i have 2500€ budget, it does make sense have this kit (1) or this (2)? (1) Sony A7ii + Mc-11 + Tamron 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8 ? (2) Sony A7Rii + Mc-11 + Sigma 12-24 f4.5-5.6 + old Sigma EX 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8
@@Selva-jj5ix It really depends on what type's of photography you plan on doing with the gear and neither Jared or myself can give advice without knowing that! However I would go with the first 1. option you mentioned! Tamron G2 lenses are really good lenses and the old Sigma lenses suck completely. I am a firm believer in buying good lenses over a better camera anyway. Not to say that the A7 II is bad in anyway, but in general better glass is the way to go every time. People forget how important lenses are and they instead update or upgrade their camera. Buy the better lenses!
i m nikon shooter like Jared ,but for start up he should pick up Canon T7i is better and Canon have cheaper Glass ruclips.net/video/de-7XZCwT0o/видео.html
In other countries beginner photographers are shooting weddings with 500 dollar worth of gear, flash included. They are not great but mostly not terrible.
Any reason why you didn't go for D7000/D7100/D7200 instead? I would imagine that's a better body choice for a crop sensor. It would probably be a bit more pricey but am sure could still grab 2 lenses and stay under $1k.
Ron Star all the lenses work ok FF Nikon even if they are DX, the 50mm will retan the FF field of view cause its a FF lens, DX lenses will auto crop when working on FF Body, of course you can turn of auto crop and you will end up with a vignette around your picture in FF Body, but some lenses work just fine on FX bodies even if they’re Crop(DX).
@@ronstar7027 Yes the 50mm is a FX lens that gives you about 75mm on DX Body. The other lenses (should) also work on FX body, the camera will usually adjust the frame for you.
@@ronstar7027 Nikon full-frame cameras will automatically crop to APS-C if one attaches a DX lens (though this can be turned off), The 50 mm lens in the video is a full frame lens.
If y'all prefer canon this is the close counterpart: Canon EOS 800D Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 efs mount Canon 50mm f1.8 STM (yongnuo 50mm for a cheaper alternative) Tamron 70-300mm f4-5.6
That is exactly what is in my bag before picking up a Tokina 24-70 valued at $900 for $499. Bag No 2 is a Panasonic G9 4/3rd's bag. Have enjoyed the Sigma, wonderful pics!
This was my exact kit minus the tamron. Absolutely loved the 800D sigma 17-50 combo and got me some awesome images. Moved onto a Sony a7iii now but I really pushed the hell out of that cheap kit.
@@sumo1250 Buying from people with a lot of good reviews and / or paying with paypal to get customer protection has given me the confidence and so far everything has worked perfectly
Jared, you're one heck of a heart-warming character man. Giving back to Allen hardcore is a nice thing to do. I love their website. Henry's Canada should take a lesson! Heck, even The Camera Store! Lol. Good job dude for bringing awareness to Allen's. You've done a great service to the community and to the store so keep up the good work.
Sony a6000 $349.00 Used Sony 50mm 1.8 crop = 75mm $198.00 New Sigma 30mm crop = 45mm $289.00 New Sony 55mm - 210mm 4.5 - 6.3 $126 Used Total $962 All found on line at KEH There is no camera store near where I live. I have to buy all my stuff online
I feel the Sony will give a beginner way more bang for the buck then the Nikon, better auto focus, more frames a second, newer tech, more focus points, or so I feel.
Nothing wider than 45mm Full frame equivalent, good luck shooting landscape/architecture/street? Hardly suitable for travel shots, which is what the average person uses a dedicated camera for.
You can get both the A6000 and 16-50 for $349 if you shop around. Do keep in mind that Keh and any camera store will always be overpriced compared to buying directly from a seller. Just check everything carefully in real life.
I got my d5600 + the kit lens 18-140 VR for only 650€, all NEW. Then I got my bag and tripod + one ND 10 stops filter + extension tubes, all that went to approx 900€. You may ask why the camera kit new? Because here in Spain new its about 1.2k € and used around 600-800€ so I got really lucky to find a store from Germany that was offering that camera kit for literally half the price even lower than a used one from Spain (LOL).
Love that where most creatives shy away from telling newbies what lenses they will need you’ve gone and put this together as an awesome starter kit and shown what can be done on a budget. Fantastic video.
Based on his "portrait" comment. 50mm on the apc feels more like a 85mm. Which works. If general purpose photography. I'd agree. 35mm would be preferred
I have the 35mm and not sure about it. If you want a lot of bokeh then you typically want to isolate the subject from the background, in which case the 35mm is quite tight to fill most of the frame for most subjects, I find. I think getting a really solid versatile wide-mid lens, like the sigma in this video, along with a fast 50mm (or more) could be a better option. I would have been tempted to drop the 50mm and spend a lot more on a telephoto lens that you wouldn't want to replace too soon.
I have a 35mm f1.4 and it takes amazing photos on FF. It is great for a 2 person portrait, and a whole lot more. (not that it would fit in this budget, but whatever)
Where was this video 10 years ago? Great information! I would get about the same. I might have looked for an ultra wide angle lens for star trails. But the 17-50 would work too.
Call me sentimental but great to see you at Allen's Camera again. we know he meant a lot to you and almost expecting him to appear again in the background :-)
For a starter video kit, I would recommend a used lumix g7, (I sold mine for 300, my friend sold his for 350) New we spent around 450 on sale. I would go with a panasonic 25mm 1.7 ($150 new) And a 12mm 2.8 rokinon manual (I spent $212 new) A rode video micro ($50) And total that is 350+150+212= 712 then you have a little less than 300 to spend on a nice tripod, maybe some for of shoulder rig, etc.
Really enjoy when you teach for beginners and folks on a budget. I know with such a large audience you have to try to interest everyone, but these are my favorites.
