Well this is what Zack Synder is doing for his trilogy copying the structure of the The Dark Knight trilogy, The Beginning, The Fall, and This Rise. While also adding his own twist with The Birth, The Death and The Rebirth (very Jesus like) of Superman, other DC characters like Batman and Wonder Woman, and even the world they live in. Man of Steel is the beginning of Superman, starts with a birth of Clark and ends with the birth of Superman, it is birth/opening this world to Aliens and Metahumans. BVS is the fall of Superman in the public eye and in himself, features a fallen Batman from is glory days, a fallen Wonder Woman who doesn't believe in man kind (the solo film being her The Beginning film, BVS being her Fall, JL being her Rise), begins with a death of the Wayne's and end with the death of Superman. The public/media/government not trusting/fallen Superman and Metahumans (SS could also count as that). JL (mostly guessing now) will be the Rise/Rebirth of Superman from his grave, Rebirth of Batman going back to his glory days, Wonder Woman's Rebirth into trusting humanity again, Rebirth of humanity trusting in superheroes, the Rise of the Justice League, the Rebirth of protects/gods of planet Earth (as the beginning of the film will have a flash back to the old gods like Zeus, this comes from the set reports), will start with a rebirth of Batman (which is hinted at the end of BVS) and ends with the rebirth of Superman(which will allow them to both go on to their solo films like the characters that the fans/haters/moaners want them to be). Zack Synder was brought in to do a Superman trilogy that would work like the DK trilogy that I mentioned above, so you can see where he constructed it by having the origin as The Beginning, The Death of Superman storyline being The Fall and the Return of Superman being The Rise. Then the first Avengers film came out and changed everything into building a cinematic universe. So I can see the last one of his superman trilogy ending like Dark Knight Rises where they hint at a new Batman with John Blake, but instead having 4 new Supermen come along like in the comic book storyline. Hey but now they've swapped the Supermen with the Justice League, that's not bad.
Yes, well thought. Terrio told before that Man of Steel, Batman v Superman and Justice League are sort of a trilogy. And even though we watched the birth of Superman, his fall and now we will se his rebirth, they are working on a Man of Steel sequel.
you missed the part when superman is dead in hands of lois with batman and wonder woman to the left and right. That's a clear reference to Michelagelo's "Pietà"
Bruce Wayne thats quite true actually. Like even quentin Tarantino was complaining about how hateful eight wasnt getting any screening space in one LAs biggest cinemas thanks to disney paying extra money to only show star wars to audiences.
chaos lord zemo was a failed plot villan nothing else well what more can you expect from villans from marvel movies for your information wonder women is the only movie to come close to dar knight ratings except logan,winter soilder was the best marvel hadto offer,ww was way ahead of that movie in terms on ratings,praise etc
pffff if you liked civil war more (or in general) the one who has a problem is you. Listen, let's do this you go watch your beloved disney movies where everything is a superficial fairytale and an overused forrmula that never gets old for people with no cultural bagage; and we, the adults, keep watching some movies that attempt at least to look for something more than jokes and happy endings in peace, ok?
Sorry kid but those complains are really stupid (but you're right with suicide squad, that movie was a big pile of shit). The first step to apreciate art is to actually apreciate it as it is and not as we wish it to be, try to not have so much prejudice next time. You got to see the difference between bitchin and making a critic judgment about someone else work.
It's cool if you don't like the films. But understand that it was always the plan even before BvS was released in theaters by Chris Terrio that tone would change. Tone/arc is also established in MoS speech by Jor-El. "They will race behind you" - MoS "They will stumble, they will fall" - BvS "They will join you in the Sun" - Justice League
The character motivations are there. Lex says it. To the Senator and to Superman on the rooftop. Batman also utters his motivations to Alfred on multiple occasions. It's characters studies and how these people (and the world) are effected by Superman's appearance 18 months ago. I'm a big fan of these characters too. I love and have seen a large majority of what you have listed. Still, I think Zack & the actors truly understand these characters. Again, all I can say is it's part of the DCEU gameplan. Chris Terrio openly said before BvS even premiered, that BvS was DARK in tone. He cited just like Wrath of Khan, or Empire Strikes Back, that BvS was the darkest in the series and Justice League would be lighter and optimistic again. Which fits. In this world, like every comic or tv show we read, they reinvent. In this reinvention, Man of Steel is seen as Action Comic #1. It's the alien arrival. Then it's the reaction to it in BvS. From Batman's perspective, to Wonder Woman's, to Lex's, to the government. What better way for Superman to prove that he'd die for this world than actually doing so by the end of the movie? It starts this whole conversation of Rebirth. Rebirth because Superman INSPIRED Wonder Woman to come back out of the shadows and fight again. INSPIRED Bruce to be Batman again, not the killer and vengeful vigilante (which will be addressed in Justice League as reported by many articles online). Superman INSPIRES Batman and Wonder Woman to unite and stand together as they unite the Justice League. The Justice League isn't even a THING. Metahumans are not known to the public. Only news coverage is Superman and the Bat. But Justice League serves as a coming out party and an introduction to hope, heroes, and inspiration for the world. "They will join you in the Sun." Just look at the Justice League banner, the sun is rising. The night is darkest before the DAWN (of Justice). It's all coming together and once the Justice League is united and reveals itself to the world, I'm 100% positive that the DCEU will begin to look A LOT like the characters, comics, and TV shows we know. It's Justice League Begins. It's superheroes begins. I have faith that this is where the roads are leading.
The best part about this version of batman is that they respect him enough to let him be wrong. So many takes on the character these days have him as the infallible source of internet memes and make everyone around him stupid so he can be smart. Snyder and terrio let batman be wrong so him making the right decisions has value. They let him spend the majority of the doomsday fight just barely staying alive so that his lone contribution at the end matters.
+RXdash78 This is the best live-action Batman character portrayal I've seen after the one in The Dark Knight. Even if we include portrayals in all media, this would be in my top 5.
BvS will eventually earn his place in the history of movie making, just like Blade Runner, which was also lambasted by critics back in the day. With every passing year the people will realise more and more it's fundamental cinematic value, mark my words.
20+ years from now BvS will be remembered, separate from the pile of samey comic book movies that aren't aging well. Maybe not hailed as a classic, but worth revisiting
Zack knows how to deliver an iconographic storytelling. He is really capable of bringing things from comicbook pages to life. The only problem I find with his vision is his tendency to deconstruct characters and make us question their very nature. I may not find a grave problem with that, but most of the people won't agree with that for sure.
Critics disliked the dour tone, but that gut reaction, as honest as it might have been, blinded them to the beauty, power and sheer artfulness of this incredibly well-made film.
@@viniciusnogueira1756 i don't hate Snyder, i actually liked his justice league, i hate Snyder cultists who say mos and bvs are masterpieces and save martha is actually good scenes, i actually hate those type of cultists like you, Also i don't like how Snyder made Batman kill , made him unreasonable, and made Superman emotionless who can't even save his own dad, Jonathan Kent saying you should have let those kids die, and superman having no regards for human property and human life in man of steel, Yeah I don't like how Snyder portrayed those characters , how he portrayed wonder woman in bvs was pretty good, but other than that his portrayal of Superman and Batman is trash, and you cultists try to justify it
This video proves just how much detail they put into this film. Minute details that sometimes viewers will miss. Like the way Clark softly took the rose from it's bouquet and gave it to Lois(softly as if one move from his finger can't destroy a building). To how slowly and carefully he opened the small door in the court room where he was going to be judged, not the time to be concerned about a door I might add.
You know that to say it is a masterpiece, all the people need to say it is a masterpiece, Other day some people can say captain marvel is an underrated masterpiece, and we all know that's not the truth, People can say infinity war or zsjl is a masterpiece, and i would agree with them
"The american conciousness died with Martin, Robert and John (Fitzgerald Kennedy)" - Perry White in BvS Superman's funeral mirrored JFK's funeral. SNYDER IS A GENIUS.
