gotta love how this doesn't really change the game but gives the player hints to change the outcome of the game,way smarter than if just changes to a different cinematic
Kinda similar to the Dark Pictures: Man of Medan where if you collect the right documents you will get an in game conversation putting together details that there’s this hallucinogenic gas in there air that causes you to see crazy scary shit for a while till you inevitably get slain by heart attack or something it wasn’t clear on that part
@@rps215 yeah but appart of that being meta,there could be different reason of how he escaped, and when you have to take the shot you start to think of the memo,kravchenko shit,hudson acting weird,and "where is mason" that makes you take the decision of not shooting him Without them a lot of people would just shoot to the head
@@rps215 that’s something lost people overlook hell even in the future when you play as farid and can kill Menendez he’s the main villain he can’t die now
The only unexplained part is where he is apparently killed in Panama in the first part when Woods threw a grenade at him which also killed his sister. At least they never show his body. Of course Menendez is second only to Makarov in CoD series for being the biggest Hero Killer and almost invincible villain.
I've always really liked the Black Ops 2 campaign, and I've seen a lot of videos about changing details, but after 11 years of the game, I NEVER watched this one. Good job!
I wish we could achieve a secret good ending if we acquire all of these evidences. Mason and Woods flushes out and kills Menendez, arrests Noriega, saves little David "Section" and Hudson would probably getting court martialed. And an achievement pops "Problem solved, Series over".
@@RussellAdlerCIAI don't think Hudson was a mole, I believe the reason he's doing what he's doing in this particular mission is because he was captured very early on by Menendez and was basically forced to walk his men into an ambush and get Mason killed.
Black Ops 2 is such a crazy well thought out game in the campaign. Like I never knew Harpers face wouldn't get burned if you drove a certain path and such till replaying it a few times. It doesn't change anything really, other then some dialogue, but it's just such a neat detail.
He also does voice Masaru Watase in the English dub of Yakuza: Like A Dragon, and Like A Dragon: Gaiden, along with Takaaki Matsunaga other voices in Like A Dragon 8: Infinite Wealth. Meanwhile, Treyarch doesn't recast him.
To be honest, while finding the memo gives you a better clue, it's more cooler if you don't find it, because Mason pausing and not saying anything until after the screen goes dark is more ominous.
@@Wallbangedbyme That's one clue. The other clue is the CIA memo from this video. Both clues together should have guaranteed to the player (That pays attention to dialogue) to spare Mason. But for most, Wood's dialogue option alone would've been enough.
@TechnoLegends It sure as hell didn't help me when I first played it. But tbf, I was a dumb 10 y/o kid who played it thinking it was a mindless action game. I found the hints but never paid attention to dialogue and man, the consequences of my actions changed me. This game became the reason why I pay attention to every detail in any game I play now. It gave me every hint it could and I ignored them all and suffered for it. During that music sequence and Woods being confused, I slowly picked up what was being laid down and when it revealed Mason, I was completely floored and mentally scarred; for a kid to kill their favorite protagonist in a game like that changed my way of playing single player games forever.
This is the call of duty campaign that I want remastered the most. I played the hell out of the BO2 campaign when I was younger and it’s still one of my favorites to this day
I know the term “last good COD” gets thrown around all the time but this is the last one where it feels like they really tried to deliver an amazing single player experience. Since Black Ops 2, it feels like the COD games have just been coasting and haven’t really tried to innovate or push the boat out. Hell, they’re now just retreading old ground in the newer titles.
Ghost was pretty good, but that shit ending was absolute garbage. ‘Now you become the villain and history repeats’ just wtf, especially when your character knows the story so technically isn’t going through the same thing, just WTF. 🙄 but anyhow, enjoyed the story like previous CoDs (not like BO2 though) and the alien mode was so much better than the zombies imo. I wish they had done the Ghost 2 for that cliffhanger and one more aliens mode at least.
Why is that I feel that Treyarch is able to make authentic Spanisk speaking soldiers compared to Infinity Ward? Despite Alejandro and Valeria and, Treyarch to me still takes the cake in this department.
