I cannot explain how much I really like the idea that the boy on the moon in every intro is God watching over his creations . From seeing pandas do kung fu, a boy and his dragon connecting despite being from two different worlds, and other beings from the stars to fight epic battles. The boy creates the Guardians to protect, to watch over life whenever the world needs one.
@@DecemberDaydreams Honestly, that's the least I expect them to do. Those guys should constantly be tearing the fabrics of reality whenever they get the chance.
I’m excited for the Sony Pictures timeline so Officer Earl and Officer Davis can exist in the same universe where vampires and emojis are also just chilling
I just have to say, about Vegard’s critique of the Mona Lisa scene, Da Vinci was PAINTING the Mona Lisa. Not taking a picture of her. The colours in the painting don’t have to be the same as the subject.
as an artist, i can confirm, that sometimes the model comes to the session wearing different clothes than the ones they wore when you started painting....and when you've already started painting the previous outfit, you can't just change it to the new one so you make shit up and hope it works out
Da Vinci also spend over a dozen years on the project and we don’t even know how accurate the painting was to the actual Lisa. Then again it’s fucking Da Vinci and I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a photographic memory and remembered her from the very first day .
I think you should connect megamind to rise of the guardians through the quote “there is no Easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy and there is no queen of England” from Hal once he turned Titan and had Roxanne tied up on the roof. This means that the characters in metro city have heard of the guardians. In rise of the guardians they protect the children and it’s the kids who believe and as you grow up they stop, and new kids replace them. the whole plot of rise of the guardians was getting the kids to believe! Who’s to say Hal didn’t used to believe in the guardians as a kid because he knows about them, like how shrek and the fairytale characters are legends, because the guardians are that old I believe the same rule can apply.
@@I.M.6483not really. He could quit RUclips whenever he feels like it, not tell us anything, and find another job. I’m 99.999% sure he won’t do that but yeah!
If you use the alternate universe theory, technically every movie, book, tv show, franchise, story, could all exist in different universes, which could also include a universe where every universe is just media made for are entertainment.
Vegard is literally the best part of this channel, he has me dying laughing so much lol Also “humpty dumpty’s a bit like Moses” The best quote from seamus ever
I cannot believe that the generic-looking sheep connecting Madagascar and HTTYD somehow is supposed to make more sense than a cow with the *exact same pattern* appearing in both Bee Movie and Monsters vs. Aliens
I would also like to point out that the villain from monsters versus aliens destroyed his planet, and Megamind fled his planet after it was destroyed. This is really good proof that they're the same planet.
The theoriser working this to figure out how powerful of a lovecraftian god mort is is probably the one with the biggest impact since it has had an impact in the versus debate community
Dreamworks has the perfect opportunity to make a Mr Peabody and Sherman sequel where they time travel to a bunch of the different movies trying to save the world or something
One way to connect Rise of the Titans and Megamind is that during the first part of the movie, the place that the opening scene(s) take place in is Metro City (the main setting of Megamind)!
On the Croods, I'd say we can narrow it down to sometime between 100.000 years ago and 30.000 years ago. This is because The Croods are implied to be neanderthals while Guy is meant to be an anatomically modern human, meaning the movie took place in the span of time after anatomically modern humans had expanded out of Africa and began inhabiting areas also inhabited by neanderthals, but before neanderthals themselves went extinct
if only Seamus had watched the tales of arcadia series fully, had he not only got so many more connections but also truly realized the impact of this to the theory. I would love to watch a theory with the tv shows included!
The man in the moon also is canonically fishing in Sharktale as he is shown to be doing right at the beginning of the movie where he has a fishing rod with a worm on it which he throws in the water and then the movie starts with that worm being scared in the ocean.
As a Tales of Arcadia fan, I can say that Merlin wasn't actually introduced in Wizards, he was in season 3 of Trollhunters. He made the amulet. Also, the aliens didn't come to help fight the trolls, they crash landed after their planet was taken over by an evil alien. Also, 3Below and Trollhunters actually take place at the same time, though 3Below takes place later, as the main characters from 3Below appear as side characters in later episodes of Trollhunters, though you don't know they're aliens at that point, and the main new character of Wizards also appeared in Trollhunters but as an even more minor character. Also, one of the episodes of 3Below takes place during the finale of Trollhunters. Wizards takes place after both 3Below and Trollhunters but it actually takes place before that because they time travel to the distant past and get stuck there.
Fun fact! Trollhunters CANNONICALLY takes place in the same universe as Megamind (at the beginning of the movie, you can see the fight takes place in Metrocity, Metroman and Megamind's home)
You could have connected Megamind to Zeus of the Guardians because Hal says “There is no tooth fairy there is no Easter bunny and there is no queen of England” proving that when Hal grew up he stopped believing in the former two
I’m excited for this one because I feel Dreamworks don’t put Easter eggs to their other films as much as Disney or Pixar does so I’m curious on how you’ll try to connect all of the films
@@SeamusGorman4 Yeah you honestly did a great job considering how little Easter eggs their are between Dreamworks films. Also your next universe should be Sony Pictures Animation. I want to see how Spider-Man, Angry Birds, Peter Rabbit, The Smurfs, The Emoji Movie, and Baby Jesus connect in the same universe.
Seamus saying the kid on the moon is god implies that the Penguins of Madagascar are stronger than god, since they take him out in one of the logo intros.
True that's proof that it is a normal human travel back in time AKA Sherman to make them and us as fools to think he's God figure so that means he's no God figure like it just magic from Shrek type.