Is that what he said?! Because I've been wondering about that the whole time...I misheard and thought he said "Robert Martin Henshaw," haha. I was googling this guy and not finding anything and was always confused about this. I feel like you've cleared a fog in my head; thank you.
What scenes and character decisions are you even refering to? People throw out this stuff like it is a fact about the movie. What doesn't make sense? What doesn't connect? Who is making dumb decisions? My experience in discussing this movie is that most problems people seem to have with it stem from them not remembering half of the explanatory dialogue from the movie or realizing that this is part of a bigger story and that some open questions will be solved in Justice League (something everyone accepts from Marvel by now).
abonny I made my own edit of this movie. I cut 27 minutes out of it. It flows a lot better and nothing I cut out effects the core plot whatsoever. I may hazard a guess and say that that's the problem most people had. Too many dreams, hallucinations and shameless sequel baiting. Cut that all out, get to the core of the movie and stay there, and it's not so bad. But any movie that's 174 minutes long and you can cut out 27 minutes without losing much, is NOT a masterpiece. Try cut out 27 minutes of another 3 hour long film, like a Lord of the Rings movie, or The Godfather Part II
Also the Theatrical Cut was a piece of shit, which screwed up most peoples first impressions instantly turning them against the film. That movie was hollow, and guess what, even though it was shorter, most of the footage that I cut out of the Ultimate Cut was footage ALREADY IN the SHORTER Theatrical Version. If that isn't proof enough of the problems in this movie I don't know what is.
soerism yeah but did you forget the whole beginning of the movie of where metropolis gets destroyed from Superman's battle with Zod? Batman did not trust Superman due to the sheer destruction and recklessness of it all. The quick shift in emotion (especially in the heightened stress levels) during the Batman vs Superman fight is purely for plot purposes and quite unrealistic. Superman pretty much leveled a whole city and it even had PTSD effects on Bruce. Plus they had obvious philosophy differences of how crime is dealt with. Which is why Superman went after Batman in the first place.
I agree its deeper than mcu movies, but if you mean to say this movie is better than the mcu films you are wrong. captain america civil war, infinity war, winter soldier, endgame and MANY are better than this film. this movie is garbage compared to mcu films. If its deeper, doesn't mean its better than mcu movies.
@@shreyasbytes6621" deeper doesn't mean better" what kind of an ignorant statement is that , so one layered marvel movies , with its one dimensional acting , that is pointed out by great directors like Martin Scorsese and Steven Spielberg is great because it's not deep? 😀🤡
During the film, Bruce, when he goes to visit his parents' grave, always wanders a little lost in the woods. But at the end of the film he finds a purpose to pursue, to fight for. When he leaves the Smallville Cemetery there is a road for him to follow. Zack Snyder is awesome!
He doesn't read comics, otherwise he would have understood superman and Batman, and not make Batman kill, and made Superman optimistic and hopeful, and a beacon of hope not a building destroying emotionless person, who thinks himself as hero, Let's be real why Batman and Superman didn't like each other in bvs, Superman don't like Batman because Batman brand kill people which is normally a death sentence in prison, And Batman don't like superman because how he fought zod which destroyed metropolis, which killed many people, Both of these people are hypocrites who don't see what they did wrong
@@rocky3850 If you hate Batffleck for killing, then you must hate every Batman except George Clooney. If you hate the destruction of the fight in Man of Steel, than you must hate every fight Superman has ever had in comics or animation. And yes, both men are being, if not hypocritical, than judgemental. And by the end of the film they both realize it; "Bruce. I was wrong; you have to listen to me." Superman before his fight against Batman. "I failed him; in life. I won't fail him in death." Batman after Superman's funeral. Furthermore, Superman has not changed. He still saves as many people as he can. It's the world that is judging him because of his power; because that is how the modern world is. Whenever a billionaire gives money to a charity, our first instinct is to assume they have an ulterior motive, not that they are doing it to be kind. Finally, this Batman is based off the Dark Knight Returns comic, which, if you had read, you would know that Batman is a psychotic hypocrite who hears voices and justifies everyone he kills. The animated film is great, but it is not accurate to the source material.
@@rocky3850The movie isn't saying that that's who the characters are 😂. It's a commentary on how people endlessly jabber on about what a hero "should" be, which is what leads to them being divided and disillusioned. The people saying "Superman and Batman should NEVER kill!" is missing the point of the movie 😂.
This shows how much thought process and research went on for making this film. I think we are not yet ready for this kind of movies. Maybe someday. Someday!!
This movie changed my whole perception of what movies should be. It is flawed but no other movie has stuck with me so long after leaving the theater as this one did. Something about the images and the experience of how the film moves lingered with me. It was tone-driven. Characters didn't just explain what they were doing to you and why. You were sort of left to form your own interpretations. A rare cinematic experience in a sea of predictable superhero checkbox movies made for children.
PART 3: BATMAN AND LEX PARALLELS V SUPERMAN BVS's Lex is most superficially different from previous incarnations e.g. Hackman and Spacey's real estate Lex and Rosenbaum's suave-boy-billionaire Lex. Eisenberg is a more technocratic interpretation of the character. However, what really makes this Lex: is his perchance for wordplay and blatant contextual malapropism. On a surface level, his reasoning for a deterrent against beings like Superman is reasonable. It also parallels Bruce’s own contingency plan though both men’s viewpoints are severely flawed and it is most obvious with Bruce. With Lex, it takes a bit more time to unravel and we get that when Senator Finch visits his mansion to announce she’s declined his kryptonite importation license. Lex wants power and lots of it; he's got earthly power and now he craves godly power - thanks in part to Superman’s presence - and he doesn't care how he gets it. So when Lex asks the senator whether to call her June - mainly to reassert him - and the senator seeing through his act basically slaps him down i.e. "You can call me whatever you like. Take a bucket of piss and call it granny's peach tea, take a weapon of assassination and call it a deterrent, you won't fool a fly or me. I'm not gonna drink it, " Lex quickly latches onto that: because guess what? Lex likes to use other people's words and actions against them. In effect, the moment the senator dared come to him in person and announce that that she’s onto him (the kryptonite clearly wasn’t an innocent deterrent) and that she understood exactly what kind of man he was; was her death knell. One cannot take the court room bombing in isolation as that entire sequence is a power play on Lex's part. Lex literally and figuratively played God; like some malevolent trickster deity. The sequence also highlights the importance of naming things correctly or calling things as they are. Lex doesn't like calling things what they are. He’d rather obfuscate, belittle or use highfalutin puns to mask his true intentions. This is a man in search of power and godly power at that; to execute his will and he achieves that by blowing up the senate. This is a call-back to the grandiose painting in his father's study. Lex knows the painting is the wrong way round but Lex looks at the world the wrong way round so he leaves it as is. Heck he says it himself: "(...) that (painting) should be upside down." This blatant misrepresentation is something Lex does a lot of and each time the music and the entire mise-en-scene captures that. The wonky reworking of Superman's theme further shows that Lex sees the world through a fractured glass plane and he makes no attempt to redeem himself. He even goes as far as to completely misrepresent Superman on that fabulous helipad scene, then creates Doomsday by desecrating Zod’s body and of course, with batman whom he considered his knight - how wrong - though it is easy to see why: 1.) They are both orphans 2.) They are both from rich families 3.) They run both legacy companies 4.) They both engage in philanthropy e.g. Lex’s library donations and Bruce’s charities 5.) They both experience existential terror after the Zod/Superman battle Yet how Bruce and Lex deal with this world changing event really boils down the fundamental differences between them, and it comes down to their level of interpersonal/emotional attachments.