They also sounded competent and knew exactly what they were doing, not some bumbling henchmen from a TV show, but ruthless contract killers who were getting a job done.
Woods literally tells you in game to search before they burn the place to search the CIA Memo so you search for it and also you need to resist to get Kravchenko's intel by clicking the button. EVERY single THING was GUIDED by the Game Itself. Idk why people still think it doesn't make sense that Alex Mason lives. For me, it does make sense and also when you boot up BO2 game, you get the first scene of Alex Mason doesn't have any scratch in his head I mean come on. Kravchenko's voice can dsitract him from shooting well. I'm sure Treyarch are hiding something, we need for now to wait future seasons, ee references maybe in safehouse or post credit game or somewhere else and assume he is presumed dead.
If Mason shoots Kravchenko and if you find the CIA file in "Time and Fate", Woods will mention the CIA memo instead and Mason will reply with "Theres something else going on here, Woods."
@@Alright9871 it was Hudson, the end game was to kill Mason and let David(and Woods) feel the pain that Menendez felt. That's why he had David there in the first place. Hudson was no longer useful
@@johnsteves9158 Hudson lead the capture on menendez it makes no sense for him to be the mole at the end of cold wars story stitch brainwashed adler but the brainwashing was never really broken it makes more sense if it's adler and for him to go rogue also in warzone rn you can see posters say adler is wanted for crimes against the United states and the casualties of US soldiers one most likely is mason
Can you do a video of the different dialogue if you did or didn’t find every piece of intel, I know it’ll take some time but I can never find all of them
The United States always has ulterior motives. Hudson was a bad ass in BO1, but I agreed with Woods not liking him. A CIA dude getting installed/attached to your squad is big sus imo.
I love this campaign so much but what holds it back is that it’s a cod campaign. There’s only flesh level story telling and so when something like the cia memo mystery and the ending where mason is still alive pops up, I get irritated because there details I will never get from the game. We really need a comic, book, or short video that explores those fine details. Zombies and the original ghost got comics so why not Alex mason
In that first room in the vid, there is a gun on the shelf, just too high to get a good look at, but from the little look I was able to get as a kid I was never able to tell what it was. Wasn't a playable gun anywhere in the game from what I could tell
I hated this in the bo2 campaign. If you restrained killing kravencko and found the memo it made no difference to the game. Same thing if you wanted the best ending. Your whole team had to die essentially. Harper had to die to save Farid. Farid had to die to save karma. And Menendez had to live to save the world.
Okay so there's something I've been thinking about for a decade now and I still couldn't find an answer. I'm sorry it's not about the video's topic. When Menendez is interrogated, he said that he will only talk to David, and when Menendez captures Salazar, he said "You know I won't hurt you, David...". Why does Menendez.. somewhat care about David and doesn't want to hurt him?
I hate what they did to Hudson’s character dude was a fuckin ice cube turned traitor but is was due to them having section. Idk what they were trying to do
Well, real life isn’t any different. People who serve in combat are seen as heroes, but the same people we call heroes have done terrible things in combat just to survive.
I love the aesthetic of the black ops games, and their stories, but certain gameplay elements and sounds (too general to single out) mean I have to give it to IW. You honestly cannot beat the OG Modern warfare and Modern warfare 2.
(For those wondering, they have confirmed that BO6 takes places after the mason-menendez encounter and woods is dealing with the guilt of killing Mason, and of course he’s in a wheelchair.)
It’s mere existence in menendezs compound is what it was about I’m not sure why they didn’t look inside the document but the fact that it’s nestled safely in menendezs home base was suspicious enough
Probably just a something about the CIA's findings on Menendez. As necfreon said, Menendez having it instead of it being filed in a CIA evidence room is proof enough that Menendez may have moles.
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gotta love how this doesn't really change the game but gives the player hints to change the outcome of the game,way smarter than if just changes to a different cinematic
Kinda similar to the Dark Pictures: Man of Medan where if you collect the right documents you will get an in game conversation putting together details that there’s this hallucinogenic gas in there air that causes you to see crazy scary shit for a while till you inevitably get slain by heart attack or something it wasn’t clear on that part
There are already one big hint for the player, Menendez is alive in Section's scenario so you cannot possibly eliminate Menendez in the past.
