Alfa isn’t too bad anymore honestly! But I do want more people to continue believing they’re unreliable so that we can pickup used Quadrifoglios for cheap 😂😂😂 keep telling people they’re break! You’re doing Gods work
Alfa isn’t too bad anymore honestly! But I do want more people to continue believing they’re unreliable so that we can pickup used Quadrifoglios for cheap 😂😂😂 keep telling people they’ll break! You’re doing Gods work
@@elvistwattya Dodge that is based on an Alfa Romeo that is based on a Jeep that is based on a Fiat. The starting point of all this disgrace is the Fiat 500x. Then the Jeep Renegade came, then it has been reworked A LOT in years, for example by changing the chassis to use two different AWD systems, or for being a plug-in hybrid, or both. When everybody was convinced that FCA (now Stellantis) wouldn't make another car on that chassis because it was old and extremely painfully adapted, the Alfa Romeo Tonale was presented. And now, just by changing a couple of logos here and there, we have the Dodge Hornet. In an almost 15 years old chassis. What could possibly go wrong? :D
The Hurricane engine was designed in the U.S. at the old Chrysler Tech Center in Auburn Hills, Michigan. It's the first engine in the Hurricane program, the second being the twin turbo straight six that will replace the 5.7 Hemi in the Jeeps and Trucks. This engine is built in Saltillo, Mexico and shipped to Italy for final assembly.
Tell me why we're sending American parts to Italy for final assembly. Just to jack up the domestic price for Americans who could build it here. Unemployment is high, what the fuck are we doing that for?
@@WhyDidRUclipsDoThis Because the auto industry is build on backroom dealings. You scratch my back, I'll lobby my government for you. You have to do favors for the big dogs in Europe from time to time.
Every time Dodge comes out with a new small vehicle, people are hopeful. But then realiity sets after year 2, and we all know this will share fate with Caliber and Dart. RIP Hornet.
Not entirely fair, since those two buckets were rushed into production by government mandate after a massive corporate bail out. They never would’ve had a chance to be good
I have a 2015 Dart that I drive an hour to and from work five days a week.. they were supposed to have come with 9-speed automatic transmissions, I often wonder how much better it would be if it wasn't rushed to production. It is a good car that could have been better with time, not unlike any other thing in this world
yeah almost everything dodge has been shit quality, among the worst in the world for the price. They also have been known to depreciate in value faster than almost any other make. So will be interesting to see what happens now
Right? There's value and money in cutting costs, using cheap materials, and not investing in reliability. Sometimes, a company needs to do this. But when it's the whole business model forever, people lose trust and the company loses money. There's no reason to trust this or buy this unless you're okay with having catastrophic issues year 2.
@@eugenerichards3977Exactly right, there’s a used hornet with 2,000 miles for sale for $21,000 at my local dealer. 2 Months ago someone bought it for 32k$
This is their new neon, which they've always had in some capacity. However! Everything, including this, does in fact need to be a hellcat. Supercharged v8 and all
@@yissibiiyte Considering the current market, I've seen Raptors, Broncos and Wranglers relegated to being on grocery store and school run duties. Some of them have never even gone slightly off road, just parking lot queens.
I was just trying to figure out what 90s Jap car the dodge styling department used for their homework. It looks like an old base lancer that someone threw a hatchback on and put stilts under it
Mitsubishi shares its platform with jeep compass, and Jeep shares its platform with alpha, and alpha shares its platform with dodge. I thinks we are back to a full circle
@@eoinkenny3188 dodge stealing designs? We gonna ignore that Ford, Toyota and Gm and Honda just to name a few. Completely stole the front bumper from the charger and taillights from dodge? Dodge is usually the first company to come up with a well designed car then the other companies copy and paste. 19+ camaro and Honda accord = front end of the charger. Fords and Lincoln and Toyota stole the taillights on a few cars. That’s what all companies do they copy what’s being successful. Dodge is very popular so they copy them
@@DFWsCars Lol... right, only "first year Giulias." Then explain the owner forums where every single model year of the Giulia/Stelvio have endless lists of major problems owners are having.
@@mattspeer01 Oh really? What Alfa forum are you referring to? The Giulia/Stelvio cars have about the same reliability scores as their competition, and NO major problems as long as you stick with the base 4-cylinder engine. The QV is another thing entirely, both in performance and pricing.
This HAS to be one of the best intro@ to your videos guys! Honestly keep up the great work you do. Everytime I see a new upload my day feels tremendously better! Much love from Germany❤
that is such a cool little ride! if the GLH gets the I6 (which i know it wont because the original was a turbo 4 and brands these days rarely increase cylinder count) i'll camp by my nearest dealership to put an order in.
There's something off about its looks. From the front, it looks like a lifted hatch rather than designed from the start as a cross. The Alfa doesn't suffer that. Wheels look too small for it on that trim level, too.
I bought a red Dodge Hornet with the Track Pack a few weeks ago and it really is a lot of fun to drive. I generally drive pretty relaxed in town but on highways, I'll get on it from time to time. I'm clocking in around 5.9-6.0 seconds 0-60 mph at ~700 ft above sea level. Although, I would say the car shines in 30-70 mph passing power. You'll be cruising along and then get on it and the car will surprising pull really hard with a pretty wide power band. Time will tell how reliable the car will be, so I went ahead and got an extended warranty from the dealer I bought it from. I cross-shopped this with a CX-30/CX-5, Kona N, and a Crosstrek/Outback.
Good info, thank you! Dealer by me is getting the GT + soon. My Cherokee lease is about to be done. Looking to take one of these. Give it a shot. I am on my 4th jeep. Never one issue. The Cherokee is a little monster.
@@1kenstar not particularly, make sure you squeeze the trigger on the shifter all the way before shifting between reverse, park, drive, etc. My previous vehicle was a 2000 Dodge Durango and the gear shifter was on the steering column and that required more force than shifting on the Hornet.
This intro is unparalleled. Credit to the sound designer for that bee sounding intro, I love that the music is so customized for each car. Really makes the video pop.
Had a brand new one come in at my dealership and right out of the box it had 174 DTCs (not exaggerating), all the dash lights were on and the steering angle sensor was out of calibration. It had 4 miles on the odometer so I’d say 30k would be a miracle.
I test drove a base model Hornet, and it had the hardest seats i've ever sat on. Literally hard has a wood plank. I guess they're not the same seats has the upper trims.
