I decided never to touch anything chemical when I was 17 years old. I worked that summer at a psych hospital and saw young men in wheelchairs who were totally out of it from bad trips. I've worked so hard to get a grip on my own mental health that I would never risk screwing up my brain. This world is hard enough to navigate with all your senses about you. I wouldn't want to be at anyone's mercy
I made a similar commitment after encountering weed my junior year of high school. Of course I like weed, even more now that it is an accepted branch of horticulture that has medicinal value. But I was unprepared for the scene in college when the walls caved in on me. By this, I mean that there were too many parts of my life at that point that were not at all in my control. My father was being a tyrant forcing my miscreant older brother and I to live together, to save money and trouble, and I had to deal with all of his amoral immature bs that was a byproduct of his being dumped by a beauty queen for going for anal sex right off the bat first chance he got. My girlfriend at the time got pregnant, and told me it was my brother's baby. My next gf was even worse, and apparently my brother had a full blown hate campaign against me personally by this time, so nearly everyone I knew at school or in our community was in on it in some way. Then my gf started exploring meth and cocaine - she was susceptible to this, like a lot of other people with bodily dysmorphia. I realized at this time that I was the odd person out in this scenario, and it was just then that the main drug pusher had been told about my resistance to coercion, and she and everyone else in this small college town were playing the same loser dropout game in life of looking for someone to dupe into trying s dangerous substance to "help them cram for exams", and "make them feel happier", fix their coffe wirhdrawals, etc. Whatever they could say to sell you on a "cure" and so there is all kinds of extortion conniving and deceptions going on an epic huge scale, and it is not possible to resist or oppose, because this is just the signal that alerts them to you being another victim of this pushy charade. And even more thrilling for them if you try this reverse psychology on them, unless you know exactly what you're doing, because these people are all only after the thrill of getting you to have your mind changed by dosing you with it unbeknownst to you while you were busy being led into the argument sales pitch shit talking cut down talk to make you scared to say no, they will dose you with spuce calles scopolamine powder aka devils breath and you will get fucked in the ass and used as a drug mule at a gay bar and subsequently have all of any criminal activity involved blamed on you, and they will hold this against you to keep you under their dumb gay thumb. This was what happened to me on my birthday, and it is an extreme challenge now to have a healthy life of any kind, let alone mentally. I only trust me and really never trusted anyone else but me, only sometimes you are up against a mob of individuals, all in the dope, and all slaves to a retarded person with bodily dysmorphia... They live
That's awesome. Good on you. Well thought through for a young person. Young people like yourself give us hope for the future 🙏.. You are missing something. These people on drugs have had a traumatic upbringing of poverty, having addicted parent/s, most likely have failed relationships themselves. Who can not cope. We learn from watching our parents cope with daily life, but these people have not. If they saw anything, it was on TV. As kids, they do badly in school, and many have unknown learning disabilities and undiagnosed mental health problems, stuck self medicating, and now can not afford to get a diagnosis while paying for drugs. They also learn from an early age that effort equals failure and disappointment.. These people don't want to get high. They just want to feel their perception of normal. Most likely, they learned it from the TV soapies where everyone is always happy. The cycle repeats itself with each generation.
I remember I smoked spice and I didn't know where I was. And I was my own house. This was about 13years ago. I was on methadone. I'm 6 years clean from all drugs now thanks for the up load. It was legal at the time in Ireland
The first time my friend tried that stuff he jumped back in the driver seat and I was waiting in the passenger and he had this I don't know how to explain how high I am right now look on his face 🤣 that was 2009 I thin I remember he had this really big smile and told me he was high as fuck and I could tell he meant it. 🤣
I promised my mom i would never do any hard drugs when i was fourteen years old If i could smoke marijuana.. I am 64 now i ride a mini bike and people think im in my 40s.. Thanks mom 😊 Say not to drugs.
@@MusicOfDestruction while it's not free of any harm it certainly has a leg up on every other drug considering the fact you can't die from smoking too much lmfao
I once smoked angel dust, unknowingly, I was a mess. It confirmed me as a dedicated weed smoker. No booze, just legal weed at a phonecall. The thought of spending my life not in control was terrifying.
Read "Tell Your Children" by Alex Berenson or listen to his lectures. Hopefully, you'll stop smoking "legal" weed as well. Weed grown in the U.S. is sprayed with all kinds of toxins as well. But whatever you choose to do, when the consequences are not what you expect or want, remember that YOU CHOSE IT.
@@elenatramsti5176One reason I grow my own. I know the genetics & I know that absolutely nothing was sprayed on it. Weed can be very therapeutic. I only smoke half a joint every night to help me sleep
just wanted to congratulate you on being able to overcome your addiction. Addiction has destroyed several members of my family too. I've been tempted but I decided life is supposed to be a series of ups and downs.
I remember having a conversation with a nurse at the Angwin Hospital who worked with those suffering from drug use. We were talking about the stories you hear about ppl smoking bath salts. What she explained to me was that what occurs is a complete psychotic break. More than a few times I heard stories of ppl under this influence chewing the face off of another person. Very scarey.
The person who did that already suffered from sever mental illness. A lot of people do a ton of illegal sometimes violent stuff on drugs. Its prolonged use that can develop into psychosis, Or its dormant psychosis triggered by the drug. Its not usually the drug itself. I tell everyone to do there research if you are even considering taking any substance. I have used drugs recreationaly for almost 20 years with 0 negative effects. It wasnt until i broke my neck and was perscibed oxcyconton that drugs overwhelmed me with addiction.
As someone who used to do a lot of stimulants, and have had very bad reactions from them…..crowding around a person and saying “just calm down, talk to me, ….etc” just makes paranoia like 100000 times worse. Usually best for everyone to let the person having a bad reaction kind of rude it out solo, while keeping an eye from a short distance. Def offer water, and maybe get a soothing playlist of music going for the person. Ear buds/headphones are great so the person can focus on just listening to music. Tell them they will be ok with some time. Make sure they have plenty to drink, offer carbs of some kind (bread even)….then keep an eye from a distance. Being asked over and over “are you okay?” will just make this persons already horrific experience like a million times worse. Distract them, don’t attach to them. (Unless they ask for that.) Most important point…..get into therapy to figure out why you feel the need to escape reality. Find something like jogging if you need an endorphin rush. Only reason I quit drugs was finding “my” sport-figure skating. At age 29. That’s truly the best high I’ve ever had.