@@chromaticvisuelle yea I sold my Sony A7iii and my Sony 70-2002.8 gmaster and just went back to DSLR don't get me wrong the Sony is amazing as hell. But I can't justify the huge cost to picture quility difference. Might go back to Sony if sigma or Tamron e we puts out a 70-200 or super zoom
I’ve been thinking about what gear to get when I finally upgrade to full frame (currently have a 80d, 10-18mm, 24mm, 50mm and the 18-135mm), and it is pretty much the same set up you gave, but of course the more pro stuff, dream set up: eos R, RF lenses: 15-35 f2.8, 50 f1.2 and 70-200 f2.8. It has all you need right there.
When I started out back in 2008, my first DSLR was a Nikon D40 with the kit lens. I got some amazing photos with that camera. Then I upgraded to a D300 for a period of time. Then I got a D3200 just so I could do some video. Now I have a D600 with the Tamron 28-75 & 70-200 f2.8, & the 18-400 & 150-600, along with the 50 f1.8. One thing I would highly recommend starting out, when buying glass to buy full frame lenses, cause you know you are going to want to upgrade to a full frame camera at some point.
I agree to buy used full frame lenses for my crop camera (D7100) just because of the quality...i only disagree that going to full frame is automatically an upgrade..depends on what kind of photography you shoot..my upgrade will be the D500..everyone's shooting style and needs are different
D700 would blow that piece of junk D5600 out the water the D700 is probably the best camera Nikon ever made, and there are D series lenses that are super cheap that are far better than anything in the video, but I hear what Jared said about he only had Allen's stock there, but for me look around and get the best deals, then trade your gear up for better stuff it's what I've always done.
I have both the 50mm f1.8 G and the 35mm f1.8 DX G on a D5300 and would say that I prefer to use the 35mm as it is sharper and focuses better than the 50mm. Regarding the 18-55 kit lens the latest version of it has something most Nikon DX lenses don't have and that is silent focus, if you start shooting video with any other nikon lens with a shotgun mic on the camera you will hear the lens focusing (that's the only thing I would suggest an 18-55 kit lens)
Hey, I saw you there that day! Allen's has been my go-to location for camera equipment for the past 5 years or so. I've spent probably close to $6K in cameras and lenses there, and I'm going to be dropping another $2K on the Sony 200-600mm G zoom lens.
Charles, Allen's has been my camera store for decades. They are the best, new or used. I can't even tell you how much I have spent there on pro gear. Got my Sony 200-600mm from them and I am waiting on the A7RIV to arrive. Cheers.
This type of review makes much more sense than all the new kit reviews, I have pretty much bought all my kit second hand, although I do find the reviews of new kit interesting I just don’t have the cash to keep constantly upgrading, and they can leave you feeling that what you currently have is way inferior to the latest model of camera that is being reviewed, the new model being a must have as compared to the previous as it is seemingly implied!
I would have got a d700, 35 1.8g dx, 50 1.8d, 85 1.8g. This is basically the kit i have, got it for around 800$. I also have a d5300, an 18-55, 70-300 and a flash.
I absolutely love your videos, but a couple of questions: I have the 50mm 1.8 for my D750, but I also have the 35mm 1.8 for my light travel kit (D5600). Curious why you recommended the 50mm 1.8 fx lens instead of the 35mm 1.8 dx (assuming that a used 35mm dx would be cheaper than the used 50mm fx.) Other than a close 75mm equivalent focal length to the 85mm that many photographers use for portraits, are there other advantages to the 50mm fx on a crop sensor over the 35mm dx?
I started out with a loaned camera from my sister in law. It was a Canon 60d with an 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens. Then moved on to the sigma 18-35mm f1.8 art a year later. My biggest splurge at the time. Used that combo for a good 2 years before moving on to a Canon 5d mark iii + 24-105 f4. I think you making these videos are great. It's a great introduction to newbies or enthusiasts. If only I had seen videos like these 5 or 6 years ago, I could've saved a little more money along the way for other gear.
Nice informative video. I think it would be cool if you brought in an amateur with you and explained your reasoning to them at the same time and then gave it to them as a gift! Keep up the good work!
I love this video. It would have been nice to have seen this when I got started. Because of you, Jared, I went to Allen's to get my D500. I really enjoy my camera and Brandon helped a bunch. Keep up the good work. Thanks for this video.
Did you used gear have a warranty? Two of my cousin's were in the price market you were looking at one got a superzoom to take on summer exchange program with lost of side trips, the other one got a sony A7II with kit lens and a bunch of bundled accessories (kits was about 1k on Blakc friday sale last year, to take pictures of her baby.
I think I came out better with the a7II & Kit Lens new for $998 with free camera bag , 32GB SD card & Cleaning kit , no tax or shipping & handling at Adorama
Nice approach for someone interested in photography. I assume the D5600 comes with at least one battery and charger. Probably not a lot of $, but how much more for a spare battery for this camera and I don't think used batteries would be as efficient as new ones?
