I so appreciate your comment. This absolutely true. We're not saying that power only isn't better than nothing, we're simply stating the reality of power only and presenting other viable options. Thanks again.
Every part of trucking has BS to deal with. I can sit here and make a list of all the BS you deal with as a trailer owner. Maintenance costs, sitting at shoppers for hours or days even, brokers never paying detention. I do power only and have only used a load out a handful of times in 2 years. I make 10-14k per week. No part of trucking ever goes perfectly.
I speak with a lot of people and some do make good money with Power Only. I'm glad you're doing well. Most of the time, when we get into the details, it comes out that they run regional, barely put on any miles, and don't much at all. Please keep in mind that PO slows down during the winter and this is exactly what we're seeing now. Again, I'm glad you're doing well but for most people, this is not their experience. There's a reason why as a whole PO is nowhere near as profitable as having a trailer.
@Nick Diaz you're absolutely right, they're considerably lower and there are many other issues too. Unfortunately people will argue till they're blue in the face 😂
@peaceful music one of our old videos went into the power only market and a recent one showed a power only who made a little over $10k in a week. It's very tough but you can make a little money running power only. You'd be better off with a trailer though.
I do power only, but I only move trailers. I won't do load outs. Now if a trailer is preloaded, I do those. But it's pick it up, and drop it off. That's it. All trailers have certain rules. If it can't pass a pretrip inspection, I'm not moving it. Period. Shippers pays for all flats and repairs. I charge a fee for temp tags, and it must transport empty. No load on a temp tag. There are more rules, but you get the ideal.
@theundercoverboss2020 as I've mentioned in a reply to your other comment, power only is a very different type of market. While some people were able to do the above somewhat, it's mostly not possible and especially not during the winter time or during a time with a trailer shortage. I've chatted with a man here from another one of our videos and after a while we found out he only runs a few days a week, regionally, barely hits any miles, and hardly makes any money. But of course he neglected to mention any of this at first.
Power only has its benefits. I own my own trailer and if I'm not working it, I don't have to pay for repairs. Plus, you don't have to worry about dock time, which can take you from 2 to 4 hours to be unloaded. Bobtailing isn't bad, it's better than deadheading with your own trailer. Especially in the wind!
I actually did that and was the worst in the entire dealership. Ended up buying more cars than I sold 😜 No fan of Power Only. I'm not saying you can't make money with it. There are just much better ways of going about it.
Doing load outs can be a risk. We don't typically do load out for that reason. But being a power only company that just turned a year old we have done fairly well. If your managing your finances and work hard there is no reason to fail. In our first year we are now up to four trucks, three driver's, grossed over $500,000 and half of that was done with my truck. But we have high standards and do jobs that others won't do. Mostly touch freight. The market is there but you got to get out of the dock to dock mindset. Be willing and able to do things others won't do. But most importantly, make sure to loop God into the equation and follow His lead. He can and will start you in the right direction.
Glad to hear you're doing well guys! Power only is certainly not for everyone but like with anything, the money is there if you look for it and get creative. At the peak of the market we had many PO carriers who did very well. I hope you'll get yourself some trailers as this market won't last. PO as well as flatbed and step deck trailers will be hit the hardest. I'd recommend some dry vans that you get vented. You might've done well as a PO because of the inflated freight rates which will come down. Please call us if you're looking to expand further and need help. We're full service so you'll get much more than just high freight rates. Please call my direct line at (801) 447-6929 - Vitaliy
Trailers with more than bad tires. I do power only and the only thing I hate about my job is when I have to pick up the trailer. I spend so much time finding a good trailer. So many things wrong with them had a wheel locked up on one a broken electrical on another and so on and so forth.
Hate to say it but unfortunately you're right. Many people don't realize what they're getting into when it comes to power only and load out trailers. Lots of bad equipment, bobtailing, and lost time.
I did some ups power only. Paid very well. I do run team with my husband. We ran 6500 miles a week. The equipment was pretty good, but when it did have a problem, there was no time to get it repaired. Mostly it was tire related or it didn't have an annual inspection.
This guy is full of it. I do power only and stay busy and make good money and never have to load out a trailer. Mostly all new and empty and get great mileage and great fuel discounts, avg $2.15 mileage and any deadhead over 100 miles I usually get paid for, no, not all the time
Exactly, sometimes you can have a trailer for a longer period of time. Sometimes you can negotiate, sometimes there are penalties, but most of the time they're for 7 days or so. When dealing from a truck dispatch service aspect, we simply cannot count on it. Too many problems, too much deadhead, too much of a hit on the rate, and you constantly have to be a sniper. It's impossible when running with lots of trucks and drivers. I can see how it could work for you if you operate one or two trucks, but imagine doing this with hundreds.