Quick note: Not sure if anyone else said this, but there are more connections to the Dragons franchise in Tales of Arcadia. 1. Gobber mentions that trolls exist and steal socks in HTTYD, which is confirmed in Trollhunters. 2. The board game Maces and Talons from the Dragons: Race to the Edge series appears in the main character’s basement in Trollhunters. 3. There is a screensaver of Toothless in the first episode of Trollhunters on a computer. 4. The place the trolls live looks a lot like the Hidden World, where the dragons end up.
In Trolls, in the beginning, the trolls replaced themselves with the trolls toys that appear in other movies. The baby Gristle eats one and spits it out.
@@SeamusGorman4 back in march?! wow! the effort and time ahhh you can really tell that you take time w your videos through the quality and pure enjoyment! thank you seamus for your amazing videos :)
You definitely need to watch the rest of All Hail King Julien. The show is a pretty good prequel series to Madagascar, but it’s also a great standalone series even if you haven’t seen the movies.
Wait, but if The Boy on The Moon in the Dreamworks logo at the beginning of each movie is actually a canon part of each movie, then that means that The Penguins of Madagascar attacked God???? And Barry stung God??? And God was abducted by aliens?????
The amount of time and effort put into these videos is really impressive. I’ve been hoping we would get this video since I’m a big fan of (most) Dreamworks movies
There are two instances of hyper-intelligent animals in the Bible I can think of, firstly, Balem's donkey talked at one point (maybe Dinkey's ancestor), and the Serpent which... Wait, is Serpent Curse a DreamWorks movie? Nah, they'd never pick up my screenplay, but that'd work too good actually.
@@captainvader921 I'm pretty sure it said he opened the mouth of the donkey or something, which I interpreted as that he gave the donkey the ability to talk, but its words were its own.
11:31 That is so clever! That makes so much sense for Mr. Peabody and Sherman to have left their mark in a cave in The Croods because they are time travellers! I literally forgot about Mr. Peabody and Sherman and thought no other movie would connect to The Croods.
Kipo, a Netflix show made by Dreamworks could technically connect to this theory, as there is a confirmed Animal Human war, maybe after Kipo's gone, a war strats up again for some reason. Also I actually gasped when Trollhunters was mentioned, I love that show and the movie
The Dreamworks Logo boy also throws a worm on his line that Lenny from Shark Tale interacts with, proving how the logo boy has some sort of interaction with the stories
just a few problems with the troll hunter connections. firstly Camelot can not be in North America because the trolls stowed away on the Mayflower after the battle of Kilahead. secondly, we see visions of Arthur's childhood in Camelot during wizards
But what if it is cause the original name was Far Far Away, Ik shrek gets there by carriage but I think it was a different way to go, just a theory tho
I have personally watched Trollhunters, 3 Below, and Wizards and seeing your confusion was hilarious. It’s about how I expected someone to think about the shows who didn’t watch any of them.
great video seamus! i’ve been watching for a long time and you’ve grown so much as a person and a channel, thank you for letting us be happy for hours.
Id also like to say that the movies that weren't counted still works into the theory in an actually convincing way. So while youd need some sort of cameo or easter egg to properly connect them you still had them in the the theory
Honestly…the bergens in trolls could’ve evolved to be called the trolls as we know in so many other series like troll hunters in three(ish) different ways: 1. The group of bergens (assuming they are a developed species, idk I’ve only seen the first movie) at the end of the first Trolls were so friendly that other bergens outcasted them as being troll lovers and were called trolls degradingly and it just carried on through stories and history or something similar 2. Other Bergens ate so many of the trolls that they were “the new trolls” because you are what you eat(idk about this one, it made more sense in my head) 3. In essence, the trolls and Bergens “become one”. The Bergens are typically blandly colored and grumpy/unhappy from birth, and eat the trolls to be happy, but they find out that they can experience that on their own. Trolls are typically “born” in their colorful and happy life, but can lose their color and liveliness. Since they now know that happiness and grumpiness aren’t definitive on species, they are very similar. Since the literal royalty of the Bergens become friends with the trolls, who’s to say they weren’t declared as one?
as soon I as I heard French people I started bugging out because I am a big fan of the theorizers mort theory I’m glad you bring up that part of it I’m only a couple minutes but that hyped me up
I do like the idea that canonically in DreamWorks animals and humans learn to live in harmony by The Bad Guys, but I'd still like to see Kung Fu Panda as taking place in the past of some alternate Universe. Shrek, I have absolutely no conviction that would ever take place in North America.
Okay, I get it now, the Trolls actually started out in Europe according to the show, they just transported to North America hidden on the boats like the ones in Road to El Dorado.
The only issue I have halfway into the video is Seamus claiming shrek takes place in North America, when it makes much more sense for it to take place in Britain. Yeah, Puss in boots sails over to the kingdom, but he can always do that from spain, Shrek has a scottish accent, and as you said, King Arthur, Merlin (and Camelot via trollhunter) are all present in the Shrek Franchise. And let's not forget how weird it would be for north america have european ethnicities and Fairy Tail Creatures before the colonalisation, and at the point of Spirit only Native americans and the colonizers are present
Starting to wonder how Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken could fit into that timeline. Maybe it would have something to do with the magic and maybe even the fish from Shark Tale.