Sony a7II (550 used good condition), minolta 35-70 f3,5 (60+10 adapter), olympus 100 f2.8 (150+ 10 adapter) minolta 200 f4 (50, already have the adapter) canon 24 f2.8 (90+ 10). Get the cheapest sd card and try to get a tripod. Much more fun if you want an hobby. 😁
Hmm, good vintage lenses are expensive, too. I know, because I have several of the cheap ones :D. Mostly M42 lenses. Such es Soviet Tair 11a (135/2.8), Helios 44-2 (58/2)(but I love them for their swirly bokeh) and Tair 3PHS (300mm 4,5), or east German 50/2.8 Tessar, Pentacon 135/2.8 (the rebranded Meyer Görlitz Version), Pentacon 50/1.8... But also the 135/3.5 Schneider-Kreuznach Tele Xenar isn't that good. In comparison to the cheap 70-300 Canon EF I got new around 100€ the difference in the optical quality isn't that far away. The build quality is much better of the vintage lenses. The lack of autofocus is not a big deal, but automatic aperture would be nice... Also for the exif data in the end. At the other end I got some Leica R lenses. mechanically they are top end. But optically, in the last 50 years huge advantages werde done. Especially in coating. A Leica 50/1.4 (first version) is by far not as good as a Sigma art lens. Those lenses were never designed for today's photography purposes. So against the light without flaring, nice Bokeh and crisper clear wide open. This are all modern things that were getting important after digital cameras replaced analog cameras. Before, shooting wide open was not that common and just for improving low light quality. Similar as today, when the iso is raised to an insane level, the images getting worse, but it is better to have a little less quality image instead of no image. For this reason, old lenses are a bit soft wide open, because they are optimized for f5,6-8. Film was expensive and there was always a delay between shooting and development. And the focus was pulled manually. This, a narrow focus field was not appreciated, the aperture was closed, thus it make sense why those lenses are optimized closed down. However, Sometimes the look and feel of old lenses is unique. They are inferiour to the latest designs, but more individual. It is not that they automatically create a vintage look like scratches and sepia colours, but much less contrasty pictures with slightly different color rendering (due to the old coatings), and a not optimized but creative bokeh.
It is cool seeing you back in the place where you did a lot of unboxing and review videos back in the day, it was refresing and fits the theme of this video. Great video Jared!.
I would have taken Sony a6x00, used 300-600e and then go full manual with old school lenses or superwide + one zoom lens. But that store didnt have Sonys, it seems
@@bassangler73 The focus of the video may be about starting out with an interchangeable lens camera, which can be educational and fun. If you are new to photography and want a really good camera without the complication the premium compacts are a great option. I personally carry the compacts far more often than the larger body cameras for which I own a number of.
How is the used mech. at Allen's? Thinking about buying a used 7d to shoot some high school sports. Like most my funds are always in flux.... The quality is good?
budget and cheap is not the same thing, "budget" is just setting a max price for your gears, even at $5K it's still a budget if you don't fancy spending over that
good question. anyway buying dslr in 2019 isn't best descision. particularly for beginner. you will stuck in old technology. it's better to go with new era from beginning
Hey Fro, Full Frame lenses lose or dosen't lose sharpness on APS-C bodies? Everyone have a different opinion on internet, but on you a can trust. I have recently buy a 80D and now want to spend some money on good glass. But what lenses gonna produce sharpen image on my 80D 16-35 L f4 or a Sigma 18-35 1.8 Art on F4? I don't care about the aperture.
How much was the 85mm because I'd have gone with that. I had the 17-50 2.8 on my Nikon d5200 body. Was a great lens. But because I had 50mm already I boiggt the 85mm 1.8
I got excited when you grabbed the 55-300 I started with a d7x with the kit 18-55, 35 1.8 and the 55-300! It was an awesome setup for a couple years that I had less then $600 in. It was an awesome combo of lenses until I could justify the upgrade to the 70-200 and gold primes.
I just got a canon eos2000d refurbished kit of Amazon I'm loving it been at it for 3weeks but what are your thoughts and is it the exact same as the rebel t7? I'm starting to out grow the 18-55mm kit lens and the filters the kit had I am trying to get a 75-300mm and nifty 50mm but are they really all the hype?
no, I never ever worry about stuff like that. It's a 2.8 lens, it gathers 2.8 worth of light. Do you think I beginner needs to worry about something like that vs simply going out and shooting. This is the problem online today. Someone makes a video about a crop sensor and how the lens isn't really a 2.8 so on so forth, it's confusing. It's already confusing enough to hear crop factory x1.5
The D5600 is a great choice! I have a D5300 I bought new, which now has 195,384 on the Shutter Count, still works _flawlessly_. It's now enjoying semi-retirement as a backup to my Pentax K-1. (I need a camera with a high Shutter Count rating - I'm shooting 50k-70k photos/year, self-employed.) Love the lens choices you made!! Great video!
Hey! Jared I am from Nepal. I have been watching your videos from 3 months ago. I was thinking of buying a dslr for the first time. And this has become a fantastic answer for me. Thanks a lot sir. You have given me a answer.
Going out to do this next weekend! My refurbished D7500 for $599 is coming in the mail tomorrow and I'm ready to upgrade my glass! Been shooting kit on a D3200 for the past 6+ years (since I was a kid who's parents got them a camera just like you said) and I am so excited to get started
I'm glad that you mentioned the D3400 is a great starter camera for amateurs. I just started photography this year and wasn't sure if I'd like it. I got a D3400 with 2 lenses for $300 and now I'm hooked on landscape/astrophotography
What a great video Jared :D Almost everyone else on YT just pushes new, expensive, and just too much gear for starters. I'm a pro now, but would have loved this back in the day to help build stuff out. Now, it's Still fun to watch just to compare what You'd pick compared to what I'd pick. Totally solid kit you put together and a hell of a lot of fun to watch!
This was an awesome idea for a video, Jared. Loved it! I think in this day and age it's refreshing to see a traditional camera shop vs online stores being used to solve a budget limitation. They're not all out to pasture yet. Would love to see more videos like this!
Seems like a great starter kit. I started off with a new D60 w/ kit lens 18-55 and 55-200. Upgraded years later to the 35 prime and a hot shoe. Still have that original kit as backup, great setup but i love my new D7200 I bought last year on sale. About to buy a Nikon Vertical Grip to try that out next. Each addition added fun, enhancement, and excitement to photography. Great kit, used is great, local is awesome, and of course glass, glass, glass ;) (And i shoot RAW on both my camera bodies)
Great video. Solid advice for the newcomer! Thanks for keeping it real. Not everyone can afford to start with the latest 3$k camera. This is what I wish someone told me when I started. Well done!