We're they almost like hard plastic? I've encountered those in some newer Jeeps I've ridden in. I assumed it was for the intended "outdoorsy" audience to easily clean mud and debris. No clue why they'd be in this though.
As always another great video and review so well done. But that intro with the flies made me damn near spot my coffee out. Especially when you said, “is your name Be drillin, cause I’ll be drillin you later”…. That was amazing😂
Dodge cannot afford to disown it. They don't have the vehicle line up to disown a vehicle like this. This is a very important vehicle for them. It has to succeed.
@@ducktails1695Dodge has more than enough money to disown this. The Challenger and Charger have butched the market share of GM and Ford recently. The only reason why this car was even made is due to emission regulations on manufacturers.
The Dart was never cool. It was just Big 3 fanboys swearing it would be a class-leading compact, when it was one of the clunkiest. Shame, I thought it looked great.
Everyone in the comments all of a sudden own a dodge and know it’s reliability,I have a 2018 Durango I do my regular maintenance and still works like a charm, you maintain your vehicle it should last you a lifetime if you can’t afford it don’t own a car.
The newest CX-5 style is growing on me, something is still a little off in the front for me, idk what it is. The CX-50 is gorgeous and aggressive looking, and basically the same price as the CX-5. I would take both over this thing lol in a heart beat
I have owned several Mazdas throughout the years. Never an issue Modded Mazdaspeed 6 Modded Mazdaspeed 3 Regular Mazda 3 Mazda CX-3 Now a Mazda CX-30 AWD Turbo Cool vehicles and lighyears more reliable than Dodge 🤣 all my friend's Challengers and Chargers (3 Chargers and 2 Challengers between 4 friends) are always breaking down. My friends Charger blew a head gasket going 72mph with cruise control set! Literally just cruising. Car only had 27k on the odometer. My friends Hellcat blew up after 5 months with just an exhaust and intake. All my turbo Mazdas were/are modded and tuned on 93 octane and I drive them hard and never have to worry
@@dammagrilla Got my '06 in '09. Please tell me yours in straight piped turbo back!?! Sounds sooooo sick! I have half a mind to straight pipe my CX-30 🤣 now that there are tuning solutions out for it.
I've always wondered why almost no car manufactures ever pads that center console where your knee rests. They all seem to overlook the comfort there complete. Across town you may not notice, but after an all-day cross country you will definitely feel a tender spot where your knee has rested against the center console for hours. In any event, Dodge has always been about affordable performance. That was the Dodge brothers main driving force, and goes back to the start of the company.
4:11 I LIKE sequential shifter modes. If I'm the passenger, I can look ahead and shift at the points that are the most efficient. If I'm driving, it makes me feel like I'm driving a sequential race transmission.
The term "backhanded compliment" comes to mind. I love you guys, and I know that this is a tough car to get excited about. I appreciate that you kept everything in perspective. I agree, 30K makes sense for this car. Maybe some maniac 20-something year old tuners will milk these things into an enthusiast car.
This kinda reminds me of the one amg crossover that Mercedes’ made forgot the name wasn’t it the gla 45 amg? Where it was to small to be a true crossover but to heavy to be a hatchback nobody liked it and the thing is super cheap to buy now maybe this ends up like that where it’s in a purgatory of to sporty for the normies and to heavy and normie for the enthusiasts
Great review as always guys but I still HATE Dodge for killing the potential Alfa sales by doing this version. As a recent new Alfa owner and now fan/supporter of the brand, they don't deserve the rep they currently have anymore in my opinion. Sadly the Tonale is going to be too close in price to the Stelvio which will also hurt it's sales unless people just want the smaller size with the mild hybrid.
The reality is the vast majority of consumers will never know that the Hornet and Alfa are the same car. The general public is pretty clueless about these things, and have no idea what Stellantis is.
@@The_Stanmanexactly. Same as with other brands. The average person doesn’t know A4/Jetta, Civic /Now Integra, etc are basically the same car. Every other brand does it and they sell. Biggest problem is Alfa doesn’t market for shi*! They also don’t have a line up to compare with the big dogs…and they’ve only been back for a few years so they have a huge disadvantage.
Before buying, check the Recall, it is a very good car but it already has two recalls: 1) the battery cable shorts and the car stops moving 2) the forward collision sensors turn on when the car has not collided
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Considering what's offered for vehicles these days, no concern is overblown. These two guys certainly did nothing to allay my fears.
I think it's a nice little car with some legitimate potential in the upper models. Make it look a bit more aggressive in the R/T and above models and it should be a solidly good looking car for what it is. Also, James dropping a Benedict Arnold reference got me good
I just remember how this car went into limp mode with all the dash lights on after TFL did the slip test with this car, on paper it sounds like a great car but in practice it's not off to a good start 😬
My brother is a big dodge guy (even a main tech at a dealership) and he’s gotten to drive a few. They are nice day to day cars, but definitely not performance machines from the factory. Really hoping there’s a lot of aftermarket support for these because they are beautiful vehicles
I think I saw a RacerX video where some famous "tuner" got a hold of one of these and made a decent small drag strip car So I think the possibility is there to turn one of these into a nice "hot street car" if you have the money.
@@douglassalley9117 with enough money you can make any car fun haha I have a 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart to I built the engine up with using forged internals and everything so I could slap a big ole HX35 on it and it’s a blast 😂 the hornet is AWD though so I could see it being pretty awesome if someone built one right haha
I totally agree....the point I was trying to make, it seems like these new engines will be "tune able" . The PSI was changed and a few other things and they had a 600+ horse power small "SUV". Se use to call them "sleepers". @@jellyfish1433
@TheRealCatof The Hurricane-4 isn't really a that new. It's a corporate engine that's been used in the Wrangler and Cherokee for years now. So there’s been some years to monitor its long term reliability. Dodge is just trying to market this motor as being extremely new/fresh
@TheRealCatof I only said the motor itself is not as new as Dodge and all these reviewers are trying to make it seem. Nothing about whether it’s reliable or not. Learn to read
im a dodge tech. im driving the electrified trim right now. it fills the tourque in amazingly. i have a cammed c5 corvette snd the tourque i felt was very similar. really feel in in your stomach but this was only in 1-3 gears. it drops off after that
1: Discontinue Dodge Charger and Challenger that could be had with a V8 for low 30s even just a few years ago. 2: Make cornball badge replaced 4 cylinder SUV with Italian reliability. 3: Charge more than what a V8 muscle car used to cost pre-Covid.
