The LeBron Playoff Angle | The Bill Simmons Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Kevin Wildes to talk about some LeBron James what-ifs in the playoffs.
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Petition for wildes to join full-time.
Wildes deserves better.
Wilde's da man.put him in coach
Rescue him from Morning tv
@Carbonhammer he's doing great on first things first
Why? He has a three jobs now on the same show. Let the man live.
Wildes is really the best thing in sports talk for the past few years. Awesome show!
Heyo! It’s Wildes, the bad boy of FTF! Leader of the show. Best chestnut hair in the business.
“Chestnut hair.” 😂😂😂
I had no idea Wildes was in this but I immediately wanted to watch the whole thing
Wildes is dope. Huge fan of his funny antics.
THIS! Please make this a podcast! I could watch you and Wildes go back and forth forever! Please make this a podcast. You can host 2, look how awesome Mind the Game is and it doesn't conflict with JJ's other one. Please Bill!
get some friends dude
It’s not a gimmick, it’s a branding opportunity
I love Wildes!! Good pod 🤗
It’s as likely as the Wizards winning the championship this year. Why discuss it?
Wildes = president of the handsome man’s club
i love Wildes and Bill together
This is how me and my brother be talking after our eyes get red and heavy
Wilds is the real GOAT!
Then why are you disrespecting his name?
I’d do anything for the Lakers to beat the Celtics in the finals just to see Bill’s meltdown
He wouldn’t do the pod for at least a week. If you want to enjoy Bill’s misery, go watch how LA fans heckled Bill Simmons during the 2010 finals vs the Lakers. Funny AF 🤣🤣🤣
bill doing his best to reverse jinx the nuggets
Only way lakers win is jokic gets injured
Even then, Jamal Murray will just go crazy and the Lakers will still lose lol
First experience with pod-Wildes. He rules!
I like wildes. His personality is unique
People would kill LeBron even more if he was 4-7 in the Finals.
I’m a huge Bron homer, but I don’t see a victory. Not enough defense. If Vando was healthy and we had a decent backup big, maybe. The problem is with D-Lo out there we suck on defense. Maybe Gabe Vincent has an all-time series, him or Reaves.
You suck on defense because of the guy you’re a ‘homer’ for
It’s mad how people don’t watch the tape. He picks 5/6 possessions a game to go hard for, and the rest of the time leaves his team playing 4-4.5 on 5.
@@roykeane1922 you are wrong
@@purplestate are you watching you bum? Constantly getting abused
@@purplestate It's sarcasm. The odd troll guy is simply mocking the casual fans who dont waatch the games.
Our biggest weakness on the defensive end is our backcourt. We give up more points to opposing guards than any other position and our backcourt of Reaves and Dlo are ranked near the bottom in defense.
LeBron due to his age and offense responsibilities is mainly a help defender within our scheme and hes functioned better than expected for a 21 season veteran.
We definitely need more size at the Center position becuse weve been mauled by the elite centers and given up way too many 2nd chance points and rebounds
Well, this aged well.
Boston fans accuse refs of helping the Lakers.
Shocker.
Lakers have shot 1104 more free throws in the last 2 years than their opponents. Is that enough evidence?
@@openmike4559 literally no. It’s enough to start looking into it tho
@@openmike4559Having 2 of the most physical dominant players in today’s NBA isn’t obvious why they get foul calls? Nobody says $hit when Embiid shoots 20 free throws
Lakers fans deny reality.
Shocker.
@@NickMachado F BOSTON AND ALL THEIR PEOPLE
I’ll say this. I think Wildes confidence in the Nuggets is real and probably the smartest pick. But also, he knows Nick would be insufferable if the Lakers pull this and the championship off lol.
Nick would spin another sweep into a victory for the Lakers anyways.
Today’s Nuggets.. yesterday’s Spurs.. let’s talk about it.
Come on Lakers!
"LeBron gets a lot of calls" - says the jealous Boston fan - DeRozan, Banchero, Lilliard, Booker even AD all average more FTAs than LeBron on similar FGAs per game. Butler takes way fewer shots & averages more. If you're still spouting this BS, you're just admitting you either don't watch or don't know as much as you think about ball
or they're openly Bron haters. 🐐
Lebron should be called for all his offensive fouls and travellings, he travels on every drive to the basket.