Be sure to check out allenscamera.com and let them know the FRO SENT YOU.
I would have bought a D7100 and a 50mm 1.8G and a 24-105mm F4 VR! Done!
i have 2500€ budget, it does make sense have this kit (1) or this (2)?
(1) Sony A7ii + Mc-11 + Tamron 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8 ?
(2) Sony A7Rii + Mc-11 + Sigma 12-24 f4.5-5.6 + old Sigma EX 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8
@@Selva-jj5ix It really depends on what
type's of photography you plan on doing with the gear and neither Jared or myself can give advice without knowing that! However I would go with the first 1. option you mentioned! Tamron G2 lenses are really good lenses and the old Sigma lenses suck completely. I am a firm believer in buying good lenses over a better camera anyway. Not to say that the A7 II is bad in anyway, but in general better glass is the way to go every time. People forget how important lenses are and they instead update or upgrade their camera. Buy the better lenses!
i m nikon shooter like Jared ,but for start up he should pick up Canon T7i is better and Canon have cheaper Glass ruclips.net/video/de-7XZCwT0o/видео.html
Thanks for the vid Jared...I should have upped my budget when I talked to you last week. Just curious about which Canon body you were looking for?
Now you should do a 5 minute portrait video with the kit you picked out. Then rinse and repeat for 2 and 3k
In other countries beginner photographers are shooting weddings with 500 dollar worth of gear, flash included. They are not great but mostly not terrible.
@@dzsemx how much they charge I saw a photographer he in Vegas shooting with a Nikon D3300.
he just showed us, in real he has some professional gears, why would he waste his 1000$ just for making video? I don';t think so
@@fash2314 He spent $0.
@@bradleyrex2968 I know bro. after the video he gave back everything and take 1000 from shopkeeper for promoting his shop lol :-D haha
Just don't tell my wife that it's possible to have a good kit for under $1000
it’s good when your the only one in the family that understands photography no one to talk you out of purchases 😂
I told your wife😝😝😝
Mandilon
"This a7iv is great for 600$ isn't it honey?" *Hides the receipt"
Yeah mine would kill me after spending $6000 in first year lol
Keep in mind, I had to pick from what they had used in stock.
I have the HSM version of the Sigma 17-50 f2.8 and it's a killer lens. I use it for everything but mainly, event photography. Great choice Jared! 😃👍🤗
Do a dream list most expensive gear no limit 3 lens and body. Including Hassie and digital back. Im betting high side of 140 grand.
Hey if I'm getting a used d7100 from b&h for $400 is it a good deal should I purchase
Any reason why you didn't go for D7000/D7100/D7200 instead? I would imagine that's a better body choice for a crop sensor. It would probably be a bit more pricey but am sure could still grab 2 lenses and stay under $1k.
What about the Tripod buddy? I guess it's important too
Random internet user: "What lenses do I need?"
Photographers: "Depends on what you shoot"
Jared: "These ones here. These are the ones you want"
You're getting all the ranges here so if you're starting it'll help you decide what you like to shoot and how .
it's a beginner kit. For people who shoot a little bit of everything. If you shoot specific things, chances are that you are not a beginner anymore.
Ron Star all the lenses work ok FF Nikon even if they are DX, the 50mm will retan the FF field of view cause its a FF lens, DX lenses will auto crop when working on FF Body, of course you can turn of auto crop and you will end up with a vignette around your picture in FF Body, but some lenses work just fine on FX bodies even if they’re Crop(DX).
@@ronstar7027 Yes the 50mm is a FX lens that gives you about 75mm on DX Body. The other lenses (should) also work on FX body, the camera will usually adjust the frame for you.
@@ronstar7027 Nikon full-frame cameras will automatically crop to APS-C if one attaches a DX lens (though this can be turned off), The 50 mm lens in the video is a full frame lens.
If y'all prefer canon this is the close counterpart:
Canon EOS 800D
Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 efs mount
Canon 50mm f1.8 STM (yongnuo 50mm for a cheaper alternative)
Tamron 70-300mm f4-5.6
That is exactly what is in my bag before picking up a Tokina 24-70 valued at $900 for $499. Bag No 2 is a Panasonic G9 4/3rd's bag. Have enjoyed the Sigma, wonderful pics!
I'd buy an old canon 5D, a 50mm 1.8 and a 200mm 2.8L....
This was my exact kit minus the tamron. Absolutely loved the 800D sigma 17-50 combo and got me some awesome images. Moved onto a Sony a7iii now but I really pushed the hell out of that cheap kit.
Way better setup than his crappy setup
i agree 100 %
Great vid. You should do another at $2000-$3000 range. That would be amazing.
Depends on what you shoot, but let's say an A7II and two f4 constant zooms like a 70-200 and a 24-70. OR an APS-C sensor and two f2.8 zooms :)
I'd say the Nikon Z6 if you already have Nikkor lenses, and/or an older Nikon body. Then get the Z f2.8 24-70 S, and you should still be under $3,000.
@@GreenTekHaus that Z f2.8 24-70 is like 3400 new here in Australia (AUD). I did just get the Z6 for just under 2400 tax-in, AUD, brand new ;)
I'd say go with a used D750, 24-70 f/2.8 without vr, a 50mm prime and a 70-300 f4.5-5.6, should be around 3000 dollars
D610 $600, use rest for $2,400 lenses and $800 70-200 f4 2.8f, 50 1.8
A72 $500
$1000 D750, 6DMark2
Buying used is the best hack, all my gear comes from eBay auctions, makes full frame accessible for a poor uni student 😂
Same here, i love my canon 5d mk2 i got from eBay
Same here.
I've always been hesitant in case there's a defect, any tips?
@@sumo1250 Buying from people with a lot of good reviews and / or paying with paypal to get customer protection has given me the confidence and so far everything has worked perfectly
Manufacturer refurbished is also good too, even better since you get a warranty.
