I agree Harper is a great character but I hate the choice we’re we have to kill him. I like how they made a mason and woods with David and Harper. Because without Harper it’s just boring not having him around and I believe Harper been watching too much starship troopers.
Despite him looking like a character from another video game franchise obviously army of two the cod developer and publisher literally promised their own fanbase community and audience that he was supposed to be the successor to another character who appeared in 5 cod titles and yes I’ve counted black ops declassified because who cares and this character did not go out in a blaze of glory it’s such a mean spirited and pointless death of him being shot down dragged interrogated punched and shot in the head for a cold blooded execution and everybody especially his own allies just left him in the street like a torn off expensive dollar note and everything that was given to the character such as box art marketing promos magazines etc was all for nothing the cod developers and publishers established that salazar was in cod mobile by the way so it was suckered in that he was brainwashed since the beginning and both him and david just forgave each other after the events of bo2
The sad thing is you have to kill him to get the good ending because if Harper survives Achilles veil and Farid dies instead, then karma is screwed either way if Salazar or DeFalco kills her
@@BOATIE141 yeah but on a character that had so much potential only to be thrown away like trash for no reason they literally put this character in everything in the game such as magazines marketing promos etc with the main character that the ENTIRE GAME WAS BUILT AROUND and it was all for nothing because what we got is a bait and switch if this game gets remastered or remaked whatever they need to make this character the main playable or coop character as a sign of apology
He gives you some great advice in judgement day. “I vote kill, capture didn’t work out last time.” And with him alive, capturing Menendez leads to the WORST ending, the one where woods dies
Yeah and you seriously don’t need harper for the rest of the game he doesn’t have his own ending which was a huge disappointment and a salt on the wound and they bait and switch and wasted a perfectly good character
if chloe lives and menendez lives and you complete all the strike force missions you get an ending where menendez doesnt escape custody. harper has to be shot by farid for him to live and sacrifice himself for chloe, however.
@@pimpdaddyslayer470 yeah and everybody knows the best ending is the only one that was satisfying and justified the others are just not satisfying and justified and the fact that they literally put the character in marketing promos etc only for the character to be bait and switched for no reason and never heard or mentioned again just shows cod developers and publishers deception like how and why did they got away with it scot free is just baffling
As cool as Harper is, the best ending requires sacrifices. I hate having to do it, but the amount of lives saved by doing so is well worth it. The best ending was the one at the greatest cost to ourselves, but I feel it's worth it. Harper would understand, I'm sure of it.
I’ve imagined people who first played this game after they watched the E3 trailer screaming out curse words such as huge f words when they got to this level without him and seeing the first scene from the E3 trailer and they just quit the game and got a refund because that was false advertising at its finest and they covered it up and get away scot free I mean seriously when have you ever played a game were it’s nothing like the E3 trailer and one of the characters that was displayed in got removed before the trailer it I even compare this to the last of us 2 because if you compare them it’s almost the same except character models were swapped out rather than removed
@@Cthulhuwarlord yeah and compare this to the last of us 2 were joel wasn’t there but jessie it’s almost the same but the character model was swapped rather than removed false advertising at its finest
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Harper knew exactly what you meant. He was telling Farid to shoot him and not blow his cover. He was ready to die to ensure success.
@@TsunamiRecRoom ur so bro really think he carti literally hitting the griddy the ocky way kai Cenat fanum tax garten of banban no edging in class not the mosquito again bussing axel in Harlem whopper whopper whopper whoppr
He should’ve been the main playable or coop character in the first place because the way he outranks the main character really baffles everyone including me
After killing Harper the game just feels so.. empty and lonely Curse the developers for making his death needed for the perfect ending, good storytelling hurts the hardest.
@@occam7382one of the biggest bait and switches in gaming history I know they literally gave everything on the character for nothing and believe me I’ve seen it happen to other video game franchises and perhaps tv shows and movies as well
@@occam7382 it makes other games for example mgs2 Batman Arkham origins and the last of us 2 look good by comparison with their bait and switching and false advertising
There was also a badass moment in Cordis Die where Harper climbs onto a hostile CLAW, and takes it down singlehandedly. If Harper is gone, that same CLAW will be ours to fight.
I never played this one. Bold of them to have a character that can be killed out of the story so early leaving so many scenes different with and without him.
And to add more salt on the wound the E3 trailer was misleading doesn’t have his own ending and you seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game and everything that was given to the character was all for nothing
Yeah and also do you know how frustrating humiliating and annoying it feels nowadays seeing cod characters who were just introduced in the games box art marketing promos magazines etc dying early or late in the same game they just came in like novak from cod vanguard and that world at war us marine sergeant jack Bauer from 24 and please don’t get me started on the characters on modern warfare and Cold War
It’s sad because you have to kill Harper to get the good ending in black ops 2 and he helps a lot and he’s badass especially after Achilles’ viel or whatever the mission is called
@@GenuineGuitar56yeah and worse doesn’t have his own ending and it’s one of the worst bait and switches in gaming history and they got away with it scot free
@usadroopymeat1099 it's probobly for the best that you sacrifice harper, think about it. Section gets more leaderlike, you keep Farid and karma alive (that is if you save karma and keep defalco alive) eventually Farid will save karma, end defalco and the worm will be cracked
@@GenuineGuitar56 yeah and this is not cod 3 were corporal Keith the Scottish soldier orders the main character who is a Sargent or corporal church from cod finest hour and others
I haven't seen these versions of the cutscenes in a long time. Always went with the good ending (with Alex in the grave as the exception) for my preferred ending after that first run.
