1000 Point Astra Militarum Starter List - 10th Edition
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- For those looking to start an Astra Militarum army, this is my top recommended list to get into the army. 995 points based on the 10th edition index prior to the January 2024 Balance Dataslate. SMALL ERROR: THE CADIAN CASTELLANS DO NOT COME IN THE COMBAT PATROL BOXES! YOU HAVE TO BUY THEM SEPARATELY! APOLOGIES AS MY MEMORY BETRAYED ME!
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00:00 - Start
00:16 - Where to Get the Models
00:39 - Units in the List
03:14 - Character Use
04:02 - Sentinels
04:46 - Field Ordnance Battery
05:33 - Rogal Dorn
06:31 - Tactics and Strategy
10:41 - Stratagems
11:59 - Next Steps and List Changes
13:48 - Outro
Starter Army (995 points)
Astra Militarum
Incursion (1000 points)
Combined Regiment
CHARACTERS
Cadian Castellan (60 points)
• Warlord
• 1x Plasma pistol
1x Power weapon
• Enhancement: Grand Strategist
Cadian Castellan (65 points)
• 1x Laspistol
1x Power weapon
• Enhancement: Drill Commander
Cadian Command Squad (65 points)
• 1x Cadian Commander
• 1x Plasma pistol
1x Power weapon
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman
• 1x Chainsword
1x Laspistol
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman with Master Vox
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Lasgun
1x Master Vox
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman with Medi-pack
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Lasgun
1x Medi-pack
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman with Regimental Standard
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Lasgun
1x Regimental Standard
Cadian Command Squad (65 points)
• 1x Cadian Commander
• 1x Plasma pistol
1x Power weapon
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman
• 1x Chainsword
1x Laspistol
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman with Master Vox
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Lasgun
1x Master Vox
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman with Medi-pack
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Lasgun
1x Medi-pack
• 1x Cadian Veteran Guardsman with Regimental Standard
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Lasgun
1x Regimental Standard
BATTLELINE
Cadian Shock Troops (120 points)
• 2x Shock Trooper Sergeant
• 2x Close combat weapon
2x Drum-fed autogun
• 18x Shock Trooper
• 18x Close combat weapon
2x Flamer
14x Lasgun
2x Meltagun
2x Vox-caster
Cadian Shock Troops (120 points)
• 2x Shock Trooper Sergeant
• 2x Close combat weapon
2x Drum-fed autogun
• 18x Shock Trooper
• 18x Close combat weapon
2x Flamer
14x Lasgun
2x Meltagun
2x Vox-caster
OTHER DATASHEETS
Field Ordnance Battery (120 points)
• 2x Ordnance Team
• 2x Battery close combat weapons
2x Bombast field gun
2x Lasgun
2x Laspistol
Rogal Dorn Battle Tank (260 points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Castigator gatling cannon
1x Co-axial autocannon
1x Heavy stubber
2x Meltagun
2x Multi-melta
1x Oppressor cannon
Scout Sentinels (60 points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy flamer
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Sentinel chainsaw
Scout Sentinels (60 points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy flamer
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Sentinel chainsaw
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I get and respect that many people play Guard because it's a rare army that lets you play almost nothing but tanks, but nothing stirs my heart more than seeing waves and waves of Dudes marching forth into battle.
Very nice army and well painted. Love the fact that you build a army like we know them from the lore and not not 12-tanks-plus-20-guys kinda list.
It's got to be fun for both sides 😁
Love the topic! As silly as it sounds, starter list ideas are always interesting to me.
What a great video. I am just starting a guard army and this is so helpful. Thanks for taking the time to explain and share. 🎉
came across your channel recently and really enjoyed your approach- wishing there was a channel like this for every army! keep up the good work sgt
Thanks for the advice and guidance for all new guardsmen out there! I love videos like this!
My pleasure! 😁
This is awesome. Great work. Hope to see more like this.
More to come, for sure! This is already my most popular long format video from the past year. Everyone definitely likes a list review.
