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Grote Les Paul Copy (Better than a CHIBSON!) - Demo / Review

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2018
  • Want an overseas Les Paul style guitar without the hassle the the Chibson knockoffs? Let's checkout this LP guitar from Grote!
    Guitar Ebay Links Below!
    Link for Grote guitars (Ebay) here: ebay.us/pIBsjI
    I'm using a Blackstar ID Core combo amp in this video. Link Here: amzn.to/3t1rsQ7
    Backing Tracks and Instructional Videos: sellfy.com/maxcarlisle
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    www.guitarmaxmusic.com
    Rubric: -5 points for Danzig references. -5 points for not reading the description. -5 points for not watching far enough into the video to answer your own question. -5 points for misquoting me in your comment. 20 points possible. Everyone starts with an A!

Комментарии • 673

  • @MarkMcCluney
    @MarkMcCluney 6 лет назад +104

    I'm not an electric player but I always look forward to these reviews. It's refreshing to watch an intelligent and measured review that isn't just about buying a 'name'. Great job mate, thanks.

  • @noeffnwaypal
    @noeffnwaypal 5 лет назад +49

    I'd never heard of Grote before this video, so I looked them up on eBay. Found a PRS style that I liked for $200 and took a chance. It said delivery within 6 to 8 weeks, I received it 7 days after buying it! I agree with you on quality 100%. For the price a person will not find better than this. Great finish and nice binding work. The pick ups are good (enough) and the tuning is pretty solid. The frets were rolled nicely, level, and nicely polished. No complaints here. Thanks man!

    • @kaname4251
      @kaname4251 5 лет назад

      Is the tuners great? I mean i cant tell from this video if its good , and do u think that this is better than the wolf les paul style guitar that he reviewed?

    • @kaname4251
      @kaname4251 5 лет назад

      But thats 450$ , im planning to buy a guitar , idk if a squire affinity strat or this grote les paul

    • @noeffnwaypal
      @noeffnwaypal 5 лет назад +3

      @@kaname4251 The tuners are so so. It will stay in tune, but the low E peg isn't smooth at all. Once it is in tune, it stays there, but getting there can be a slight challenge. I plan on upgrading them soon. Can't really comment on the comparison of the two. All I can say is the build quality of mine is really nice for the price. I run a Line 6 Helix LT and I've gotten some good sounds from the pickups.

    • @zsaz4453
      @zsaz4453 2 года назад

      Hmmmm

    • @200130769
      @200130769 Год назад

      ​@@noeffnwaypalhow's it still playing? Still enjoying it?

  • @subeyguy66
    @subeyguy66 6 лет назад +101

    It's hard to tell from your videos how well some guitars play, because you can make a broom handle squeal.

    • @damon2a102
      @damon2a102 5 лет назад +11

      Broomhandle used to make my girlfriend squeal like a little pig. Damn I miss her 😭

    • @kotymccallister5150
      @kotymccallister5150 5 лет назад +3

      @@damon2a102 😂😂😂😂

    • @Sarvlosify
      @Sarvlosify 4 года назад

      Exactly lol

    • @jamesrogers9949
      @jamesrogers9949 Год назад

      @@damon2a102 she doesnt miss your sexual perversion. Shes happy now. I bet your hand doesnt complsin to you! Lol

    • @petestaint8312
      @petestaint8312 Год назад

      😄😄😄 good one

  • @bofuscrapshaw
    @bofuscrapshaw 6 лет назад +49

    We really appreciate what you do on your channel. Thanks very much Max. Cheers

  • @SpottedBullet
    @SpottedBullet 5 лет назад +11

    About 15 years ago I bought a guitar from Rondo Music in the "Gibson Style" called an Agile 2000. I changed the humbuckers to some Seymour Duncans and that's all since it already had Grover tuners. It's quite a heavy guitar but STILL works perfectly even though I beat the hell out of it. I think I payed about $120 for it.

    • @neospawnkiller6586
      @neospawnkiller6586 3 года назад +1

      I used to rock an AL-2000 with the Floyd Rose. My first decent electric guitar and it screamed, replaced the bridge pickup and it screamed even louder.

  • @scottshields3054
    @scottshields3054 5 лет назад +2

    I really love that you showcase that there is great gear at every level and that you can get good results using what you have on hand or what you can afford.

  • @_utsav
    @_utsav 6 лет назад +107

    ❤️ Guitar maxx most underrated RUclipsr

    • @TheBsavage
      @TheBsavage 4 года назад +2

      Who rates Maxx lowly? I like this youtuber a lot and find him to be one of the most trustworthy.