@@SeamusGorman4 Omg, Seamus you and Vegard are so entertaining. Thank you for making this long form content I can't even imagine how much research you do for us 🙂
@@SeamusGorman4 it absolutely does! You and Vegard have a bond that is so captivating to watch! I absolutely love seeing the dynamic between you two in these videos.
I checked the Christmas Caper short, and unless it's that super grainy black and white photo on the end table when they're walking out of the apartment, there is no "picture of Ginger in Nana's room" as the Trivia tab puts it. There is an Alex plush named Alex, though.
The Penguins of Madagascar having a connection to Dragons and time travel goes beyond the sheep. Considering the multiverse is canon, one could use the Jumpstart Spinoff MMOs as an excuse for one of the timelines. The Multiverse also explains why Marlene is weirdly unaddressed in the Penguins Movie, the main Madagascar films, and companion games, but present in the Nicktoon (only the Nicktoon) and its companion games. There's at least two main Madagascar universes, if not three as they can talk to humans in the spinoff MMO.
I really like this theory however, I noticed a few flaws in the design. For one, it is very clearly stated in "Wizards"(the series before the Trollhunters movie) that the King Arthur vs. magic story takes place in England as the characters do travel to Arcadia (which is in America) in the past and even comment on how they moved halfway around the world in a matter of minutes. This wouldn't line up with the rest of your theory as it would then mean that the Shrek movies take place in England and western Europe ( it's also implied that Puss in Boots takes place in Spain) instead of Medieval America like you proposed. It also doesn't help that "Shrek King Arthur" and "Tales of Arcadia Arthur" have different backstories. Shrek King Arthur is said to be Fiona's cousin and is seen to be very chill with magic whereas Tales of Arcadia Arthur doesn't have a cousin mentioned AND his girlfriend tragically died when they were young, thus his hatred toward magic. Both of these traits aren't mentioned or brought up in either franchise to connect them. This would also then throw a wrench in the How to Train Your Dragon theory too as the third movie ends with all the dragons moving to the Hidden World to hide from humans; and the humans, in turn, eventually forget that dragons even existed as the years go by. This wouldn't make sense as we know that dragons do exist in other parts of the world (less than half a continent away anyway) and live in harmony with humans. We see this in the form of Dragon from Shrek and Archie from the Tales of Arcadia series. And since I just pointed out that both those stories take place in England, humans do know of dragons' existence and they would be very influential to their history and civilization. If anything, only Scandinavia would have lost their dragons but since we see no dragons present in the modern day Dreamworks movies, that presents a problem. Another thing I'd like to point out is that the Bergens look more like Ogres than trolls and since Shrek 4 established that Ogres can exist in different corners of the world, I have no trouble believing that the Bergens are just another race of Ogres from another island that eat the small trolls. Humans could have visited that island at some point and made merchandise off the trolls (which we see in the other Dreamworks movies). And as for the naming thing, they could end up calling the small trolls "trolls" due to a language difference or something. This would mean that the "Trolls" movies would either be canon or exist as movies in-universe with other Dreamworks films like Spirit. It would also make sense for the Bergens to be another race of Ogres as the large Trolls can't survive in sunlight (which we see the Bergens living comfortably in). So there you go, I've removed two franchises off the list and added a new one instead. Of course, please don't take this as me raking on you. I love your videos and I really love the effort and research that went into this one. Keep it up and I can't wait to see what other universe you try to connect. Maybe Sony or Illumination possibly...?
OR....another possible thory is that magic remains hidden...my main example is actually the upcoming movie "Ruby Gilman:Teenage Kraken" in this movie it seems like bother Krakens and Mermaids seemingly blend in with human soscity, unknowst to the humans, kinda like Trollhunter in a way... this could mean that most of the fantasy and fairly tale creatures are just hidden, and maybe this could also explain why the mermaids are evil in the movie, they are tired of being opressed.
Gholy shit I thought the video was going to end at 7:30 and then he said ‘but that is just the beginning’ and I was like ‘oh okay extra details’ THEN I SAW THE 1 HOUR VIDEO LENGTH. I’m in for a ride 🤣
I'm just happy Rise of the Guardians got included! Been my fav ever since it came out and a lot of people don't include or brush over it when talking about Dreamworks movies
Spoilers for How to Train Your Dragon 3 At the end of How to Train Your Dragon 3, the dragons leave to go to a new place. In HTTYD, it is referred to as 'The Edge of the Earth'. But obviously it's not, because the world isn't flat. You could argue it is in the HTTYD universe, but everything still seems to work the same way, it was just their understanding at the time. To explain the easter egg in Home, I think that the 'Edge of the Earth' the dragons were sent to was a portal to another planet/realm, which is what they visited just before Earth, it being close to Earth. Since magic definitely exists, portals aren't that big of a stretch imo. And this is much less of a stretch as your explanation in the video. This also confirms that dragons are all living happily on another planet 1000 years later. Also, SO GLAD you connected Road to El Dorado! I thought that wasn't gonna be possible.
Monsters Vs Aliens explains why a lot of anthropomorphic animals and magical beings and fairytalelike creatures and beings, and magic, etc are not prevalent for a while. Governments for a time were making efforts to conceal such things from much of the world and the rest were either in hiding or isolation from mankind, but after the events of Monsters vs Aliens, things changed and it became necessary to start intograting them into societies.
gosh seamus this video is so fun. i really enjoy these kinds of videos from you, the banter between you and vegard and the lengths you go to to prove your points is literally so amazing. i cant believe you did a whole theology explanation and to be fair i also believe this theory makes sense (maybe even more sense than the pixar theory...)
