@@edtommerdahl974 I think I've seen one of those photo's ; an old B&W of a German sub pen . The photo's that I saw were at the Imperial War Museum in London . Also info that described when the wind was right while out at sea , enough cable was deployed to get altitude of over 200 ft off the water . The pilot could then view with binoculars more than 30 miles away . The goal was to be able to see the top 1/3 to 1/2 of another surface vessel before it came over the horizon . A Destroyer/Battleship or Cargo Vessel would be the the optimum target .
The wind turns the rotor in autorotation. Once it gets to around 320 rpm, it will spin no faster and up you go. It takes about a 22mph wind in my case at my weight. I think the rotor was 21'9" in diameter with a 7" chord. A standard Bensen rotor.
Nice job there Chris. I'm just a novice, but fascinated by this. Home build I'm assuming. Do you have to change the angle of attack to make the blades rotate. Is this how you attain the controlled lift?
@@geepea101able Home built yes. Rotor is fixed in pitch at about 1 1\2 degrees positive pitch. The cyclic allows for tilting the spinning disk but it remains at 1 1\2 positive relative to the rotor hub. The rotor is changing pitch through out its rotation to create the tilt required and in the direction desired by moving the cyclic.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 Thanks for the info. any plans available on line for the frame . Were the blades purchased or did you make them too? Are you going to fit a motor to it?
@@geepea101able You can search "Bensen B8 Glider Plans" and you should find them in several places. I always use factory rotor blades, I would never attempt to make them as this is a skill left up to the "experts". I never fitted a motor on this one but I did sell it to someone that may have those intentions. I had too much fun "kiting" to spoil all that "quiet".
My experience was back in the 60ties with a Benson B-8, 20' kit built rotor. 200' rope towed behind a car in a large field, flew in a large figure 8, staying up as long as we wanted. Had to force it to track on the outside of the curve to maintain speed. Later installed 72hp McCulloch drone engine. Limited success. Needed longer rotor.
The standard rotor hub on the Bensen is 24”. I installed the longer 34” on mine later. It made a world of difference. Some of the old Mac’s didn’t do well in the standard configured engine. I had a Mac setup by Bill Parsons which included a “third” piston ring. That little modification made it much stronger. Each time I flew someone else’s Mac, I always notice a lack of good power/thrust. If you built the rotor, some lift can be lost there if it’s not correct. Cold days help a lot and low density altitude. If you were doing figure 8’s while being towed, I am very impressed. That is an astonishing accomplishment by itself. Great job.!! I started flying Bensens in 1971. You got me beat.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 I had the original short hub with a hole in the center, simple head with a swivel bearing and overhead stick. Dumb kid out of high school, no money, built and flew mine before ever seeing one or talking to anyone else that had one. My Mac was a salvage drone with bullet ripped fins. Pushing 80 yrs old - Gods grace I'm still alive.
@@goodvolts , you described one of the first head designs. Most folks abandoned them and a much better design followed. Rotor on the glider as shown was 21’9” all metal with the short/standard hub, no hole in the newer design. My cousin is 81 now and he still flies his basic Mcculloch powered B8M Bensen. He does not have a prerotator or electric starter so you know he has “the right stuff”. I’m 71 but quit instructing 2019. Lots of fun but you need to be sharper than I felt. Students keep coming up with new ways to hurt you !!!
Очень похвальное видео...удивляют больше всего колья в земле и веревка какие держат гирокоптер...Молодец тот кто сидит в гирокоптере и надо же додуматься до такого...Жму руку крепко за такие чудеса...
Larga mão de ser ignorante girocoptero é a aeronave mais segura do mundo... o rotor é como uma asa de avião e um paraquedas ao mesmo tempo... o vento gira o rotor mesmo estando em queda livre sem motor o rotor continua girando...funciona como um paraquedas então é impossivel alguem morrer em um desses... a não ser que a pessoa resolva saltar la de cima ela morre e o girocoptero pousa sozinho...
That was great. I flew my ski/tow kite like that a few times. Had a proper towing rig on it. Tried it with a hang glider , rope just tied to the middle of the A frame above my head. Worked well. Then made the mistake of tying it to the A frame control bar ( level with my waist), immediate change of angle of attack. Rocketed up to 100 feet, tow rope slipped to one side as it was not properly secured to the middle like my tow kite. Power dive, down into the sand dunes. Kite collapse probably saved my life. Walked away badly bruised. That was 50 years ago & I'd be happy to try static flight with that gyro now.
Wow. Thanks, triggered fond memories of my dads home build. The tether weight was a Skoda Estelle II unfortunately dads first err "Flight" was not as successful because he'd anchored the aircraft at the central point where the fuselage scaffold pole intersects with the vertical rotor pole. This seemed to cause the autogyro to want to orientate its horizontal fuselage to be 90 degrees in a more vertical orientation before lift could be achieved. This doesn't take much triangulation mathematics to work out the formula of the rotors 22 foot diameter spinning at 300 rpm and G-forces of 30 tons at the sail tips and the distance to the ground at the rear of the craft which is transitioning gradually between an increasing angle of horizontal to vertical.. Yeah Dad to the right roughly 10 feet, gyrocopter to the left roughly 8 feet, Bits of rotor blades being so embarrassed they'd dug their own 3 foot deep grave just behind the gyrocopter and proceeded to bury themselves whilst other splinters spread themselves around an impressive radius of the test area and became shrapnel in the farmers field to act as potato fertilizer of the future.. Unfortunately we didn't get video footage but after the bits of splintered wood had come to rest and dad had stood up we naturally fell down laughing to tears.. Later noticing we'd found the Skoda was actually good at something. Even if that something was a dead wait. Lol. I had to double take as you're autogyro looked like an extremely similar design.. Dads mk II actually had the same tethering scaffolding at the front. He never managed another flight due to the rotor blade price. His teeter bar was controlled with a downward control stick arrangement other than that, possibly the same blueprint.. Thanks for sharing as dads now flying higher than he ever did and he always had a project on the go. :)
Wow! This is an AMAZING thing !!! I had no idea that this was even at all possible?...I'm speechless...He really looks like he's having a LOT of fun and is very happy for doing so. Thank you for sharing this with us and now I'm a more happy person for having seen it ! 😀👍
I remember when I was young back in roughly the 60's when you could buy these directly from the Benson company. You could get them with a motor or without a motor like this one. You could also buy them with wheels or with pontoons for use on the water. I think the original Mad Max movies with Mel Gibson had a Benson gyrocopter flying around. It was pretty cool stuff back in those days.
50 years ago it was a round tube Benson B7 with wooden self built rptpr blades, went out of balance/track every time a cloud showed up, my wooden blades delaminated 1.5 feet off the ground, almost bought the whole farm, , went to extruded alum blades and never looked back, i was taught by the granda dame herself and hill higdon of pra chapter 5 in tracy almost 60 years ago, oh i forgot to say marion springer on the club 2 place kite towed behind hill higdons blue and white 66 chevy half ton pickup, many years agoit was 60 years ago 71 when i got back from viet nam
Wow. Fascinating to watch. I took some lessons in/on one of these with a wide seat for an instructor, and a pickup truck to tow us up and down the runway. That was fun. It was technically a kite.
In the early days, a pick up truck and towing was very typical. When power supplies became better stronger and lighter, the two place powered gyroplane became a better way to train. However, nothing beats being able to talk to your instructor without an engine screaming behind you.
I still think we should be using them now. Great way to learn the basics and the more basics you know the less time and dual training you need. We had glider dual then solo (about 1-3 hours), dual powered about 3-5 hours and lots of ground runs in your powered machine which our CFI would test fly and ensure was safe. I operated as a gyro-glider instructor at that and another club for 16 years. At the club I learned at (which had dual training and an excellent CFI) I never saw a set of blades so much as bent in all that training. Yes some guys would argue with the CFI and go off an do their own thing and come back bend gyro asking for help re-building and would then listen. Some would just disappear and do it on their own and we'd hear a couple of months later they smashed it up. But those that stuck with the training (which as a club was limited to once a month so would take at least 6 months usually closer to 12months of monthly training weekends). But it worked. All the pilots who learned that way learned on machines that now are considered death traps no stabilisers, had down thrust but not high cg machines - but flown slowly enough not to be an issue. No one died. We had two guys fly through power lines, one was killed again not in training but years latter. I remember watching my CFI arguing with the guy who killed himself. He was flying low over a river in the area he lived Terry told him "Mate they'll string a power line across it at some point and you'll fly right through it". The guy got angry told him he didn't know what he was talking about and a couple of months latter caught the news and there was his gyro being fished out of the river, he had been decapitated. Anyway the old glider is undervalued. I learned all my blade management, take off and landings, turns (although not balanced), proper attitude. I knew what attitude behind the power curve was I could see the blades when they were hinging (the shape of the disk changes). I could generally get off quicker than guys with pre-rotators as I knew how to wind up with limited ground speed and hence less distance. Gliders should be in every club it should be a + with the powered machines.
