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Victor Cruz is one of the biggest football "what ifs" of the 21st century. Always sucks to see such a talented player get destroyed by injuries, and it sucks even more because he's such a nice, humble dude. Greatest casualty of all? That salsa TD dance :/
@@Ballinbmac that may be true, but only STUPID people light fireworks while they're still in their hands! JPP played stupid games and won a stupid prize!
Ask any player, coach, coordinator, GM, exec, owner, any fan of the team, “Here’s the deal, you win 2 SB titles, 4 years apart, both times winning in overtime on the road in the Conference Championship game, followed by 2 game winning SB drives against the greatest dynasty ever, both SBs. However, after that, no playoffs for 4 or 5 years & losing records”. Everyone is signing on to that.
Both those Giants teams just REFUSED to give up on their seasons after it looked like they won't make the playoffs. Won some crazy tough away games in both runs.
I was rooting for him untill he decided to trash the giants and the fans for pettiness. Like oh now that you have 1 good season in you're gona start running your mouth? And he still can put up complete stinkers. 13/28 on passing no tds and 1 int 🤢. An elite defense will eat him alive
@@grizzgreen6821Dawg, what are you even talking about? He was hurt on a low hit and said nothing about the fans. Even if he did, they deserved it after the death threats he got after breaking Eli Manning’s iron man streak, a call that he had nothing to do with.
Well, the patriots won 4 superbowls since they played, and the giants been so terrible that eli had to retire. I would say the patriots slayed the giants in the long run.
@@kmh2076 You all are idiots and don't understand if you think that the Giants won be cause of Eli. The fact is that Brady didn't show up either time. If even an average Brady showed up, it was a blow out. And Eli was the beneficiary. Pure and simple. Eli isn't good, he's just lucky.
Yea u could be a bills fan. U got 2 sbs. The bills actually had a chance to win 4 Super Bowls in a row and be the greatest dynasty of all time NFL and arguably all time period. Yet they have not one SB it’s soul crushing to be a bills fan believe me
@@TheAoalec14 LOLOLOLOL calm down buddy.... ----GSW are prob getting their 3rd ring in a row and 4th in 5 years(?) and i doubt they would be named as the greatest dynasty of all time and that is pretty much exactly what you are saying the bills would have been..... a dynasty has to definitely be over 4 years..... e.g patriots,steelers,bulls,celtics,yankees etc etc
edff edededed are you stupid? I’m strictly a basketball fan, and I know that it is way easier to continue to be great in basketball than it is in football. In basketball you have about 7 core players who you need on your roster, it’s easy to keep these players on your team for a long period of time. In football you have about 30+ who you have to keep. Also, in football everything needs to click and even then you still can get beat, while in basketball if you have the better team with the better players, you’re going to win most of the time. Another factor is injury, football injuries are usually far more severe and happen more often, especially when you’re playing 4 more games a year each year. While in basketball injuries are more freak and don’t usually affect a dynasty. Finally, the age factor. Players in the NFL retire younger, and play way less years. Great players in the nba can play for 20 seasons, while depending on the position, you can be great in the NFL and only play for 7 seasons. 3 rings in a row in football would be considered a dynasty. 4 rings in 4 years would be considered the greatest dynasty in football.
I still find it incredible that Eli Manning led the Giants to two Super Bowls. And not just any two, two epic Super Bowls against Tom Brady. I remember people talking about how his calm and quiet demeanor would help him avoid the pressure of playing QB in NY and they may have been right. He has a few of the most clutch throws in Super Bowl history. Even as a Washington fan, I can't help but have some respect for Eli Manning and what he was able to accomplish.
As a Packers fan I have to agree with u in both super bowls for the Giants they beat my favorite team in playoffs well in 2007 really Brett Favre beat the Packers an but 2011 the Giants just beat Packers an truthfully Eli Clutch Manning did his thing no matter what ppl say about Eli Manning he is a 2 time Superbowl Champion an 2 time Superbowl MVP really he was the first ever Patriots Slayer an he found away to out clutch Tom Brady 2 times in Superbowls if Tom Brady is Superman then Eli Manning was his Kyrptonite I think Eli is HOF bound
I think people forget how good those giant defenses were the year they won the Super Bowls Eli Manning was just there the defense did a lot of the heavy lifted to be honest I respect Eli but he definitely shouldn't be Hall of Fame he's never done anything to deserve
I remember there last Supper Bowl. My dad had just lost his six month battle with cancer in November and it crushed my family. He was the biggest Giants fan I knew and to see them win that Super Bowl made us at least for a little bit happy.
@@lakernation26 I'll take a clutch Eli Manning over a QB who puts up better stats (Phillip Rivers). There's a reason Eli is better, and that's because he is one of the greatest QB of all-time when the game is on the line. I'm not just talking about the 2 SB wins, but im also talking about regular season games and playoffs. The Giants have 2 recent Super Bowl wins and have 4 overall. It's really ok if they're not good for a few years.... it's not a big deal. One team can't win the SB every single season.......and as far as im concerned, unless a team win the SB.....they're all on the same level (except for maybe winning the Championship). So if you take the Cowboys for example, those fans have NO ROOM at all to talk trash with Giants fans because neither team even made the SB. Sorry i got a little off subject. But anyway, ill take those 2 SB over Phillip Rivers stats and Loses. good try though ;)
Preeeeeetty sure the Giants we're still a playoff team until a couple years ago. Anyone who's watched football for more than a couple days can see the O-Line, Defensive, and play calling deficiencies. Eli is a scapegoat to blame everything on for non - fans. BTW I'm a Cowboys and Broncos fan, not a Giants fan.
billy fraiser imma Steelers fan bro but agreed Eli has had a better career but Phillip is better talent Eli is more clutch just like I’ll take Ben for Phillip
His defense deserve a lot of credit too man.. offense scored only 17 and 21 points in both superbowls, Seahawks scored 24, Falcons scored 28 and still lost.
@@Musicrecords10 for sure. You notice the games the pats lost ultimately came down to the other teams d line. As simple and cheesy as it sounds, besides qb play, a game comes down to the o and d line play. Giants got to Brady in the bowls. Graham made the play of the game in the eagles one
Two Interesting ones could be: 1. Why the "lob City" clippers collapsed after 2014/why they never won a championship 2. Why the 2000's Pistons never repeated.
The 2nd one has a really wasy answer. They lost game 7... the year they had the chance to repeat. It was also a road game and at the time no road team had won a game 7 since the Bullets (Wizards) in 78. Plus they were up against Timmy Tony and Pop
2016 ruined this team. 11-5 planted the seed of false success in the mind of management and they couldn't admit to themselves that they needed a full-on rebuild. Now its 2019 and they're still reluctant to admit it to themselves, which is too bad because id hate to see Saquon waste his prime years with a bad team like what happened with Adrian Peterson.
the problem I foresee is that they might build the offense around Saquon as the Vikings did when they had AP that yeah he has good stats but the team is average at best
@@connormccann4860 the were pretty mediocre and the play calling was very bland and uninspiring also any good season was when the QB could actually play and wasn't total trash
Yeah we're in a rough stretch. But you know what, I'm 20 years old and I've seen my team win two Super Bowls against the greatest dynasty ever. That's more than most fans will ever be able to say
I miss the days of Tuck, Umenyiora, and pre-Fireworks JPP. That combined with an Eli that didn't check down on every other play... it was something special.