Hey man! Thank you for the video. Have played off and on for years and have Grey Knights currently. Your video convinced me to start Guard! Picked up all the boxes you mentioned.
Would love to see a very thematic casual all comers type list for 2000pts!
Thank you so much! Glad you have found them helpful 😃 I'll definitely be doing a 2k list review soon!
Really nice paint job! The flamers look awesome.
Thank you!!!
Crazy that points cuts now allow you to fit either drill commander and 5 scions or grand strat and 10 Catachans. Catachans would be my preferred for narrative, but scions would be more competitive
Nice video and awesome paint job!
Thank you very much! 😁
Great video, nice list thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it! 😁
Best lookin guard army on youtube 🔥 keen to see more battle reports
That is a HUGE compliment! Thank you so much!
Im gonna give this list a go. Thanks for breaking it all down for us!
Hope you enjoy it!
If I get the chance to play it, I definitely will. Thx CadianSergeantSteel. Long may Cadia stand
Very nice! Subbed!
Thank you! 😃
I haven't played since 4th edition but I have bought a few Cadia Stands boxes. I love the new models. I might have to go try 10th edition and see how it is. Thank you for putting this together.
Glad you enjoyed it and I hope you enjoy 10th edition too 😁
A few!? Do you just sell the codex cards and stuff
Those indirect fire cannons with take aim are no joke!
good roundup. I do have another recomidation regarding the infantry proxy: paint every 20man in different collours. this way you are not forced to play every inf in your list as the same unit (or getting prone to misremembering them). for example one 20man unit has the standart green/brown collour as it is now and the other get black/grey instead. now you can go into a game, say the green unit are cadians, the black unit are DKoK (or whatever you want to play) and neither you or your opponent will misremembering them. ofc you can still use both units as the same and even here it is helpfull to keep the units seperated, if they end up next to eachother during the game. this way you can also keep a theme of the army (like all cadia or all krieg) while still playing different battleline units, if you want to
I did something similar with my Guard. My normal 20-man "Cadian"/Infantry squads have a Skavenblight Dinge/Stormvermin Fur colour palette. My other 20-man unit is painted a shade darker, weathered to hell and back with drybrushes, and modelled to sport ad-hoc melee weapons, improvised armour and additional bandoliers of ammunition. These are my Catachan/DKoK stand-ins whenever required.
I got the Cadia Stands boxset. Even though I don't play, I like the new scuplts compared to the sculpts from 20 years ago. The screaming/yelling heads don't look constipated this time.
I magnetized one squad so far and the ordinance batteries. I guess the batteries don't need magnets since there are slots for weapons to fit into. But the magnets keep it more secure in case a knock makes it fall off.
Also I got the plastic Kasrkins and been magnetzing them too. It's going to be fun trying to figure out how to magnetize the demo trooper to swap out the torsos.
I’m trying to paint 3000 points for the Narrative this year, seeing this many models at only 1k points make me go.
“Shit this is gonna be alot of work.”
Contrast paints are your friend for the infantry. Air brush if you got one for the vehicles.
get custodes that would be like....3 models ;P
Tanks. Add tanks and Artillery. That Rogal Dorn is 1/3 of that list and honestly you could stop with just 4 squads of infantry. Sentinels are amazing and paint up fairly quickly.
Good video. Subbed.
Thanks for the sub! I really appreciate it!
A nice way to get back into the guard with the new models. I do miss my guardsmen.
Very different than my first list which was 2 baneblades and a commissar
Happy to see I’m not the only person who runs melta and flamer on Cadians over plasma + melta.
I think this is a great starter list! 6 units is a nice amount to keep track of whilst also allowing for diversity of units. Also it's quite easy to collect.
Please correct if wrong! I make it 960. Personally I'd drop both castellans and one of the command squads. I'd put in 2 primaris pyskers and creed in instead and give the command squad grand stratagist. 4++ is better than sustained fire. Creed is good. I've a different taste in vehicle and special weapons load outs. I prefer higher strength longer range than yourself but it's horses for courses.