Well loadouts I've had for two or three weeks and I usually tell the broker you need to be flexible with me because I'm not going to guarantee it in a week I want to use that trailer for at least 2 weeks and it might even turn into 3 weeks if you're okay with that then I'll take the trailer but if not I'll find another broker
That's one way to go about it. We had a client who had a trailer for a week and then paid a $50 daily fine and kept it as long as necessary. That's one way to get out in a pinch.
He's right if one does power only if one does them only via Load Outs, which is all he focuses on. Truly a foolish way to try and stay above water. There are plenty of opportunities to do Power Only that do not require getting/using a load-out trailer. I've been doing power only loads for 2 years and have made good bank on them and never once did I have to do it under a load-out nor would I entertain such an idea. This video reeks of a one-way scare pitch to not do power only because one has to do it using a load-out. Yes, it is one way to do a power only, though not highly recommended for the reasons he states however there are plenty of other Power Only options. Summarizing the above video: I call BS for the deliberate lack of information related to all possible options for Power Only loads.
We don't only run load outs. We also run tow aways. Plus how many miles do you run, what areas, and what's been your rate. 9 out of 10 people I speak with who speak highly of power only, only run a small amount of miles. Power only in any capacity is not a sustainable way to run a trucking company. If you have older or paid off equipment, low to no debt, and no need to make large payments, then maybe it'll work for you. How are things going for you now in this market? Are you still "making bank"? What does "making bank" mean to you? How much do you gross weekly? How many miles? What's your average rate? I think what's foolish is to claim these things but not provide any background information. I've spoken to many people who start out saying the same thing but then we dig deeper and the run 1k miles a week in a regional market with low gross. Whatever floats your boat I suppose.
I'm not saying you can't make money with Power Only. All I'm saying is you'll make more money with a trailer and will do it with less headaches, less deadhead, and less liabilities. Of course you can run power only and it will pay money and you can add your deadhead into it. I'm glad you're doing well. Most people don't see $4 - $5 per mile running power only.
That's absolutely not true. Neither AFT Dispatch nor A2C Logistics have any trailers that we lease. We've helped some folks rent trailers through some of our contacts in the industry. Our leased on owner operators can get rental trailers through our lease on program but these aren't not our trailers. In all cases, none of the trailers are owned by us, we don't rent equipment, and we don't lease equipment. We make our money by dispatching carriers and leasing on owner operators. That's it.
I hate load outs even as a team! It was too much like having out own which we didn't like and wasted a lot of time with us sitting to get loaded and unloaded and also being responsible for trailer maintenance I'll pass! We've made more money power only in a few months than we did with our own trailer in that same amount of time.so to each it's own
Sorry for the delay in responding, your comment was flagged by RUclips and I just saw it. Remember that the power only market slows down to a crawl during the winter season. I'm glad it's worked out well for you though. We do dispatch power only and have plenty of guys who do well but those are the same people who don't limit their markets, work hard, and stay OTR for some time.
I did really well with power only until power only got over saturated in the market fell went back to pull my Own trailer and then the market went backup I parked my trailer went back to power only I did a lot of work for the railroad and power Stations As well as utility Power only is a great option
That's an older video, take a look at our more recent releases and you'll that we have Power Only making just under $13,500 per week. You should definitely be making considerably more than $4k - $5k in this market, even if you're home on the weekends. Call me at (801) 447-6929 and we can discuss it on Monday.
It's true power only is a pain in the ass. Unfortunately if you cannot afford a trailer there is not much option for you. What I do though is the brokers low ball a lot on these trailers so use the trailer for 2 weeks instead of 1 and let them keep the $150 😂
That's one way to go about it 😂 We had a customer who did exactly that and it worked for him. We do dispatch power only now. We have a lot of good people who just couldn't buy or rent a trailer so we took them on as power only. Less more and more headache but it is better than nothing. Let me know if interested. My direct line is (801) 447-6929 Vitaliy
Where do you find these brokers that can lend you the trailers for 1-2 weeks. I'm brand new to the game and this is something i want to do but have no network here in texas that can help. any tips would help, thanks
@Omar Avila there are brokers that will give the trailer for 7 days. Some for 10. If you make the connections, you'll get them for 2 weeks. I would strongly advise to stay away from power only as a new carrier and during the winter season. PO slows down in the winter and while nowadays we can work with carriers who have a new authority (30 days) and it used to be 90 days till a broke would work with you. The truth is that it's still 90 days for most brokers when it comes to power only. Be careful.
