Why Classic Mega Man Had a Rocky Start (Mega Man 1, 2, 3)

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
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    How do classic Mega Man games fare with a newcomer to the series? Well, the title gives it away.
    The Wikipedia link I mentioned lmao: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Ma...
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    0:51 Intro & Series History
    2:24 Mega Man
    12:23 Mega Man 2
    20:56 Mega Man 3
    29:48 Conclusion
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  • @GottaBeFrank
    @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +20

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    • @sammylane21
      @sammylane21 2 года назад +2

      Didn't mention a SUPER MARIO BROS 2 character made a cameo in MEGA MAN 1.....FRY GUY!

    • @lelandholmquist2467
      @lelandholmquist2467 Год назад

      I only have two things to say 1 I like the boss rush because it’s shows just how far you’ve come from the start. And 2 you can cheese the final boss in MM3 with search snake if you launch it into the hole one top of gammas head other than that I agree with you on everything else.

    • @rezterralico4369
      @rezterralico4369 4 месяца назад

      Beat mega man 1 on the wii cirtual console legit no pause trick needed here.

  • @RooneyHimself
    @RooneyHimself 8 месяцев назад +27

    In case nobody else mentioned this here, Megaman 3 was the one where you couldn't beat the bosses in one circle.
    You had to go in two circles, one with Magnet, Hard, Top, Shadow and Spark, and the other with Snake, Gemini and Needle.

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 5 месяцев назад +1

      I don’t get it. What do you mean by circle?

    • @RooneyHimself
      @RooneyHimself 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@MaxOakland I mean taking the robot masters on, and defeating them via weaknesses.
      Megaman 3 in the only one where you can't do that in one "circle".

    • @DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI
      @DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI 4 месяца назад

      ​@@RooneyHimselfyou can go for topman first then shadow man since he weak too top then after shadow you go after Spark man there is a actual order but it just depends on who you go after first

  • @toopienator
    @toopienator 2 года назад +115

    Half the budget for Mega Man 2 was the intro. The other half was making the game actually good.

    • @templariox32
      @templariox32 Год назад +7

      Then why the game is shit?

    • @toopienator
      @toopienator Год назад +8

      @@templariox32 they only had enough budget to try to make it good. Not enough to finish doing so.

    • @VideoGameAnimationStudy
      @VideoGameAnimationStudy 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@templariox32 It was pretty much made in the dev's spare time.

    • @miamimagicians
      @miamimagicians 6 месяцев назад +2

      Metal blade mm2 a contra game

    • @bungusamungus1273
      @bungusamungus1273 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@templariox32 Sorry to hear you're so wrong.
      Get well soon. :)

  • @RetroMaticGamer
    @RetroMaticGamer 5 месяцев назад +33

    18:50 Dude, the Boss Rush is my FAVORITE part of every Mega Man game! It's like giving the Robot Masters one last chance to take a bow before the curtain call that is Dr. Wily!

  • @sammylane21
    @sammylane21 2 года назад +28

    Bubble Man's stage theme is such a nostalgia bomb to me.

  • @PJC1981
    @PJC1981 10 месяцев назад +18

    Personally, I've always liked the boss rushes in Mega Man games

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 месяцев назад +6

      I know people enjoy them, but I just can get into them. Like, we have the weakness, so it comes off as a waste.

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 10 месяцев назад +19

    11:49 That's an intentional music motif. Mega Man's name is Rock. He also has an older brother named Blues, but we won't meet him until Mega Man 3

    • @TangoWithTheCobra
      @TangoWithTheCobra 4 месяца назад +1

      I’m sure Rush is also named after the band.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 4 месяца назад

      @@TangoWithTheCobra It's actually not. His name is a reference to a dog called Lassie. Sounds weird but the R and L sounds are combined in Japan.

  • @quentc
    @quentc 2 года назад +59

    Love seeing new blood in the classic fandom! 3 is my least favorite despite loving Proto Man and the slide, but one helpful thing for any revisits is knowing that Search Snake also can defeat the final boss ;)
    I used to love the boss rushes so it feels weird seeing the dislike for them; I always felt like it was either a victory lap or an opportunity to test your mettle with bosses u may not have given a fair shot initially. The classic series definitely does have an issue with padding though, and I see how mandatory boss rushes don't help with that

    • @TheJadeFist
      @TheJadeFist 2 года назад +5

      I always do the final boss the cheap way with Rush Shot into Top Spin swap.

    • @DrDeez-do9zo
      @DrDeez-do9zo 11 месяцев назад +7

      Honestly I don't mind the boss rush as much as others may, even if it could be done better (like how mega Man X1 does it) but I tended to use the boss rush to learn robot master weaknesses.

    • @quentc
      @quentc 11 месяцев назад +5

      MM1 and X1 bosses being strewn thru levels is ok but honestly I'd like to see the concept evolve more. If fighting 8 bosses you've already beaten in succession is a test of mastery, and 8 vs 1 would be overkill, what if bosses tag-teamed in rematches? There are plenty of ways to do it, I'm fond of the Gravity Circuit interpretation as well

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 2 года назад +33

    20:15 I just booted up the Legacy Collection on steam, and no if you change the version of the game to the US version, it gives you the difficulty option in Megaman 2. You can pick which version you want to play as either Megaman or Rockman. So you do have an option in the legacy collection version, you just have to pick the version of the rom that had it.