"Find something like jogging if you need an endorphin rush." I confirm. Endurance sports (running, cycling, stationary bike, walking, swimming) have helped me get off my long-term opioid painkillers.
Glad you put this video up. I do not use any kind of drugs and had not seen anyone who had used bath salts. Flailing and munching down on another person is a real-life horror story.
I'm a big fan of c.b.t. I fought herion and fentanyl Addiction for many years, by the Grace of God I've been clean for several years now. Say a prayer for the addict who is still in active Addiction and is suffering.
Great channel great guy.ive only tried mushrooms,and meth but always on green for pain ,luckily not done anything else but love how honest you are about your addictions man,good on you for getting straight .your doing great I would think ,you help alpt of people with information about the drugs ,I appreciate you.jason from new Zealand ,my respect to you dude !!
The effect of this drug is a disconnect of the body/spirit connection. You feel spiritually free but you’re trapped in your body. That’s why these people look like they’re flailing. This is why it’s so addictive. The feeling is otherworldly. I’ve never done bath salts but I’ve done other drugs (pcp and lsd) and I smoked some hot spice that put me in that place!! Scared the 💩 out of me!! I hit the floor and literally held on to the floor until the’ride’ stopped! Never again.
I'm lost....how can you attempt to relate to ppl on bathsalts and understand why it's so addictive but never touched it lol, make it make sense...yall ppl kill me, always have to throw you're 2 cents into everything This is like me trying to say I understand why ppl are addicted to heroin but I've never done it, you get the point? How do you know what these ppl are really feeling or going through unless you've been there? Yeah if someone told you that's how they felt cool but still you don't know from first hand experience which is a big deal
@@infinitejest441 Update* I think it was scopolamine. The high didn't go down until day7/8. It was all around a very unpleasant experience, but I am thankful to be alive. An overdose of that stuff is lethal. All I had was a sip and knew it was doing something. The world is dangerous. Be safe out there, and don't be trusting of people you don't know, and even if you do know them ... don't trust willy nilly. God bless
I had that happen at a company Xmas party a couple would go tp the bar and brought back drinks for me next thing I know i was out of my mind three days later the rest is history
@@susancooper1830 Thats horribe. I'm sorry that happened to you. I do have a question tho. How long did it take you to get a full recovery? I feel like im still a little off. I'm not at 100% I'm like at 85/90% back
@@memoism457 Drugs like that tend to dump all your serotonin or dopamine all at once (one or the other cant remember). It will just take some decent sleep and some good eats to get you back to feeling normal. I used to take similar substances 2-3 times a week (MDMA specifaly) It took me up to a year to feel normal. But i was taking a lot of it regularly. You will be fine and recover 100%. Just make sure to get some restful sleep, drink lots of water, and eat clean healthy foods for a couple days. Maybe some white meats, Fruit, and veggies. Hope this helps.
Have you heard of this case: Letitia Stauch murdered stepson Gannon, and she claims he texted his dad for bathsalts the eve of her killing him. I don't believe he sent text, IMO. She sent that text & left some kind of cigar in his bokbag to suggest he was using drugs😢
I was addicted to them for about 4 years, i dont even remember anything that happened in my life for those 4 years its just a blur. In the uk it was £20 a gram or £10 a half and could buy it in shops. It came in powder or 200mg captules. Honestly, as someone who done coke before that, i found it was even better than coke at a much cheaper price. The high was like coke but stronger. I would get panic attacks on it sometimes. There were 100s of different brands, all with different effects. The one that i found the best called quicksilver ultra, it was amazing. I wasnt acting out like the woman in the video but after my girlfriend found out it ruined out relationship and ultimately my life. The only reason i was able to stop was when it was made illegal and i couldnt buy it anymore. Now about 10 years later i feel like i dont produce any dopamine anymore and have been on prozac to try and counter it. My brain just stopped producing dopamine after it and i ended up extremely depressed. It only took about 1 month for cravings to start going away however i still had really bad sleep problems and depression that still effects me 10 years later. I actually preferred the effects to that of coke as it was a much stronger rush and lasted longer. But obviously if i could turn back time id never have touched it
I thought it was just a thing in American that stuff. I remember our 🇬🇧 shops selling “bubble” and meow meow, is that the stuff it was ? I never tried any of it myself though.
@@Dan23_7 yea meow meow, mcat, cat, plant feeder etc. Nasty stuff but there was so many different brands all with different effects, i must have tried maybe 10-15 different ones and they were all horrible except for quicksilver ultra and bliss lol. Its bot the same as the wacky stuff the yanks take that makes them bend over like zombies, its just a dirty kind of coke feeling except for the one i found that i thought was better than coke lol
Definitely not just an American thing . We had headshops here in Ireland until 2011 . Mephedrone , 6-apb , Ethlyphenidate took up alot of my nights out in my late teens early 20s
Maybe SAM-e could help for dopamine, and it also works on serotonin, could help repair dopamine receptors. It really helps with opioid withdrawals, I'd start noticing an improvement in natural dopamine in a week instead of 2 weeks. Mucuna pruriens could help too and maybe he shou wu.
I’m a alcoholic in recovery sober now 16 years alcohol for me and cannabis were so bad I’d never try any chemicals ever again nor do I want to pick up alcohol again it sent me over th edge
That case back in 2012 in Miami where a guy on bath salts took all his clothes off and attacked a homeless man on a bridge and literally chewed his face and he lost both his eyes from the damage. The police shot and killed the guy after he growled at them.
It’s very sad seeing people going through effects like that. I hope people who are suffering from addictions will overcome them. They can’t be easy to deal with. Personally I’ve never been addicted to any physical drug. But seeing what people go through saddens me.
People affect the outcome of the effects of the drugs, as well as drugs do affect people differently. That's why people use drugs. But to address ill informed drugs as zombie drugs because some schizophrenic people had breakdowns is as damaging to progression as cannabis propaganda or the idea of responsible drinking. The bad guys are the ones who ban substances to sell theirs
I never tried a drug I didn't love. And, THAT lead to years of addiction. Fortunately, I found my way out..... 28 years, and counting. Sooo glad I'm out.... shit's getting scary-ER.
Thought i was doing a small line of coke.. It was bathsalts.. Ended up in the emergency dept with tachycardia.. Never again. Glad its no longer sold at every gas station.
a friend of mine's mother works at a hospital in Boston. she had some real horror stories about people being brought in who were on bath salts. this was about 10 years ago, and it seems that it is no longer a problem. although fentanyl and tranq have replace most street drugs now.