    • @crusheverything4449
      @crusheverything4449 4 года назад +1

      Max. Max. Max. One “x”.

    • @TheBsavage
      @TheBsavage 4 года назад

      @@crusheverything4449 Oops. My bad. I musta picked up on Usv's blunder. So I'll rephrase: "Who rates Max lowly? I like this youtuber, Max, a lot. I find him to be one of the most trustworthy, perhaps THE most trustworthy, of all youtubers posting opinions. AND he looks nothing like Danzig. Max is not only more handsome, he's more reserved, doesn't seem as violence prone, and appears to be an around good guy. A role-model for the youth, especially young musicians. Also, after hearing Max's music, I can defintiely say he is a far better musician than Danzig."

    • @crusheverything4449
      @crusheverything4449 4 года назад +2

      SalvadorMonella - I agree with you, Salvador! Btw, I wasn’t only addressing you by pointing out the correct spelling of Max’s name - there are a lot of people doing it. To me, it’s a matter of respect and I really respect the guy a lot. Cheers, bud!

    • @giosundance5643
      @giosundance5643 4 года назад

      how ? this dude has a lot of followers

  • @hbclub5208
    @hbclub5208 6 лет назад +8

    I'd probably buy this guitar just for hanging in my bedroom, cause of the finish and the overall color which very beautiful

  • @americanwavesaudio1962
    @americanwavesaudio1962 5 лет назад +8

    Nice Carl Sagan T-shirt! Great review, as always.

  • @anabanana4627
    @anabanana4627 6 лет назад +1

    Hello, Guitar Max! There are still people who are very stubborn about recognizing Chinese guitars have surpassed Les Paul, not only about sound ,but also about design! I bought a Chinese copy of the Tommy Thayer´s White Lightning guitar, and I´m happy about it!! I haven't modified my guitar at all!

  • @9imack
    @9imack 6 лет назад +26

    I am Grote. I am Grote. I am Grote..... (yeah, ok. I'll stop now lol). Cool demo as usual man. Your playing style seems quite 'neo-classical' to me, kinda Yngwie-esque. I like how you make less pricey gear sound great.

    • @richardbinder9662
      @richardbinder9662 6 лет назад

      Ian McDaid You beat me to it. Beautiful guitar but that name is Grotesque.

  • @bigblueplanet1968
    @bigblueplanet1968 5 лет назад +2

    I just ordered their 335 copy because of this video! Thanks for another awesome video

  • @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973
    @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973 Месяц назад

    My wife got me a Grote LP for Christmas last year. She knew I'd had a 1972 Gibson Les Paul but I had to sell it because money was tight and it was the most valuable thing I owned. I hated to sell it but that money saved my family's ass so that helped. . I loved the Grote as soon as I played it. Feels and sounds great.

  • @thomasd9237
    @thomasd9237 5 месяцев назад +1

    I picked up one of these for a beater. Overall quality is really good for beginners or a platform guitar. I hated the pickups, so I put a Screamin' Demon in the bridge & a Pearly Gates in the neck ☺️

  • @audiophileman7047
    @audiophileman7047 5 лет назад +2

    Because Grote is not using the Gibson trade marks for a LP, I'd seriously consider buying this guitar. It really does sound nice. Looks like the eBay link is no longer valid. Thanks for a good review, Max!

  • @garyheighway7635
    @garyheighway7635 6 лет назад +14

    I have the exact same guitar but I ordered mine with abalone inlays. I put grover classic tuners and Dragonfire black pearloid P-90 humbuckers in it. But I ordered mine without lettering on the headstock, but I had the biohazard logo in abalone on the headstock.

    • @wadeguidry6675
      @wadeguidry6675 6 лет назад +2

      Gary Heighway: You can custom order the headstock inlay? If so, that's awesome!

    • @cmydudeme356
      @cmydudeme356 6 лет назад

      Yeah where can you customize?

    • @jefferylord3068
      @jefferylord3068 6 лет назад

      no you don’t

    • @garyheighway7635
      @garyheighway7635 6 лет назад

      Big C alot of the sellers on Ali express offer custom options. For the inlays and headstock cost me about $50. I'll hafta go through my list and see which one I used.

  • @nurtenakturk4483
    @nurtenakturk4483 6 лет назад +185

    do 45 cm biceps affect the tuning stability ?

  • @jerbear57
    @jerbear57 6 лет назад +5

    Max you continue to rock it man. You are a really cool dude

  • @nickdonvito4591
    @nickdonvito4591 5 лет назад +2

    That's great Max...I think I just found my next guitar! The sound on the neck pickup really caught my ear!!! I still love my Firefly!