Really? The collapse of a 9-7 superbowl winner that had all the writing on the walls that the squad was getting older without good new replacements is the 3rd episode of a series called the collapse? What about the 49ers, who lost the Superbowl by a field goal in 2013 with one of the youngest and most talented rosters and one of the best coaches in the league go to a 2-14 record 4 years later? That would make a lot more research than looking at an aging roster that was on the tail end of it's life span.
@@gabesachse5391 Eli is not Tom Brady, true He's also not Matt Ryan or Matt Stafford or any other of quality gunslingers who couldn't get it done even when they had all the pieces He's not going to magically lift the team, and his errors are frustrating. But what I've seen over the years if that given protection and a decent defense, he can do great things
This hit me right in the gut, as a 13 year old who just started watching the Giants halfway through the 2010/2011 season, I've been absolutely stunned at some of the moves we made and I've watched this team get dismantled piece by piece. Sad thing is it'll be at least another five before we're competitive again
@@ericradford2142 If you think we even have a sliver of a chance to win the SB I'd love some of what you're smoking. The Giants (again my favorite team by far) aren't close to a top 10 team
Most likely my pessimism is correct and we're complete trash (no where near a top 10ish team) but by golly do I hope your outlandish take is somehow correct!
@@JackRule16 I'm literally on the same boat as you, but the wild card upset gives me some hope. You never know. Just remember what everyone was saying when they first heard the giants were going to face the undefeated patriots in the Superbowl
As a Pats fan. Some teams just have a piece of kryptonite and it was the Giants. I salute the Giants for how they beat my teams in both those SBs. Even if it took a crazy catch by Tyree or manningham. They beat a dynasty when others struggled mightily
Eli just got old. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Time catches up with everyone. I'm not gonna hate on Eli, dude balled out in those playoff runs. If it wasn't for him being so clutch, patriots fans would have 2 more 'ships to be smug about.
Christopher Fair No matter what happens to Eli Manning for the rest of his career, he will, and should, be remembered for slaying the dragon that is Tom Brady.
SuperSuperbowl1 maybe... I’m a rams fan but they were in three straight NFC Championship games from 2011-14. After all of that it went downhill from there.
WOT BLITZ chilloutkids we care because it’s good to see your enemies fall , the first Super Bowl loss was our best season by record the 2nd lost wasn’t even that good and isn’t even a top 5 in our best seasons
Useless Machine WHAT? That 2011 team of the Patriots was the second best roster they ever had. That team could have gone 16-0. If they did it would be another 18-1 :)
@@matta6991 the 1 loss is the eagles in 2004. but the NFC East combines has 3-1 ( 2 wins from the Giants and one from the mighty eagles). Plus the cowboys suck so bad they won't go to the Superbowl
This hurts to watch. I grew to love football watching this team. Victor Cruz, hakeem nicks, Eli, JPP, Justin Tuck. After they started to decline, you could see that the org needed to be completely rebuilt. Picking obj/tom coughlin leaving was when it felt like that era of the Giants being good was over.
Bro, Hakeem Nicks was one of my fav wr's back then. I was a huge UNC fan during that Butch Davis era and Hakeem Nicks and Brandon Tate were 2 of the best WR's in college football. Tbh, Tate was probably better but he was always hurt. Was probably comparable to Josh Doctson from TCU. Injuries killed his career too
@@IncognitoSprax That's because as your stars age and you have to pay the better draft picks, you need to ACTUALLY draft football players, and Reese had no clue wtf he was doing. He was entrusted with the organization of the entire franchise, for whatever reason. Hell I'd argue being a scout is about as close as you can get to being a weatherman. It's a fun guessing game and you get paid too. Those super bowls wins were great and all, but they also spared Reese and gave him more time to completely destroy the foundation of this team, and ANY good team I'd argue, which is finding talent through the draft.
I was so excited when David Wilson and Andre Brown joined the Giants. They both looked like amazing prospects, and as a tandem would've been a force. David got his neck broke in his 2nd game I think? Andre got his leg split in two halfway through the season? Reese watched Diehl and Snee leave and did nothing to replace them. No young running back survives for long behind an inept O-line.
I’m late on this but 1/22/20 the last key contributor of those Giants teams is gone. Not a Giants fan but have a good retirement Eli. You’re a hero to the NFL world.
At least they got Jabril Peppers and two more draft picks. XD I actually liked Peppers, as someone who was routing for the Browns all last year. Both sides benefited from the trade, believe it or not. Lol
TG10 Odell is the reason Eli looks like a starting qb for 4 years. Giants fan blaming him on the boat trip well is he the only giants player on the boat trip? Cruz and Shepard is also on there. But they never get the blame. He is getting all much blame that he shouldn’t get. Victor Cruz been playoff before and why he didn’t stop then from the boat trip? That’s why Odell became a cancer he gets blames that he shouldn’t get. Nyg doesn’t deserve him, y’all doesn’t even respect him.
David Wilson getting injured was the worst of them all. Dude had to retire 2 seasons in bc of a neck injury and I never heard exactly what kinda neck injury it was. That really set us back a bit too smh
Reese is mostly to blame for the collapse. He caught lightning in a bottle when he drafted Odell, that saved his job for years while the rest of the team deteriorated, Mara used Coughlin as a scapegoat and the New York media blamed it all on Eli and Coughlin.
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I really like ur mini documentaries bro u know ur sports and the way u present them are dope I really like the NJ Nets Collapse well I hated the actual collapse bc I’m a jersey native but u get the point lol keep up the good work bro
@@steviesoprano They call them Jokes I think... See the title says how they went from a 2 SBs to Chaos, and I said The 2 SBs were also Chaos implying it's not really a suprising fall off
How? They ran through all the best teams in playoffs. Beat Favre and Rodgers in Green Bay. Beat Matt Ryan in Atlanta who were supposedly great. Same can be said when they beat Dallas who was 13-3. Beat a great 49ers team who was all over Manning. Beat Pats twice and that doesn’t happen with one helmet catch that wasn’t even the game winner. Quiet.
@@kevlar1999 I wouldn't call either of those superbowls "Orderly" which is what made them good games. They were crazy, the endings were crazy. Get out your feelings. I'm not a Giants fan, but there one of those teams like the Browns that I enjoy to see do good. Unlike the Browns I guess their fanbase can't take a joke.
Damn this was insightful. Despite being an Eagles, I remember routing for the Giants in those Superbowls. I definitely like seeing them win. Now, as for the Cowhoes....
As a Giants fan in Eagles country I rooted for the Eagles to beat the Pats too simply because I'd rather listen to y'all hang that over my head for a few years endlessly than hear "TOM BRADY GOAT" for the rest of my life.
My favorite part about reading this is remembering the NFL Top 10 Rivalries and how some Eagles fans, 'casters, players all said how much they hated Dallas even more then the Giants. Like just brought me back super hard to those old clips.
I’d go through this collapse over and over after those two wins. If I never see another winning NYG team in my life, they’ll never take these two wins away and I’ll still pass in peace.
cyp plus a lot of older patriots fans always liked the giants when bill Parcells and bill Belichick were there, mainly bc the Pats were a dumpster fire and never on tv. Ever.
We Giant fans have got no with you folks either. Remember, Belicheck learned how to run a team as the G-men's Defensive Coordinator. I wouldn't mind seeing him back behind the Giants bench before all is said and done.