Love this video and concept ! You should consider doing it with a budget of 2000 and 3000.
Jared, you're one heck of a heart-warming character man. Giving back to Allen hardcore is a nice thing to do. I love their website. Henry's Canada should take a lesson! Heck, even The Camera Store! Lol. Good job dude for bringing awareness to Allen's. You've done a great service to the community and to the store so keep up the good work.
Sony a6000 $349.00 Used
Sony 50mm 1.8 crop = 75mm $198.00 New
Sigma 30mm crop = 45mm $289.00 New
Sony 55mm - 210mm 4.5 - 6.3 $126 Used
Total $962
All found on line at KEH There is no camera store near where I live. I have to buy all my stuff online
I feel the Sony will give a beginner way more bang for the buck then the Nikon, better auto focus, more frames a second, newer tech, more focus points, or so I feel.
Nothing wider than 45mm Full frame equivalent, good luck shooting landscape/architecture/street? Hardly suitable for travel shots, which is what the average person uses a dedicated camera for.
Why is my camera overheating?
You can get both the A6000 and 16-50 for $349 if you shop around. Do keep in mind that Keh and any camera store will always be overpriced compared to buying directly from a seller. Just check everything carefully in real life.
Literally never seen an a6000 that cheap. Just bought one after researching for months and the cheapest price at "used-very good/like new" was $480.
Did something similar got a 5dmk2 a 24-105 f4 L lens a cf card and a charger for just under a grand. Local camera stores are great
I love your attitude to public. the 1000 usd budget it is very polite!
I got my d5600 + the kit lens 18-140 VR for only 650€, all NEW. Then I got my bag and tripod + one ND 10 stops filter + extension tubes, all that went to approx 900€. You may ask why the camera kit new? Because here in Spain new its about 1.2k € and used around 600-800€ so I got really lucky to find a store from Germany that was offering that camera kit for literally half the price even lower than a used one from Spain (LOL).
I really enjoyed this video. Netflix needs to get off their tail and sign the Fro team to a season of photography content!
You're funny
Love that where most creatives shy away from telling newbies what lenses they will need you’ve gone and put this together as an awesome starter kit and shown what can be done on a budget. Fantastic video.
In my opinion, I would rather have a 35mm lens for a crop sensor. If the body were a full-frame then I would go with the 50mm.
Based on his "portrait" comment. 50mm on the apc feels more like a 85mm. Which works. If general purpose photography. I'd agree. 35mm would be preferred
@@MeAndMyOpinions_OverYours 85mm for Canon. 75mm for Nikon (1.6x vs. 1.5x crop)
@@jameswhitehead6758 ah! thanks
I have the 35mm and not sure about it. If you want a lot of bokeh then you typically want to isolate the subject from the background, in which case the 35mm is quite tight to fill most of the frame for most subjects, I find. I think getting a really solid versatile wide-mid lens, like the sigma in this video, along with a fast 50mm (or more) could be a better option. I would have been tempted to drop the 50mm and spend a lot more on a telephoto lens that you wouldn't want to replace too soon.
I have a 35mm f1.4 and it takes amazing photos on FF. It is great for a 2 person portrait, and a whole lot more. (not that it would fit in this budget, but whatever)
Where was this video 10 years ago? Great information! I would get about the same. I might have looked for an ultra wide angle lens for star trails. But the 17-50 would work too.
Call me sentimental but great to see you at Allen's Camera again. we know he meant a lot to you and almost expecting him to appear again in the background :-)
When did he pass away?
@@jonathan-rw3mx about four years ago now i guess
Matt Thompson 😱
For a starter video kit, I would recommend a used lumix g7, (I sold mine for 300, my friend sold his for 350) New we spent around 450 on sale.
I would go with a panasonic 25mm 1.7 ($150 new)
And a 12mm 2.8 rokinon manual (I spent $212 new)
A rode video micro ($50)
And total that is 350+150+212= 712
then you have a little less than 300 to spend on a nice tripod, maybe some for of shoulder rig, etc.
Yess mate, love this content!! More of this please 🤙🏻
Really enjoy when you teach for beginners and folks on a budget. I know with such a large audience you have to try to interest everyone, but these are my favorites.
I would get a Sony a7 used (you get full frame), or a a6300 used ! (you get clean 4k), then a cheap Sony 50 mm 1.8.
Eh yea but Sony glass will put you through the roof
Andrew Sanchez yeah true, I felt it when I switched from Nikon lol still got one old AI 135 2.8.
@@chromaticvisuelle yea I sold my Sony A7iii and my Sony 70-2002.8 gmaster and just went back to DSLR don't get me wrong the Sony is amazing as hell. But I can't justify the huge cost to picture quility difference. Might go back to Sony if sigma or Tamron e we puts out a 70-200 or super zoom
/// a6300 used ! (you get clean 4k)///
For just a few minutes before it overheats and shuts down.
That cheap Sony 50 lens. I have it. It's awesome for photography but not so for videos due to its awkward auto focus
Camera work is great!!
Totally love the fact that your back to helping the people you started with. Shows that being real is everything after humbleness ⚡🙏🐐
This is pretty awesome that you did this. This now gives the beginer photographer a starting point and a direction on what he/she needs.
I would go with nikon d700 + 50mm 1.8 and 70-300 vr. For photos only ofc
I am still using a beaten d700 with a voigtlander 40mm F2SL and former journalist's 70-200VR, planning to get a suer wide angle next. 20f1.8maybe
@@frankluo230 im rocking 70-200 vr with my d4. More than a capable lense
Edit: rokinon has good wides
@@tothemoon2151 d700 all day every day over d600, don't even try to argue about it.
