My mx bike has oil in the fork suspension and a big spring just in one on the pipes.Wondering if these could use oil too.There is also a piston with a small hole that pushes through the oil slowly.
Yor mx bike fork is made to a certain precision so it can use oil seals and this suspension is nothing like that. I have just installed the monorim v2 with dual chamber air shock absorber and it is night and day compared to this piece of.... Video will follow soon.
I wonder if you could fit the coil over shock absorber with oil damping from something like a 7th or 5th scale RC car in the centre of each fork spring - they have at least 25 -35mm or more suspension travel- If you're lucky the extra spring and tension adjustment might stop it from bottoming out when you step onboard too, and you can get some pretty stiff replacement springs for the RC car shocks also. All the best.
Thx for testing again! So the effect is very poor. I'd say that the fact that you had no problems with the folding and never needed to fix that shows that you are better driver with your own setting without this stuff. Great videos btw
That's what I thought, Then I thought that you might just be able to just put the oil damped coil over suspension from the back of a biggish 5th scale RC car in each spring on the scooter forks, you'd have to somehow be able to bolt it to the top and bottom fork parts Through the rubber parts which would be a bit of a pain but it's do-able, You'd end up with a bit of adjustment for the spring rate and they still have about the same 30-35ish mm of suspension travel and the parts would probably still work out to be a lot cheaper than the Monorim or Konyk parts... I'm thinking if trying it myself now.. lol - All the best.
Common practice is to "cut' coils off of Fork springs to increase their Spring Rate (stiffen them) Try it ?? Then one needs to add in a bit of PVC pipe to both compensate for the shortened spring and even to add a bit of uncompressed height (sag height) to accomodate heavier riders .. Adding in a bit of Fork oil wouldn't hurt either (even tho there is NO hydraulic damping) it will lube up their reaction time.. some.
I am not sure if I will spend any more of my time on this fork. But thanks for advice, I was not aware of this practice. One surprize - everything was greased inside at least :)
Yep. It's amazing what you can do with a little effort. I have some fox 34 forks here worth around 1100, a rockshox sector 120mm worth $450 and some suntour xcr forks worth $120 from cycling deal. With a set of foam rings from a raidon and some 15wt oil in place of the grease, these XCR forks perform FAR better than the factory spec and not far off the sector when it comes to general xc riding. Amazingly these have rebound adjust, a sealed damper and a lockout. They happily fit a plastic spacer under the preload knob without binding, so they now accomadate a 95kg rider. Another useful trick for forks that have bad or no damping is to find an elastomer that fits inside the spring. The problem with undamped forks is the rebound. If the spring is too strong it doesn't sag and rebounds too quick, and if the spring is to soft it runs to much sag and bottoms out/packs down. Most manufacturers default undamped forks to a stiffer spring as they'd rather topout and slightly rougher ride than mechanical damage and packing down under repeated bumps. Elastomers are a great way of running a softer spring in an undamped fork without jacking up the rebound to intolerable levels, while also preventing harsh bottoming out. Definately try it.
These are just my thoughts on the subject, being only front suspension it’s very similar to a hard tail mountain bike. With those you have to be more towards the front of the bike to make it work more efficiently. The next thing to consider is suspension forks take a few weeks to bed in and become more supple. It would be nice if they are user serviceable. Edit I’ve just seen the strip down and they are shite! Coil springs alone doesn’t make a good suspension system. Maybe stuffing mountain bike elastomers in between the coils might help
the 1st choice suspension is better than monorim one...its very rare ti find it ans it costs about 90 dollars vs 35 dollars for yours you surelly bought the 2nd choice with less quality soldering
i have an ebike with 14 inch tire and front suspension i get headache in bumpy roads, then upgrade seatpost with suspension seat post, and everything went smooth
A shock absorber consists of a spring and a dampener. It is meant to turn the kinetic energy of a bump into heat. Having just springs is like having leaked shocks in your car. It just bounces around with negative effect on ride quality. I wonder if there actually are shocks of this size so you could fix it.
Yes there is, in my previous vid comments there was a link populated where a guy built front and rear suspension with serious dampers. I think it is not worth to install a 1000eur suspension on 300 eur scooter though :) But you are right - these springs and extra weight makes it feel worse than stock...
Creo que con este veredicto dejas más que claro que en la delantera no queda de otra que usar monorim + Tizona o Xlock de monorim y listo! adiós holguras, bienvenida la suavidad y el confort :V caramba... quién se animará a ponerle un sistema de sonido al M365 xD!
