ! Thx Ruy !
Now i'm going to beat all Megaman games !
Imagine complaining about using an exploit to beat a nearly 40 year old game
And there's so many whiners, too! As if a single one of these elitists wouldn't have used it every single time back in elementary school
When I beat this game I didn’t use any exploits other than the save states that the anniversary collection on the 3ds had just though that was a little too cheap
Thanks to the rom hacking community, there are patches that give this game some nice QoL features. There is one that removes Mega Man's skid, another that removes the score (and score items), and also one that refills your weapon energy after you die (so you don't have to ammo farm).
Well ammo not refilling on death is just how most Mega Man games work anyway, so I don't really see it as an issue that needs fixing. However, adding traction is a great addition, and the removal of points and point balls is a nice little change.
@@jruler93 No, I know ammo not refilling is a Mega Man tradition, but it could be useful to certain players. It might help newer players with stuff like the Boobeam Trap in Mega Man 2.
You didnt beat the game
@@mattb6522 it would make the game too easy. There would be no punishment for being reckless with the weapons
@@Red_Biker_Dude True. It would neuter the challenge. Though, it might useful to a more casual or inexperienced gamer who wants an easier time with the Mega Man games. I don't judge how people want to experience a game.
Really enjoying this series 👌 been watching about a week now but just subscribed. Keep up the great work 👍
The only difficulty I found in this game is in Gutsman's stage due to the falling mechanics.
That would stop me a as a kid.. never beat Gutsman back then. Since then, finally got gud.
Funny that Ryu talks about how easy Cutman is, I always die in that stage a d never gotten far in the original Mega Man because of it. I started with Mega Man 2 back in the 80s and found it pretty simple and then got MM3 when it came out and beat it Ina couple of days, but just never could do much in the original.
I think i played mega man 1 so many times in the mega man anniversary collection that its pretty easy for me.Cannot wait for the next installment ryu.
I think you can destroy the Gutsman blocks with Elecman's weapon, but I don't remember for sure. Also, I always called the Yellow Devil the Rock Monster. I didn't know why until I looked up that it was censored in America. Finally, I don't know the difficulty of it, but I wouldn't mind seeing a Kid Icarus playthrough.
You're right about blocks being able to be destroyed with the Thunder Beam. As for the Yellow Devil, I'm pretty sure it was called "Rock Monster" in the manual that came with it in the USA release.
Very nice! I can only beat this game with the pause trick. Honestly, it almost trivializes most of the game!
Small tip, the pause glitch works because invincibility frames aren't paused during the select pause. If a small amount of time is let to pass between pause and unpause, extra hits will occur much more consistently.
I beat this a year or two ago without save states, that last section drove me absolutely insane and those poorly program enemy platforms that hit you almost pushed me over the edge. When I finally killed the Yellow Devil I felt like a god matrix dodging that shit. I also wasn't using a guide or any previous knowledge, and I didn't wanna use the pause strategy. God I wish I knew you could extend the magnet platform creator to skip that enemy platform section.
Much respect 👊
For best results, wait about a second while paused before pausing again. The boss's invincibility timer runs while paused, you just have to wait for it to wear off.
Yeah, and different bosses have different amounts of I frames, so what works for one boss mightn't work for another.
@@jruler93 no, every boss has the same ammount of i-frames. Aside from wily machine, it has very short i-frames compared to other bosses
This series is great.
The pause glitch you showed on Iceman also works using the scissors against Elecman as well, makes Elecman a one-hit kill.
You do a really great job at making it feel like you're just talking to me, and I really appreciate the confidence you have in my skill. Especially at the platforming parts.
Presumably this game having a score system is a holdout from the arcade days when games generally didn't have endings, needed some way to keep track of how good you were
Anyway, good stuff, never knew the Magnet Beam was chargeable, that alone makes the game a lot less headache-inducing, I'll have to keep that in mind when I eventually go back and try to finally beat this
Been playing this game since I was 6, had no idea. 😂😂
This series needs a ton more views.
All of these RUclipsrs proving that Mega Man isn't super difficult forget that most of us we're 7 years old when playing it.
I need more of this series!!! Amazing video!
Damn, had no idea about the magnet beam or the pause glitch! This is the ONE Mega Man game I've never beaten. Might have to give it a go now, thanks for the video!
I absolutely love this series. You are bringing me back to my childhood and accomplishing games that I had exceptional difficulty with. Please note however I did not have the luxury of the internet to help,, just a subscription to Nintendo power.
Before Nintendo Power, we traded tips and tactics with friends and classmates
Great series! It would be awesome to see these fights without the cheese, but I totally understand the perspective.
The U Can Beat series shows them with and without the cheese.
That's helpful for folks coming in now because most (all?) re-releases of this one eliminate the pause trick so it's not accessible to all players.
I was super impressed with the Silver Surfer one, I would like to see him do Holy Diver
This series brought me to your page. Keep up the great work!!
The clone fight is TRIVIAL with the B("Power Bomb") weapon; you should never take damage. The timing to get your bombs to hit the clone is the ONLY challenge.