@@tothemoon2151 colors are one of a kind on d700. D600 is more like a toy imo
I’ve been thinking about what gear to get when I finally upgrade to full frame (currently have a 80d, 10-18mm, 24mm, 50mm and the 18-135mm), and it is pretty much the same set up you gave, but of course the more pro stuff, dream set up: eos R, RF lenses: 15-35 f2.8, 50 f1.2 and 70-200 f2.8. It has all you need right there.
Funny because I started out with a D5200 and a 17-50 2.8 from sigma! And now look where we are 😎
I started with the D5200 as well.. amazing camera, I decided to upgrade when the autofocus wasn't fast enough for my needs haha
When I started out back in 2008, my first DSLR was a Nikon D40 with the kit lens. I got some amazing photos with that camera. Then I upgraded to a D300 for a period of time. Then I got a D3200 just so I could do some video. Now I have a D600 with the Tamron 28-75 & 70-200 f2.8, & the 18-400 & 150-600, along with the 50 f1.8. One thing I would highly recommend starting out, when buying glass to buy full frame lenses, cause you know you are going to want to upgrade to a full frame camera at some point.
I agree to buy used full frame lenses for my crop camera (D7100) just because of the quality...i only disagree that going to full frame is automatically an upgrade..depends on what kind of photography you shoot..my upgrade will be the D500..everyone's shooting style and needs are different
my was 5200 + kit + 50 1.8
Haha cool. I had a d5200 with the 17-50 2.8 too. Also a 50mm 1.8 and the 85mm 1.8.
And now I shoot Sony like every other fan boy lol
So glad you did one of these types of videos Jared.
I loved this video I would like to see the same type of video but maybe with a different price range maybe 2000
Now this is a great video Jared! I love videos like this, so much good information for beginners. Well done!
Nikon d700 350$
Tokina 16 28 300$
Sigma 70 200 2 8 300$
aps-c :
Nikon d7000 300$
Tokina 11 16 2.8 300$
Sigma 70 200 2.8 300$
For wildlife:
Nikon d7000 500$
Tamron 150 600mm 500$
For macro:
Nikon d700 300$
Sigma 150 2.8 500$
For portrait
Canon 5dii 350$
Canon 135 f2 600$
Canon 50 f1.8 (no stm) 50$
D700 would blow that piece of junk D5600 out the water the D700 is probably the best camera Nikon ever made, and there are D series lenses that are super cheap that are far better than anything in the video, but I hear what Jared said about he only had Allen's stock there, but for me look around and get the best deals, then trade your gear up for better stuff it's what I've always done.
This is the correct answer.
70-200 2.8 for 300 bucks? where do i have to sign?
@@diegoeliasindriago7991 yes a sigma 70 200 2,8 hsm no os for 300$
I have both the 50mm f1.8 G and the 35mm f1.8 DX G on a D5300 and would say that I prefer to use the 35mm as it is sharper and focuses better than the 50mm. Regarding the 18-55 kit lens the latest version of it has something most Nikon DX lenses don't have and that is silent focus, if you start shooting video with any other nikon lens with a shotgun mic on the camera you will hear the lens focusing (that's the only thing I would suggest an 18-55 kit lens)
Hey, I saw you there that day! Allen's has been my go-to location for camera equipment for the past 5 years or so. I've spent probably close to $6K in cameras and lenses there, and I'm going to be dropping another $2K on the Sony 200-600mm G zoom lens.
Charles, Allen's has been my camera store for decades. They are the best, new or used. I can't even tell you how much I have spent there on pro gear. Got my Sony 200-600mm from them and I am waiting on the A7RIV to arrive. Cheers.
@@6gwilliams It's like I'm a kid when I go in there and it's my candy store!
This type of review makes much more sense than all the new kit reviews, I have pretty much bought all my kit second hand, although I do find the reviews of new kit interesting I just don’t have the cash to keep constantly upgrading, and they can leave you feeling that what you currently have is way inferior to the latest model of camera that is being reviewed, the new model being a must have as compared to the previous as it is seemingly implied!
I would have got a d700, 35 1.8g dx, 50 1.8d, 85 1.8g. This is basically the kit i have, got it for around 800$. I also have a d5300, an 18-55, 70-300 and a flash.
35mm and 50mm are too close, id get a 24mm and a 50mm
35 f/1.8 dx on a D700...?
Kai Longridge especially if 35mm is dx:)
@@TechnoBabble yah, tested it, looks great, a little bit of vignetting but i like it, i always put vignette in lightroom
Just looked up some shots, actually not that bad. :P I just assumed it would project a little circle in the middle of the frame on FF.
I absolutely love your videos, but a couple of questions: I have the 50mm 1.8 for my D750, but I also have the 35mm 1.8 for my light travel kit (D5600). Curious why you recommended the 50mm 1.8 fx lens instead of the 35mm 1.8 dx (assuming that a used 35mm dx would be cheaper than the used 50mm fx.) Other than a close 75mm equivalent focal length to the 85mm that many photographers use for portraits, are there other advantages to the 50mm fx on a crop sensor over the 35mm dx?
I bought my used A7RIII from Allens Camera a few weeks ago, good store.
I started out with a loaned camera from my sister in law. It was a Canon 60d with an 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens. Then moved on to the sigma 18-35mm f1.8 art a year later. My biggest splurge at the time. Used that combo for a good 2 years before moving on to a Canon 5d mark iii + 24-105 f4. I think you making these videos are great. It's a great introduction to newbies or enthusiasts. If only I had seen videos like these 5 or 6 years ago, I could've saved a little more money along the way for other gear.
Get a Canon 80D with the 2 lenses deal refurbished when there is a deal going on and also grab a 50mm f/1.8 and most people will be golden.
came to the comments looking for this. Wicked deal.
Some of your best content to date. Realistic and practical.
Nice informative video. I think it would be cool if you brought in an amateur with you and explained your reasoning to them at the same time and then gave it to them as a gift! Keep up the good work!