Exactly, while Bruce deals with his PTSD through rage filled vengeance, lex' existential crisis is more of a self indulgence he plays with a blue ball calling it the blue planet because he wants power and until Superman dies he won't be the "man of tomorrow" The problem with the movie is it expects people to understand everything and considering people thought Batman left supes because their mother have the same name sigh it can't be helped lol
This is true art. We didn't pull out positives and complex questions this movie raises from our asses. This movie has it all and if u aren't willing to look deeper you don't have say in this. Negativity comes from not understand the purpose and ideas behind this film. Every scene has a meaning and not even a single second is wasted. Best CBM ever created and the only thing Zack got was hate. Bravo "DC fans", bravo!
But it's "cringe" 😂. The people saying "Batman and Superman should NEVER kill!" is missing the point of the movie. It's a brilliant commentary on how people's expectations of what a hero should be leads to them being divided and disillusioned. All the haters are doing is proving that the movie is right 😂.
@@circular_entropy3455 The movie is right. The only cringe thing is to say that movies should be like cartoons... Batman throwing a sharp object at criminal's face and knocking him out? Really? That would be the goofiest thing to do in a movie. In cartoons superman crushes into so many buildings for no reason. More than in man of steel where he was losing the fight. People can be really stupid sometimes. Movies and cartoons are not the same.
Well said! He never sought to just replicate the same things we’ve gotten from comics. He wanted to be inspired by them to add something new to the cake. Those who think these movies are “products” will never understand
Critics and audiences didn’t see the pure cinematic quality in this film. Most took it as just another comic-book film competing with Marvel but Snyder clearly included so many layers that the film demands to be dissected over and over again. Once the Marvel reign has passed through I believe people will truly begin to appreciate (the director’s cut) of this film. It’s truly ahead of its time and I’m not afraid to say it’s one of my favorite films of all time.
Quite a few were missed from this video. Luthor’s painting of Milton’s Paradise Lost. The story of which perfectly mirrors the story of Lex Luthor himself. When Batman holds the spear to Superman’s chest. A reference to the painting of St. Michael vanquishing Satan by Raphael. At this point, Bruce has deluded himself into believing that he is in fact killing an entity of pure evil, making him the saviour of the world. What about the frame of Lex Luthor on top of the tower looking at the sunset as a reference to the painting ‘The Conqueror’ of Napoleon. The death of Superman mirroring 2 distinct paintings of the death of Christ. Young Bruce ascending into the sea of bats mirroring ‘Paradise’ from Dante’s Paradiso.
They forgot the allusion to the cover of Frank Miller's 'The Dark Knight' cover, during the Doomsday scene Batman uses his grappling gun to get on the side of a building and lightning flashes behind him.
This movie is great. GREAT! And I feel like, it time, will be regarded as one of the best superhero movies of all time. It was way too deep and too much of a "film" for a superhero movie than we deserved. People got so accustomed to the popcorn popping "summer blockbuster" of the Marvel variety that they saw this and somehow couldn't wrap their heads around the themes and what the film was trying to achieve.
Well retarded people want to go to movies to laugh and turn their brain off. It's too hard for them to think while watching movie, and ask questions and even blow their minds. This is the society we live in. People don't care about facts nor thinking. It's about laughs and explosions.
as I was watching, I knew there were several references, you could tell there was something given the outstanding scenario, but a lot of them were overlooked by most people.
This movie is a masterpiece! A few critics gave it bad reviews created a snowball effect and people hopped on a bandwagon. Many people that I know, didn't watch the movie because of this. They said it's trash because they heard it was trash. That is until I sat them down and made them watch it. They were so confused as to why it got bad reviews. Still bugs me till today lol.
The masses do not have same level of IQ & EQ. Some subtle creations are understood and liked by a portion of population unfortunately. Btw, Larry Fong, the cinematographer of this movie too needs to be credited along with Zack.
Haron Takes Five The problem with the film is that the comics aren't always dark, especially not the Superman comics. There is always a lighthearted tint to the drama before or after, minus some moments that warrant extreme seriousness, to help keep the tone accesible. This movie is dark for the sake of being dark. It didn't earn the right to do the things it did, unlike the comics.
Alex Hill this movie isn't dark for the sake of it, there's a point to all of it. it's been known for a while that bvs was intended to be the darkest chapter in order for justice league to have more weight and to bring the light/hope to the forefront. it was intentionally designed to get the dark stuff out of the way. even batman killing had a purpose, the purpose was to have superman inspire him, become Batman again, and form the league. Chris Terrio said before bvs was released that MoS, BvS:UE, and JL is one big superman story. it also parallels with Christ. MoS representing the birth, BvS with death (hence why it's darker), and JL being his resurrection. basically the contrast for JL to be more hopeful and inspiring was why BvS was so dark.
My main problem with that is that the film didn't earn the right to do the things it did. Even if it is a Christ allegory, it isn't a good excuse to copy the Death of Superman story in the second film. Superman never really was a strong Christ allegory in the comics anyway, with the two only strongly sharing a signal of hope.
Okay one more thing that I noticed - In all the scenes when Bruce Wayne is walking through a grassy field, there is no discernable path to his destination. For example, when he is walking towards the Wayne Mausoleum, or when he is walking towards Wayne Manor. He is walking forward, but with no resolute path - he is truly lost. But after Superman's death inspired him, and he finally realizes what he has to do to redeem himself from the loss that he suffered and tragedy, he finds a path - while walking away from the funeral.
There is plenty of imagery that shows that Batman is on the deep end in this movie, so much that it's annoying. It's making me say "I KNOW WE GET IT, BATMAN IS ON THE EDGE." frequently.
There is more than one way to acquire cult status. Shining, Dune, Full Metal Jacket, Donnie Darko... most David Lynch films - They all started out as critical bashed or divided. Give this 10 years. It will be called one of the best comic book movies ever made. I'm calling it now. Maybe I'm wrong... but I don't think so. People are already starting to look deeper into it. It's a matter of time.
There was also the small frame of Batman aiming his grapnel gun while hanging off the side of a building during the Doomsday battle. When the lightning strikes behind him, it's a reference to The Dark Knight Returns cover. It's brief, but it's there.
Thank you for making this video. Not only it is highlighting how genius and accurate the direction was managed for BvS but it made me want to own every single work by Alex Ross. The realism of his artstyle is absolutely remarkable.
Yeah Tommy Wiseau's "The Room" is also a masterpiece, like it or not. What do mean I need arguments? It's a masterpiece because I say so! Even though the story was weak, the characters flat andtheir motivations hard to follow, questionable casting choices, but, there was some obvious homages. That's something, right?
nicholas alexander lol masterpiece. After nearly killing each other, Batman stops the last blow because Superman said Martha and from then on they become partners. That's a masterpiece baby. Who knew philosophical differences could be trumped by having mom's that have the same name.
Dinglebearry sure use the same excuse everyone uses because they had their brains turned off. If you can't understand the amazingness behind that scene then look it up.
Every filmmaker has their own set of inspirations. But what sets them apart is learning from them and using it in your own way. And I feel sorry for those people who criticize Zack Snyder and any director. To those people I'd like to say: Why don't you make your own movies and then judge who is better? Box office collections doesn't matter. The thing which matters is executing your own vision and creating your mark (style to be more specific). There are much more complex things which are beyond our understanding like years of experience, and the culture you're influenced by and so on. Let's take a moment and appreciate these filmmakers. Thank you *Flashback FilmMaking* for an excellent video. Keep posting good stuff. Note: As you said the beginning and end has funerals which symbolizes death which is the symbol of the movie. This movie has a lot of symbols and reference.
Another bit about the two funerals: both inspired Bruce to be a hero. His parents dying inspired him to become Batman, and Superman dying inspired him to build the Justice League. I'm glad we got a movie that showed what would happen if Bruce fell into the "abyss" he mentions in the comics. I hope JL shows his efforts to redeem himself.