First year model and a mix of all the low reliability based vehicle manufacturers... I've stated in other videos about the Hornet that if Dodge (Stellantis) can bring the dependability up to the level of at least the outgoing models of the Charger/Challenger within the first two model years, I think they will be able to gather up some market share. People like me will be watching them closely for recalls and dependability issues... especially major ones like the Dart had. Their non-V8 engines have not had the best track record over the history of the company. I want to see them succeed. We can always use another successful auto manufacturer, because it makes everyone else step up their game. They have some great ideas for this initial entry vehicle, executing those with a high level of quality and dependability is going to be key.
Didn't know about these, and after considered many others, ended up going with a Mazda CX-30 Turbo. By the way, I ran across a common complaint about how wireless chargers make cellphones get seriously hot. Just something to keep in mind.
Except the Kona N is a full 1.5 seconds faster to 60, handles way better, and actually sounds good. The marketing for this car was all over the place when I was shopping for my N, and I looked at the Hornet as a comparison for about 2 minutes before laughing at the performance specs and closing the tab.
@thewardenduncan9496 Agreed. Like the Kona N 10 x better. I also just purchased a 2023 Elantra N, which so far has been awesome. I have been going back in forth between Veloster N, Kona N, Kia Stinger GT2, and the Elantra N.
@@godzilla7391 I probably would have gone Elantra N if they had one anywhere in my state when I was buying. Also might have gone Veloster N if the interior wasn't so much worse than the other two, lol. But as it stands, I came from a 2014 WRX, and I definitely prefer the Kona N to that, even with the lack of AWD.
Sat in one at local auto show (jeep country) very narrow, I'm not obese but I don't skip leg day either so fitting in there wasn't comfy for the minimal time in the seat, definitely for snow birds and squeaks
I'm really curious to see how reliable these things end up being because it's basically a combination of the least reliable major brands. I think the Hornet looks better than the Alfa though.
@@flacjacket I understand the mainstream volume 2.0 turbo Alfa models are mostly fine, but the V6 models are nightmares for a lot of owners. Which mostly backs up what you're saying overall, because they're not selling many V6s compared to 2.0Ts; most of what they sell is offering competitive reliability. That's all with the longitudinal RWD cars though, time will tell how this FWD platform does.
@@belloviper Dodge brands are sort of a mix, but it's only recently that JEEP climbed up from the bottom of the list, but you ARE right, in recent years, they have been improving.
There is plenty of “reliability” talk for this dodge based on previous models and comparison to Mazda but the 2.3 Turbo from Mazda had plenty of issues with Turbo failure , timing chain issues as well as SV-T problems. Secondly , I never heard these types of reliability concerns when testing Kia/Hyundai/Genesis when they consistently have fire related problems.
Kia/Hyundai have a particular V6 that is notorious for failure and they rarely even question in anymore. Then they'll slap another 100k mile warranty on the new engine rather than re-engineer it. I've known two people who have had this engine fail and be replaced: one being my girlfriend, another being a coworker... just a few months ago LOL!
the 2.3 Turbo was sourced from Ford, Mazda uses a 2.5 now which looks to be Toyota level reliable. With regards to the Kia/Hyundai/Genesis their theta 2 engines are notorious for bombing themselves.
@@Jackinacox You've got it backwards. The Mazda L-series engines were shared with Ford, but they were a Mazda design. Mazda stopped developing the LF in 2010 when they switched to the trouble-prone Skyactive-G engines. Ford continued on developing the series for much longer. It was part of a cost sharing arrangement. In exchange for the use of the L-series engines, Mazda used Ford Duratec V6 engines.
@SirOsisofLiver the skyactiv engines have been rock solid reliable. Only the first 2 years they had some carbon related issues like most DI engines at the time. Other than that, they have been Toyota reliable.
My Mazda CX-30 with the basic engine (191HP, 186lb-ft) has been clocked to 60 in 7.3 seconds. I was smart enough to buy the basic S (added dealer leather) just over 3000 lbs. The turbo CX-30 weighs in at over 3500 lbs. so you lose a good amount of your acceleration to weight. I posted this to say the breaks are good, and the handling excellent, and it's made in Japan not Italy where turbo charging is required for performance.
Great review,... I'm also liking the Hornet quite a bit... They need to do an SRT version, maybe the hybrid with the 2.0, or an SRT with the 3L Hurricane turbo straight 6.
While I was never the biggest Dodge fan... quite surprised by this one! It should get a rally pack with flaps behind the wheels, smaller rims and all terrain tires. :D It's got a nice simple but sporty body design.
Didn't know this car existed until I saw this video! I appreciate the styling, it's funky but stylish, I tend to go for stuff like that. I'm really sus on Dodge reliability tho, though I guess this engine is one of their better ones...how's the transmission? I thought the Dart was great when it launched a decade ago but now you don't see them because they didn't last similar to the Caliber before that and the Neon before that. Until proven otherwise, that's what I'm gonna expect from this Hornet.
I am Old, Stodgy, & and Conservative. The mature design & build of my Dodge Mini Van served me well. Darn seats weighted a TON though (year before fold-ins). Hopefully my Third Generation, Kia Forte (non-turbo) will serve me well also. I would enjoy fancier, I just don't have the time or money to fritter away anymore.
Ive had mine for just over a month and other then software issues. :( It works pretty good, it does have a little kick to it when the turbo kicks in, but the continuous warning lights coming on are getting to be a little too much. I know all the ones sold in my city all have software issues.
Typical necessities for the U.S car buyer, and Canada. Everybody wants SUVs- oh so useful but rarely ever practical for ppl that just drive around town.
I have one as a service loaner right now, the weakest points are the seats, feel of the steering wheel, laggy reverse camera, and my personal fave the door locks lag to unlock the car. The handling is good but its so uncomfortable on the inside I hate driving it.
I love when automakers make special badges for their vehicles. Toyota does that a lot and it’s one of the reasons why i like them. Too bad that it’s usually reserved for their domestic market. Like the Venza, which is called a Harrier everywhere else in the world, used to have a harrier badge, but the current generation don’t get them anymore, even on Harrier named models.
I owned a Dodge Shelby GLH Omni, a blast to drive. One complaint from the automotive press was its lack of 4/all wheel drive. I hope Dodge reviews it’s history 😉!!