You have to consider your expenses. Are you talking net or gross income? You can make even $1,000 per day but it doesn't stay in your pocket. Also, when you say you're an owner operator, do you mean you're leased on with someone or have your own authority that's brand new? It's possible to do what you want but requires some planning.
Power only is a very difficult market that only gets tougher in the winter time. It isn't the type of market you can really pick and choose from, more like take what you can get and make the best of it. The more restrictions you put on yourself, the worse you'll do.
Been doing power only for a while and i ain't complaining.. It depends on how you like to make money.. And who the hell are you running for that you got holes in your trailer walls.. 🤔
No one said you can't make money with power only. We are saying that you can make more money with a trailer, it will come easier, with less hassles, less liability, and less deadheading.
Yes, it definitely increases operating costs and parking seems to be a nationwide issue. I think ultimately it's still better to have your own trailer considering depreciation and tax advantages, as well as the considerably higher gross revenue.
I'm glad it's working out for you. I'm not saying it's not a good way to go. It just doesn't work for most people. However with that said, it does work for some.
Most power only loads are load outs. Tow aways are much more rare. There are ways to make power only work slightly better if you pick up and deliver in large cities but it still won't help with the loss of at least a couple of days on PU/S0, deadheading, and liability issues.
Alfredo, I dont think he knows there is a difference. As you know there are three types of power only, load out, tow away and power only. Picking up a preloaded trailer hook n drop, is an easy way to make money. Listening to his rates they sound very average at best. I did notice that he was not sharing the deadhead numbers, and only giving you the gross.
@John Turner, I certainly know the difference. A tow away type of load is quite rare for one to count on it on a consistent basis, I'm sure you're aware. Load outs are much more common and sometimes we're able to get trailers for up to 2 weeks which helps a lot. What is this third type of "power only" you're referring to outside of tow aways and load outs? As to the deadhead miles, we show deadhead miles on many of our videos but not always. It takes a lot of time to calculate those. I will tell you that most of our deadheading is quite low at 10% - 15% of total miles.
@@AFTDispatch You have load outs(empty and can load) Tow Away (empty and cannot load), and power only where you are hauling preloaded trailers like a tow away only they are typically loaded with freight making them a hook and drop. They are plentiful and usually pay well. I run power only exclusively, I average between 2.50 and 3.50 for all my miles loaded and empty. I almost NEVER have to sit at the dock getting loaded or unloaded and I have not spent ONE PENNY on owning or maintaining a trailer. Its just wrong to tell people to say no to power only, just because it does not serve your self interest.
@John Turner - power only is a market, the largest market there is. A Tow Away is generally a preloaded trailer. They're almost never empty. So ultimately there are two types, a load out and a tow away. As to the rest of your comment, why would it not serve us? We make the same amount of money. We tell people to stay away from power only for the reasons explained in the video. Lots of deadheading, wasted time, having to take loads you don't want just to deliver the trailer, additional liability, insurance, potentially bad trailers, and other issues. Would you disagree? Maybe you ought to watch the video again if you missed those points.
Hi i just watch and listen your video i have a question do you work with brand new drivers; if yes was the percentage per load you charge or you do weekly charge please let me know am learning and planning on get my CDL thanks.
It really depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking to lease on, then you need 2 years of experience. If you have your own authority, then just 30 days. If you prefer, call me at (801) 447-6929 and I'll be more than happy to go over everything with you. Thanks for being a loyal subscriber.
What about the fuel surcharge? 99/100 brokers have all in pricing. Even if every broker gave fuel surcharge on every single load, they lower the agreed on rate by the same dollar amount as the fuel surcharge and then add it back in. How does that help anyone? You get the same money.
Very often the trailers are brand new but often they are not. When you deal with a lot of companies and lots of trailers, you begin to run into problems. We've seen trailers with bad brakes, bad tires, damaged frames, and other issues. That can turn into an expensive claim for the carrier. I'm glad you've had good luck.