In people I have mentored in NA and other sobriety groups I have discovered that there is a very real need for state funded rehab programs that can address the needs of multiple addictions. A lot of people won't seek help because they are forced to cold turkey at least one of their addictions even if they use MAT (medically assisted treatment) for one of their addictions.
Tim that is a great point!!! I know almost every person I used with used multiple substances. detox was a disaster because the docs and nurses don't know which substances to treat or which addiction first.
So I was shooting this for a while. And you know when you push the air out a little liquid comes out. A few drops landed on my table. The next day I was cleaning up and noticed it actually burnt the varnish off my table where the drops landed!
@@Soberdogs the rushing whoosh you get as you come up with shooting cocaine wasn’t there but It was strong as fuck after it kicked in and lasted ages. Although I destroyed two of the big veins in the crook of my elbow within a two weeks. They never came back. ☹️
So sad people turn to any kind of substance just for the high. I have a lot of faults in my life and grew up in the 60’s when most of my peers used drugs. For some reason it never appealed to me and I 100% stayed away from any of it. Then I would see what it did to my friends and that convinced me more to not do it. Even to this day I won’t stay around people that are drinking or doing any kind of drug. I don’t tell people what they should or should not do I’ll just say I’m not interested. Good luck to any of you dealing with the tough times of rehabbing and don’t give it. We only have one life and yours is totally worth the effort to separate you from a addiction.
I remember doing the Molly’s plant food bath salts a total of five times when I was 17 years old in 2010. The fifth time I did it was absolutely horrifying and scared me straight. I was 90% sure I was going to die.
It’s an amazing feeling the first day. Insane strength, acute hearing, clearer vision, extreme euphoria, and an incredible increase in brain power. Day two the paranoia sets in. Day three and on, hallucinations, intense paranoia, loss of trust of any other human being, this crazy feeling of wanting to take shit apart, and you are a complete weirdo and should not leave the house. I mean auditory and visual hallucinations that seem real. Not psychedelic trails or shifts, real shit that you have to convince yourself isn’t or wasn’t real. If you make it five or six days you better be strong minded and hang on because it gets real crazy from there. I was on it for a year. Completely changed my perception of reality. It feels great in the beginning, and then when you feel bad after too much, it tricks you into thinking more is the answer. When you do sleep, you want the feeling back as soon as you wake up. Vicious circle. It breaks your spirit, consumes your mind, and you feel like a prisoner of paranoia. Other drugs are a walk in the park compared to salt. I’ve used them extensively and excessively. I tell anyone that mentions this stuff to stay away. I do believe that the people that have had extreme psychological reactions already had underlying issues and/or had not slept in days. You don’t just use it and go off the deep end. This was my experience with it. I think it’s such bad news that drug manufacturers and dealers decided to just quit pushing it.
I was completely opposite than U. The first day I use it I couldn't stop smoking it until I fell asleep. I called it "DAYONE" Sometimes id sleep within the normal 24hr day or it could 48hrs , or even 96hrs. That period of time I could not put it down and my chest was very tight and sometimes I'd go onto slow motion or I'd go mute. But after id sleep I could smoke forever and feel amazing. Id still eat and sleep within a reasonable timeframe. From that point forward. The number one reason I did it is cuz it was the best aphrodisiac. And the girls would do anything for some. But I didn't treat them like that. I've always respected them and wouldn't force them to do anything they didn't want to. Which sadly wasn't the Case for 90 percent of the guys around here. Wish it was possible to still find some
Thank you for the information!!! Good video!!! I know 2 two many people that do the salts… It’s hard to watch… I know a few people that developed drug induced schizophrenia!!! That is even harder to watch!!! Thanks again!!!
God I feel so awful for that girl. She is so young has a good life ahead of her if she stops using. I know its hard, I have never used that stuff but I was physically addicted to pain meds for a few years and I have been clean for 5 years now, No drugs no booze nothing. Well unfortunately I still smoke cigarettes and want to stop but its so so hard. And honestly it is harder then stopping opiate medication.
God im glad im off drugs. I suffered for over a decade with addiction and for the last year ive tried to sober up and only within the last two months have i finally succeeded with it and i couldn't be more thankful. My biggest fear of being sober was how uncomfortable id be but watching these types of videos sreing how awful drugs effect people i feel so greatful not to be down that dark road anymore. Im on Suboxone, but that's the only drug im on and i get it from a doctor.
Goddam I'm glad I grew up through the 80s. I was happy just to smoke mj the buzz was satisfying. Now there are so many weird "drugs" that have been unleashed on society
People like to seek out more and more dangerous drugs and this leads to a ever situation where the drug takes over your body and users seek to loose control
Are MDPV & APVP even available? MDPV was banned in 2012 and APVP around 2015 so I don't think people are using these anymore. Ivory Wave was the next best thing to getting those pure.
Bupropion (atypical antidepressant Wellbutrin) is also a substituted cathinone. I wonder if there are reports of adverse effects associated with that med. I've heard it also used in smoking cessation due to effects on nicotinic receptors.
I take bupropion but in small doses. That maybe why but I feel notttthing like I did on fng bath salts when takin it. The bath salt I did was pretty close to meth. Straight up
I have eaten "Bath salts" before. My god it was an incredible high. I would say its grate at a limited amount. The problem is people want to feel like that 24-7. It is not something you can do everyday. I have done it maybe 2=3 times in my life and this was a long time ago. It felt very much like when i had very pure MDMA. The come down was not nearly as bad as mdma though. I didn't feel like all the happiness in my brain was gone. A friend of mine took it regularly for a time and he had some strange side effects. Would not recommend for long time use.
@@Christian_1980 I cant remember if it was his skin his tung or his sweat but something turned blue. He was always known for going overboard and doing to much of everything he touched. I was not there so i will ask him next time i talk to him. I will update you when i find out ;). It was fun, But i'd stay away from that stuff. If you want a speedy/Energetic buzz there are many much safer alternatives.
@@NYBrandywineTree It was really fun. Id amagine its like a more mild Meth. I can see how it would be addictive though. Especially if you could buy it almost anywhere. Made me feel like i could run an ironman marathon with 0 training
It was marketed as "Bath Salts" to make it legal and not abide to any medical regulations when it was clear people would not use it as bath salts but drugs
Holy shit that woman looked scary. The cops should have taken her to an ER or inpatient psychiatric facility. She is a definite threat of harm to anyone in proximity to her or even breaking into someone’s home. That would be so terrifying! Yikes!