I would really like to try this setup with a solid 10 inch rear tire and stock 8.5 front pneumatic tire. I also have the front trolley wheels that can make my m365 stand vertical that's why I want the fork instead of monorim (and because Monorim is pricy too). That said, I have the ff. concerns same to what you've mentioned as well. 1. Will I still be able to fold and lock my scooter , and 2. Will the deck stand (included with the fork suspension) work or is it long enough if I'll have 10 inch rear tire.
This with import taxes and VAT turned out like 20 eur cheaper than monorim... Maybe you can try and play with some springs etc... but overall it is not a great product
i think my china replica of the other variant is better because i can adjust how firm the spring is. if you remove the mudguard + bracket in the other variant, you have a lot of suspension travel. I think I'll buy the new suspension for the rear, and see how it is ^^
@@VRMinde Sure, its this one. aliexpress.com/item/1005001446336241.html you can find a lot of it if this dealer doesn't suit you, it's all the same suspensions. The assembly was a bit nerve-wracking, but everything went well and nothing came loose after half a year, nothing is broken either. Feels a bit getting used to at first because you are standing a little higher, but with solid rubber tires a curve over 10 kmh no longer resembles a suicide attempt
great video and demonstration - i wanted to get this front shocks for my 1S too but having doubts.. I wanted to ask if the "L" shaped front shocks I see on Aliexpress is worth it? (looks like an L shaped fork similar to Xiaomi 4 Ultra but with springs), do you think it is stable/safe? thanks for any feedback
Question, did you install this 10 "tire. On a 8.5" frame. I still don't understand your opinion that this shock absorber sucks. The video clearly shows that he is doing that and that he has a suspension. Simply compared to the factory rigid connection in the front wheel, this is like a pillow. Bearing in mind that this scooter is not intended for extreme rides, jumping, this shock absorber certainly does its job. After all, try to make these jumps as at the end of the shot, but without this shock absorber (with the factory setting), then you will surely know what the difference is.
Hi man, thanks for the comment. Yes 10” tire on the same rim. I am riding many different scooters daily (I do not commute in a car, i ride bikes/scooters to work) and in different conditions and I have done all sorts of jumps in all sorts of conditions. This suspension adds unnecessary weight and for me it does not add any benefit. Just more noise, more risk of failure (look at those welding seams! 😳) for more money. It bottoms out at 0.5cm bump and there is no dampening, just a bit of uncontrolled bouncing. It is ok to disagree with me, I am just sharing my opinion and thoughts, at the end it is your money and your choice if you get one or not :)
Well, I think it might help a bit. Won’t be much help. If you get them too tall/stiff you will be bouncimg around :) I would realy appreciate if you let ne know how the suspension works for you and if you found any improvement for it
I am not sure man. It will be more than 100EUR after customs procedures. And I do not believe it will be great... So I am not sure yet should I spend my money or not
@@VRMinde I was interested in the suspension kit too, but there arent many good reviews that actualy show it... alternatively i might want to safe up some money for a monorim v2 suspension but its also like 70-80€s
3 years later but funnily enough - my springs are so stiff, there is basically no suspension because the entire thing is just completely rigid. I will have to open it up to install lighter springs 😂
Did you solve the stiffness? Do you have the measurments (thickness, length, diameter) or replacement springs details? I just bought mine and it doesn even move under 80kg jumping.
@@VRMinde do u need to change the muds ? Pls share a video for muds and 10 inch tires ? I wanna buy 10 inches but i dont know how to make it fit with muds:(
I am 90kg, but my son is less than 50 and it still does not work. Someone weighing 70 also commented the same - it does not work. Overall, normal suspension consists of cushioning mechanism like these springs (preferably one that works in progressive way) and the dampener (think hydraulic or pneumatic shock absorber). This fork is not suspension. It is a fork with a spring. It is total crap 😂
@@JingleIntong it does not work because it does nothing. Just adds weight. Your wheel is still jumping around, no better grip and no comfort as you bottom it out anyways...
@@tonys9923 take a look again at the slow motion images on cobblestone - it does nothing. 10” tires have more effect than this suspension. And if you saw the other video where I still had the 8.5” at the back it was even worse!
That's pretty bad. I have a ebay monorim v2 suspension knock off and it works, but it's not ideal. Luckily it's easy to upgrade the suspension unit to an adjustable air shock absorber what's normally used on performance mountain bikes. 👍
Just be sure to check the wheel bolts on that knock-off. We have one guy where a bit loose bolt resulted in a wrapped suspension, luckily on a slow speed :)
R: Hola, yo no tengo hermanientas para poder cortar el tubo, me pasa lo mismo el tornillo central de la horquilla no enrosca..nose que hacer porque sin esto se puede doblar.. alguna otra solución ? lo agradecería mucho!!