Lebron is trash and the refs need to give him calls for the nba to keep him marketable
Between this and First Things First, we might as well call Kevin Wildes “The Homer Whisperer”
This is the Kevin Wildes podcast with guest Bill Simmons
Bill, you can’t make excuses. YOU, BLEWWWWWWWWWW IT!!!!! 18-1
MPJ's just had another incident with a different brother. One of his younger brothers just got sentenced to 6 years in prison for vehicular homicide. Really hope the family gets some help smh lot of tragedy there
The difference with Brady is that people would actually get excited, not exasperated, by a deep run by Lebron
LeBron was gassed in the 4th quarter vs the Pelicans in the play-in game, how is he going to survive a 7 game series at altitude with Denver having homecourt?
there’s is like 2-3 days between each game he’ll be fine
@@landonharvell He couldn't last the full game at sea-level so he's going to be fine at altitude. Ok.
i already bought me broom....SWEEP SWEEP LePED LeGM LeThrowmyteammatesunderthebus LeFlop LeRefWhisperer
@@BigginsInAmericaBron is going to avail his Miami "rehab" coupons
Wasn't he guarding Zion in the Pelicans game? Guarding Aaron Gordon or Porter Jr will probably be easier.
Wildes looks like my drunk uncle
If I'm Sam Presti I'm using one of my 37 second round picks to take Bronnie in 2024 or 2025. Take a flyer; entice Dad to pass to SGA and Chet for 2 seasons. Win a ring where KD couldn't.
Hmmmm…..
100% agree, especially with Durant's comments earlier in the year where he whined about not being in the goat convo
Kd aint sh8t..f ed up part about okc is they can't keep all them rookies together after that rookie contract
Amo a Wildes, tienen que hacer un programa juntos
This narrative is why Nuggets fans are worried. It's the NBAs wet dream to have this last dance moment for him
What Nuggets fan do you know that thinks that?
Lebron looks old. He’s not doing it.
Is this what Lakers fans are telling themselves to prepare for the inevitable sweep?
Its funny how so many weird individuals think the NBA wants a "last dance" scenario with a Lakers team that lacks the pieces to actually win it all and even more funny that weirdos think this is close to LeBrons last season.
@@criticalthought4910 I mean, it's probably his second to last season. That's just a guess, but I don't think he'll stay around long enough to tarnish what he's already got.
I went to visit my wife’s grave with my kids and I couldn’t believe my eyes. LeFraud was digging up her grave to steal her wedding ring that was buried with her. He said he needed a real ring and didn’t know how else to get one. Shame on you LeFraud, get your own ring like the real GOAT Michael Jordan!!!
LeBron gets swept by the Nugs and then he heads to GSW. It's a better fit and Steph doesn't have to do EVERYTHING. It would be a great fit.
LeBron doesn't wanna play with Steph. He wants to end his career with more rings than curry, not the same amount
I like when Bill has guys he came up with on, he's so much looser and it just feels like a natural hangout. It sometimes feels like he's trying to get through his bullet points with other guests and can come off a bit rude or dismissive imo.
10:30 he had to mention Wemby. He just cannot effing do content without mentioning him anymore. So annoying!!!!!!
Why do you think a lot of people love Wemby? You think they actually watched Spurs games? Lol. It's... something. I do love Wemby, but I SADLY had to endure Spurs games when he was playing the 4.
It got better when the Spurs decided to actually try to win
LeBalco story ended in 2011 lol
Bill has to shoehorn a Wemby reference. 🙄
People’s logic about wanting to play Denver first “since you have to play them eventually” makes no sense, because in this hypothetical scenario, the teams they would be playing afterward avoided Denver by not playing them first 😂
So when Denver wins 4-1 can we end the LeBron is a real title contender cause it's been a joke his whole run in LA. He got his bubble gum ring let's just stop and turn the page.
🫧🤪🙃
Finals record 4-6…
The ring talk is so overblown. It’s a team sport
The LeBron legacy rehab project in full effect these days. Lebron sycophants desperately want to rewrite history and make Lebron the goat. Not gonna happen.