Let's not forget that after the 2007 superbowl win, the Giants were poised for a repeat but then Plaxico decided to shoot himself. 🤦♂️ back to back wins would've changed the narrative drastically but this is New York and that's show biz baby.
yeah 3 in 5 years sounds pretty nice..and the 2008-2009 giants were better than either super bowl team without plax...what were they a 11-1 1 seed overall that would of been 13-3 if not for some luck?..damn man..wiith him them may have gone 15-1 and won it all..
Excellent video and analysis. As a Net fan, watching what Jason Kidd did for this team was unforgettable. From a laughingstock to a title contender, but you could not keep Kidd happy, no one could. The window was there and it closed just before they could have backed their way to a NBA title. The lack of a competent big man was all that was missing. After years of suffering, the Nets are finally relevant again and now have virtually no competition in the city as the Knicks replaced Ringling Brothers as the biggest circus at the Garden.
Any team that wants to put in a full 60 minutes 21 times a season needs to get it done with the big men up front. If ya can't run or drop back to pass what can ya do? Exactly what the latter half of Eli's career looked like - sling slants, go's, and dump offs and get picked off twice (thrice) a game.
eli was super special though the 49ers literally abused him during that 2011 playoff run especially during a qb protected era and he still won the sb. when he was bad, he was the worst, when he was good, he was miraculous
A well done and accurate video on my GIANTS... One thing that the makers of this video forgot to mention was that the Giants first round pick in the 2012 draft (three months after the 2nd SB win over the Pats) running back David Wilson was forced to retire during training camp 2014... Cause was Spinal Stenosis... He had an excellent rookie season but only played in 5 games in 2013 and was diagnosed following week 5... This set the Giants back at least five years...
phillies would be a good one from awful contracts to not having a good farm system to not having a good manger to letting ruben amaro sign everyone through 2022
8:38 - And then four years later, the Giants trade OBJ to the Browns for a first & third round pick and a box safety. As a result, they had to take $16 million in dead cap AND as an added bonus, they drafted Daniel Jones. "OBJ didn't start his antics overnight. You knew damn well what he was when you put pen to paper. So now you not only did you sell him in embarrassing fashion, you also get a wonderful parting gift: $16 million in dead cap." - UrinatingTree
I wish you would do one on the Seahawks and the downfall after Super Bowl 49.. I would love to see the analysis of the breakup of the LOB. The Dynasty the was never .. love this channel, great work!
I'm liking this series. So many teams to choose from. Teams that could have been great dynasties that only won once (85 Bears, 86 Mets, 2013 Seahawks) Or teams that slowly collapsed from greatness going from heavy favorites to a fringe playoff team to losing seasons (Red Wings ending their playoff streak, the NY Rangers since 2015, The Buffalo Bills after Kelly)
Despite being a Patriots fan, I agree with this. It definitely deserves one. But do you do the Tyree catch for circus factor, or the Plax catch to seal it?
Manning was QB on 2 super bowls team, that is same amount as Favre and Rodgers 1992-2020, those two are considering Top10 at QB and both of them had loaded teams, maybe even more loaded than Giants had during Manning time.
you know going into it thought this show would be a little gimmicky and wouldn't last. But seeing it in practice actually quite interesting and entertaining. Great job SBNation
Age, the brand new cap system, and a GM that focused on nailing his 7th round picks more than his first round picks killed that team. How the Houston Texans thought Charlie Cassery was a great GM hire is beyond me, especially given his performance once the salary cap was implemented.
Too early we have a young core with Strome, Debrincat ect.. our defense just needs to get better albeit quickly. Now if we have a shitty off season with bad trades..
For people that were not old enough or interested in football at the time, that Odell Beckham Jr catch was so impressive and media covered that I (a Cowboys fan who watched that game) didn’t even remember winning that game. I always thought we lost. The catch overshadowed the game in most memories. He controlled the db the entire way down the field to the catch.
I mean, he is. We need a replacement as he's aging out, we should've drafted one in one of the recent drafts, but he's been the sole anchor of the offense for over a decade much in the same way Brees is for the Saints. He's not just the quarterback, he is the captain of the offense with the responsibility that it entails. Never blamed his receivers for a bad pass or a runningback for failing to convert on a 3rd & 1. He's no GOAT but he's been very good for the Giants and while he's easy to criticize he's ultimately the sort of player you can build a team around.
@@lucasaccount573 try 2008. Even as a twins fan i say theyre due for playoffs. They must have angered the baseball gods something fierce for what they have gotten over the past decade
i think las biggest flaw in 2010 was they didnt add anyone....they kept that old 30+ year core of kobe fish artest gasol odom and though hey bynum and brown with their youth is enough to carry us so they added more old guys like barnes blake smith ratliff and said hey we are good to go with our core of 30 year olds and a young bynum and unploished brown...at some point its hard to carry these bums when you dont develop anyone
As a Giants fan since I was 5 years old, I was too young to remember their 1st title(the year I was born) & their 2nd title(I was 4 years old) but I was & am eternally grateful to have witnessed them win two titles in the last decade. One made me happy, 2 brought me immense joy... as the truth is Many fanbases go decades and even basically lifetime's without getting to see their team win a Super Bowl.
You should do one for the raiders after the tuck rule game, and the following Super Bowl loss to Gruden and the Buccaneers. It would literally be a whole series on its own.
9:04- I was at this game and remembering at halftime thinking I'd be ok with going home right now. I've got final projects to finish for class. Glad I stayed.
This is not your best work. This glosses over a lot of the failures important to understanding the collapse. Most egregious of which was the horrendous drafting and failure to invest in the OL. Almost all the guys that were moved/released from the fading 2011 champions picture were already bad when released/ released a year too late. Fans had been begging for better young talent on the team and constantly fed older half-measures. Reese had tried his hand at Belichick style moves thinking he could get the most out of players that had failed elsewhere/draft picks that were the “JPP of [insert position here]”. If Reese had hit on 1 or even 2 more picks in any draft during this time span Coughlin isn’t fired after 2015 and the team is likely not where it is today. Jerry Reese’s horrendous drafts deserve more attention.
It was consistent as all of his collapse videos are. He sticks mostly with the core personnel that were there for both Superbowls (minus Cruz, but that's because he was so critical to the Giants success in 2011), and they shade out as they leave the Giants. So, any rookies after 2011 are not part of his collapse format. I do agree the drafting was atrocious post 2011, and that all falls on Reese. And in his desperation to keep his job, overspent and saddled the Giants for the last 4 years.
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6:20 don't blame a player for getting his big contract. Careers are fleeting, bodies and brains damaged, former players often bankrupt...
McClaren in F1 from Lewis Hamilton's 08 title to him leaving the team in 2013 to them splitting from Mercedes in 2015 and falling off a cliff.
How the greatest show on Turf collapsed
Did you forget who they traded this offseason as well?
As a Cincinnati Bengals fan, I will take a 2-time super bowl winning “collapse” in a heartbeat
Jonathan Poss no, if he meant that he would've not put quotes on collapse
@gullyroad u right man 😭😭😭 I want obj back
I agree as a vikings fan
Go Bungles
Would you take a Wild Card playoff win even if that’s as far as the team goes?
Victor Cruz is one of the biggest football "what ifs" of the 21st century. Always sucks to see such a talented player get destroyed by injuries, and it sucks even more because he's such a nice, humble dude.
