Thanks for clicking on the video and watching everyone! Remember, these Gravity Falls uploads will be happening twice a week, Tuesday and Friday, and also please try to not spoil future episodes in the comments. I would like to experience this show as blind as possible and these reactions are more fun when I have no idea what is going to happen. I appreciate it and thank you! Mike
Ian - Wholeheartedly agree. I've noticed that as soon as reactors seem to hit s2 just about all the comments flood with spoilers (or 'haha the whoever's reacting won't GET what I'm talking about so wink wink nudge nudge I can say anything) and it's like.... just let them experience this - we're getting to share the experience because they're taking the time to actually sit and share it with us. Stop trying to rush ahead or hint at stuff because it makes it stressful for everyone.
I'm pretty sure that there was never a "too many failed passwords" problem. I think Dipper went to sleep in that second before the warning started, and Bill took that chance to make him think there was a problem to make him desperate enough to make a deal.
@@davididiart5934 Dipper yawned before the laptop had the too many failed password warning. And Bill can only be seen in dreams, because he's a dream demon. So Dipper was most likely asleep and it was probably just an illusion from Bill.
I like how you noticed what a creep Gabe was in the first few seconds of the episode. Also, you get to see what exactly Bill is capable of in this episode. He is utterly terrifying.
in the real life version of the journal, after mabel finds a fucked up note from bill, she puts it in the journal with a detailed apology and wrote about how guilty she feels about it. it's nice to see how the show acknowledged that mabel was being the tiniest bit selfish and then had her actually atone for that :)
You think it was cruel for bill to treat Dipper’s body that way? Well in the real life copy of journal 3, Mabel finds a note that bill left in the car on the way to the show about how after the show was over, he was gonna throw dippers body off the water tower to make people think that he “lost his mind” and to leave dipper stranded in the mindscape forever since he would no longer be able to enter his now dead body. As if that wasn’t creepy enough, at the end of the note bill writes “want to join him shooting star?” Which basically implies that he wants Mabel to jump off the tower as well. …..How is this a kids show?
and here i thought Code Lyoko was fucked up.... For context: In that show there are scenes such as parents being posesssed to then actively order their own children to jump off a roof and effectively commit suicide, at least two debadably legit suicide attempts by the same character, a parallel world some kids get tricked into where their best friends body is being controlled by the bad guy and they don't know for most of the episode (If you know the show, you KNOW this episode caused you nightmares, don't lie to me) and lots and lots of chocking of children....Now go watch it.
As many others, I was waiting for this episode. It's one of my favorites. I very much enjoy Bill as a villain. He's funny, but also disturbing, creepy and dangerous. Additionally, the implications of someone who capable of possessing people and finds inflicting pain funny is horrifying. Not to mention Dipper being trapped in the mindscape, desperately calling for help while no one can hear him? That would be terrifying as an adult, let alone a twelve year old kid. Side note, a kind of small fun fact: The yellow eyes and slit pupils are actually visible in-universe (as confirmed by the real life Journal 3 edition) and not just a cue for the audience. However, they are very hard to see (one has to get close to Bipper and check his eyes in order to notice them). I just really liked this detail because in many shows where possession or something along those lines is a thing, the character in question is often shown with strange eyes and no one notices for... no reason. The Journal actually provides us with a believable explanation. 03:03 Also, can I just say that I love this little scene with Bill's shadow? It instantly ramps up the episode's relevance and seriousness in just a few seconds. 3:19 The wiki states Mabel's older by five minutes. Finally, as others have mentioned in the comments, Journal 3 also shows that, after the episode, Mabel sort of came down from her Gabe-high and felt really bad for not taking the situation seriously enough (ESPECIALLY after she found Bill's note).
Fun fact whenever Dipper rubbed his eyes before Bill appeared, that was him actually falling asleep, which is why the laptop only started the data erase countdown right before Bill appeared. Why would the laptop only say there were too many failed entries after hundreds of attempts? Most laptops allow 5 or 10 attempts, why hundreds? Because there was never actually a limit in the first place. He fell asleep in that moment, Bill made it look like there was a timelimit in the dream to create pressure, and then tricked him into taking his body by using the situation with Mabel to make wordplay about "puppets" when he really wanted to possess him. Also, Bill's deal said that he had to give a hint in return for a puppet, so what did he do to hold up his end? 🤔
he did give him a hint, and it's on the destroyed computer they just haven't seen it yet. It's gonna be on one of the episodes, it's actually the reason why they start a new adventure I guess. Bill is actually smart in doing this deal, cuz he got to destroy the computer at the same time holding up his end of the deal which led them to more questions and maybe one answer but not the answer they are looking for🧐 lol👀
It always bugged me that they used Time Traveler's Pig and the Deep End as examples of Dipper sacrificing something because TTP was him using time travel to prevent Robbie from asking Wendy out when we know he'd just try again later and he's not letting Wendy make her own choice. Alex Hirsh even had to directly state that Dipper was in the wrong in that scenario. And in the Deep End, Mabel was sincerely trying to help Mermando get home which is way more important than Dipper getting to spend a bit more time hanging out with Wendy and he was immediately told he lost nothing anyway since Wendy was fired right after.
Yeah I even criticized Dipper in those reactions. They both are guilty of this behavior up to this point. I agree though that those weren't the best examples
That's the point Bill used The things Dipper was thinking that may not be wholly true. Is something that siblings, friend, and family members DO get this felling of ''maybe I doing more then the other '' also siblings have this competitive thing of '*my thing comes frist*' so yeah As was highlighted in the ep that they both were obsessed and 'my thing comes frist ' got to them
Counterpoint, it's BILL who is using those as an example. It doesn't have to be right, he's just reminding Dipper of somewhat difficult decisions he's had to do because of Mabel and, even though Dipper never shows that he's unhappy with them, they were associated with emotions of regret in the moment. Bill shows him those moments, calls them a sacrifice and uses the emotional vulnerability created to pressure him further into the deal. (As we can see, it worked on a large part of the fandom as well)
This information is not a spoiler, it's official, but it does nothing to the lore except telling more about Bill's craziness. In the official merch book, Mabel wrote a whole page about Bipper. She said that was her first time seeing Dipper smiling with all his teeth to the gums, and that terrified her. When they were driving home after the show, she found Bill's note about him destroying the journal, and then ending Dipper's body with a jump from water tower. She had chills about it a long time
@@MikeyVenture It's even more messed up because in the very same not Bill actually asks Mabel if she wants to join her brother in death. So he knew he would "lose" to them again. He knew that Mabel would find the note.
Bill is terrifying. Him abusing Dipper's body is very uncomfortable to watch. You can tell he has zero regards for anyone which is to be expected but it's another thing to see it, especially involving children 😅 Also, yes Mabel was going to give him the book. He's a master manipulator, making them second guess themselves and use their wants to do so. They are kids and are more easily manipulated into doing things even if they know it's wrong. Dipper knows how Bill is but he was desperate and Bill knew he was so he made a deal. Mabel was desperate for her play to go well and Bill tried threatening it knowing how important it was to her. The scene of Mabel running around while Bill chased her in Dipper's body is hilarious tho!