  • @TheRidge27
    @TheRidge27 6 лет назад +1

    The best Les Paul copy I have ever seen was made by Framus of Germany. I bought one in Germany in 1969. Set neck and everything on it was high quality. I don't have it anymore, unfortunately.

  • @BlueberryStinkFinger62
    @BlueberryStinkFinger62 6 лет назад +2

    It doesn't matter anymore were your guitar is made the overseas guitars are professional crafted..I have a JAY TURSER JT50 Custom SG..I would match it with any Gibson Standard SG any day...the Grote looks and sounds Fantastic..

  • @jessecrum8879
    @jessecrum8879 4 года назад

    Coming from a little town in Mississippi. Thanks for all the reviews man. You do a very good job on highlighting every guitar pros, and cons. Your channel seems popular, but needs more spotlight. I will be recommending my musical friends to your channel.

  • @draganm7823
    @draganm7823 6 лет назад +2

    Informative and entertaining. Another home run from Maxx! It's good to know that there are options to similarly priced guitars like Epiphone, Gretsch etc.

  • @garymcaleer6112
    @garymcaleer6112 6 лет назад +2

    Beautiful clean sound, Mr. MAX. As nice as I've ever heard. I purchased a Grote HJZT-01 12 string electric with red mahagony flame maple with ivy inlaid fingerboard. I set it up for six strings for finger picking. Beautifully made and excellent sound. Superior to my Epiphone Prophecy w/Gibson's top pickups, and my Squier strat w/Fender's top pickups.

  • @Guitarrobb1969
    @Guitarrobb1969 3 года назад +1

    Max, great review! It's good to hear some facts and opinions about this brand and this particular model. I've been studying Grote guitars for a little while and debating on purchasing one for myself. This LP style guitar seems to be of really good quality and playability based on your information and demonstration. You may have just convinced me to order one! Thanks, man! 😊👍👍🎸🎶

  • @chrisdigital
    @chrisdigital 4 года назад +1

    I bought the version of this guitar in blue with the open coil pickups, after a fret level crowning and Polish, thing plays amazing and sounds fantastic.

  • @eddieperez9565
    @eddieperez9565 6 лет назад +1

    The best Les Paul copy I've played, a Greco Les Paul Standard. Beautiful guitar

  • @knazmuelhossain2140
    @knazmuelhossain2140 5 лет назад +1

    The blue sunburst version of this guitar is absolutely stunning! This one looks good too, but I'm a sucker for blue.

  • @dougkonersman1274
    @dougkonersman1274 4 года назад

    I purchased a Grote ES 335 semi hollow.
    Im really happy with it. Beautiful construction, pillowtop veneer. Came preset up, great action and the intonation is good. Plastic nut, microphonic pickups, and small pots . But for $346 delivered, it is a good deal. I purchased a Firefly copy of the ES 335 at the same time and got rid of it immediately. Now neither one of these are comparable to my Gibson Les Paul. But for the money, the Grote is a keeper.

  • @ronroberson
    @ronroberson 5 лет назад +2

    Maxx, man, after your demo of the Grote lp style guitar, I had to get one. Dude, I am loving it. I got the purple burst. This thing is sick! Thanks again, and keep rocking!

    • @GuitarMAXMusic
      @GuitarMAXMusic  5 лет назад +1

      Awesome!

    • @NoBody-yy8rk
      @NoBody-yy8rk 2 года назад

      I keep looking at the purple one. Wish they would re-run those gold pickups

  • @ransombaggins9301
    @ransombaggins9301 4 года назад

    The things about virtually ALL discount/budget brands is that you just never know what you're going to get. They save money on hardware, electronics, etc. but even the cheap stuff can still work well. They also save money on quality control, and when you get one that slipped through QC, that's when it gets frustrating.
    That said, this was an awesome review and demo. Thanks!

  • @CRESPOPAGETUBE
    @CRESPOPAGETUBE 4 года назад +1

    while I searched chibson i found this brand but never find a review.
    Thanks for your review is useful.

  • @LazloArcadia
    @LazloArcadia 4 месяца назад

    Awesome review, thank you! Really enjoyed hearing you play it.

  • @matdemaz
    @matdemaz 6 лет назад +4

    My comment vanished for some reason, but anyway. I picked this up a while ago, basically just stripped it and put EMGs in it, sounds fine.
    Great that it ships worldwide, the other guitars you showed on your channel were US only, lol.

    • @selenecastro3000
      @selenecastro3000 5 лет назад +1

      Bro, please can you give me a link ir something to buy it? I'm buying one soon, And, how's the guitar Going? Did u like it?