Jim, not easy to answer as no two circumstances will be exactly the same. I can say pretty much without doubt, if you have in full power and unload the rotor for a span of time, the engine torque alone will make the gyro roll over opposite the torque and it may go quickly inverted (unrecoverable). A sustained unloaded rotor can quickly become fatal. First thing in most cases is reduce the throttle to idle (quickly, my helicopter instincts work well here), thus taking away the torque. Momentary unloading in wind gust is normally not an issue.
@@mikepaul3200 easy to say but very complicated to accomplish. The whole premise with homebuild experimental is simplicity. Easiest to train out the issue. Fly within the envelop and you don’t have this problem.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 I figured it would be an engineering nightmare. Probably easier to test out on a small scale drone first. But I enjoy tinkering.
Thanks for your basic tech experiment with simple but effective lessons. Thanks for your systematic technological work and the best Contribution to knowledge chain.
Johnny G. Check out “GYROKITE PT2” to see my cousin doing the same thing. He had a better “wind” day than me and even flew over my head once. He was a little lighter than me at the time. That helps too. He added an engine to his in 1992 and is still flying it today. He’s pushing 80 so a remarkable gyro aviator indeed.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 yes that would work. Like the video I didn't get quite enough wind to stay up indefinitely gusts would hit and you get some height then you'd lose a bit and get the disk back and try to hold it. It was challenging and fun though. Must have been a hard way to learn in the early days. Be waiting a long time for enough wind in many places.
Wow, the only other gyro ‘glider’ I’ve seen other then the one I used to fly with the Air Training Corps at Wisley when it was operated by BritishAerospace for BAC 1-11 maintenance. We used to tow it behind an old Vauxhall Consul 👍
Can you tell me more? I volunteer at RAF Snaith Museum, and we are looking to build a similar machine called the RotarChute that was tested here in ww2
@@beardedbodger Sounds like a great project. It was a very long time ago I flew these.(Over 50 years ago) so my memory is limited. We (Air Training Corp 398 Squadron) owned a single seater and a twin seater, both towed behind the car along the runway centreline. I cannot recall if the rudders were operational on our ones, as shown in this vid. This one looks uncannily like the single seater I used to fly though. We bolted a winch into the boot of the Consul and towed it at around 30 MPH along the length of the runway. We did suffer a cable break and minor injuries/damage, so after that we always practiced for such an eventuality but fortunately was never required again. We always carried out a cable inspection so it was never established why it broke. I do know we had no CAA involvement but at the time we were operating legally (or so I was told). The single seater was much lighter and really nice to fly but the twin seater was very heavy on the controls and harder to fly. Good luck with the project.
This looks like such an interesting piloting challenge! I wonder if this could be used for a sort of kite sailing. Instead of a stick in the ground, it's like ... maybe a floating stick with a large keel underneath. So, you can either "hover" while slowly going downwind, or you can go at an angle to the wind for faster sailing. I expect it wouldn't be as fast as kiteboarding, because you're using a lot of the power just to lift yourself up in the air. But I imagine the piloting challenge would be fun regardless of speediness, and the view from higher up could be worth it.
Interesting comments. I've seen what you describe with kite like sails. The gyro is not very efficient and I can't really say going slow downwind is even possible. It takes at least 22 mph headwind to fly. Turning downwind, it would be on the ground before you even got thru maybe 45 degrees of the turn. So if I were to turn downwind, all that lift goes away and down ya go. Descent rate is pretty extreme comparing to a sail/kite. Folks have used 1000+ foot tow ropes. Yes higher is desirable, smoother and faster air usually. Eventually the rope becomes a problem with it's own weight and drag.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 Thanks for your insights! What I mean by slowly going downwind does not involve turning around. I just mean that using a floating "keel" as the anchor means it will slip downwind rather than staying perfectly fixed in place. So you're facing directly into the wind at all times, but you'll move slowly backwards rather than hovering in place. I guess the relatively low efficiency makes a hang glider or paraglider perform better than a gyrokite.
Ken Brock towed his glider to 2200 feet behind an airplane and released to glide down safely. Some on pontoons have been towed behind boats. Bunches of fun when you know how.
@@flappingflight8537- Wind when flying was at least 22mph and increased to occasionally 30mph. Best at 30mph if you can find a constant wind. It was very gusty that day. In Maryland USA, the wind does not normally blow that hard, only during season changes usually. The angle of the keel tells you somewhat how hard the wind is blowing at the time. The higher the keel angle, the slower the wind. The flatter the keel angle, the stronger the wind.
Pretty sure something like this was hovering over my class A RV last night. As a Navy veteran who flew in helicopters for years, I was very confused when this sound appeared over my RV and hovered for 10 secs. In the remote mountains of Idaho after dark! Really weird!
In case some might start with a gyro-glider like this and then be tempted to install a motor - with of course a pusher prop. I once met a man who was negotiating for the Benson agency. Initially he was towed behind a V8 car, but then he installed the motor. Nothing wrong with that if you do it properly - so my caution is against being negligent or taking short-cuts. When I visited him, he was strutting round his gyro flicking imaginary dust specs off his beloved baby - the gyro. It looked pristine - but looks deceive. He was overhead doing a promotion above an airshow when his pusher prop disintegrated. Shards of prop impacted the main rotor and sheared it off. So this guy plummeted 1,000'. They were still finding shards of bone embedded in the grass weeks later.
Kiwi Keith, you are quite right.!! Many could view this as “easy” but they are mistaken. I’ll add an experience I had when my prop shaft broke off right at the nose of the engine. I saw the prop leave the aircraft and “sail” off on its own. It was struck by the rotor as it left and about 6” were “chopped” off both ends of the prop. It was a wooden prop. It caused a slight CG shift but otherwise we were able to glide in with the engine at idle. So some extreme things can happen. Thankfully I was competent and experienced enough to handle this emergency. Flying anything requires a learned level of skill and knowledge. Flying a gyro as a toy, can lead quickly to a fatal accident.
You edited out the part I wanted to see most: the rotor building all that velocity! My brain can’t wrap itself around how that acceleration is possible, I wanted to see it for my own eyes. Also, wouldn’t a bicycle pedal mechanism allow you to just sit down and pedal to get the rotor spinning? Could maybe help you keep it rotating in an emergency too?
Actually my friend just didn't film the whole spin-up but it's all the wind after about 40 rotor rpm. You can see it accelerate each time it lands and then becomes airborne again. I have seen a hand "crank" mechanism used once but it works only for the first 40 ish rotor rpm. After that it's all up to the wind. No need to connect a pedal system to the rotor to keep the rotor spinning, like I mentioned, it's all up to the wind to do that. It's called autorotation. Same way a helicopter glides safely down to a landing when or if the engine quits. They trade off their altitude for the up-flow of wind to keep the rotor spinning.
Thanks. My cousin captured the video, he also had kited his gyro glider. It’s actually old tech but lots of fun if you know how to handle the rotor. That’s the hard part.
It’s pretty good for handing the rotor but it does require understanding and knowing how to get it safely spun up. It’s not easy with the wind always blowing, same goes for stopping it. Transition to engine power is not exactly easy either. Nothing can replace taking dual instruction for that. It’s a whole new “beast” once you strap on that motor. You should never go at it alone.
some one did when they first learned how to fly. I think you shouldn't let anyone stop you from doing anything ! We could definately do with a few less know it all's !
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I know this has been awhile but I had a dream I was doing this seemed so real..amost out of body experience scary as heck but loving every second of it.🤪
It is GOOD for rotor management training but not easy to learn without help from someone that knows how to get the rotor spun-up under windy conditions. It is not easy to do and you need to understand how it is done and done safely. Trying this alone without experienced help can be dangerous.
I recently developed a strong interest in Gyroplanes. I have successfully designed and build a twin rotor rc Gyroplane and I am currently building a mono rotor Gyroplane that I designed too…still rc.
