Sig Sauer P320 MAX
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- In today's video we take a first look at the @sigsauerinc Custom Works P320MAX. Designed for Carry Optics division, it is the high-end competition version of the XFive Legion. I've been curious about this firearm but locally we don't see them very often. It is roughly $550 more expensive than the XFive Legion. Do you think it's worth it? What do you think of the @sigsauerinc P320MAX? I look forward to your comments.
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#sigsauer #p320 #9mm
I have been shooting a modified P320X5 Legion in the CO Division. My modifications include Grayguns trigger springs, Armorycraft adjustable flat trigger, tungsten guide rod, Springer stainless extended mag release. My optic is a Leupold Deltapoint pro 2.5moa which is a direct bolt on without adapter plates. Having checked out the P320MAX, my opinion is that you are paying a lot of money for the MAX branding. My built up Legion has a smoother, lighter and fully adjustable trigger pull, take up and reset. My trigger is sub 2#. It feels as good as a 1911 trigger without being a 1911. With regard to the optics, I have Sig optics on some of my guns. They are nice and come with a great warranty and customer service. I just prefer the DPP because of the ease of use and ergonomics. The DPP is robust, easy to adjust, turn on and off and change batteries, has great glass and a crisp red dot. I have 2 identical P320’s that only differ in moa. I have both 6 & 2.5moa dots. Personally, I prefer the 2.5moa dot over the 6. It is more accurate and in the bright Arizona sun the dot is quite visible when turned up to bright settings. The 2.5 is so good I just bought a second one and replaced the 6moa on my other 320 so the guns are now identical. I was favoring the 2.5 and now will be alternating the 2 guns. I have less than what a 320MAX costs in my CO competition gun. If someone buys the MAX and is a serious competitor they are going to have to upgrade the trigger and springs, guide rod and mag release at a cost of about $400 even if they keep the 6moa Sig red dot this making the P320MAX way overpriced for what it is.
Note that this is just my opinion, so take it for what it’s worth.
Thank you very much for sharing all this information with us. It’s always hear from someone that actually uses similar guns in competition. I appreciate you taking the time to stop by.
Just did my first range test/training session with my new P320 Max that I’ll be using in IPSC competition. The added value of the Max is in the slide and included direct cut Romeo3Max optic . I shot a range of ammo with the 12 lb spring - no issues from 115 to 150 gr . I was able to place a 1” group in the X Ring from the bench @ 25 yards so accuracy was as expected . High speed controlled pairs were tight . The optic is great for competition , very big, clear and bright. Had a bit of trigger freeze a few times as I have another X series pistol but just came of month with my Shadow 2 and the DA pull off the first shot is obviously very different. The magwell must be removed for both USPA and IPSC CO/PO divisions but you can use it in 3-gun Open or IDPA CO ( I think it just makes the 45oz weight ) This is definitely a pistol for the dedicated competition shooter but with the optic installed and added mags , it’s a better value OotB than it’s main CO rival , the OR CZ S2 . Note on P320’s , like all pistols , things break and I’d replace the OEM take down lever with an Armory Craft Extended billet steel version . I also use a Springer Extended paddle mag release. I bit tricky to install but performs much better than the OEM. I love my excellent CZ S2 but I also appreciate the simplicity and modularity of the Sig FCU and the over all egos of the Legion/Max pistols.
Thank you very much for all this information. Much appreciated!
I'm considering this gun vs. a CZ Shadow 2 OR. Seems like a better value. Have you shot the p320 Max in IPSC yet? How did it compare to your Shadow2? I'm looking for a gun that's ready to go out of the box that's fast, accurate and reliable.
@@johnfrizzell Obviously the Shadow 2 is a great gun. I’m lucky that I have experience with both the S2 and P320 platforms. It's an ongoing debate with my IPSC buddies as a lot have gone back and forth. A stock S2 should get a spring and reduced rigger spring job done by a gunsmith to optimize it’s abilities IMO. The S2 OR can be possibly harder on optics tho I’ve had no issues. . It is really very personal and sometimes just superstitious lol ! I just shot my best IPSC match with the Max but it could be I’m just getting better every month . If you just want to run right out of the box AND the Legion Grip module fits your hand well , the Max is ready to go. I run Talon tape on the Max - adding texture is advised . The S2 needs some stuff like an optic , plate , spring work ideally , possibly grip panels - I ran Lok Brass but switched back to Lok G10 Bogies as the gun seemed too heavy. But lots of top guys just run the stock alu panels. Both pistols have never malfunctioned apart from an ammo related problem. I’d get both and sell one once you have spent enough time with both lol !