I love this video. It would have been nice to have seen this when I got started. Because of you, Jared, I went to Allen's to get my D500. I really enjoy my camera and Brandon helped a bunch. Keep up the good work. Thanks for this video.
Try selling those back to Allens. See how much you get back.
Wilson Law null
Spend $1000, sell back $250
@@TheFoxwiz and yet still better than Gamestop
@@riothero313 Lol. So true.
Nice starter show down... how about what you can get with same money but if cam from shop and lens from net..just your curious opinion about it..
5Dmk2 as the base camera, 50mm f1.8, 3rd party 24-70ish
Why a 5Dmk2 when the 6D used is cheap and much better
@@Tikkumies100 fair question. I just figured the 5DmkII was lots cheaper than even a 6D, so you'd have more $ for glass.
Did you used gear have a warranty?
Two of my cousin's were in the price market you were looking at one got a superzoom to take on summer exchange program with lost of side trips, the other one got a sony A7II with kit lens and a bunch of bundled accessories (kits was about 1k on Blakc friday sale last year, to take pictures of her baby.
Nikon d7200 with a sigma 17-50 2.8 would be a great kit
Totally agree with the getting that sigma 2.8 glass to start
I think I came out better with the a7II & Kit Lens new for $998 with free camera bag , 32GB SD card & Cleaning kit , no tax or shipping & handling at Adorama
You still have to pay that sales tax depending on where you live. Otherwise it's tax evasion.
@@TechnoBabble I didn't have to pay it because there is no Adorama store in my state
Nice approach for someone interested in photography. I assume the D5600 comes with at least one battery and charger. Probably not a lot of $, but how much more for a spare battery for this camera and I don't think used batteries would be as efficient as new ones?
Sony a7II (550 used good condition), minolta 35-70 f3,5 (60+10 adapter), olympus 100 f2.8 (150+ 10 adapter) minolta 200 f4 (50, already have the adapter) canon 24 f2.8 (90+ 10).
Get the cheapest sd card and try to get a tripod.
Much more fun if you want an hobby.
😁
Just took a screenshot of your comment, I'll look for all that! Thanks!
Back at it again at allen's camera. Like the good old days
Or just get a sony a7 with a ton of vintage glass😀
Shh, let them buy their garbage
And not have autofocus?
Right?!
nrgzrbunny777 autofocus has only been around since the 80s, how do you think people shot stuff prior
Hmm, good vintage lenses are expensive, too. I know, because I have several of the cheap ones :D. Mostly M42 lenses. Such es Soviet Tair 11a (135/2.8), Helios 44-2 (58/2)(but I love them for their swirly bokeh) and Tair 3PHS (300mm 4,5), or east German 50/2.8 Tessar, Pentacon 135/2.8 (the rebranded Meyer Görlitz Version), Pentacon 50/1.8... But also the 135/3.5 Schneider-Kreuznach Tele Xenar isn't that good. In comparison to the cheap 70-300 Canon EF I got new around 100€ the difference in the optical quality isn't that far away. The build quality is much better of the vintage lenses. The lack of autofocus is not a big deal, but automatic aperture would be nice... Also for the exif data in the end. At the other end I got some Leica R lenses. mechanically they are top end. But optically, in the last 50 years huge advantages werde done. Especially in coating. A Leica 50/1.4 (first version) is by far not as good as a Sigma art lens.
Those lenses were never designed for today's photography purposes. So against the light without flaring, nice Bokeh and crisper clear wide open. This are all modern things that were getting important after digital cameras replaced analog cameras. Before, shooting wide open was not that common and just for improving low light quality. Similar as today, when the iso is raised to an insane level, the images getting worse, but it is better to have a little less quality image instead of no image. For this reason, old lenses are a bit soft wide open, because they are optimized for f5,6-8. Film was expensive and there was always a delay between shooting and development. And the focus was pulled manually. This, a narrow focus field was not appreciated, the aperture was closed, thus it make sense why those lenses are optimized closed down.
However, Sometimes the look and feel of old lenses is unique. They are inferiour to the latest designs, but more individual. It is not that they automatically create a vintage look like scratches and sepia colours, but much less contrasty pictures with slightly different color rendering (due to the old coatings), and a not optimized but creative bokeh.
It is cool seeing you back in the place where you did a lot of unboxing and review videos back in the day, it was refresing and fits the theme of this video. Great video Jared!.
I would have taken Sony a6x00, used 300-600e and then go full manual with old school lenses or superwide + one zoom lens. But that store didnt have Sonys, it seems
Loved the style.
Clicked so fast that RUclips can’t even process the like to view ratio correctly.
You can save someting on the body going for a D300s or a D700 and couple with some old AF/AF-D lens having the in-body AF motor...
Nikon d7500 for 600 refurb 👌
An amazing deal, possibly only rivaled by the Fuji X-H1 with 16-55/2.8 for $1.7K, although that is in another price bracket.
Absolutely fantastic video. Its really informative. Can you make a video on buying used lens i.e. whether to buy new or old lens?
Sony RX 100VI, done.
Your getting a much bigger sensor with the APS-C
@@bassangler73 The focus of the video may be about starting out with an interchangeable lens camera, which can be educational and fun. If you are new to photography and want a really good camera without the complication the premium compacts are a great option. I personally carry the compacts far more often than the larger body cameras for which I own a number of.
Why not opt for Fuji xt30 with the kit lens? Or Sony a6400
Because you don't get any lensrs except the kit lens with your choice
Fujifilm X100s or X100t. Done and done.
Finally something refreshing video to watch. 😌👍🏽
if youre in California, the tax is like $100+ lol
not if you buy used person to person
How is the used mech. at Allen's? Thinking about buying a used 7d to shoot some high school sports. Like most my funds are always in flux.... The quality is good?
"Real World" budget would include the sales tax, within the $1K budget. Pesky government.