CODES FOR THIS EPISODE: The first code using the key "CIPHER" : "WE’VE ALL HAD SOME FUN TONIGHT, BUT LET’S NOT FORGET WHO THE REAL "PUPPET MASTERS" ARE: REPTOIDS WHO HAVE INFILTRATED OUR GOVERNMENT." The second code (the numeric one): "NO PUPPET STRINGS CAN HOLD ME DOWN, SO PATIENTLY I WATCH THIS TOWN, ABNORMAL SOON WILL BE THE NORM, ENJOY THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM."
Thanks so much! It’s been very tough staying spoiler free and navigating my comments. I don’t read every single one and I do have someone check them when they can to delete anything
Something to think about: Bill can only visit you while you are asleep. The creators of the show talked about how it is likely dipper fell asleep and bill manipulated his dreams to make him think that the laptop was going to erase if he failed again but in reality that was not the case.
Bill Cipher is not just the villain for season 2, he's the main villain for the whole series; and I’m so proud of saying this, Bill Cipher is my favorite villain of all time. I’m glad that you don’t know what to call him because no one knows for sure what he is. Fun Fact: Bill Cipher was created specifically because creator Alex Hirsch didn’t think Gideon was evil enough and he thought Bill could really be more evil. Also, he created Bill after the Eye of Providence which can be seen on the back of the one dollar bill and he would be named Bill after the dollar. CIPHER UPDATE: You have already been given a lot of the ciphers in this episode, but there were some that you missed. The key word, CIPHER, can be seen in the mirror’s reflection when Bill is slapping himself. Also, at 3:14, the list of possible passwords Dipper has have ciphers on them. One says, “KFIV VMVITB, MLG HPRM ZMW YLMV IRHRMT ORPV GSV HSVKZIW GLMV” and it decodes to “PURE ENERGY, NOT SKIN AND BONE RISING LIKE THE SHEPARD TONE”, and there’s a second one that says, “ZLGGOH VKLIWHU ZKDWHYV EHDUR” and it decodes to, “WIDDLE SHIFTER WHATEVS BEARO”. Fun Fact: this is the first episode with the government agents hidden in the background. You can find them somewhere in the audience at the puppet show, but you would have to rewatch this episode and watch real closely. NOTE TO SELF: if you’ve already seen episode 5 for season 2, don’t get too excited for episode 6 because that’s actually one of the worst episodes in the series.
I love episodes that has Bill Cipher in it. Idk why bit he kinda brings extra action and mystery to the story. My little sister says otherwise cuz she is afraid of Bill Cipher😅
Bill is a dream demon hence why he can only communicate through dreams- which is why the background always turned gray/monochrome whenever he was physically present. Also, the only way Bill can possess someone is through making a deal and especially shaking his hands
(We found out what Alex Hirsch meant the computer password to be SPOILERS Alex went on a trip to Russia just after the show ended, and attended a bunch of conventions there (because Gravity Falls is HUGELY popular in Russia, there was a big fandom population there). A bunch of fans took photos and those got onto the internet. For some reason, there was a mock-up of McGucket's laptop set up at one of the conventions, like, a working one. And there was a photo of Alex typing the password into it. The password is STANFORD. In the regular edition of Journal 3 that you can buy, there is a drawing of the laptop. In the special edition Blacklight Journal, the password is revealed with hidden blacklight letters.
The thing with Dipper and Mabel when they argue is that they both think they’re doing what is right. The difference comes in with what they think is right. Dipper looks at things from a logical perspective, so even in instances where he goes overboard and gets a little greedy, he’s usually not wrong. The main exceptions with this involve Wendy because she’s his crush. But then when you look at what Mabel thinks is right, it’s almost always what is best for her, not necessarily the people around her, and she often causes people around her to suffer because of it. That being said, I still love Mabel, and I think that the things she does are very understandable for a 12 year old.
Exactly why Mabel's selfishness was more hated by the fandom. Both are still being selfish in their own accords tho. I didnt really mind it that much til i discovered the fandom.
I didnt mind it as much either. But when I just sit down and remember all the times Mabel let Dipper down or was selfish and never punished for her selfishness unlike Dipper. It feels unfair, the show is biased for Mabel. Even in this episode her supposed sacrifice for her brother after she still priorotiesed the guy over the safety and life of her brother, was meaningless cause the guy is crazy and she dodged the bullet ther.
one of my favorite episodes!!! bill is so unhinged, but it's really one of the things that draws me into gravity falls. loved your reaction, you're really observant!! i love that bill finally points out mabel's selfishness & plays upon it. really deepens her character to have flaws like that while also finally having some consequences to being that way! tidbit for the future, episodes 5 & 6 are definitely fun, but they don't have any big lore implications. episode 7, though... well, you'll see! i would recommend steering clear of anything regarding season 2's episode 11 & 12 for the time being if you can help it, as their titles are definitely spoilers! at 3:14 you can see journal 3 in the background has a code in abtash! "KFIV VMVITB MLG HPRM ZMW YLMV IRHRMT ORPV GSV HSVKZIW GLMV" = "Pure energy, not skin and bone, rising like the Shepard tone" the other words above & to the right of the journal (the ones that are circled/crossed out/etc) are in caesarian, & they read: ZLGGOH = WIDDLE VKLIWHU = SHIFTER ZKDWHYV = WHATEVS EHDUR = BEARO
What makes Bill even more evil in this episode, is that he could’ve just chilled in Dipper’s body and gotten the journal but instead he goes crazy in it
Oh boy, another story filled episode!! Not my favorite, but bill cipher is in here, so it’s pretty dang good. After I finished the show when it came out, bill cipher quickly became my favorite character. You may understand why as the show goes on… anyways can’t wait for the reaction!
The two codes into his episode are probably my favorites!! They are so good! The first is: WE’VE ALL HAD SOME FUN TONIGHT, BUT LET’S NOT FORGET WHO THE REAL "PUPPET MASTERS" ARE: REPTOIDS WHO HAVE INFILTRATED OUR GOVERNMENT ." And the second is: NO PUPPET STRINGS CAN HOLD ME DOWN," "SO PATIENTLY I WATCH THIS TOWN," "ABNORMAL SOON WILL BE THE NORM ENJOY THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM." Not forboding at all.... Right? ;)
I'm pretty sure Disney made them cut it because it was too much but Bill originally said that after destroying the journal he was gonna throw himself off the water tower still in Dipper's body to get rid of him. Now that's messed up. Not sure where I heard it though so don't take this as a fact
No idea if anyone else has mentioned this yet, but apparently, Bill's plan if he succeeded in destroying the journal would have been to throw 'himself' off of the water tower, reentering the dream realm and killing dipper
It turns out u can see the agents in this episode u can see them in the audience with news papers when everyone is clapping also when dippers goes through the mystery shacks floor u can see a listen device that they hid
2:30 - 👉👈 Coordination: Excellent! ✔ 2:38 - *“Uhh, I hope this doesn't have a, like, ‘10 failed logins and you're locked out forever’.”* That Laptop has been lying in the bunker since 1982. Security wasn't quite as tight back then. 4:53 - *“No, I don't want that. No. Get rid of that! Kill it!”* Whoops! Be careful what you wish for, I guess. 😁 7:16 - *_“Too. Many. Failed. Entries.“_* See? It was a _“10.000_ failed logins and you're locked out forever.” Much more lenient. 12:34 - *“Oh, jeez, he is so scary! In that Reverend- That Reverend outfit makes him look like such a villain.”* His "Reverend" costume was inspired by Robert Mitchum as Harry Powell in _Night of the Hunter,_ so that impression is _not_ a coincidence.