Well it takes a "different" kind of pilot to fly r/c. I never did well in that task. Guess I'm a seat of the pants' sort. I cant fly well without all the senses at work.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 I know a lot of them hasn't experienced that great feeling been towed by vehicle staked out like a kite they just have not experienced it and Banning California Cabazon California
Joe Mason, be certain, this is not easy. The hard part is knowing how to get the rotor up to speed safely in strong winds. You also need some understand of what it can and can not do. A cable break could be very unforgiving and might/could end very badly. This should not be attempted unless you have “some” training.
In the early 90s I survived parasailing in no name storm in Orlando near the airport . I used to parasail behind my car. We would find a long Open Road or path. We realized between 15 and 20 miles an hour is all we needed. One day after a long spell of not enough wind as we prefer to tie it off to a stationary object such as a parked truck or tree, we suddenly got several days of significant wind. I called my friend and we went off of Semoran Boulevard in Orlando near the airport. It was nighttime. We first tied the Rope off to my Volkswagen Microbus rear bumper. I let out about 100 ft of rope and was able to fly and still get back down. Next I let out all 600 feet. Was not a good idea. I flew around 400 ft in the night sky pulling severe G's getting tossed around like a leaf. It was so windy at that level I could not stick my arm straight out. So it was blowing above 80. It picked the back end of my Volkswagen Microbus in the air and was dragging it very fast to the east in a huge grassy field. My friend was on the ground thinking I was having a good time when I was utterly terrified. It seemed like I was up there forever. I thought I was going to die and was convinced. The peace of God came over me and then I was all right with dying strangely. Something told me to pull one of the steering toggles and I did slowly and consistently until the parasail angled off the horizon to the side and lost enough lift to land. Once I got to the ground I pulled the parasail lines inside out so it would not re-inflate. My truck transmission was destroyed as it lifted it and kept setting it down hard in reverse and there was grass stuffed up underneath the front bumper. Since then I always thought hey gyrocopter kite would be much safer in Gusty wind. I've often thought of making a dedicated version. Any comments?
Wow guy, that would have given me a heart attack. Great story. The strong winds are almost never "friendly". That's why most of the parasail guys/gals can be seen on calm early mornings or calm late evenings, when the winds are light. Not sure I would ever "kite" a parasail. You had a once in a lifetime experience with some "luck" thrown in. A gyroplane is much different in that it can handle some pretty tough wind conditions. When airplanes are getting all buffeted around, a gyroplane will be more stable. If I had rough conditions to fly in (and I have had them) give me the gyro or a helicopter any day.
You need either the wind or you need to be towed by car, boat, or anything that will produce about 22mph of wind or greater. Kiting in the wind is the most fun for me. Only you and the wind.
Well I did. I think it was 1977 in an "Easy Riser" I built in my basement. Long story but I eventually broke a bone in my right landing gear (foot). That ended my hang glider days.
@Rod Loucks Yes, the price has gone up on most modern gyro's. You can still build one more "stick" like but there are very few being sold that way. I suspect at least $15K would be needed today. Some designs are not stable like most modern machines. I met the guy that flew "Little Nellie" in the movie "You Only Live Twice", Commander Ken Wallis. He had a remarkable history in aviation. Ken has passed but not from gyros. He was still flying them at age 90.!!!
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 The Nano Fusion Copter is beautiful and built much more modern than a stick and ready to go for around $20,000. Unfortunately it is a single seater.
@@nameberry220, I will admit the Nano Fusion caught my eye. I will point out some concerns that I have. It is not for a heavy pilot since power is on the low side. I believe someone familiar with a gyro will do fine but think it is not for the "new" guy. I have some concerns with rudder authority with the rather large body. I am sure it should always be flown in "trim", coordinated flight. Most cabin gyros want to be flown in "trim" because the cabin can cause slip/yaw and get away from you. If I wanted to get back in today, I think I would strongly consider that gyro. All of the above are just my observations and not from personally flying the Nano.
Carmelo Rodriguez, it basically is. Minor changes with the horizontal location but most everything else is the B8 gyroplane airframe and rotor. Gyrocopter was the trade name the Bensen factory used. The official “class” is Gyroplane. Gyrocopter has such a following that even the Air Traffic Controllers tend to use it.
I agree. The wind can provide "lots" of power. This is exactly what wind turbines are all about. It is a Bensen B8 glider (not Benson) spell checker does that.
You might feel better about “GYROKITE PT2” which shows my cousin flying over my head. You can hear us talking. If there was any powered fan in front, you would only hear engine noise.
Awesome stuff , loved watching this , looks like heaps of fun , great learning tool I believe as well . No runway for take off or fuel expenses lol , enjoyed this video heaps .👍
David S, it does take some waiting for the necessary winds, something 22mph or more, and steady is always nice. In Maryland, this only happened a couple days a season.
First time I flew a gyro kite was in a Bensen Gyroglider - I was 14 years old. We towed it behind the family station wagon. Later at the El Mirage dry lake in CA, I would hover my gyrocopter when the wind was blowing hard. Good times.
Have to say the glider brought a lot of joy to me. No engine noise. No engine to fail. No systems to monitor. No air traffic to avoid. Fewer moving parts. Just the wind in my face and beautiful clouds sweeping by sometimes. I could almost take a nap.!!! I am very happy just hearing the rotor do its thing. But I have to say my Huey days were also that way.
I concur with John H, but the U boats had forward speed when towing the Focke-Achgelis Fa 330 Bachstelze, for this gyrocopter to take off a rotor speed of approaching 200rpm would have to be achieved and in order for that to happen you are looking at a wind speed of 20 - 25kts minimum.
Yes, but consider the wind is almost never calm. If you can do 10kts lets say and have a 15kt headwind, problem somewhat solved. An aircraft carrier will "turn into the wind" for that advantage when launching fighters. Also note that the Focke-Achgelis Fa 330 Bachstelze had a three blade rotor and the rotor loading was much lighter enabling it to fly with slower speeds. The higher you climb, the wind speed normal increases. Believe me there are other agencies still looking at towed aerial platforms at sea.
Tail rotor is not required because the main rotor is not driven, it free wheels in autorotation. You could actually lock the rudder completely in the kite configuration.
Great video Chris. Couple of questions. How long was your tether? Is there a limit to how long you could go? I.e. 100 ft? What happens if the tether broke? You're having too much fun there!!!! Thank you for the video.
My cable was about 50 feet. I would say no limit to how long it could be but at some point, the cable becomes "weight" that could prevent flight. I have seen video of folks on about 1000 feet, but they were being towed into flight behind a car. That gives them many more options for good smooth and controllable wind conditions. I would not venture too high under the unpredictable conditions I was in. If the wind suddenly dies, you need to be close to the ground or you could be "smacked" into it. If the cable breaks, it would begin to move quickly backward over the ground. Another good reason not to venture too high. I can't say for sure that it would all work out "well". In that case, the rudder would become a "necessary" working control surface.
Angle of attack.. Have you thought of attaching the cable further down the frame (like the front wheel area) you would have more stability (draw a line from the rotor hub to the cable anchor point) then the absolute front frame, act more like a kite. It seems the cable pull is trying to pitch the nose down.
suny bock , believe me the only thing keeping me from climbing higher are the unpredictable minimal winds and the length on my cable. I have seen video of folks being towed by car on a 1000 foot rope and there is no problem with the cable attaching point. It is located where you see it for several reasons. Stability, easy release (standard glider tow aircraft hook), and if you notice, there is a cable from the attachment point running up to the the control head. This is done to transfer the load of the cable pull from the tow “boom” directly up to the head where all the load is located. UP is not a problem.!!!
Well it has, with an engine. Most folks do not have the steady winds to do this everyday or each time you want to fly. This type of kiting does not require another person, just steady winds.
There was a time I thought someone was making the kits in Canada. However if they are, seems they are keeping it a secret.!!! I have no contact info on that. I think getting sued keeps many from pursuing that venture. The "old" folks flew them but today's modern gyro "folks" think only the expensive enclosed gyro are safe.
Longer rope naturally. Ken Brock towed to 2000+ feet behind a fixed-wing and released. Too much cable and it becomes weight. The attachment point is pretty critical because the load is transferred from the control head to the tow "hitch". All these things were worked out by the manufacturer. Longer rope is about the only choice. I had about 50 feet of cable and never tried anything longer.