@@rps215 yeah but appart of that being meta,there could be different reason of how he escaped, and when you have to take the shot you start to think of the memo,kravchenko shit,hudson acting weird,and "where is mason" that makes you take the decision of not shooting him
Without them a lot of people would just shoot to the head
@@rps215 that’s something lost people overlook hell even in the future when you play as farid and can kill Menendez he’s the main villain he can’t die now
The only unexplained part is where he is apparently killed in Panama in the first part when Woods threw a grenade at him which also killed his sister. At least they never show his body. Of course Menendez is second only to Makarov in CoD series for being the biggest Hero Killer and almost invincible villain.
I've always really liked the Black Ops 2 campaign, and I've seen a lot of videos about changing details, but after 11 years of the game, I NEVER watched this one. Good job!
@Skinny Legend I was also wondering why no one talked about this earlier, the CIA Memo as a hint of Menendez planning something horrible.
Black ops 2 it's the ultimate camping. Even the secundary missions give you a lot of intel/lore of the game, multiple finals, multiple choices.
Why don’t you like the campaign?
@@berlinwallneverfall1989he said he liked it
I wish we could achieve a secret good ending if we acquire all of these evidences. Mason and Woods flushes out and kills Menendez, arrests Noriega, saves little David "Section" and Hudson would probably getting court martialed.
And an achievement pops "Problem solved, Series over".
That’s not really a good ending with Hudson getting court martialed and the moles still in the CIA
@@Deathmare235 Idk, what would happen to Hudson? Btw there are other moles than Hudson?
@@RussellAdlerCIA idk give hudson retirement he deserves it also about the moles they still need to get them I’m assuming they’ll be in bogw
@@RussellAdlerCIAI don't think Hudson was a mole, I believe the reason he's doing what he's doing in this particular mission is because he was captured very early on by Menendez and was basically forced to walk his men into an ambush and get Mason killed.
@@Deathmare235 Hudson probably had his family captured as well and was forced. Menendez likely had other moles above Hudson that were never revealed.
Black Ops 2 is such a crazy well thought out game in the campaign. Like I never knew Harpers face wouldn't get burned if you drove a certain path and such till replaying it a few times. It doesn't change anything really, other then some dialogue, but it's just such a neat detail.
@elcactuar3354cry 💀
@elcactuar3354 cry 💀
@@ir0316cry 💀
@@vitobucatini51cry💀
Or we could, ya know, not cry?
god i wish the VA for woods had more roles, he's such a good fucking character
He also does voice Masaru Watase in the English dub of Yakuza: Like A Dragon, and Like A Dragon: Gaiden, along with Takaaki Matsunaga other voices in Like A Dragon 8: Infinite Wealth. Meanwhile, Treyarch doesn't recast him.
@@gamingsergeant6632wouldn't expect James C. Burns to be in a yakuza game of all things
He does lots of stuff but usually smaller roles in TV and movies. He's also a musician and writes music man's actually INCREDIBLY busy
To be honest, while finding the memo gives you a better clue, it's more cooler if you don't find it, because Mason pausing and not saying anything until after the screen goes dark is more ominous.
just watched your outlasting a outlast griefer video and now i find a comment you made a year ago! crazy lol
@@FranciscoOrtiz-q3b Damn that is crazy 😅
@@J_C_CHi didn't expect to see you here 😂
@@agua246 Small world eh? Lol
Would have been great if finding it changes things
It does, for first time players. These were all clues to not shoot Mason in the head
@TechnoLegends woods says that if you resist shooting him in the interrogation
@@Wallbangedbyme That's one clue. The other clue is the CIA memo from this video. Both clues together should have guaranteed to the player (That pays attention to dialogue) to spare Mason. But for most, Wood's dialogue option alone would've been enough.