Thank you for sharing this great list!
I forgot to mention the Enhancements but they are listed in thr video description. I do recommend Grand Strategist and Drill Commander if the points don't go up too much. A Tech Priest would also be another really good option. I like your ideas too.
I would definitely build 2 of each special weapon for the Cadians and have 1 blob of Flamers/Meltas, and the other have Grenade Launchers and Plasma. Grenade/Plasma combo is a swiss army knife in how you can deal with stuff, plus you can get FRFSRF to work on Plasma if you really want to just throw a ton of Plasma everywhere.
Simple but still informative great
Glad you liked it
Fantastic paint job
Thank you very much! 😁
im playin a very similar list, but instead im goin with: 2x Dkok (all my models are vostroyan tho), 1xinfantry with mortar attached command squad with mortar AND Ursula, 1 squadron of 2x sentinels a FOB and a Leman russ exterminator. So i went for this odd infantry configuration and the 2x sentinel squadron for one reason: REINFORCEMENTS! Ursula givin out free stratagem gettin an additional CP from it on a 4+.. so i should have enough cp to get a unit back every round. And i centralized my command in the one backline squad spittin out 4 infantry (sentinels can also get them remember) orders... sentinels are runnin lascanons. Ontop off all that ursulas free stratagem and the exterminator allow for some nice AP stacking.
Nice starter list and I like the limited number of boxes! Cadian Castellan doesn't come in the combat patrol box as far as I can tell. For folks that want to stick to the 3 boxes could probably kitbash from the spare field ordinance crew and leftover bits, or could drop them and use the points to take the second field ordinance battery?
Oh no! You're right... not sure if I cna fix that error now in the video. Ugh... for some reason I thought I got both of mine in the Cadia Stands boxset, but it must have been from separate purchases. Fork...
What a great looking army thanks for sharing ideas, have you any further thoughts for a video refresh on this? Now a bit of time has passed? Or would you stick as is? I really enjoyed the explanation of the how and why! Well articulated
I would generally stick to this still, but I'll be making some more starter army videos 😃
i'm looking at starting astra myself, but also like that leonatus can grant 1cp making it 2 in my turn.
i also love the fact you can get an enhancement to increase opponents strat by 1, and have the callidus assassin to do the same thing and for secondaries.
also in larger battles use corteaz to help out to gain cp in opponents turn easier if they use armies that gain cp from an ability, on a 2+.
astra is insane with cp, great control got it
Looks solid!! Creed's vengeance
This list was on the Mordian Glory channel! Praise be to the Emperor and the RUclips algorithim!
Wait, really?! Huh, that's pretty cool 😃
I LOVE your paintjob
Thank you so much! 😁
Seriously making me want to get back to painting my guard and get in the trenches!
Do it! FOR THE EMPEROR! 😃
The one drawback with Krieg is their resin command & troop squad kits don't come with medics, only in the plastic kits are the parts for medics. I got caught building Krieg by building too many plasma gunners & vox, which meant I needed to get more Krieg to not waste those minis. If I want to make other Guard unit types into Krieg will require kitbashing.
That's a positive, not a drawback. Resin is overpriced garbage
I have a 1k game tomorrow and wasn’t sure what to take as its my first game. Bit of proxying and i can field this army. Thank you!
No problem! It's a good, well rounded, combined arms list. Hopefully it does well for you.
it actually did! until my bombasts wound up the terminators a bit too much. wasnt too bad for my first ever full game @@CadianSergeantSteel
@@adamdixon8213 so glad to hear that 😃
Hey @Cadian Sergeant Steel! Nice list! Quick question, where do you get those Ropes/Ribbons hanging from the golden skull in the banner?
That banner is from the former Cadian Command Squad kit prior to the 2022 updates. It came with a few different decorations for the banner if I remember correctly.
Great video just one question where does the 6+fnp come from i cant find it anywhere
That comes from a Medicpack wargear upgrade for the Command Squads.