Usually I don't deadhead for power onlys or loadouts I find something close to me and I usually negotiate a higher rate because there are brokers that will pay a higher rate and that means that will guarantee they get their trailer sooner not 100% guarantee but it's like maybe a 75% guarantee that I'll be able to get it to them sooner cuz they paid me more at least that's how I do it but you have to stipulate that it's always a negotiation
Thanks George, great insight. Something to keep in mind is that they don't usually care to have their trailer. This is why many of them will allow you to hold onto the PO trailer longer for a $50/day penalty. I'm not saying you can't make money in power only trucking, just that you can make more money and much more consistently when you have a trailer. Every load you see in our videos is someone who has a trailer, whether their own or a rental.
This is why I don't listen to the so-called expert this guy is completely wrong. I made over 240,000 last year running power only. Don't listen to these guys that are trying to talk you into leasing on with them and they want to control the truck that you bought it's all Bs
A donkey with a cart could've made that in last year's market. At least look at the date of publication. No one proclaimed to be an expert. As to talking people into doing something, no one is forced to lease on and we also work with carriers so it doesn't matter to us one way or another. How much money are you making now in Power Only. Who cares about last year's inflated numbers. Or did you get a trailer? I hope you have a better day.
It's a huge difference and this is why we're not fans of power only. We recently began working with some power only carriers only because we want to be able to help them make something rather than nothing. It's tough right now with the trailer shortages. You can see in our recent videos that we've done quite well for them. One carrier hit nearly $13,500 running power only. It's obviously not the best way to go but I'd much rather they make this than sit around wasting their time during this hot freight market.
I guess this is more geography based. I'm in wv and there are quite a few power only opportunities but it involves moving company owned trailers to company specified destinations. And the trailer load outs you hardly see. If it was my job to deliver someone else's trailer I wouldn't feel comfortable using it.
@Mike Spradling it really geography based. You have to run where there is industry. Load outs are okay if you take what you can get and shoot for a higher average knowing there will be more bobtailing involved.
And I never did load outs I would only pick preloaded trailers straight to the destination drop it get head to my next one and I'll always get paid for your dead head
I speak with a lot of people and some do make good money with PO. I'm glad you're one of those people. Most of the time, when we get into the details, it comes out that they run regional, barely put on any miles, and the "a lot of money" they claim isn't much at all. I'm glad you're doing well. Please keep in mind that PO slows down during the winter and this is exactly what we're seeing now.
It sounds to me like you need to watch that video again. You completely missed the message. This is actually exactly what I'm saying...that it's part of doing business and unrealistic to find a load under 10 miles all the time.
He's right, power only is like having a monkey on your back. It can really tie up your cash flow. Not to mention trailers with bad tires, etc.
I so appreciate your comment. This absolutely true. We're not saying that power only isn't better than nothing, we're simply stating the reality of power only and presenting other viable options. Thanks again.
thank u man ill be in contact w you soon, ima 21 year old looking to start and be CEO of my trucking company this year
@@AFTDispatch you are right POWER ONLY SUCKS 🤦🤦 am based in laredo and u can only do so much with PO
Every part of trucking has BS to deal with. I can sit here and make a list of all the BS you deal with as a trailer owner. Maintenance costs, sitting at shoppers for hours or days even, brokers never paying detention. I do power only and have only used a load out a handful of times in 2 years. I make 10-14k per week. No part of trucking ever goes perfectly.
I speak with a lot of people and some do make good money with Power Only. I'm glad you're doing well.
Most of the time, when we get into the details, it comes out that they run regional, barely put on any miles, and don't much at all.
Please keep in mind that PO slows down during the winter and this is exactly what we're seeing now.
Again, I'm glad you're doing well but for most people, this is not their experience. There's a reason why as a whole PO is nowhere near as profitable as having a trailer.
@@AFTDispatch The rates for PO are way lower too.
@Nick Diaz you're absolutely right, they're considerably lower and there are many other issues too. Unfortunately people will argue till they're blue in the face 😂
can u make some video about PO?
@peaceful music one of our old videos went into the power only market and a recent one showed a power only who made a little over $10k in a week. It's very tough but you can make a little money running power only. You'd be better off with a trailer though.
I do power only, but I only move trailers. I won't do load outs. Now if a trailer is preloaded, I do those. But it's pick it up, and drop it off. That's it.
All trailers have certain rules. If it can't pass a pretrip inspection, I'm not moving it. Period. Shippers pays for all flats and repairs. I charge a fee for temp tags, and it must transport empty. No load on a temp tag. There are more rules, but you get the ideal.