Hi Mike! I just wanted to say that I’ve been making my way through your Gravity Falls videos this week and they are some of the most enjoyable reactions I’ve seen! It’s always really fun to see people still discovering what an amazing series Gravity Falls was (and still is!) even when the fandom has dwindled over the past few years. You seem to have such a fun time watching the show and just genuinely enjoying it, as well as noticing the bits and pieces of the overarching plot threads. I especially enjoyed how you picked up on a lot of the show’s central themes very early on in the first episodes of season one! And I appreciated that you noted how both Dipper and Mabel have selfish tendencies even if they express them differently. Mabel tends to get some weirdly vehement hate beyond just character analysis from portions of the fandom (which seems more prevalent on RUclips than other platforms). I find it sad that with all of the awesome Gravity Falls fandom trends that have faded into obscurity, the disproportionate Mabel hate is something that has persisted. Mabel’s chaos, enthusiasm, flaws, heart and mistakes have always intrigued me and are super interesting to explore both within the context of the show and in extra-canon fan content (I mayyyyy do a bit of this). Personally, she became one of my favorite characters because of her complex traits, not in spite of them. To me, Gravity Falls is a show that uses absurdist humor to tell a complex and engaging story of very flawed characters making questionable choices and dealing with the consequences, some of which are much more far-reaching than others. I look forward to catching up on your reactions and watching more as you post them, especially as the heavy season 2 lore starts to ramp up!
I appreciate the kind words! And I find Mabel incredibly compelling and I love how much she embraces who she is. She does make mistakes, like all of us do, but I also don’t understand some of the negativity she receives by many. I honestly love all of the main characters of the show
@@MikeyVenture Thank you for your reply! I love pretty much all of the characters as well! They are all just so much fun and various levels of unhinged! There’s a lot more that can be discussed but that will have to wait until further episodes, so as not to get into spoilery territory. What I will say is that most everything in Gravity Falls is very deliberately crafted and it’s honestly as much fun to rewatch because you get to watch the story unfold with a new perspective!
What I've never really seen brought up for Sock Opera is the fact that it's a mirror of Time Traveller's Pig. In both scenarios, one sibling has extremely unrealistic goals to woo their crush, to the point that they consider letting their other half suffer so they can obtain something (or more specifically someone) that they really have no business with. Hell, Dipper breaks Time Law and gets Blendin arrested because of his jealousy! I think people get disproportionally mad at Mabel because her goals aren't relevant to the main plot or characters. We excuse Dipper's selfishness and putting the people around him in danger (Summerween Trickster, the Bunker, time travel) because it's WENDY, a consistent and engaging character of her own. But at this point in the series, the plot's stakes are unknown to the kids. Dipper feels compelled to find the author for personal fulfillment, he doesn't know about what's in the basement. There's always been weirdness in Gravity Falls, him finding the answer isn't going to solve an impending problem (to his knowledge). But since the series is tied to unlocking the mysteries these kids are being put through, we feel compelled to side with him and dismiss Mabel. If this series were titled "Mabel's Quest for Summer Romance," then Dipper would be cast as the idiot brother who goes looking for trouble and puts everyone in danger to satisfy his inane curiosity. TL;DR: They're both kids, and kids are selfish screw ups. That's how they learn.
Yeah, We learn that Bill had plans for dippers body, he was gonna destroy the Journal, Climb the water tower and throw dippers body off and in bills words “I want everyone to think the kid lost his marbles” and then he wanted to rub dead dipper into mable’s face until she killed herself. Bill genuinely sucks, he’s cruel and evil. Great episode, I like that you can relate the episodes to reality. Great video and it’s still January 3rd. 19/?
Look can everyone stop crapping on Mabel for being selfish? They both make mistakes in this area. Sure this is a more serious situation but Mabel didn’t know exactly what was going on because Dipper hadn’t been informing her of the seriousness of it. (And was Mabel just supposed to automatically know? There’s been so many times where Dipper has prioritised Wendy over Mabel, only to realise later. This is Mabel’s episode of doing the same.) Of course this was more important but really Dipper was getting just as obsessed I mean there was no time limit on the password he didn’t need to figure it out right away, at the same time I totally understand his excitement, but still. I dunno I mean in the time travelers pig Dipper was in the wrong anyway and the pool episode saving mermando was way more important than Dipper keeping his job that he only got to spend time with a girl... kind of familiar hey? Mabel asked if they could do it after the show because she can’t read Dippers mind so she didn’t realise how much danger they were in. Once he clarified she went and risked her life to help him. They are just siblings who make mistakes and annoy each other and can be selfish and obsessed but at the bottom of it they just love each other and will do anything they can for one another. We’re biased toward Dipper in this scenario because we too want the mysteries to be solved but we can’t just assume Mabel knows things that Dipper never told her. They are both equally messy and beautiful characters and I don’t get why people drag Mabel through way more crap than Dipper!
I mean I’ve been very fair to both of them throughout my reactions. I agree she gets a lot of unwarranted hate though. But I’ve criticized both of them for their behavior up to this point. Dipper more than Mabel actually
Idk but Mabel was more in the wrong here tho. Isnt Dipper being not in his own body already such a big problem? And they both know how crazy dangerous it is to make a deal with Bill so she should be aware of the severity of the situation when Dipper came to her as a puppet, telling her he was tricked. While she did try to help, she didnt take it too seriously. She also ALMOST gave the journal to Bill, that even she probably knows she shouldnt. Why she would know? Because she already encountered Bill of course. Giving that journal wouldve sealed Dipper's fate (death of his body and being trapped in the mindscape forever) Note that im talking about only this episode. Im not saying Mabel is worse. They both are selfish in their own accords. Dipper had his moments too.
@MikeyVenture Yeah totally noticed that. Was more commenting in reference to some other comments. Wanted to make sure because of other comments you wouldn’t be swayed to going down the dark path of disliking Mabel 😂
Oh MAN this one of my favourite episodes. Like, far up there. Bipper is terrifying, and the consequences of the deal was so disturbing. Same with the disregard for Dipper's health. Maybe I just like the serious and disturbing episodes too much.