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@@zeffbenitzki7315 have no idea man. There are also green and brown ones that are stiffer than the blue ones. Please let me know if you try them out. Thanks man!
haha you are correct man, I do not actually need the suspension, I just saw this and wanted to give it a try. I am now trying to get the KONYK for the back, and probably will consider the monorim v2 for the front
@@VRMinde I think that only for people upto 70kg so isn’t goi g to be very strong! I have the Monorim with adjustable shock, and will get the Monorim rear with adjustable shock to match ride.
Do you think is better yours or this one? The most famous monorim: ruclips.net/video/7duO-D_vrsE/видео.html My only doubt in yours is the contact point between wheel hub and fork. I mean, the welding is strong enough?
I have the Monorim V2 at home already, just need to install, test and film the vid. I expect I will be able to reply in about 2 weeks, mate :) The benefit of the Monorim is that you can install the dual chamber air shock and have something that works like real suspension and not only a metal spring. Another benefit of it is, I believe, longer travel range. And I hope also for better build quality. The welding should be strong enough.. But how can you tell? :)
Oh, if I am not mistaken - "M365 Custom Parts" are planning to release front disk brake option for the Monorim suspension. Now that would be a serious improvement!
Caution: You have to be careful if the scooter is longer due to the suspensions(monorim) - the forces act differently on the frame. I have to buy a welding machine now... i.postimg.cc/28dqzBTM/10605081111.jpg i.postimg.cc/xdpJwDgd/1060511.jpg Great "Made in Germany" m365 iam 95 Kilo's and i dont drove offroad.
@@VRMinde how it happened? I jumped of 2 stairs. Joke. I don't know - I didn't jump with it or anything I saw it when I changed the broken controller at noon today. But it is actually clear that the long wheelbase means that the forces are concentrated at certain points. maybe it wont happend if they had used more material at welding, but that had cost 20 cent more per scooter and at the 20-25 kmh for which the scooter is designed, that would be enough but we changed the statics. Apart from the fact that it was designed for small, light Chinese poeple :D i.postimg.cc/c4SMp2N7/asdfff.jpg
I discovered I have an inheritable skin disease and it loves being under the hair, and goes away after a clean shave :) So no more beard for me, I guess :)
look what happened to me, my luck: that I was only 3 kmh fast. imagine this happens at 30 km/h never buy cheap china shit. i.postimg.cc/Y21q2Gx2/1060450.jpg now i ordered an original MONORIM V3 with a REAL damper, not tthese crap spring things. www.kroxne.com check them out, there you can get m365 parts but shipped from spain, not china. samr pirces as in china. i ordered stuff there, we will see how long they need. i think i will buy the original monorim for rear, i have a new suspension but iam prtty sure the same thing will happen at the rear.
@@VRMinde I can describe it (the adjustable shock version with 8,5 inch tires): The good: -It works well, eats up biger bumps nicely, a lot less brutal -The travel is good, a lot more than on the susspension from this video -The swing arms are coupled with dual bearings, so 4 per arm, 16 in total -Its built really well with okay tolerances -The deck stays straight The bad: -Driving dinamics change a lot, the scooter turns a bit more lazy and is a bit more floaty (which is fine once you get used to it, its like driving a car with 250k km) -As good as this susspension is its still not as solid as the stock fork - it has a bit of play in the bearings-which makes the above changes. -Aligning the handle bars is a lot harder without the set screw - even with good alignment the scooter will pull a bit to one side or another. This is partly due to the alignment and partly due to the first point. -Shock absorbtion is average at best because of the cheap spring shock included. I can see that its constructed great, and has the capability to iron out smaller bumps with a proper air shock. The construction helps with this since the wheel doesn't just move upwards when hitting a bump but also moves it backward a bit (because of the swing arm), distributing forces over a longer period of time. hope this helps. PS saw the picture of the cracked frame and i dont think this is because of the wheelbase, but it might be becuse the force of the front is placed ABOVE the bearings, and so the "lever" beeing longer so with the same force, higher torque is distributed throughout the frame. Properly adjusted bearings however should make this less of a problem. The scooter frame also doesn't seem genuine. Havent seen a number engraved there on any of the scooters i've owned, fixed.