Greatest casualty of all? That salsa TD dance :/
Which Victor Cruz Made Popular Out Of Nowhere
i mean he got a ring pro bowls and all all pro selection as an unknown late pick in a sport where the average career is 2 years due to injury so..
Asmosis Jones true, but he was a player who could have had a prime 10-15 Hall of Fame career if he stayed healthy
Atleast he got paid and got to live his dream for a few years not the most memorable career but still successful to some extent
The NFL really does stand for Not For Long.
"Injuries go hand in hand" hey man don't bring JPP into this
Oh no that's.......yeah that's unfortunate. My bad y'all.
@@SecretBaseSBN Lmao thats the first thing I thought of
JPP got that injury from being a MORON!
but he balling still so who cares@@dionr1168
@@Ballinbmac that may be true, but only STUPID people light fireworks while they're still in their hands! JPP played stupid games and won a stupid prize!
Ask any player, coach, coordinator, GM, exec, owner, any fan of the team, “Here’s the deal, you win 2 SB titles, 4 years apart, both times winning in overtime on the road in the Conference Championship game, followed by 2 game winning SB drives against the greatest dynasty ever, both SBs. However, after that, no playoffs for 4 or 5 years & losing records”. Everyone is signing on to that.
Both those Giants teams just REFUSED to give up on their seasons after it looked like they won't make the playoffs. Won some crazy tough away games in both runs.
Not me. I'm signing on *8 STRAIGHT YEARS OF DOMINANCE & A DOUBLE DYNASTY* 💯
@@AceSolomon94 we're talking about the NFL thats never happened unless you mean Brady going to 8 straight AFC title games.
Also your star QB is worse than Jeff Garcia but you obsess about him being a top 5 QB for 20 straight years
Kaque Burlington yep
"A capable backup like...[long pause]...Geno Smith" hits different this year
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Hoping Geno can continue his success from last year.
I was rooting for him untill he decided to trash the giants and the fans for pettiness. Like oh now that you have 1 good season in you're gona start running your mouth? And he still can put up complete stinkers. 13/28 on passing no tds and 1 int 🤢. An elite defense will eat him alive
@@grizzgreen6821Dawg, what are you even talking about? He was hurt on a low hit and said nothing about the fans. Even if he did, they deserved it after the death threats he got after breaking Eli Manning’s iron man streak, a call that he had nothing to do with.
Hes in the playoffs 😂😂😂😂
As a Giants fan for over a decade, I hold on for dear life to the nickname "The Patriot Slayers"
As a patriots fan, you better
Liam Ryan that’s the nicest thing I’ve ever seen a Pats fan say to a Giants fan
Well, the patriots won 4 superbowls since they played, and the giants been so terrible that eli had to retire. I would say the patriots slayed the giants in the long run.
star fire they’ve won 3 since 2012 but have been to 4.
@@kmh2076 You all are idiots and don't understand if you think that the Giants won be cause of Eli. The fact is that Brady didn't show up either time. If even an average Brady showed up, it was a blow out. And Eli was the beneficiary. Pure and simple. Eli isn't good, he's just lucky.
Collapse withstanding, this team still won 2 Super Bowls in 5 years. At least they made it count twice, that's more than most can say.
That makes me feel a little better thank you
Yea u could be a bills fan. U got 2 sbs. The bills actually had a chance to win 4 Super Bowls in a row and be the greatest dynasty of all time NFL and arguably all time period. Yet they have not one SB it’s soul crushing to be a bills fan believe me
@@TheAoalec14 LOLOLOLOL calm down buddy....
----GSW are prob getting their 3rd ring in a row and 4th in 5 years(?) and i doubt they would be named as the greatest dynasty of all time and that is pretty much exactly what you are saying the bills would have been..... a dynasty has to definitely be over 4 years..... e.g patriots,steelers,bulls,celtics,yankees etc etc
edff edededed are you stupid? I’m strictly a basketball fan, and I know that it is way easier to continue to be great in basketball than it is in football. In basketball you have about 7 core players who you need on your roster, it’s easy to keep these players on your team for a long period of time. In football you have about 30+ who you have to keep. Also, in football everything needs to click and even then you still can get beat, while in basketball if you have the better team with the better players, you’re going to win most of the time. Another factor is injury, football injuries are usually far more severe and happen more often, especially when you’re playing 4 more games a year each year. While in basketball injuries are more freak and don’t usually affect a dynasty. Finally, the age factor. Players in the NFL retire younger, and play way less years. Great players in the nba can play for 20 seasons, while depending on the position, you can be great in the NFL and only play for 7 seasons. 3 rings in a row in football would be considered a dynasty. 4 rings in 4 years would be considered the greatest dynasty in football.
could have been more but in 2008 they were rolling but plaxico shot himself
I still find it incredible that Eli Manning led the Giants to two Super Bowls. And not just any two, two epic Super Bowls against Tom Brady. I remember people talking about how his calm and quiet demeanor would help him avoid the pressure of playing QB in NY and they may have been right. He has a few of the most clutch throws in Super Bowl history. Even as a Washington fan, I can't help but have some respect for Eli Manning and what he was able to accomplish.
As a Packers fan I have to agree with u in both super bowls for the Giants they beat my favorite team in playoffs well in 2007 really Brett Favre beat the Packers an but 2011 the Giants just beat Packers an truthfully Eli Clutch Manning did his thing no matter what ppl say about Eli Manning he is a 2 time Superbowl Champion an 2 time Superbowl MVP really he was the first ever Patriots Slayer an he found away to out clutch Tom Brady 2 times in Superbowls if Tom Brady is Superman then Eli Manning was his Kyrptonite I think Eli is HOF bound
What he accomplished as just a ok QB!
I think people forget how good those giant defenses were the year they won the Super Bowls Eli Manning was just there the defense did a lot of the heavy lifted to be honest I respect Eli but he definitely shouldn't be Hall of Fame he's never done anything to deserve
How are you going to feel when he gets voted into the hall of fame?
Eli will go in the HoF as a broadcaster 👍
Jerry Reese screwed coughlin and Eli so badly. Dude refused to fill holes. I'll always hate him for the 2013 and the 2017 season.
dbzkhalid01 Marc Ross too
Same
I'd take reese back over Gettleman
@@georgelee4335 lol no, just for jpp and Amukamara, any of the Reese drafts are even in the league right now. At least DG drafts are working some how
@@AlexPymnYg07 your right, unlike resse, gettlemen thinks things through
As a Cowboys fan, I have the utmost respect for Eli and the Giants. You all knocked off the Patriots twice which made the world a better place.....
😂cowboys fan🫵
I remember there last Supper Bowl. My dad had just lost his six month battle with cancer in November and it crushed my family. He was the biggest Giants fan I knew and to see them win that Super Bowl made us at least for a little bit happy.
I bet he helped us win, looking down with a smile.
Those wins are why Eli has a job to this day.
Yeah those type plays got him there.