@TechnoLegends It sure as hell didn't help me when I first played it. But tbf, I was a dumb 10 y/o kid who played it thinking it was a mindless action game. I found the hints but never paid attention to dialogue and man, the consequences of my actions changed me. This game became the reason why I pay attention to every detail in any game I play now. It gave me every hint it could and I ignored them all and suffered for it. During that music sequence and Woods being confused, I slowly picked up what was being laid down and when it revealed Mason, I was completely floored and mentally scarred; for a kid to kill their favorite protagonist in a game like that changed my way of playing single player games forever.
@@technolegends306 or the fact that Menendez was alive in the future and was hunted by Section. That would also be a big clue.
This is the call of duty campaign that I want remastered the most. I played the hell out of the BO2 campaign when I was younger and it’s still one of my favorites to this day
YESSIR and its story and multi both rocked!
@@Stinger913you left out zombies you are not a true gamer
Be careful what you wish for. Companies can’t even properly remaster nowadays, it would be trash
Man I want BO1 and BO2 remastered so badly
@@ewaysrevengeTrue, they messed up the MW2 remaster so badly
“Call your boss “😁😁 woods:👊🤛”put your ass in a chair 🪑
That look will haunt me for the years to come. What the heck was that face
Going back to the game and discovering that was a hell of a gem.
Fun Fact,if you kill Kravchenko and don't let woods kill him,the Intel doesn't appear
If you mean the cia memo then your dead wrong otherwise you’re correct
Why would that be?
@@the_jones528 I think it might be for getting the best ending. Who knows
No it appears regardless, it's the info from kravchenko that you could be missing for this dialouge
@@the_jones528 Maybe because of what he said about cia being compromised
I know the term “last good COD” gets thrown around all the time but this is the last one where it feels like they really tried to deliver an amazing single player experience. Since Black Ops 2, it feels like the COD games have just been coasting and haven’t really tried to innovate or push the boat out. Hell, they’re now just retreading old ground in the newer titles.
Ghost was pretty good, but that shit ending was absolute garbage. ‘Now you become the villain and history repeats’ just wtf, especially when your character knows the story so technically isn’t going through the same thing, just WTF.
🙄 but anyhow, enjoyed the story like previous CoDs (not like BO2 though) and the alien mode was so much better than the zombies imo. I wish they had done the Ghost 2 for that cliffhanger and one more aliens mode at least.
Idk, Infinite Warfare seems like their last great attempt at single player modes. It and Black Ops 3 really showered single players with content.
@@channel45853 and AW's campaign was fun, multiplayer not so much
Modern Warfare 1 and 2, as well as Black Ops Cold War had amazing campaigns
@@PotatoBullets115 not amazing just good. They don’t have the same flair in terms of writing and the endings of Cold War are lack luster.
Why is that I feel that Treyarch is able to make authentic Spanisk speaking soldiers compared to Infinity Ward? Despite Alejandro and Valeria and, Treyarch to me still takes the cake in this department.
They also sounded competent and knew exactly what they were doing, not some bumbling henchmen from a TV show, but ruthless contract killers who were getting a job done.
im mexican myself valeria and alejandro have an authentic mexican accent and the slang valeria uses is authentic.
1:10 this part always makes me laugh
WOW. i had no idea any of this could happen. this seems so minor but its genuinely mind-shattering to me. i am boggled.
I'm just now realizing the subtitles say False Profit not False Prophet lol
I love when games acknowledge the collectibles you find
If u alert the MQ DRONE and hide in the mission fallen angel , Harper will destroy it by shooting it down.
Yep and the second one won’t spawn in either.
Bruh nothing will hide from this guy in call of duty
But why?😞
Woods literally tells you in game to search before they burn the place to search the CIA Memo so you search for it and also you need to resist to get Kravchenko's intel by clicking the button. EVERY single THING was GUIDED by the Game Itself. Idk why people still think it doesn't make sense that Alex Mason lives. For me, it does make sense and also when you boot up BO2 game, you get the first scene of Alex Mason doesn't have any scratch in his head I mean come on.
Kravchenko's voice can dsitract him from shooting well.
I'm sure Treyarch are hiding something, we need for now to wait future seasons, ee references maybe in safehouse or post credit game or somewhere else and assume he is presumed dead.