Sounds like good deal to me. I hope you're getting both the miles and the money.
EXACTLY, THATS EXACTLY WHAT IM LOOKING TO DO.
@theundercoverboss2020 as I've mentioned in a reply to your other comment, power only is a very different type of market. While some people were able to do the above somewhat, it's mostly not possible and especially not during the winter time or during a time with a trailer shortage. I've chatted with a man here from another one of our videos and after a while we found out he only runs a few days a week, regionally, barely hits any miles, and hardly makes any money. But of course he neglected to mention any of this at first.
Power only has its benefits. I own my own trailer and if I'm not working it, I don't have to pay for repairs. Plus, you don't have to worry about dock time, which can take you from 2 to 4 hours to be unloaded. Bobtailing isn't bad, it's better than deadheading with your own trailer. Especially in the wind!
Nothing wrong with power only. You could be a good used car sales man 😂
I actually did that and was the worst in the entire dealership. Ended up buying more cars than I sold 😜
No fan of Power Only. I'm not saying you can't make money with it. There are just much better ways of going about it.
lol word
Doing load outs can be a risk. We don't typically do load out for that reason. But being a power only company that just turned a year old we have done fairly well. If your managing your finances and work hard there is no reason to fail. In our first year we are now up to four trucks, three driver's, grossed over $500,000 and half of that was done with my truck. But we have high standards and do jobs that others won't do. Mostly touch freight. The market is there but you got to get out of the dock to dock mindset. Be willing and able to do things others won't do. But most importantly, make sure to loop God into the equation and follow His lead. He can and will start you in the right direction.
Glad to hear you're doing well guys! Power only is certainly not for everyone but like with anything, the money is there if you look for it and get creative. At the peak of the market we had many PO carriers who did very well.
I hope you'll get yourself some trailers as this market won't last. PO as well as flatbed and step deck trailers will be hit the hardest. I'd recommend some dry vans that you get vented. You might've done well as a PO because of the inflated freight rates which will come down. Please call us if you're looking to expand further and need help. We're full service so you'll get much more than just high freight rates.
Please call my direct line at (801) 447-6929 - Vitaliy
What is a good power only company to get with? and do you use a couple power only companys or one. im looking to get started with one
Trailers with more than bad tires. I do power only and the only thing I hate about my job is when I have to pick up the trailer. I spend so much time finding a good trailer. So many things wrong with them had a wheel locked up on one a broken electrical on another and so on and so forth.
Hate to say it but unfortunately you're right. Many people don't realize what they're getting into when it comes to power only and load out trailers. Lots of bad equipment, bobtailing, and lost time.
I did some ups power only. Paid very well. I do run team with my husband. We ran 6500 miles a week. The equipment was pretty good, but when it did have a problem, there was no time to get it repaired. Mostly it was tire related or it didn't have an annual inspection.
Ive done power only all new trailers and didn't do load out just moved the trailers and stack loaded new Freightliner trucks from Wisconsin
This guy is full of it. I do power only and stay busy and make good money and never have to load out a trailer. Mostly all new and empty and get great mileage and great fuel discounts, avg $2.15 mileage and any deadhead over 100 miles I usually get paid for, no, not all the time
It's a 3 year old video. 👍🏻
I've gotten a trailer for two or three weeks before on more than one occasion
Exactly, sometimes you can have a trailer for a longer period of time. Sometimes you can negotiate, sometimes there are penalties, but most of the time they're for 7 days or so. When dealing from a truck dispatch service aspect, we simply cannot count on it. Too many problems, too much deadhead, too much of a hit on the rate, and you constantly have to be a sniper. It's impossible when running with lots of trucks and drivers. I can see how it could work for you if you operate one or two trucks, but imagine doing this with hundreds.
Well loadouts I've had for two or three weeks and I usually tell the broker you need to be flexible with me because I'm not going to guarantee it in a week I want to use that trailer for at least 2 weeks and it might even turn into 3 weeks if you're okay with that then I'll take the trailer but if not I'll find another broker
That's one way to go about it. We had a client who had a trailer for a week and then paid a $50 daily fine and kept it as long as necessary. That's one way to get out in a pinch.