Actually I am a retired army helicopter pilot. I feel it teaches rotor management most of all. Mainly because you can hear the rotor speed up and slow down with the wind speed changes and how it reacts to it. The simplicity of no engine or systems to monitor allows you to focus all senses on the rotor’s condition as it change’s rpm.
These questions are something else, When you consider just how stupid the average person is, Then realise half of them are even more stupid. Anyway, Cool engineering guy 👍 Ps you're a champion for entertaining those questions btw, you clearly have passion for the profession. Admirable.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. I do enjoy talking gyro. Rotorcraft have made my world so much more fun. I've met some very interesting people. If you haven't flown in helicopters or gyros, you don't know what you're missing.
At least you are honest (I guess). Anyway, a cable break would make things pretty "dicey" very quick. I can't say the outcome would be good. It would require a very quick descent from how high you were from the ground. I was usually less than about 25ft but I couldn't guarantee a smooth landing in that scenario . I suspect you would drift backward until such time you recognize and react to the loss of lift. However the glider (not this one) was towed behind an airplane to 2000 feet and released. It pretty much glided into a landing so it is possible if you have enough time to react.
I was a very active GYRO-CFI at that time. No club other than the national PRA (Popular Rotorcraft Association). I always wanted to do a video on "excessive blade flap" using the glider. It was very dramatic and easy to see what is happening and the approaching "signs". I just never got with a cameraman at the right time to do it. I would only have demonstrated this on camera in the glider as you could talk easily, hear and see the rotor climb up out of the correct tip path plane. Never would have demonstrated this so close to an actual flap in a powered machine. Time just got away.
I've always thought it could generate some electricity but lots of issues involved like.. rotor will not start itself, it needs to be started by some means, hand or motor. It requires no less that about 6 mph wind to keep it spinning and at that rpm, it would not create much if any horsepower. But with about 20 mph wind and more, this configuration will lift around 400 pounds easily. I'm sure someone "smarter" than me can put all that down on paper and calculate all the numbers needed, that's just not my area of expertise. It still needs some elevation "above" the ground and the higher the smoother and stronger the air stream. I'm sure the wind turbine folks have worked out the numbers and have the design down pretty pat. Yes, their "towers" are impressive, expensive and their rotors are huge.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 I've seen articles on kite like turbine/generator. but never a gyrocoper turbine/generator. Conveniently, the power cable's might also serve as a tether. Furthermore, for getting it started spinning and getting it high up into into faster moving air, it is serendipitously convent that an alternator or generator for making electricity can be made to motor to get it spinning. They are in fact largely the same machine. A generating gyrocopter need only be optimized for lifting itself and a sufficiently sized motor generator. Do you think a ballast would help with flight stability? I'm thinking the one downside is that while wind turbines are designed to get maximal cross section of wind, a gyrocopter needs to adjust its angel to the incoming wind so as to generate lift. To be practical flying would need to be automated. I'm guessing a cheap raspberry pi computer the size of a credit card with sensors attached to its general purpose input output pins running on 10-15 watts or so would have more than sufficent processing, and its on-board wifi would enable convent monitoring and remote control.
If the rope broke you can tilt the rotor forward and actually accelerate and remain flying if you have enough altitude. Ken Brock released from 2000 feet being towed to altitude behind and airplane. Naturally it is controllable in a descent as long as you have some speed just before touchdown. You convert that speed to cushion your landing. From 30 feet it would be a big challenge to tilt the rotor enough forward to not drift backwards before slamming into the ground hard. I think you may not really have much to flare with for a soft touchdown. If you did nothing, what you said above would be the likely result. I used a steel cable and two stakes in the ground to not really worry about that.
Hi Chris: A little more of a technical question. Do you have any negative pitch induced into the blades at the rotor head block? If so how much angle? Lastly would a little negative pitch help lift off in lighter winds and quicker spool up of the rotor? Any knowledge you can share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the video... watched it hundreds of times.
Look at the control stick and think of the rotor spindle as following the stick as it is tilted. Lets say the rotor spindle is vertical and the stick is also (actual degrees are different because the mast is aft 9 degrees relative to the keel). Just some more confusion, the rotor is "fixed" in pitch to about 1.5 degrees positive and bolted solidly into the hub. System is referred to as "semi-ridgid". The rotor also "teeters" within about a 10 degree window. It does this to allow for dissimilar of lift, created when the rotor turns around it's spindle. The right side is more positive creating more lift and the left side is less positive creating less lift. Best to demo this action at the gyro. As you move the stick that action is translated to the rotor via two control rods. The control "head" is essentially a universal joint that allows the rotor spindle to follow movements of the stick (cyclic). The cyclic changes the rotor pitch cyclically as the rotor turns. There is no collective. Less fixed pitch would allow the rotor to spin up quicker but the overall result is less efficient. 1.5 degrees positive seems to work best but you can go a little more positive but not much. Less pitch slightly easier spin up but not good lift. Sorry if this isn't understandable. Computer "jumbled" it and dropped some also.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 Thank you Chris for the quick and honest reply. Yes it does make sense and I do follow your explanation. I have a 1960"s Bensen Gyro with out motor. I have let it spool up in light winds and that is the extent I am prepared to go before I take proper Gyro lessons. I asked my question out of pure knowledge gaining :) You know how thoughts bounce around in your head... So I thought I would ask. Thanks for taking the time to teach and help... your answer is greatly appreciated.
This same flying device was on board some of the German U-Boats during WW11 to help them view great distances while out at sea .
Yes. An idea that may have been before it's time. It is still an idea being tossed around today.
Hey John, I believe our navy pulled these with submarines with cables up hight over the German port's to take pictures of their fleets
@@edtommerdahl974 I think I've seen one of those photo's ; an old B&W of a German sub pen . The photo's that I saw were at the Imperial War Museum in London . Also info that described when the wind was right while out at sea , enough cable was deployed to get altitude of over 200 ft off the water . The pilot could then view with binoculars more than 30 miles away . The goal was to be able to see the top 1/3 to 1/2 of another surface vessel before it came over the horizon . A Destroyer/Battleship or Cargo Vessel would be the the optimum target .
Good boy
@@johnh1001 Anton Flettner design ?
The wind turns the rotor in autorotation. Once it gets to around 320 rpm, it will spin no faster and up you go. It takes about a 22mph wind in my case at my weight. I think the rotor was 21'9" in diameter with a 7" chord. A standard Bensen rotor.
Nice job there Chris. I'm just a novice, but fascinated by this. Home build I'm assuming. Do you have to change the angle of attack to make the blades rotate. Is this how you attain the controlled lift?
@@geepea101able Home built yes. Rotor is fixed in pitch at about 1 1\2 degrees positive pitch. The cyclic allows for tilting the spinning disk but it remains at 1 1\2 positive relative to the rotor hub. The rotor is changing pitch through out its rotation to create the tilt required and in the direction desired by moving the cyclic.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 Thanks for the info. any plans available on line for the frame . Were the blades purchased or did you make them too? Are you going to fit a motor to it?
@@geepea101able You can search "Bensen B8 Glider Plans" and you should find them in several places. I always use factory rotor blades, I would never attempt to make them as this is a skill left up to the "experts". I never fitted a motor on this one but I did sell it to someone that may have those intentions. I had too much fun "kiting" to spoil all that "quiet".
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 Thanks Chris. I'll check it out. Much appreciated.
My experience was back in the 60ties with a Benson B-8, 20' kit built rotor. 200' rope towed behind a car in a large field, flew in a large figure 8, staying up as long as we wanted. Had to force it to track on the outside of the curve to maintain speed. Later installed 72hp McCulloch drone engine. Limited success. Needed longer rotor.
The standard rotor hub on the Bensen is 24”. I installed the longer 34” on mine later. It made a world of difference. Some of the old Mac’s didn’t do well in the standard configured engine. I had a Mac setup by Bill Parsons which included a “third” piston ring. That little modification made it much stronger. Each time I flew someone else’s Mac, I always notice a lack of good power/thrust. If you built the rotor, some lift can be lost there if it’s not correct. Cold days help a lot and low density altitude. If you were doing figure 8’s while being towed, I am very impressed. That is an astonishing accomplishment by itself. Great job.!! I started flying Bensens in 1971. You got me beat.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 I had the original short hub with a hole in the center, simple head with a swivel bearing and overhead stick. Dumb kid out of high school, no money, built and flew mine before ever seeing one or talking to anyone else that had one. My Mac was a salvage drone with bullet ripped fins. Pushing 80 yrs old - Gods grace I'm still alive.