My rear suspension arrived me today.. its like heaven to drive, you will love it! bumps are fun now :-D and its more stable because my scooter is longer now. My suspension was delivered with a usb cable. lol i.postimg.cc/W1whXWjG/1060442.jpg But I had to make some adjustments, the German m365 a lot is different.
And there is a lot more space for the feet where you would normally stand on the mudguard. you can feel that the steering mechanism gets less force when braking because you can stand further back. But now I wish I would have bought the more expensive, more stable version like yours ^^
Good job on the disassembly. Thanks for the honest reviews
You are welcome mate, thanks for the support!
I had to replay the slow motion bits cause I was so busy watching the charger port cover flap around 😅😅😅
Hahah mate, you should probably do some mindfulness course or something like that to increase your focus 😂😂
@@VRMinde lulz yea my therapist has been trying to work on my ADHD forever 😂😂🍻
Thanks for your efforts, appreciate your video 👍👍👍
Hey mate thanks for the comment! :)
I have this suspension it's really good with the back installed to no good on its own but totally different with rear too bro
That makes sense as the load distribution is more equal.
What rear do you use with it?
thanks for the vid. I almost bought one but will just keep mine stock.
it is not worth buying mate :)
@@VRMinde I found another front suspension that states "upgraded" version of this. I will test that one out.
@@skytalon74 send me a link please
good job.. very informative.. I really was hoping that you check that suspension..
Thanks man!
@@VRMinde I'll be installing the monorim copy I hope I can make a video as good as you did..
My mx bike has oil in the fork suspension and a big spring just in one on the pipes.Wondering if these could use oil too.There is also a piston with a small hole that pushes through the oil slowly.
Yor mx bike fork is made to a certain precision so it can use oil seals and this suspension is nothing like that. I have just installed the monorim v2 with dual chamber air shock absorber and it is night and day compared to this piece of.... Video will follow soon.
I wonder if you could fit the coil over shock absorber with oil damping from something like a 7th or 5th scale RC car in the centre of each fork spring - they have at least 25 -35mm or more suspension travel- If you're lucky the extra spring and tension adjustment might stop it from bottoming out when you step onboard too, and you can get some pretty stiff replacement springs for the RC car shocks also. All the best.
Sounds like it is better to buy a suspension that works :) But thumbs up for the creativity! :)
Thx for testing again! So the effect is very poor. I'd say that the fact that you had no problems with the folding and never needed to fix that shows that you are better driver with your own setting without this stuff. Great videos btw
Thank you mate, yes, the suspension should work both ways, not only bounve on a pair of springs :) it is a very poor system indeed :)
Good job! Congratulations.
Thanks bro! 🙌
@@VRMinde Your welcome bro 🙋♂️
so it just a spring inside of it, I though that is Oil shock, almost bought it, good to see your video first before I place the order. thanks.
Yup it is just a spring :)
@@VRMinde thanks for the info
That's what I thought, Then I thought that you might just be able to just put the oil damped coil over suspension from the back of a biggish 5th scale RC car in each spring on the scooter forks, you'd have to somehow be able to bolt it to the top and bottom fork parts Through the rubber parts which would be a bit of a pain but it's do-able, You'd end up with a bit of adjustment for the spring rate and they still have about the same 30-35ish mm of suspension travel and the parts would probably still work out to be a lot cheaper than the Monorim or Konyk parts... I'm thinking if trying it myself now.. lol - All the best.
Common practice is to "cut' coils off of Fork springs to increase their Spring Rate (stiffen them) Try it ??
Then one needs to add in a bit of PVC pipe to both compensate for the shortened spring and even to add a bit of uncompressed height (sag height) to accomodate heavier riders ..
Adding in a bit of Fork oil wouldn't hurt either (even tho there is NO hydraulic damping) it will lube up their reaction time.. some.
I am not sure if I will spend any more of my time on this fork. But thanks for advice, I was not aware of this practice.
One surprize - everything was greased inside at least :)
Yep. It's amazing what you can do with a little effort. I have some fox 34 forks here worth around 1100, a rockshox sector 120mm worth $450 and some suntour xcr forks worth $120 from cycling deal. With a set of foam rings from a raidon and some 15wt oil in place of the grease, these XCR forks perform FAR better than the factory spec and not far off the sector when it comes to general xc riding. Amazingly these have rebound adjust, a sealed damper and a lockout. They happily fit a plastic spacer under the preload knob without binding, so they now accomadate a 95kg rider.