He's right if one does power only if one does them only via Load Outs, which is all he focuses on. Truly a foolish way to try and stay above water. There are plenty of opportunities to do Power Only that do not require getting/using a load-out trailer. I've been doing power only loads for 2 years and have made good bank on them and never once did I have to do it under a load-out nor would I entertain such an idea. This video reeks of a one-way scare pitch to not do power only because one has to do it using a load-out. Yes, it is one way to do a power only, though not highly recommended for the reasons he states however there are plenty of other Power Only options. Summarizing the above video: I call BS for the deliberate lack of information related to all possible options for Power Only loads.
We don't only run load outs. We also run tow aways. Plus how many miles do you run, what areas, and what's been your rate. 9 out of 10 people I speak with who speak highly of power only, only run a small amount of miles. Power only in any capacity is not a sustainable way to run a trucking company. If you have older or paid off equipment, low to no debt, and no need to make large payments, then maybe it'll work for you. How are things going for you now in this market? Are you still "making bank"? What does "making bank" mean to you? How much do you gross weekly? How many miles? What's your average rate?
I think what's foolish is to claim these things but not provide any background information.
I've spoken to many people who start out saying the same thing but then we dig deeper and the run 1k miles a week in a regional market with low gross. Whatever floats your boat I suppose.
I do power only. Fleet of two trucks, 100% D/H all miles paid even bobtail. I don't know what po this guy talking about
I'm not saying you can't make money with Power Only. All I'm saying is you'll make more money with a trailer and will do it with less headaches, less deadhead, and less liabilities.
Of course you can run power only and it will pay money and you can add your deadhead into it. I'm glad you're doing well. Most people don't see $4 - $5 per mile running power only.
That's absolutely not true. Neither AFT Dispatch nor A2C Logistics have any trailers that we lease.
We've helped some folks rent trailers through some of our contacts in the industry.
Our leased on owner operators can get rental trailers through our lease on program but these aren't not our trailers.
In all cases, none of the trailers are owned by us, we don't rent equipment, and we don't lease equipment.
We make our money by dispatching carriers and leasing on owner operators. That's it.
Hi could u please tell how do u find power only loads, do u take one way trip or only round trip?
That's good may I ask which company you work with
I hate load outs even as a team! It was too much like having out own which we didn't like and wasted a lot of time with us sitting to get loaded and unloaded and also being responsible for trailer maintenance I'll pass! We've made more money power only in a few months than we did with our own trailer in that same amount of time.so to each it's own
Sorry for the delay in responding, your comment was flagged by RUclips and I just saw it.
Remember that the power only market slows down to a crawl during the winter season. I'm glad it's worked out well for you though. We do dispatch power only and have plenty of guys who do well but those are the same people who don't limit their markets, work hard, and stay OTR for some time.
I did really well with power only until power only got over saturated in the market fell went back to pull my Own trailer and then the market went backup I parked my trailer went back to power only I did a lot of work for the railroad and power Stations As well as utility Power only is a great option
Tell me about the railroad. I’m close to them in Jacksonville, FL
I call bs been doing power only for years never had any of the problems you talking about do anywhere from 4k to 5k a week an home 🏡 ever weekend
That's an older video, take a look at our more recent releases and you'll that we have Power Only making just under $13,500 per week.
You should definitely be making considerably more than $4k - $5k in this market, even if you're home on the weekends.
Call me at (801) 447-6929 and we can discuss it on Monday.
There's pros and cons to power only but I'll tell you what if you have a good sale price on a truck let me know I'm needing an extra truck
Call me on Monday and I'll get you connected with my dealer. The only honest dealer I know.
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I've got a 97 Peterbilt for sale in Fort Stockton Texas 3406 B model cat 13 speed sleeper
It's true power only is a pain in the ass. Unfortunately if you cannot afford a trailer there is not much option for you. What I do though is the brokers low ball a lot on these trailers so use the trailer for 2 weeks instead of 1 and let them keep the $150 😂
That's one way to go about it 😂
We had a customer who did exactly that and it worked for him. We do dispatch power only now. We have a lot of good people who just couldn't buy or rent a trailer so we took them on as power only. Less more and more headache but it is better than nothing.
Let me know if interested. My direct line is (801) 447-6929 Vitaliy
Where do you find these brokers that can lend you the trailers for 1-2 weeks. I'm brand new to the game and this is something i want to do but have no network here in texas that can help. any tips would help, thanks
@Omar Avila there are brokers that will give the trailer for 7 days. Some for 10. If you make the connections, you'll get them for 2 weeks. I would strongly advise to stay away from power only as a new carrier and during the winter season. PO slows down in the winter and while nowadays we can work with carriers who have a new authority (30 days) and it used to be 90 days till a broke would work with you. The truth is that it's still 90 days for most brokers when it comes to power only. Be careful.