@@Captain_Redfield I mean have you ever played a game were a character was in marketing promos box art magazines etc only for the character to be bait and switched and removed for no reason
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Not that I can recall, he genuinely felt like a brother and it's stupid that you are forced to kill him or you don't get the best ending.
@@Captain_Redfield yeah it’s like they got no respect for celebrities take bowman for example they all deserve better than being bait and switched for no reason how did not occur to everybody that this was false advertising and sometimes character assassination
@@AstolfoKaiokenX20 1. hes too marketable and popular to be gone(this video is a testimate to that) 2. in the official treyarch timeline video for black ops 1 and 2, harper is in frame for the poster image for the mission "cortis die" which is only way for that to be possible if it farid dies
@@Migueloultimododobecause if best ending was cannon that doesn’t really explain the things that happened in bo3 or when there was quote that one of characters said about menendez in bo3 saying that bastard got what he deserved or something like that and also in choice between shooting menendez or shooting harper if you don’t choose anything farid will automatically shoot menendez which i guess can be a point but doesn’t really prove if he is alive or dead
@@USADroopyMeat1099dude go find something else to do with your life besides spam comments about how upset you are with the developers decisions for the game
@@dennisscott6215 I am not with the developers decision okay and it’s just they wasted and botched the whole selling point and build up its like what was the point of call of duty since it was doomed from the very start
Mason coming back is awesome, but David having lived his whole life forging a brotherhood with Harper I think he’d be happier with his brother by his side than his father returning after almost 60 years.
I remember when you get the option to kill Harper or blow your cover. I know the developers meant it to be an agonising choice. Not gonna lie. I couldn’t have pressed that kill button quick enough.
fortunately(and unfortunately for lore's sake) harper will probably be alive in the sequel 1. hes too marketable and popular to be gone(this video is a testimate to that) 2. in the official treyarch timeline video for black ops 1 and 2, harper is in frame for the poster image for the mission "cortis die" which is only way for that to be possible if it farid dies
Yesh I like his character he cool also having around is good because in the end of missions last enemy he will aid you just you and him like brother he did call you that
Yeah and it’s a shame too because he should’ve been the main playable or coop character in the first place it pains me to watch a character that had so much potential only for a humiliating bait and switch and how did it not occur to everyone that this was false advertising and cod developers and publishers got away with it scot free
Or Elliot Salem from army of two just look at him doesn’t he look like he had a cousin and about what you said THATS WHAT THE CHARACTER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE because they literally put this character on every marketing every promo every magazine box art etc only to be a huge fat lie because what we got instead was a bait and switch that makes other games with bait and switching and false advertising look good or bad by comparison if this game gets remastered remaked whatever they must make this character the main playable or coop character as a sign of apology
@@PuNkD-j8u I am sorry it’s just I still have those wounds to this day because when I first saw this I felt cheated and robbed of my hard work and patience since I got this game after one of my days of school because I was told by everybody and everyone by cod developers and publishers about that this character was supposed to be a successor to another character in the prequel only in reality was nothing but a filler and disposable character that was literally in the games marketing promos etc and was all for nothing and I am enraged because of it I can see what they are going for but that’s enough cod characters deaths especially to this day we got cod characters deaths everywhere we go we got cod characters deaths all piled up in a mass grave okay we got all of them in our eyes and out of our ears okay anyway very disappointing that they promised everyone one of the plot points which includes the main character who’s last name is mason until cod developers and publishers went to a different direction during development and near the tail end of the campaign it enraged everyone including me and it’s a serious detriment alright
There's tutorials where you can glitch the campaign to get the best ending and still have Harper, they've been on YT for years now if you want to look it up.
@@StableDruid130I’ve felt sorry for the people who first played this game and I’ve imagined them screaming out curse words like f words when they go to the cordis die level without him especially at the first scene from the E3 trailer
I loved Harper too bc its Michael Rourke an under-rated actor. I always felt so bad that he got his face burned since I found out only after my first playthrough that you could stop it and I even tried to save him bc my first playthrough I didnt look anything up so I ended up not getting the best ending (I also shot Mason in the head bc who the hell could hav guessed to shoot him twice in the leg, I mean really🤨). On my second playthrough going for the best ending I still felt bad tho when I had to shoot him even tho I knew it was required to stop Raul and tons of other ppl died too so in the end at least Rourke's death saved Karma and saved ships full of other soldiers and sailors.
Well I did guess that we had to shoot him twice in the leg, my playthrough had evidence that the CIA was helping Menendez so Woods got suspicious therefore I knew I had to spare him
@@Nate_M_PCMR if you take the time to really think about what the documents you found in the drug lab say it might be a way to figure it out, just something about hearing shoot him in the head as Woods made me feel like that what you had to do. It was definitely as big if not bigger of a twist then not shooting Rourke tho, even with him saying do it and calling you egghead as a way to let him know he meant it and wasn't just talking to who you were suppose to be, but to who he knew you really were.