Great to see a FKP video with you behind the counter at Allen's Camera, again! And very cool idea for a video.
Imagine thinking $1000 is spending on a “budget”
This is budget for enthusiast photography. No hobby that's taken seriously will ever be cheap
budget and cheap is not the same thing, "budget" is just setting a max price for your gears, even at $5K it's still a budget if you don't fancy spending over that
I bought the Sony A6300 & Sony SEL 16-50 & SEL 55-210 alltogether for 930 Euro.
May I ask why this video/buying guide is so focused on Nikon?
Best options on the second-hand market.
The lenses e you mentioned are a bit crappy ones.
Plus neither of those are f2.8 or f1.8 like with the Nikon kit an as soon lite drops significantly you can put your Sony kit down and stop shooting.
Damn you look really tired
Getting back to basics, spot on Mr Fro.
how to spend 1K in august 2019 real proper:
buy sony a7 on ebay + load of lenses
full frame mirroless vs oldschool dslr crop
can you buy load of lenses and sony a7 for 1k though?
good question. anyway buying dslr in 2019 isn't best descision. particularly for beginner. you will stuck in old technology. it's better to go with new era from beginning
Hi ! Would you go with a canon t7i or the Nikon d5600?
Improvement is minimal from D5200 to d5600 why not full frame?
Glass is more expensive I guess
Hey Fro, Full Frame lenses lose or dosen't lose sharpness on APS-C bodies? Everyone have a different opinion on internet, but on you a can trust.
I have recently buy a 80D and now want to spend some money on good glass. But what lenses gonna produce sharpen image on my 80D 16-35 L f4 or a Sigma 18-35 1.8 Art on F4? I don't care about the aperture.
Wouldnt have bought the 50 1.8....would have saved for a better tele zoom....and does this nikon has a build in flash?
I really appreciate this video. It’s great to have a video centred on what to buy on a budget.
What lens would you leave behind and get a flash instead?
Seeing something like this about 6 years ago would have been sweet. This is a great topic to cover from those wanting to get started in photography
I did it years ago too
Absolutely solid kit.
Is a 70-300 without VR going to hard work without a tripod unless is brilliant sunlight?
How much was the 85mm because I'd have gone with that. I had the 17-50 2.8 on my Nikon d5200 body. Was a great lens. But because I had 50mm already I boiggt the 85mm 1.8
This is such a fantastic video for those starting photography. Much appreciated
I got excited when you grabbed the 55-300 I started with a d7x with the kit 18-55, 35 1.8 and the 55-300! It was an awesome setup for a couple years that I had less then $600 in. It was an awesome combo of lenses until I could justify the upgrade to the 70-200 and gold primes.
I just got a canon eos2000d refurbished kit of Amazon I'm loving it been at it for 3weeks but what are your thoughts and is it the exact same as the rebel t7? I'm starting to out grow the 18-55mm kit lens and the filters the kit had I am trying to get a 75-300mm and nifty 50mm but are they really all the hype?
Also I shoot mainly scenic farm and country and everything else I can from miscellaneous objects to people as well wanting to street shoot as well
Wouldn't you have to consider that the crop also effectively effects 2.8 aperture?
no, I never ever worry about stuff like that. It's a 2.8 lens, it gathers 2.8 worth of light. Do you think I beginner needs to worry about something like that vs simply going out and shooting. This is the problem online today. Someone makes a video about a crop sensor and how the lens isn't really a 2.8 so on so forth, it's confusing. It's already confusing enough to hear crop factory x1.5
The D5600 is a great choice! I have a D5300 I bought new, which now has 195,384 on the Shutter Count, still works _flawlessly_. It's now enjoying semi-retirement as a backup to my Pentax K-1. (I need a camera with a high Shutter Count rating - I'm shooting 50k-70k photos/year, self-employed.) Love the lens choices you made!! Great video!
Jared, what about 2-3$k full frame portrait camera setup?
Hey! Jared I am from Nepal. I have been watching your videos from 3 months ago. I was thinking of buying a dslr for the first time. And this has become a fantastic answer for me. Thanks a lot sir. You have given me a answer.
Going out to do this next weekend! My refurbished D7500 for $599 is coming in the mail tomorrow and I'm ready to upgrade my glass! Been shooting kit on a D3200 for the past 6+ years (since I was a kid who's parents got them a camera just like you said) and I am so excited to get started
I'm glad that you mentioned the D3400 is a great starter camera for amateurs. I just started photography this year and wasn't sure if I'd like it. I got a D3400 with 2 lenses for $300 and now I'm hooked on landscape/astrophotography
That's an interesting format. Thanks!
What a great video Jared :D Almost everyone else on YT just pushes new, expensive, and just too much gear for starters. I'm a pro now, but would have loved this back in the day to help build stuff out. Now, it's Still fun to watch just to compare what You'd pick compared to what I'd pick. Totally solid kit you put together and a hell of a lot of fun to watch!
This was an awesome idea for a video, Jared. Loved it! I think in this day and age it's refreshing to see a traditional camera shop vs online stores being used to solve a budget limitation. They're not all out to pasture yet. Would love to see more videos like this!
Can u explain me what is AF-P really means. Is that its use a rotating sound while focusing
Seems like a great starter kit. I started off with a new D60 w/ kit lens 18-55 and 55-200. Upgraded years later to the 35 prime and a hot shoe. Still have that original kit as backup, great setup but i love my new D7200 I bought last year on sale. About to buy a Nikon Vertical Grip to try that out next. Each addition added fun, enhancement, and excitement to photography. Great kit, used is great, local is awesome, and of course glass, glass, glass ;) (And i shoot RAW on both my camera bodies)
Great video. Solid advice for the newcomer! Thanks for keeping it real. Not everyone can afford to start with the latest 3$k camera. This is what I wish someone told me when I started. Well done!