Hi, great video, I'm about to start an Astra Militarum army from scratch so it really helped me come out with shopping list 😁
One question, is it legal to field Shock troops with both Castellan and Cadian Command Squad? Can't see any Leader rule extension on them and normally there can only be one Leader. Did I missed something?
If you check out my Unit Review videos I cover this, I think specifically in the Cadian Shpck troops video. The multiple leader rules are in the Unit Composition of the guard Bodyguard units, such as Shock Troops.
@@CadianSergeantSteel oh I get it, thank you 😃
Made the plunge and doubling up my combat patrol to make this list!
I prefer the Stubbers in the hull and going full Dakka with the Dorn. Thats the only change I would make. But that's a personal choice as well.
I usually run my second one as a Dakka Dorn and I love it 😍
Cadian Sergeant Steel its Corporal Suga. amazing content!!! could u use the Lord Solar Leontus ? so u can attach it to a command squad for the 24" ? or im a wrong . Cpl Suga Out
Definitely! That's my recommended use of him. Maybe that will be my next unit review video 😁
Personally, I think you have too much anti-light infantry. At a minimum I would switch out all flamers for grenade launchers and missile launchers on the Sentinels. Still gives you the option of anti-light infantry, but gives you much better anti-medium/heavy infantry and even some anti-light/medium armor.
All your own infantry with their lasguns are basically anti-light infantry on their own.
That is a very fair critique and I am inclined to agree. At 1k points it does okay though against other combined arms lists.
Great starter list, I'm starting a guard army and was just wondering if it would be worth dropping a Castellan for Creed and a Commissar perhaps? What would your thoughts be?
I think it would. Creed is a great pick, but you do lose the Sustained Hits and fall back and shoot buffs. The tradeoff is a free Battle Tactic Stratagem each term. The Commissar is more useful than some folks realize.
@@CadianSergeantSteel sweet, I think I might try both lists out and see how they do 👌🏼
@@ollie8423any feedback from trying by this out? I was thinking 1 creed and 1 cas
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Honestly, there are so many affordable movement tray options out there now, I feel like we are spoiled for good options. I used MDF ones for years and they were dirt cheap.
Squeeze in a Techpriest for the Rogal Dorn if possible as well.
You probably should have waited for the Data Slate to drop, but overall I approve. The Dorn is amazing.
I thought about it but... maybe this doesn't change at all and if it does, maybe I can just drop an enhancement or two to balance it back out if the points go up.
True. Also I think grenade Launchers and Plasma guns are worth taking too. I would have done one blob all Melta and Flamers and the other be Grenade Launchers and Plasma. Grenade launcher stat line is pretty nice now.
I like more infantry for astra milltarum, and medium armour like scouts. I don't know why I don't like tanks for anything, for example battlefield games I like destroying them over being inside them.
Hahaha.. Wow.. Great minds think alike. I just got that
Right on! 😃 For the Emperor!
Going to try this list for an upcoming crusade minus the two cadian castellans instead for another field gun team. Think this could be a good try?
I think so 😃
Wouldnt the "naked" Veteran Guardsmen in the Command Sqd benefit from picking a Grenade Launcher or Plasma gun instead of Chainsword and Laspistol?
Probably would, but I really like the rule of cool.
@@CadianSergeantSteel Totally understand rule of cool! Havent played 40k in about 10 yrs. Getting back into the hobby with Guard. Your videos have been super helpful.
I'm so glad to hear that 😁 thanks for watching!
When you run meltas on the dorn, aren’t you worried about getting charged? Their range is so short
Punch hard, punch fast. You have to make sure you are taking out targets and have a backup plan for if the Dorn on it's own fails to take something out. I have found that a lot of the time my opponent's will choose to stay away from the Dorn if they can since it can clobber anything less tough than a Land Raider. I usually Daring Recon the Dorn's target too, just to get those rerolls and help boost the odds. It is a risk you have to keep in mind though. I got stuck in melee with Black Templars for 3 turns once and it was not fun.