Greetings from Lossiemouth, Scotland. THANK YOU so much for this video. This game had me raging but your relaxed personality and laid back guidance helped me get the ball rolling and I am on my way to my first victory in beating this game. It’s been in my library for several years but I never got past those flipping platforms on the road to Gutsman. It took me about 40 tries but I made it to the other side and for the first time I felt some success. Thanks again!
5:42 I've been calling these "Pac-Men" ever since I was a kid, too. 😅
This is a classic. Loved Megaman 2 but I also had a Megaman Anniversary Collection that let me play all the games for the PS2.
Love the channel! This debunk series is great! Definitely dig it.
This has become one of my favourite series on RUclips! I had already beaten Mega Man 1 before watching this video, but I really enjoyed it nonetheless; actually, I had bought the game years before beating it: I had got stuck on the Yellow Devil and dropped the game, but then years later I learned about the pause buffer glitch and got through the rest of the game thanks to it. Right now I'm working on Contra without continues, thanks to your advice, whereas I have never tried TMNT and Ninja Gaiden (but now maybe I will 😁).
I'd love to see Castlevania games, Ghost'N'Goblins and other Contra and Mega Man games next, if you are comfortable with them 👍🏻
Your video game skills are on-point but nothing will ever compare to that amazing beard
Loving this series 👌🏻 keep up the great work 👍🏻
Loving this series so much! Great content man!
I thought this was one of the more easy games as a kid it was also one of the more interesting. There were so many confusing games with terrible controls this was a real stand out.
I played this game a few months before by accident finding that you could change weapons. The good old times when you were a kid and didn't read any manuals. (I assume the manual brings it up, but maybe it didn't).
I had a hard time with the wiley stages when I was younger but once I figured out the weaknesses I was pretty good at it.
@@linusgustafsson2629 Me too. I traded games with a friend and played for over a year before learning to switch weapons. With buster-only I could get to the Wily 1 part where you had to move the blocks and would try everything I could think of. With the pause-glitch trick the game is super easy; without it I would have trouble with the yellow devil.
All mega mans are hard, this one just happens to have longer levels, so yes in a way it’s hardest
I am here for this series. Great content Ryu
Waiting for battletoads.. but I don’t think it’s possible to debunk that one
First off, I want to say that I love this new series, Ryu. Secondly, I would like for you to continue the Mega Man/Rockman series for your difficult videos, please? Mega Man 2, then 3, etc. I'd love to see how you break down the difficulty between each game. Thank you. :)
I never think I’ll watch the entire video on these… and then, all of the sudden, 30 minutes has gone by. 😂 Feels so good to watch these games that I couldn’t beat as a kid get dispatched so quickly. 🙌🏼 Also, loved the term “yolo jumping.” 😆
beating elecman with buster only is a nightmare. But doable... you just need a bit of luck.
Loving the series so far!
Would love to see one of these for Mega Man II, as well. Heck, all of the Mega Man games.
These debunking videos are incredible. Keep em coming. Especially for games on the Classic mini consoles.
This video helped ALOT ty. I was always a fan of this version of mega man but being a n00b I always had a hard timing getting thru the 1st part of any of the levels
My greatest achievement was to beat Megaman 9 and 10 with both characters..I got 5 stages into 9 without damage and wanted to try that game without taking damage but it’s pretty tough..GG
You didnt debunk the difficulty, you just showed how good you are. :)
He really isn't *that* good
He may be using a glitch. I'm not judging him but it doesn't make sense with the title of the video
Okay bro, got to your channel through recommendations and absolutely love it! The commentary delivery and content is great. Subscribed!
Dude love this channel and these series more than your main one. Hope you will continue with retro stuff for long while.
Someone out there grabbed the “I might have to take a “D” here…” line and posted it to the subreddit right?
When MM9 came out I went back and played through each one, one by one. The first 3 were my favorites, do you think you'll do the others?
Thank you my lovely Beardo. Following your careful tutelage, I was able to beat Megaman just now! It was still hard, but I felt like a hero afterwards. These hard-ass Nintendo games would have been a million times easier back in the day if you could just pull up a walkthrough video any time you wanted!
Incredible. I finished MM1 when I was in junior high, probably took me 2-3hrs. I remember continuing at Yellow Devil for many many times. You make it look easy, and I want to do it again 30+ years later
Would love to see you beat Zelda 2 for NES. Underrated game and gets a bad rap for being way too hard. The last couple bosses are pretty difficult for sure but I’ve beaten it a few times.
Are you talking about Thunder Bird and Dark Link in the Great Palace?
@@stacychamness9077 Yeah 100%. I’ve rage quit so many times while fighting those bosses haha
@@ordinaryalan that game took me a couple of years to beat I remember 😄 parents bought it for me when i was 8 and had to get the "nintendo power" strategy guide at some point for some of the later palaces and died countless times before finally completing it. Awesome game though 🙂
Beat the game WITHOUT the pause glitch
I bought the collection of this on steam. I might have used the save state for some later sequels 😅
I’m sick and doing universities for my job. I’m so glad you dropped this rn
"Debunking the difficulty" *uses a glitch to beat the game*
Truth
Yeah. Might as well use a game genie.