I was spiked, thought i had a doob. Jyst assumed i had a whitie. Then after 1 smoke, i could smoke it and function, go to work, cook, clean ect. It enhamced my brain and opened something inside me, for the good, but was killing my body, i was skinny and woukd cough and projectile vomit. Stopped it when it was banned, and didnt effect me either. Im shocked how it didnt effect me like everyone else i knew that smoked it.
I am a chemist,, synthetic cathinone is a interesting stimulant/compound, knowing how its made, and the toxin that formulate the compound i would be very apprehensive about smoking, iv or snorting this stuff, the synapse, dopamine, serotonin release is generally the same as meth, 200 or more times the normal reward system we have a natural high, you can wind that back 200 times or more coming down, ergo addiction, also GABA stimulation, that receptor is the one people have issues with, benzo withdrawal, then the adrenergic receptors a,b and d, oh did I mention c group receptors, over all it is mental cluster f**k, I was a addict 20 plus years, opioids, opiates with benzo,s,, I am 10 years clean and straight, so I feel for anyone doing these stimulants, psychomimetic crap, well done for you mate giving people the heads up, well done
I’ve never done any drugs in my life (illegal ones) sure I was surrounded by them in many instances and offered them etc. I just never had a desire for them and someone can’t say I didn’t have a hard life growing up. A couple examples my first step dad would beat me till I bled if I tried to hug my mom as a kid. He wanted to be the only one to “love my mom”. As a kid I had to watch my mom being raped could not do anything since I was a child. Lots more bad stuff with some things I won’t mention. I didn’t use drugs but other things to cope. I feel bad for people who get caught up in it. I even worked at a drug rehab lots of things I’ve seen even in my family to the point of a first cousin dying from fentanyl.
Man screw that. Im raking anything that makes my limb movement uncontrallable.. if people wanna get high so bad then just do some kratom or go for a jog. Runners high is pretty freaking awsome honestly. It peaces you out.
Bathsalts ... is this the same stuff that can be bought over the counter for putting into your bath? Generally sold in large packets or jars. Sometime lavender - pink or blue in colour with a matching perfume. I will have a look next time go shopping just to see what they are made off. (I think maybe it's soda)
As a drug and alcohol counselor I agree with you however, you didn't mention in your laundry list of cures that the actual only cure is substitution . For example we're a privately run ministries and we use LSD to substitute and transition people into normal life. Above the 90% success rate doesn't lie. 🎉 But it is a long road for some people who need a legitimate amount of time to succeed in this. Anyway I'm just saying that you left out the substitution part of cleanliness and didn't touch on what exactly the people need to do if they truly wanna get sober or straight or whatever they need to continue !!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉😮😅😅😅
I decided never to touch anything chemical when I was 17 years old. I worked that summer at a psych hospital and saw young men in wheelchairs who were totally out of it from bad trips. I've worked so hard to get a grip on my own mental health that I would never risk screwing up my brain. This world is hard enough to navigate with all your senses about you. I wouldn't want to be at anyone's mercy
Great mental strength,, looking after your health is a number 1 essential 😊👍🥰
I made a similar commitment after encountering weed my junior year of high school. Of course I like weed, even more now that it is an accepted branch of horticulture that has medicinal value. But I was unprepared for the scene in college when the walls caved in on me. By this, I mean that there were too many parts of my life at that point that were not at all in my control. My father was being a tyrant forcing my miscreant older brother and I to live together, to save money and trouble, and I had to deal with all of his amoral immature bs that was a byproduct of his being dumped by a beauty queen for going for anal sex right off the bat first chance he got. My girlfriend at the time got pregnant, and told me it was my brother's baby. My next gf was even worse, and apparently my brother had a full blown hate campaign against me personally by this time, so nearly everyone I knew at school or in our community was in on it in some way. Then my gf started exploring meth and cocaine - she was susceptible to this, like a lot of other people with bodily dysmorphia. I realized at this time that I was the odd person out in this scenario, and it was just then that the main drug pusher had been told about my resistance to coercion, and she and everyone else in this small college town were playing the same loser dropout game in life of looking for someone to dupe into trying s dangerous substance to "help them cram for exams", and "make them feel happier", fix their coffe wirhdrawals, etc. Whatever they could say to sell you on a "cure" and so there is all kinds of extortion conniving and deceptions going on an epic huge scale, and it is not possible to resist or oppose, because this is just the signal that alerts them to you being another victim of this pushy charade. And even more thrilling for them if you try this reverse psychology on them, unless you know exactly what you're doing, because these people are all only after the thrill of getting you to have your mind changed by dosing you with it unbeknownst to you while you were busy being led into the argument sales pitch shit talking cut down talk to make you scared to say no, they will dose you with spuce calles scopolamine powder aka devils breath and you will get fucked in the ass and used as a drug mule at a gay bar and subsequently have all of any criminal activity involved blamed on you, and they will hold this against you to keep you under their dumb gay thumb. This was what happened to me on my birthday, and it is an extreme challenge now to have a healthy life of any kind, let alone mentally. I only trust me and really never trusted anyone else but me, only sometimes you are up against a mob of individuals, all in the dope, and all slaves to a retarded person with bodily dysmorphia... They live
That's awesome. Good on you. Well thought through for a young person. Young people like yourself give us hope for the future 🙏..
You are missing something. These people on drugs have had a traumatic upbringing of poverty, having addicted parent/s, most likely have failed relationships themselves. Who can not cope. We learn from watching our parents cope with daily life, but these people have not. If they saw anything, it was on TV. As kids, they do badly in school, and many have unknown learning disabilities and undiagnosed mental health problems, stuck self medicating, and now can not afford to get a diagnosis while paying for drugs. They also learn from an early age that effort equals failure and disappointment.. These people don't want to get high. They just want to feel their perception of normal. Most likely, they learned it from the TV soapies where everyone is always happy. The cycle repeats itself with each generation.
Great you have enough knowledge to understand the mess you would be in if you were to touch any drugs. ❤
Sounds like a chicken… BAWK!
Well done for overcoming addiction and working to help people with addictions. It's great to see young people doing good things. 😊
Don’t glorify drug use
@@RealLeviathan-kl2lt If you think that's glorifying drug use, you have a problem.