Another useful trick for forks that have bad or no damping is to find an elastomer that fits inside the spring. The problem with undamped forks is the rebound. If the spring is too strong it doesn't sag and rebounds too quick, and if the spring is to soft it runs to much sag and bottoms out/packs down. Most manufacturers default undamped forks to a stiffer spring as they'd rather topout and slightly rougher ride than mechanical damage and packing down under repeated bumps. Elastomers are a great way of running a softer spring in an undamped fork without jacking up the rebound to intolerable levels, while also preventing harsh bottoming out.
Definately try it.
Muy buen video instructivo, ¡lo que me ayudó mucho! ¡Gracias!😘😘
Works best with airless hard tires
These are just my thoughts on the subject, being only front suspension it’s very similar to a hard tail mountain bike. With those you have to be more towards the front of the bike to make it work more efficiently. The next thing to consider is suspension forks take a few weeks to bed in and become more supple. It would be nice if they are user serviceable.
Edit I’ve just seen the strip down and they are shite! Coil springs alone doesn’t make a good suspension system. Maybe stuffing mountain bike elastomers in between the coils might help
After a while I think this is just a crap product… not worth it :)
Hey there again.. good to see your video again. I did get a reply from SR-Suntour.. :( They are busy with bike stuff for now.
Hey! Yeah I believe they are, especially in 2020 when everyone ready sold everything they had that was bike related :)
Changing the damper (spacer) makes it stiffer.or use solid spacer.
The problem is that when I step on the scooter, I assume I am already standing on that damper. The spring is way too soft...
Of course, that is the purpose of these recordings, to exchange opinions and impressions.
Thanks anyway.
You are mostly welcome man! 🙌
the 1st choice suspension is better than monorim one...its very rare ti find it ans it costs about 90 dollars vs 35 dollars for yours you surelly bought the 2nd choice with less quality soldering
we can agree to disagree :)
i have an ebike with 14 inch tire and front suspension i get headache in bumpy roads, then upgrade seatpost with suspension seat post, and everything went smooth
That's a solution :)
A shock absorber consists of a spring and a dampener. It is meant to turn the kinetic energy of a bump into heat. Having just springs is like having leaked shocks in your car. It just bounces around with negative effect on ride quality. I wonder if there actually are shocks of this size so you could fix it.
Yes there is, in my previous vid comments there was a link populated where a guy built front and rear suspension with serious dampers. I think it is not worth to install a 1000eur suspension on 300 eur scooter though :)
But you are right - these springs and extra weight makes it feel worse than stock...
Creo que con este veredicto dejas más que claro que en la delantera no queda de otra que usar monorim + Tizona o Xlock de monorim y listo!
adiós holguras, bienvenida la suavidad y el confort :V
caramba... quién se animará a ponerle un sistema de sonido al M365 xD!
Empiezo a creer que monorim es la respuesta también :)
I would really like to try this setup with a solid 10 inch rear tire and stock 8.5 front pneumatic tire. I also have the front trolley wheels that can make my m365 stand vertical that's why I want the fork instead of monorim (and because Monorim is pricy too). That said, I have the ff. concerns same to what you've mentioned as well. 1. Will I still be able to fold and lock my scooter , and 2. Will the deck stand (included with the fork suspension) work or is it long enough if I'll have 10 inch rear tire.
This with import taxes and VAT turned out like 20 eur cheaper than monorim... Maybe you can try and play with some springs etc... but overall it is not a great product
Nike work!
Maybe Nike will sponsor me one day 😂
i think my china replica of the other variant is better because i can adjust how firm the spring is.
if you remove the mudguard + bracket in the other variant, you have a lot of suspension travel.
I think I'll buy the new suspension for the rear, and see how it is ^^
Let me know how is the rear one if you buy it. BTW do you have a link to your front one?
@@VRMinde Sure, its this one.
aliexpress.com/item/1005001446336241.html
you can find a lot of it if this dealer doesn't suit you, it's all the same suspensions.
The assembly was a bit nerve-wracking, but everything went well and nothing came loose after half a year, nothing is broken either.
Feels a bit getting used to at first because you are standing a little higher, but with solid rubber tires a curve over 10 kmh no longer resembles a suicide attempt
great video and demonstration - i wanted to get this front shocks for my 1S too but having doubts.. I wanted to ask if the "L" shaped front shocks I see on Aliexpress is worth it? (looks like an L shaped fork similar to Xiaomi 4 Ultra but with springs), do you think it is stable/safe? thanks for any feedback
Haven’t tried mate
Question, did you install this 10 "tire. On a 8.5" frame.