  • @switchnx
    @switchnx 2 года назад +14

    Ayy! Rocky start! Because he’s Rockman!

  • @darkmewmewsans5481
    @darkmewmewsans5481 Год назад +14

    I’ve been playing Mega Man since I was a toddler, and it’s always cool to see someone new to the series. Recently I’ve seen a lot of people hate on the boss rushes, but I always liked them, the bosses were always my favorite part of the games. My personal favorite Mega Man game is actually Mega Man 10. Overall, very good video.

  • @jayvee5686
    @jayvee5686 2 года назад +11

    Instead of sending Dr Wily to prison, they let him build a giant robot

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +6

      Yeah. It's wild!

    • @RetroMaticGamer
      @RetroMaticGamer 5 месяцев назад +2

      Ever heard of prison labor? Maybe Wily was working on Gamma as part of his sentence, or possibly as a form of parole.

    • @EatWave
      @EatWave 4 месяца назад +1

      It is like Project Paperclip but with robots.

  • @metaknightjudgesyoursins4710
    @metaknightjudgesyoursins4710 2 года назад +13

    Oddly enough, I actually think Mega Man 3 is my favorite in the trilogy… yes, even better than 2. I know the game was unfinished and a mess, but even some unfinished games have their charm to it. MM3’s length wasn’t that long, and hell, I would say that the length is understandable with it being the last in the trilogy AND being a game changer in the Mega Man series (in terms of story and gameplay). I will agree that Mega Man 2 had more of a legacy, but I kinda got tired after the first two Wily Castle Stages (obviously because of the Crash Bomb boss, and because of the boss rush), but also because of how… odd the level design can be.. and by that I mean it felt like it was throwing out random stuff without any rhyme or reason (the Sniper Joe part in Wily Castle 3 is the big example of that).
    either way, great video on these games!

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 10 месяцев назад +4

    29:19 That fist of spikes is actually a one-hit kill If he hits you with his knuckles while you're standing on the ground. The first time that happened to me, it caught me off guard, because the music didn't stop, and I didn't hear Mega Man explode

  • @space470-1
    @space470-1 Год назад +3

    The top spin only rapidly drains energy on certain frames of mega man's spinning animation

  • @PSNPerfectNinja
    @PSNPerfectNinja 6 месяцев назад +6

    MM3 was my first MM. I have beaten it so many times, but never knew you could use Top to hit the final boss. I always dropped Snakes on him from above. I suspect Snakes would be a lot easier

    • @MusicianKevinNatzke
      @MusicianKevinNatzke 4 месяца назад

      Same here my friend!

    • @hdofu
      @hdofu 2 месяца назад

      2 was my intro to the series (rental kid) and as much as I enjoyed it, I really did like 3 more for better controls (it was the first with consistent feeling button input to game response) and the music was bangers, I even prefer to 2 (which I also very much like so don't hate me).

    • @PSNPerfectNinja
      @PSNPerfectNinja 2 месяца назад

      @@hdofu it's traditional to argue over which MM has the best music. Disagreement isn't hate

  • @karinyupinyan5754
    @karinyupinyan5754 2 года назад +6

    I really like the new review style videos, I feel like you gave thus gave these games a lot deeper looks than most people that had reviewed them before (such as SomeCallMeJohnny) in terms of level design, graphics and more! (You did redo the Mega Man box art joke, but it's kind of a thing you have to when you take a look at these games)

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +1

      I considered scrapping the box art bit, but I kept it going with Mega Man 2, so I had to keep it in.

  • @LyingTuna
    @LyingTuna 2 года назад +6

    I remain the only Mega Man fan on earth who actually likes the MM1 Yellow Devil fight :(

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +2

      Probably

    • @esmooth919
      @esmooth919 2 года назад

      I hate that fight, but I learned how to beat it without using the pause trick. Just make sure you're not suffering from input lag if you go that route.

    • @templariox32
      @templariox32 Год назад

      Its the only game who got the devil right besides megaman 9 so...

  • @endermanslayer5106
    @endermanslayer5106 2 года назад +5

    The best part of Megaman 1 is the epic cheese strat to get rig of their invincibility frames during the pause menu so effectively pause after shooting as the attack intercepts and watch as they effectively die cause boss weapons don’t despawn after contact meaning spam pause to kill and it gets tricky only with Fire man and Wily cause Fire man if two fast won’t do anything and two slow it will move away from him wily is just cause how many sprites there are after his first phase is killed its too broken and still lives in Megaman 2 (I also may regret all knowing this cause I failed it too many times)

  • @razorchance6976
    @razorchance6976 2 года назад +23

    Nice to see you're tackling the classic mega man games 🙂 the first 3 games are honestly something I would go back to once in a blue moon *to be fair I do enjoy 4-6 quite a lot 🙂 I feel like there are significant improvements and additions to them that honestly makes me go back to those in a country heartbeat* with that being said, mega man 1 was a good foundation for the series to start with *and yeah, I agree with you about gutsman stage 😣* even if it didn't age well, 2 is enjoyable for sure, I like it for sure, as for 3, I am mixed on it, well done to you, and by any chance have you ever heard the complete works ost's? They're wonderful in my ears ❤

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +3

      I'm kinda looking forward to Mega Man 4. I've heard good things about it.