I remember I smoked spice and I didn't know where I was. And I was my own house. This was about 13years ago. I was on methadone. I'm 6 years clean from all drugs now thanks for the up load. It was legal at the time in Ireland
Yea spice can be nuts. No idea whats in it every batch is different. SO glad to hear your clean and sober!!!!
The first time my friend tried that stuff he jumped back in the driver seat and I was waiting in the passenger and he had this I don't know how to explain how high I am right now look on his face 🤣 that was 2009 I thin I remember he had this really big smile and told me he was high as fuck and I could tell he meant it. 🤣
I had worst experience with Spice
Methadone at 13? Wowww
@@noname-80lbs13 years ago, not at 13
I promised my mom i would never do any hard drugs when i was fourteen years old
If i could smoke marijuana..
I am 64 now i ride a mini bike and people think im in my 40s..
Thanks mom 😊
Say not to drugs.
Pot isnt as safe as you think either
@@MusicOfDestruction it is if you grow your own!
I'm 65 + and Mary Jane's been my good friend for 50 years.
@@MusicOfDestruction while it's not free of any harm it certainly has a leg up on every other drug considering the fact you can't die from smoking too much lmfao
Marijuana must not be to toxic..willie nelson is 90 yesrs old and still giving concerts..in his bio he said he has smoked it since age 12
You are the opposite of ozzy
I once smoked angel dust, unknowingly, I was a mess.
It confirmed me as a dedicated weed smoker.
No booze, just legal weed at a phonecall.
The thought of spending my life not in control was terrifying.
Read "Tell Your Children" by Alex Berenson or listen to his lectures. Hopefully, you'll stop smoking "legal" weed as well. Weed grown in the U.S. is sprayed with all kinds of toxins as well. But whatever you choose to do, when the consequences are not what you expect or want, remember that YOU CHOSE IT.
A phone call you say?
@@elenatramsti5176One reason I grow my own. I know the genetics & I know that absolutely nothing was sprayed on it. Weed can be very therapeutic. I only smoke half a joint every night to help me sleep
Angel Dust is not a bath Salt tho
You're a "dedicated" weed smoker yet you claim to be in control? Okay, try quitting the weed. And if you can't you're not in control.
just wanted to congratulate you on being able to overcome your addiction. Addiction has destroyed several members of my family too. I've been tempted but I decided life is supposed to be a series of ups and downs.
I remember having a conversation with a nurse at the Angwin Hospital who worked with those suffering from drug use. We were talking about the stories you hear about ppl smoking bath salts. What she explained to me was that what occurs is a complete psychotic break. More than a few times I heard stories of ppl under this influence chewing the face off of another person. Very scarey.
The person who did that already suffered from sever mental illness. A lot of people do a ton of illegal sometimes violent stuff on drugs. Its prolonged use that can develop into psychosis, Or its dormant psychosis triggered by the drug. Its not usually the drug itself. I tell everyone to do there research if you are even considering taking any substance. I have used drugs recreationaly for almost 20 years with 0 negative effects. It wasnt until i broke my neck and was perscibed oxcyconton that drugs overwhelmed me with addiction.
As someone who used to do a lot of stimulants, and have had very bad reactions from them…..crowding around a person and saying “just calm down, talk to me, ….etc” just makes paranoia like 100000 times worse.
Usually best for everyone to let the person having a bad reaction kind of rude it out solo, while keeping an eye from a short distance. Def offer water, and maybe get a soothing playlist of music going for the person. Ear buds/headphones are great so the person can focus on just listening to music. Tell them they will be ok with some time. Make sure they have plenty to drink, offer carbs of some kind (bread even)….then keep an eye from a distance.
Being asked over and over “are you okay?” will just make this persons already horrific experience like a million times worse. Distract them, don’t attach to them. (Unless they ask for that.)
Most important point…..get into therapy to figure out why you feel the need to escape reality. Find something like jogging if you need an endorphin rush. Only reason I quit drugs was finding “my” sport-figure skating. At age 29. That’s truly the best high I’ve ever had.
Good advice. Thanks for that.
@@kennethjohnson-lh1fs it's worldwide silly 🤪
"Find something like jogging if you need an endorphin rush."
I confirm. Endurance sports (running, cycling, stationary bike, walking, swimming) have helped me get off my long-term opioid painkillers.
I am glad these drugs werent around in the 80s. I had to learn about these drugs while my kids grew up. Be honest with your kids. ❤
Appreciate the information. They should teach this in middle schools.
Jesus Christ who the hell would want to feel like that?
😭😭😭😭 thank you!!!
Thats a side effect not the actual drug. This happens when you keep re-dosing and stay up for 3 days straight.
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Glad you put this video up. I do not use any kind of drugs and had not seen anyone who had used bath salts. Flailing and munching down on another person is a real-life horror story.
I'm a big fan of c.b.t. I fought herion and fentanyl Addiction for many years, by the Grace of God I've been clean for several years now. Say a prayer for the addict who is still in active Addiction and is suffering.
Thank you ,it's good to teach people the dangers of drugs, young people need to see this.
They do watch.. some are actually learning how to use or make it now..
It's the opiate withdrawal that beats me got medicly addicted at start of my disability
I am never putting bath salt in my bath ever again, after watching this.
This video was super helpful. I went from knowing nothing to knowing sooooo much in only a few minutes. Thanks !
Of course. Thank you for watching!!!! So glad it was helpful
Great channel great guy.ive only tried mushrooms,and meth but always on green for pain ,luckily not done anything else but love how honest you are about your addictions man,good on you for getting straight .your doing great I would think ,you help alpt of people with information about the drugs ,I appreciate you.jason from new Zealand ,my respect to you dude !!
The effect of this drug is a disconnect of the body/spirit connection. You feel spiritually free but you’re trapped in your body. That’s why these people look like they’re flailing. This is why it’s so addictive. The feeling is otherworldly. I’ve never done bath salts but I’ve done other drugs (pcp and lsd) and I smoked some hot spice that put me in that place!! Scared the 💩 out of me!! I hit the floor and literally held on to the floor until the’ride’ stopped! Never again.
I'm lost....how can you attempt to relate to ppl on bathsalts and understand why it's so addictive but never touched it lol, make it make sense...yall ppl kill me, always have to throw you're 2 cents into everything
This is like me trying to say I understand why ppl are addicted to heroin but I've never done it, you get the point?
How do you know what these ppl are really feeling or going through unless you've been there? Yeah if someone told you that's how they felt cool but still you don't know from first hand experience which is a big deal
Someone spiked my drink on 5 days ago, and I'm still feeling it. Thank you for this video. It took me a long time to find out what it even is.