Yeah I even imagine people who first played this game screaming out massive f words when they got this to level without them they probably took the game back to get a refund I even compare this to the last of us 2 because the E3 trailers the bait and switch it’s almost the same
@@alessandrocanale6189 i already know cod developers and publishers nowadays had done worse things than ruining characters after they literally put them in marketing promos magazines box art etc but back then in 2012 they did the worse of them all they used a character as a disposable marketing tool and they thrown him away like a piece of trash for no reason how did it not occur to everyone that this was false advertising and character assassination and a huge disrespect to the celebrity behind the character
Harper makes it the best ending. Black ops 3 mentions Menendez, but says this is All thanks to him(weaponry) so maybe, just maybe Harper is canonically alive. BUT THATS JUST A THEORY
1:32 I hate if you have Harper you don’t feel this effect/the height the guy's fall. If you have Harper it’s like, “okay you kicked this guy out of the VTOL.” At least with out Harper you get to see how far the Merc falls to his death
It's harder to save karma or Harper so i didn't want to kill him but then i didn't know that glitch in oddyseus both of them are alive so above of two last levels can bring Harper with you
@usadroopymeat1099 Yeah I know, but Call Of Duty does a really good job at making sure the good guys do a job at upholding the Geneva Conventions, our Drill Sergeant surprisingly used them as references a lot, either to help with our situation, show how they got it right or because he was obsessed with it lol
Yep and they wasted a perfectly good character just bait and switch for no reason doesn’t have his own ending and everything they gave to the character was all for nothing he deserves better
It sucked that we have to kill harper to get the good ending, i feel like he was David's brother in arms much like Mason and woods, except harper at the beginning not only helped him during the campaign but he also helped David gain confidence to stand up in order to capture Menendez, but in the end his sacrifice was well worth it.
And it’s still a shame because it’s like they gave everything on the character for nothing and he should’ve been the main playable or coop character in the first place and all is forgiven from cod developers and publishers
Or remake whatever they must make this character the main playable or coop character as a sign of apology because what they’ve done to him when he was thrown away like trash and forgotten for no reason was sickening and disgraceful he deserves better
@@kyflysupreme7727 yeah I agree with you on that and like I said it pains me to see what the cod franchise has become since 2003 along with everything cod developers and publishers had done
One of the biggest lies letdowns and disappointments in gaming history it’s like it was all for nothing because they spent all of their effort time money and talent on a character that the entire future campaign was build around and they disposed him like a piece of trash for no reason
@@alphacodyt and the damage was already done to begin with you seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game doesn’t have his own ending Salazar was in cod mobile and everything that was given to the character was all for nothing #itwasallfornothing
I even compared this with the last of us 2 because of the infamous trailer were jessie was there instead of joel because if you compare those with others it’s a huge coincidence
I kept Harper alive on my first run b/c I loved Micheal Rooker in call of the dead then again in walking dead as Merle. Unfortunately I didn’t shoot Mason in the leg my first go and I let Farid, Karma and Briggs die and didn’t do the strike missions so I got the ending where Menendez kills Woods and I felt like shit so on my 2nd run I did everything right and when it came time to kill Harper. I just prepped myself for it and after I did it. I vowed to never kill him again
They literally put this character in everything and now it was all for nothing because you seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game no ending for him it’s like they have zero respect to celebrities which was disgusting who do they think cod developers and publishers think they are celebrities are expendible and their lives meant nothing to them very disrespectful to them they deserve better celebrities deserve better
you can’t. i did bug out the game i think because when replaying Odysseus (even when killing haper and defalco) they’re all present when Menéndez enters the bridge. the cutscene shows defalco knocking out karma, farid shooting defalco in the head, and then salazar killing farid. after that harper asks what happens and the regular gameplay happens
I never pick the choice where I have to kill him I always try to pick a different option. The best ending is required for you to sacrifice him, but I never do that. I rather sacrifice millions of people then to sacrifice a friend I’m not type of person I’m the type of person who write a sacrifice, millions of people then sacrifice a friend. I’m selfish. What are you gonna do about it
You seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game everything that was given to the character was all for nothing because he doesn’t have his own ending a huge lie In gaming history
And it sucks when Farid dies cuz Chloe gets killed too Edit: I mean, there's a glitch where you can bring him back, search "Call of duty black ops 2 Harper lives glitch"
How the hell is Karma alive? If Harper lives, Farid will not be there to protect Chloe from DeFalco or Menendez, thus she will die and Menendez's Cyber virus will end up destroying the world. This ending is impossible.
Harper: commits a war crime
Everyone: cool
Everything is a war crime
yes war crimes are based
Harper is overrated af tbh
@@sigmaswank7288 war crimes are just battlefield soyrage moments
American war crime especially the other coutry war crimes are garbage@@sigmaswank7288
I agree Harper is a great character but I hate the choice we’re we have to kill him. I like how they made a mason and woods with David and Harper. Because without Harper it’s just boring not having him around and I believe Harper been watching too much starship troopers.