"It's not that hard" then proceeds to following a guide and practices beforehand. Then uses glitches to beat two bosses.
You did your Eskimo brother dirty…in more ways than one.
Great video. Regarding the mirror Mega Man-fight, I just used the regular weapon. It knocks him back and freezes him for a second, so you just keep firing at him. It was incredible easy once I understood it.
You should call this “so difficult I need to cheat”
Great video, it would be more entertaining to watch you beat the bosses without the pause glitch. Having said that, I get the whole point if the video is to show an easier way to beat a hard game. Keep up the good work 👏
Loved this episode it was enjoying to watch. I could never beat this game but since I watched this maybe I'll try again.
This really helped me out. I’d love to see the rest of the series
Awesome series by the way. Great idea along with great commentary and execution. Very informative videos :)
Thanks a lot, this guide inspired me to start Mega Man 1 again, and I just defeated the Yellow Devil. No pause exploit, no quick saves. I went to the beginning of the stage after every game over, and it was annoying. However, it was super fun to learn the pattern and super rewarding to finally take that yellow thing down. Standby for updates, I hope the rest of the game won't take long.
Upd: I finished it. Boy was it close, I was down to my last life. Both Wily machines weren't difficult at all, but I found it hard to keep my cool and have enough health by the time I got to the finale. Anyway, I'm real proud of myself for beating an NES game with no saves, and a pretty hard one at that. Your guides are great, you make it look really easy.
So basically, it is easy if you just use pause buffering (not playing as developers intended). This is the only Mega Man game I really tried to beat as a kid, but was not able to (or only once, not sure). I did not know about pause buffering back then, and usually gave up on that cyclops robot (yellow devil as you called him).
Megaman 3 was always my favorite.
Cheers Ryu, this is a great series and this game fits in perfectly.
These are great. Please do more.
I like how in MegaMan 2, you can take out Metal Man, using the Metal Blade in 1 hit.
In Normal mode. In Hard mode(Which is a default mode in JPN version), Metal Man dies to Metal Blade in 2 hits.
I've been playing this since I was a kid and never beat it till I was an adult. Last time I beat it I was quite drunk on the vodka so I think I've got it now.
What's up Ryu... watching you play some of my favorite games brings me a great amount of nostalgia and I'm looking forward to more. Keep up with the awesome content. I do however have a game request that I'd like to watch you play, it's one that came late in the NES's life cycle and one that I never beat as a kid even though I've beat recently and it's called " Zen, Intergalactic space ninja". I really would like to see if you would struggle as much as I did. Thanks and take care
The pause buffer works because bosses s run out while the game is paused. Unpausing too fast doesn't work that well.
Without knowing the code, I bet they did blinking effect and invincibility frames with the same counter - blink status is just one bit of the counter. So to keep the blinking going during pause, they messed up the s.
RAM was expensive back then... and fixing this may have required quite some refactoring. Hm... maybe pause was a late added feature?
@@divVerent may just have been an oversight - they might have just set the button to set all movement to 0, stop collision detection and nothing else.
Considering the history of mm1 & 2 the team might not have had the time to test everything.
@@gManGabe Yeah, also that pause is on select is odd and speaks even more that pause was a late addition. Like, maybe:
Devs at first: we have weapons screen, that already pauses the game, we don't need another pause. Let's put that screen on start because it does pause.
Later: oh, people do want a pause button that doesn't enter the menu. Let's put that on... damn, start is taken... select.
Another great debunking video, loved these games back on the NES glad to see one make it's debut in this series
17:41 My favorite way to beat this version of the Sniper Joe is to freeze him with the ice slasher when he lets his guard down. He'll stay frozen like that for a bit, leaving him wide open so you can pummel him with other weapons.
I haven't played this game for 30 years and this brings it back like it was yesterday. I didn't even own it as a kid, just borrowed it from a friend for a few days.
Love this new series Mr Kahr. I've never played any Megaman games, as they scared me, but I might give this one a go now!
I love Your Debunking the Difficulty series, I'm a subscriber to Your other channel and just discovered this one, You've earned my subscription all over again. 🙂👍
I hope all 6 NES mega man games get into this series.
This series is fantastic. V glad I found it. I'd love to see the other Ninja Gaiden games. Battletoads would be a good one, too.
RUclips recommendations gets it right again. Cool channel. Love the presentation and your comments. The difficulty of hitting the Subscribe button was debunked very quickly.
Hahaha. I love it
I remember being unbelievably frustrated at that splitting cyclops monster near the end. It's amazing how much patience we had when a handful of NES cartridges was your entire video game library back then.
The Mega Man series were typically games that were rented. They were very much games that one could win in three days. First day figuring out how to beat each of the eight bosses. Second day doing so in the most efficient way to prepare for the final stages. Third day beating Dr. Wily. Worst case scenario, you wrote down your password, and rented the game again to beat it the next weekend.
People seem to forget that most games were rented not owned. The NES didn't have many games designed to take a month or more to win. That concept didn't become typical until the 64 bit era, which is why they introduced memory cards.
RoahmMythril did all of the classic NES Megman games Buster only no-hit which are pretty fun to watch.