Facts
The Lakers get all the calls? The last three times AD had to leave games because of injury he was extremely obviously fouled and didn't get the call. The Lakers should get even more calls than they do. Lebron gets all the calls? He averaged less than 6 FT per game. Show me another player that goes inside as much as he does and shoots fewer free throws.
You being biased. They have shot 1100 more free-throw then th opponents over the past 2 years. That is by far the biggest margin by over 800 free-throw from the number 2 team..it's not even close.
@@dewanewelch1744 The Lakers attack the rim more aggressively than the other teams in the NBA. They will draw fouls; it's part of their game plan. Do they benefit from some ticky tack calls? Absolutely. Reaves is like a mini-Harden. Herky jerky movements that draws some whistles that shouldn't be fouls. There are times AD or Lebron get a favorable call, but you can almost always point to another call that quarter that was more obvious that they didn't get.
Wildes for Pres
Wildes the GOAT
LeBron angle is over in 4 games, relax
Feelin the outro
“LeBron gets calls”is one of the biggest false narratives about him currently from opposing critics. Watch the games. He’s been getting the Shaq treatment since 2019. He doesn’t shoot enough FTs.
Sorry bronsexual the Lakers + 1094 free throw differential last two years is refs cheating for letrash the WOAT wackest of all time media created hoax
That may be true. But the lakers get calls is also true.
lol
It sucks it's Denver's because altitude is a legitimate thing too lol.
It’s going to take ALOT for the Lakers to beat the Nuggets. If this was 2013 Lebron easy 2024 Lebron I’m not confident.
I don’t think 2013 lebron beats this team with their current roster. If the lakers still had Caruso and a player like Danny green I’d agree but there’s not enough shooting or wing defense to compete
2013 Bron smoking this team @@misinfluence
Two of Bron’s biggest subtle haters
Lol Bill isn't so subtle but Wildes definitely tries to act like he isn't. The fact that Bron winning another chip doesn't do anything for him in the GOAT debate only because MJ has 6 is asinine.
The Lakers wouldn't never get past Denver and Phoenix back to back. Suns cooked the Lakers during the season.
Winning a title always shifts the narrative....but losing meh
Please give us the video for half-baked ideas!!
We NEED the Lakers to somehow get through the Nuggets and play the Celtics in the Finals. Would be peak content
After the play in for the 3rd straight year
LeBron has given you media a lot that you can't get enough from him. That's why everyday you are finding on who to save your next career. Sorry it's gonna take a lot of time
Why do people act like LeBron gets the same amount of free throws like embiid?
All it would take is Murray to pull a Klay Thomson in game one to swing momentum. LBJ is 26-2 in game one playoff series also. The 69 Mets were far more of an underdog in the world series.
Jamal Murray is not washed ass Klay Thompson.
If he wins 5 rings playing 8 more years than MJ, how is that a positive?
I don't think you can swing the goat debate for the MJ believers, until LeBron wins his 8th ring.
So many haters use the 4-6 in the finals argument. They would totally use it against him with the 7 finals losses.
(The reason i say haters is you have to be hating to act like making it to the finals and losing is worse than losing in the first round)
And porter's other brother just got 6 years in prison. Michael testified at sentencing. Could be distracted
Love to see WIldes talk normal about Lebron and isnt stuck in his role like on the show even if it is always funny with him
If Vegas,🧲 🏀 and the Refs get involved watch out if then start making 3s. Think In season tournament💯
Kevin Wildes makes every show he's on better!
Bron and Jokic average the same amount of FT at 6 and neither of those dudes are anywhere near the top of the FTA list
If LeBron loses in the Finals, then it won't matter who he went through prior to the loss because most people don't care about context.
No one cares that he played the greatest team ever in consecutive seasons. No one cares that in '15 he lost the other two all-stars on his team. No one even cares that in 2007 he was playing against a dynastic Spurs team with a roster that almost no one else in history could have gotten to the Finals. The narrative with LeBron has always been _if you're really that good, then you should win regardless of the circumstances._
For a lot of people a dub's a dub, and an L's an L 🤷🏾♂️
MJ never lost in the Finals for ANY reason............. 🙃
@@TheUltimateRage literally didn't say anything about MJ
It’s an amazing thing if he did make the finals but if he lost it would just be another finals loss.