Fun fact in the first episodes of Troll Hunters it shows the Main character "Jim Lake Jr" is watching How To Train Your Dragon (most likely THE first episode) and they also have tiny trolls/elves?? that sorta look like the ones from the Trolls movie
I cant believe Seamus actually talked about Trollhunters. Absolutely hecking adore that frenchise and I cant believe its canon in the timeline. LETS GOOO
i’d say it never left because i feel like i’ve pretty much been working on this ever since i finished the disney one but apparently it’s almost been 5 months now…..see you again in november!
The implication / outright statement that the Dreamworks Logo is the Abrahamic god is something that I will be thinking about for the rest of time I think
For some reason I love these linking videos. they're long but fun to watch, I hope there's still more you can connect in other franchises! These videos make for good things to do things to, like writing code or similar.
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I’m almost done with all parts. I’m 23 videos in
The best channel on RUclips has arrived.
That's what I thought.
tod
That makes sense
I cannot explain how much I really like the idea that the boy on the moon in every intro is God watching over his creations . From seeing pandas do kung fu, a boy and his dragon connecting despite being from two different worlds, and other beings from the stars to fight epic battles. The boy creates the Guardians to protect, to watch over life whenever the world needs one.
Oooo I love it😊
Also at the beginning of shark tale he’s the one who casts the line with the worm 😅
If he's God, then what are the implications of the Penguins kicking his ass during the Madagascar 2 intro?
@@bubbsterr4967its the madagascar penguins! What, you think they wouldn't find a way to fight god??
@@DecemberDaydreams
Honestly, that's the least I expect them to do. Those guys should constantly be tearing the fabrics of reality whenever they get the chance.
Man really out here connecting Boss baby and The Prince of Egypt.
Bravo.
I Heard that there’s an article in turbo where there are Madagascar characters combining them
The fact that Mario and Gru canonically exist in the same Universe just makes me happy.
Oh wait, wrong video, see you for the Illumination Theory.
I’m excited for the Sony Pictures timeline so Officer Earl and Officer Davis can exist in the same universe where vampires and emojis are also just chilling
oh no no no no no this is where it’s heading isn’t it
@@SeamusGorman4 IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
I need this video sm
@@SeamusGorman4the minions are the key 😅
I just have to say, about Vegard’s critique of the Mona Lisa scene, Da Vinci was PAINTING the Mona Lisa. Not taking a picture of her. The colours in the painting don’t have to be the same as the subject.
Also painting takes so long that the day he painted her expression was probably different than the day he painted her form.
Thank you I came down to the comments do say this if no one had lol
as an artist, i can confirm, that sometimes the model comes to the session wearing different clothes than the ones they wore when you started painting....and when you've already started painting the previous outfit, you can't just change it to the new one so you make shit up and hope it works out
Da Vinci also spend over a dozen years on the project and we don’t even know how accurate the painting was to the actual Lisa. Then again it’s fucking Da Vinci and I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a photographic memory and remembered her from the very first day .
@@godking6504 I think the most da vinci thing would be if she never even existed and she’s his OC lol. Such a quirky fella
I think you should connect megamind to rise of the guardians through the quote “there is no Easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy and there is no queen of England” from Hal once he turned Titan and had Roxanne tied up on the roof.
This means that the characters in metro city have heard of the guardians. In rise of the guardians they protect the children and it’s the kids who believe and as you grow up they stop, and new kids replace them. the whole plot of rise of the guardians was getting the kids to believe! Who’s to say Hal didn’t used to believe in the guardians as a kid because he knows about them, like how shrek and the fairytale characters are legends, because the guardians are that old I believe the same rule can apply.
Oooo i really like this theory!!
That actually makes sense in Hals character and in the universe.
I WAS THINKING THIS TOO!!
my favourite guardian, the queen of england
@@SelkieFrost no one believes in the queen of England anymore
what a DREAM this video is, the theory really WORKS
Yo
That's an eye roll-inducing joke.
Wow! I never heard of that joke before. That's funny, I got to share that with my friends thank you
sick
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The fact that the bee movie is really important to this time line is hilarious!
I have mad respect for Seamus for committing to our entertainment.
It’s his job so no crap.
@@I.M.6483not really. He could quit RUclips whenever he feels like it, not tell us anything, and find another job. I’m 99.999% sure he won’t do that but yeah!
The fact that the boy in the moon is also the Abrahamic god in this universe is sending me.
Before long, Seamus is gonna connect every piece of media to each other.
I am waiting for that video
It’s honestly probably going to be through Santa
Yeah that would be like 5 hour long but we still watch it in one spot
@@Hp_pjo_twilight_hungerGamesFanfor all media 5 hours will be insanely quick
If you use the alternate universe theory, technically every movie, book, tv show, franchise, story, could all exist in different universes, which could also include a universe where every universe is just media made for are entertainment.
Can't believe Mr Peabody and Sherman is the most important part of this timeline, truly the nexus of the universe
Nah Bee movie is the thematic thread. Peabody comes in for the assist
Another banger from Seamus 🙌🏻 love how much work was put into this video
Wassup, Morgan? Love your videos
Hi morgan
Merlin's beard! It's movieflame!
hello
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Vegard is literally the best part of this channel, he has me dying laughing so much lol
Also “humpty dumpty’s a bit like Moses”
The best quote from seamus ever
we were discussing how many things like this might have genuinely been said for the first time in human history while filming this video
also just a random thought, you should do this with the Cartoon Network shows, including total drama
@@Wahooski I mean, that's quite simple as everything links to those bumpers where everyone lives together.