Ty Lito fax smh Eli ain’t even better than rivers
@@lakernation26 I'll take a clutch Eli Manning over a QB who puts up better stats (Phillip Rivers). There's a reason Eli is better, and that's because he is one of the greatest QB of all-time when the game is on the line. I'm not just talking about the 2 SB wins, but im also talking about regular season games and playoffs. The Giants have 2 recent Super Bowl wins and have 4 overall. It's really ok if they're not good for a few years.... it's not a big deal. One team can't win the SB every single season.......and as far as im concerned, unless a team win the SB.....they're all on the same level (except for maybe winning the Championship). So if you take the Cowboys for example, those fans have NO ROOM at all to talk trash with Giants fans because neither team even made the SB. Sorry i got a little off subject. But anyway, ill take those 2 SB over Phillip Rivers stats and Loses. good try though ;)
Preeeeeetty sure the Giants we're still a playoff team until a couple years ago. Anyone who's watched football for more than a couple days can see the O-Line, Defensive, and play calling deficiencies. Eli is a scapegoat to blame everything on for non - fans. BTW I'm a Cowboys and Broncos fan, not a Giants fan.
billy fraiser imma Steelers fan bro but agreed Eli has had a better career but Phillip is better talent Eli is more clutch just like I’ll take Ben for Phillip
This is about to make me cry
For real. The hope we had when Cruz got his extension and then everything just unraveled in the worst possible way.
Nathaniel Potts I’m a Patriots fan, so this is going to make me smile. 😜
@@damn.1672 Yea just be careful bub cuz all good things come to an end. Kinda like we ruined ur perfect season back in 07 LMAO
Liam Farrell Haha, y'all on your high horse. Just wait until Brady meets his end, you guys won't be saying 'PATS FAN HERE' every RUclips comment.
hee heee heeeee!!!
Eli Manning should be a hall of famer simply for stopping brady from having 8 rings.
His defense deserve a lot of credit too man.. offense scored only 17 and 21 points in both superbowls, Seahawks scored 24, Falcons scored 28 and still lost.
@@Musicrecords10 for sure. You notice the games the pats lost ultimately came down to the other teams d line. As simple and cheesy as it sounds, besides qb play, a game comes down to the o and d line play. Giants got to Brady in the bowls. Graham made the play of the game in the eagles one
Yup, I think that was proved even in superbowl 50, when you get to the QB and give them no time to throw, it's an easy win
Eli Manning is a career .500 QB. The Giants defense carried Eli.
@@PlymouthGTX1972 Why are you using a team statistic to quantify the impact that Eli's team has had on his career
It’s not like we weren’t a total mess before, and sometimes during those seasons.
Being a Giants fan is an emotional rollercoaster.
Two Interesting ones could be:
1. Why the "lob City" clippers collapsed after 2014/why they never won a championship
2. Why the 2000's Pistons never repeated.
The 2nd one has a really wasy answer. They lost game 7... the year they had the chance to repeat. It was also a road game and at the time no road team had won a game 7 since the Bullets (Wizards) in 78. Plus they were up against Timmy Tony and Pop
For the Pistons the answer is Duncan and Sheed leaving Horry open in game 5.
@@petersonofleo11 that's right, cant leave big shot Bob open
The Clippers Curse
A Saints failure to return to the SB since 2009 with all those heartbreaking playoff games deserves a rewind.
2016 ruined this team. 11-5 planted the seed of false success in the mind of management and they couldn't admit to themselves that they needed a full-on rebuild. Now its 2019 and they're still reluctant to admit it to themselves, which is too bad because id hate to see Saquon waste his prime years with a bad team like what happened with Adrian Peterson.
the problem I foresee is that they might build the offense around Saquon as the Vikings did when they had AP that yeah he has good stats but the team is average at best
Jacob Mathias Ik what u mean but the Vikings had a couple of solid seasons as a team with AP
@@connormccann4860 the were pretty mediocre and the play calling was very bland and uninspiring also any good season was when the QB could actually play and wasn't total trash
I don’t want Saquon to be the next Barry Sanders
@@ianwinfield929 you want Saquon to be the next Barry Sanders. You just don't want the Giants to be the Detroit Lions.
Oh no I'm not looking forward to the next 16 minutes
Big fan of ur vids
@@fazesmokey929 same
The single biggest reason they fell off the map was their unwillingness to invest in an offensive line to keep the run game strong and protect Eli.
Yeah their offensive line was a lot better then I think we gave credit for.
Yeah we're in a rough stretch. But you know what, I'm 20 years old and I've seen my team win two Super Bowls against the greatest dynasty ever. That's more than most fans will ever be able to say
AND the Eagles took down the mighty Patriots as well 😁 #FlyEaglesFly
Ive seen y team win 6 Super Bowl and play 9, that's more than most people can say
I’m 15 and I’ve seen my team win 5 Super Bowls and BE the best dynasty ever.
My team (BAL), only win two in my life span thus far...
@@C-Lightning at least you guys are 2-0 lol
I miss the days of Tuck, Umenyiora, and pre-Fireworks JPP. That combined with an Eli that didn't check down on every other play... it was something special.
It was all because of our O-line...once that went downhill we just couldn't protect Eli anymore and it was all over
Tuck, Osi, JPP, Kiwanuka, Michael Strahan, Corey Webster, and Fred Robbins. The Giants have always had one of the most defenses every year
Welp...I knew this was coming.
Really? The collapse of a 9-7 superbowl winner that had all the writing on the walls that the squad was getting older without good new replacements is the 3rd episode of a series called the collapse? What about the 49ers, who lost the Superbowl by a field goal in 2013 with one of the youngest and most talented rosters and one of the best coaches in the league go to a 2-14 record 4 years later? That would make a lot more research than looking at an aging roster that was on the tail end of it's life span.
NYCharlie718 it’s not that deep
NYCharlie718 chill fam
NYCharlie718 they probably are doing that one in the background. This one was probably super quick to make
@@NYCharlie718 Well we can start with Harbaugh going to Michigan to lose to Ohio St every year, and Kaepernick not being as good as people thought.
"The *other* Steve Smith" AHAHHA, love it. That guy had one year where he looked like an elite WR, then fell off the frigging face of the earth.
Feddy von Wigglestein he had a terrible knee injury. The year he got hurt he was playing well too.
Idiotic comment...
Dude was playing great before a knee injury ended his career, much like Cruz. Must be a bandwagon fan...
Eli makes a lot of wrs like that.
Eli Manning will always hold a special place in my heart
Here's why the Giants collapsed:
O line
O line
O line
O line
o line o line o line o line ELI
@@gabesachse5391 Eli is not Tom Brady, true
He's also not Matt Ryan or Matt Stafford or any other of quality gunslingers who couldn't get it done even when they had all the pieces
He's not going to magically lift the team, and his errors are frustrating. But what I've seen over the years if that given protection and a decent defense, he can do great things
Exactly
Eli couldn’t carry the team. He was never an elite QB. He had two good postseason runs surrounded by mediocre seasons before and after those seasons.
iii and obj
Thank you Eli for showing us the best NFL Super Bowl years
They won two against arguably the greatest dynasty ever. It's hard to win one let alone two. This team did well
This hit me right in the gut, as a 13 year old who just started watching the Giants halfway through the 2010/2011 season, I've been absolutely stunned at some of the moves we made and I've watched this team get dismantled piece by piece. Sad thing is it'll be at least another five before we're competitive again
The Giants upset the Vikings in Minnesota in the wild card game. They are back.
@@ericradford2142 If you think we even have a sliver of a chance to win the SB I'd love some of what you're smoking. The Giants (again my favorite team by far) aren't close to a top 10 team
@@JackRule16 any given Sunday, anyone can be beat at anytime and anywhere. The Giants face the Eagles next week.