@@goodvolts , you described one of the first head designs. Most folks abandoned them and a much better design followed. Rotor on the glider as shown was 21’9” all metal with the short/standard hub, no hole in the newer design. My cousin is 81 now and he still flies his basic Mcculloch powered B8M Bensen. He does not have a prerotator or electric starter so you know he has “the right stuff”. I’m 71 but quit instructing 2019. Lots of fun but you need to be sharper than I felt. Students keep coming up with new ways to hurt you !!!
Очень похвальное видео...удивляют больше всего колья в земле и веревка какие держат гирокоптер...Молодец тот кто сидит в гирокоптере и надо же додуматься до такого...Жму руку крепко за такие чудеса...
Larga mão de ser ignorante girocoptero é a aeronave mais segura do mundo... o rotor é como uma asa de avião e um paraquedas ao mesmo tempo... o vento gira o rotor mesmo estando em queda livre sem motor o rotor continua girando...funciona como um paraquedas então é impossivel alguem morrer em um desses... a não ser que a pessoa resolva saltar la de cima ela morre e o girocoptero pousa sozinho...
That was great. I flew my ski/tow kite like that a few times. Had a proper towing rig on it. Tried it with a hang glider , rope just tied to the middle of the A frame above my head. Worked well. Then made the mistake of tying it to the A frame control bar ( level with my waist), immediate change of angle of attack. Rocketed up to 100 feet, tow rope slipped to one side as it was not properly secured to the middle like my tow kite. Power dive, down into the sand dunes. Kite collapse probably saved my life. Walked away badly bruised. That was 50 years ago & I'd be happy to try static flight with that gyro now.
Yep, you just can't move that tow line around without some BIG consequences. Sounds like you found that out the hard way.
Fascinating, never knew this was possible
Wow. Thanks, triggered fond memories of my dads home build.
The tether weight was a Skoda Estelle II unfortunately dads first err "Flight" was not as successful because he'd anchored the aircraft at the central point where the fuselage scaffold pole intersects with the vertical rotor pole.
This seemed to cause the autogyro to want to orientate its horizontal fuselage to be 90 degrees in a more vertical orientation before lift could be achieved.
This doesn't take much triangulation mathematics to work out the formula of the rotors 22 foot diameter spinning at 300 rpm and G-forces of 30 tons at the sail tips and the distance to the ground at the rear of the craft which is transitioning gradually between an increasing angle of horizontal to vertical..
Yeah Dad to the right roughly 10 feet, gyrocopter to the left roughly 8 feet, Bits of rotor blades being so embarrassed they'd dug their own 3 foot deep grave just behind the gyrocopter and proceeded to bury themselves whilst other splinters spread themselves around an impressive radius of the test area and became shrapnel in the farmers field to act as potato fertilizer of the future..
Unfortunately we didn't get video footage but after the bits of splintered wood had come to rest and dad had stood up we naturally fell down laughing to tears..
Later noticing we'd found the Skoda was actually good at something.
Even if that something was a dead wait. Lol.
I had to double take as you're autogyro looked like an extremely similar design..
Dads mk II actually had the same tethering scaffolding at the front.
He never managed another flight due to the rotor blade price.
His teeter bar was controlled with a downward control stick arrangement other than that, possibly the same blueprint..
Thanks for sharing as dads now flying higher than he ever did and he always had a project on the go.
:)
Amazing ... finally youtube recommendation came thru ... searching for this kind of video for 10 years ... no kidding
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Best way to gain some pilot experience without any expenses
Yes, but you still need to know what you’re doing. This can’t be done safely without instruction or experience.
Yes absolutely.. The operating cost is nill and basic training can be imparted post simulator training
Wow! This is an AMAZING thing !!! I had no idea that this was even at all possible?...I'm speechless...He really looks like he's having a LOT of fun and is very happy for doing so. Thank you for sharing this with us and now I'm a more happy person for having seen it ! 😀👍
If you like you can build one,and try on windy places!
@@Bpositive5464здравствуйте а какова длина несущего винта и можно пожалуйста в метрах спасибо
I remember when I was young back in roughly the 60's when you could buy these directly from the Benson company. You could get them with a motor or without a motor like this one. You could also buy them with wheels or with pontoons for use on the water. I think the original Mad Max movies with Mel Gibson had a Benson gyrocopter flying around. It was pretty cool stuff back in those days.
I saw that in the back of a mag over 50yrs ago , nice to see one fly, yes i ordered the plans
50 years ago it was a round tube Benson B7 with wooden self built rptpr blades, went out of balance/track every time a cloud showed up, my wooden blades delaminated 1.5 feet off the ground, almost bought the whole farm, , went to extruded alum blades and never looked back, i was taught by the granda dame herself and hill higdon of pra chapter 5 in tracy almost 60 years ago, oh i forgot to say marion springer on the club 2 place kite towed behind hill higdons blue and white 66 chevy half ton pickup, many years agoit was 60 years ago 71 when i got back from viet nam
@@marionwilliams7907 wow but you flew
Wow. Fascinating to watch.
I took some lessons in/on one of these with a wide seat for an instructor, and a pickup truck to tow us up and down the runway. That was fun.
It was technically a kite.
In the early days, a pick up truck and towing was very typical. When power supplies became better stronger and lighter, the two place powered gyroplane became a better way to train. However, nothing beats being able to talk to your instructor without an engine screaming behind you.
I still think we should be using them now. Great way to learn the basics and the more basics you know the less time and dual training you need. We had glider dual then solo (about 1-3 hours), dual powered about 3-5 hours and lots of ground runs in your powered machine which our CFI would test fly and ensure was safe. I operated as a gyro-glider instructor at that and another club for 16 years. At the club I learned at (which had dual training and an excellent CFI) I never saw a set of blades so much as bent in all that training. Yes some guys would argue with the CFI and go off an do their own thing and come back bend gyro asking for help re-building and would then listen. Some would just disappear and do it on their own and we'd hear a couple of months later they smashed it up. But those that stuck with the training (which as a club was limited to once a month so would take at least 6 months usually closer to 12months of monthly training weekends). But it worked. All the pilots who learned that way learned on machines that now are considered death traps no stabilisers, had down thrust but not high cg machines - but flown slowly enough not to be an issue. No one died. We had two guys fly through power lines, one was killed again not in training but years latter.
I remember watching my CFI arguing with the guy who killed himself. He was flying low over a river in the area he lived Terry told him "Mate they'll string a power line across it at some point and you'll fly right through it". The guy got angry told him he didn't know what he was talking about and a couple of months latter caught the news and there was his gyro being fished out of the river, he had been decapitated.
Anyway the old glider is undervalued. I learned all my blade management, take off and landings, turns (although not balanced), proper attitude. I knew what attitude behind the power curve was I could see the blades when they were hinging (the shape of the disk changes). I could generally get off quicker than guys with pre-rotators as I knew how to wind up with limited ground speed and hence less distance. Gliders should be in every club it should be a + with the powered machines.
Jim, not easy to answer as no two circumstances will be exactly the same. I can say pretty much without doubt, if you have in full power and unload the rotor for a span of time, the engine torque alone will make the gyro roll over opposite the torque and it may go quickly inverted (unrecoverable). A sustained unloaded rotor can quickly become fatal. First thing in most cases is reduce the throttle to idle (quickly, my helicopter instincts work well here), thus taking away the torque. Momentary unloading in wind gust is normally not an issue.
Wouldnt throwing on a counter rotating blade fix that?
@@mikepaul3200 easy to say but very complicated to accomplish. The whole premise with homebuild experimental is simplicity. Easiest to train out the issue. Fly within the envelop and you don’t have this problem.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 I figured it would be an engineering nightmare. Probably easier to test out on a small scale drone first. But I enjoy tinkering.
Thanks for your basic tech experiment with simple but effective lessons. Thanks for your systematic technological work and the best Contribution to knowledge chain.
Awesome, can't wait to get my gyro out and try it.
I injoyed watching your video. That's a cool idea to get the hang of it. I never seen it done that way.
Johnny G. Check out “GYROKITE PT2” to see my cousin doing the same thing. He had a better “wind” day than me and even flew over my head once. He was a little lighter than me at the time. That helps too. He added an engine to his in 1992 and is still flying it today. He’s pushing 80 so a remarkable gyro aviator indeed.
Fun times I've only done this once when it was windy enough. It's amazing how much the rope stretches.