@@Wahooski That's way too easy considering there's literally a crossover that contains references to pretty much every cartoon network show
@@mudkipconoissuer6201But maybe they are from different points on one timeline instead of different universes
That's what we're getting at
I cannot believe that the generic-looking sheep connecting Madagascar and HTTYD somehow is supposed to make more sense than a cow with the *exact same pattern* appearing in both Bee Movie and Monsters vs. Aliens
I dunno if I call that sheep design “generic”, I’d say it’s pretty distinct. But I do agree, the cows literally look the exact same
I would also like to point out that the villain from monsters versus aliens destroyed his planet, and Megamind fled his planet after it was destroyed. This is really good proof that they're the same planet.
Megamind's planet kinda goes into a blackhole dude.
@@A_SandwichManI mean, we don't know HOW Galaxar destroyed his planet, do we?
@@bubbsterr4967it kind of just blew up
The linchpin is that every time animals rise up, there’s a human just waiting there to stop them, with utmost desperation and underhandedness.
Average The Theorist viewer be like
The France. Established. Exterminator. Terminators.
Guys, it's official, we've broken Seamus.
Lol
Seamus: I won’t mention Christianity again
Also Seamus mentions it about as much as possible
The theoriser working this to figure out how powerful of a lovecraftian god mort is is probably the one with the biggest impact since it has had an impact in the versus debate community
Dreamworks has the perfect opportunity to make a Mr Peabody and Sherman sequel where they time travel to a bunch of the different movies trying to save the world or something
Omg, that would actually be so cool 😮
One way to connect Rise of the Titans and Megamind is that during the first part of the movie, the place that the opening scene(s) take place in is Metro City (the main setting of Megamind)!
Fuck Rott's ending though.
@@Tomy_Lightning REAL
On the Croods, I'd say we can narrow it down to sometime between 100.000 years ago and 30.000 years ago. This is because The Croods are implied to be neanderthals while Guy is meant to be an anatomically modern human, meaning the movie took place in the span of time after anatomically modern humans had expanded out of Africa and began inhabiting areas also inhabited by neanderthals, but before neanderthals themselves went extinct
The Theorizer's Mort series is honestly the greatest series I've had the pleasure of following since it's conception 3-4 years ago
I love it so much it really shows the theorizers genuine passion for his art
That guy is unhinged and it's a beautiful genius moment
I think it broke him lmao
58:03 "These are the movies the moon God has reeled in to show us the stories from his universe." - Seamus Gorman 2023
if only Seamus had watched the tales of arcadia series fully, had he not only got so many more connections but also truly realized the impact of this to the theory.
I would love to watch a theory with the tv shows included!
Definitely, tales of Arcadia is amazing
The man in the moon also is canonically fishing in Sharktale as he is shown to be doing right at the beginning of the movie where he has a fishing rod with a worm on it which he throws in the water and then the movie starts with that worm being scared in the ocean.
“Humpty Dumpty’s a bit like Moses” is my favourite Seamus quote
As a Tales of Arcadia fan, I can say that Merlin wasn't actually introduced in Wizards, he was in season 3 of Trollhunters. He made the amulet. Also, the aliens didn't come to help fight the trolls, they crash landed after their planet was taken over by an evil alien. Also, 3Below and Trollhunters actually take place at the same time, though 3Below takes place later, as the main characters from 3Below appear as side characters in later episodes of Trollhunters, though you don't know they're aliens at that point, and the main new character of Wizards also appeared in Trollhunters but as an even more minor character. Also, one of the episodes of 3Below takes place during the finale of Trollhunters. Wizards takes place after both 3Below and Trollhunters but it actually takes place before that because they time travel to the distant past and get stuck there.
Yoooo a fellow Tales of Arcadia enjoyer
Fun fact! Trollhunters CANNONICALLY takes place in the same universe as Megamind (at the beginning of the movie, you can see the fight takes place in Metrocity, Metroman and Megamind's home)
An hour?! [clears schedule for an hour] ...worth it. I'm ready to believe that Seamus and I are also in the same universe.
🤯🤯🤯
The idea of Moses becoming a Guardian like Santa and the Easter Bunny made me laugh way longer than I should've.
You could have connected Megamind to Zeus of the Guardians because Hal says “There is no tooth fairy there is no Easter bunny and there is no queen of England” proving that when Hal grew up he stopped believing in the former two
I’m excited for this one because I feel Dreamworks don’t put Easter eggs to their other films as much as Disney or Pixar does so I’m curious on how you’ll try to connect all of the films
yeah i thought it would be a lot harder too BUT IT REALLY KIND OF WORKS?!?!
@@SeamusGorman4 Yeah you honestly did a great job considering how little Easter eggs their are between Dreamworks films. Also your next universe should be Sony Pictures Animation. I want to see how Spider-Man, Angry Birds, Peter Rabbit, The Smurfs, The Emoji Movie, and Baby Jesus connect in the same universe.
Seamus saying the kid on the moon is god implies that the Penguins of Madagascar are stronger than god, since they take him out in one of the logo intros.
True that's proof that it is a normal human travel back in time AKA Sherman to make them and us as fools to think he's God figure so that means he's no God figure like it just magic from Shrek type.
seamus is the psychopath we never knew we needed
Quick note: Not sure if anyone else said this, but there are more connections to the Dragons franchise in Tales of Arcadia.