    • @matdemaz
      @matdemaz 5 лет назад

      @@selenecastro3000 www.ebay.com/itm/Grote-Electric-Guitar-Solid-mahogany-w-Flame-maple-top-in-Black-Chrome-hardware/143171373302?hash=item2155adc8f6:g:dfMAAOSwb9Baqmkl
      www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Burl-maple-top-Grote-Electric-Guitar-Gold-Hardware-Solid-Mahogany/143149285036?hash=item21545cbeac:g:8-0AAOSwA4Va594l

  • @JAZZHOBO
    @JAZZHOBO 6 лет назад +2

    Grote has been in business a long time, they actually also manufacture for the companies, like gretsch, Epiphone, etc. Their guitsra are great maf. they also work to help customer be 100% satifsfyed, 100%.
    These are not Fly-By-Night company. I owned a ES 330 Style cost $200.00 5 years ago.

  • @wiseguy9202
    @wiseguy9202 6 лет назад +2

    I'm sold on the Grote. Although, with the Chibson, I was able to get the dealer to put the word, 'Guitar' on the headstock instead of Gibson.

  • @jackgauthier5624
    @jackgauthier5624 5 лет назад +1

    I got a Grote E335 copy and it is awesome. $160 delivered for $160.

  • @JaFoste_Studio
    @JaFoste_Studio 3 года назад

    Hope Grote brings these back out. I just got their SG model and man, is it impressive!

  • @DaveViner
    @DaveViner 6 лет назад

    Awesome stuff as usual. I think it's great that you review affordable gear. There is a lot of snobbery within the industry at times and it's nice to see a positive outlook towards 'cheaper' gear. Keep it up, dude.

  • @nightdragon1528
    @nightdragon1528 5 лет назад

    Sold my harley benton sc custom yesterday after having it for 6 months. Was my second guitar after 6 or 7 years on a squier starter strat. Despite how much they're praised, I got sent a complete dud. Getting a mitchell hd400 in a few days, played one a few years ago and fell in love with it but never bothered saving for it, now that it's price dropped, I can easily get it. I've also been really wanting a les paul style guitar, for the price, feel, and appearance, I might genuinely go for one of these china clone types.

  • @misterwirez7731
    @misterwirez7731 5 лет назад +1

    Did you ever check out the LP style Oscar Schmidt by Washburn?
    It is Chinese made of course, for around $200-$250. Folks are giving them 4.5-5 stars everywhere. I'm going to buy a gold top for $189. Beautiful guitars like the Chote!

  • @BernieOliver
    @BernieOliver 5 лет назад

    I bought a 3 PU Chender Tele and a Chibson 3PU Black Beauty w/Chigsby both from an Ali Express vendor (now defunct) called Grote Guitars. I also got a Jay Terser Beatle Bass from Grote on eBay. I'm pretty sure they were all the same vendor. The ones from Ali have some of the best fret work I've ever seen, especially the Chender: better than Fender!

  • @davidjorgenpedersen8010
    @davidjorgenpedersen8010 4 года назад

    I think all the Styles I bought have been Discontinued, You were right about that, It's good to have Quality Limited Editions!Happy New Year Max!

  • @Sk8Nature
    @Sk8Nature 6 лет назад +2

    reat video as always Max, i found this guitar on Amazon last month i it looked great and all but i doubted how good they were because there were no reviews for the Grote Les Paul so i never got it, and now this is just what i needed, thanks man,
    Also, i would recommend to also check the Shengze Guitars previously known as BadCat Guitars, they have a similar price range and good finish on their guitars.

  • @danielcastillo1225
    @danielcastillo1225 Год назад

    Nice 🎸, great demo, very intuitive review on info, and as always awesome playing, keep up the good work

  • @volkiruski1221
    @volkiruski1221 6 лет назад +1

    Tip for great guitars: NNG from Thailand, ArtRock from Indonesia, Gilmour from S Korea.

  • @matdube3577
    @matdube3577 6 лет назад

    A. Great sounding pickups on this guitar and the look is astonishing. Would buy one anytime. Keep up the good work Max!

  • @hellbillyaustin6883
    @hellbillyaustin6883 6 лет назад

    Great vid, i brought a les/p copy of ebay just before christmas, just because i liked the look of it!, its a artist( probally chinese!) Has nice binding everywhere, active pickups (not emg) set neck, mahogony body/nect, finished in matt black, i paid around £199, i later got £80 back as it was damaged( chip to paint on the headstock, happened in transit) it sounds and looks great, my friend played it expecting it to be awfull( gibson fan boy!) was shocked at how good it handled and sounded, i think if you do your homework and choose carefully, you can get a good non-brand guitar at a great price. Ive noticed a few guitars made by blackcat on ebay( from china) which look like they have a great finish, but ive not spoken to anyone who has one, i might have to save my pennys and get one!. All the best to ya all.