@@stovepipe8966 Great advice! Thank you.
@@stovepipe8966 one last question on the Max. How is the accuracy compared to the CZ Shadow 2? Thank you.
Thanks for the review. Seems to be an awesome pistol. Among other things, I really like those slide serrations. I guess the price increase over the X5 Legion is justified by the Romeo 3 Max you get with this pistol.
I just Picked Mines Up, Today! The Red Dot is Lit! I'm in Love!
Congratulations! Please let me know what you think of it after you shoot it.
@@MDpolo Will Do. Friend.
It does look like a good out-of-the-box competition gun and I've read good things about the Romeo3 optic. No back-up iron sights is okay for competition as long as the shooter remembers that there are two kinds of red dot sights: those that have failed, and those that will fail. And it's still less than the Staccato P. Waiting for your range review.
Well said about red dots. As always, thank you very much for stopping by.
Buy it!
the max reddot is 600 already
The Max comes with a $600 red dot, 4 21rd mags, and a unique slide cut, VS with the X5 Legion, you just get iron sights, and 3 17rd short mags. I think it's worth the price. I prefer extended mags for an easier load, and a better grip if there's any malfunction. Good luck picking the 17rd mag out of that magwell with a double feed.
Good point! Thank you very much for watching.
Great point 👍There are aftermarket mag wells with cut always for stripping out a mag during malfunction. Armory Craft offers a competition version
Sig has a hit on it's hands with the X5 Legion, Max and the new Spectre. All of those firearms shot great at the range.
I have 2 320 4.7" X-five and put AXG grips on them - They have best striker fired trigger I have found yet. One is getting walnut grip panels.
I don't care for the slide serations on the max myself, I also have a PDP compact grip and long slide, a couple PPQs, also 3 custom works compact 320s. The 320 X-fives are my favorite.
Thanks for the video !
You are welcome. That’s quite the Sig collection you have. Thank you for watching!
SUPER... ❤
I have 2 custom works Sigs and love them both! The AXG Scorpion 🦂 and my edc the P365XL Spectre… they are smooth shooting machines
Both very good choices. Thank you very much for watching!
First. I was waiting for the X10 but that's interesting too. That magwell on that grip is like a skirt that doesn't fit. If you get it, be aware of the length of mags and boxes the whole thing has to fit in.
It was designed specifically for carry optics division so I assume it will fit but I have not tried it myself. Thank you very much for watching.
A Romeo 3 Max Red Dot! Awesome!
First Sig red dot that I like.
not a terrible deal compared to the X5 Legion, considering the price of the Romeo 3
Yes, the overall package makes sense. Thank you very much for stopping by.
I just picked up one of these today. The major difference for me is that the Legion also has iron sights, while the MAX does not. Adding an optic to the Legion puts them roughly at the same price. I was going to add an optic anyway and the Romeo 3 seems as bright and viewable as Trijicon's SRO. I'll find out tomorrow at the range.
Congratulations on your set up. Please let me know how you like it after you shoot it. Thank you very much for watching!
@@MDpolo First trip to a range went well. Recoil is very low and no failures of any kind after 210 rounds of 115gr FMJ. The magazines are easy to load up to 20 and the 21st just requires a bit extra thumb pressure. It's interesting to me that the most noticeable noise is the recoil spring. It's like the buffer on an AR. I only shot offhand and it's very easy to control, even in rapid fire. At some point, I may try from a benchrest, but accuracy and consistency seem fine. I wouldn't want to use it for EDC, but that's a weight issue and expected. The Romeo3 is nice and clear. I have a RMR on another pistol and the Romeo3's larger glass makes it quite a bit easier to acquire the dot. The trigger feels a bit mushy like every other striker fired pistol I've handled, but release & reset are good. Press checks are easy. Overall, I'm pleased. Having 4 magazines included in the purchase is great.