This is a great video for a great film. The complaints from the Marvel fans are killing me. I guess they need someone saying "Underoos" in order for it to be a good film.
Anyway, I consider Batman v Superman as a good movie. He did not deserve his unjust and unjustified lynching. Sure, it still has its imperfections, but what I am trying to say is that Snyder, Goyer and Terrio could have been content with making a basic superhero blockbuster film, without any symbolism or cultural references (like about 99% of Marvel's inpersonal films). Putting out references is a definitive proof of their cinematographic skills, their respect for the comics fans and their knowledge of the cinema and of the source material. But that's just my opinion.
I don't think it's a good movie -- far from it, actually --, but I can see some value in it. It's clear Snyder has a vision all of his own and is not just some yes-man, he simply didn't know how to formulate his speech. He's much better with action/visuals than with script. The whole movie lacks structure, cohesion and takes itself too seriously at parts, considering how over-the-top Lex Luthor is, for instance. But I'll agree there are some outstanding moments on the film -- hell, I'd risk saying it has some of the best sequences in a superhero film this year. But the whole didn't work well for me. I liked that I saw it, for I wasn't bored during any of it to be honest, but there's so much in this movie that made me cringe.
The themes there dealing with is serious. What do you expect? A cringe joke thrown in now and again for a good laugh? Sorry. This isn't Marvel. Lex.. Was based on the comics. He wasn't over the top. His erratic nature was based on Superman: Birthright.
Basically this movie was never bad it brought important moments through history and comics zack is basically saying look around know this worlds past it's history know Dc comics is history that's what this movie is about being smart strong and be good be a hero
ADAM 101 Actually BvS wasn't actually a commercial product, it was a piece of beatifully crafted piece of comic book art in motion, well disguised as an commercial movie. Yeah, sometimes was confusing and sometimes it didn't make sense, but good art often doesn't make logical sense and yet your mind and soul can't stop rave about it. WB bosses are fully aware Zack Snyder knows how to craft such monumental pieces of art and that's why they trusted him wit the creation of DCEU.
I also noticed what might be a allusion to paganism in batmans character. He's holding a spear while one of eyes is blinded in the fight scene. Similar to the Norse God odin who had one eye and a spear called gungnir. His cave where he does research is also similar to hlidskjalf, the throne of odin where he can overlook every place and see what's happening. His visions of a possible apocalyptic future mirrors odins knowledge of ragnarök etc. I don't know if it was intentional but perhaps batman represent the pagan God while superman is the Christian one. Just a thought.
in time, many of the people who say today that the movie is shit its going to realice that is actually one of the best heroes movie ever, it had so many layers, so many dialogues with a meaning bigger than any marvel movie, so many beatiful scenes... Zack Snyder its way ahead of this times...
Personally thought movie was phenomenal. Took on a task no one else was willing to. Brought the comics to life like never before. Almost page for page. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Snyder
😢😢 Iam crying. BvS was a great movie it has emotions, message and a deeper meaning. I dont know why people don't see that. Salute to Zack Snyder... I hope he will be back directing Justice League....
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Unfortunately, not everyone has the ability to recognize the genius of an artist who thinks outside of patterns. Go Snyder!
Just because you like it , doesn't mean to everyone has to
It's CRIMINAL how underrated this movie is!!!
It begins and ends with funerals... Both changed Bruce Wayne
One sparks the beginning of batman, the other the rebirth of batman
This movie is legit an art.
5:47 It starts with the birth of Batman and ends with the rebirth of Batman
Nicely stated!
:)
Both initiated by a sacrifice.
Well this is what Zack Synder is doing for his trilogy copying the structure of the The Dark Knight trilogy, The Beginning, The Fall, and This Rise. While also adding his own twist with The Birth, The Death and The Rebirth (very Jesus like) of Superman, other DC characters like Batman and Wonder Woman, and even the world they live in.
Man of Steel is the beginning of Superman, starts with a birth of Clark and ends with the birth of Superman, it is birth/opening this world to Aliens and Metahumans.
BVS is the fall of Superman in the public eye and in himself, features a fallen Batman from is glory days, a fallen Wonder Woman who doesn't believe in man kind (the solo film being her The Beginning film, BVS being her Fall, JL being her Rise), begins with a death of the Wayne's and end with the death of Superman. The public/media/government not trusting/fallen Superman and Metahumans (SS could also count as that).
JL (mostly guessing now) will be the Rise/Rebirth of Superman from his grave, Rebirth of Batman going back to his glory days, Wonder Woman's Rebirth into trusting humanity again, Rebirth of humanity trusting in superheroes, the Rise of the Justice League, the Rebirth of protects/gods of planet Earth (as the beginning of the film will have a flash back to the old gods like Zeus, this comes from the set reports), will start with a rebirth of Batman (which is hinted at the end of BVS) and ends with the rebirth of Superman(which will allow them to both go on to their solo films like the characters that the fans/haters/moaners want them to be).
Zack Synder was brought in to do a Superman trilogy that would work like the DK trilogy that I mentioned above, so you can see where he constructed it by having the origin as The Beginning, The Death of Superman storyline being The Fall and the Return of Superman being The Rise. Then the first Avengers film came out and changed everything into building a cinematic universe. So I can see the last one of his superman trilogy ending like Dark Knight Rises where they hint at a new Batman with John Blake, but instead having 4 new Supermen come along like in the comic book storyline. Hey but now they've swapped the Supermen with the Justice League, that's not bad.
Yes, well thought. Terrio told before that Man of Steel, Batman v Superman and Justice League are sort of a trilogy. And even though we watched the birth of Superman, his fall and now we will se his rebirth, they are working on a Man of Steel sequel.
you missed the part when superman is dead in hands of lois with batman and wonder woman to the left and right. That's a clear reference to Michelagelo's "Pietà"
I'm surprised that wasn't included.
Bruce Wayne thats quite true actually. Like even quentin Tarantino was complaining about how hateful eight wasnt getting any screening space in one LAs biggest cinemas thanks to disney paying extra money to only show star wars to audiences.
chaos lord zemo was a failed plot villan nothing else well what more can you expect from villans from marvel movies for your information wonder women is the only movie to come close to dar knight ratings except logan,winter soilder was the best marvel hadto offer,ww was way ahead of that movie in terms on ratings,praise etc
pffff if you liked civil war more (or in general) the one who has a problem is you. Listen, let's do this you go watch your beloved disney movies where everything is a superficial fairytale and an overused forrmula that never gets old for people with no cultural bagage; and we, the adults, keep watching some movies that attempt at least to look for something more than jokes and happy endings in peace, ok?
Sorry kid but those complains are really stupid (but you're right with suicide squad, that movie was a big pile of shit). The first step to apreciate art is to actually apreciate it as it is and not as we wish it to be, try to not have so much prejudice next time. You got to see the difference between bitchin and making a critic judgment about someone else work.
Underrated film and overhated
@Studio Autio lmao
@@saisrujan9292 what is so funny about the truth?
Studio Autio
How's MCU got anything to do with this? Looks like you clearly have a different goal here.
Lmao
@@anurodhpathak9725 Cinematography is different than good plot. The only mcu movies with good cinematography are civil war, and the avengers trilogy.
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge just how beautiful this movie is....?!
It's cool if you don't like the films.
But understand that it was always the plan even before BvS was released in theaters by Chris Terrio that tone would change. Tone/arc is also established in MoS speech by Jor-El.
"They will race behind you" - MoS
"They will stumble, they will fall" - BvS
"They will join you in the Sun" - Justice League
The character motivations are there. Lex says it. To the Senator and to Superman on the rooftop. Batman also utters his motivations to Alfred on multiple occasions. It's characters studies and how these people (and the world) are effected by Superman's appearance 18 months ago.