That's why I used steel cable. I tried rope once but the stretch between wind gust made it harder to stay airborne.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 yes that would work. Like the video I didn't get quite enough wind to stay up indefinitely gusts would hit and you get some height then you'd lose a bit and get the disk back and try to hold it. It was challenging and fun though. Must have been a hard way to learn in the early days. Be waiting a long time for enough wind in many places.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 do you opperate with a club? Do training?
Sorry just saw the cfi obviously you train. Good on you for incorporating the glider underutilized IMO.
I thought it was just a joke.
Wow, the only other gyro ‘glider’ I’ve seen other then the one I used to fly with the Air Training Corps at Wisley when it was operated by BritishAerospace for BAC 1-11 maintenance. We used to tow it behind an old Vauxhall Consul 👍
Can you tell me more? I volunteer at RAF Snaith
Museum, and we are looking to build a similar machine called the RotarChute that was tested here in ww2
@@beardedbodger Sounds like a great project. It was a very long time ago I flew these.(Over 50 years ago) so my memory is limited. We (Air Training Corp 398 Squadron) owned a single seater and a twin seater, both towed behind the car along the runway centreline. I cannot recall if the rudders were operational on our ones, as shown in this vid. This one looks uncannily like the single seater I used to fly though. We bolted a winch into the boot of the Consul and towed it at around 30 MPH along the length of the runway. We did suffer a cable break and minor injuries/damage, so after that we always practiced for such an eventuality but fortunately was never required again. We always carried out a cable inspection so it was never established why it broke. I do know we had no CAA involvement but at the time we were operating legally (or so I was told).
The single seater was much lighter and really nice to fly but the twin seater was very heavy on the controls and harder to fly. Good luck with the project.
This looks like such an interesting piloting challenge!
I wonder if this could be used for a sort of kite sailing. Instead of a stick in the ground, it's like ... maybe a floating stick with a large keel underneath. So, you can either "hover" while slowly going downwind, or you can go at an angle to the wind for faster sailing. I expect it wouldn't be as fast as kiteboarding, because you're using a lot of the power just to lift yourself up in the air. But I imagine the piloting challenge would be fun regardless of speediness, and the view from higher up could be worth it.
Interesting comments. I've seen what you describe with kite like sails. The gyro is not very efficient and I can't really say going slow downwind is even possible. It takes at least 22 mph headwind to fly. Turning downwind, it would be on the ground before you even got thru maybe 45 degrees of the turn. So if I were to turn downwind, all that lift goes away and down ya go. Descent rate is pretty extreme comparing to a sail/kite. Folks have used 1000+ foot tow ropes. Yes higher is desirable, smoother and faster air usually. Eventually the rope becomes a problem with it's own weight and drag.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 Thanks for your insights!
What I mean by slowly going downwind does not involve turning around. I just mean that using a floating "keel" as the anchor means it will slip downwind rather than staying perfectly fixed in place. So you're facing directly into the wind at all times, but you'll move slowly backwards rather than hovering in place.
I guess the relatively low efficiency makes a hang glider or paraglider perform better than a gyrokite.
I’ve never thought about that, relative air speed and stuff
Clubs used to tow them behind cars .
Propably on the desert and Salt flats .
Ken Brock towed his glider to 2200 feet behind an airplane and released to glide down safely. Some on pontoons have been towed behind boats. Bunches of fun when you know how.
wow such nice head speed without any engine or motor.
Rotor is turning around 310 to 330 rpm.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 interesting what was approximately the wind speed ? The wind doesn’t looks very strong.
@@flappingflight8537- Wind when flying was at least 22mph and increased to occasionally 30mph. Best at 30mph if you can find a constant wind. It was very gusty that day. In Maryland USA, the wind does not normally blow that hard, only during season changes usually. The angle of the keel tells you somewhat how hard the wind is blowing at the time. The higher the keel angle, the slower the wind. The flatter the keel angle, the stronger the wind.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 thanks !
Pretty sure something like this was hovering over my class A RV last night. As a Navy veteran who flew in helicopters for years, I was very confused when this sound appeared over my RV and hovered for 10 secs. In the remote mountains of Idaho after dark! Really weird!
Just don't get tired!
KC MO, the fresh air and breeze, clear blue skies, crisp winter temps, who could get tired?
H. I. G. E. Looks like a bunch of FUN!! WATCHED and subbed.
In case some might start with a gyro-glider like this and then be tempted to install a motor - with of course a pusher prop. I once met a man who was negotiating for the Benson agency. Initially he was towed behind a V8 car, but then he installed the motor. Nothing wrong with that if you do it properly - so my caution is against being negligent or taking short-cuts. When I visited him, he was strutting round his gyro flicking imaginary dust specs off his beloved baby - the gyro. It looked pristine - but looks deceive. He was overhead doing a promotion above an airshow when his pusher prop disintegrated. Shards of prop impacted the main rotor and sheared it off. So this guy plummeted 1,000'. They were still finding shards of bone embedded in the grass weeks later.
Kiwi Keith, you are quite right.!! Many could view this as “easy” but they are mistaken. I’ll add an experience I had when my prop shaft broke off right at the nose of the engine. I saw the prop leave the aircraft and “sail” off on its own. It was struck by the rotor as it left and about 6” were “chopped” off both ends of the prop. It was a wooden prop. It caused a slight CG shift but otherwise we were able to glide in with the engine at idle. So some extreme things can happen. Thankfully I was competent and experienced enough to handle this emergency. Flying anything requires a learned level of skill and knowledge. Flying a gyro as a toy, can lead quickly to a fatal accident.
You edited out the part I wanted to see most: the rotor building all that velocity! My brain can’t wrap itself around how that acceleration is possible, I wanted to see it for my own eyes. Also, wouldn’t a bicycle pedal mechanism allow you to just sit down and pedal to get the rotor spinning? Could maybe help you keep it rotating in an emergency too?
Actually my friend just didn't film the whole spin-up but it's all the wind after about 40 rotor rpm. You can see it accelerate each time it lands and then becomes airborne again. I have seen a hand "crank" mechanism used once but it works only for the first 40 ish rotor rpm. After that it's all up to the wind. No need to connect a pedal system to the rotor to keep the rotor spinning, like I mentioned, it's all up to the wind to do that. It's called autorotation. Same way a helicopter glides safely down to a landing when or if the engine quits. They trade off their altitude for the up-flow of wind to keep the rotor spinning.
My mind doesn’t understand this magic ! Just an incredible video! Well done
Thanks. My cousin captured the video, he also had kited his gyro glider. It’s actually old tech but lots of fun if you know how to handle the rotor. That’s the hard part.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 great science video! Ty
This is awesome!
It’s pretty good for handing the rotor but it does require understanding and knowing how to get it safely spun up. It’s not easy with the wind always blowing, same goes for stopping it. Transition to engine power is not exactly easy either. Nothing can replace taking dual instruction for that. It’s a whole new “beast” once you strap on that motor. You should never go at it alone.
some one did when they first learned how to fly. I think you shouldn't let anyone stop you from doing anything ! We could definately do with a few less know it all's !
@@stevelamperta865 I like what Ken Brock always said, "don't tell me, show me"!!! I do miss my glider.
A few weeks ago I flew with a gyroglider. The rotor speed was generated by a Puch Maxi moped engine. uch faster and easier than hand propping...
Thanks "E". Believe me, it was fun for me no doubt.
How can I get a propeller
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Wow, that's really cool!
John, Fun once you know how for sure.
Super
I know this has been awhile but I had a dream I was doing this seemed so real..amost out of body experience scary as heck but loving every second of it.🤪
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It is GOOD for rotor management training but not easy to learn without help from someone that knows how to get the rotor spun-up under windy conditions. It is not easy to do and you need to understand how it is done and done safely. Trying this alone without experienced help can be dangerous.
I recently developed a strong interest in Gyroplanes. I have successfully designed and build a twin rotor rc Gyroplane and I am currently building a mono rotor Gyroplane that I designed too…still rc.
Well it takes a "different" kind of pilot to fly r/c. I never did well in that task. Guess I'm a seat of the pants' sort. I cant fly well without all the senses at work.
Nice “pounding” those steel stakes in, you hit it every time!
I was younger and filled with drive then, a bit older and worn out now but the drive to fly gyros never fades.
Hartstikke leuk en goed geslaagd experiment. De video is echter wel wat lang en eentonig voor een snel verveelde RUclips kijker.
Fine. Just browse through to the good parts. I personally have a very short attention span. Thanks for looking.