And that’s the thing they lie to us just bait and switch their own fanbase and community
Despite him looking like a character from another video game franchise obviously army of two the cod developer and publisher literally promised their own fanbase community and audience that he was supposed to be the successor to another character who appeared in 5 cod titles and yes I’ve counted black ops declassified because who cares and this character did not go out in a blaze of glory it’s such a mean spirited and pointless death of him being shot down dragged interrogated punched and shot in the head for a cold blooded execution and everybody especially his own allies just left him in the street like a torn off expensive dollar note and everything that was given to the character such as box art marketing promos magazines etc was all for nothing the cod developers and publishers established that salazar was in cod mobile by the way so it was suckered in that he was brainwashed since the beginning and both him and david just forgave each other after the events of bo2
AKA the biggest lie in gaming history #itwasallfornothing
The sad thing is you have to kill him to get the good ending because if Harper survives Achilles veil and Farid dies instead, then karma is screwed either way if Salazar or DeFalco kills her
@@USADroopyMeat1099that belongs to Metal Gear Solid 2
4:30 “Cmon **** You wanna live forever” -Harper
#itwasallfornothing
@Alex.Mason.1933okay thanks is this one of those examples
It’s badass cause that was a quote said by a marine in WW2
@@BOATIE141 yeah but on a character that had so much potential only to be thrown away like trash for no reason they literally put this character in everything in the game such as magazines marketing promos etc with the main character that the ENTIRE GAME WAS BUILT AROUND and it was all for nothing because what we got is a bait and switch if this game gets remastered or remaked whatever they need to make this character the main playable or coop character as a sign of apology
@@USADroopyMeat1099you are doing too much
He gives you some great advice in judgement day. “I vote kill, capture didn’t work out last time.” And with him alive, capturing Menendez leads to the WORST ending, the one where woods dies
Yeah and you seriously don’t need harper for the rest of the game he doesn’t have his own ending which was a huge disappointment and a salt on the wound and they bait and switch and wasted a perfectly good character
if chloe lives and menendez lives and you complete all the strike force missions you get an ending where menendez doesnt escape custody. harper has to be shot by farid for him to live and sacrifice himself for chloe, however.
@@pimpdaddyslayer470 yeah and everybody knows the best ending is the only one that was satisfying and justified the others are just not satisfying and justified and the fact that they literally put the character in marketing promos etc only for the character to be bait and switched for no reason and never heard or mentioned again just shows cod developers and publishers deception like how and why did they got away with it scot free is just baffling
@@USADroopyMeat1099 we already know how you feel about the whole thing. We don’t feel the same way. So stop.
@@ABCD-nq3uf I know and this is one of those clear cut examples of video game bait and switching and false advertising
As cool as Harper is, the best ending requires sacrifices. I hate having to do it, but the amount of lives saved by doing so is well worth it. The best ending was the one at the greatest cost to ourselves, but I feel it's worth it. Harper would understand, I'm sure of it.
They should’ve made him the main playable or coop character in the first place and now look all for nothing
I’ve imagined people who first played this game after they watched the E3 trailer screaming out curse words such as huge f words when they got to this level without him and seeing the first scene from the E3 trailer and they just quit the game and got a refund because that was false advertising at its finest and they covered it up and get away scot free I mean seriously when have you ever played a game were it’s nothing like the E3 trailer and one of the characters that was displayed in got removed before the trailer it I even compare this to the last of us 2 because if you compare them it’s almost the same except character models were swapped out rather than removed
@@USADroopyMeat1099can’t you still get the same scene just have to not kill harper?
@@Cthulhuwarlord yeah and compare this to the last of us 2 were joel wasn’t there but jessie it’s almost the same but the character model was swapped rather than removed false advertising at its finest
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Harper knew exactly what you meant. He was telling Farid to shoot him and not blow his cover. He was ready to die to ensure success.
3:56 "I vote kill. Taking him alive didn't work out last time."
Why is this Harper line so funny to me?
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Cuz the last time he was captured alive he started ww5 😂😆
@dcamaro0173 Damn, people already started WW3 and WW4 by commenting?
@@TsunamiRecRoom ur so bro really think he carti literally hitting the griddy the ocky way kai Cenat fanum tax garten of banban no edging in class not the mosquito again bussing axel in Harlem whopper whopper whopper whoppr
@@TsunamiRecRoom Colleen ballinger Smurf cat vs strawberry elephant blud dawg shmlawg a whole bunch of turbulence ambatakum
Harper is that one funny badass uncle who has no time to lose.
He should’ve been the main playable or coop character in the first place because the way he outranks the main character really baffles everyone including me
After killing Harper the game just feels so.. empty and lonely
Curse the developers for making his death needed for the perfect ending, good storytelling hurts the hardest.
Indeed. Those bastards hit us right where it hurts the most.
Yeah I am with you on that they have no respect to celebrities take bowman for example
@@occam7382one of the biggest bait and switches in gaming history I know they literally gave everything on the character for nothing and believe me I’ve seen it happen to other video game franchises and perhaps tv shows and movies as well
@@occam7382 it makes other games for example mgs2 Batman Arkham origins and the last of us 2 look good by comparison with their bait and switching and false advertising
Worst bait and switch and biggest lie in gaming history
0:06 This is so cursed, seeing Karma and Harper alive at the same time 💀
That's not cursed, that's what would be perfect to see.
There was also a badass moment in Cordis Die where Harper climbs onto a hostile CLAW, and takes it down singlehandedly.
If Harper is gone, that same CLAW will be ours to fight.
"Still got my balls. How about you? Heh..." Best line ever
Since BO2 I never realized how much I like games that play string theory, making me realize that small choices can have major outcomes
It reminds me of Mason's Reznov delusion. It's like Harper is dead but Section still believes Harper is with him.
0:07 HOW THE FUCK IS KARMA ALIVE?! She dies if Harper lives, how is this possible?!?