I'm a big fan of these characters too. I love and have seen a large majority of what you have listed. Still, I think Zack & the actors truly understand these characters. Again, all I can say is it's part of the DCEU gameplan. Chris Terrio openly said before BvS even premiered, that BvS was DARK in tone. He cited just like Wrath of Khan, or Empire Strikes Back, that BvS was the darkest in the series and Justice League would be lighter and optimistic again. Which fits. In this world, like every comic or tv show we read, they reinvent. In this reinvention, Man of Steel is seen as Action Comic #1. It's the alien arrival. Then it's the reaction to it in BvS. From Batman's perspective, to Wonder Woman's, to Lex's, to the government. What better way for Superman to prove that he'd die for this world than actually doing so by the end of the movie? It starts this whole conversation of Rebirth. Rebirth because Superman INSPIRED Wonder Woman to come back out of the shadows and fight again. INSPIRED Bruce to be Batman again, not the killer and vengeful vigilante (which will be addressed in Justice League as reported by many articles online). Superman INSPIRES Batman and Wonder Woman to unite and stand together as they unite the Justice League. The Justice League isn't even a THING. Metahumans are not known to the public. Only news coverage is Superman and the Bat. But Justice League serves as a coming out party and an introduction to hope, heroes, and inspiration for the world. "They will join you in the Sun." Just look at the Justice League banner, the sun is rising. The night is darkest before the DAWN (of Justice). It's all coming together and once the Justice League is united and reveals itself to the world, I'm 100% positive that the DCEU will begin to look A LOT like the characters, comics, and TV shows we know. It's Justice League Begins. It's superheroes begins. I have faith that this is where the roads are leading.
this guys clearly doesnt know what he is talking about lol..: :-p
The best part about this version of batman is that they respect him enough to let him be wrong. So many takes on the character these days have him as the infallible source of internet memes and make everyone around him stupid so he can be smart.
Snyder and terrio let batman be wrong so him making the right decisions has value. They let him spend the majority of the doomsday fight just barely staying alive so that his lone contribution at the end matters.
+RXdash78 This is the best live-action Batman character portrayal I've seen after the one in The Dark Knight. Even if we include portrayals in all media, this would be in my top 5.
Excalibur (1981) - the most favorite movie Zack Snyder. He said this in an interview.
4:41 I've seen this scene from a movie. Never thought that it was Excalibur until now.
Flashback FilmMaking there is also a scene like that in 300.
Pol Van den Bleek qqq&
Flashback FilmMaking i don't find the song
Drakseal 278 its the dark knight theme cover on piano
no one ever believes me when I say how awesome this movie is! but I don't care what others think, this is art in motion
Like Uwe Ball movies
I agree. People are retarded. Why would they understand such a simple and yet complicated movie.
becaue it kinda references some other things but the rest of the ovie is terrible and dumb... none of these reference can make this movie good.
JAZ Session clearly you do care because you made a public comment. The hypocrisy is strong
That's the problem, he doesn't make scenes (that a film requries), only moments.
BvS will eventually earn his place in the history of movie making, just like Blade Runner, which was also lambasted by critics back in the day. With every passing year the people will realise more and more it's fundamental cinematic value, mark my words.
20+ years from now BvS will be remembered, separate from the pile of samey comic book movies that aren't aging well. Maybe not hailed as a classic, but worth revisiting
Yeah the preference over cinematography and visuals over storytelling
@Mr. Cottam crazy how i constantly see people like you saying shit about the film but never truly explain. Just tip toe around everything lmao
Same here every day I learn something new about it. Like there are many ways you can interpret it.
Unlike blade runner, Comics book fandom is full of soy boys.
Zack knows how to deliver an iconographic storytelling. He is really capable of bringing things from comicbook pages to life. The only problem I find with his vision is his tendency to deconstruct characters and make us question their very nature. I may not find a grave problem with that, but most of the people won't agree with that for sure.
Critics disliked the dour tone, but that gut reaction, as honest as it might have been, blinded them to the beauty, power and sheer artfulness of this incredibly well-made film.
I think all critics recongnize his power with imagery e beautifull shots.
Goosebumps. Bvs inspired me to stand on what i believe in.
This was so good, I never realised that Batman v Superman dawn of justice began an ended with a funeral scene. That's so intense.
Every thing is intense to you Snyder cultists 😂😂,
Even " save martha " is
@@rocky3850
The Snyder kid hater has come 🙄
@@viniciusnogueira1756 i don't hate Snyder, i actually liked his justice league, i hate Snyder cultists who say mos and bvs are masterpieces and save martha is actually good scenes, i actually hate those type of cultists like you,
Also i don't like how Snyder made Batman kill , made him unreasonable, and made Superman emotionless who can't even save his own dad, Jonathan Kent saying you should have let those kids die, and superman having no regards for human property and human life in man of steel,
Yeah I don't like how Snyder portrayed those characters , how he portrayed wonder woman in bvs was pretty good, but other than that his portrayal of Superman and Batman is trash, and you cultists try to justify it
@@rocky3850 Tumbleweeds... nothing... nobody cares.
@@Whaddayamean13 you cared enough to reply
Man.. The more I see these...more my respect and love for Zack increases
This video proves just how much detail they put into this film. Minute details that sometimes viewers will miss. Like the way Clark softly took the rose from it's bouquet and gave it to Lois(softly as if one move from his finger can't destroy a building). To how slowly and carefully he opened the small door in the court room where he was going to be judged, not the time to be concerned about a door I might add.
Alex Ross is a great visual artist.
"Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice" is an underrated masterpiece.
You know that to say it is a masterpiece, all the people need to say it is a masterpiece,
Other day some people can say captain marvel is an underrated masterpiece, and we all know that's not the truth,
People can say infinity war or zsjl is a masterpiece, and i would agree with them
This movie is full of symbolism and great messages , very emotional and beautiful .
"The american conciousness died with Martin, Robert and John (Fitzgerald Kennedy)" - Perry White in BvS
Superman's funeral mirrored JFK's funeral.
SNYDER IS A GENIUS.
Is that what he said?! Because I've been wondering about that the whole time...I misheard and thought he said "Robert Martin Henshaw," haha. I was googling this guy and not finding anything and was always confused about this. I feel like you've cleared a fog in my head; thank you.
What scenes and character decisions are you even refering to? People throw out this stuff like it is a fact about the movie. What doesn't make sense? What doesn't connect? Who is making dumb decisions?
My experience in discussing this movie is that most problems people seem to have with it stem from them not remembering half of the explanatory dialogue from the movie or realizing that this is part of a bigger story and that some open questions will be solved in Justice League (something everyone accepts from Marvel by now).
iLoveSmartMovies the movie made sense imo. i don't need a bunch of derpy jokes and cynical one liners to enjoy a comic book movie
abonny I made my own edit of this movie. I cut 27 minutes out of it. It flows a lot better and nothing I cut out effects the core plot whatsoever. I may hazard a guess and say that that's the problem most people had.
Too many dreams, hallucinations and shameless sequel baiting.
Cut that all out, get to the core of the movie and stay there, and it's not so bad.
But any movie that's 174 minutes long and you can cut out 27 minutes without losing much, is NOT a masterpiece.
Try cut out 27 minutes of another 3 hour long film, like a Lord of the Rings movie, or The Godfather Part II
Also the Theatrical Cut was a piece of shit, which screwed up most peoples first impressions instantly turning them against the film. That movie was hollow, and guess what, even though it was shorter, most of the footage that I cut out of the Ultimate Cut was footage ALREADY IN the SHORTER Theatrical Version. If that isn't proof enough of the problems in this movie I don't know what is.
BvS is a piece of art! Is so sad that ignorant people don´t see the beauty of it!