I thought you would have at least mentioned the similarities to the Kona N, being a FWD performance cross-over, roughly the same horsepower, adaptive suspension, and "go fast button"
Alfa Romeo + Dodge = Master reliability
Alfa isn’t too bad anymore honestly! But I do want more people to continue believing they’re unreliable so that we can pickup used Quadrifoglios for cheap 😂😂😂 keep telling people they’re break! You’re doing Gods work
Alfa isn’t too bad anymore honestly! But I do want more people to continue believing they’re unreliable so that we can pickup used Quadrifoglios for cheap 😂😂😂 keep telling people they’ll break! You’re doing Gods work
Two negatives cancel out lol
Didn't another RUclips channel have one of these and it broke down instantly...
Saying it twice doesn’t make it true😊
The front end gives me modern eagle talon vibes
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Rental lots will be stacked with these things, and honestly this would be an amazing rental car.
guess what Avis just gave me lolol
@@anuragrajagopal7553 how was it ? 😂😂
I'm new to this channel. Are the bought off by manufacturers or non-bias?
I work at avis/budget as an auto mechanic and I can say the Hornet spends too much time in the shop
I work for an AVIS Budget as a counter rep. We get a few of them. I've been told a Hyundai Santa Fe is better. 🤷🏼
Every time James says "And I'm James" it feels like Thomas is the dad and James is the excited kid getting to drive his first sweet car.🤣
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James' face when he launched the Honnet cracked me up.
Every time 😂
The steering wheels always looks big for his small hands too 🤣
Yup. I totes agree! 😅
An Italian-made Dodge... sure sounds reliable.
Apparently both based on a jeep
@@elvistwattya Dodge that is based on an Alfa Romeo that is based on a Jeep that is based on a Fiat.
The starting point of all this disgrace is the Fiat 500x.
Then the Jeep Renegade came, then it has been reworked A LOT in years, for example by changing the chassis to use two different AWD systems, or for being a plug-in hybrid, or both.
When everybody was convinced that FCA (now Stellantis) wouldn't make another car on that chassis because it was old and extremely painfully adapted, the Alfa Romeo Tonale was presented.
And now, just by changing a couple of logos here and there, we have the Dodge Hornet.
In an almost 15 years old chassis.
What could possibly go wrong? :D
Cars have been international for a very long time. Including, Dodge.
@@artemis83Dodge is living rent free in your mind :D
Alfa isn’t that bad. All stories I’ve seen affected first year Giulia.
The Hurricane engine was designed in the U.S. at the old Chrysler Tech Center in Auburn Hills, Michigan. It's the first engine in the Hurricane program, the second being the twin turbo straight six that will replace the 5.7 Hemi in the Jeeps and Trucks. This engine is built in Saltillo, Mexico and shipped to Italy for final assembly.
Seems like an ore deal to complete assembly of this engine.
I could imagine shipping costs highly affect the price. Hell ordering anything overseas
Tell me why we're sending American parts to Italy for final assembly. Just to jack up the domestic price for Americans who could build it here. Unemployment is high, what the fuck are we doing that for?
@@WhyDidRUclipsDoThisjust to say it's Italian engineering. 😂
@@WhyDidRUclipsDoThis unemployment hasn't been this low since 1969
@@WhyDidRUclipsDoThis Because the auto industry is build on backroom dealings. You scratch my back, I'll lobby my government for you. You have to do favors for the big dogs in Europe from time to time.
Dudes, your intros are unrivalled and make my day 😂
Yep. As unrivalled as even Doug Demuro.
ok
Every time Dodge comes out with a new small vehicle, people are hopeful. But then realiity sets after year 2, and we all know this will share fate with Caliber and Dart. RIP Hornet.
Not entirely fair, since those two buckets were rushed into production by government mandate after a massive corporate bail out. They never would’ve had a chance to be good
I have a 2015 Dart that I drive an hour to and from work five days a week.. they were supposed to have come with 9-speed automatic transmissions, I often wonder how much better it would be if it wasn't rushed to production. It is a good car that could have been better with time, not unlike any other thing in this world
yeah almost everything dodge has been shit quality, among the worst in the world for the price. They also have been known to depreciate in value faster than almost any other make. So will be interesting to see what happens now
Right? There's value and money in cutting costs, using cheap materials, and not investing in reliability. Sometimes, a company needs to do this. But when it's the whole business model forever, people lose trust and the company loses money. There's no reason to trust this or buy this unless you're okay with having catastrophic issues year 2.
The dart should of been called the neon, it wouldn’t have saved it but maybe it would of had a stronger start.
There's nothing Dodge about this thing except the reliability.
Hahaha
Get the phev edition has 383 torque
This will be like the 200 , buy it for 30 when you hit the street it will be worth 15 immediately 🤭🤣😂
@@eugenerichards3977Exactly right, there’s a used hornet with 2,000 miles for sale for $21,000 at my local dealer. 2 Months ago someone bought it for 32k$
better than recall king Ford
It's a good little "normal" car. People forget Dodge have ALWAYS made regular cars and not everything needs to be a Hellcat
This is their new neon, which they've always had in some capacity. However! Everything, including this, does in fact need to be a hellcat. Supercharged v8 and all
TFL did a roller slip test on one of these and it completely shut down. It basically panicked and got back into the whom...
I've been literally yelling this at people on IG LOL
@@TermlessHGW okay so it sucks off-road. I'm sure crossover buyers are going to be devastated by that
@@yissibiiyte Considering the current market, I've seen Raptors, Broncos and Wranglers relegated to being on grocery store and school run duties. Some of them have never even gone slightly off road, just parking lot queens.
Looks ok but if someone switched out the logo to a Mitsubishi Logo, I'd have believed that, too.
I was just trying to figure out what 90s Jap car the dodge styling department used for their homework.
It looks like an old base lancer that someone threw a hatchback on and put stilts under it
THANK YOU I was thinking the same thing. This is what Mitsubishi should have evolved into instead of their hideous current design direction.
I thought it was a Mitsubishi at first with the 2 red lines
Mitsubishi shares its platform with jeep compass, and Jeep shares its platform with alpha, and alpha shares its platform with dodge. I thinks we are back to a full circle
@@eoinkenny3188 dodge stealing designs? We gonna ignore that Ford, Toyota and Gm and Honda just to name a few. Completely stole the front bumper from the charger and taillights from dodge? Dodge is usually the first company to come up with a well designed car then the other companies copy and paste. 19+ camaro and Honda accord = front end of the charger. Fords and Lincoln and Toyota stole the taillights on a few cars. That’s what all companies do they copy what’s being successful. Dodge is very popular so they copy them
You guys are the best. The perfect amount of objectivity and whimsy. No matter the car, the fun is always there with you guys doing the review. Thanks
Alfa and dodge: a match made in Mechanic's heaven
Not if you get paid by the hour Lol
Alfa isn’t that bad anymore (owned one). All stories I’ve seen affected first year Giulias.