Asking the real question here
There's a glitch caused by replaying missions, there are yt tutorials
Glitch that messes up the endings that’s all
@@dellyrunks2426 just don’t try it it’s pointless I did it one time and it messes up the endings and I got bad endings for it
@@iwasneverkilled3516 just don’t even try okay I did it once and it messed up the endings and you got bad endings like I did one time
I never played this one. Bold of them to have a character that can be killed out of the story so early leaving so many scenes different with and without him.
And to add more salt on the wound the E3 trailer was misleading doesn’t have his own ending and you seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game and everything that was given to the character was all for nothing
Not to mention the ending
@@USADroopyMeat1099you're in every comment, get friends
@@_playa_ which ending the bad good or best
@@llIIIIlllIlIlIlIll hi
BO2 story was in a league of its own, it's goated AF
Yeah and also do you know how frustrating humiliating and annoying it feels nowadays seeing cod characters who were just introduced in the games box art marketing promos magazines etc dying early or late in the same game they just came in like novak from cod vanguard and that world at war us marine sergeant jack Bauer from 24 and please don’t get me started on the characters on modern warfare and Cold War
@@02-Bones oof that burn tho don’t worry trust me I’m not a drama person
It’s sad because you have to kill Harper to get the good ending in black ops 2 and he helps a lot and he’s badass especially after Achilles’ viel or whatever the mission is called
Atleast you don't need to kill him for the canon ending :)
@@tioamaury1012that's good enough for me
You seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game dead weight bait and switch by cod developers and publishers
@@tioamaury1012 he was never mentioned again just throwaway character that was forgotten in the dust bait and switch
@@Tyson-i7r worse than malaria
This is why I don't want to sacrifice Harper
Why you seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game just bait and switch
You will never get the best ending then
@@GenuineGuitar56yeah and worse doesn’t have his own ending and it’s one of the worst bait and switches in gaming history and they got away with it scot free
@usadroopymeat1099 it's probobly for the best that you sacrifice harper, think about it. Section gets more leaderlike, you keep Farid and karma alive (that is if you save karma and keep defalco alive) eventually Farid will save karma, end defalco and the worm will be cracked
@@GenuineGuitar56 yeah and this is not cod 3 were corporal Keith the Scottish soldier orders the main character who is a Sargent or corporal church from cod finest hour and others
0:06 Wait a sec. How can Karma and Harper be alive at the same time?
I think there’s a glitch you can do to have both Farid and Harper survive.
I haven't seen these versions of the cutscenes in a long time. Always went with the good ending (with Alex in the grave as the exception) for my preferred ending after that first run.
Love Harper, it's a shame you can't get the best ending with him.
Yep one of the worst bait and switch’s in gaming history they wasted a perfectly good character #itwasallfornothing
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Agreed.
@@Captain_Redfield I mean have you ever played a game were a character was in marketing promos box art magazines etc only for the character to be bait and switched and removed for no reason
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Not that I can recall, he genuinely felt like a brother and it's stupid that you are forced to kill him or you don't get the best ending.
@@Captain_Redfield yeah it’s like they got no respect for celebrities take bowman for example they all deserve better than being bait and switched for no reason how did not occur to everybody that this was false advertising and sometimes character assassination
I like that the canon ending is harper surviving
And have him in the server room saving karma and suddenly he was given a choice save karma farid or Briggs or whatever he was forced to do
How do we know that’s canon?
@@AstolfoKaiokenX20 That's right, because there's never been a Black Ops set after BO2, at least not with the same characters.
@@AstolfoKaiokenX20
1. hes too marketable and popular to be gone(this video is a testimate to that)
2. in the official treyarch timeline video for black ops 1 and 2, harper is in frame for the poster image for the mission "cortis die" which is only way for that to be possible if it farid dies
@@Migueloultimododobecause if best ending was cannon that doesn’t really explain the things that happened in bo3 or when there was quote that one of characters said about menendez in bo3 saying that bastard got what he deserved or something like that and also in choice between shooting menendez or shooting harper if you don’t choose anything farid will automatically shoot menendez which i guess can be a point but doesn’t really prove if he is alive or dead
Multiple end was cool idea but I hate to get confused with the canon timeline
And they botched it up since the beginning
@@USADroopyMeat1099dude go find something else to do with your life besides spam comments about how upset you are with the developers decisions for the game
@@dennisscott6215 I am not with the developers decision okay and it’s just they wasted and botched the whole selling point and build up its like what was the point of call of duty since it was doomed from the very start
@@USADroopyMeat1099 dude no one cares this game is 12 years old
@@dennisscott6215 and there are rumours that this game is going to be remastered and it’s going to be worse
Mason coming back is awesome, but David having lived his whole life forging a brotherhood with Harper I think he’d be happier with his brother by his side than his father returning after almost 60 years.
4:14 Man.... The atmosphere.....
I remember when you get the option to kill Harper or blow your cover. I know the developers meant it to be an agonising choice. Not gonna lie. I couldn’t have pressed that kill button quick enough.