Personally I prefer all stubbers for the dorn with multimelta sponsons, cannon in the hull and oppressor.
So I don't get have a rogal dorn yet but I do have a bunch of lemon russes. What should I sub for the rodal?
I would substitute a Vanquisher as an Oppressor Cannon Rogal Dorn loadout
Thank you@@CadianSergeantSteel
Do you find you are using more CP on overwatch since the flamers would auto-hit? Are opponents choosing to not charge the sentinels with that loadout?
I rarely do. It's typically not enough to make a difference. But depends on the charging unit, really.
@@CadianSergeantSteel Thanks, I mainly run autocannon on the sentinels. With that loadout overwatch doesn't really seem worth it as the CP is better spent elsewhere.
@@entimger_heggie autocannons are honestly underrated
Hello! I see you have a big magnifier lamp in the background. Do you know of any that are 15-20x or more?
15-20? I'm not sure I understand.
@@CadianSergeantSteel 15 power to 20 power magnification. Also shown as 15x and 20x. I'm trying to find quality glass capable of higher magnification because all I can find is up to 10x.
Oh, okay. I'm sorry, I don't think I'm very knowledgeable about studio lighting then. I bought a set that had the kelvin rating I wanted and diffuser sheeta over them, which is all I was looking for. I am less familiar about the magnification rating of them.
@@CadianSergeantSteel oh no. I wasn't talking about the studio lighting. I meant the magnifying lamp behind you on the right of the screen. So when you're sitting your left. So it's a ring lamp with a magnified lens in the center for detail work like paioting. I have a 10 power already and was wondering if you knew of any models with higher magnification.
OOOOH! Sorry, that makes WAY more sense to me now 😅 that is just a phone holder and is how I shoot video while painting. For magnification I use jewlers glasses or whatever you call them.
only problem with the renaforcements strat is that it is effected by battleshock, if battleshock u can't bring them back
This is very true. Luckily if a unit is just wiped out in a single turn, you don't have to worry about that. The work around is to do the one thing no one recommends but works... use a Commissar.
@@CadianSergeantSteel true also it just funny when he the one to finish the unit lol
also bombas gun can be resureced too cause it has the regementl key word which is funny tho I don't think the hunter killer come back
Question. What about the Castellans? If you run as 2 bricks of 20 guardsmen, led by the Command Squads, the Castellans can't join.
2 Commander units can join same squad in the Guard (limited to 1 command squad).
They can in the Astra Militarum. Battleline units have a Unit Composition rule that allows up to two Leaders to join but never more than 1 Command Squad.
@@CadianSergeantSteel oh, cool, thanks for the clarification
Where is the link for the movement trays
It is in the description but here you go: For 10% off clear movement trays with coupon code CADIANSERGEANT: squadmarks.com/?ref=yxprmr0k
2:41 "This gives me hentai infantry, this gives me hentai armor"
I need to work on my "an" sounds 🤣
Yeah or start a Slaaneshi army, either way.
what three box sets did you get to make this army
Two Combat Patrols, a Cadian Castellan, and a Rogal Dorn. That will leave you with an extra set of Field Ordnance Battery models.
WHERE DID TOU GET THAT CHAINSWORD?!?!
Cody Universal Cosplay designed and printed it for me. He is on Etsy and Instagram.
It's a shame air units are so disappointing. I enjoy seeing more combined warfare in a space game. Its still very ground dominant. Ground scenarios are cool, but the struggle for air superiority and airborne lethality is rather shallow and even non-existent when air units are permitted. Not to forget Warhammer seems to shy away from water scenarios too.
I don't know... I've been taking my planes to games for all of 10th edition and I've done pretty darn good with them, especially the Thunderbolt.
@@CadianSergeantSteel I'm watching your Battle Report videos! I really like your filming and dialogue style! Camera always on the board and the dialogue with the guest is very concise and easy to follow.
I will be keeping an eye on your aircraft use. But there's a reason Astra Militarum tournament winners don't use them at all. They go all ground. You play against some good players so I'm interested in how you get it done