    • @razorchance6976
      @razorchance6976 2 года назад +1

      @@GottaBeFrank thank you so much for your response 🙂 and i think you'll enjoy those, though if I kindly speak out, I think you'll really get a kick out of mega man 7, in fact I actually typed about it as part of a list I made *top 5 games that saved me from 2020* there's a lot to say about 7, but of course the original 6 on nes* I hope all is going well *and if you think differently on 4-6 😂 I'll eat shrimp Pringles lol*

  • @TangoWithTheCobra
    @TangoWithTheCobra 4 месяца назад +3

    21:24 I love MM2, but MM3 is superior. The music in 3 is beyond phenomenal and jazzy as hell, especially the epic opening theme, Shadow Man’s stage theme, and the last boss theme. The slide is awesome. Rush is awesome. Amazing game.

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 2 года назад +5

    I'm going to say this right now: in Mega Man 3, Rush Marine is useless, because Rush Jet can do everything that Rush Marine can do, but better. On top of that, when you jump off Rush Jet, he stops consuming energy!

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +2

      I only used Rush Marine in the water sections, so I can avoid using Rush Jet for as long as possible. Rush Jet is busted in the best way possible.

    • @esmooth919
      @esmooth919 2 года назад +1

      @@GottaBeFrank on some ill shit! And i think the devs realized that, because he ain't been the same since! 😭 (Not counting the shoot-em-up sections in episode 8)

  • @BrandontheAwesome
    @BrandontheAwesome Год назад +2

    I'm going back and rewatching these videos as I wait to receive my copy of the Legacy Collection because it is now the hardest game to find where I live. Can't wait!

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  Год назад +1

      Is the legacy collection really hard to find these days? That's so bizarre. Then again, it is an old enough release.

    • @BrandontheAwesome
      @BrandontheAwesome Год назад +1

      ​@@GottaBeFrankI went to THREE seperate GameStops and none of them had it. It was either the Battle Network or Mega Man X Legacy Collections, and I wasn't sure if I wanted to start with those because I'm new to the series.

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 10 месяцев назад

    7:06 i never had this problem! But that's probably because I knew to turn back around right after I picked it up

  • @MortimurGrimm
    @MortimurGrimm 10 месяцев назад +3

    Such a refreshing take on my favorite series. I’m extremely biased, but enjoyed hearing a fresh opinion from a newcomer. 2 was my first and my favorite. I completely agree with your assessment on 3, which I’m often criticized for. I’m looking forward to seeing the next one. Thanks!

  • @BrettLane256
    @BrettLane256 10 месяцев назад +1

    I found the Leaf Shield particularly useful for the ladder and moving platform segments in the stages where there's a lot of homing enemies, such as Crash Man. But cool to see newer videos covering these classics! And it is also fun to run into another fellow soul who had a similar experience with and observations about Mega Man 3 to me, I always feel outspoken on those points.
    I'm just finding your content for the first time, but if you haven't already, you should really check out Rockman World 4 and World 5 at some point, they are peak Classic series titles that all Mega Man enjoyers need to play. I'd personally put World 4 right next to Mega Man 2 in terms of design, but it feels so much more polished it really sings to me. And seeing that you are a Mega Man X enjoyer, I think you'd appreciate World 4 for the elements it brought to the table that were integrated into X1 and Mega Man 7.

  • @SQGReviewShow
    @SQGReviewShow Год назад +10

    Just finished rewatching it, really surprised you didn't like 3, but your reasoning is very understandable. It's great you were able to get into the series despite the flaws of the first three games.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  Год назад +2

      Yeah. 3 had some good ideas, but I just couldn't get behind the game after the 8 robot masters.

  • @Garrulous64
    @Garrulous64 2 года назад +3

    Getting called out in the best possible way

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 2 года назад +3

    8:16 I'll be honest, I never had a problem with the Yoku Blocks because I know how to watch their patterns. They only start getting _bad_ by Mega Man 4, and by then, they're restricted to endgame, and made ridiculous, compared to the first 3 games.
    In fact, the only time I got tripped up was near the end of Heat Man's stage.

    • @user-fy1nq3nf1q
      @user-fy1nq3nf1q 2 года назад

      Yeah, if you dont cheese them with the wire adaptor or coil

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +2

      I never bothered with them in Heat Man's stage. Probably because I saw a MM2 race before actually playing the game. It wasn't for any tricks or anything. I just never really saw the game up to that point. As for the other areas with Yoku Blocks. I couldn't warm up to them, even if I was cremated with them.

    • @esmooth919
      @esmooth919 2 года назад +4

      @@GottaBeFrank i understand your complaints about Ice Man's stage, but i can tolerate everything until i get to those damned rng eyeball platforms, at which point i whip out the magnet beam and say "fuck that noise."

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +1

      Same!

  • @RetroMaticGamer
    @RetroMaticGamer 5 месяцев назад +2

    29:21 Don't use Top Spin here! Drop Search Snakes into the top of Gamma's head! It's actually a better weakness and a much safer strategy!