One of the worst things developers and publishers had done bait and switching characters they literally put in marketing promos magazines box art etc
He does precisely what Woods would do to Hudson 0:35
What the kravchenko interrogation or being executed in a chair
But hudson was kidnapped n
Comedy combined with combat makes Harper awesome
4:27 best line
2:01 Johnson: Madam President, the drones took out Air Force One and Marine One we cannot extract you by air
Thanks and also bait and switch comparison E3 trailer and final game
Harper being alive reminds me of the Reznov hallucinations
fortunately(and unfortunately for lore's sake) harper will probably be alive in the sequel
1. hes too marketable and popular to be gone(this video is a testimate to that)
2. in the official treyarch timeline video for black ops 1 and 2, harper is in frame for the poster image for the mission "cortis die" which is only way for that to be possible if it farid dies
4:27 Cool line.
3:36 Lol!
The bullet went through clean your gonna be fine lol
I didn't kill Harper 'cuz the ending you only witness once, but Harper stays and you can replay the missions with Harper as much as you want✌️
You seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game get a refund sue the company and that’s it
They really need to bring these guys back for another black ops game
And besides that it’s probably going to be worse if the cut content redeems or whatever they fix the damage
😢ah rip harper man
im sad that i cant get best end with hem
Yep everything that was given to the character was all for nothing #itwasallfornothing and salazar was in cod mobile as well
@@USADroopyMeat1099harper was also in a mobile game
@@zzmariobruhhandle which was fated into obscurity for no reason till this day or if it’s cod mobile you are talking
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Keyword: was
Cool content -- but I gotta ask... why do you remove musics from settings? It adds incredible ambience to the game!
Probably because copyright
Everybody hates because of demonetisation
@@Cthulhuwarlord yeah just wow🤦♂️
"Victory can not be achieved without sacrifice." - Viktor Reznov, Bo1
Yesh I like his character he cool also having around is good because in the end of missions last enemy he will aid you just you and him like brother he did call you that
Yeah and it’s a shame too because he should’ve been the main playable or coop character in the first place it pains me to watch a character that had so much potential only for a humiliating bait and switch and how did it not occur to everyone that this was false advertising and cod developers and publishers got away with it scot free
screw the best ending. Having harper AND getting the Menendez lines when Farid betrays him is just too good
R.I.P Kamar De Los Reyes (Raul Menendez)
Harper is like woods
Or Elliot Salem from army of two just look at him doesn’t he look like he had a cousin and about what you said THATS WHAT THE CHARACTER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE because they literally put this character on every marketing every promo every magazine box art etc only to be a huge fat lie because what we got instead was a bait and switch that makes other games with bait and switching and false advertising look good or bad by comparison if this game gets remastered remaked whatever they must make this character the main playable or coop character as a sign of apology
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Why are you just responding to every comment ranting about a bait and switch in a 12 year old game? Calm down dude.
@@PuNkD-j8u I am sorry it’s just I still have those wounds to this day because when I first saw this I felt cheated and robbed of my hard work and patience since I got this game after one of my days of school because I was told by everybody and everyone by cod developers and publishers about that this character was supposed to be a successor to another character in the prequel only in reality was nothing but a filler and disposable character that was literally in the games marketing promos etc and was all for nothing and I am enraged because of it I can see what they are going for but that’s enough cod characters deaths especially to this day we got cod characters deaths everywhere we go we got cod characters deaths all piled up in a mass grave okay we got all of them in our eyes and out of our ears okay anyway very disappointing that they promised everyone one of the plot points which includes the main character who’s last name is mason until cod developers and publishers went to a different direction during development and near the tail end of the campaign it enraged everyone including me and it’s a serious detriment alright
I like to think that Harper is Section's best friend in all of this.
Like how Alex is Woods' best friend.
" *me at achilles veil* " im sorry Harper... ITS FOR THE BEST ENDIN- *BANG*
Harpoor 🪝 and salad-bar 🥗
@@JadeHall-k2d omg thats actually hilarious lmao
I wish we could get the best ending with Harper 😔
There's tutorials where you can glitch the campaign to get the best ending and still have Harper, they've been on YT for years now if you want to look it up.
@@StableDruid130I get karma and Harper to live and (flawco)
#itwasallfornothing
@@StableDruid130I’ve felt sorry for the people who first played this game and I’ve imagined them screaming out curse words like f words when they go to the cordis die level without him especially at the first scene from the E3 trailer
@@gamingbymarseven that the damage was already done
Judgement Day and Odysseus feel wrong without Harper.
I loved Harper too bc its Michael Rourke an under-rated actor. I always felt so bad that he got his face burned since I found out only after my first playthrough that you could stop it and I even tried to save him bc my first playthrough I didnt look anything up so I ended up not getting the best ending (I also shot Mason in the head bc who the hell could hav guessed to shoot him twice in the leg, I mean really🤨). On my second playthrough going for the best ending I still felt bad tho when I had to shoot him even tho I knew it was required to stop Raul and tons of other ppl died too so in the end at least Rourke's death saved Karma and saved ships full of other soldiers and sailors.
Well I did guess that we had to shoot him twice in the leg, my playthrough had evidence that the CIA was helping Menendez so Woods got suspicious therefore I knew I had to spare him
@@Nate_M_PCMR if you take the time to really think about what the documents you found in the drug lab say it might be a way to figure it out, just something about hearing shoot him in the head as Woods made me feel like that what you had to do. It was definitely as big if not bigger of a twist then not shooting Rourke tho, even with him saying do it and calling you egghead as a way to let him know he meant it and wasn't just talking to who you were suppose to be, but to who he knew you really were.