Most likely my pessimism is correct and we're complete trash (no where near a top 10ish team) but by golly do I hope your outlandish take is somehow correct!
@@JackRule16 I'm literally on the same boat as you, but the wild card upset gives me some hope. You never know. Just remember what everyone was saying when they first heard the giants were going to face the undefeated patriots in the Superbowl
As a life long giants fan this makes me tear up. Things used to be amazing
The core got too old too fast
As a Pats fan. Some teams just have a piece of kryptonite and it was the Giants. I salute the Giants for how they beat my teams in both those SBs. Even if it took a crazy catch by Tyree or manningham. They beat a dynasty when others struggled mightily
I will never forget seeing the helmet catch on live tv and feeling the weight of the world crash down on us. The second game was just as devastating.
Eli just got old. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Time catches up with everyone.
I'm not gonna hate on Eli, dude balled out in those playoff runs.
If it wasn't for him being so clutch, patriots fans would have 2 more 'ships to be smug about.
Christopher Fair No matter what happens to Eli Manning for the rest of his career, he will, and should, be remembered for slaying the dragon that is Tom Brady.
Age doesn’t catch up to Brady
@@supbrahimhammer.421 untill he sees his new oline in Tampa
@@historyguy4351 he’s doing good now
@@historyguy4351 this didn't age well
Thank you Eli! What else can we say? You will forever haunt their souls!
Do the niners 2011-present collapse
TLE0622 IPL I think you mean 2014- present
SuperSuperbowl1 maybe... I’m a rams fan but they were in three straight NFC Championship games from 2011-14. After all of that it went downhill from there.
Nah they didn't win a super bowl
TLE0622 IPL that’s what I mean, after the 2013 NFC championship game it all imploded. The downfall didn’t start in 11’
Cause they gave up on kaep. That’s the whole reason
As a Pats fan this is both devastating AND cathartic
Patriots maintain success, unlike NY sport teams
@@bradlafferty6076
Ever heard of the Yankees?
Lane Cheney Huh? Why do you care about the Giants fall? They just ruined the 2 best seasons the Patriots had
WOT BLITZ chilloutkids we care because it’s good to see your enemies fall , the first Super Bowl loss was our best season by record the 2nd lost wasn’t even that good and isn’t even a top 5 in our best seasons
Useless Machine WHAT? That 2011 team of the Patriots was the second best roster they ever had. That team could have gone 16-0. If they did it would be another 18-1 :)
so basially the NFC East is 3-1 against NE in the big game
3-0. The Cowboys and Redskins have never played the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
@@matta6991 the 1 loss is the eagles in 2004. but the NFC East combines has 3-1 ( 2 wins from the Giants and one from the mighty eagles). Plus the cowboys suck so bad they won't go to the Superbowl
Naganachiketh Chinnamuttevi damn, I completely forgot about that game lol
Go Cowboys
@@ChickenScratchComedy 🤣
Funny looking back at this with the Geno Smith line.
"Reese showed he knows how to put together a team"
Years later it was determined that was a lie
Most of the main pieces we're their when he took over..and for their 1st sb 42 Reese drafted 1 player on the field..
Those were Ernie Acorsi’s teams. Reese couldn’t draft worth squat
@@GenericUserNameHere if had some bad drafts but look how we been since
This hurts to watch. I grew to love football watching this team. Victor Cruz, hakeem nicks, Eli, JPP, Justin Tuck.
After they started to decline, you could see that the org needed to be completely rebuilt. Picking obj/tom coughlin leaving was when it felt like that era of the Giants being good was over.
Bro, Hakeem Nicks was one of my fav wr's back then. I was a huge UNC fan during that Butch Davis era and Hakeem Nicks and Brandon Tate were 2 of the best WR's in college football. Tbh, Tate was probably better but he was always hurt. Was probably comparable to Josh Doctson from TCU. Injuries killed his career too
To many injuries and bad drafting by Reese caught up.
Bad releases too with no replacements
@@IncognitoSprax That's because as your stars age and you have to pay the better draft picks, you need to ACTUALLY draft football players, and Reese had no clue wtf he was doing. He was entrusted with the organization of the entire franchise, for whatever reason. Hell I'd argue being a scout is about as close as you can get to being a weatherman. It's a fun guessing game and you get paid too. Those super bowls wins were great and all, but they also spared Reese and gave him more time to completely destroy the foundation of this team, and ANY good team I'd argue, which is finding talent through the draft.
you even missed david wilson having to retire due to spinal stenosis and of course reese doing some absolutely woeful drafting
He wasn't on the 2011 Giants
I was so excited when David Wilson and Andre Brown joined the Giants. They both looked like amazing prospects, and as a tandem would've been a force. David got his neck broke in his 2nd game I think? Andre got his leg split in two halfway through the season? Reese watched Diehl and Snee leave and did nothing to replace them. No young running back survives for long behind an inept O-line.
@@jakemauger8377 David had a great rookie season
I’m late on this but
1/22/20 the last key contributor of those Giants teams is gone. Not a Giants fan but have a good retirement Eli. You’re a hero to the NFL world.
Honestly as a giants fan we’re coming back we’re young and getting better I’ll take what Eli got us thanks you eli
And then they TRADED OBJ
At least they got Jabril Peppers and two more draft picks. XD
I actually liked Peppers, as someone who was routing for the Browns all last year. Both sides benefited from the trade, believe it or not. Lol
Im happy hes gone, dude was a punk
Browns be scary
TG10 Odell is the reason Eli looks like a starting qb for 4 years. Giants fan blaming him on the boat trip well is he the only giants player on the boat trip? Cruz and Shepard is also on there. But they never get the blame. He is getting all much blame that he shouldn’t get. Victor Cruz been playoff before and why he didn’t stop then from the boat trip? That’s why Odell became a cancer he gets blames that he shouldn’t get. Nyg doesn’t deserve him, y’all doesn’t even respect him.
@@菜虚鲲篮球大史 Odell got a female spirit trapped inside! He's like Antonio Brown without the stats. He'll destroy himself just give him time!
Bad drafts (Ereck Flowers) and a couple of young standout players getting injured (David Wilson, Kenny Phillips, Steve Smith)
David Wilson getting injured was the worst of them all. Dude had to retire 2 seasons in bc of a neck injury and I never heard exactly what kinda neck injury it was. That really set us back a bit too smh
"Flip" Wilson! What a shame. Thank God Flowers is gone.
Angel Sanchez I mean If Steve Smith never got injured We wouldn’t have had Victor Cruz
Reese is mostly to blame for the collapse. He caught lightning in a bottle when he drafted Odell, that saved his job for years while the rest of the team deteriorated, Mara used Coughlin as a scapegoat and the New York media blamed it all on Eli and Coughlin.
Downfall of New York Jets after mark Sanchez miracle playoff run years ....
*sigh*
our downfall was 50 years ago
I think they did this one but i think its more focused on Mark Sanchez
The icing on the cake was the butt fumble
*jets defense playoff run years
FTFY
Bro.
You're content, your narration and your editing are on point, my guy. Serious new fan here! Please don't stop and 30m vids would only add to your subscriber count. Listen, You had my interest, but now my friend you have my attention.
Cheers!
I really like ur mini documentaries bro u know ur sports and the way u present them are dope I really like the NJ Nets Collapse well I hated the actual collapse bc I’m a jersey native but u get the point lol keep up the good work bro
Do the end of the San Francisco Giants, too
Which one?