    • @fatterplatter3029
      @fatterplatter3029 Месяц назад

      If you use it correctly, you can kill Gamma in one usage of Top Spin.

  • @alexandregb566
    @alexandregb566 7 месяцев назад +1

    Those disappearance blocks look like those would-be opportunities that show up in my life but suddenly disappear from away from me.

  • @beakpot
    @beakpot Год назад

    This is a great overview and I especially think there is value in reviewing the games in a isolated context, becaue it does offer different results that the historical one, which has been readily explored. And taken outside of historical contexts, other than the music and maybe, if you are inclined to think about it this way, the "purity" of the robot master themeing, there is nothing really done it 1-3 that is not matched or even exceeded by 4-6. Personal favs always come down to preference of course and their are no wrong answers there, it is nice to see the games explored like this.

  • @Nintega345
    @Nintega345 2 года назад +7

    MM1-3 are VERY rough games but I can still see how they made the impact that they did way back when, especially with 2, but less so with 3. MegaMan 4 and 6 are my favorites of the NES games and I do look forward to hearing your thoughts on them.
    Wishing you a lot, and I mean a LOT of luck in covering as many of these games as you can in a row btw

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад

      I've heard good things about 4-6, so I'm looking forward to playing them.

    • @templariox32
      @templariox32 Год назад

      Funny since 3 is better than 1 and 2

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 2 года назад +6

    3:41 80% of gamelocalizations back then in a nutshell. They just looked at the japanese manual and thought:"Nah, we don't need to translate this." or translated it poorly. Heck, appearently the megaman series never cut itself loose from that nonsense. Which is why it later more and more becomes a jumbled mess of unreadable dialogue.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +1

      I would love to find more manuals like these. It's pretty entertaining to read, when you know the actual story.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 4 месяца назад

      Yeah it sucks that they would not translate certain stuff. Castlevania for example has an awesome story with evil Witchcraft and Christ’s power weakening every 100 years. At least Mega Man’s translations after the first game are accurate.

  • @TheWaterMiners
    @TheWaterMiners Год назад +2

    Wdym by 8 "more" robots? The MM2 robot masters were the first robots that Dr. Wily built

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  Год назад

      8 more robot master to fight, after the first 8 in MM3. I never said 8 new robots, just 8 more.

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 2 года назад +2

    Top Spin was actually good outside of Shadow Man, the enemies it can hurt it 1 shots, or 2 /3 shot the few other bosses hurtable by it. Such as those gorillas that jump down at you, become non threats if you have the top spin.

    • @NONE.Dragon
      @NONE.Dragon 2 года назад

      Top Spin is pretty awful, wydm. You can't use it while jumping towards enemies because you get pushed back, so is worthless vs the parachute enemies in shadow man. Not to mention that if you are in invincibility state, the weapon gets drained after ONE use, and you have to make contact with enemies to use it.

  • @seancdaug
    @seancdaug Год назад +3

    Gamma's second form in Mega Man 3 is weak to both Top Spin and Search Snake, and it's much, *much* easier to go after him with the latter.

  • @Ridicx
    @Ridicx 5 месяцев назад

    Obviously way late here but great to see someone new tackle these games. I think it also shows the massive difference in how games teach players in modern times. Multiple complaints were due to not stopping to watch and learn patterns. I’m sure someone recommended Egoraptor’s breakdown of mega man but it illustrates the genius behind the design of these games up through Megaman X. Keep up the good work, this was very enjoyable.

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 2 года назад +1

    Those moving platforms in Iceman/ Willy later on, aren't that bad... if they feel like being solid. Some times you just fall right through them, or are standing on them and fall. Just use the magnet beam, really reduces the chance of random-not-your-fault-deaths.

  • @Garrulous64
    @Garrulous64 2 года назад +2

    I still can't believe they let Elec Man beat you in 2 hits. That is ridiculous lmao

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад

      To be fair, his weakness can get him twice with one shot, if he moves the right way.

    • @LyingTuna
      @LyingTuna 2 года назад

      Killing him buster only with a stunlock is fun as heck tho

  • @soundspark
    @soundspark 4 месяца назад

    For slowdown, I noticed slowdowns a lot in the Hard Man stage when the beehive drops and spawns a swarm of bees. The Legacy Collection has an overclock mode to fix slowdowns.

  • @ThunderFist1978
    @ThunderFist1978 5 месяцев назад

    For Wily’s first machine in Mega Man 3, on the second phase, when he lowers himself, I just use Rush Jet. He doesn’t stand a chance. As for Gamma, the search snakes also work on the Wily head. I never knew the top spin worked until I read Jeff Rovin’s “How To Win At Nintendo Games Vol. 4”. Jeff’s books are good reads, as much for their humor as for their information.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  5 месяцев назад

      It would be awesome to get a hold of those old Nintendo guide books. When I was really getting into gaming, it was all cheat code books from Dreamcast and PS2 games.

  • @BlueFlame_l.o.g
    @BlueFlame_l.o.g 2 года назад

    Excellent video! I’m glad you brought this back cause Mega Man was Super dope!