Since you've already reacted to Society of the Blind eye, I can now point out what some other fans pointed out with the fact that, by smashing the laptop, Bill still technically gave them a hint by letting them see the 'McGucket Labs' thing, thus holding up his end of the bargin in a Monkeys Paw fashion, just a cool detail
What Bill was doing to Dipper's poor body, it gets worse when you find out in some supplimental material (the IRL Journal 3) that Bill was planning to take Dipper's body and swan dive off the water tower after destroying the journal, leaving Dipper dead and stuck in the mindscape
The Gabe part of this episode is hard for me to watch. I'm actually *seriously* against the whole random crush thing. I hate the trope where a character sees someone and instantly thinks they're "in love" just because they like their appearance. It bothers me even more when that character is willing to lie and/or change who they are just to impress this person they don't even know, as if it's worth loving someone who doesn't think you're already good enough as you are. I know Mabel is 12, but I was 12 before and I always felt this way. I was never interested in anything less than true love, a deep spiritual bond, something that lasts forever. Actually that's why I hate all teen shows where the characters are getting in random relationships with people just because of their looks, or some other shallow reason like their accent, or because they have a car, or play guitar, etc. It especially bothers me when the character is eager to kiss people, and kisses more than one person throughout the show, even knowing they're just another temporary crush and they'll probably be with someone else next week. I never understood why anybody is like that...
(I'm writting this comentary knowing that he has already watched episodes 11 and 12) Fun fact:There is a real life version of the journal 3 that actually answers A LOT of questions, like how does the botomless pit work, and in the limited versions of it that have the invisible ink it is revealed that the password was STANFORD
Great reaction as always!!!! bill is screwed up in so many ways and I'm happy to know how much you hate gabe. can't wait for more! (also hope you don't mind me saying this but you have pretty eyes)
ah yes the ever deceptive sock opera title haha. another great reaction, it’s really refreshing to see a reaction of someone completely unspoiled! two things i want to mention/tell you: 1. there’s a sort of trivia/behind the scenes special called “between the pines” that’s a good watch later down the line. it was released right before the final episode aired, so you could either react to it before the finale or after you’ve finished the entire series. 2. once you’ve finished the entire series i 100% recommend rewatching it at some point on your own time. it’s amazing to rewatch once you have all the clues put into place. no spoilers for what those answers are but it’s definitely a series you can rewatch and find new things! again great reaction, bill really is a terrifying villain
The main issue with this show is that the sentence "You just gotta roll with Mabels craziness, its what makes life worth living" isnt just the opinion of Wendy, its more or less the creators statements to the fans. Mabel does a lot of terrible stuff and is generally an irritating character in a lot of situations. And other than Dipper, Wendy or even Stan, she doesnt learn anything throughout this show. The ending of this episode feels more like a concession, more like "fine, now Mabel gave something up" coming from the creators rather than any meaningful change. And I can explain what I mean with that when you finished the show.
I would disagree, she learns plenty in the show imo- Alex Hirsch has even said before that is response to a bunch of the critics is that she is a 12 year old girl
My favorite way of describing Bill is when I saw this RUclips comment on the video of the show where it was like you feel like while he’s talking to you he’ll either try to tell a really bad joke or eat you lol And that’s totally how I feel about Bill
Also a little fun disturbing fact about this episode in the written journal that they sold after the show ended Bill stated in a note he left on the car floor that Mabel found that he was having so much fun with Dipper‘s body and once he destroyed the journal he was going to toss it off the water tower and asked if Mabel wanted to join him
I love reading the comments and seeing people debate about which sibling is more selfish. They both mess up and can be selfish at times but thats why they are great characters (although i do have to say Dipper is my favorite 😂)
As I have said before, to analyze Bill is to make him scarier and may spoil things as some of us have an idea of what he is after. He is a solid, scary villain.
Mabel is literally 12, she's just a child, it would have been weird if both siblings acted super mature at that age. They are both imperfect people and I don't think that's a good enough reason to dislike Mabel
@@FlyingLine I mean… I feel like even a 12 year old should know their brother having their body possessed by a demon should take priority over… a puppet show.
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You need someone you trust that has watched the series already to check your comments before you do, just a reccomendation
Ian - Wholeheartedly agree. I've noticed that as soon as reactors seem to hit s2 just about all the comments flood with spoilers (or 'haha the whoever's reacting won't GET what I'm talking about so wink wink nudge nudge I can say anything) and it's like.... just let them experience this - we're getting to share the experience because they're taking the time to actually sit and share it with us. Stop trying to rush ahead or hint at stuff because it makes it stressful for everyone.
I think you gonna love the ending of the season 2
It is MUCH more darker then you think if you’ve read the real life version of Journal #3
I'm pretty sure that there was never a "too many failed passwords" problem. I think Dipper went to sleep in that second before the warning started, and Bill took that chance to make him think there was a problem to make him desperate enough to make a deal.
Yup, that's confirmed in the commentary
Bill you sneaky bastard
Wait, what? When? How? How do you know that?
@@davididiart5934 Dipper yawned before the laptop had the too many failed password warning. And Bill can only be seen in dreams, because he's a dream demon. So Dipper was most likely asleep and it was probably just an illusion from Bill.
Dipper also briefly closed his eyes right before Bill appears, hinting that he fell asleep.
One thing you keep in mind. Bill when stating the deal said that he would help Dipper "crack" the laptop. He did so.
I like how you noticed what a creep Gabe was in the first few seconds of the episode. Also, you get to see what exactly Bill is capable of in this episode. He is utterly terrifying.
Instantly I got bad vibes from him 😂 And yeah, Bill really showed an incredibly sinister side to him in this episode
Honestly, Bill using Dipper's body to experience pain is one of the most disturbing and at the same time hilarious things in this show
Yeah when you realize what he's actually doing it is quite disturbing
"Haha! Pain is hilarious!"
then you read journal 3 and find out bill was gonna throw himself off the watertower in dipers body... 😬
in the real life version of the journal, after mabel finds a fucked up note from bill, she puts it in the journal with a detailed apology and wrote about how guilty she feels about it. it's nice to see how the show acknowledged that mabel was being the tiniest bit selfish and then had her actually atone for that :)
That’s a nice touch. I look forward to getting a copy once I’m through the series
She also atones further a bit in the canon comic.
That note from Bill in the journal, is so fucked up. Like oh my god it's super scary!
@@NerdyMariaMania I was literally taken aback by it, like wow. I'm surprised disney allowed something that messed up to be published honestly.
Even a sociopath would apologize after reading the crap Bill wrote. I ain't convinced.
4:12 Not gonna lie, Bill's transition into the mindscape with the moon is the cleanest animation in this show...
You think it was cruel for bill to treat Dipper’s body that way? Well in the real life copy of journal 3, Mabel finds a note that bill left in the car on the way to the show about how after the show was over, he was gonna throw dippers body off the water tower to make people think that he “lost his mind” and to leave dipper stranded in the mindscape forever since he would no longer be able to enter his now dead body. As if that wasn’t creepy enough, at the end of the note bill writes “want to join him shooting star?” Which basically implies that he wants Mabel to jump off the tower as well. …..How is this a kids show?
The main protagonists are kids, so it's a kids show.
Such is the way of Disney.
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and here i thought Code Lyoko was fucked up....
For context: In that show there are scenes such as parents being posesssed to then actively order their own children to jump off a roof and effectively commit suicide, at least two debadably legit suicide attempts by the same character, a parallel world some kids get tricked into where their best friends body is being controlled by the bad guy and they don't know for most of the episode (If you know the show, you KNOW this episode caused you nightmares, don't lie to me) and lots and lots of chocking of children....Now go watch it.