Whoever did that is no friend.
@@infinitejest441 Update* I think it was scopolamine. The high didn't go down until day7/8. It was all around a very unpleasant experience, but I am thankful to be alive. An overdose of that stuff is lethal. All I had was a sip and knew it was doing something. The world is dangerous. Be safe out there, and don't be trusting of people you don't know, and even if you do know them ... don't trust willy nilly. God bless
I had that happen at a company Xmas party a couple would go tp the bar and brought back drinks for me next thing I know i was out of my mind three days later the rest is history
@@susancooper1830 Thats horribe. I'm sorry that happened to you. I do have a question tho. How long did it take you to get a full recovery? I feel like im still a little off. I'm not at 100% I'm like at 85/90% back
@@memoism457 Drugs like that tend to dump all your serotonin or dopamine all at once (one or the other cant remember). It will just take some decent sleep and some good eats to get you back to feeling normal. I used to take similar substances 2-3 times a week (MDMA specifaly) It took me up to a year to feel normal. But i was taking a lot of it regularly. You will be fine and recover 100%. Just make sure to get some restful sleep, drink lots of water, and eat clean healthy foods for a couple days. Maybe some white meats, Fruit, and veggies. Hope this helps.
I think people are losing their damn mind. What happened to the days where you just had a beer once in awhile?!
This channel deserves millions.
Glad I've never been tempted to try it. Now that I know this, I never will try it either. Thanks for the facts.
Have you heard of this case: Letitia Stauch murdered stepson Gannon, and she claims he texted his dad for bathsalts the eve of her killing him. I don't believe he sent text, IMO. She sent that text & left some kind of cigar in his bokbag to suggest he was using drugs😢
Yeah, I hope somebody strings that crazy bitch up.. That poor kid didn't deserve that shit..
To everyone reading this and everyone not reading this: *I LOVE YOU SO MUCH AND I AM SO PROUD OF YOU*
thank you
Very informative information... really sad to even think this stuff exists seeing how they react on it.
I was addicted to them for about 4 years, i dont even remember anything that happened in my life for those 4 years its just a blur. In the uk it was £20 a gram or £10 a half and could buy it in shops. It came in powder or 200mg captules. Honestly, as someone who done coke before that, i found it was even better than coke at a much cheaper price. The high was like coke but stronger. I would get panic attacks on it sometimes. There were 100s of different brands, all with different effects. The one that i found the best called quicksilver ultra, it was amazing. I wasnt acting out like the woman in the video but after my girlfriend found out it ruined out relationship and ultimately my life. The only reason i was able to stop was when it was made illegal and i couldnt buy it anymore. Now about 10 years later i feel like i dont produce any dopamine anymore and have been on prozac to try and counter it. My brain just stopped producing dopamine after it and i ended up extremely depressed. It only took about 1 month for cravings to start going away however i still had really bad sleep problems and depression that still effects me 10 years later. I actually preferred the effects to that of coke as it was a much stronger rush and lasted longer. But obviously if i could turn back time id never have touched it
I thought it was just a thing in American that stuff. I remember our 🇬🇧 shops selling “bubble” and meow meow, is that the stuff it was ? I never tried any of it myself though.
@@Dan23_7 yea meow meow, mcat, cat, plant feeder etc. Nasty stuff but there was so many different brands all with different effects, i must have tried maybe 10-15 different ones and they were all horrible except for quicksilver ultra and bliss lol. Its bot the same as the wacky stuff the yanks take that makes them bend over like zombies, its just a dirty kind of coke feeling except for the one i found that i thought was better than coke lol
Definitely not just an American thing . We had headshops here in Ireland until 2011 . Mephedrone , 6-apb , Ethlyphenidate took up alot of my nights out in my late teens early 20s
Do you mind me asking if you think the prozac helped you at all and if you still take it thanks.
Maybe SAM-e could help for dopamine, and it also works on serotonin, could help repair dopamine receptors. It really helps with opioid withdrawals, I'd start noticing an improvement in natural dopamine in a week instead of 2 weeks. Mucuna pruriens could help too and maybe he shou wu.
Lost a friend to that shit. When he told me he tried it,and loved it,I told him forget that chemical sh1t. In a couple months he hung himself.
God bless you for caring and helping
I’m a alcoholic in recovery sober now 16 years alcohol for me and cannabis were so bad I’d never try any chemicals ever again nor do I want to pick up alcohol again it sent me over th edge
Great video. I was curious about how long the effects last.
That case back in 2012 in Miami where a guy on bath salts took all his clothes off and attacked a homeless man on a bridge and literally chewed his face and he lost both his eyes from the damage. The police shot and killed the guy after he growled at them.
It’s very sad seeing people going through effects like that. I hope people who are suffering from addictions will overcome them. They can’t be easy to deal with.
Personally I’ve never been addicted to any physical drug. But seeing what people go through saddens me.
but you are addicted. sugar? caffeine? you are addicted to something friend
@@jjg1501 True. I just feel bad for people who have worse addictions.
I tried bath salts, and other designer drugs. Never turned into a rabid zombie. Alcohol was the worst drug I ever got my hands on.
Drugs effect people differently.
People affect the outcome of the effects of the drugs, as well as drugs do affect people differently. That's why people use drugs. But to address ill informed drugs as zombie drugs because some schizophrenic people had breakdowns is as damaging to progression as cannabis propaganda or the idea of responsible drinking. The bad guys are the ones who ban substances to sell theirs
Don’t be a bath salt apologist
37 years clean and sober. One day at a time. Love to see those clean pictures.
I never tried a drug I didn't love. And, THAT lead to years of addiction. Fortunately, I found my way out.....
28 years, and counting.
Sooo glad I'm out....
shit's getting scary-ER.
Thought i was doing a small line of coke.. It was bathsalts.. Ended up in the emergency dept with tachycardia..
Never again. Glad its no longer sold at every gas station.
WoW I didn’t have any idea about this stuff. Thank for the education!
Any time CutchDog You know it. hope everything is going well
Thanks for sharing subscribed. My uncle went kinda crazy on bath salts and I wondered what it was.
Im go glad im over drugs now 3 years clean.. from 17 off and on till bout 25. Im 30 now.. i only smoke weed and couple beer once in awhile.