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад +1

      Yeah! Gotta finish what I started. I have another 12-ish games to go through.
      send help

    • @BlueFlame_l.o.g
      @BlueFlame_l.o.g 2 года назад

      @@GottaBeFrank Excellent definitely looking forward to it..we definitely need Megaman to be relevant again

  • @PamIsley314
    @PamIsley314 4 месяца назад +1

    YOU USED THE PAUSE TRICK FOR THE YELLOW DEVIL?!? Jk I don't blame you. Beating that thing (twice in one and three) was damn near torture. Although when I finally did beat it I was so elated, I can assuredly say it was the most intense natural high I've ever had. It taught me a lot about overcoming adversity,, but at the same time I now realize I'd never want to play a soulsborne game (despite loving them "From" afar ;)) The highs are stratospheric, but the blood, sweat, and tears required to reach that are too intense for me now. Yellow Devil part 1 & 2 were my all time video game challenges; I'm glad I experienced it, but don't want to do it again 🤣

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  4 месяца назад

      At some point, I will need to defeat the Yellow Devil without the pause trick. I'm not looking forward to it.

  • @alexandregb566
    @alexandregb566 Год назад

    22:11 more anyone notice it? Dr light's pc has a IBM's brand. I've never realize it before. The blue part of his pc where there are lot of lights shining.

  • @jimbillyjenkims
    @jimbillyjenkims Год назад

    I just want to say that the ladder pause thing is a feature. It's megaman changing his form. See the little teleport animation when you unpause?

  • @NicholasDunnAutistic
    @NicholasDunnAutistic 5 месяцев назад

    A good use of the leaf shield is to stand in an area where the bird drops the eggs. Easy way to rack up extra lives.

  • @DiamondWolfX
    @DiamondWolfX 2 года назад

    A thing I noticed is that the Ice Man platforms' shots shoot in the wrong direction. The right cannon shoots left and vice versa.
    IIRC both Yellow Devils have a fixed pattern when sending their blobs across screen one at a time.
    MM3's hologram Mega Man thing has a tell so you don't have to guess - the real one teleports in, while the fake ones just appear.

    • @TheJadeFist
      @TheJadeFist 2 года назад

      I know the middle is always the real one at first, but I never noticed a tell after that initial. I'll have to keep an eye for it next time I replay it.

  • @yourbrokenoven
    @yourbrokenoven 4 месяца назад

    Never knew top spin worked on the final wiley phase. I always used Snek.

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 10 месяцев назад

    8:24 now let me tell you why I despise *_this_* section. Not only can those floating platforms shoot at you, they move in completely random patterns, and sometimes, they glitch out, causing you to get hit by, and fall through them, falling to your death! When you get to this section, without the magnet beam. It is essential to your survival here.

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 2 года назад

    In Megaman 3 there was a trick with the Top Spin. If you were on rush you can fire a shot and pause and change to Top Spin, the bullet still on screen will now act like a Top Spin, makes the 3 Clones and Gamma fights much easier. You can technically do this with other weapons switching out of rush, but there really isn't a good use for it.

    • @donskiver
      @donskiver 7 месяцев назад

      I never heard of that trick. The only ones I knew of were the super jump (and the invincibility that you can get with it) and early rush jet. I'll have to try that top spin trick.

  • @KamisamanoOtaku
    @KamisamanoOtaku 10 месяцев назад +1

    Newbie to the channel, here because of Mega Man. XP Ended up watching some videos out of order, so I was interested to hear you take on the first three games. Now for my own unsolicited opinions:
    01) As long as you can generally enjoy "retro games", I think all three of these are good. *Not great,* but _good._
    02) No one should worry about playing on original hardware; the Legacy Collection releases of these three are probably better than those.
    03) For that matter, embrace the luxuries of modern re-releases, but remember to use them to _learn,_ *not* to _cheese._
    04) The Pause Glitch (Original MM), Super Jump (MM3), Screen Freeze (MM3), and Zombie Mega Man (MM3), along with Passwords in MM2 and MM3, helped kids like me "get good", because eventually, we wanted to try and beat the games _without_ them. ;)
    05) My personal favorite is Classic series game is Mega Man 3 *but* that's due to nostalgia on my part. It won't apply to the vast majority of people.
    06) Out of these three, though, I still believe Mega Man 3 to be better, for reasons I'll explain.
    07) *Mega Man **_needs_** his slide!* I can live without the Charge Shot, but Mega Man was meant to slide.
    08) Weapon balance is poor in all three games...
    09) ...while being broken in your favor is better than the opposite, it should still be seen as a flaw (Metal Blade, Rush Jet).
    10) Some boss weapons are junk *but* it is good to learn the game enough to know which those are, versus which are just hard to learn.
    11) Example of the above: The Spark Shot is the _worst_ weapon in MM3; a worse version of the Ice Slasher, without the excuses of the Top Spin (first melee attack) or Gemini Laser (too taxing on the console).
    12) Rematches with the Robot Masters is a _feature,_ not a flaw; this is so you can appreciate fighting them with your *full* arsenal and presumably polished Skills.
    13) None of them do the rematches right. The original Mega Man does it worst; if you think the teleport room is padding, so is slapping extra boss rooms in the middle of the Stage. XP
    14) Done right, you get the Teleporter Room approach, but with both a large Health and Energy refill between tries. Also, the RMs staying beaten unless you have to Continue.
    15) Doc Robot/Doc Robot Stages; good idea, bad execution. Definitely slow the game down... but better than the Alien Hologram of Wily.
    16) Snake Man's Stage is good; green is best color... but kidding aside, it is still a good Stage. One of the easier ones, IMO.
    17) Speaking of difficulty, Mega Man 3 is only the "hardest" due to length. With in-game cheats (see Reason #04), it is the easiest!
    18) Okay, hardest due to length *and* Doc Robot's hit box being larger than most (all?) of the Robot Masters he's mimicking. X-large Quick Man, and _without_ the Time Stopper. @_@
    For as long as this list is, it really only scratches the surface. To properly explain, one needs to have the time to sit on the couch as friends, playing through these games. MM3 especially. Did you know that every boss is _slightly_ Weak to its own Weapon? Seven shots with a Robot Master's own Weapon kills them in MM3... something you could only experience through the Teleporter Room near the end. Final disclaimer; I know these are my opinions, and especially under an old video, no one cares. I just am that kind of person who spends this much time posting under a RUclips video, I guess. XP