@@DFWsCars Lol... right, only "first year Giulias." Then explain the owner forums where every single model year of the Giulia/Stelvio have endless lists of major problems owners are having.
@@mattspeer01European car owners are like women with two black eyes saying, "He's actually really sweet."
@@mattspeer01 Oh really? What Alfa forum are you referring to? The Giulia/Stelvio cars have about the same reliability scores as their competition, and NO major problems as long as you stick with the base 4-cylinder engine. The QV is another thing entirely, both in performance and pricing.
This HAS to be one of the best intro@ to your videos guys! Honestly keep up the great work you do. Everytime I see a new upload my day feels tremendously better! Much love from Germany❤
@Baranie Aravindan
Completely agree!!
Does this reviewer know what a manual transmission is? He's looking for "paddle shifters" LOL...What a joke!
Totally agree. This has to bee one of the best.
that is such a cool little ride! if the GLH gets the I6 (which i know it wont because the original was a turbo 4 and brands these days rarely increase cylinder count) i'll camp by my nearest dealership to put an order in.
You guys consistently nail these videos and make my day so much better
Some might say they toe-nailed it.
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@@fcbandwagonlona7315I expected this comment. Thank you😂
@@danailivanov8301idgi please explain to me
They're not even close to prime Top Gear or The Grand Tour.
@Mihir Sunkara
Here here! 👍
There's something off about its looks. From the front, it looks like a lifted hatch rather than designed from the start as a cross. The Alfa doesn't suffer that. Wheels look too small for it on that trim level, too.
a crossover is a lifted hatchback buddy
It looks like a hatchback that was pumped with air like a balloon
It definitely looks weird..
It´s a 90s Mitsubishi Galant made van
the ground clearance looks ridiculous on it yes
Love it!! I didn’t know it was correlated with Alfa Romeo! Love it!! My friend just got one traded in a Volvo X60 for it!
I bought a red Dodge Hornet with the Track Pack a few weeks ago and it really is a lot of fun to drive. I generally drive pretty relaxed in town but on highways, I'll get on it from time to time. I'm clocking in around 5.9-6.0 seconds 0-60 mph at ~700 ft above sea level. Although, I would say the car shines in 30-70 mph passing power. You'll be cruising along and then get on it and the car will surprising pull really hard with a pretty wide power band. Time will tell how reliable the car will be, so I went ahead and got an extended warranty from the dealer I bought it from. I cross-shopped this with a CX-30/CX-5, Kona N, and a Crosstrek/Outback.
Honnet*
Good info, thank you! Dealer by me is getting the GT + soon. My Cherokee lease is about to be done. Looking to take one of these. Give it a shot. I am on my 4th jeep. Never one issue. The Cherokee is a little monster.
😢shoulda gone kona N
Does your gear shift feel kind of hard to shift? I feel like I have to give a little force when changing the gears 😩
@@1kenstar not particularly, make sure you squeeze the trigger on the shifter all the way before shifting between reverse, park, drive, etc. My previous vehicle was a 2000 Dodge Durango and the gear shifter was on the steering column and that required more force than shifting on the Hornet.
This intro is unparalleled. Credit to the sound designer for that bee sounding intro, I love that the music is so customized for each car. Really makes the video pop.
I’ve liked these things sense they were announced. Doubt they can do 30k miles without issues though.
Had a brand new one come in at my dealership and right out of the box it had 174 DTCs (not exaggerating), all the dash lights were on and the steering angle sensor was out of calibration. It had 4 miles on the odometer so I’d say 30k would be a miracle.
@@picomanbungace4035That doesn't even surprise me, lol.
@@picomanbungace4035good god already ??? 😭😭😭
@@picomanbungace4035that happens to literally every single new model at least once lol
That look cracked me up 3:00 good job James very captivating sir
I test drove a base model Hornet, and it had the hardest seats i've ever sat on. Literally hard has a wood plank. I guess they're not the same seats has the upper trims.
The GT is the base model
@@joshuamcgarity1109 well, the “base” GT then. It had 17 inch silver wheels with little brakes.
We're they almost like hard plastic? I've encountered those in some newer Jeeps I've ridden in. I assumed it was for the intended "outdoorsy" audience to easily clean mud and debris. No clue why they'd be in this though.
I noticed Thomas never actually commented on how it handles either
I have the base gt. I find the seats to be comfortable. I guess it's up to the person
As always another great video and review so well done. But that intro with the flies made me damn near spot my coffee out. Especially when you said, “is your name Be drillin, cause I’ll be drillin you later”…. That was amazing😂
Not gonna lie, I'd watch an entire fly review. 😁
The intro though! 😂. Consistently one of the best RUclipsrs and car review duo!
"...and I'm JAMES".......that's gotta be the most enthusiastic introduction yet!...lol.
ThT look James gives the camera when he “launches”it - hilarious!!!
I feel a dart scenario coming . Cool at first , then Dodge disowned it .
Dodge cannot afford to disown it. They don't have the vehicle line up to disown a vehicle like this. This is a very important vehicle for them. It has to succeed.
@@ducktails1695Dodge has more than enough money to disown this. The Challenger and Charger have butched the market share of GM and Ford recently. The only reason why this car was even made is due to emission regulations on manufacturers.
Wait, the Dart was cool at first? I don't recall that ever being the case.
The Dart was never cool. It was just Big 3 fanboys swearing it would be a class-leading compact, when it was one of the clunkiest. Shame, I thought it looked great.
@@victreebel170 Good news...Toyota like the Dart looks too and made the new Prius.
Everyone in the comments all of a sudden own a dodge and know it’s reliability,I have a 2018 Durango I do my regular maintenance and still works like a charm, you maintain your vehicle it should last you a lifetime if you can’t afford it don’t own a car.
The newest CX-5 style is growing on me, something is still a little off in the front for me, idk what it is. The CX-50 is gorgeous and aggressive looking, and basically the same price as the CX-5. I would take both over this thing lol in a heart beat
Style is def a preference
I've seen a couple CX-50s and they are really cool looking!