At least we know if they lose against Denver that Denver’s clearly better and the Lakers need more pieces. If he lost again, it’s another team that’s better than him. 7 finals losses is not awesome
Bill trying to make excuses for Brady and the 07 patriots is peak Bill Simmons lol. The giants lost 2 of there last 3 coming in to the playoffs and had to play every single round starting in the wildcard and they didn’t get a bye and an extra week off like the pats, plus the break after the conference championships. Using that excuse that they were just too winded compared to the giants, who had played every week from week 9 on without a break AND played a much more physical style of football on offense, is about as hollow as it gets. They got schooled and not bc they were just too beat, that lost bc they got outplayed. Simple and square
Wildes, don't say Brady beat an "aging Drew Brees"...Brady was aging!
We know who the best 4 players are in this series. It's guys 5-8 who will make the difference.
Aaron Gordon and MPJ are 5 and 6. We know that just as clearly
You got the goat on here today!! Wildes carry’s first things first these days!!🫡
Who?
Literally the whole crew is amazing. He doesn't carry. You probably just hate LeBron/Mahomes and can't stand that Nick is biased in his picks.
It's carries my man. Wildes wouldn't stand for grammar fails
Nuggets in 4 🧹
so if the Lakers win it’ll be because the refs helped them? lol its so funny to me how Bill loves to keep hammering home this free throws narrative even semi diminishing the fact that its because of style of play when thats the reason that theres a FT disparity, no other team has two superstars that do the vast majority of their damage in the paint
He's a Boston knob slobber. What do you expect?
They’ve taken so many more free throws than their opponents that you cannot attribute it to simply AD & LeBron. I say this as a Lakers fan.
The refs favor this team to the point where it is the difference between them making the play-in and not.
@@PharaohsNews oh right im sure you’re a lakers fan lmao
obviously they’re not the only ones that take FT’s on the team but for years they’ve been consistently one of the top teams in the league at rim frequency/shots in the paint and most of the time bottom 15 from 3
They’re top 5 in FTA but not first so you’re right media has to call out the other teams in front then
The free throw discrepancy is insane
Would ever.... ever be a video backing the "he gets calls" BS? I mean, if it's so clear, shouldn't be that hard to actually show what calls he gets, right?
It’s guys in the league who shoot 10-12 fts a game! Lebron literally is half of that AD is half of that they have a team who consistently drives to the rim over jacking 50 threes so they should have more fts because of their style of play
Sorry bronsexual but lakers are last in drives to the basket in the nba that's a fact try again but the rig for letrash the WOAT wackest of all time media created hoax
Lakers aint the only team that dont shoot a lot of threes. The ridiculous difference between the lakers and the rest of the league is still something you can overlook.
@@luke8837 free throw rig for letrash
Rescue Wildes from Fox mane
Bill Simmons got caught tryna meet up with 14 year old girls
The 4 star players are pretty equal, LeBron and AD can at least mostly match Jokic and Murray's production. The problem is Denver's role players are just SO much better than the Lakers it is laughable, and Darvin Ham is so clearly out coached by Malone every single time. The Lakers offense is so predictable and there is no movement at all. If somehow DLO and Reeves are able to outplay Gordon and MPJ, and AD is able to turn into a guy they have to double every game because he is going off, they have a small shot. But that never happens, AD has good games but he is rarely that guy that is so dominating a team that they are trying different things to contain him etc. LeBron will be consistent and good, but unless he is great for 4 games they have no shot. Denver will win the series easily and LeBron will have to really decide if he wants to stay in the West....it is so deep and good, maybe best conference ever, that he has no shot getting back to the Finals. If he moved to an East team that is already decent, he has a way better shot at one last ring.
I hate when these analysts have ths GOAT debate already sewed up, when one of the dudes in contention is still playing. So can Luka or Jokic ever be GOAT? MJ doesnt have it on lock forever.
Jokic is clearly on a GOAT path. He "dominates" (for the ones that actually pay attention to iffy adv stats) in ways Jordan never did.
If he gets 3 in a row... why not? Jordan was called the GOAT after 3 so it can happen
@@edgardoMurniahow can you say in a way Jordan never did like defense doesn't exist. Jordan has the highest PER in NBA history. He legit owns most advanced stats records as we speak..
@@dewanewelch1744 Just watch the stats, they are very similar.