  • @randompog8493
    @randompog8493 Год назад +2

    What pushed me away from this series is how some of the enemies are placed such that your shots will go over them, and yes I suck but sometimes the flying enemies were difficult to deal with
    And dodging things feels impossible at times, trying to do a no damage run would be insane
    And the robot masters were insane too yeah
    But this is a neat idea even so

  • @marcelo20xxxx
    @marcelo20xxxx 4 месяца назад

    Megaman 3 was my favorite of all the series, also for the Yellow Cyclops Boss and the First Gamma phase use the Shadow Blade not the Hard Knuckle and for the second Gamma phase just use Rush Jet to reach the platform closest to the head and jump while spamming the Top Spin attack, you will receive one hit but you will kill the Final Boss in a single spam attack...

  • @PinClockFuntime
    @PinClockFuntime 6 месяцев назад +1

    Fire Man only spams attacks if you do, he's programmed to shoot when you shoot.

  • @ruthkatz1998
    @ruthkatz1998 7 месяцев назад +1

    It took me so long to beat magnet man that I became really good at the disappearing blocks

    • @DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI
      @DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI 4 месяца назад

      Yeah his stage is easily the second most annoying stage after snake man for me.. those disappearing blocks with the fans pushing you backwards over a bottomless pit is a damn nightmare

    • @ruthkatz1998
      @ruthkatz1998 4 месяца назад

      I thought magnet man was harder@@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI

  • @marcelo20xxxx
    @marcelo20xxxx 4 месяца назад

    Megaman 3 has not a standard one weakness cycle like later games, where you start from one robot master and use his weapon for the next robot master weak to it. After playing this game for years I found comfortable doing the following route: Magnet, Hard, Needle Man (hard to beat it with only the buster but you should have two E-Tanks by now) and then cheese my way out until the end by using Rush Jet after beating Needle Man...

  • @Scott89878
    @Scott89878 6 месяцев назад +1

    I always love watching people who didn't grow up with these games, be critical of them. You just didn't play these games within the context of the times. I always feel tempted to say "Git Gud" because there is a learning curve to these games, that the older gamers have done already.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 5 месяцев назад

      I mean Mega Man games and Castlevania aren’t that hard, it’s just that people have different opinions on what is fun.

  • @IuriFiedoruk
    @IuriFiedoruk 9 месяцев назад

    You can use Snale Search against Ganma second form. It makes the final boss way easier.

  • @hdofu
    @hdofu 2 месяца назад

    You don't mention the controller 2 tricks for Mega Man 3, like the pause trick which freezes you in place, but lets you shoot, the super jump and jumping in holes and using it to achieve "undead mode" (you lose all your energy, you can't fire (though you can using rush jump or another rush form) and the musics gone) which will stay in effect until you pick up life energy.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 месяца назад

      This was more on the main content of the game, rather than some neat tricks.

  • @evilmejosh
    @evilmejosh 9 месяцев назад

    I had watched another RUclipsr that said something about they said megaman 3 was too short so the doc robot stages were added in. Also I never used the top spin on gamma, I always use the search snake

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah. That would be the only justification for bringing in something like the Doc Robot stages. I'm glad they did 2 fortresses with 4-6.

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 2 года назад

    19:15 I *_hated_* this boss when I was a kid, for every reason you described! But I've come to discover that this is a kind of puzzle boss. I actually found a RUclips video years ago that gave me the solution on how to beat this thing without having to commit suicide and farm for weapon energy.

  • @JSRphones
    @JSRphones 6 месяцев назад +1

    Fun fact: the PAL version of Mega Man 3 has a horrible glitch in Wily 5 where the floor constantly jerks up and down

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  6 месяцев назад

      That sounds ridiculous. I have to find this somewhere lol

    • @JSRphones
      @JSRphones 6 месяцев назад

      @@GottaBeFrank In case you haven't found a playthrough of the PAL version, I found one for you, and this link should take you straight to the Wily 5 boss: ruclips.net/video/grOHHQRzgmg/видео.htmlfeature=shared&t=4910

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  6 месяцев назад

      Okay, that is an issue with not properly fixing the game for the 50Hz PAL format. It actually works normally if the same cartridge is put in a region free NTSC NES (top loader or modded, doesn't matter), but the audio will be weird.