For me that's how I learned back in the 80s in California great fun let me tell you
bobby Walker, I’ll say most of “today’s” gyro pilots have never experienced this great feeling.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 I know a lot of them hasn't experienced that great feeling been towed by vehicle staked out like a kite they just have not experienced it and Banning California Cabazon California
Hell I was waiting for them to turn it loose
It's a good way to get a feel for a gyro
Joe Mason, be certain, this is not easy. The hard part is knowing how to get the rotor up to speed safely in strong winds. You also need some understand of what it can and can not do. A cable break could be very unforgiving and might/could end very badly. This should not be attempted unless you have “some” training.
Dont you just love it when the video is longer than your shoe size in seconds?
That IS veeeeeeeeeeeeeery cool!
In the early 90s I survived parasailing in no name storm in Orlando near the airport . I used to parasail behind my car. We would find a long Open Road or path. We realized between 15 and 20 miles an hour is all we needed. One day after a long spell of not enough wind as we prefer to tie it off to a stationary object such as a parked truck or tree, we suddenly got several days of significant wind. I called my friend and we went off of Semoran Boulevard in Orlando near the airport. It was nighttime. We first tied the Rope off to my Volkswagen Microbus rear bumper. I let out about 100 ft of rope and was able to fly and still get back down. Next I let out all 600 feet. Was not a good idea. I flew around 400 ft in the night sky pulling severe G's getting tossed around like a leaf. It was so windy at that level I could not stick my arm straight out. So it was blowing above 80. It picked the back end of my Volkswagen Microbus in the air and was dragging it very fast to the east in a huge grassy field. My friend was on the ground thinking I was having a good time when I was utterly terrified. It seemed like I was up there forever. I thought I was going to die and was convinced. The peace of God came over me and then I was all right with dying strangely. Something told me to pull one of the steering toggles and I did slowly and consistently until the parasail angled off the horizon to the side and lost enough lift to land. Once I got to the ground I pulled the parasail lines inside out so it would not re-inflate. My truck transmission was destroyed as it lifted it and kept setting it down hard in reverse and there was grass stuffed up underneath the front bumper. Since then I always thought hey gyrocopter kite would be much safer in Gusty wind. I've often thought of making a dedicated version. Any comments?
Wow guy, that would have given me a heart attack. Great story. The strong winds are almost never "friendly". That's why most of the parasail guys/gals can be seen on calm early mornings or calm late evenings, when the winds are light. Not sure I would ever "kite" a parasail. You had a once in a lifetime experience with some "luck" thrown in. A gyroplane is much different in that it can handle some pretty tough wind conditions. When airplanes are getting all buffeted around, a gyroplane will be more stable. If I had rough conditions to fly in (and I have had them) give me the gyro or a helicopter any day.
You need either the wind or you need to be towed by car, boat, or anything that will produce about 22mph of wind or greater. Kiting in the wind is the most fun for me. Only you and the wind.
Well I did. I think it was 1977 in an "Easy Riser" I built in my basement. Long story but I eventually broke a bone in my right landing gear (foot). That ended my hang glider days.
@Rod Loucks Yes, the price has gone up on most modern gyro's. You can still build one more "stick" like but there are very few being sold that way. I suspect at least $15K would be needed today. Some designs are not stable like most modern machines. I met the guy that flew "Little Nellie" in the movie "You Only Live Twice", Commander Ken Wallis. He had a remarkable history in aviation. Ken has passed but not from gyros. He was still flying them at age 90.!!!
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 The Nano Fusion Copter is beautiful and built much more modern than a stick and ready to go for around $20,000. Unfortunately it is a single seater.
@@nameberry220, I will admit the Nano Fusion caught my eye. I will point out some concerns that I have. It is not for a heavy pilot since power is on the low side. I believe someone familiar with a gyro will do fine but think it is not for the "new" guy. I have some concerns with rudder authority with the rather large body. I am sure it should always be flown in "trim", coordinated flight. Most cabin gyros want to be flown in "trim" because the cabin can cause slip/yaw and get away from you. If I wanted to get back in today, I think I would strongly consider that gyro. All of the above are just my observations and not from personally flying the Nano.
No website. You can look on www.Rotaryforum and maybe PRA.org. I’m sure you can find out a little more from these.
This gyrocopter looks like the one designed by Igor Bensen.
Carmelo Rodriguez, it basically is. Minor changes with the horizontal location but most everything else is the B8 gyroplane airframe and rotor. Gyrocopter was the trade name the Bensen factory used. The official “class” is Gyroplane. Gyrocopter has such a following that even the Air Traffic Controllers tend to use it.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 Thanks Christopher for your explanation.
It is a physical way of seeing the transformation of energy, wind speed is transformed into elevation.
I feel like this would be an interesting concept for a wind turbine. A Benson B8 glider?
I agree. The wind can provide "lots" of power. This is exactly what wind turbines are all about. It is a Bensen B8 glider (not Benson) spell checker does that.
OMG 😱😳
Nice 👍
That might be a good idea for safe flight control training.
Magic!
All real my friend
i been to 3 county fairs, aint never seen nothin to beat it.
That’s shocking English.
How about: “I’ve been to three county fairs, and I’ve never seen anything that beats that”
100%wery good
defiying the laws of gravity, im a racing car passing by like lady godiva, im gona go go go there no stoping me
You might feel better about “GYROKITE PT2” which shows my cousin flying over my head. You can hear us talking. If there was any powered fan in front, you would only hear engine noise.
Я правильно понял,что этот автожир взлетает от силы встречного ветра? Это ж какая летучесть! Потрясающе!
that's the coolest
I enjoyed this "kiting" more than any flying in my 50 years of gyro flight. It's much harder than you may think but so much fun.
Merci beaucoup l'Ami
Wow that was cool thanks 🙂
Amazing!
Like a man... Luv this vid...
Awesome stuff , loved watching this , looks like heaps of fun , great learning tool I believe as well . No runway for take off or fuel expenses lol , enjoyed this video heaps .👍
Thank You. Some of the most satisfying flying in my 50+ year gyro career
Pienso igual.
Muy buen viento o un ventilador potente...
Feicidades pero deberian explicarlo..bueno
Must take a long time to wind up the elastic band
David S, it does take some waiting for the necessary winds, something 22mph or more, and steady is always nice. In Maryland, this only happened a couple days a season.
Good one! 😂
so cool, thank you
Thanks. Gyroplanes are about the coolest thing flying, free air conditioning included !!!
wonderful!...
First time I flew a gyro kite was in a Bensen Gyroglider - I was 14 years old. We towed it behind the family station wagon.
Later at the El Mirage dry lake in CA, I would hover my gyrocopter when the wind was blowing hard.
Good times.
Have to say the glider brought a lot of joy to me. No engine noise. No engine to fail. No systems to monitor. No air traffic to avoid. Fewer moving parts. Just the wind in my face and beautiful clouds sweeping by sometimes. I could almost take a nap.!!! I am very happy just hearing the rotor do its thing. But I have to say my Huey days were also that way.
just brilliant.
Fun for sure.!!!
Very cool flight time and no motor
Great! A great simulator for novice pilots. The drawings would still be found...
Very Cool .....
That's awesome.
You’re most welcome
I concur with John H, but the U boats had forward speed when towing the Focke-Achgelis Fa 330 Bachstelze, for this gyrocopter to take off a rotor speed of approaching 200rpm would have to be achieved and in order for that to happen you are looking at a wind speed of 20 - 25kts minimum.
Yes, but consider the wind is almost never calm. If you can do 10kts lets say and have a 15kt headwind, problem somewhat solved. An aircraft carrier will "turn into the wind" for that advantage when launching fighters. Also note that the Focke-Achgelis Fa 330 Bachstelze had a three blade rotor and the rotor loading was much lighter enabling it to fly with slower speeds. The higher you climb, the wind speed normal increases. Believe me there are other agencies still looking at towed aerial platforms at sea.
How did u fly without a tail rotor bro??🤔🤔
Tail rotor is not required because the main rotor is not driven, it free wheels in autorotation. You could actually lock the rudder completely in the kite configuration.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 thank you brother.
Great video Chris. Couple of questions.
How long was your tether? Is there a limit to how long you could go? I.e. 100 ft?
What happens if the tether broke?
You're having too much fun there!!!! Thank you for the video.