I still don't understand your opinion that this shock absorber sucks.
The video clearly shows that he is doing that and that he has a suspension.
Simply compared to the factory rigid connection in the front wheel, this is like a pillow.
Bearing in mind that this scooter is not intended for extreme rides, jumping, this shock absorber certainly does its job.
After all, try to make these jumps as at the end of the shot, but without this shock absorber (with the factory setting), then you will surely know what the difference is.
Hi man, thanks for the comment. Yes 10” tire on the same rim.
I am riding many different scooters daily (I do not commute in a car, i ride bikes/scooters to work) and in different conditions and I have done all sorts of jumps in all sorts of conditions.
This suspension adds unnecessary weight and for me it does not add any benefit. Just more noise, more risk of failure (look at those welding seams! 😳) for more money. It bottoms out at 0.5cm bump and there is no dampening, just a bit of uncontrolled bouncing.
It is ok to disagree with me, I am just sharing my opinion and thoughts, at the end it is your money and your choice if you get one or not :)
I should be getting my order in a few days, so you suggest I change the springs?
Well, I think it might help a bit. Won’t be much help. If you get them too tall/stiff you will be bouncimg around :) I would realy appreciate if you let ne know how the suspension works for you and if you found any improvement for it
how did it go?
Will you be trying the new rear suspension for xiaomi?
I am not sure man. It will be more than 100EUR after customs procedures. And I do not believe it will be great... So I am not sure yet should I spend my money or not
Yeah that's what I'm wondering too.
Looks dope but not sure if it's worth the money.
@@VRMinde I was interested in the suspension kit too, but there arent many good reviews that actualy show it... alternatively i might want to safe up some money for a monorim v2 suspension but its also like 70-80€s
@@CTXDful if you can get monorim for 70-80 it is a no brainer. This one was around 40 with shipping + another almost 30 for customs :)
Potresti dirmi cos'è quel prodotto liquido che ai messo nella gomma prima di gonfiarla?
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3 years later but funnily enough - my springs are so stiff, there is basically no suspension because the entire thing is just completely rigid. I will have to open it up to install lighter springs 😂
Or they are so loose - it just sits at the bottom (at least that was my case) 😅
Did you solve the stiffness? Do you have the measurments (thickness, length, diameter) or replacement springs details?
I just bought mine and it doesn even move under 80kg jumping.
@@Rohirka I just ended up cutting the existing springs slightly and bent them longer
did you change the springs? What size springs did you put on it?
No, I threw this suspension into the trash bin and purchased Monorim. I could not find needed size springs
@@VRMinde Hello friend! Is the monorim front suspension compatible with a 10" tire?
Hey, so not work very good.
But, what about the rear suspension from AliExpress?
I'm interested too!
I do not know if I am willing to invest another 100 eur or so on another similar thing :) I will think about it
Monorim's suspensions are the best mate.
The front one, I agree. I have doubts about the rear one though :)
Give it a try maybe it'll work just fine for you though.
@@Sardeiuzz89 i have monorim in front and konyk on the rear wheel mate, both with air shocks
@@MD77248 monorim is better in every possible way mate. Much better!
@@VRMinde why? And what is the difference btw v3 and v4 on monorim?
Can you fit 10inch tyre on the front aswell??
Yup, it fits :)
@@VRMinde do u need to change the muds ? Pls share a video for muds and 10 inch tires ? I wanna buy 10 inches but i dont know how to make it fit with muds:(
@@imuluer i have an old vid mate called “how I fit 10” tires”. Same mudguards, tires fit under.
May I know your weight? I'm thinking that this suspension is better for a lightweight rider. What do you think?
I am 90kg, but my son is less than 50 and it still does not work. Someone weighing 70 also commented the same - it does not work.
Overall, normal suspension consists of cushioning mechanism like these springs (preferably one that works in progressive way) and the dampener (think hydraulic or pneumatic shock absorber). This fork is not suspension. It is a fork with a spring. It is total crap 😂
The way I saw your video, I don't think it doesn't work. Maybe you mean that it doesn't work the way you wanted it to work. :)
@@JingleIntong it does not work because it does nothing. Just adds weight. Your wheel is still jumping around, no better grip and no comfort as you bottom it out anyways...
@@tonys9923 take a look again at the slow motion images on cobblestone - it does nothing. 10” tires have more effect than this suspension. And if you saw the other video where I still had the 8.5” at the back it was even worse!