1. Gobber mentions that trolls exist and steal socks in HTTYD, which is confirmed in Trollhunters.
2. The board game Maces and Talons from the Dragons: Race to the Edge series appears in the main character’s basement in Trollhunters.
3. There is a screensaver of Toothless in the first episode of Trollhunters on a computer.
4. The place the trolls live looks a lot like the Hidden World, where the dragons end up.
In Trolls, in the beginning, the trolls replaced themselves with the trolls toys that appear in other movies. The baby Gristle eats one and spits it out.
the amount of time seamus spends on his videos is crazy, honestly he needs an applause 👏👏👏
i started researching this back in march so it means a lot to finally get to share this with you and see you all (hopefully) enjoy it!!! thank you :))
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@@SeamusGorman4orry to burst your bubble but uhhhh...... I think this is a bot, maybe, looks like one, but still
@@SeamusGorman4 back in march?! wow! the effort and time ahhh you can really tell that you take time w your videos through the quality and pure enjoyment! thank you seamus for your amazing videos :)
@@burningshadowxd7633 i am not :)
You definitely need to watch the rest of All Hail King Julien. The show is a pretty good prequel series to Madagascar, but it’s also a great standalone series even if you haven’t seen the movies.
Wait, but if The Boy on The Moon in the Dreamworks logo at the beginning of each movie is actually a canon part of each movie, then that means that The Penguins of Madagascar attacked God???? And Barry stung God??? And God was abducted by aliens?????
The amount of time and effort put into these videos is really impressive. I’ve been hoping we would get this video since I’m a big fan of (most) Dreamworks movies
The company is called Dreamworks, children dreams more vividly than grown ups, so the boy in the moon being god makes sence, he makes the dreams work.
There are two instances of hyper-intelligent animals in the Bible I can think of, firstly, Balem's donkey talked at one point (maybe Dinkey's ancestor), and the Serpent which... Wait, is Serpent Curse a DreamWorks movie? Nah, they'd never pick up my screenplay, but that'd work too good actually.
if I remember correctly, the donkey wasn't intelligent, the rider was abusing him, and God was talking through the donkey.
@@captainvader921 I'm pretty sure it said he opened the mouth of the donkey or something, which I interpreted as that he gave the donkey the ability to talk, but its words were its own.
@@r-giireactions2235 yeah, you're probably right
@@captainvader921 Of course my interpretation isn't necessarily canon, but I'ma pretend it is.
"Humpty Dumpty is like Moses"
-Seamus Gorman, 2023.
11:31 That is so clever! That makes so much sense for Mr. Peabody and Sherman to have left their mark in a cave in The Croods because they are time travellers! I literally forgot about Mr. Peabody and Sherman and thought no other movie would connect to The Croods.
I think this is the most unhinged universe storyline I've ever watched and I'm loving it 😂
Kipo, a Netflix show made by Dreamworks could technically connect to this theory, as there is a confirmed Animal Human war, maybe after Kipo's gone, a war strats up again for some reason.
Also I actually gasped when Trollhunters was mentioned, I love that show and the movie
Every time you think "R U Serious" and you and Vegard lock eyes through the camera, you take a drink.
You've heard of the Pixar Theory, now we have the Dreamworks Theory!
The Dreamworks Logo boy also throws a worm on his line that Lenny from Shark Tale interacts with, proving how the logo boy has some sort of interaction with the stories
just a few problems with the troll hunter connections. firstly Camelot can not be in North America because the trolls stowed away on the Mayflower after the battle of Kilahead. secondly, we see visions of Arthur's childhood in Camelot during wizards
But what if it is cause the original name was Far Far Away, Ik shrek gets there by carriage but I think it was a different way to go, just a theory tho
I have personally watched Trollhunters, 3 Below, and Wizards and seeing your confusion was hilarious. It’s about how I expected someone to think about the shows who didn’t watch any of them.
Same! Confused Seamus is the best.
great video seamus! i’ve been watching for a long time and you’ve grown so much as a person and a channel, thank you for letting us be happy for hours.
As an avid Bible-reader, hearing the story of Joseph referred to as a prequel to Moses is just so bizarre and hilarious… I cant explain it
I saw the comment about Mort on the disney video and came to check if the DreamWorks video came out yet AND HERE YOU ARE.
Great timing
Id also like to say that the movies that weren't counted still works into the theory in an actually convincing way. So while youd need some sort of cameo or easter egg to properly connect them you still had them in the the theory
Honestly…the bergens in trolls could’ve evolved to be called the trolls as we know in so many other series like troll hunters in three(ish) different ways:
1. The group of bergens (assuming they are a developed species, idk I’ve only seen the first movie) at the end of the first Trolls were so friendly that other bergens outcasted them as being troll lovers and were called trolls degradingly and it just carried on through stories and history or something similar
2. Other Bergens ate so many of the trolls that they were “the new trolls” because you are what you eat(idk about this one, it made more sense in my head)
3. In essence, the trolls and Bergens “become one”. The Bergens are typically blandly colored and grumpy/unhappy from birth, and eat the trolls to be happy, but they find out that they can experience that on their own. Trolls are typically “born” in their colorful and happy life, but can lose their color and liveliness. Since they now know that happiness and grumpiness aren’t definitive on species, they are very similar. Since the literal royalty of the Bergens become friends with the trolls, who’s to say they weren’t declared as one?
as soon I as I heard French people I started bugging out because I am a big fan of the theorizers mort theory I’m glad you bring up that part of it I’m only a couple minutes but that hyped me up
Just need you to know how much I thoroughly enjoy these videos.