  • @yazarc
    @yazarc 6 месяцев назад

    I prefer the first out of the first 3. When I was a kid in the days of trading Nintendo cartridges in the schoolyard, being able to score the original MegaMan was a huge triumph. I still treasure my original copy I eventually was able to buy.

  • @naufalbaihaqi727
    @naufalbaihaqi727 2 года назад +1

    Wait wasnt the thumbnail was the japanese megaman 1 posing in the title and megaman going :()

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад

      It was, but it wasn't a very appealing thumbnail. The logo was a little tough to see and I like the roman numerals to show which games I'm talking about in the video. Might switch out the background to make it pop out.

  • @Roge9
    @Roge9 Год назад +3

    mega man 4 is the goat NES mega man game in my eyes. If you look at it with a critical eye and compare it to other titles, it clearly is the best of the NES mega man games IMHO.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  Год назад +1

      Mega Man 4 is quite the experience.

  • @omegaanimations1727
    @omegaanimations1727 Год назад

    WOOOO! I can’t wait for your cover on the wily wars!

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  Год назад

      It'll take a bit, but I will get to it soon.

    • @omegaanimations1727
      @omegaanimations1727 Год назад

      @@GottaBeFrank No rush at all! (No pun intended) I’m just excited someone has mentioned the game tbh lol.

  • @Max-xd6js
    @Max-xd6js 9 месяцев назад

    The first time I got through Mega Man 3, I beat Gamma with Search Snake. I didn't even know you could use Top Spin lol!

  • @JaceyMitchell
    @JaceyMitchell 4 месяца назад

    In Mega Man 2 Air Man's weapon can one shot the big walker things that sniper joe rides. And considering the walkers soak up a ton of damage and deal a fair amount of collision damage that's really helpful. It's also useful for a lot of enemies that are placed above you. Woodman's shield is really useful while you're riding platforms in Crush Man and Wily Fortress stages since you can take out all the small enemies that assault you just standing still.

  • @uncleskeletor
    @uncleskeletor 9 месяцев назад

    17:02 I have taken your advice into consideration, but I elect to tackle Heat Man’s stage first without Item-2. But I also tend to go after Metal Man last. Maybe I’m just hardcore like that.

  • @jasonskindell9578
    @jasonskindell9578 3 месяца назад

    29:20 You do not have to use top spin, you can use snakes to hit him.

  • @IrishBrotato
    @IrishBrotato 9 месяцев назад

    In my late 20s now and grew up playing mehaman its my 2nd fav game franchise just behind zelda and i have played and beaten every megaman game ever made (just played megaman 9&10 for the first time ever a few weeks ago and they're amazing) but my fav is zero3 but my first Megaman game was megaman x1

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 10 месяцев назад

    8:17 I might be biased here, because I've been playing Mega Man since I was a child, but the Yoku Blocks in the first three games have easily recognizable patterns. Mega Man 4 through 6, on the other hand...
    But when it comes to Mega Man 2, just be careful in Heat Man's stage

  • @davidm4566
    @davidm4566 7 месяцев назад

    Mega Man 3 has a cheat when falling in pits. If you immediately press right on the 2nd controller, you won't die in pits but can just jump off the bottom. It also lets you jump much higher in normal jumps.
    I used to play with the 2nd controller on the floor and press it with my toe.

  • @skins4thewin
    @skins4thewin 5 месяцев назад

    For me, MM3 is the most overall fun game in the series! Has the best balance of great music & fun level design!
    And I think yer crazy, Snake Man's stage looks AWESOME imo! Love the textured looking rounded pipe like stage platforms, just looks cool!

  • @Demonskunk
    @Demonskunk 5 месяцев назад

    IIRC The “Budget” was “You can make it if you only work on it in your free time”, so it didn’t really have much of a budget at all.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  5 месяцев назад

      Sounds like the DOS games.

  • @davidm4566
    @davidm4566 7 месяцев назад

    I beat MM1 a couple of years without knowing about the pause trick. But I did it with emulation so I used save states.
    How anyone beat this thing back in the day without either of those is beyond me.

  • @gwgux
    @gwgux 11 месяцев назад

    lol, to this day I have not ever used top spin on Gama. I usually use search snake on the 2nd half.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  11 месяцев назад +1

      That's something I'll have to try, when I revisit the game with the re-releases.

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 2 года назад

    11:48 Yes, for those who don't know
    that's because of a music pun with their names. Rock & Roll.

  • @mayborneflower
    @mayborneflower 2 года назад

    1:44 - Music to my ears

  • @EmeralBookwise
    @EmeralBookwise 11 месяцев назад

    Getting used to them is really the key. I never owned the 2nd on original NES hardware, but I did own the 3rd and so I prefer it, if only because of how familiar I am with its particular quirks.