Thanks for explaining this
a friend of mine's mother works at a hospital in Boston. she had some real horror stories about people being brought in who were on bath salts. this was about 10 years ago, and it seems that it is no longer a problem.
although fentanyl and tranq have replace most street drugs now.
❤thank you SO much for putting this on here❤
I thought traditionally "bath salts" were manesiam sulphate( epsom salts) ?
OMG!!! THEY ARE ONLY CALLED BATH SALTS THEY ARENT ACTUAL BATH SALTS YOU BUY TO BATH IN!!!
I was worried too till I saw the reply you got 😹😹😹👍
Good to see The Ring Lady included to give an example… shes so beautiful how her eyes flickered like that
The moment addiction recovery left your mouth is when I pressed subscribe button. 🎉🎉🎉
My wife's cousin took his life on bath salts. Shot to the heart. It was a terrible thing for our family.
In people I have mentored in NA and other sobriety groups I have discovered that there is a very real need for state funded rehab programs that can address the needs of multiple addictions. A lot of people won't seek help because they are forced to cold turkey at least one of their addictions even if they use MAT (medically assisted treatment) for one of their addictions.
Tim that is a great point!!! I know almost every person I used with used multiple substances. detox was a disaster because the docs and nurses don't know which substances to treat or which addiction first.
So I was shooting this for a while. And you know when you push the air out a little liquid comes out. A few drops landed on my table. The next day I was cleaning up and noticed it actually burnt the varnish off my table where the drops landed!
HOLY SHIT are you serious? Imagine what that's doing to your veins. What was it like shooting it?
@@Soberdogs the rushing whoosh you get as you come up with shooting cocaine wasn’t there but It was strong as fuck after it kicked in and lasted ages. Although I destroyed two of the big veins in the crook of my elbow within a two weeks. They never came back. ☹️
So sad people turn to any kind of substance just for the high. I have a lot of faults in my life and grew up in the 60’s when most of my peers used drugs. For some reason it never appealed to me and I 100% stayed away from any of it. Then I would see what it did to my friends and that convinced me more to not do it. Even to this day I won’t stay around people that are drinking or doing any kind of drug. I don’t tell people what they should or should not do I’ll just say I’m not interested. Good luck to any of you dealing with the tough times of rehabbing and don’t give it. We only have one life and yours is totally worth the effort to separate you from a addiction.
Proud of all of you for being able to pull yourself from the past.
I remember doing the Molly’s plant food bath salts a total of five times when I was 17 years old in 2010. The fifth time I did it was absolutely horrifying and scared me straight. I was 90% sure I was going to die.
Bad hallucinations and forget sleeping 💤… you won’t. Total poison ☠️!
It’s an amazing feeling the first day. Insane strength, acute hearing, clearer vision, extreme euphoria, and an incredible increase in brain power. Day two the paranoia sets in. Day three and on, hallucinations, intense paranoia, loss of trust of any other human being, this crazy feeling of wanting to take shit apart, and you are a complete weirdo and should not leave the house. I mean auditory and visual hallucinations that seem real. Not psychedelic trails or shifts, real shit that you have to convince yourself isn’t or wasn’t real. If you make it five or six days you better be strong minded and hang on because it gets real crazy from there. I was on it for a year. Completely changed my perception of reality. It feels great in the beginning, and then when you feel bad after too much, it tricks you into thinking more is the answer. When you do sleep, you want the feeling back as soon as you wake up. Vicious circle. It breaks your spirit, consumes your mind, and you feel like a prisoner of paranoia. Other drugs are a walk in the park compared to salt. I’ve used them extensively and excessively. I tell anyone that mentions this stuff to stay away. I do believe that the people that have had extreme psychological reactions already had underlying issues and/or had not slept in days. You don’t just use it and go off the deep end. This was my experience with it. I think it’s such bad news that drug manufacturers and dealers decided to just quit pushing it.
I was completely opposite than U. The first day I use it I couldn't stop smoking it until I fell asleep. I called it "DAYONE" Sometimes id sleep within the normal 24hr day or it could 48hrs , or even 96hrs. That period of time I could not put it down and my chest was very tight and sometimes I'd go onto slow motion or I'd go mute. But after id sleep I could smoke forever and feel amazing. Id still eat and sleep within a reasonable timeframe. From that point forward. The number one reason I did it is cuz it was the best aphrodisiac. And the girls would do anything for some. But I didn't treat them like that. I've always respected them and wouldn't force them to do anything they didn't want to. Which sadly wasn't the Case for 90 percent of the guys around here. Wish it was possible to still find some
Super informative, thank you
Thank you
Thank you for the information!!! Good video!!! I know 2 two many people that do the salts… It’s hard to watch… I know a few people that developed drug induced schizophrenia!!! That is even harder to watch!!! Thanks again!!!
Thanks man going try some soon.
God I feel so awful for that girl. She is so young has a good life ahead of her if she stops using. I know its hard, I have never used that stuff but I was physically addicted to pain meds for a few years and I have been clean for 5 years now, No drugs no booze nothing. Well unfortunately I still smoke cigarettes and want to stop but its so so hard. And honestly it is harder then stopping opiate medication.
God im glad im off drugs. I suffered for over a decade with addiction and for the last year ive tried to sober up and only within the last two months have i finally succeeded with it and i couldn't be more thankful. My biggest fear of being sober was how uncomfortable id be but watching these types of videos sreing how awful drugs effect people i feel so greatful not to be down that dark road anymore. Im on Suboxone, but that's the only drug im on and i get it from a doctor.
Crazy! Why on earth would one do this anyway?
Looking for a purpose in their lives. Best guess.bored ,wanting to experiment.
Goddam I'm glad I grew up through the 80s. I was happy just to smoke mj the buzz was satisfying. Now there are so many weird "drugs" that have been unleashed on society
So this isn’t the same thing that I put in my bath, right?
Or is it-Like with epsom salts and you get them at Walgreens?
Or is it like tide pods?
People like to seek out more and more dangerous drugs and this leads to a ever situation where the drug takes over your body and users seek to loose control
I’m not gonna do it even if you pay me, looks like a really bad Idea
(Loving the thumbnails btw)
Thanks so much Yea same here no desire to but i can see why people do. During active addiction all those rational thoughts go out of the window.
good info, thanks.
Last sippa the sauce was may 1st last year. Way to keep people hip, if they HAVE to use.
..the woman bought a large bag last week .but to put in her baths..we had no idea it was used as a drug...it sounds dangerous to me..😱🤔😱
Are MDPV & APVP even available? MDPV was banned in 2012 and APVP around 2015 so I don't think people are using these anymore. Ivory Wave was the next best thing to getting those pure.