That’s awesome.
I like the dh3 more this would be my 2nd pick
Yea, I like the DH3
They could have done way better with the triggers on this gun as well as well as the Legion, and the spectre comp .I just bought the Spectre comp and the trigger sucks . Not fast enough for the guns potential, upgrade is on order . I have 5 of the original , alloy frame Legions and the trigger reset and travel are way better ....
I agree with you. Thank you very much for stopping by.
I Own one, I'll let You know after The Range. US ARMY Combat Veteran!🇺🇸💯
Please do and thank you Sir for your service 🇺🇸.
@@MDpolo Will Do, And Thank You!🇺🇸💯
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It's a nice pistol but I'm not sure I'd be willing to pull the trigger on it for that price. I don't own a 320 but I am interested in the new 10mm they just released. I'm holding off to see some more reviews on it. I'm curious about your thoughts on the "best millimeter" offering from Sig.
I’m working on a table top for the 10 mm followed by a range report after that. Thank you very much for watching.
Nice Review, I’ve been able to shoot one. Carry On
@Big Johnson Guns and Gear What are your thoughts on it?
@@MDpolo I thought it was ok for what it’s designed for, However nothing really exciting about it IMO.
Lots of people love the Legion lineup, but this is just another version with a different color lipstick..to me.
Be Safe Brother & Carry On
@@BigJohnsonGG
I like that: different lipstick. Sig is absolutely brilliant about changing the lipstick and getting people to buy the new version. Good on them.
Remember, that optic alone costs around $600, more than most guns. For me, the price was worth it.
Thank you for the close up look. I’m a Sig fan (I have lots of Legions and a P365xl, trigger jobs done by Sig Armorer, 1.5 lb triggers), but that Max trigger looks awful. After the trigger job on my 226 legion, the reset isn’t even measurable. I just picked up a CZ orange with a reset that’s not measurable it’s so small. $1700? You have an extraordinary collection of guns, great 1911s, I just don’t see what the hype is about. It’s just another striker fired gun. So I guess I’m saying it’s just not for me; I like a hammer fired gun. Best Regards and thank you again for the footage.
You are more than welcome. I think it’s a good gun designed exclusively for competition shooting. For those that prefer a striker fired pistol for competition, this could be the gun for them. Thank you very much for watching!
you really didn't cover the optics which are amazing.
Yes, still doing my homework on the optic.
What range would you recommend zeroing the red dot? I just bought mine and plan to set up the red dot between 15 and 25 yards. I plan to set up basic zero before range with bore site laser. How did you set yours up?
I zero mine at 20 yards.
@@MDpolo Did you do with laser before range time?
@@mikekelley0773 yes. It minimizes the time that I have to spend at the range zeroing it
nice
Can I get a custom shop to put a front sight on the slide
A competent armor can do pretty much anything so I wouldn’t see why not.
How accurate is this at 50 yards???
I haven’t shot it at 50 yards. Thank you for watching!
Sexy Sig!
It’s still a p320 , no sig polymer guns for me , never agin , too many issues. Now sig p series all metal guns (legion series ) or just plain janes with trigger upgrades now we are talking value reliability accuracy. I don’t collect guns anymore they are all shooters , I enjoy them like my grandkids sometimes three at a time at the range . $1400 buys a lot of pistol, look hard and think hard on this one , just my opinion K
Thank you very much Keith. I appreciate your input and that you took the time to watch. Cheers!
@@MDpolo Always good to hear back from you , you are always into quality , good luck on you quest .
A pistol that comes to mind p225 A1 , most accurate and reliable gun in my safe . If you have not experienced this pistol you must . K
@@keithkent8126 the p225-A1 that is one of my all-time favorites. Love shooting it and I am working on a video on it.
@@MDpolo Wonderful to hear , looking forward to video . It’s great you have one . Most folks count it out because it’s single stack , shot placement people . Another pistol is single action 229 most likely you have one of those too lol!