  • @kaelside
    @kaelside Год назад +1

    Sparkman and Get Weapon from Megaman 3 are the best songs in the series and MM3 has the best OST in the series IMHO, but its such a close race. So many amazing tracks in all the games 🙂

    • @cronoesify
      @cronoesify 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah he didn't love 3 enough for me he's on my watch list now smh

  • @GamingManual
    @GamingManual 8 месяцев назад

    Great videos and analysis. It's strange to think that even though there are SIX entries on the NES, the first half are so wonky, broken, and incomplete they really put over the latter three. I'm in the camp that thinks MM4-MM6 are the peak of the classic series on the NES, with MM5 being a slight step backward. MM4 and MM6 are timeless NES classics worthy of the undue praise MM2 has gotten for years, IMHO!

  • @jescis0
    @jescis0 Год назад

    There is a super jump in MM3 too using the second controller

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  Год назад +1

      I didn't have access to another controller to try that out.

  • @megamanmarchek8293
    @megamanmarchek8293 Год назад +2

    I don't find the Doc Robot stages to be bad but the Doc Robots themselves are atrocious! Even though they take the powers of Mega Man 2's Robot Masters, they do not have the same AI as them. The worst Doc Robot would have to be the Wood Man variant. The hitboxes on the leaves are absolutely abysmal. Also, Spark Shock is the worst weapon in Mega Man 3. It stuns enemies in place but unlike Mega Man 1, you cannot pause the game to switch to another weapon while they're stunned! Finally, you do not have to guess which clone Mega Man is the real one. The real one has a slower spawn animation than the rest.

    • @seancdaug
      @seancdaug Год назад +1

      Mega Man 3 has weird hitbox problems throughout, honestly. Doc Robot's Air Man form and the Yellow Devil are the worst examples of it.

  • @kalajel
    @kalajel 5 месяцев назад

    The leaf shield is great for those bird bombs. Stand some distance away from the bomb, activate the shield, kill all the little birds, collect all the power ups and extra lives. Rinse, repeat, profit.

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 2 года назад +2

    I like 2 fine enough but I don't know why it's the "must play" of the classics. 3, 4, and 5 were much more enjoyable games, 6 wasn't bad, my personal favorite being 4. 2 Had a few of those bs moments, especially that stupid room boss with the turrets that, requires you to have full crash ammo, in a level that doesn't really give you good spots to farm. So if you mess up at all, congrats you get to either game over yourself or spend 15 minutes over a ladder and spikes to get ammo back.

  • @DrAndyShick
    @DrAndyShick 6 месяцев назад

    I have actually beaten Yellow Devil in Mega Man 1, not only without using the pause trick, but without using the Elec weapon. I used the regular buster, getting just one hit per turn. Not as much damage, needing more precise timing and aim. But I did it.

  • @copehead2423
    @copehead2423 2 года назад +2

    If sonic frontier ids out will play it and make it a video of it

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  2 года назад

      _-Sonic is a poopy baby game.-_
      I'll play it at release. Video? We'll see.

  • @nibot2101
    @nibot2101 2 года назад +2

    Great video

  • @donskiver
    @donskiver 7 месяцев назад

    I actually had mega man 3 as a kid. Top spin is a lot easier to use if you hit A and B together. It's hit box is a little wonky, I'll admit, but it should make it a lot easier to use. From what I understand, a lot of people had trouble with it which is why you never see a boss weapon like it again in the series (until the sliding charge kick in MM5, and even that never appears again).

  • @David_Philologos
    @David_Philologos 5 месяцев назад

    MM2 and 3 were my childhood. My best achievement was beating both without dying and only using the Buster. I used Bubble and Snake on Wily though. Nowadays, I can barely beat a single level without dying. Modern gaming has changed me.

  • @dadmorris8209
    @dadmorris8209 2 года назад +1

    You are the most mega-ist totally awesome man with your videos!

  • @evileyeball
    @evileyeball 9 месяцев назад

    You are correct that the worst part of 3 is the doc robot stages but I believe it's not the slowdown in shadow man that ruins it it's the rush jet section in needle man because the weapon energy doesn't respawn on death so if you do die it becomes impossible and you must game over in order to try again.
    That segment is second only to Boo Beam Trap for NES MegaMan issues.

  • @Ecto_Fox
    @Ecto_Fox 4 месяца назад

    I love 2 and 3. the music alone makes MM3 worth playing

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  4 месяца назад

      Ehh if I was told that as a selling point, I'd rather just pull up the soundtrack on RUclips or in the Legacy Collection.

  • @bendy1427
    @bendy1427 Год назад +1

    You can use snakes to beat Gamma

  • @glenvillesax2007
    @glenvillesax2007 4 месяца назад

    Love me some Mega Man 3, most folks from the era love it. I always liked it more than 2, rush being created, the doc robot stages, that was a big deal!

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 10 месяцев назад

    11:12 i love that edit

  • @ThunderFist1978
    @ThunderFist1978 5 месяцев назад

    The biggest problem I have with Ice Man’s level in MM1 is those stupid propeller platforms. When you got shot while standing on top of one dead center, you can go right through it during the invulnerability frames and fall to your death with no chance to react.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah. I had only found out about that through a video the other day. Glad I chose to skip that altogether.

  • @ZacharyDietze
    @ZacharyDietze 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ok but Mega Man 2 and 3 are genuinely great though.
    1 is alright but the difficulty is way too insane even for classic Mega Man standards…

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 месяцев назад +1

      I was fine with 3, until I got to the doc robot stages.