I'm a new owner operator, living Massachusetts. Do you think I can make $1k a week, while being home every day.
It's possible but highly unlikely.
You have to consider your expenses. Are you talking net or gross income? You can make even $1,000 per day but it doesn't stay in your pocket. Also, when you say you're an owner operator, do you mean you're leased on with someone or have your own authority that's brand new? It's possible to do what you want but requires some planning.
What if I don’t give a shet about loading the trailer? All I’m looking to do is deliver it.
I wouldn’t even think about loading a brand new trailer.
Power only is a very difficult market that only gets tougher in the winter time. It isn't the type of market you can really pick and choose from, more like take what you can get and make the best of it. The more restrictions you put on yourself, the worse you'll do.
@@AFTDispatch that figures. Thanks
Been doing power only for a while and i ain't complaining.. It depends on how you like to make money.. And who the hell are you running for that you got holes in your trailer walls.. 🤔
No one said you can't make money with power only. We are saying that you can make more money with a trailer, it will come easier, with less hassles, less liability, and less deadheading.
@@AFTDispatch again it depends where your located..
@@AFTDispatch but yes you are corrct a trailer does bring in more revenue but it also brings up operating cost, parking is expensive where im at..
Yes, it definitely increases operating costs and parking seems to be a nationwide issue. I think ultimately it's still better to have your own trailer considering depreciation and tax advantages, as well as the considerably higher gross revenue.
That's not true either on the insurance why are you so down on power only loads when I can make double or triple my money on power only loads easily
I'm glad it's working out for you. I'm not saying it's not a good way to go. It just doesn't work for most people. However with that said, it does work for some.
Are you referring to ALL Power Only loads or specifically load outs?
Most power only loads are load outs. Tow aways are much more rare.
There are ways to make power only work slightly better if you pick up and deliver in large cities but it still won't help with the loss of at least a couple of days on PU/S0, deadheading, and liability issues.
Alfredo, I dont think he knows there is a difference. As you know there are three types of power only, load out, tow away and power only. Picking up a preloaded trailer hook n drop, is an easy way to make money. Listening to his rates they sound very average at best. I did notice that he was not sharing the deadhead numbers, and only giving you the gross.
@John Turner, I certainly know the difference. A tow away type of load is quite rare for one to count on it on a consistent basis, I'm sure you're aware. Load outs are much more common and sometimes we're able to get trailers for up to 2 weeks which helps a lot. What is this third type of "power only" you're referring to outside of tow aways and load outs? As to the deadhead miles, we show deadhead miles on many of our videos but not always. It takes a lot of time to calculate those. I will tell you that most of our deadheading is quite low at 10% - 15% of total miles.
@@AFTDispatch You have load outs(empty and can load) Tow Away (empty and cannot load), and power only where you are hauling preloaded trailers like a tow away only they are typically loaded with freight making them a hook and drop. They are plentiful and usually pay well. I run power only exclusively, I average between 2.50 and 3.50 for all my miles loaded and empty. I almost NEVER have to sit at the dock getting loaded or unloaded and I have not spent ONE PENNY on owning or maintaining a trailer. Its just wrong to tell people to say no to power only, just because it does not serve your self interest.
@John Turner - power only is a market, the largest market there is. A Tow Away is generally a preloaded trailer. They're almost never empty. So ultimately there are two types, a load out and a tow away. As to the rest of your comment, why would it not serve us? We make the same amount of money. We tell people to stay away from power only for the reasons explained in the video. Lots of deadheading, wasted time, having to take loads you don't want just to deliver the trailer, additional liability, insurance, potentially bad trailers, and other issues. Would you disagree? Maybe you ought to watch the video again if you missed those points.
Hi i just watch and listen your video i have a question do you work with brand new drivers; if yes was the percentage per load you charge or you do weekly charge please let me know am learning and planning on get my CDL thanks.
It really depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking to lease on, then you need 2 years of experience. If you have your own authority, then just 30 days. If you prefer, call me at (801) 447-6929 and I'll be more than happy to go over everything with you.
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@@AFTDispatch I have the number on file thank you very much i just need to make a little time to call you i will soon thanks again.
You're very welcome! Let's catch up when you're ready.