@@16ktsgamma san francisco, duh
That might have to wait until the end of this year since this is Bochy’s last year.
@@AlexanderSkinnerVids Even still the Giants will make the playoffs in the future.
It's happened before but it'll be a while.
Gabe Sachse that’s too easy, bad contracts... end of story 🤷🏻♂️
As a die hard giants fan, this is really tough to watch :/
As a pats fan, aside from ptsd I suffered from the pictures in the beginning, this is great to watch
As a pats and skins fan, I experienced unbelievable amounts of joy.
As a giants fan I take solace that things can't possibly get worse
@@thomasoleary9120 your right you could be a jets fan
As a giants and jets fan I'm sad thinking about how dead they are. they aint alive like they were 10 years ago :(((((((((((
To be fair, their two Superbowl Wins were chaos too
A win is a win. ESPECIALLY in the Super Bowl. What kind of comment is this?
@@steviesoprano They call them Jokes I think...
See the title says how they went from a 2 SBs to Chaos, and I said The 2 SBs were also Chaos implying it's not really a suprising fall off
How? They ran through all the best teams in playoffs. Beat Favre and Rodgers in Green Bay. Beat Matt Ryan in Atlanta who were supposedly great. Same can be said when they beat Dallas who was 13-3. Beat a great 49ers team who was all over Manning. Beat Pats twice and that doesn’t happen with one helmet catch that wasn’t even the game winner. Quiet.
@@kevlar1999 I wouldn't call either of those superbowls "Orderly" which is what made them good games. They were crazy, the endings were crazy. Get out your feelings. I'm not a Giants fan, but there one of those teams like the Browns that I enjoy to see do good. Unlike the Browns I guess their fanbase can't take a joke.
@Harris fluke happens once not twice bud
I’ll never forget that Super Bowl victory. Really want to see the team succeed now though because it’s been a decade and a damn rough one.
Damn this was insightful. Despite being an Eagles, I remember routing for the Giants in those Superbowls. I definitely like seeing them win. Now, as for the Cowhoes....
As an eagles fan also hell yea
As a Giants fan in Eagles country I rooted for the Eagles to beat the Pats too simply because I'd rather listen to y'all hang that over my head for a few years endlessly than hear "TOM BRADY GOAT" for the rest of my life.
@@QwertyCaesar well look at u philly screaming about their single sb and everyone else screaming brady the goat😂
My favorite part about reading this is remembering the NFL Top 10 Rivalries and how some Eagles fans, 'casters, players all said how much they hated Dallas even more then the Giants. Like just brought me back super hard to those old clips.
I’d go through this collapse over and over after those two wins. If I never see another winning NYG team in my life, they’ll never take these two wins away and I’ll still pass in peace.
Just so you know, most Pats fans have nothing but respect for the Giants. We hate you guys with all our guts, but we still respect Eli and crew.
cyp plus a lot of older patriots fans always liked the giants when bill Parcells and bill Belichick were there, mainly bc the Pats were a dumpster fire and never on tv. Ever.
We Giant fans have got no with you folks either. Remember, Belicheck learned how to run a team as the G-men's Defensive Coordinator. I wouldn't mind seeing him back behind the Giants bench before all is said and done.
No problem...
Let's not forget that after the 2007 superbowl win, the Giants were poised for a repeat but then Plaxico decided to shoot himself. 🤦♂️ back to back wins would've changed the narrative drastically but this is New York and that's show biz baby.
If Eli Shot Himself Would Plaxico Even Beg Eli To Not Do It
yeah 3 in 5 years sounds pretty nice..and the 2008-2009 giants were better than either super bowl team without plax...what were they a 11-1 1 seed overall that would of been 13-3 if not for some luck?..damn man..wiith him them may have gone 15-1 and won it all..
Certinally did not help that Eli played like garbage against the Eagles.
Matt M their record was good and had they had Plaxico at the end of the season, *I* think they could've pulled through.
@@mm28778 11-1 and we were the BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE before Cheddar Bob shot himself.....Sounds like you hating on us
Excellent video and analysis. As a Net fan, watching what Jason Kidd did for this team was unforgettable. From a laughingstock to a title contender, but you could not keep Kidd happy, no one could. The window was there and it closed just before they could have backed their way to a NBA title. The lack of a competent big man was all that was missing. After years of suffering, the Nets are finally relevant again and now have virtually no competition in the city as the Knicks replaced Ringling Brothers as the biggest circus at the Garden.
lol what a ride the nets went on - and now the knicks actually being competent
I enjoyed how you made a poignant statement, and then emphasize it by casually sipping your coffee...priceless
Do the 2008 red wings next after 4 Stanley cups since 97
It was all because of our O-line...once that went downhill we just couldn't protect Eli anymore and it was all over
Facts
Reese neglected the o-line since he took over
That offensive line was underrated I felt. The Giants were built on both trenches and it showed in those victories.
Any team that wants to put in a full 60 minutes 21 times a season needs to get it done with the big men up front. If ya can't run or drop back to pass what can ya do? Exactly what the latter half of Eli's career looked like - sling slants, go's, and dump offs and get picked off twice (thrice) a game.
eli was super special though the 49ers literally abused him during that 2011 playoff run especially during a qb protected era and he still won the sb. when he was bad, he was the worst, when he was good, he was miraculous
Cold take about my man Geno
A well done and accurate video on my GIANTS... One thing that the makers of this video forgot to mention was that the Giants first round pick in the 2012 draft (three months after the 2nd SB win over the Pats) running back David Wilson was forced to retire during training camp 2014... Cause was Spinal Stenosis... He had an excellent rookie season but only played in 5 games in 2013 and was diagnosed following week 5... This set the Giants back at least five years...
12:08 shoutout to the hefty lefty! RIP
as a giants fan, it was hard to hold back tears during this one
phillies would be a good one from awful contracts to not having a good farm system to not having a good manger to letting ruben amaro sign everyone through 2022
I still remember the dark days after 2011. Hopefully things will turnaround this year.
Hahaha, remember his nickname? “Ruin Tomorrow”
8:38 - And then four years later, the Giants trade OBJ to the Browns for a first & third round pick and a box safety. As a result, they had to take $16 million in dead cap AND as an added bonus, they drafted Daniel Jones.
"OBJ didn't start his antics overnight. You knew damn well what he was when you put pen to paper. So now you not only did you sell him in embarrassing fashion, you also get a wonderful parting gift: $16 million in dead cap." - UrinatingTree
Daniel jones was a good pick lol
@@buddyfats4768 Apparently not anymore! It may be time to blow it up and start over! New coach, new GM, new quarterback! Start now!
I wish you would do one on the Seahawks and the downfall after Super Bowl 49.. I would love to see the analysis of the breakup of the LOB. The Dynasty the was never .. love this channel, great work!
I'm liking this series. So many teams to choose from. Teams that could have been great dynasties that only won once (85 Bears, 86 Mets, 2013 Seahawks) Or teams that slowly collapsed from greatness going from heavy favorites to a fringe playoff team to losing seasons (Red Wings ending their playoff streak, the NY Rangers since 2015, The Buffalo Bills after Kelly)
Not what I wanted to see when yall finally uploaded something about the giants. DO A REWINDER OF SUPER BOWL 42 ALREADY!
Despite being a Patriots fan, I agree with this. It definitely deserves one. But do you do the Tyree catch for circus factor, or the Plax catch to seal it?