Again, with the "You just didn't get it"-bullshit
sergio sergei Martha! Why you say Martha? My mom is Martha. NO! My mom is Martha! Oh our moms are both Martha. Yeah, we cool now 👬
soerism yeah but did you forget the whole beginning of the movie of where metropolis gets destroyed from Superman's battle with Zod? Batman did not trust Superman due to the sheer destruction and recklessness of it all. The quick shift in emotion (especially in the heightened stress levels) during the Batman vs Superman fight is purely for plot purposes and quite unrealistic. Superman pretty much leveled a whole city and it even had PTSD effects on Bruce. Plus they had obvious philosophy differences of how crime is dealt with. Which is why Superman went after Batman in the first place.
Now that Snyder is gone ! they start to understand the greatness of his vision for DC and good luck with stupid short minded director.. Wheldon !
Jesus christ these replies are exacty the kind of idiots who dont understand the movie
Deeper than any MCU movie that's for damn sure.
I agree its deeper than mcu movies, but if you mean to say this movie is better than the mcu films you are wrong. captain america civil war, infinity war, winter soldier, endgame and MANY are better than this film. this movie is garbage compared to mcu films. If its deeper, doesn't mean its better than mcu movies.
MCU its just lazy.
@@eduardspawn The mcu movies by Favereau, Watiti, Joss, and Russos are the only good ones.
@@shreyasbytes6621" deeper doesn't mean better" what kind of an ignorant statement is that , so one layered marvel movies , with its one dimensional acting , that is pointed out by great directors like Martin Scorsese and Steven Spielberg is great because it's not deep? 😀🤡
@@GaneshPalraj1991 Martin and Spielberg aren't even aware that DC exists 🤣🤣
During the film, Bruce, when he goes to visit his parents' grave, always wanders a little lost in the woods.
But at the end of the film he finds a purpose to pursue, to fight for. When he leaves the Smallville Cemetery there is a road for him to follow.
Zack Snyder is awesome!
You know, I think Zack Snyder reads more comics than the people who say he doesn't read comics. Especially when it pertains to his filmmaking.
He doesn't read comics, otherwise he would have understood superman and Batman, and not make Batman kill, and made Superman optimistic and hopeful, and a beacon of hope not a building destroying emotionless person, who thinks himself as hero,
Let's be real why Batman and Superman didn't like each other in bvs,
Superman don't like Batman because Batman brand kill people which is normally a death sentence in prison,
And Batman don't like superman because how he fought zod which destroyed metropolis, which killed many people,
Both of these people are hypocrites who don't see what they did wrong
@@rocky3850 If you hate Batffleck for killing, then you must hate every Batman except George Clooney. If you hate the destruction of the fight in Man of Steel, than you must hate every fight Superman has ever had in comics or animation.
And yes, both men are being, if not hypocritical, than judgemental. And by the end of the film they both realize it;
"Bruce. I was wrong; you have to listen to me." Superman before his fight against Batman.
"I failed him; in life. I won't fail him in death." Batman after Superman's funeral.
Furthermore, Superman has not changed. He still saves as many people as he can. It's the world that is judging him because of his power; because that is how the modern world is. Whenever a billionaire gives money to a charity, our first instinct is to assume they have an ulterior motive, not that they are doing it to be kind.
Finally, this Batman is based off the Dark Knight Returns comic, which, if you had read, you would know that Batman is a psychotic hypocrite who hears voices and justifies everyone he kills. The animated film is great, but it is not accurate to the source material.
@@rocky3850The movie isn't saying that that's who the characters are 😂. It's a commentary on how people endlessly jabber on about what a hero "should" be, which is what leads to them being divided and disillusioned. The people saying "Superman and Batman should NEVER kill!" is missing the point of the movie 😂.
This movie just keeps getting better and better.
I'm loving this movie more and more.
This shows how much thought process and research went on for making this film.
I think we are not yet ready for this kind of movies.
Maybe someday.
Someday!!
All hail ZACK!!
Where did you get the piano version of the dark knight score? i can't find it.
Same
I need it's source, too. Hopefully someone uploaded it here.
Patrick Pietschmann on his youtube channel
Or, just download its mp3 using tubemate
and if someone could get the score, it would be much appreciated
god damm you , you beautiful son of a bitch , Zack Snyder. batman vs superman the extended cut, is my movie of the year 2016!!!
by far.
Movie of the century for me
snake so other people do get it
This movie changed my whole perception of what movies should be. It is flawed but no other movie has stuck with me so long after leaving the theater as this one did. Something about the images and the experience of how the film moves lingered with me. It was tone-driven. Characters didn't just explain what they were doing to you and why. You were sort of left to form your own interpretations. A rare cinematic experience in a sea of predictable superhero checkbox movies made for children.
Zack Snyder
kids can say whatever they want about this movie
for me, this is one of the best superheroes movie
with the awesome symbolic, drama and great shoots
PART 3: BATMAN AND LEX PARALLELS V SUPERMAN
BVS's Lex is most superficially different from previous incarnations e.g. Hackman and Spacey's real estate Lex and Rosenbaum's suave-boy-billionaire Lex.
Eisenberg is a more technocratic interpretation of the character. However, what really makes this Lex: is his perchance for wordplay and blatant contextual malapropism. On a surface level, his reasoning for a deterrent against beings like Superman is reasonable. It also parallels Bruce’s own contingency plan though both men’s viewpoints are severely flawed and it is most obvious with Bruce.
With Lex, it takes a bit more time to unravel and we get that when Senator Finch visits his mansion to announce she’s declined his kryptonite importation license.
Lex wants power and lots of it; he's got earthly power and now he craves godly power - thanks in part to Superman’s presence - and he doesn't care how he gets it. So when Lex asks the senator whether to call her June - mainly to reassert him - and the senator seeing through his act basically slaps him down i.e.
"You can call me whatever you like. Take a bucket of piss and call it granny's peach tea, take a weapon of assassination and call it a deterrent, you won't fool a fly or me. I'm not gonna drink it, " Lex quickly latches onto that: because guess what?
Lex likes to use other people's words and actions against them. In effect, the moment the senator dared come to him in person and announce that that she’s onto him (the kryptonite clearly wasn’t an innocent deterrent) and that she understood exactly what kind of man he was; was her death knell.
One cannot take the court room bombing in isolation as that entire sequence is a power play on Lex's part. Lex literally and figuratively played God; like some malevolent trickster deity.
The sequence also highlights the importance of naming things correctly or calling things as they are. Lex doesn't like calling things what they are. He’d rather obfuscate, belittle or use highfalutin puns to mask his true intentions. This is a man in search of power and godly power at that; to execute his will and he achieves that by blowing up the senate.
This is a call-back to the grandiose painting in his father's study. Lex knows the painting is the wrong way round but Lex looks at the world the wrong way round so he leaves it as is. Heck he says it himself: "(...) that (painting) should be upside down."
This blatant misrepresentation is something Lex does a lot of and each time the music and the entire mise-en-scene captures that. The wonky reworking of Superman's theme further shows that Lex sees the world through a fractured glass plane and he makes no attempt to redeem himself.
He even goes as far as to completely misrepresent Superman on that fabulous helipad scene, then creates Doomsday by desecrating Zod’s body and of course, with batman whom he considered his knight - how wrong - though it is easy to see why:
1.) They are both orphans
2.) They are both from rich families
3.) They run both legacy companies
4.) They both engage in philanthropy e.g. Lex’s library donations and Bruce’s charities
5.) They both experience existential terror after the Zod/Superman battle
Yet how Bruce and Lex deal with this world changing event really boils down the fundamental differences between them, and it comes down to their level of interpersonal/emotional attachments.
And people claim that Eisenberg's Lex is nothing more than a cheap Joker knockoff; this was a great analysis
Exactly, while Bruce deals with his PTSD through rage filled vengeance, lex' existential crisis is more of a self indulgence he plays with a blue ball calling it the blue planet because he wants power and until Superman dies he won't be the "man of tomorrow" The problem with the movie is it expects people to understand everything and considering people thought Batman left supes because their mother have the same name sigh it can't be helped lol
This is true art. We didn't pull out positives and complex questions this movie raises from our asses. This movie has it all and if u aren't willing to look deeper you don't have say in this. Negativity comes from not understand the purpose and ideas behind this film. Every scene has a meaning and not even a single second is wasted. Best CBM ever created and the only thing Zack got was hate. Bravo "DC fans", bravo!