As many others, I was waiting for this episode. It's one of my favorites. I very much enjoy Bill as a villain. He's funny, but also disturbing, creepy and dangerous. Additionally, the implications of someone who capable of possessing people and finds inflicting pain funny is horrifying. Not to mention Dipper being trapped in the mindscape, desperately calling for help while no one can hear him? That would be terrifying as an adult, let alone a twelve year old kid.
Side note, a kind of small fun fact: The yellow eyes and slit pupils are actually visible in-universe (as confirmed by the real life Journal 3 edition) and not just a cue for the audience. However, they are very hard to see (one has to get close to Bipper and check his eyes in order to notice them). I just really liked this detail because in many shows where possession or something along those lines is a thing, the character in question is often shown with strange eyes and no one notices for... no reason. The Journal actually provides us with a believable explanation.
03:03 Also, can I just say that I love this little scene with Bill's shadow? It instantly ramps up the episode's relevance and seriousness in just a few seconds.
3:19 The wiki states Mabel's older by five minutes.
Finally, as others have mentioned in the comments, Journal 3 also shows that, after the episode, Mabel sort of came down from her Gabe-high and felt really bad for not taking the situation seriously enough (ESPECIALLY after she found Bill's note).
Yeah I thought this was just going to be another goofy episode, but when that shadow popped up the stakes were instantly raised
Fun fact whenever Dipper rubbed his eyes before Bill appeared, that was him actually falling asleep, which is why the laptop only started the data erase countdown right before Bill appeared. Why would the laptop only say there were too many failed entries after hundreds of attempts? Most laptops allow 5 or 10 attempts, why hundreds? Because there was never actually a limit in the first place.
He fell asleep in that moment, Bill made it look like there was a timelimit in the dream to create pressure, and then tricked him into taking his body by using the situation with Mabel to make wordplay about "puppets" when he really wanted to possess him.
Also, Bill's deal said that he had to give a hint in return for a puppet, so what did he do to hold up his end? 🤔
I don't know if you watched the show, but if not you'll see soon enough
Oh I have, I watched the series as it originally came out!
That Bill is a sneaky one
he did give him a hint, and it's on the destroyed computer they just haven't seen it yet. It's gonna be on one of the episodes, it's actually the reason why they start a new adventure I guess. Bill is actually smart in doing this deal, cuz he got to destroy the computer at the same time holding up his end of the deal which led them to more questions and maybe one answer but not the answer they are looking for🧐 lol👀
@@nairagar7338 spoiler warning
It always bugged me that they used Time Traveler's Pig and the Deep End as examples of Dipper sacrificing something because TTP was him using time travel to prevent Robbie from asking Wendy out when we know he'd just try again later and he's not letting Wendy make her own choice. Alex Hirsh even had to directly state that Dipper was in the wrong in that scenario. And in the Deep End, Mabel was sincerely trying to help Mermando get home which is way more important than Dipper getting to spend a bit more time hanging out with Wendy and he was immediately told he lost nothing anyway since Wendy was fired right after.
Yeah I even criticized Dipper in those reactions. They both are guilty of this behavior up to this point. I agree though that those weren't the best examples
FUCKING THANK YOU, I'M SO TIRED OF PEOPLE CALLING MABEL SELFISH BECAUSE OF THAT
That's the point Bill used The things Dipper was thinking that may not be wholly true. Is something that siblings, friend, and family members DO get this felling of ''maybe I doing more then the other '' also siblings have this competitive thing of '*my thing comes frist*' so yeah
As was highlighted in the ep that they both were obsessed and 'my thing comes frist ' got to them
Counterpoint, it's BILL who is using those as an example. It doesn't have to be right, he's just reminding Dipper of somewhat difficult decisions he's had to do because of Mabel and, even though Dipper never shows that he's unhappy with them, they were associated with emotions of regret in the moment. Bill shows him those moments, calls them a sacrifice and uses the emotional vulnerability created to pressure him further into the deal.
(As we can see, it worked on a large part of the fandom as well)
@@vlcharlie4884 They were BOTH selfish. Just because one of them were selfish don't mean the other one can't be too.
This information is not a spoiler, it's official, but it does nothing to the lore except telling more about Bill's craziness.
In the official merch book, Mabel wrote a whole page about Bipper. She said that was her first time seeing Dipper smiling with all his teeth to the gums, and that terrified her. When they were driving home after the show, she found Bill's note about him destroying the journal, and then ending Dipper's body with a jump from water tower. She had chills about it a long time
Holy crap that's so messed up
Damn that’s fucked
I don't have the book but didn't Bill's note telling Mabel to join her brother, who is forever trapped in the mindscape?
@@cosmicorder2 yep i remember that and it's the one thing my mind goes to when watching this episode
@@MikeyVenture It's even more messed up because in the very same not Bill actually asks Mabel if she wants to join her brother in death. So he knew he would "lose" to them again. He knew that Mabel would find the note.
Bill is terrifying. Him abusing Dipper's body is very uncomfortable to watch. You can tell he has zero regards for anyone which is to be expected but it's another thing to see it, especially involving children 😅
Also, yes Mabel was going to give him the book. He's a master manipulator, making them second guess themselves and use their wants to do so. They are kids and are more easily manipulated into doing things even if they know it's wrong. Dipper knows how Bill is but he was desperate and Bill knew he was so he made a deal. Mabel was desperate for her play to go well and Bill tried threatening it knowing how important it was to her. The scene of Mabel running around while Bill chased her in Dipper's body is hilarious tho!
Yeah the realization of what’s he doing to Dipper’s body is unsettling. Truly evil stuff
"He's a master manipulator making them second uess themselves and use their wants to do so." 100% agreed.
His genius is making you want to trust him.
CODES FOR THIS EPISODE:
The first code using the key "CIPHER" : "WE’VE ALL HAD SOME FUN TONIGHT, BUT LET’S NOT FORGET WHO THE REAL "PUPPET MASTERS" ARE: REPTOIDS WHO HAVE INFILTRATED OUR GOVERNMENT."
The second code (the numeric one): "NO PUPPET STRINGS CAN HOLD ME DOWN, SO PATIENTLY I WATCH THIS TOWN, ABNORMAL SOON WILL BE THE NORM, ENJOY THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM."
Man I love that second one.
At least Reptoids sre decent folk. After all a traditional greeting among their kind is a hug.
it’s always great to see someone’s pure unspoiled reaction to this show, and your reactions have definitely been a fav :)
Thanks so much! It’s been very tough staying spoiler free and navigating my comments. I don’t read every single one and I do have someone check them when they can to delete anything
Something to think about: Bill can only visit you while you are asleep. The creators of the show talked about how it is likely dipper fell asleep and bill manipulated his dreams to make him think that the laptop was going to erase if he failed again but in reality that was not the case.
Yep, I thought the same
Bill Cipher is not just the villain for season 2, he's the main villain for the whole series; and I’m so proud of saying this, Bill Cipher is my favorite villain of all time. I’m glad that you don’t know what to call him because no one knows for sure what he is. Fun Fact: Bill Cipher was created specifically because creator Alex Hirsch didn’t think Gideon was evil enough and he thought Bill could really be more evil. Also, he created Bill after the Eye of Providence which can be seen on the back of the one dollar bill and he would be named Bill after the dollar.