My cable was about 50 feet. I would say no limit to how long it could be but at some point, the cable becomes "weight" that could prevent flight. I have seen video of folks on about 1000 feet, but they were being towed into flight behind a car. That gives them many more options for good smooth and controllable wind conditions. I would not venture too high under the unpredictable conditions I was in. If the wind suddenly dies, you need to be close to the ground or you could be "smacked" into it. If the cable breaks, it would begin to move quickly backward over the ground. Another good reason not to venture too high. I can't say for sure that it would all work out "well". In that case, the rudder would become a "necessary" working control surface.
That is so cool.
wonderful!
Angle of attack.. Have you thought of attaching the cable further down the frame (like the front wheel area) you would have more stability (draw a line from the rotor hub to the cable anchor point) then the absolute front frame, act more like a kite. It seems the cable pull is trying to pitch the nose down.
suny bock , believe me the only thing keeping me from climbing higher are the unpredictable minimal winds and the length on my cable. I have seen video of folks being towed by car on a 1000 foot rope and there is no problem with the cable attaching point. It is located where you see it for several reasons. Stability, easy release (standard glider tow aircraft hook), and if you notice, there is a cable from the attachment point running up to the the control head. This is done to transfer the load of the cable pull from the tow “boom” directly up to the head where all the load is located. UP is not a problem.!!!
Very good
This idea could take off....
Well it has, with an engine. Most folks do not have the steady winds to do this everyday or each time you want to fly. This type of kiting does not require another person, just steady winds.
Só faltou mostrar o enorme ventilador que está soprando por trás da câmera
If you put steam boosters on the ends of the main propeller, and a monotube steam generator, would be very cool.
Right and very hard to accomplish. Violates that basic rule, keep it simple
I want to build something like this just for the hell of it. I might die horribly but it'd be worth it
What you need is some entrepreneur to start offering Gyro glider kits.That would definitely be a money maker
There was a time I thought someone was making the kits in Canada. However if they are, seems they are keeping it a secret.!!! I have no contact info on that. I think getting sued keeps many from pursuing that venture. The "old" folks flew them but today's modern gyro "folks" think only the expensive enclosed gyro are safe.
This is fantastic. No where to go. Just fun.
Awesome project ,Attach another holding point closer to the CG and you will achieve higher altittude,Also use a longer rope
Longer rope naturally. Ken Brock towed to 2000+ feet behind a fixed-wing and released. Too much cable and it becomes weight. The attachment point is pretty critical because the load is transferred from the control head to the tow "hitch". All these things were worked out by the manufacturer. Longer rope is about the only choice. I had about 50 feet of cable and never tried anything longer.
Awesome!
It would be awesome for helicopter training
Actually I am a retired army helicopter pilot. I feel it teaches rotor management most of all. Mainly because you can hear the rotor speed up and slow down with the wind speed changes and how it reacts to it. The simplicity of no engine or systems to monitor allows you to focus all senses on the rotor’s condition as it change’s rpm.
These questions are something else,
When you consider just how stupid the average person is,
Then realise half of them are even more stupid.
Anyway, Cool engineering guy 👍
Ps you're a champion for entertaining those questions btw, you clearly have passion for the profession. Admirable.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. I do enjoy talking gyro. Rotorcraft have made my world so much more fun. I've met some very interesting people. If you haven't flown in helicopters or gyros, you don't know what you're missing.
Also know as Gyrokite ASMR
There is a manufacturer of akkumulator circular saw.... 72ampere battery... So propeller via Batterie should be possible... No gasoline
неплохая штука.для тренировки в самый раз
I don't understand how you got the rotor up to speed without any forward motion. Can anyone explain this?
I'm not gonna lie, I wanted to see the cable snap... At least he's wearing a helmet.
At least you are honest (I guess). Anyway, a cable break would make things pretty "dicey" very quick. I can't say the outcome would be good. It would require a very quick descent from how high you were from the ground. I was usually less than about 25ft but I couldn't guarantee a smooth landing in that scenario . I suspect you would drift backward until such time you recognize and react to the loss of lift. However the glider (not this one) was towed behind an airplane to 2000 feet and released. It pretty much glided into a landing so it is possible if you have enough time to react.
I was a very active GYRO-CFI at that time. No club other than the national PRA (Popular Rotorcraft Association). I always wanted to do a video on "excessive blade flap" using the glider. It was very dramatic and easy to see what is happening and the approaching "signs". I just never got with a cameraman at the right time to do it. I would only have demonstrated this on camera in the glider as you could talk easily, hear and see the rotor climb up out of the correct tip path plane. Never would have demonstrated this so close to an actual flap in a powered machine. Time just got away.
I wonder how well that idea could work as a wind turbine making electricity without an expensive tower.
I've always thought it could generate some electricity but lots of issues involved like.. rotor will not start itself, it needs to be started by some means, hand or motor. It requires no less that about 6 mph wind to keep it spinning and at that rpm, it would not create much if any horsepower. But with about 20 mph wind and more, this configuration will lift around 400 pounds easily. I'm sure someone "smarter" than me can put all that down on paper and calculate all the numbers needed, that's just not my area of expertise. It still needs some elevation "above" the ground and the higher the smoother and stronger the air stream. I'm sure the wind turbine folks have worked out the numbers and have the design down pretty pat. Yes, their "towers" are impressive, expensive and their rotors are huge.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12
I've seen articles on kite like turbine/generator. but never a gyrocoper turbine/generator.
Conveniently, the power cable's might also serve as a tether. Furthermore, for getting it started spinning and getting it high up into into faster moving air, it is serendipitously convent that an alternator or generator for making electricity can be made to motor to get it spinning. They are in fact largely the same machine.
A generating gyrocopter need only be optimized for lifting itself and a sufficiently sized motor generator. Do you think a ballast would help with flight stability?
I'm thinking the one downside is that while wind turbines are designed to get maximal cross section of wind, a gyrocopter needs to adjust its angel to the incoming wind so as to generate lift.
To be practical flying would need to be automated. I'm guessing a cheap raspberry pi computer the size of a credit card with sensors attached to its general purpose input output pins running on 10-15 watts or so would have more than sufficent processing, and its on-board wifi would enable convent monitoring and remote control.
I'm trying to imagine what would happen if the rope broke or was released. I'm guessing it would drift backwards and the tail hit first.
If the rope broke you can tilt the rotor forward and actually accelerate and remain flying if you have enough altitude. Ken Brock released from 2000 feet being towed to altitude behind and airplane. Naturally it is controllable in a descent as long as you have some speed just before touchdown. You convert that speed to cushion your landing. From 30 feet it would be a big challenge to tilt the rotor enough forward to not drift backwards before slamming into the ground hard. I think you may not really have much to flare with for a soft touchdown. If you did nothing, what you said above would be the likely result. I used a steel cable and two stakes in the ground to not really worry about that.
Hi Chris: A little more of a technical question. Do you have any negative pitch induced into the blades at the rotor head block? If so how much angle? Lastly would a little negative pitch help lift off in lighter winds and quicker spool up of the rotor?
Any knowledge you can share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the video... watched it hundreds of times.
Look at the control stick and think of the rotor spindle as following the stick as it is tilted. Lets say the rotor spindle is vertical and the stick is also (actual degrees are different because the mast is aft 9 degrees relative to the keel). Just some more confusion, the rotor is "fixed" in pitch to about 1.5 degrees positive and bolted solidly into the hub. System is referred to as "semi-ridgid". The rotor also "teeters" within about a 10 degree window. It does this to allow for dissimilar of lift, created when the rotor turns around it's spindle. The right side is more positive creating more lift and the left side is less positive creating less lift. Best to demo this action at the gyro. As you move the stick that action is translated to the rotor via two control rods. The control "head" is essentially a universal joint that allows the rotor spindle to follow movements of the stick (cyclic). The cyclic changes the rotor pitch cyclically as the rotor turns. There is no collective.
Less fixed pitch would allow the rotor to spin up quicker but the overall result is less efficient. 1.5 degrees positive seems to work best but you can go a little more positive but not much. Less pitch slightly easier spin up but not good lift.
Sorry if this isn't understandable. Computer "jumbled" it and dropped some also.
@@christopherburgessgyro-cfi12 Thank you Chris for the quick and honest reply. Yes it does make sense and I do follow your explanation. I have a 1960"s Bensen Gyro with out motor. I have let it spool up in light winds and that is the extent I am prepared to go before I take proper Gyro lessons. I asked my question out of pure knowledge gaining :) You know how thoughts bounce around in your head... So I thought I would ask. Thanks for taking the time to teach and help... your answer is greatly appreciated.