But it's "cringe" 😂. The people saying "Batman and Superman should NEVER kill!" is missing the point of the movie. It's a brilliant commentary on how people's expectations of what a hero should be leads to them being divided and disillusioned. All the haters are doing is proving that the movie is right 😂.
@@circular_entropy3455 The movie is right. The only cringe thing is to say that movies should be like cartoons... Batman throwing a sharp object at criminal's face and knocking him out? Really? That would be the goofiest thing to do in a movie. In cartoons superman crushes into so many buildings for no reason. More than in man of steel where he was losing the fight. People can be really stupid sometimes. Movies and cartoons are not the same.
Some say Zack Snyder only copies from comics.
I say meanwhile he is influenced by them, he increases the viewers interest in discovering those comics.
Well said! He never sought to just replicate the same things we’ve gotten from comics. He wanted to be inspired by them to add something new to the cake. Those who think these movies are “products” will never understand
Critics and audiences didn’t see the pure cinematic quality in this film. Most took it as just another comic-book film competing with Marvel but Snyder clearly included so many layers that the film demands to be dissected over and over again. Once the Marvel reign has passed through I believe people will truly begin to appreciate (the director’s cut) of this film. It’s truly ahead of its time and I’m not afraid to say it’s one of my favorite films of all time.
best comic book movie of all time.
Snyder, you are a genius
MR. AWESOME noo, not according to most people.
Civil War is the same movie if you really want to break it down.
(Which means it's just as excellent as BvS)
civil war was garbage , only kids love this kind of crap
There's more than one way to make a franchise and film. BvS is an excellent version of a versus film.
DESHI BASARA ohh your the guy that thinks nolan films arr masterpiece lol no civil war is not how how you a movie but a comedy
I'm a proud Zack Snyder fan and always will be
Whatever they say, this is an extraordinary movie.
Quite a few were missed from this video. Luthor’s painting of Milton’s Paradise Lost. The story of which perfectly mirrors the story of Lex Luthor himself. When Batman holds the spear to Superman’s chest. A reference to the painting of St. Michael vanquishing Satan by Raphael. At this point, Bruce has deluded himself into believing that he is in fact killing an entity of pure evil, making him the saviour of the world. What about the frame of Lex Luthor on top of the tower looking at the sunset as a reference to the painting ‘The Conqueror’ of Napoleon. The death of Superman mirroring 2 distinct paintings of the death of Christ. Young Bruce ascending into the sea of bats mirroring ‘Paradise’ from Dante’s Paradiso.
BVS is an ART
bvs is a form of art
They forgot the allusion to the cover of Frank Miller's 'The Dark Knight' cover, during the Doomsday scene Batman uses his grappling gun to get on the side of a building and lightning flashes behind him.
They took me to the light, what a beautiful lie..
This movie is great. GREAT! And I feel like, it time, will be regarded as one of the best superhero movies of all time. It was way too deep and too much of a "film" for a superhero movie than we deserved. People got so accustomed to the popcorn popping "summer blockbuster" of the Marvel variety that they saw this and somehow couldn't wrap their heads around the themes and what the film was trying to achieve.
You have a pretty bad picture of the situation
Well retarded people want to go to movies to laugh and turn their brain off. It's too hard for them to think while watching movie, and ask questions and even blow their minds. This is the society we live in. People don't care about facts nor thinking. It's about laughs and explosions.
Aged like fine Wine 🍷
The works of Alex Ross are great.
iLoveSmartMovies he didn't say that
@Bruce Wayne mindless idiot? Cut me a break
BvS. PROBABLY the best cinecomic ever made.
Snyder, thank you.
A good movie lives in our minds for a long time, just like this.
A disappointment lives in people's mind like Thor the dark world, and Thor love and thunder
@@rocky3850Cringe
I like the symbolism , the allegory and the messages of this video . The music is emotional and activates the soul .
as I was watching, I knew there were several references, you could tell there was something given the outstanding scenario, but a lot of them were overlooked by most people.
This movie is a masterpiece! A few critics gave it bad reviews created a snowball effect and people hopped on a bandwagon. Many people that I know, didn't watch the movie because of this. They said it's trash because they heard it was trash. That is until I sat them down and made them watch it. They were so confused as to why it got bad reviews. Still bugs me till today lol.
Same
And they said Zack was a bad director
And this video somehow proves that he isn't?
Its dc
@@Dynomafia139 *YES*
The masses do not have same level of IQ & EQ. Some subtle creations are understood and liked by a portion of population unfortunately. Btw, Larry Fong, the cinematographer of this movie too needs to be credited along with Zack.
Why is the movie so dark and full of symbolism? I dunno, have you read the comics?
Haron Takes Five even marvel comics are dark but most people don't read comics and just accept vanilla marvel movies
Kaz Kinnikuman yeah..the movie to me is closest to the comics with references all over the place.
Haron Takes Five The problem with the film is that the comics aren't always dark, especially not the Superman comics. There is always a lighthearted tint to the drama before or after, minus some moments that warrant extreme seriousness, to help keep the tone accesible. This movie is dark for the sake of being dark. It didn't earn the right to do the things it did, unlike the comics.
Alex Hill this movie isn't dark for the sake of it, there's a point to all of it. it's been known for a while that bvs was intended to be the darkest chapter in order for justice league to have more weight and to bring the light/hope to the forefront. it was intentionally designed to get the dark stuff out of the way. even batman killing had a purpose, the purpose was to have superman inspire him, become Batman again, and form the league.
Chris Terrio said before bvs was released that MoS, BvS:UE, and JL is one big superman story. it also parallels with Christ. MoS representing the birth, BvS with death (hence why it's darker), and JL being his resurrection.
basically the contrast for JL to be more hopeful and inspiring was why BvS was so dark.
My main problem with that is that the film didn't earn the right to do the things it did. Even if it is a Christ allegory, it isn't a good excuse to copy the Death of Superman story in the second film. Superman never really was a strong Christ allegory in the comics anyway, with the two only strongly sharing a signal of hope.
2:03 That music from The Dark Knight movie. And the scene in which the moment Superman stands up. Accidentally but Perfectly an emotional moment.
Seeing things like this makes me appreciate the film more even though it didn't live up to my expectations.
bvs is the most underrated blockbuster of 2016
*of all time
Joshcoshbagosh Bulllllshit.
iLoveSmartMovies yes
do bi I accept it..
BvS greatest movie ,but really underrated
Comes in genius like Zack
Okay one more thing that I noticed - In all the scenes when Bruce Wayne is walking through a grassy field, there is no discernable path to his destination. For example, when he is walking towards the Wayne Mausoleum, or when he is walking towards Wayne Manor. He is walking forward, but with no resolute path - he is truly lost.
But after Superman's death inspired him, and he finally realizes what he has to do to redeem himself from the loss that he suffered and tragedy, he finds a path - while walking away from the funeral.
I didn't realized... It's a great point of view. Thanks for sharing this, i appreciate.
There is plenty of imagery that shows that Batman is on the deep end in this movie, so much that it's annoying. It's making me say "I KNOW WE GET IT, BATMAN IS ON THE EDGE." frequently.
I've read Superman : Peace on Earth. It's one of my favourite comic books and I love Batman v Superman so much.
Nobody could ever capture the art of these heroes like Zack Snyder does
Someone wrote someplace in negative review that this movie will acquire cult status as it has layers upon layers. True that.
Doubt it.
Well, if it doesn't...It will be go down as being infamously known as the movie that divided critics and fans alike.