CIPHER UPDATE: You have already been given a lot of the ciphers in this episode, but there were some that you missed. The key word, CIPHER, can be seen in the mirror’s reflection when Bill is slapping himself. Also, at 3:14, the list of possible passwords Dipper has have ciphers on them. One says, “KFIV VMVITB, MLG HPRM ZMW YLMV IRHRMT ORPV GSV HSVKZIW GLMV” and it decodes to “PURE ENERGY, NOT SKIN AND BONE RISING LIKE THE SHEPARD TONE”, and there’s a second one that says, “ZLGGOH VKLIWHU ZKDWHYV EHDUR” and it decodes to, “WIDDLE SHIFTER WHATEVS BEARO”.
Fun Fact: this is the first episode with the government agents hidden in the background. You can find them somewhere in the audience at the puppet show, but you would have to rewatch this episode and watch real closely.
NOTE TO SELF: if you’ve already seen episode 5 for season 2, don’t get too excited for episode 6 because that’s actually one of the worst episodes in the series.
Yeah Bill is my favorite villain ever too
He’s an impressive villain for sure
It’s not my favorite but I still like episode 6, I find it funny, honestly one of my least favorite episodes was 16 of this season
I love episodes that has Bill Cipher in it. Idk why bit he kinda brings extra action and mystery to the story. My little sister says otherwise cuz she is afraid of Bill Cipher😅
He’s a great character. Even though it’s easy to hate him because he’s the villain, but you got appreciate how unique he is
Bill is a dream demon hence why he can only communicate through dreams- which is why the background always turned gray/monochrome whenever he was physically present. Also, the only way Bill can possess someone is through making a deal and especially shaking his hands
"No puppet strings can hold me down"
"So patienly i watch this town"
Abnormal soon will be the norm"
"Enjoy the calm before the storm"
⚠️⚠️SPOILERS BELOW⚠️⚠️
⚠️⚠️SPOILERS BELOW⚠️⚠️
⚠️⚠️SPOILERS BELOW⚠️⚠️
i always thought the computer password was “Stanowar”
(We found out what Alex Hirsch meant the computer password to be
SPOILERS
Alex went on a trip to Russia just after the show ended, and attended a bunch of conventions there (because Gravity Falls is HUGELY popular in Russia, there was a big fandom population there). A bunch of fans took photos and those got onto the internet. For some reason, there was a mock-up of McGucket's laptop set up at one of the conventions, like, a working one. And there was a photo of Alex typing the password into it.
The password is STANFORD.
In the regular edition of Journal 3 that you can buy, there is a drawing of the laptop. In the special edition Blacklight Journal, the password is revealed with hidden blacklight letters.
The thing with Dipper and Mabel when they argue is that they both think they’re doing what is right. The difference comes in with what they think is right.
Dipper looks at things from a logical perspective, so even in instances where he goes overboard and gets a little greedy, he’s usually not wrong. The main exceptions with this involve Wendy because she’s his crush.
But then when you look at what Mabel thinks is right, it’s almost always what is best for her, not necessarily the people around her, and she often causes people around her to suffer because of it.
That being said, I still love Mabel, and I think that the things she does are very understandable for a 12 year old.
Exactly why Mabel's selfishness was more hated by the fandom. Both are still being selfish in their own accords tho. I didnt really mind it that much til i discovered the fandom.
I didnt mind it as much either. But when I just sit down and remember all the times Mabel let Dipper down or was selfish and never punished for her selfishness unlike Dipper. It feels unfair, the show is biased for Mabel. Even in this episode her supposed sacrifice for her brother after she still priorotiesed the guy over the safety and life of her brother, was meaningless cause the guy is crazy and she dodged the bullet ther.
It gets even better, this is my favorite animated series of all time
It’s a fantastic show. I look forward to binging both seasons once I finish it for RUclips
one of my favorite episodes!!! bill is so unhinged, but it's really one of the things that draws me into gravity falls. loved your reaction, you're really observant!! i love that bill finally points out mabel's selfishness & plays upon it. really deepens her character to have flaws like that while also finally having some consequences to being that way!
tidbit for the future, episodes 5 & 6 are definitely fun, but they don't have any big lore implications. episode 7, though... well, you'll see!
i would recommend steering clear of anything regarding season 2's episode 11 & 12 for the time being if you can help it, as their titles are definitely spoilers!
at 3:14 you can see journal 3 in the background has a code in abtash!
"KFIV VMVITB MLG HPRM ZMW YLMV IRHRMT ORPV GSV HSVKZIW GLMV" =
"Pure energy, not skin and bone, rising like the Shepard tone"
the other words above & to the right of the journal (the ones that are circled/crossed out/etc) are in caesarian, & they read:
ZLGGOH = WIDDLE
VKLIWHU = SHIFTER
ZKDWHYV = WHATEVS
EHDUR = BEARO
7:57: Aaaand here's where everyone fell for Bill's trap and said that Mabel was aweful.
What makes Bill even more evil in this episode, is that he could’ve just chilled in Dipper’s body and gotten the journal but instead he goes crazy in it
for whatever reason this is my most rewatched episode lol
It’s definitely up there for me so far, but lots of season 2 left
Great reaction! This really showed Bills abilities and personalty, this makes him one of my top villains of all time!
Oh boy, another story filled episode!! Not my favorite, but bill cipher is in here, so it’s pretty dang good. After I finished the show when it came out, bill cipher quickly became my favorite character. You may understand why as the show goes on… anyways can’t wait for the reaction!
“Get rid of it! Kill it!” I mean he technically did what you asked
Bill can't even comprehend why someone would be selfless, he's so genuinely confused when mabel refuses him like "EH?"
oh god, i waited a long time for you to live this episode, it's one of the best of the series in my opinion
All of these season 2 episodes are all part of my childhood lox they all feel like classics lol. Wonderful reaction by the way, I really enjoyed it.
So far season 2 has been incredible. And thank you!
The two codes into his episode are probably my favorites!! They are so good! The first is: WE’VE ALL HAD SOME FUN TONIGHT, BUT LET’S NOT FORGET WHO THE REAL "PUPPET MASTERS" ARE: REPTOIDS WHO HAVE INFILTRATED OUR GOVERNMENT ."
And the second is: NO PUPPET STRINGS CAN HOLD ME DOWN," "SO PATIENTLY I WATCH THIS TOWN," "ABNORMAL SOON WILL BE THE NORM ENJOY THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM."
Not forboding at all.... Right? ;)
Can you believe it that this show is for kids? It's rated 8+
OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING EVERYBODY STAY CALM-
*goes crazy*
I'm pretty sure Disney made them cut it because it was too much but Bill originally said that after destroying the journal he was gonna throw himself off the water tower still in Dipper's body to get rid of him. Now that's messed up. Not sure where I heard it though so don't take this as a fact
It's in the real 3 journal you can buy. Its canon
@@AdorianDelmore yeah, I don't have the journal (yet) but that's where it was from
I'M A DREAM DEMON FROM THE NIGHTMARE REALM!
Oh boy! This is my favorite episode! Can’t wait to see how you like it. 😁
Pssssst! Bill Cipher is secretly *ACTUALLY*...
...a triangle! Shhhhhhhhhhhh!