  • @fernandofigueira2330
    @fernandofigueira2330 6 лет назад

    Hi Max! Nice video, very understandable. I am not fan of RUclips videos, but you do a nice job with this kind of review, speaking clearly and being very respectful with the guitar. I want to try this guitar, I am reading good reviews and I listened now how it sounds, I will give it a try.

  • @wiseguy9202
    @wiseguy9202 5 лет назад +2

    Damn you've sold me on the Grote. Been looking at them with hesitation of course on Ebay.

  • @ThePedroDB
    @ThePedroDB 6 лет назад

    I looked into these last year and was interested in the headless/strandberg-esque Grote guitar. I was told they were stopping making them as they'd had too many quality control issues. It's possible Grote uses multiple factories to produce it's range of guitars. Maybe some are just better than others. Your Les Paul copy is lovely!
    Update: Just checked and they appear to have a 2018 range of neck through headless guitars. Tempting...

  • @davidjorgenpedersen8010
    @davidjorgenpedersen8010 4 года назад +3

    I Broke Down and Bought 5 Grote Guitars, A Good Deal!

  • @Hazardteam
    @Hazardteam 5 лет назад +1

    I like your 'naturaly human like' style (Sorry i don't know the right word for it, i'm hungarian) Subscribed.

  • @MrCarsandguitars
    @MrCarsandguitars 6 лет назад +1

    That's a cool loojing and sounding guitar. Only downside I could see is the resale value of it might not be very good. But, Epiphone and LTD both have guitars in that price range as well.

  • @wiseguy9202
    @wiseguy9202 4 года назад

    I recently purchased a Grote Les Paul Special type and was a bit let down when it came. I was fine with the name 'Grote' on the Gibson style headstock but it's the 'Les Paul' name they didn't remove. Oh well. It actually plays really good out of the box oddly enough. Ended up still giving it a once over set up anyway because the strings were terrible. The P90's it came with on the other hand sound fantastic. Way better than I'd like to admit. Anywho, I'd like to find the history of Grote instruments.

  • @EfrenchinGames
    @EfrenchinGames 6 лет назад +4

    Seem to be better than chibson. Nice review like always Max!! Like!

  • @linkinpark9281
    @linkinpark9281 6 лет назад +1

    Man a Grote/NK headless review would be gr8! I really wanna buy a headless but cant afford the ridiculous tags on the regular brands

  • @jeffbullard545
    @jeffbullard545 5 лет назад

    Thank you. Love your channel! Keep up the great reviews.

  • @danielmcgraw7908
    @danielmcgraw7908 3 года назад +2

    I couldn't find the link, and no evidence of this model on Grote's site either. Suggestions?

  • @wadeguidry6675
    @wadeguidry6675 6 лет назад +1

    This looks like a great beginner/intermediate guitar. Maybe Grote could be the next Ibanez and become China's quality guitar company that offers a variety of different quality instruments from entry level to high quality professional grade guitars. Eventually some Chinese company will.

  • @namenotfound34
    @namenotfound34 6 лет назад +1

    Could absolutely not care any less what a headstock reads or looks like, this guitar is beautiful and sounds awesome, definitely something I'd strongly consider buying if it ships to my parts of the world
    Edit- only problem I see I don't dig the finishes, I'm not a quilt guy I'm not a burst guy either I like something subtle, just black or black custom is what I dig with that said I did find one I really dig fuck hm maybe buying a guitar

    • @igdedzillaigdedzilla3324
      @igdedzillaigdedzilla3324 6 лет назад

      Name not Found same struggle here. Don't really need one but this is a good deal

  • @oneminutefixed5003
    @oneminutefixed5003 6 лет назад +254

    Am I the only one that finds the name "Chibson" hilarious?

    • @hockey14822
      @hockey14822 6 лет назад +11

      Yeah it sounds like a brand of cat food.

    • @joebodynobody764
      @joebodynobody764 6 лет назад

      You are not alone, my friend.

    • @uta_kun1538
      @uta_kun1538 6 лет назад +11

      Cheapson.

    • @studlydoright111
      @studlydoright111 6 лет назад +8

      OneMinuteFixed I can't stop saying it! Lol That's what I'll name my next child...CHIBSON! LOL

    • @rkgaustin9043
      @rkgaustin9043 6 лет назад +3

      Yeah baby. Put your Aeolian on my Chibson.