I do like the idea that canonically in DreamWorks animals and humans learn to live in harmony by The Bad Guys, but I'd still like to see Kung Fu Panda as taking place in the past of some alternate Universe. Shrek, I have absolutely no conviction that would ever take place in North America.
Okay, I get it now, the Trolls actually started out in Europe according to the show, they just transported to North America hidden on the boats like the ones in Road to El Dorado.
Far Far Away is basically Hollywood
I think Kipo and The Age Of Wonderbeasts could be argued to be a prequel of Kung Fu Panda if we go along with this theory
The only issue I have halfway into the video is Seamus claiming shrek takes place in North America, when it makes much more sense for it to take place in Britain. Yeah, Puss in boots sails over to the kingdom, but he can always do that from spain, Shrek has a scottish accent, and as you said, King Arthur, Merlin (and Camelot via trollhunter) are all present in the Shrek Franchise. And let's not forget how weird it would be for north america have european ethnicities and Fairy Tail Creatures before the colonalisation, and at the point of Spirit only Native americans and the colonizers are present
"And why did I remove my microwave from my face" - Seamus Gorman
Does that mean the Penguins of Madagascar defeated god!? They straight up snapped his neck in one of the movies.
Its so funny how the way more popular Pixar theory actually makes less sense than this one
Starting to wonder how Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken could fit into that timeline. Maybe it would have something to do with the magic and maybe even the fish from Shark Tale.
Well, Puss in Boots is a cameo in Ruby Gillman, so..
boy on moon being god is so poetic and beautiful im shedding tears
I would love to see you attempt this with Blue Sky Studios
I’m curious if you and Vegard would be able to connect them
They don’t really have a lot of movies so it’d probably be really short
@@Lucid_PZPLwhile yes it would be rather short because they only have 13 movies and a number of shorts, I still think it’d be enjoyable to watch
I am so curious to see if connecting Robots, Epic, Ice Age, Rio, Horton, Peanuts, Spies, and Ferdinand is even possible
@@MarshmallowSketchesmy idea is that robots would be far in the future of the timeline
@@marppram2006 I absolutely agree, and I think spies in disguise would be second to last in the timeline
first video I’ve seen of yours, and it was absolute theory movie chaos.
I LOVED IT
I absolutely love this series! I have watched the Disney and Pixar ones more times than I can count!
I thought I was the only one who kept watching them😂
@@amayahpastoor3503 don’t worry you aren’t! I watch the Disney one at least once a week 😂 Seamus and Vegard are hilarious in that one
ahhh this means so much thank you!! hopefully this one lives up to the hype!!!!
@@SeamusGorman4 Omg, Seamus you and Vegard are so entertaining. Thank you for making this long form content I can't even imagine how much research you do for us 🙂
@@SeamusGorman4 it absolutely does! You and Vegard have a bond that is so captivating to watch! I absolutely love seeing the dynamic between you two in these videos.
I checked the Christmas Caper short, and unless it's that super grainy black and white photo on the end table when they're walking out of the apartment, there is no "picture of Ginger in Nana's room" as the Trivia tab puts it. There is an Alex plush named Alex, though.
The Penguins of Madagascar having a connection to Dragons and time travel goes beyond the sheep.
Considering the multiverse is canon, one could use the Jumpstart Spinoff MMOs as an excuse for one of the timelines.
The Multiverse also explains why Marlene is weirdly unaddressed in the Penguins Movie, the main Madagascar films, and companion games, but present in the Nicktoon (only the Nicktoon) and its companion games. There's at least two main Madagascar universes, if not three as they can talk to humans in the spinoff MMO.
I really like this theory however, I noticed a few flaws in the design.
For one, it is very clearly stated in "Wizards"(the series before the Trollhunters movie) that the King Arthur vs. magic story takes place in England as the characters do travel to Arcadia (which is in America) in the past and even comment on how they moved halfway around the world in a matter of minutes. This wouldn't line up with the rest of your theory as it would then mean that the Shrek movies take place in England and western Europe ( it's also implied that Puss in Boots takes place in Spain) instead of Medieval America like you proposed.
It also doesn't help that "Shrek King Arthur" and "Tales of Arcadia Arthur" have different backstories. Shrek King Arthur is said to be Fiona's cousin and is seen to be very chill with magic whereas Tales of Arcadia Arthur doesn't have a cousin mentioned AND his girlfriend tragically died when they were young, thus his hatred toward magic. Both of these traits aren't mentioned or brought up in either franchise to connect them.
This would also then throw a wrench in the How to Train Your Dragon theory too as the third movie ends with all the dragons moving to the Hidden World to hide from humans; and the humans, in turn, eventually forget that dragons even existed as the years go by. This wouldn't make sense as we know that dragons do exist in other parts of the world (less than half a continent away anyway) and live in harmony with humans. We see this in the form of Dragon from Shrek and Archie from the Tales of Arcadia series. And since I just pointed out that both those stories take place in England, humans do know of dragons' existence and they would be very influential to their history and civilization. If anything, only Scandinavia would have lost their dragons but since we see no dragons present in the modern day Dreamworks movies, that presents a problem.