Is this the same you put in your bath water?
"plant food"...well, that might explain Little Shop of Horrors 😂
Thank u for your channel interesting
Bupropion (atypical antidepressant Wellbutrin) is also a substituted cathinone. I wonder if there are reports of adverse effects associated with that med. I've heard it also used in smoking cessation due to effects on nicotinic receptors.
I take bupropion but in small doses. That maybe why but I feel notttthing like I did on fng bath salts when takin it. The bath salt I did was pretty close to meth. Straight up
I thought they took it off the market because of bad side effects...and chantax was took off as well
Why does this feel like he's trying to sell the stuff? Can't tell if this is an endorsement or what.
I have eaten "Bath salts" before. My god it was an incredible high. I would say its grate at a limited amount. The problem is people want to feel like that 24-7. It is not something you can do everyday. I have done it maybe 2=3 times in my life and this was a long time ago. It felt very much like when i had very pure MDMA. The come down was not nearly as bad as mdma though. I didn't feel like all the happiness in my brain was gone. A friend of mine took it regularly for a time and he had some strange side effects. Would not recommend for long time use.
What strange side effects did your friend have?
Done it a few times by accident & has a grate time!
@@Christian_1980 I cant remember if it was his skin his tung or his sweat but something turned blue. He was always known for going overboard and doing to much of everything he touched. I was not there so i will ask him next time i talk to him. I will update you when i find out ;). It was fun, But i'd stay away from that stuff. If you want a speedy/Energetic buzz there are many much safer alternatives.
@@NYBrandywineTree It was really fun. Id amagine its like a more mild Meth. I can see how it would be addictive though. Especially if you could buy it almost anywhere. Made me feel like i could run an ironman marathon with 0 training
Or, do not recommend it at!?
Nasty crap! Thanks mate stay clean😎
So, it is NOT literal bath salts (like for using in water treatment) but it looks similar?
Exactly
It was marketed as "Bath Salts" to make it legal and not abide to any medical regulations when it was clear people would not use it as bath salts but drugs
Holy shit that woman looked scary. The cops should have taken her to an ER or inpatient psychiatric facility. She is a definite threat of harm to anyone in proximity to her or even breaking into someone’s home. That would be so terrifying! Yikes!
I was spiked, thought i had a doob.
Jyst assumed i had a whitie. Then after 1 smoke, i could smoke it and function, go to work, cook, clean ect. It enhamced my brain and opened something inside me, for the good, but was killing my body, i was skinny and woukd cough and projectile vomit.
Stopped it when it was banned, and didnt effect me either.
Im shocked how it didnt effect me like everyone else i knew that smoked it.
Thank you ❤
Bro, I need help right now. I’m geeked up off of pop tart.
I am a chemist,, synthetic cathinone is a interesting stimulant/compound, knowing how its made, and the toxin that formulate the compound i would be very apprehensive about smoking, iv or snorting this stuff, the synapse, dopamine, serotonin release is generally the same as meth, 200 or more times the normal reward system we have a natural high, you can wind that back 200 times or more coming down, ergo addiction, also GABA stimulation, that receptor is the one people have issues with, benzo withdrawal, then the adrenergic receptors a,b and d, oh did I mention c group receptors, over all it is mental cluster f**k, I was a addict 20 plus years, opioids, opiates with benzo,s,, I am 10 years clean and straight, so I feel for anyone doing these stimulants, psychomimetic crap, well done for you mate giving people the heads up, well done
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I haven't heard the name in well over 10 years... does it still exist? If so, does it still get sold and fly under the radar?
O yea its still out there just being sold under different names and diff products
@@Soberdogs in the netherlands its huge, its called "miauw" which translates to meow
dangerous angry😡head alien magic big hit crash smash
I tried every drug known to man and what I found was the best high I ever got was from success and going top speed on my motorcycle.
Poor girl why didn't they call an ambulance instead of standing around filming her
Sad to see, pray for these people
I’ve never done any drugs in my life (illegal ones) sure I was surrounded by them in many instances and offered them etc. I just never had a desire for them and someone can’t say I didn’t have a hard life growing up. A couple examples my first step dad would beat me till I bled if I tried to hug my mom as a kid. He wanted to be the only one to “love my mom”. As a kid I had to watch my mom being raped could not do anything since I was a child. Lots more bad stuff with some things I won’t mention. I didn’t use drugs but other things to cope. I feel bad for people who get caught up in it. I even worked at a drug rehab lots of things I’ve seen even in my family to the point of a first cousin dying from fentanyl.
Are you serious usually someone that's doing bath salts has already flipped out.
I have khat tree in my backyard, we call it green gold in Kenya
Do a video about Jenkins
I was addicted to it injecting it it was just like coke or meth wasn’t anything crazy about it at all
Methylone and mephadrone
That lady looked possesed. Very sad.
Amazing the things people will use to get high😳
Very interesting Kyle❤️
Yea very very nuts during addiction people use insane things.
Man screw that. Im raking anything that makes my limb movement uncontrallable.. if people wanna get high so bad then just do some kratom or go for a jog. Runners high is pretty freaking awsome honestly. It peaces you out.
STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. REAP WHAT YOU SOW.✝️🙏👑❤️
They are used for baths as well
Bathsalts ... is this the same stuff that can be bought over the counter for putting into your bath? Generally sold in large packets or jars. Sometime lavender - pink or blue in colour with a matching perfume.
I will have a look next time go shopping just to see what they are made off. (I think maybe it's soda)
That stuff has nothing to do with it. Did you even watch the video? Good grief.
Your 10 years to late on this video. i do appreciate it good info.
Very informative, no nonsense, great report
As a drug and alcohol counselor I agree with you however, you didn't mention in your laundry list of cures that the actual only cure is substitution . For example we're a privately run ministries and we use LSD to substitute and transition people into normal life. Above the 90% success rate doesn't lie. 🎉
But it is a long road for some people who need a legitimate amount of time to succeed in this. Anyway I'm just saying that you left out the substitution part of cleanliness and didn't touch on what exactly the people need to do if they truly wanna get sober or straight or whatever they need to continue !!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉😮😅😅😅
Its funny how AA suppresses the fact that Bill Wilson credited LSD with the creation of AA
I been putting them in my bath... little did I know..
I worked in a emergency room for 5 years. You are not telling anything that is not true.