This concludes my TedTalk.
TED TALK???? YOU HUMANS AND YOUR JOKES!
Oh ive been waiting for this. And its here its finally finally here...
I see what you did there
me too
Yea lol
Bill is not a demon, but it is the closest thing the human mind can comprehend
THAT IS TRUE!
I love when villains could be scary as threat and give us chills , I love this , I think it's cool.
No idea if anyone else has mentioned this yet, but apparently, Bill's plan if he succeeded in destroying the journal would have been to throw 'himself' off of the water tower, reentering the dream realm and killing dipper
Bill was honestly adorable in this episode
It turns out u can see the agents in this episode u can see them in the audience with news papers when everyone is clapping also when dippers goes through the mystery shacks floor u can see a listen device that they hid
2:30 - 👉👈
Coordination: Excellent! ✔
2:38 - *“Uhh, I hope this doesn't have a, like, ‘10 failed logins and you're locked out forever’.”*
That Laptop has been lying in the bunker since 1982. Security wasn't quite as tight back then.
4:53 - *“No, I don't want that. No. Get rid of that! Kill it!”*
Whoops! Be careful what you wish for, I guess. 😁
7:16 - *_“Too. Many. Failed. Entries.“_*
See? It was a _“10.000_ failed logins and you're locked out forever.” Much more lenient.
12:34 - *“Oh, jeez, he is so scary! In that Reverend- That Reverend outfit makes him look like such a villain.”*
His "Reverend" costume was inspired by Robert Mitchum as Harry Powell in _Night of the Hunter,_ so that impression is _not_ a coincidence.
Oooh Night of the Hunter is fantastic! I totally see it
Bill is a dream demon.
INDEED I AM!
Yeah he is
the worst from Bill has yet to come, so you better brace yourself
15:06 great timing.
The fact that a Dream Dorito called Mabel out on being selfish shows that it’s a real problem
Hi Mike! I just wanted to say that I’ve been making my way through your Gravity Falls videos this week and they are some of the most enjoyable reactions I’ve seen! It’s always really fun to see people still discovering what an amazing series Gravity Falls was (and still is!) even when the fandom has dwindled over the past few years.
You seem to have such a fun time watching the show and just genuinely enjoying it, as well as noticing the bits and pieces of the overarching plot threads.
I especially enjoyed how you picked up on a lot of the show’s central themes very early on in the first episodes of season one! And I appreciated that you noted how both Dipper and Mabel have selfish tendencies even if they express them differently. Mabel tends to get some weirdly vehement hate beyond just character analysis from portions of the fandom (which seems more prevalent on RUclips than other platforms). I find it sad that with all of the awesome Gravity Falls fandom trends that have faded into obscurity, the disproportionate Mabel hate is something that has persisted. Mabel’s chaos, enthusiasm, flaws, heart and mistakes have always intrigued me and are super interesting to explore both within the context of the show and in extra-canon fan content (I mayyyyy do a bit of this). Personally, she became one of my favorite characters because of her complex traits, not in spite of them.
To me, Gravity Falls is a show that uses absurdist humor to tell a complex and engaging story of very flawed characters making questionable choices and dealing with the consequences, some of which are much more far-reaching than others.
I look forward to catching up on your reactions and watching more as you post them, especially as the heavy season 2 lore starts to ramp up!
I appreciate the kind words! And I find Mabel incredibly compelling and I love how much she embraces who she is. She does make mistakes, like all of us do, but I also don’t understand some of the negativity she receives by many. I honestly love all of the main characters of the show
@@MikeyVenture Thank you for your reply! I love pretty much all of the characters as well! They are all just so much fun and various levels of unhinged! There’s a lot more that can be discussed but that will have to wait until further episodes, so as not to get into spoilery territory. What I will say is that most everything in Gravity Falls is very deliberately crafted and it’s honestly as much fun to rewatch because you get to watch the story unfold with a new perspective!
hands down one of the best episodes ever
It was legitimately great. Definitely up there for me
WAIT... WHO ARE YOU?
@@billcipher2780 There is 1 imposter Among Us 💀
@@marul5849 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! I'M POSSESSING A CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I'M NOT AS EVIL AS I USED TO BE)
This is my favorite individual episode. Huge Muppet fan and love the end credit bit, especially. Well, that and angry Kermit/Dipper.
I think Alex Hirsch still has those puppets! They've shown up on a few other occasions, even since the series ended.
@@gryphonvert I know there are some shorts and stuff featuring them! :)
Now I know Candy is Korean :// hmm makes sense..
What I've never really seen brought up for Sock Opera is the fact that it's a mirror of Time Traveller's Pig. In both scenarios, one sibling has extremely unrealistic goals to woo their crush, to the point that they consider letting their other half suffer so they can obtain something (or more specifically someone) that they really have no business with. Hell, Dipper breaks Time Law and gets Blendin arrested because of his jealousy!
I think people get disproportionally mad at Mabel because her goals aren't relevant to the main plot or characters. We excuse Dipper's selfishness and putting the people around him in danger (Summerween Trickster, the Bunker, time travel) because it's WENDY, a consistent and engaging character of her own. But at this point in the series, the plot's stakes are unknown to the kids. Dipper feels compelled to find the author for personal fulfillment, he doesn't know about what's in the basement. There's always been weirdness in Gravity Falls, him finding the answer isn't going to solve an impending problem (to his knowledge). But since the series is tied to unlocking the mysteries these kids are being put through, we feel compelled to side with him and dismiss Mabel. If this series were titled "Mabel's Quest for Summer Romance," then Dipper would be cast as the idiot brother who goes looking for trouble and puts everyone in danger to satisfy his inane curiosity.
TL;DR: They're both kids, and kids are selfish screw ups. That's how they learn.
Love how you should technically know who the owner of that laptop is but hyped to see you find out who the owner is
The devil doesn't appear with horns,tail,and pitchfork he appears as everything you want
Yeah, We learn that Bill had plans for dippers body, he was gonna destroy the Journal, Climb the water tower and throw dippers body off and in bills words “I want everyone to think the kid lost his marbles” and then he wanted to rub dead dipper into mable’s face until she killed herself. Bill genuinely sucks, he’s cruel and evil. Great episode, I like that you can relate the episodes to reality. Great video and it’s still January 3rd. 19/?
Look can everyone stop crapping on Mabel for being selfish?
They both make mistakes in this area. Sure this is a more serious situation but Mabel didn’t know exactly what was going on because Dipper hadn’t been informing her of the seriousness of it.
(And was Mabel just supposed to automatically know? There’s been so many times where Dipper has prioritised Wendy over Mabel, only to realise later. This is Mabel’s episode of doing the same.)
Of course this was more important but really Dipper was getting just as obsessed I mean there was no time limit on the password he didn’t need to figure it out right away, at the same time I totally understand his excitement, but still. I dunno I mean in the time travelers pig Dipper was in the wrong anyway and the pool episode saving mermando was way more important than Dipper keeping his job that he only got to spend time with a girl... kind of familiar hey? Mabel asked if they could do it after the show because she can’t read Dippers mind so she didn’t realise how much danger they were in. Once he clarified she went and risked her life to help him.