Difference is (if Jokic wins a three peat), he would be leading his teams to titles with these dominating numbers, while Jordan best numbers are in losing seasons.
Jokic has to still win though.. I don't think he will.
If lebron wins the chip this year, he’s the GOAT no question
Who is this dude? For real, is he former coach or talking head?
I was watching this till the “oh the Lakers get more calls”… the team in the NBA with the best fouled margin on the 4th Quarter is… the the Celtics (yes your team bro!!!), the Lakers are 14 th!!!!!!’ the most scandalous late game call over the last decade was the non call vs the Celtics (yeah bro.. your team)…
If you can’t be unbiased at least hide your bodies better cos your take is 100% dismissed by facts and they also show that your teams gets the most. Shut up!!!!
Lakers have gotten carried by the refs the whole season, dont see why its gonna stop in the playoffs. plus, what a "story" its gonna be when the lakers beat the nuggets in 7 after getting swept by them all season
Pretty sure you haven't watch a single game
The posturing and body language coming from Wildes is completely over the top, especially when Dollar Bill is talking. It is insane. Is it real? Is it a satire? You never know with the guy.
These fanciful theories about Lebron doing miraculous thing in the playoffs never materialized after he went West. He got his weird little bubble ring at 35 (same age as Mike in 98), and now it's OVER.
If he losses to Denver this year, this will be his WC experience in six years:
- 2 times missing the playoffs.
- 2 times losing in the first round
- 1 time sweep in the WCF.
- 1 ring in an empty gym in Florida.
Sure looks like Duncan, Kobe or any other all-time great playing in this brutal conference this century. Maybe even a little worse. Oh right, the bad ankle.
Man why are you so angry at another man's achievements? Everything you said is completely true.. However content matters. Whether he won the ring in a bubble or empty gym. Teams competed!! to discount all the work ppl put in to provide us basketball is sad.. You had something to watch when we were all locked 🔒 up at home but want to hate on the winners of that chip. I was very grateful 🙏🏽 to have basketball to watch. I don't know how u were living but b'ball.
@@johnscott2141"Why are you being so mean to my favorite player?" Grow up.
Why aren’t we just assuming the Lakers are going to draft Bronny? That’s the type of thing they do to take care of their superstars.
I love the idea of the Lakers sacrificing their future for LeBron.
Soon we will be rid of LeBron and be rid of the Lakers for a good while.
If the Bucks are willing to sign Giannis' bum brother with no ceiling, Bronny is 100% getting signed with the Lakers. Worst case scenario is Bronny goes to the G league and he sells them more tickets
I don't know about you guys, but eight first minutes of Lebron's opportunity to go to Finals is a complete waiste of time. I love Wildes and the face reaction he had when asked this question tells all. Stop doing fillers, Bill, you are way too rich for these shenanigans.
We are all talking about the Lakers getting to the finals, but if Zion doesn't get hurt they win that game
Or maybe not
this was kinda booring..he needs to invite JJ
What a weird "what if". "Let's say a team beats 4 teams that have proven they are much better than them, what would it mean, heh?".
Well yeah, it would be a surprise! No shit!
4:23
I will always love Simmons, but there's some whack homer anti-Lebron stuff woven in here...
1. If you watch the LAL games, the 'they get help from the refs' narrative just falls apart. It's their defense to funnel and not foul, and they score inside more than other teams = more fouls.
2. Pels schemed to get Zion off Lebron and open in the Play-In. It wasn't like he beat Lebron up (aside from that charge).
1 is correct, 2 is nonsense
Go back and watch the film, he got eaten alive guarding him
And it has been easily Denver lol
If the Lakers make it to the Finals, Scott Foster is getting 3 statues in LA and LeBron better get drug tested 💯
So much glazing jeez
Zion lost in the most Zionish way. He finally turns it up to what he could be and instantly pulls his hammie. Sigh. He just doesn't care enough.
He pulled his hammy what is he supposed to do
@@DaveBradleyComedy He pulled his hammie when he finally tried hard. What if Zion actually worked out like a reasonable pro athlete?
@@David-iv6je Jimmy butler works hard no? He just got hurt too. You can’t control injuries
@@DaveBradleyComedyBro Zion has an established history of not giving a fuck about the game.