Yeah I even imagine people who first played this game screaming out massive f words when they got this to level without them they probably took the game back to get a refund I even compare this to the last of us 2 because the E3 trailers the bait and switch it’s almost the same
@@Nate_M_PCMR there’s even a hint he even has people in the CIA yeah cool catch
@@michaelsouslin891 and speaking of that Rourke was in cod vanguard along with Raul just wow
Unfortunaly it is neccsesary to get the best ending
Yeah and to add more salt to the wound doesn’t have his own ending one of the biggest lies in gaming history and they got away with it scot free
@@USADroopyMeat1099 yeah thats also true
@@alessandrocanale6189 i already know cod developers and publishers nowadays had done worse things than ruining characters after they literally put them in marketing promos magazines box art etc but back then in 2012 they did the worse of them all they used a character as a disposable marketing tool and they thrown him away like a piece of trash for no reason how did it not occur to everyone that this was false advertising and character assassination and a huge disrespect to the celebrity behind the character
No
Thanks for this
I literally restarted all of '(word i cant type lol) Veil because inside of me literally could not handle killing Harper. Screw best ending
Top 10 clear cut examples of video game bait and switching this is one of them
In the canon ending, he live.
Crosby harper and ziggy are my fav characters. Im sad Ziggy got crushed
I know that karma being alive with harper is an bug but holy fuck it looks so official
Harper makes it the best ending. Black ops 3 mentions Menendez, but says this is All thanks to him(weaponry) so maybe, just maybe Harper is canonically alive. BUT THATS JUST A THEORY
1:32 I hate if you have Harper you don’t feel this effect/the height the guy's fall. If you have Harper it’s like, “okay you kicked this guy out of the VTOL.” At least with out Harper you get to see how far the Merc falls to his death
Yep it’s like they were trying to cut him out of the game during development for no reason he deserves better
I finally found someone who has appreciation for the Call of Duty NPCs
Yeah and I’ve seen video game characters that deserve better and recognition
I never kill Harper, good ending be damned.
Mason lives
Harper lives
Menendez dies
This is my good ending
0:35 Just casually committing war crime...
atleast we get that 5 second cutscene where david murders people with a mounted turret
It's harder to save karma or Harper so i didn't want to kill him but then i didn't know that glitch in oddyseus both of them are alive so above of two last levels can bring Harper with you
POV: Harper casually commits a war crime
Everything is a war crime in video games
@@USADroopyMeat1099 eh, not really
@@harold37443 dude call of duty battlefield medal of honor and other video games have war crimes
@usadroopymeat1099 Yeah I know, but Call Of Duty does a really good job at making sure the good guys do a job at upholding the Geneva Conventions, our Drill Sergeant surprisingly used them as references a lot, either to help with our situation, show how they got it right or because he was obsessed with it lol
@@harold37443 any game moh battle field cod is a war crime
I hate how you have to sacrifice Harper in order to get the good canon ending
Yep and they wasted a perfectly good character just bait and switch for no reason doesn’t have his own ending and everything they gave to the character was all for nothing he deserves better
This is why i can NEVER kill Harper. He's like a father figure, if not a best friend!
1:12 blud got shot in the arm and just sleep to recover himself 😴😴😴
Okay then
That's my boy Crosby
Cordis Die is just depressing without him.
It sucked that we have to kill harper to get the good ending, i feel like he was David's brother in arms much like Mason and woods, except harper at the beginning not only helped him during the campaign but he also helped David gain confidence to stand up in order to capture Menendez, but in the end his sacrifice was well worth it.
And it’s still a shame because it’s like they gave everything on the character for nothing and he should’ve been the main playable or coop character in the first place and all is forgiven from cod developers and publishers
Way I see it, sacrifice Harper you can save the world.. but sacrifice the world you save brotherhood, a cool badass brotherhood. What a dilemma
A huge bait and switch and biggest lie in gaming history
I would kill for a remaster right about now
Or remake whatever they must make this character the main playable or coop character as a sign of apology because what they’ve done to him when he was thrown away like trash and forgotten for no reason was sickening and disgraceful he deserves better
Get ready ‘cause this is coming next year lol
And it’s going to be worse than the first version
@@USADroopyMeat1099And then people will say "MWIII WAS BETTER" & the cycle continues😅
@@kyflysupreme7727 yeah I agree with you on that and like I said it pains me to see what the cod franchise has become since 2003 along with everything cod developers and publishers had done
But we must! It is for the greater good!
Exactly even if cod developers and publishers got away with false advertising because that’s exactly what they did
@@USADroopyMeat1099 indeed
@@mexagodtvg8937 top 10 clear cut examples of video game bait and switching and this is one of them
Watching this again how in the Hell did Section survive hitting the side of a building and splatting the ground immediately afterwards
Bro must've hit a mlg water bucket clutch. Prob had a elytra too
Hold up I was under the impression Chloe dies if Harper lives???
I know! We missed something in the game!
Yeah and there is a glitch to do it but it messes up the endings so it’s entirely pointless
@@Suspicious_Rush nope everyone has already tested it go watch play thoughs of the game and there is zilch
The game feels empty without harper by your side. Still fun, still good, still the best but empty...
The devs wrote him like he was a genuine friend.
How do you save Chloe if Farid isn't there?
For that you have to replay the mission.