Glad I rewound my story to Time And Fate and grabbed the memo so that Mason says that line every time in Suffer With Me
I never heard this, I never knew there WAS a CIA memo In the compound
Great content! also vid suggestion. Ranking of EVERY cod game.
good job man and you are great and do all ending and keep going
This makes Mason surviving much more believable to me. It’s got to be the canon ending. Woods even knew something was up
Ive played this game for TEN YEARS and never new about this!
Bro really said "call your boss 😏"
Woods be like: Shut your f*ckin' mouth, wipe that smirk and put your ass in the 🪑.
"call your boss🤓" ahh
BO2's campaign was awesome.
wow! i never knew this! why didn’t they make an alternate ending and make it be the canon ending? it would have been so much better
If Mason shoots Kravchenko and if you find the CIA file in "Time and Fate", Woods will mention the CIA memo instead and Mason will reply with "Theres something else going on here, Woods."
So this is part of incoming Black Ops 2024, Raul Menendez has a mole in CIA either Hudson or Adler
Which one of them do you think is the mole?
Why would menendez kill Hudson if he was the mole?? It has to be adler
@@Alright9871 it was Hudson, the end game was to kill Mason and let David(and Woods) feel the pain that Menendez felt. That's why he had David there in the first place.
Hudson was no longer useful
@@johnsteves9158 Hudson lead the capture on menendez it makes no sense for him to be the mole at the end of cold wars story stitch brainwashed adler but the brainwashing was never really broken it makes more sense if it's adler and for him to go rogue also in warzone rn you can see posters say adler is wanted for crimes against the United states and the casualties of US soldiers one most likely is mason
Can you do a video of the different dialogue if you did or didn’t find every piece of intel, I know it’ll take some time but I can never find all of them
I didn’t think about looking through the compound😖 when I first played this game
Next vid: times when hudson is acting strange
I wish they go to Operation Charybdis campaign with BO2.
But well, what's done is done.
Cant believe hudson was working with Adler and how there was people in the CIA working for them
Ah i miss the old cod, where the characters dont use thier PTT and talk through thier collars or press a button in thier earpiece
So, video games using real life combat communications- bothers you? That’s all I’m getting from this.
Figuring out small things like this in the campaign just to change the overall story felt so damn good
The CIA memo and Hudson mentioning that they used to have tvs from the first game were cool Easter eggs
i never ever knew about this until now
after all these years i never knew this existed
This all leads into Bo6
100% woods will betray the CIA, based upon what we saw in the beta
you forgot that cod is propaganda
@@HKIHNDKNSIJust played the Bo6 campaign, turns out I was right
why is the comment I just replied to deleted then
@@HKIHNDKNSI Idk what you’re talking about
I didn't know the game had more hints for Suffer with me. Im still seeing new stuff in this game bruh.
It's weird so hear Mason talking very low and not scream.
I'm on the suffer with me mission, can I go out and redo Time and Fate and get the cia memo ??
The United States always has ulterior motives. Hudson was a bad ass in BO1, but I agreed with Woods not liking him. A CIA dude getting installed/attached to your squad is big sus imo.
CIA has always been like this, though. It’s not fiction.
All this time, and I never noticed you could do that.
It's nice to see COD black ops 2 coming back
Sooner or later when COD BO6 is released, we gonna find out who is the mole in CIA.
I’m guessing it was meant to be found for the ending where Alex lives
MASON!
Found one about the black ops 2 story I’ve never seen before this game was amazing absolutely loved it.
I love this campaign so much but what holds it back is that it’s a cod campaign. There’s only flesh level story telling and so when something like the cia memo mystery and the ending where mason is still alive pops up, I get irritated because there details I will never get from the game. We really need a comic, book, or short video that explores those fine details. Zombies and the original ghost got comics so why not Alex mason
In that first room in the vid, there is a gun on the shelf, just too high to get a good look at, but from the little look I was able to get as a kid I was never able to tell what it was. Wasn't a playable gun anywhere in the game from what I could tell
Probably just a duplicate of the other guns on the shelves, but maybe bugged in some way.