@@tonys9923 I cannot comment on monorim, I hope it does? Now when you say it I will need to try and figure out how it is built :)
what did u do to the folding system to svoid shaking
Adjust it
do you have tutorial? 😅
@@arnarnyuuu I do not, but I think I am gonna make one :) many people asked about it. I think there are a lot of them on youtube 🙄
Tío yo he montado una muy parecida a esta pero no amortiguación nada muy duras sabes porque?
Es simplemente por el muelle interno, lo ponen más duro.
That's pretty bad. I have a ebay monorim v2 suspension knock off and it works, but it's not ideal. Luckily it's easy to upgrade the suspension unit to an adjustable air shock absorber what's normally used on performance mountain bikes. 👍
Just be sure to check the wheel bolts on that knock-off. We have one guy where a bit loose bolt resulted in a wrapped suspension, luckily on a slow speed :)
@@VRMinde Nothing as of yet. Been using it for about 6 months now. 👍
Kokie spyruoklių išmatavimai?
~45x22.8, apvija 2.5, 8 apvijos
Nors sveriu tik 70kg bet spyruoklés per minkštos man.
@@emasreika961 tai mano sunus 50kg ir jam per minkstos :)
El xiaomi pro 2 se adapta a la suspensión delantera? gracias
How do you adjust the suspension on these forks?
You don’t... they are non adjustable. You could try different springs, but it will ne a lot of trial-error
@@VRMinde hi VRMinde asking for what size the spring so i can replace new.?
Thank you
@@carlray5733 ~45x22.8, wire thickness 2.5, 8 coils
@@VRMinde thank you VRMinde
@@VRMinde Do you think there's a chance to purchase a fork suspension like the rental Voi has? On Voi it looks great and works well.
Hey man. U seem to be gentle ^-^ i wanna ask. Do you know if i can flash mi scooter s1. U know the "new one"
Hey mate, honestly have no idea :)
@@VRMinde ah np. I'm I not trying 😅
@@yousefshek603 But if you try and figure it out, would be cool if you would drop a comment so I knew what to tell to others that ask the same :)
@@VRMinde if I try I will tell u. But its brand new got it yesterday and I have no idea how things work ^-^
You can flash the new scooters with Pro1 firmwares. But don't change BLE
R: Hola, yo no tengo hermanientas para poder cortar el tubo, me pasa lo mismo el tornillo central de la horquilla no enrosca..nose que hacer porque sin esto se puede doblar.. alguna otra solución ? lo agradecería mucho!!
Hola me pasa lo Mismo lo resolvistes??
Please ,write the.size of original spring .It s too speedy and too small in vidéo.thanks
45 X 22.8 X 2.5mm I did not measure the inner diameter
@@VRMinde thank you!
Do you think this will do?
€ 0,28 31%OFF | 1Pcs Blue Light Load Spiral Stamping Compression Die Spring Outer Diameter 22mm Inner Diameter 11mm Length 25-60mm
a.aliexpress.com/_BTbIbb
@@zeffbenitzki7315 have no idea man. There are also green and brown ones that are stiffer than the blue ones. Please let me know if you try them out. Thanks man!
@@zeffbenitzki7315 You have tested?
Stop messing around and buy the Monorim front suspension with the adjustable shock!
haha you are correct man, I do not actually need the suspension, I just saw this and wanted to give it a try. I am now trying to get the KONYK for the back, and probably will consider the monorim v2 for the front
@@VRMinde I think that only for people upto 70kg so isn’t goi g to be very strong!
I have the Monorim with adjustable shock, and will get the Monorim rear with adjustable shock to match ride.
@@bigpete8567 Even for 50kg rider this one does not work :)
Check out KONYK for the rear as well (search on youtube).
Dónde comprar el muelle?
Link in the description (aliexpress)
@@VRMinde solo muelle donde?
@@theultimatefashion4492 Buena pregunta ... prueba aliexpress también. No intenté reemplazarlos
@@VRMinde no entiendo
@@theultimatefashion4492 Respuesta corta: no sé dónde comprar solo el muelle .. Lo siento - traductor de google :)
There wasn't much to build.because fork legs so short.
So if u have monorim why u put those suspensions ?
I did not have it when making this video :)
is cheaper!
I wanted to buy jt but I won't buy it anymore
This suspension is not great for sure mate
@@VRMinde Thanks for replying
@@reaper7427 no man, thank you for the comment, it helps the channel
Do you think is better yours or this one? The most famous monorim:
ruclips.net/video/7duO-D_vrsE/видео.html
My only doubt in yours is the contact point between wheel hub and fork. I mean, the welding is strong enough?