I have owned several Mazdas throughout the years. Never an issue
Modded Mazdaspeed 6
Modded Mazdaspeed 3
Regular Mazda 3
Mazda CX-3
Now a Mazda CX-30 AWD Turbo
Cool vehicles and lighyears more reliable than Dodge 🤣 all my friend's Challengers and Chargers (3 Chargers and 2 Challengers between 4 friends) are always breaking down. My friends Charger blew a head gasket going 72mph with cruise control set! Literally just cruising. Car only had 27k on the odometer. My friends Hellcat blew up after 5 months with just an exhaust and intake. All my turbo Mazdas were/are modded and tuned on 93 octane and I drive them hard and never have to worry
@@andrewsolis2988Nice! I still have my (heavily) modded Mazdaspeed 6... not too many people really even know about 'em
@@dammagrilla Got my '06 in '09. Please tell me yours in straight piped turbo back!?! Sounds sooooo sick!
I have half a mind to straight pipe my CX-30 🤣 now that there are tuning solutions out for it.
I've always wondered why almost no car manufactures ever pads that center console where your knee rests. They all seem to overlook the comfort there complete. Across town you may not notice, but after an all-day cross country you will definitely feel a tender spot where your knee has rested against the center console for hours.
In any event, Dodge has always been about affordable performance. That was the Dodge brothers main driving force, and goes back to the start of the company.
This is an Italian car
@@RUclipsuser1aa my alfa giulia has padding on the center console where my knee goes. The tonale and hornet are simply smaller and cheaper cars.
I really don't know what Thomas is talking about. I'm 6"1' and have the GT plus with leather seats and my knee don't touch the center at all.
Lexus does in the is 350
@@race777 maybe he has to spread his legs wide for comfort
4:11 I LIKE sequential shifter modes. If I'm the passenger, I can look ahead and shift at the points that are the most efficient. If I'm driving, it makes me feel like I'm driving a sequential race transmission.
The intros just keep getting better 😂
You guys make best intros in car reviews on the planet
I was at a dodge dealership a few days ago. Now I’m getting all these hornet reviews showing up in my playlist. Definitely under surveillance 😅
The term "backhanded compliment" comes to mind. I love you guys, and I know that this is a tough car to get excited about. I appreciate that you kept everything in perspective.
I agree, 30K makes sense for this car. Maybe some maniac 20-something year old tuners will milk these things into an enthusiast car.
It’s a fun different SUV, but ya small SUVs are hard to get excited about now. This is one I genuinely want to check out tho.
This kinda reminds me of the one amg crossover that Mercedes’ made forgot the name wasn’t it the gla 45 amg? Where it was to small to be a true crossover but to heavy to be a hatchback nobody liked it and the thing is super cheap to buy now maybe this ends up like that where it’s in a purgatory of to sporty for the normies and to heavy and normie for the enthusiasts
They should discontinue it and save us all the headache.
Give it 6 months to a year after they hit the streets and you'll see them challenging Corvette, Mustangs and other more popular "tuned" street cars.
You guys never fail to deliver!!! 🤣🤣 3 minutes and 2 seconds in. That face is priceless and creepy 🤣
The Hornet looks great
Been watching for a long time and I laugh EVERY TIME at James knocking his head on the lambo in the intro 😂😂 Love y’all
*Bimmer
Fixed it for ya
Great review as always guys but I still HATE Dodge for killing the potential Alfa sales by doing this version. As a recent new Alfa owner and now fan/supporter of the brand, they don't deserve the rep they currently have anymore in my opinion. Sadly the Tonale is going to be too close in price to the Stelvio which will also hurt it's sales unless people just want the smaller size with the mild hybrid.
You're right, nobody but Alfa should be the one to kill potential Alfa sales, because they're the best at it after all ;)
Agreed. Alfa needed an entry level model. And the Hornet took that away.
The reality is the vast majority of consumers will never know that the Hornet and Alfa are the same car. The general public is pretty clueless about these things, and have no idea what Stellantis is.
Alfa dealers in my area are basically running a BOGO sale on left over 22’s.
@@The_Stanmanexactly. Same as with other brands. The average person doesn’t know A4/Jetta, Civic /Now Integra, etc are basically the same car. Every other brand does it and they sell.
Biggest problem is Alfa doesn’t market for shi*! They also don’t have a line up to compare with the big dogs…and they’ve only been back for a few years so they have a huge disadvantage.
Before buying, check the Recall, it is a very good car but it already has two recalls: 1) the battery cable shorts and the car stops moving 2) the forward collision sensors turn on when the car has not collided
The reliability probably sucks, but dang this is a good value proposition
Look at the Jeeps with the 2.0L Turbo. It's the same engine. The concerns are likely way overblown.
Probably? :)
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Considering what's offered for vehicles these days, no concern is overblown. These two guys certainly did nothing to allay my fears.
Yep. TFL did a 4WD review and the hornet Christmas treed the dash. Dodge is crap
A decent car to buy then toss as soon as the warranty's done. Perhaps something worth getting an extended 100k coverage for
Gotta put this up against a Kona N and drag race them!
No need to. 0-60 in 6 and a half seconds is slow compared to the N
Yeah I get 4.7 to 60 in my Kona
Lol the N would embarrass this car
Even the next model up in performance of these things is gonna get destroyed be a Kona N lol.
The new Official Car of BRAMPTON!! Buddy Buddy lets do this!
As a watch enthusiast, it’s cool to see a Sinn on Thomas’ wrist.
He's also worn a Yema Superman Maxi in prior videos, of course he's been wearing his speedmaster a lot lately.
Thomas has good taste
I think it's a nice little car with some legitimate potential in the upper models. Make it look a bit more aggressive in the R/T and above models and it should be a solidly good looking car for what it is. Also, James dropping a Benedict Arnold reference got me good
Has anyone noticed that Harrison (the sound guy); his height keeps changing. I've heard them say he's 6'7", 6'6", and now 6'5".
I just remember how this car went into limp mode with all the dash lights on after TFL did the slip test with this car, on paper it sounds like a great car but in practice it's not off to a good start 😬
Its a dud.👎💩🤡
Should make for a great rental car.
Instead of a garbo Journey?
- for sure lol
My brother is a big dodge guy (even a main tech at a dealership) and he’s gotten to drive a few. They are nice day to day cars, but definitely not performance machines from the factory. Really hoping there’s a lot of aftermarket support for these because they are beautiful vehicles
what you want more than aftermakret support is forged internals
@@bobbythomas6520no speaki engrish my niqqa??
wtf are you saying??
I think I saw a RacerX video where some famous "tuner" got a hold of one of these and made a decent small drag strip car So I think the possibility is there to turn one of these into a nice "hot street car" if you have the money.