They are just siblings who make mistakes and annoy each other and can be selfish and obsessed but at the bottom of it they just love each other and will do anything they can for one another.
We’re biased toward Dipper in this scenario because we too want the mysteries to be solved but we can’t just assume Mabel knows things that Dipper never told her. They are both equally messy and beautiful characters and I don’t get why people drag Mabel through way more crap than Dipper!
I mean I’ve been very fair to both of them throughout my reactions. I agree she gets a lot of unwarranted hate though. But I’ve criticized both of them for their behavior up to this point. Dipper more than Mabel actually
Idk but Mabel was more in the wrong here tho. Isnt Dipper being not in his own body already such a big problem? And they both know how crazy dangerous it is to make a deal with Bill so she should be aware of the severity of the situation when Dipper came to her as a puppet, telling her he was tricked.
While she did try to help, she didnt take it too seriously. She also ALMOST gave the journal to Bill, that even she probably knows she shouldnt. Why she would know? Because she already encountered Bill of course. Giving that journal wouldve sealed Dipper's fate (death of his body and being trapped in the mindscape forever)
Note that im talking about only this episode. Im not saying Mabel is worse. They both are selfish in their own accords. Dipper had his moments too.
@MikeyVenture Yeah totally noticed that. Was more commenting in reference to some other comments.
Wanted to make sure because of other comments you wouldn’t be swayed to going down the dark path of disliking Mabel 😂
It would be very ironic for this episode the password was:
" 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8"
P u p p e t r y
2:01 I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought of that 😂
I love puppets but Gabe is weird and has some problems
I know many people love Mabel but I think she's the worst.
Oh MAN this one of my favourite episodes. Like, far up there. Bipper is terrifying, and the consequences of the deal was so disturbing. Same with the disregard for Dipper's health. Maybe I just like the serious and disturbing episodes too much.
Since you've already reacted to Society of the Blind eye, I can now point out what some other fans pointed out with the fact that, by smashing the laptop, Bill still technically gave them a hint by letting them see the 'McGucket Labs' thing, thus holding up his end of the bargin in a Monkeys Paw fashion, just a cool detail
THIS ONE IS GONNA BE SO FUN
And i was right
What Bill was doing to Dipper's poor body, it gets worse when you find out in some supplimental material (the IRL Journal 3) that Bill was planning to take Dipper's body and swan dive off the water tower after destroying the journal, leaving Dipper dead and stuck in the mindscape
Did you know, if you buy Journal #3, it says that if Dipper didn't get his body back, Bill was gonna throw his body of the water tower? Crazy, right?
Hahah wait till end
The Gabe part of this episode is hard for me to watch. I'm actually *seriously* against the whole random crush thing. I hate the trope where a character sees someone and instantly thinks they're "in love" just because they like their appearance. It bothers me even more when that character is willing to lie and/or change who they are just to impress this person they don't even know, as if it's worth loving someone who doesn't think you're already good enough as you are. I know Mabel is 12, but I was 12 before and I always felt this way. I was never interested in anything less than true love, a deep spiritual bond, something that lasts forever. Actually that's why I hate all teen shows where the characters are getting in random relationships with people just because of their looks, or some other shallow reason like their accent, or because they have a car, or play guitar, etc. It especially bothers me when the character is eager to kiss people, and kisses more than one person throughout the show, even knowing they're just another temporary crush and they'll probably be with someone else next week. I never understood why anybody is like that...
(I'm writting this comentary knowing that he has already watched episodes 11 and 12)
Fun fact:There is a real life version of the journal 3 that actually answers A LOT of questions, like how does the botomless pit work, and in the limited versions of it that have the invisible ink it is revealed that the password was STANFORD
Hi
Great reaction as always!!!! bill is screwed up in so many ways and I'm happy to know how much you hate gabe. can't wait for more!
(also hope you don't mind me saying this but you have pretty eyes)
ah yes the ever deceptive sock opera title haha. another great reaction, it’s really refreshing to see a reaction of someone completely unspoiled! two things i want to mention/tell you:
1. there’s a sort of trivia/behind the scenes special called “between the pines” that’s a good watch later down the line. it was released right before the final episode aired, so you could either react to it before the finale or after you’ve finished the entire series.
2. once you’ve finished the entire series i 100% recommend rewatching it at some point on your own time. it’s amazing to rewatch once you have all the clues put into place. no spoilers for what those answers are but it’s definitely a series you can rewatch and find new things!
again great reaction, bill really is a terrifying villain
Is it bad that I actually love Bill? He’s crazy and dangerous but he’s so fun!
I spent my whole life thinking there's nothing scary about triangles and then along comes Bill!
One of my favorite episodes
In the episode where Bill was introduced last season, he was referred to as a demon (including by the Journal).
Just because someone asks for help, doesn't mean that they are going to get it.
The main issue with this show is that the sentence "You just gotta roll with Mabels craziness, its what makes life worth living" isnt just the opinion of Wendy, its more or less the creators statements to the fans. Mabel does a lot of terrible stuff and is generally an irritating character in a lot of situations. And other than Dipper, Wendy or even Stan, she doesnt learn anything throughout this show.
The ending of this episode feels more like a concession, more like "fine, now Mabel gave something up" coming from the creators rather than any meaningful change. And I can explain what I mean with that when you finished the show.
I would disagree, she learns plenty in the show imo- Alex Hirsch has even said before that is response to a bunch of the critics is that she is a 12 year old girl
@@khanburger3610 you prove my point. Hirsch is busy defending his character.
My favorite way of describing Bill is when I saw this RUclips comment on the video of the show where it was like you feel like while he’s talking to you he’ll either try to tell a really bad joke or eat you lol And that’s totally how I feel about Bill
Also a little fun disturbing fact about this episode in the written journal that they sold after the show ended Bill stated in a note he left on the car floor that Mabel found that he was having so much fun with Dipper‘s body and once he destroyed the journal he was going to toss it off the water tower and asked if Mabel wanted to join him
What a fun concept! I love this show and I hope you have been as well
(it's parra1el btw)
I love reading the comments and seeing people debate about which sibling is more selfish. They both mess up and can be selfish at times but thats why they are great characters (although i do have to say Dipper is my favorite 😂)
Bill cipher fans gonna hate you for saying bill is sucks
Oh no I think he’s fantastic. Great character. But he does shitty things haha
@@MikeyVenture OH, DON'T YOU WORRY YOUR HUMAN MIND YET!
Thx for the reaction
bill is a demôn
YES!
Ok
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I'M IN YOUR PROFILE PICTURE!
As I have said before, to analyze Bill is to make him scarier and may spoil things as some of us have an idea of what he is after. He is a solid, scary villain.
They have done an incredible job developing him in the two episodes he’s appeared in. Fantastic writing
i cant understand how people love mabbel shes so annyoning
Bipper is hot, prove ne wrong
ME*
Yeah this was the episode that made me really start to dislike Mabel.
Mabel is literally 12, she's just a child, it would have been weird if both siblings acted super mature at that age. They are both imperfect people and I don't think that's a good enough reason to dislike Mabel
@@FlyingLine I mean… I feel like even a 12 year old should know their brother having their body possessed by a demon should take priority over… a puppet show.