Okay I hear this guy talking about what the loads paying per mile but what about the fuel surcharge
What about the fuel surcharge? 99/100 brokers have all in pricing. Even if every broker gave fuel surcharge on every single load, they lower the agreed on rate by the same dollar amount as the fuel surcharge and then add it back in. How does that help anyone? You get the same money.
Normally I get brand new trailers
Very often the trailers are brand new but often they are not. When you deal with a lot of companies and lots of trailers, you begin to run into problems. We've seen trailers with bad brakes, bad tires, damaged frames, and other issues. That can turn into an expensive claim for the carrier. I'm glad you've had good luck.
And if you're smart you will ask to get paid for those dead head miles there's always extra money to be had
Do you do safty compliance?
We sure do. As a leased on owner operator, you'll be taken care of by our staff.
@@AFTDispatch what about safety compliance for people who have their own MC and hire owner operators?
We're able to help depending on the fleet size. If you'd like we can discuss all of the details on Monday.
My direct line is (801) 447-6929
I might have to get in contact with you
Please do. My direct line is (801) 447-6929 call or text.
Vitaliy
Usually I don't deadhead for power onlys or loadouts I find something close to me and I usually negotiate a higher rate because there are brokers that will pay a higher rate and that means that will guarantee they get their trailer sooner not 100% guarantee but it's like maybe a 75% guarantee that I'll be able to get it to them sooner cuz they paid me more at least that's how I do it but you have to stipulate that it's always a negotiation
Thanks George, great insight. Something to keep in mind is that they don't usually care to have their trailer. This is why many of them will allow you to hold onto the PO trailer longer for a $50/day penalty. I'm not saying you can't make money in power only trucking, just that you can make more money and much more consistently when you have a trailer. Every load you see in our videos is someone who has a trailer, whether their own or a rental.
What’s your cut?
Depends on what you're looking for. If running under your own MC, then it's 7% and if leasing on it's 12% plus deductions.
@@AFTDispatch thanks
Power only bettter nothing
No doubt about it. Power only is certainly better than nothing.
This is why I don't listen to the so-called expert this guy is completely wrong. I made over 240,000 last year running power only. Don't listen to these guys that are trying to talk you into leasing on with them and they want to control the truck that you bought it's all Bs
A donkey with a cart could've made that in last year's market. At least look at the date of publication.
No one proclaimed to be an expert. As to talking people into doing something, no one is forced to lease on and we also work with carriers so it doesn't matter to us one way or another.
How much money are you making now in Power Only. Who cares about last year's inflated numbers. Or did you get a trailer?
I hope you have a better day.
Which company do you work with for power only I'm trying to find a good company I have my own authority
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Power only load pay like crap!! I did power only before I got a trailer and man it was a big difference in pay!!
It's a huge difference and this is why we're not fans of power only. We recently began working with some power only carriers only because we want to be able to help them make something rather than nothing. It's tough right now with the trailer shortages. You can see in our recent videos that we've done quite well for them. One carrier hit nearly $13,500 running power only. It's obviously not the best way to go but I'd much rather they make this than sit around wasting their time during this hot freight market.
I like power only but overall good video
Appreciate the comment Kevin. Glad Power Only is working out for you. It's definitely not for everyone. You just be a very organized type of person.
I guess this is more geography based. I'm in wv and there are quite a few power only opportunities but it involves moving company owned trailers to company specified destinations. And the trailer load outs you hardly see. If it was my job to deliver someone else's trailer I wouldn't feel comfortable using it.
@Mike Spradling it really geography based. You have to run where there is industry. Load outs are okay if you take what you can get and shoot for a higher average knowing there will be more bobtailing involved.
And I never did load outs I would only pick preloaded trailers straight to the destination drop it get head to my next one and I'll always get paid for your dead head
I Don’t even truck
No you file a claim
Not sure what you're referring to here.
Bullshit I make a lot of money PO without using dispatch
I speak with a lot of people and some do make good money with PO. I'm glad you're one of those people.
Most of the time, when we get into the details, it comes out that they run regional, barely put on any miles, and the "a lot of money" they claim isn't much at all.
I'm glad you're doing well. Please keep in mind that PO slows down during the winter and this is exactly what we're seeing now.
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Thank you!
You talk like deadhead is .... is a part of business it real unrealistic to fing a load under 10 milez all the time you never been a driver i xan tell
It sounds to me like you need to watch that video again. You completely missed the message. This is actually exactly what I'm saying...that it's part of doing business and unrealistic to find a load under 10 miles all the time.