I love the shootout the happens if you let Harper die, but I can’t go without Michael rooker
One of the biggest lies letdowns and disappointments in gaming history it’s like it was all for nothing because they spent all of their effort time money and talent on a character that the entire future campaign was build around and they disposed him like a piece of trash for no reason
I was very dumb to kill harper even though i didn't complete one SF mission, not save karma and headshot mason.
How is Chloe still alive in this footage with Harper alive?
If you replay the missions, sometimes it happens like this.
@@alphacodyt and the damage was already done to begin with you seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game doesn’t have his own ending Salazar was in cod mobile and everything that was given to the character was all for nothing #itwasallfornothing
It was bugged that was never fixed and it messes up the endings you are going for believe me
@@USADroopyMeat1099codm isnt connected to bo2
@@balljiggler231 either way the cod franchise still sucked
Wait why karma IS alive if Harper is alive? If Farid is dead who save karma life
Probably did the glitch to have both of them
I even compared this with the last of us 2 because of the infamous trailer were jessie was there instead of joel because if you compare those with others it’s a huge coincidence
@@libertyisland6950even that the damage was already done since the beginning
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Good thing unlike TLOU2 though, Black Ops 2 is a good game lol
@@Freelancer837 yeah I mean I’ve imagine crosby in this level like jessie in tlous2 and people would rant and took the game back
I wish Treyarch remaster BO2 and give multiple choices with some prerequisites
I hate that if you choose to save farid's life he dies anyway, making it pointless the death of harper, cus i love farid too
In order to get the perfect ending you have to kill Harper. 😞
Yeah that everybody hates and they took the game back for a refund
I kept Harper alive on my first run b/c I loved Micheal Rooker in call of the dead then again in walking dead as Merle. Unfortunately I didn’t shoot Mason in the leg my first go and I let Farid, Karma and Briggs die and didn’t do the strike missions so I got the ending where Menendez kills Woods and I felt like shit so on my 2nd run I did everything right and when it came time to kill Harper. I just prepped myself for it and after I did it. I vowed to never kill him again
They literally put this character in everything and now it was all for nothing because you seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game no ending for him it’s like they have zero respect to celebrities which was disgusting who do they think cod developers and publishers think they are celebrities are expendible and their lives meant nothing to them very disrespectful to them they deserve better celebrities deserve better
How did you get Chloe and Harper to be there I don’t know how to get that ending
You have to replay the mission.
How do I save both Karma and Harper? Everytime I save Harper, Karma got clapped by Salazar
Impossible, both can’t be saved
It's just a glitch
@@krumbo2877 yeah
@@ПупкинФедор-ж9ь which messes up the endings what was the point then
Idc if it’s the “good ending” if Harper isn’t there that ending is dookie
Merc,militia,isi, 🤝 militia
When harper died they should have made it so crosby takes his place
Fr
How do you make karma to survive with Harper then?
you can’t. i did bug out the game i think because when replaying Odysseus (even when killing haper and defalco) they’re all present when Menéndez enters the bridge. the cutscene shows defalco knocking out karma, farid shooting defalco in the head, and then salazar killing farid. after that harper asks what happens and the regular gameplay happens
@@Chino57038 and it messes up the endings you are like what was the point then
It’s impossible
I like how you turned off the music, feels more realistic.
Really now
Hey guys, how do you employ the glitch that when you save Harper, Chloe doesn't die and you still get the best ending?
Just luck perhaps but I’ve tried it once and it messed up the endings such a shame
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Will the glitch just happen randomly or can you do something to ensure that when you save Harper, Chloe doesn't die?
@@christianloubardias6375 maybe look up a guide but there is a possibility that it messes up the endings leading you the worse ending
@@christianloubardias6375 both and like I said it messes up the endings so what was the point then
I never pick the choice where I have to kill him I always try to pick a different option. The best ending is required for you to sacrifice him, but I never do that. I rather sacrifice millions of people then to sacrifice a friend I’m not type of person I’m the type of person who write a sacrifice, millions of people then sacrifice a friend. I’m selfish. What are you gonna do about it
Yeah despite the marketing promos magazines box art etc he was put in and cod developers and publishers got away with it scot free he deserved better
How the hell ur chloe is still alive after u choose to save harper?
I thought she can only survive when u save farid instead.😂
You seriously don’t need him for the rest of the game everything that was given to the character was all for nothing because he doesn’t have his own ending a huge lie In gaming history
@@USADroopyMeat1099stop repeating the same shit, jesus
How do I bring back Harper back alive cuz I killed him
How do you get Karma and Harper in the same room?
Yeah but post Achilles' Veil, Section just acts like Harper's not there anymore
And it sucks when Farid dies cuz Chloe gets killed too
Edit: I mean, there's a glitch where you can bring him back, search "Call of duty black ops 2 Harper lives glitch"
How the hell is Karma alive? If Harper lives, Farid will not be there to protect Chloe from DeFalco or Menendez, thus she will die and Menendez's Cyber virus will end up destroying the world. This ending is impossible.
It's a glitch
@@Nate_M_PCMR Ah, okay.
It’s a glitch that messed up the endings I’ve tried it once and I got bad endings so it’s pointless
@@Nate_M_PCMR which was pointless because it messes up the endings
@@aaroneclipse514 yep
Wait a minute... How in earth are Karma and Harper alive at the same time?
Idk(I Don’t Know) maybe mods/script modifications?
harper is my bast friend
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