@@myzlstyx the plax catch. That's what really won it, so it should be the highlighted play
@@ryanbobyan Absolutely agree.
You should do the browns from the 80's to when Art Modell moved them out of Cleveland
giving up on bill belichek was a big mistake as the giants browns and jets all saw in the 90's through the current gen..
Manning was QB on 2 super bowls team, that is same amount as Favre and Rodgers 1992-2020, those two are considering Top10 at QB and both of them had loaded teams, maybe even more loaded than Giants had during Manning time.
you know going into it thought this show would be a little gimmicky and wouldn't last. But seeing it in practice actually quite interesting and entertaining. Great job SBNation
You guys make sports stories even more fun and interesting. Much love
Please do 1994 World Cup final penalty miss by Baggio
Why?Even if he made it, Brazil had another chance to win
That's for a moment in history
@Mike Keller He carried Italy for the whole tournament. Nice how that is forgotten
ugh another heartbreaking moment 💔
@@innaulanovsky2950 your right he def did, literally scored all their goals in the knockout round
SB Nation, how about profiling the Washington Redskins after the 1991 Super Bowl title? That was a crash and burn of breathtaking magnitude
Age, the brand new cap system, and a GM that focused on nailing his 7th round picks more than his first round picks killed that team.
How the Houston Texans thought Charlie Cassery was a great GM hire is beyond me, especially given his performance once the salary cap was implemented.
Do the fall of the Blackhawks or the fall of the Los Angeles Kings next!
Might be a little early for both. Maybe a year or two for them to fully accept the rebuild.
You won the Stanley Cup against my Lightning. Shush your mouth
Too early we have a young core with Strome, Debrincat ect.. our defense just needs to get better albeit quickly. Now if we have a shitty off season with bad trades..
@@julessantana3040 Kane is still producing
@@julessantana3040 The Keith and Seabrook contracts are terrible
For people that were not old enough or interested in football at the time, that Odell Beckham Jr catch was so impressive and media covered that I (a Cowboys fan who watched that game) didn’t even remember winning that game. I always thought we lost. The catch overshadowed the game in most memories. He controlled the db the entire way down the field to the catch.
Me too as a cowboys fan I remember that same exact memory as you did when I was a kid
This video break my heart! Go Giants we'll definitely be back!
Do the Lakers after they won the 2009 and 2010 NBA Finals
Jrhd
Hr
Bahè
Age and 2013 happened.
Or you could just do "The Lakers after Kobe left"
That’s easy. Just show #41
Welp....they're back up at the top
The giants coaches and front office will still say Elis their guy when he becomes a mummified corpse.
In the Year 3069, you'll See Eli's Head on a Robot, he'll still be playing...
Yea because everything his fault
Which is to say he isn't one already?😂😂😂
I mean, he is. We need a replacement as he's aging out, we should've drafted one in one of the recent drafts, but he's been the sole anchor of the offense for over a decade much in the same way Brees is for the Saints. He's not just the quarterback, he is the captain of the offense with the responsibility that it entails. Never blamed his receivers for a bad pass or a runningback for failing to convert on a 3rd & 1. He's no GOAT but he's been very good for the Giants and while he's easy to criticize he's ultimately the sort of player you can build a team around.
Ramses the Great is still our Pharaoh
Come on man collapse of Greatest Show on Turf
As a former Rams fan, please. This must be done.
I knew something was missing as I was thinking of teams to do this for.
your wish is fulfilled
I really like the format of these videos...chart is a great visual.
Best sports channel on RUclips always the highest quality
Could do the collapse of the mid 2000 White Soxs
Dale Cournoyer I still don’t understand how that team was so dominant and now they haven’t had a winning season since like 2011
Lucas' Account everyone got old lmao, tons of key pieces from that 2005 team fell off due to injuries and just age.
@@lucasaccount573 try 2008. Even as a twins fan i say theyre due for playoffs. They must have angered the baseball gods something fierce for what they have gotten over the past decade
@@sominboy2757 The Baseball Gods Spared Thome
I enjoy watching these series hopefully a video a video of the 2010 Lakers will come as well
Mavs broke their soul with that sweep
i think las biggest flaw in 2010 was they didnt add anyone....they kept that old 30+ year core of kobe fish artest gasol odom and though hey bynum and brown with their youth is enough to carry us so they added more old guys like barnes blake smith ratliff and said hey we are good to go with our core of 30 year olds and a young bynum and unploished brown...at some point its hard to carry these bums when you dont develop anyone
15:27
Damn as a giants fan that’s too real, when we let go of JPP it was a moment of realization.
Anyway I’m hyped for Danny Dimes
Daniel Jones might have a good season
80 yard run 🏃♂️ then he falls 🤦🏽♂️ that sums up our Giant Season
As a Giants fan since I was 5 years old, I was too young to remember their 1st title(the year I was born) & their 2nd title(I was 4 years old) but I was & am eternally grateful to have witnessed them win two titles in the last decade. One made me happy, 2 brought me immense joy... as the truth is Many fanbases go decades and even basically lifetime's without getting to see their team win a Super Bowl.
You should do one for the raiders after the tuck rule game, and the following Super Bowl loss to Gruden and the Buccaneers. It would literally be a whole series on its own.
Do the Sixers on how they went from 10-72 to possibly a 50-55 win team
By tanking.
Press OBJ to pay respects
Jessie Jonez nah he is a great player.
The NY Giants went 4-1 in the Super Bowl in less than 30 years from 1986-2012. Can’t argue with the facts
Their only SB loss was to Trent Dilfer, a non HOF QB lol!
This video is much needed right now
9:04- I was at this game and remembering at halftime thinking I'd be ok with going home right now. I've got final projects to finish for class. Glad I stayed.
Please do one on The La Lakers after their 09-10 championship run.
This. Also, Urinatingtree needs to make a lolcow video about the Lakers.
Video just needs to show the goat dirk
Victor Cruz: They call me Mr. Glass!
This is not your best work. This glosses over a lot of the failures important to understanding the collapse. Most egregious of which was the horrendous drafting and failure to invest in the OL. Almost all the guys that were moved/released from the fading 2011 champions picture were already bad when released/ released a year too late. Fans had been begging for better young talent on the team and constantly fed older half-measures. Reese had tried his hand at Belichick style moves thinking he could get the most out of players that had failed elsewhere/draft picks that were the “JPP of [insert position here]”. If Reese had hit on 1 or even 2 more picks in any draft during this time span Coughlin isn’t fired after 2015 and the team is likely not where it is today. Jerry Reese’s horrendous drafts deserve more attention.
Case in point, the Giants passed on Todd Gurley and drafted Erik Flowers. Say what you want about Gurley's decline but who has had a better career?
@@andrewr7395 The mere fact Ereck Flowers is the kind of player who quits when things are rough is enough evidence he was a mistake.
It was consistent as all of his collapse videos are. He sticks mostly with the core personnel that were there for both Superbowls (minus Cruz, but that's because he was so critical to the Giants success in 2011), and they shade out as they leave the Giants. So, any rookies after 2011 are not part of his collapse format. I do agree the drafting was atrocious post 2011, and that all falls on Reese. And in his desperation to keep his job, overspent and saddled the Giants for the last 4 years.
Honestly the best sports chanel on YT. No dumbass top ten lists.
Only thing better than a Collapse video is one about the Giants