I looked around for the memo in that location, and let woods kill Kravchenko, but it’s not where it should be
I’ll make sure to get the CIA memo when I play Black Ops 2. I’m planning on getting the best ending for BO2.
After all these years I never knew until now 🤯🤯🤯
Never managed to find the damn memo when i play this game years ago. At least i know where to go.
Maybe you were just too slow to find it, as it will burn if you don't get to it in time .
I really love BO2's attention to detail.
If i remember correctly, you have to let Mason kill Krav in the dessert mission or the memo won't spawn
In all my life I NEVER knew this existed
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I was right. What a nice little detail.
I hated this in the bo2 campaign. If you restrained killing kravencko and found the memo it made no difference to the game. Same thing if you wanted the best ending. Your whole team had to die essentially. Harper had to die to save Farid. Farid had to die to save karma. And Menendez had to live to save the world.
Just shoot the guy before he gets away with Karma.
Canon Ending is actually really sad tbh: Harper dies, Karma Dies, Menendez Killed, Alex Mason Dead🥲
I will stand by Black Ops 2 having the best plot due to the players ability to affect it.
Okay so there's something I've been thinking about for a decade now and I still couldn't find an answer. I'm sorry it's not about the video's topic. When Menendez is interrogated, he said that he will only talk to David, and when Menendez captures Salazar, he said "You know I won't hurt you, David...". Why does Menendez.. somewhat care about David and doesn't want to hurt him?
I hate what they did to Hudson’s character dude was a fuckin ice cube turned traitor but is was due to them having section. Idk what they were trying to do
Also Menendez probably had Hudson's familly as hostages. Hudson got the shit end of the stick
Well, real life isn’t any different. People who serve in combat are seen as heroes, but the same people we call heroes have done terrible things in combat just to survive.
What if you kill Kravchenko but found the memo ?
Just wanted to ask your pc specs
wow remember when black ops actually felt like ‘black ops’?
I never seen this before alsome upload bro
This game was so ahead of it's time too:(
I really need to get this game…
I love the aesthetic of the black ops games, and their stories, but certain gameplay elements and sounds (too general to single out) mean I have to give it to IW. You honestly cannot beat the OG Modern warfare and Modern warfare 2.
Having hitmarkers in campaigns should be illegal
False Profit lmao
Never knew this and I’ve been playing since day 1
Cool video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Me too.
İ found it the first time, then the second time when i did the same thing, i didnt saw the document again
Love this game and its story
12 months ago 😂
Im still wating some videos about the strike missions bruv
What would have been in the cia memo?
I got no Idea when i find this XD,until i Saw this
What did the evidence contain ? Like yeah we know it’s about Hudson but any specs?
Black Ops 2 wasn't the best COD but the campaign was excellent. It didn't feel as linear as the others
That’s because it wasn’t. It was the first COD game to have multiple choices during the campaign, and multiple endings based on what the player did.
Oooh, something I missed
Good game, but i didn't like the 2025 missions as much as alex and woods missions. The first missions were fire 🔥
Glad I did all that to get the perfect ending like 10 times over just for Activision to make that ending non-canon. SMH😔
(For those wondering, they have confirmed that BO6 takes places after the mason-menendez encounter and woods is dealing with the guilt of killing Mason, and of course he’s in a wheelchair.)
Which version of Ghost is your favorite? Im in a mix with old mw2 and new mw2
and the game still costs 60$ on steam wtf.
If Manuel Noriega fell?
Anybody else thought the m16 looks way too small when they get Noriega?
pantheon
What is this CIA memo about?
It’s mere existence in menendezs compound is what it was about I’m not sure why they didn’t look inside the document but the fact that it’s nestled safely in menendezs home base was suspicious enough
Probably just a something about the CIA's findings on Menendez. As necfreon said, Menendez having it instead of it being filed in a CIA evidence room is proof enough that Menendez may have moles.
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@@necfreon6259 they definitely looked inside there’s no reason they wouldn’t my guess is it was redacted
@@korsan4954 nothing about Noriega
Is Russell addler
Never found that file
DAMMMM
Right about the time I start spraying the death machine