I have the Monorim V2 at home already, just need to install, test and film the vid. I expect I will be able to reply in about 2 weeks, mate :)
The benefit of the Monorim is that you can install the dual chamber air shock and have something that works like real suspension and not only a metal spring. Another benefit of it is, I believe, longer travel range. And I hope also for better build quality.
The welding should be strong enough.. But how can you tell? :)
Oh, if I am not mistaken - "M365 Custom Parts" are planning to release front disk brake option for the Monorim suspension. Now that would be a serious improvement!
Caution: You have to be careful if the scooter is longer due to the suspensions(monorim) - the forces act differently on the frame.
I have to buy a welding machine now...
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Great "Made in Germany" m365
iam 95 Kilo's and i dont drove offroad.
Wtf :O man. How did that happen? :O O was jumping off like 2 stairs now with the rear suspension! Gotta be careful
@@VRMinde how it happened? I jumped of 2 stairs.
Joke.
I don't know - I didn't jump with it or anything
I saw it when I changed the broken controller at noon today. But it is actually clear that the long wheelbase means that the forces are concentrated at certain points. maybe it wont happend if they had used more material at welding, but that had cost 20 cent more per scooter and at the 20-25 kmh for which the scooter is designed, that would be enough but we changed the statics.
Apart from the fact that it was designed for small, light Chinese poeple :D
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buy low temp aluminum soldering sticks..
Where's your beard at?
I discovered I have an inheritable skin disease and it loves being under the hair, and goes away after a clean shave :) So no more beard for me, I guess :)
look what happened to me, my luck: that I was only 3 kmh fast.
imagine this happens at 30 km/h
never buy cheap china shit.
i.postimg.cc/Y21q2Gx2/1060450.jpg
now i ordered an original MONORIM V3 with a REAL damper, not tthese crap spring things.
www.kroxne.com check them out, there you can get m365 parts but shipped from spain, not china.
samr pirces as in china. i ordered stuff there, we will see how long they need.
i think i will buy the original monorim for rear, i have a new suspension but iam prtty sure the same thing will happen at the rear.
😳😳😳🤯 omg man. I am glad you are ok! Can I reposr this image on youtube?
Amd please let me know how is the monorim. I will need a decent front suspension as well!
@@VRMinde sure you can, please warn all about china parts^^
i will tell you if its better :=)
@@VRMinde I can describe it (the adjustable shock version with 8,5 inch tires):
The good:
-It works well, eats up biger bumps nicely, a lot less brutal
-The travel is good, a lot more than on the susspension from this video
-The swing arms are coupled with dual bearings, so 4 per arm, 16 in total
-Its built really well with okay tolerances
-The deck stays straight
The bad:
-Driving dinamics change a lot, the scooter turns a bit more lazy and is a bit more floaty (which is fine once you get used to it, its like driving a car with 250k km)
-As good as this susspension is its still not as solid as the stock fork - it has a bit of play in the bearings-which makes the above changes.
-Aligning the handle bars is a lot harder without the set screw - even with good alignment the scooter will pull a bit to one side or another. This is partly due to the alignment and partly due to the first point.
-Shock absorbtion is average at best because of the cheap spring shock included. I can see that its constructed great, and has the capability to iron out smaller bumps with a proper air shock. The construction helps with this since the wheel doesn't just move upwards when hitting a bump but also moves it backward a bit (because of the swing arm), distributing forces over a longer period of time.
hope this helps.
PS saw the picture of the cracked frame and i dont think this is because of the wheelbase, but it might be becuse the force of the front is placed ABOVE the bearings, and so the "lever" beeing longer so with the same force, higher torque is distributed throughout the frame. Properly adjusted bearings however should make this less of a problem. The scooter frame also doesn't seem genuine. Havent seen a number engraved there on any of the scooters i've owned, fixed.
My rear suspension arrived me today.. its like heaven to drive, you will love it! bumps are fun now :-D
and its more stable because my scooter is longer now.
My suspension was delivered with a usb cable. lol
i.postimg.cc/W1whXWjG/1060442.jpg
But I had to make some adjustments, the German m365 a lot is different.
It looks waay longer now :)
And there is a lot more space for the feet where you would normally stand on the mudguard. you can feel that the steering mechanism gets less force when braking because you can stand further back.
But now I wish I would have bought the more expensive, more stable version like yours ^^
@@Bergwacht let me first try it when it arrives :D