@@douglassalley9117 with enough money you can make any car fun haha I have a 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart to I built the engine up with using forged internals and everything so I could slap a big ole HX35 on it and it’s a blast 😂 the hornet is AWD though so I could see it being pretty awesome if someone built one right haha
I totally agree....the point I was trying to make, it seems like these new engines will be "tune able" . The PSI was changed and a few other things and they had a 600+ horse power small "SUV". Se use to call them "sleepers". @@jellyfish1433
the worst part of this video is that it ends
Yes I wanted a proper road test.
I recon
No Dodge is the worst part.
@@ILOVEBACONBOY2018 the only time when dodge was the worse is when they made the challenger electric
@@ILOVEBACONBOY2018 why be a hater?
I'm sure this will go as well as the dart.
This exists do save Stellantis money. The HEMI’s were costing them billions in fines due to the emissions it puts out.
This will sell way better than the dart
Track pack on a SUV is great. No wait - its more ridiculous than wearing a tupe.
I want to like this KA a lot but it’s such a time bomb.
Is it? Do we actually know the reliability of the new motors?
Alfa Romeo and Dodge have garbage reliability. Anyone that buys their cars knowing that is a dummy.
@TheRealCatof The Hurricane-4 isn't really a that new. It's a corporate engine that's been used in the Wrangler and Cherokee for years now. So there’s been some years to monitor its long term reliability. Dodge is just trying to market this motor as being extremely new/fresh
@TheRealCatof I only said the motor itself is not as new as Dodge and all these reviewers are trying to make it seem. Nothing about whether it’s reliable or not. Learn to read
@The Real Cat of 2020 good to know reliability is based on feelings and but facts🤷♂️
When I saw the intro, I Instantly knew it's gonna be a good video
im a dodge tech. im driving the electrified trim right now. it fills the tourque in amazingly. i have a cammed c5 corvette snd the tourque i felt was very similar. really feel in in your stomach but this was only in 1-3 gears. it drops off after that
1: Discontinue Dodge Charger and Challenger that could be had with a V8 for low 30s even just a few years ago. 2: Make cornball badge replaced 4 cylinder SUV with Italian reliability. 3: Charge more than what a V8 muscle car used to cost pre-Covid.
4. Thank Washington DC for both the inflation of price and the introduction of this vehicle.
@@eldiablort1461 Yessir, they really like to terminate all fun. Enjoy your bug juice.
First year model and a mix of all the low reliability based vehicle manufacturers... I've stated in other videos about the Hornet that if Dodge (Stellantis) can bring the dependability up to the level of at least the outgoing models of the Charger/Challenger within the first two model years, I think they will be able to gather up some market share.
People like me will be watching them closely for recalls and dependability issues... especially major ones like the Dart had. Their non-V8 engines have not had the best track record over the history of the company. I want to see them succeed. We can always use another successful auto manufacturer, because it makes everyone else step up their game.
They have some great ideas for this initial entry vehicle, executing those with a high level of quality and dependability is going to be key.
It’s a shame dodge makes the best looking domestic cars, because buying one is a guaranteed miserable future
Didn't know about these, and after considered many others, ended up going with a Mazda CX-30 Turbo. By the way, I ran across a common complaint about how wireless chargers make cellphones get seriously hot. Just something to keep in mind.
Cx-30 turbo owner here too...best car I've ever owned.
Damn, hope you guys are leasing these reliability nightmares so you wont have to deal with them when they get a little older
@@german80 umm...the Mazda or the dodge?
@@Boise_guy123 both
Seems a lot like the Kona N. Even has its own version of NGS.
Except the Kona N is a full 1.5 seconds faster to 60, handles way better, and actually sounds good. The marketing for this car was all over the place when I was shopping for my N, and I looked at the Hornet as a comparison for about 2 minutes before laughing at the performance specs and closing the tab.
@@thewardenduncanhaha this was my same reaction as well
@thewardenduncan9496 Agreed. Like the Kona N 10 x better. I also just purchased a 2023 Elantra N, which so far has been awesome. I have been going back in forth between Veloster N, Kona N, Kia Stinger GT2, and the Elantra N.
@@godzilla7391 I probably would have gone Elantra N if they had one anywhere in my state when I was buying. Also might have gone Veloster N if the interior wasn't so much worse than the other two, lol. But as it stands, I came from a 2014 WRX, and I definitely prefer the Kona N to that, even with the lack of AWD.
I bought a GT in August 2023 and love it so far
Never stop having fun with the intros
I feel like I say this with each intro, but this is the best intro of all time 😂
Sat in one at local auto show (jeep country) very narrow, I'm not obese but I don't skip leg day either so fitting in there wasn't comfy for the minimal time in the seat, definitely for snow birds and squeaks
Watching this made me glad I bought a CX-5. Best car in the class.
*objectively arguable
@@wolfshanze5980 very, nothing nice about the interior of a Mazda.
I'm really curious to see how reliable these things end up being because it's basically a combination of the least reliable major brands. I think the Hornet looks better than the Alfa though.
Modern Alfas are not having reliability issues any more so than Audi, BMW or Merc.
@@flacjacket Not even recent 2000+ Alfas are unreliable. These guys love to propagate dumb sterotypes
@@flacjacket I understand the mainstream volume 2.0 turbo Alfa models are mostly fine, but the V6 models are nightmares for a lot of owners. Which mostly backs up what you're saying overall, because they're not selling many V6s compared to 2.0Ts; most of what they sell is offering competitive reliability. That's all with the longitudinal RWD cars though, time will tell how this FWD platform does.
Dodge is currently ranked high in reliability. You are thinking of Jeep
@@belloviper Dodge brands are sort of a mix, but it's only recently that JEEP climbed up from the bottom of the list, but you ARE right, in recent years, they have been improving.
So should I get this, or a Tonale?
If black is 8 ball, and white is cue ball, they missed the opportunity to make blue blue ball. I rest my case 😂
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I could see the aftermarket for this car explode in the short future, so long as its able to be tuned. There is so much potential here.
You’re joking
Folks saying cars dont last clearly dont know how to take care of a car! I got a 2014 300 that i've had for 9 yrs. Still in excellent condition
I’d take the Kona N over this. At least that has 100k mile powertrain warranty.
Ugly
... And significantly better performance.
@@apexcobra.official Korean junk
There is plenty of “reliability” talk for this dodge based on previous models and comparison to Mazda but the 2.3 Turbo from Mazda had plenty of issues with Turbo failure , timing chain issues as well as SV-T problems.