  • @RavenMadd9
    @RavenMadd9 6 лет назад +1

    Maxx...I am getting gas from this review.. sounds awesome.....great review as usual ....got over 20 guitars and assorted ....need to make room...thinking about this one

  • @randomworld75
    @randomworld75 6 лет назад +2

    I'm loving your "Carl Sagan" shirt.."billions and billions and billions of stars......"

  • @criminals2390
    @criminals2390 5 лет назад +1

    No matter how good the guitar or picks are! Don't forget about the amp and equalization.

  • @CreamFreshCream
    @CreamFreshCream 6 лет назад +4

    I love that Carl Sagan T-shirt you're rocking!

  • @ziggylayneable
    @ziggylayneable 4 года назад

    by the way I wanted to let you know that you're doing a really good job at building the channel exactly like you had plans for the New year.I have noticed new subscribers and new people in the comments section that never used to be there before because I've been here for a very long time.and I subscribed to you the first day I ever watched you so I'm not one of those "casual observers"I am serious about your channel and I watch every single video you uploaded as soon as I get the notification (and I have never missed a notification so you don't have to worry about being shadowbanned or anything like that)

  • @geoffreyallen888
    @geoffreyallen888 5 лет назад

    20 points! Very funny!
    Nice video, very impressive playing, thanks much for the link to the back track. You don't seem to like treble that much nor the mid sound of two p/ups (I know some people hate that), I use all that stuff a lot, roll off the treble with the pots, put it back to get "savage", roll off volume for clean rythym - valve (tube) amp user. I'd be curious to see it put through that. What could one expect for small money though? Commendably short and modest video, I'd like to have seen inside the back cavities (not that hard?) to see the wiring - I think we can assume that it won't look quite like the way Gibson do it but if you've seen some Chibson (and you have) you'll understand.
    Well, you don't mention customer service but....it's China, we know it's a bit of a crapshoot. A comments chap says Grote are legit, similar deal to Pierce. Nice!
    My better 2014 Chibson - the neck has moved fractionally twice in three years and a bit of truss adjustment......it's OK, works, handsome, plays and sounds good, scruffy frets at the top end and a drop of Superglue to stop the top E getting snagged in a bad end but no biggie (noo p/ups, pots, bridge and nut) - my three Gibson electrics are perfectly stable over much longer. The worse of the two Chibsons, I'm going to take the blues train with it and get off without it one stop down the line - disappoint some fool somewhere, it's positively vile even to touch it and I'm ashamed.
    Super, super handsome guitar, great buy. Great playing too - not at all my style but the very best of luck with that, nice video. I've too many guitars but I'll stash the Grote name just in case.....thank you. How many points did I get?
    The ethics - "I don't know but I've been told......"
    It's blindingly obvious that if some brainbox in an office in China would only say "Let's use our cost advantages, put decent electrics and P/ups in these things", they would make very serious inroads into Gibson - pros would buy them which currently they generally don't. There's no sign of that happening and that should be telling us something - it's controlled in the same way and for the same reasons as Epi. That's to say, Gibson have a finger in this pie. All the tell-tales of "Gibson or Chibson?" are exactly the same as "Gibson or Epi?" except the Epi headstock and logo and if Chibsons had those, they'd be absolutely identical except for quality control. Chibsons are somewhat f*cked up Epis without customer service, no warranty, no quality control, no retail distribution and bowl-of-rice-a-day wages, an almost cost-free business model and GIBSON DON'T KNOW THIS? Please!!!! Gibson are offering at the lower end the Epis.....but also that NAME which Epis can't ever have, without compromising the "All American" Gibson schtick and without competing with it either. This all began (Lo and behold!) when Gibson began to try to put it's brand on lifestyle stuff like motorbikes and kitchen ware under a CEO that didn't know one end of a guitar from another - strictly a marketing geek.
    So no problems with the feds - if they are Epis (and they are unquestionably) they are Gibsons and can be made and bought and sold. The only fraud is when a scumbag tries selling it as a genuine USA model on Ebay etc and why should Gibson care about that? That's our problem only. They are genuine Gibsons - sweatbox Gibsons for those whose girlfriends will never know the difference, for guys who know two chords and how to download a drum track and amp sound to Audacity and "Hey Presto" - AC/DC! Mostly they just lie around the house (no need to keep it in a hard case, is there?) shouting "Gibson! and "America!" - brand recognition of the most famous name for guitars in the world and if they're a bit shit.....well, they have to be false-flag fakes.....it's not Gibson's fault. In use, most punters at the local hop don't know the difference and so many guitarists play so badly that it doesn't matter anyway. Ethically, it's OK as long as you don't try to sell them as real USA jobs.
    I'm Brit so getting "done" by U.S. law doesn't apply to me. Were I "done" for buying them I'd certainly contest it. It's not those dirty, stinking, sneaking , conniving and underhand Chinese at all. It's downright and flat impossible that Gibson have no hand in it and no control of this - however it's laundered they are Epis.