There is more than one way to acquire cult status. Shining, Dune, Full Metal Jacket, Donnie Darko... most David Lynch films - They all started out as critical bashed or divided.
Give this 10 years. It will be called one of the best comic book movies ever made. I'm calling it now.
Maybe I'm wrong... but I don't think so. People are already starting to look deeper into it. It's a matter of time.
abonny Again, doubt it.
DianaMera Doubt it.
Most artistic movie of all time. So many references.
#GOATSnyder
Captain america is proud
"Most artistic movie of all time"
Lfmao
MASTERPIECE!!
I really hate how they had to cut the movie at the theatre then give us an extended cut when the DVD came out.
Great video!!!
There was also the small frame of Batman aiming his grapnel gun while hanging off the side of a building during the Doomsday battle. When the lightning strikes behind him, it's a reference to The Dark Knight Returns cover. It's brief, but it's there.
Also inspirations from Frank Miller’s novels, Doomsday battles, Even the corpse Superman in space. Zack Snyder is a visionary genius.
Thank you for making this video. Not only it is highlighting how genius and accurate the direction was managed for BvS but it made me want to own every single work by Alex Ross. The realism of his artstyle is absolutely remarkable.
Thank you :)
Didn't realize that there were so many references and images inspired by Alex Ross in this movie. Good video man
BvS is a masterpiece. I'm sorry if that upsets you but it's true.
Yeah Tommy Wiseau's "The Room" is also a masterpiece, like it or not.
What do mean I need arguments? It's a masterpiece because I say so! Even though the story was weak, the characters flat andtheir motivations hard to follow, questionable casting choices, but, there was some obvious homages. That's something, right?
nicholas alexander an opinion there buddy
nicholas alexander lol masterpiece. After nearly killing each other, Batman stops the last blow because Superman said Martha and from then on they become partners. That's a masterpiece baby. Who knew philosophical differences could be trumped by having mom's that have the same name.
Dinglebearry It's okay to be shallow. :)
Dinglebearry sure use the same excuse everyone uses because they had their brains turned off. If you can't understand the amazingness behind that scene then look it up.
when i see the fans who defend this movie i always remembe the quote: "People are still good" - Bruce Wayne
This movie had such a great potential... and Affleck was Batman of my dream - he kills the shit out of villains!
Every filmmaker has their own set of inspirations. But what sets them apart is learning from them and using it in your own way. And I feel sorry for those people who criticize Zack Snyder and any director.
To those people I'd like to say: Why don't you make your own movies and then judge who is better?
Box office collections doesn't matter. The thing which matters is executing your own vision and creating your mark (style to be more specific). There are much more complex things which are beyond our understanding like years of experience, and the culture you're influenced by and so on.
Let's take a moment and appreciate these filmmakers. Thank you *Flashback FilmMaking* for an excellent video. Keep posting good stuff.
Note: As you said the beginning and end has funerals which symbolizes death which is the symbol of the movie.
This movie has a lot of symbols and reference.
It's a piece of art
Another bit about the two funerals: both inspired Bruce to be a hero. His parents dying inspired him to become Batman, and Superman dying inspired him to build the Justice League. I'm glad we got a movie that showed what would happen if Bruce fell into the "abyss" he mentions in the comics. I hope JL shows his efforts to redeem himself.
This is the work of a film director who understands his craft, but unfortunately was born in a genereation who wants lesser works.
I love how you still use the Dark Knight trilogy background music because it's the superior soundtrack
Eugenia Wong "superior sountrack" lol no
I hope time will heal Zack's pain and make justice to this master piece..
You know captain marvel is a masterpiece,
See none of us are making any sense
@@rocky3850it will
And haters say Zack doesn't understand comic books. Sure!!
The Ultimate Edition is the movie we were meant to see.
I just wish that people can understand this movie and stop criticizing it
This is a great video for a great film. The complaints from the Marvel fans are killing me. I guess they need someone saying "Underoos" in order for it to be a good film.
pfft, civil war was still better than this film. this movie is just better than justice league and suicide squad
Civil war its just a bad joke for possers, BvS its about and epic journey between two sides of the same coin.
@@eduardspawn so what , MCU is and always will be better than DCEU doesn't matter what you think.
@@eduardspawn stfu dc fanboy, mcu is always the best
@@shreyasbytes6621 now say it without cry, most part of the MCU its a waste of time, #changemymind .
Can't wait for ZSJL
And there's still people who say that this movie was bad...
Let me laugh...
So putting out references to older much better movies and comics automatically makes your movie good?
Anyway, I consider Batman v Superman as a good movie. He did not deserve his unjust and unjustified lynching.
Sure, it still has its imperfections, but what I am trying to say is that Snyder, Goyer and Terrio could have been content with making a basic superhero blockbuster film, without any symbolism or cultural references (like about 99% of Marvel's inpersonal films). Putting out references is a definitive proof of their cinematographic skills, their respect for the comics fans and their knowledge of the cinema and of the source material.
But that's just my opinion.
I don't think it's a good movie -- far from it, actually --, but I can see some value in it. It's clear Snyder has a vision all of his own and is not just some yes-man, he simply didn't know how to formulate his speech. He's much better with action/visuals than with script. The whole movie lacks structure, cohesion and takes itself too seriously at parts, considering how over-the-top Lex Luthor is, for instance. But I'll agree there are some outstanding moments on the film -- hell, I'd risk saying it has some of the best sequences in a superhero film this year. But the whole didn't work well for me. I liked that I saw it, for I wasn't bored during any of it to be honest, but there's so much in this movie that made me cringe.
The themes there dealing with is serious. What do you expect? A cringe joke thrown in now and again for a good laugh? Sorry. This isn't Marvel. Lex.. Was based on the comics. He wasn't over the top. His erratic nature was based on Superman: Birthright.
This doesn't make the film any better LOL.
Wonderful video...
I'm From The Future. They Still Talk About This Movie In 2050.
And Yes, We Have A Farm Of Unicorns Now.
well well...
You forgot to mention why batman used spear instead of any other weapon! That was the best symbolism for me! 👌
Great to see this movie inspired by to many true event's wow
Its an absolute master piece!!😍😍
Basically this movie was never bad it brought important moments through history and comics zack is basically saying look around know this worlds past it's history know Dc comics is history that's what this movie is about being smart strong and be good be a hero
ADAM 101 Actually BvS wasn't actually a commercial product, it was a piece of beatifully crafted piece of comic book art in motion, well disguised as an commercial movie. Yeah, sometimes was confusing and sometimes it didn't make sense, but good art often doesn't make logical sense and yet your mind and soul can't stop rave about it. WB bosses are fully aware Zack Snyder knows how to craft such monumental pieces of art and that's why they trusted him wit the creation of DCEU.
Like it or not, BvS is a beautiful looking movie
I also noticed what might be a allusion to paganism in batmans character. He's holding a spear while one of eyes is blinded in the fight scene. Similar to the Norse God odin who had one eye and a spear called gungnir. His cave where he does research is also similar to hlidskjalf, the throne of odin where he can overlook every place and see what's happening. His visions of a possible apocalyptic future mirrors odins knowledge of ragnarök etc. I don't know if it was intentional but perhaps batman represent the pagan God while superman is the Christian one. Just a thought.
in time, many of the people who say today that the movie is shit its going to realice that is actually one of the best heroes movie ever, it had so many layers, so many dialogues with a meaning bigger than any marvel movie, so many beatiful scenes... Zack Snyder its way ahead of this times...
Personally thought movie was phenomenal. Took on a task no one else was willing to. Brought the comics to life like never before. Almost page for page. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Snyder
1:24 Holy molly this cake! That's just smart.
😢😢 Iam crying. BvS was a great movie it has emotions, message and a deeper meaning. I dont know why people don't see that. Salute to Zack Snyder... I hope he will be back directing Justice League....