Another thing I'd like to point out is that the Bergens look more like Ogres than trolls and since Shrek 4 established that Ogres can exist in different corners of the world, I have no trouble believing that the Bergens are just another race of Ogres from another island that eat the small trolls. Humans could have visited that island at some point and made merchandise off the trolls (which we see in the other Dreamworks movies). And as for the naming thing, they could end up calling the small trolls "trolls" due to a language difference or something. This would mean that the "Trolls" movies would either be canon or exist as movies in-universe with other Dreamworks films like Spirit. It would also make sense for the Bergens to be another race of Ogres as the large Trolls can't survive in sunlight (which we see the Bergens living comfortably in).
So there you go, I've removed two franchises off the list and added a new one instead. Of course, please don't take this as me raking on you. I love your videos and I really love the effort and research that went into this one. Keep it up and I can't wait to see what other universe you try to connect. Maybe Sony or Illumination possibly...?
I started laughing so hard when Seamus said the boy on the moon was maybe Matty Healy lol 😂😂😂😂 this was a fantastic video!!!
OR....another possible thory is that magic remains hidden...my main example is actually the upcoming movie "Ruby Gilman:Teenage Kraken" in this movie it seems like bother Krakens and Mermaids seemingly blend in with human soscity, unknowst to the humans, kinda like Trollhunter in a way... this could mean that most of the fantasy and fairly tale creatures are just hidden, and maybe this could also explain why the mermaids are evil in the movie, they are tired of being opressed.
Imagine if Chicken Run 2 were to connect literally every single movie that has no connection to the timeline, that would be the optimal universe
Gholy shit I thought the video was going to end at 7:30 and then he said ‘but that is just the beginning’ and I was like ‘oh okay extra details’ THEN I SAW THE 1 HOUR VIDEO LENGTH. I’m in for a ride 🤣
The SCB sent me here to say hi and to remind you how much you love trains 😅
Was literally about to type this!!!
“Humpty Dumpty is just like Moses” was probably the funniest thing I’ve heard all week
Considering the company, I don’t see how they’d not be connected
I think we need Seamus to just explain every TV/ film Universe this way!
Oddly enough I would like him to explain the MCU as if his nor veagard have seen it.I think that’d be funny but maybe too easy I guess
I'm just happy Rise of the Guardians got included! Been my fav ever since it came out and a lot of people don't include or brush over it when talking about Dreamworks movies
watching this is just me remembering these movies exist and then going “oh this would be great to watch 🍃”
Don’t forget the boy on the moon starts the plot of shark tale by fishing the work the sharks almost eat
“maybe the boy in the moon is Matty Healy” Seamus i’m DEAD 💀
Spoilers for How to Train Your Dragon 3
At the end of How to Train Your Dragon 3, the dragons leave to go to a new place. In HTTYD, it is referred to as 'The Edge of the Earth'. But obviously it's not, because the world isn't flat. You could argue it is in the HTTYD universe, but everything still seems to work the same way, it was just their understanding at the time. To explain the easter egg in Home, I think that the 'Edge of the Earth' the dragons were sent to was a portal to another planet/realm, which is what they visited just before Earth, it being close to Earth. Since magic definitely exists, portals aren't that big of a stretch imo. And this is much less of a stretch as your explanation in the video. This also confirms that dragons are all living happily on another planet 1000 years later.
Also, SO GLAD you connected Road to El Dorado! I thought that wasn't gonna be possible.
Monsters Vs Aliens explains why a lot of anthropomorphic animals and magical beings and fairytalelike creatures and beings, and magic, etc are not prevalent for a while. Governments for a time were making efforts to conceal such things from much of the world and the rest were either in hiding or isolation from mankind, but after the events of Monsters vs Aliens, things changed and it became necessary to start intograting them into societies.
I appreciated the Joseph and the amazing technicolor dreamcoat joke/reference very much actually lol
gosh seamus this video is so fun. i really enjoy these kinds of videos from you, the banter between you and vegard and the lengths you go to to prove your points is literally so amazing. i cant believe you did a whole theology explanation and to be fair i also believe this theory makes sense (maybe even more sense than the pixar theory...)
Fun fact in the first episodes of Troll Hunters it shows the Main character "Jim Lake Jr" is watching How To Train Your Dragon (most likely THE first episode) and they also have tiny trolls/elves?? that sorta look like the ones from the Trolls movie
I cant believe Seamus actually talked about Trollhunters. Absolutely hecking adore that frenchise and I cant believe its canon in the timeline. LETS GOOO
It's so underrated. I was really surprised when he mentioned it
Headcanon: The boy on the moon isn't in the Tales of Arcadia franchise because he is so ashamed of creating Akiridion reproduction
I love this series 😂 so glad it's back!!
i’d say it never left because i feel like i’ve pretty much been working on this ever since i finished the disney one but apparently it’s almost been 5 months now…..see you again in november!
@@SeamusGorman4 however long it is, it will definitely be worth the wait! take your time with it though/don't overwork yourself :)
if i was a human living in phase 5B i would be pissed considering the world has been invaded by aliens multiple times, also i love that crop top
my favorite dynamic on youtube- seamus connecting the most unhinged and niche dots between movies and vegard being absolutely flabergasted by it
Seeing the sped up clip of The Croods running in a Seamus video was unexpected. I love that clip it's hilarious
The implication / outright statement that the Dreamworks Logo is the Abrahamic god is something that I will be thinking about for the rest of time I think
You keep descending into insanity... I love it
For some reason I love these linking videos. they're long but fun to watch, I hope there's still more you can connect in other franchises!
These videos make for good things to do things to, like writing code or similar.
Same
Can't believe The Guardians didn't even try to stop the alien invasions, though.