  • @keithlyons5024
    @keithlyons5024 5 лет назад +1

    Based on this review I purchased one of these Grote LP's in the same quilt black top, and I am more than pleased! Fret work is excellent, fit and finish is nearly flawless (99.9%). Weighing in at 8lbs. the guitar is really resonant unplugged. Given that the weak link with imported guitars like this is the electronics, I was surprised at good it sounds plugged in. I still plan to replace the pots, toggle switch, input jack, and pickups along with adding a couple of good NOS Vitamin Q paper in oil caps. But, for the $300.00 I paid for this guitar I'll still be getting away cheap for what I'll end up with!

  • @stevejohn1843
    @stevejohn1843 6 лет назад +4

    max, personally, i would buy the grote copy. everything seems right.. i looked at their site, an yes, i would buy a guitar.. no need for chibson, or chender copies, especially with the made in usa stamp.. that is wrong..

  • @harryaldridge8800
    @harryaldridge8800 6 лет назад +8

    Man this guy deserves 1m subs at the least

  • @trickedouttech321
    @trickedouttech321 4 года назад

    A Grote is a Chibson. Grote is mostly under 300.00 the only use the Gibson name when you ask for 98% of the time.
    When they are listed with the Gibson name it is because an order was canceled or a similar reason.

  • @karjafru9389
    @karjafru9389 6 лет назад +5

    Is it a better guitar than Harley Benton SC-550?

  • @bearj.4363
    @bearj.4363 6 лет назад

    Great review as always! Gonna pick one up for my niece for sure

  • @adrikmd
    @adrikmd 5 лет назад

    Grote also give what they call the "OEM service" . Kinda like a "happy ending" in a massage parlor. Great video by the way! I'm following your videos for a moment. I'm interested to buy a Chinese LP. Your videos helped me to make my choice. Thanks

  • @TheRealCaptainFreedom
    @TheRealCaptainFreedom 6 лет назад +1

    I just bought a brand-new Epiphone ES-335 pro. Made in China. Fret buzz. So even Gibson has horned in on the Chibson industry.

  • @dannywilliams3516
    @dannywilliams3516 2 года назад

    Beautiful guitar Max. I wish I would have known about that one a few years back. I don't think Grote has that particular model any more. But hey I could be wrong when I get through here I'm going to go check online. LOL. Thanks for this video max. I love your videos on these lower-end guitars. Nice to know the poor guys like me can have a a decent-looking guitar for around $200

  • @bfiume
    @bfiume 3 года назад +1

    I checked out the Groat LP in Ebay and got, We looked everywhere.
    Looks like this page is missing.

  • @KeithMDuncan
    @KeithMDuncan 5 лет назад +1

    Love the Carl Sagan shirt! Great video!

  • @michaelgalvez5870
    @michaelgalvez5870 5 лет назад

    very cool review.. and your playing is smooth and awesome... thank you for the vid

  • @guitarded5198
    @guitarded5198 5 лет назад

    Love all the LP style budget guitar reviews maxx. The wolf and the grote look awesome!! Maybe you could review a Greco?

  • @bmxriderforlife1234
    @bmxriderforlife1234 6 лет назад

    bad catz/shengze might be worth a look at as well, they also do tele's strats and i think they had a strandberg clone for awhile too.

  • @vigilantdr.dolittle
    @vigilantdr.dolittle 6 лет назад +1

    Just change the pickups and you have a really nice guitar.

  • @johna5087
    @johna5087 6 лет назад +1

    What a great sounding and looking guitar!! Maybe there wouldnt be a market for these guitars if Gibson had there act together...

  • @azwildcats69
    @azwildcats69 5 лет назад +2

    Grote IS a chibson without the Gibson logo. Makes it legal to buy and sell. Exactly the same. From the same factory.

    • @Bridging_the_Political_Divide
      @Bridging_the_Political_Divide 5 лет назад

      These all come from a small city called Guangdong.....ironically the same city as the 2 Gibson plants. Bet you anything these are made in the same 2 factories. Too much of a coincidence.

    • @theobserver8881
      @theobserver8881 5 лет назад

      Christopher McBurney so many things wrong in your statement, it is Shandong, not Guangdong and it is not a small city but a province bigger that LA.