Secondly , I never heard these types of reliability concerns when testing Kia/Hyundai/Genesis when they consistently have fire related problems.
Kia/Hyundai have a particular V6 that is notorious for failure and they rarely even question in anymore. Then they'll slap another 100k mile warranty on the new engine rather than re-engineer it.
I've known two people who have had this engine fail and be replaced: one being my girlfriend, another being a coworker... just a few months ago LOL!
the 2.3 Turbo was sourced from Ford, Mazda uses a 2.5 now which looks to be Toyota level reliable. With regards to the Kia/Hyundai/Genesis their theta 2 engines are notorious for bombing themselves.
@@Jackinacox You've got it backwards. The Mazda L-series engines were shared with Ford, but they were a Mazda design. Mazda stopped developing the LF in 2010 when they switched to the trouble-prone Skyactive-G engines. Ford continued on developing the series for much longer.
It was part of a cost sharing arrangement. In exchange for the use of the L-series engines, Mazda used Ford Duratec V6 engines.
That 2.3 was over a decade ago. That's hardly a comparison. Dodge had been shite for 40 years
@SirOsisofLiver the skyactiv engines have been rock solid reliable. Only the first 2 years they had some carbon related issues like most DI engines at the time. Other than that, they have been Toyota reliable.
My Mazda CX-30 with the basic engine (191HP, 186lb-ft) has been clocked to 60 in 7.3 seconds. I was smart enough to buy the basic S (added dealer leather) just over 3000 lbs. The turbo CX-30 weighs in at over 3500 lbs. so you lose a good amount of your acceleration to weight. I posted this to say the breaks are good, and the handling excellent, and it's made in Japan not Italy where turbo charging is required for performance.
Definitely getting DART 2.0 vibes from this thing. I wouldn't expect this vehicle to be around long.
Way faster speed saves this car
@@definitionXrp I'm talking reliability issues.
we want a drag race with cars in this category ;) keep up the jam up work boys!!
Great review,... I'm also liking the Hornet quite a bit... They need to do an SRT version, maybe the hybrid with the 2.0, or an SRT with the 3L Hurricane turbo straight 6.
No...dont suggest disrespecting SRT by putting it on this italian trash
While I was never the biggest Dodge fan... quite surprised by this one!
It should get a rally pack with flaps behind the wheels, smaller rims and all terrain tires. :D
It's got a nice simple but sporty body design.
I am also a big Dodge fan. But tbh i still miss the old Dodge models like 1996 Viper GTS and 1999 Concept Car.
Didn't know this car existed until I saw this video! I appreciate the styling, it's funky but stylish, I tend to go for stuff like that. I'm really sus on Dodge reliability tho, though I guess this engine is one of their better ones...how's the transmission? I thought the Dart was great when it launched a decade ago but now you don't see them because they didn't last similar to the Caliber before that and the Neon before that. Until proven otherwise, that's what I'm gonna expect from this Hornet.
9 speed very reliable now. It's been around for over a decade.
I love it how they explain every detail on the cars.
I have to admit that for the price, this honestly is a car
The front end gives me modern eagle talon vibes. I love the idea of this sweet little crossover. Why'd it have to be a dodge?
It’s not - its an Alfa w Dodge badging like 85+% :). They’re both made in Italy - it’s NOT a Dodge
its not....its Alpha Romeo and its trash. looks like a baby shoe
I am Old, Stodgy, & and Conservative. The mature design & build of my Dodge Mini Van served me well. Darn seats weighted a TON though (year before fold-ins). Hopefully my Third Generation, Kia Forte (non-turbo) will serve me well also. I would enjoy fancier, I just don't have the time or money to fritter away anymore.
Ive had mine for just over a month and other then software issues. :( It works pretty good, it does have a little kick to it when the turbo kicks in, but the continuous warning lights coming on are getting to be a little too much. I know all the ones sold in my city all have software issues.
You actually like that garage ass Italian car? Be honest.
I just got mine recently. Do you mean the warning lights just come on and when you get it checked nothing is actually wrong?
I like it. Standard AWD and a lifted stance will sell well in snow States.
Typical necessities for the U.S car buyer, and Canada. Everybody wants SUVs- oh so useful but rarely ever practical for ppl that just drive around town.
@@cyanprince00Rarely ever practical? 🤡
I have one as a service loaner right now, the weakest points are the seats, feel of the steering wheel, laggy reverse camera, and my personal fave the door locks lag to unlock the car. The handling is good but its so uncomfortable on the inside I hate driving it.
if they made an actual hot hatch version of this that would be fire
That's coming...the GLH and GLH-S are not released yet, just the GT and Quasi-RT are out now...
I(german) see the Alfa romeo tonale(same car basicly) pretty often and I gotta say the dodge looks even better.❤
It’s the first Dodge that I’ve considered in quite a while.
@@JordanC717 I mean it is a rather compact vehicle so if you dont want a land yacht,it is definitly a nice vehicle
The Alfa is too complicated in the front
The Dodge supercharger 426 hybrid plug in fuel and electric. SRT demon ghoul. Sounds like a raptor.😊
Finally you guys reviewed another Alfa Romeo
The powershot comment from James was 10/10
Tonale is a "Toenail" and Stelvio just sounds like some kind of cologne.
“Ima bee drilling you later” legendary line
I love when automakers make special badges for their vehicles. Toyota does that a lot and it’s one of the reasons why i like them. Too bad that it’s usually reserved for their domestic market. Like the Venza, which is called a Harrier everywhere else in the world, used to have a harrier badge, but the current generation don’t get them anymore, even on Harrier named models.
Great a hybrid! I hope Hornet Spray works on them, too. Saw a swarm at the Dodge dealership & I didn't know Lunchly made a car.
I agree. Practical, reliable, and luxurious are not words used to describe this latest product from Dodge
I owned a Dodge Shelby GLH Omni, a blast to drive. One complaint from the automotive press was its lack of 4/all wheel drive. I hope Dodge reviews it’s history 😉!!
The fact they'd revive the GLH name just to put it on an Alfa Tonale Crossover is insulting.
That intro was epic! And, the powershot feature... OMFG
I thought you would have at least mentioned the similarities to the Kona N, being a FWD performance cross-over, roughly the same horsepower, adaptive suspension, and "go fast button"
It's AWD.
The kona N is another ball game tho
@@R4M_Tommy oops you're right