  • @ziggylayneable
    @ziggylayneable 4 года назад

    in my opinion it doesn't matter if you use a Gibson,fender,Paul Reed Smith,kiesel or Ibane.,..any type of logo on the headstock of the guitar whether it's fake or not.... As long as you never plan on selling it it doesn't matter what the headstock says.if it's your personal guitar you're keeping for yourself it really doesn't matter what it says on it. That's just my personal opinion.

  • @Vidfavne
    @Vidfavne 6 лет назад

    I bet a bag of moneys that these are made in the same factory that makes Bad Cat / Chengze guitars. Body, binding, knobs are just like my Bad Cat - and the headstock shape is identical. Only difference is the veneer and the logo. (very happy with my Bad Cat, except for the original tuners and pickups)

  • @Vanadeo
    @Vanadeo 6 лет назад +1

    I'd buy one of them in a heartbeat... Dude you should grab hold of one of them Kramer Beretta Specials, Im waiting on mine, so affordable. Really looking forwards to see if it holds up to all the good written reviews it has.. Providing that the neck isn't snapped upon delivery.

    • @GuitarMAXMusic
      @GuitarMAXMusic  6 лет назад

      I had one and it was great. The vintage style trem just didn't do anything for me. I'd prefer either a floyd or just a hardtail. But the neck was fantastic on that guitar.

  • @bakezori
    @bakezori 5 лет назад

    Have you ever done any head to head comparisons? I think it would be interesting to see this guitar compared to an Epiphone Les Paul. Talk about neck finish, shape, etc, and play the same licks on both. It’s really fun to see your reviews of these instruments. Keep it up.

  • @0000song0000
    @0000song0000 3 года назад +1

    Guess Gib son found out and now Grote doesnt offer them in their page, only BCRich style LP look alikes called LP001 and LP002

  • @NestoBTG
    @NestoBTG 6 лет назад +14

    You have such a knack for finding cheap quality guitars, you think you could find a cheap flying V for under 200?

    • @horsefighter_69
      @horsefighter_69 6 лет назад

      TriggerStrifey Check out AliExpress, search for "Flying V Guitar" or "Electric Guitar", you can find a Flying V for less than $200

    • @Iam_Dunn
      @Iam_Dunn 6 лет назад +3

      ....Yes same as above, but be careful who you buy from. Make sure you can contact the seller and have it bought as ‘unbranded’ or you run the chance of customs seizing it and sending you a nice letter informing you that they destroyed it... :)

    • @horsefighter_69
      @horsefighter_69 6 лет назад +2

      True, you should always keep in mind that if it has a Gibson logo, it can get confiscated, but with AliExpress you can simply ask for a refund, since you never recieved the package

    • @vorpalblades
      @vorpalblades 6 лет назад +3

      Harley Benton has cheap, awesome V's.

    • @wadeguidry6675
      @wadeguidry6675 6 лет назад +5

      If you shop around, you could find a nice used Korean flying V for around 200 bux. Cort made some really nice set neck copies back in the 80s. Korean quality is a little under Japanese ( Japan's guitar quality since the late 1970s in most cases is equal to or better than USA), but much higher than Chinese quality.

  • @swedish_vikings
    @swedish_vikings 5 лет назад

    Love the vids Max, keep it up.

  • @metalmick
    @metalmick 6 лет назад +2

    Love the Carl Sagen t shirt

  • @jesusconcristo
    @jesusconcristo 5 лет назад

    It looks awesome.
    Great video as always.
    Greetings from switzerland

  • @brianobrian9334
    @brianobrian9334 8 месяцев назад

    These have coil splitting and stainless steel ball end frets now

  • @chiclone-tests71
    @chiclone-tests71 6 лет назад +1

    Your played songs are always totally awesome...

  • @Arcturian1111
    @Arcturian1111 6 лет назад

    Just by an Epiphone. A Decently Made, And Factory Supervised guitar from China. I have a 2002 Les Paul Made In Korea, its sick.

  • @prod.808sorcerer
    @prod.808sorcerer 6 лет назад

    Your videos are awesome man you deserve more subs!

  • @ZeroGravityLife
    @ZeroGravityLife 4 года назад +2

    I just bought one based off your review, should have it in 2 or 3 weeks. Got it new for $94, shipping from China. I'll disinfect it from corona during the unboxing LOL

    • @draper102994
      @draper102994 4 года назад

      Where did you find these guitars?

    • @arth926
      @arth926 4 года назад

      Where did you find these price? $94????

    • @adrianj3198
      @adrianj3198 4 года назад

      So man hows the guitar? Looking into getting one

  • @freddycookjr.2164
    @freddycookjr.2164 6 лет назад +1

    JUST A NOTE I DO LIKE YOUR CHANNEL KEEP EM COMING