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how am i gonna train like i should following your advice when there are no powerbatics communities in our country that i know of coach Lee? i wanna do what you do, but i wanna do it under your watchful eye so i can learn from you everything that i need to do.... and not do😔
I disagree. How do you know strength/athleticism isn’t being gained when doing calisthenics? It’s anecdotal and subjective. For me personally, I gained immense strength, mobility, flexibility, and athleticism once I started doing cali’s 13mo ago and been weight lifting for 15 years. I love your videos but this one didn’t do anything for me.
He never said those things won't be built he is basically saying add variety to your workouts you may be able to do a hollow body hold but can u mirror it with a back bridge? Powerbatics training will definitely help you with Cali and lifting.
It's all individual. For me it answers the question I've been asking myself lately. I'm training calisthenics for about 1 year, now I feel weaker after every session. My training focussed to much on one specific point instead of movement itself, now I know for sure..
1. Athleticism is typically referring to competitive sport or one's ability to perform at that level and not fitness/exercise. Strength, flexibility, and mobility are but singular aspects, in addition to power (a form of strength), skill (strength applied), and sustainability (strength over long term). This is part of the problem many see in Crossfit, i.e. that they tried to turn fitness into a sport. It's just not the same thing. Sport has a high degree of variability and unpredictability, which traditional calisthenics (not freestyle or competitive) as a modality of *fitness* simply does not have, which is why we use Ninja Strength (similar to calisthenics) as but 1 element of Powerbatics training. We understood its 1-dimensionality from the very get-go. And that's part of why we built katas into each element...to foster the other aspects of strength such as skill, sustainability, etc. 2. If by anecdotal and subjective you mean 1000's of data points, 1000's of students (many of whom are competitive athletes and performers), and nearly a decade officially (unofficially 30 years of teaching)...then sure 😂 3. Glad you like the videos. Don't miss the point in this one. Hope this reply helps clarify for the masses. Btw, nobody really needs to get bent out of shape...train however you want, it's not the end of the world.
That's why I am practising not only calisthenics but animal flow, breakdancing, inline skating, capoeira, tai chi even juggling and now powerbatics. All these things are developing you in so many different ways.
Why you do this to me... I might as well stop exercise completely because now imt so confused. Everyone has something new to say to bring all my training and experience back to square one with hard questions. I think I'm just gonna give up watching RUclips. ☠️ Everything is bad for my gains now.
I agree that calisthenics culture is dogmatic about maintaining strict form and most movements are performed in the sagittal plane with little focus on transverse and other rotations. This has become a much more pronounced issue for me over the last year. Calisthenics should be about building strength and dynamism in movements, and increasing range of motion and achieving your bodies optimal functional potential. Ring based Gymnastics is the closest and ancestoral relative to calisthenics and is about connecting skills and allowing things to flow in a rhthym and unfortunately this was lost somewhere in the evolutionary path, and isometric skill movements are seen as the pinnacle of calisthenic success.
Interesting, are you saying that calisthenics was the ancestor of gymnastics? I always thought the opposite. My training combines bits of both and some weights.
Complete approach. As they say cover all bases, but I guess you could say cover all tendons, ligaments etc. I spent years just lifting weights. Back 3 months lifting weights after 8 years off, microdisectomy L5-S1, back is tight, use to seize up every now and again, I’d hardly be able to move for a week, carnivore diet 6 months, inflammation has gone and back feels a lot better but still tight. just had MRI neck have 2 minor- moderate budging discs C3-C4 & C5-C6. I’ve been watching your vids for almost a week, signed up, my lower back is stiff & I admit very weak core, can’t even do a back bridge, flexion is poor. Just got to start very basics, making lists and working out progressions from your videos. Superman, bridges, reverse grip hangs, hollow holds. Thanks again
You complicating this for me, now I don't know what to do. Thanks! I just want to look good and be strong, being strong as having strength. Now I'm lost
Thanks Lee, you really put some good things into perspective and I totally agree with you. As you always say you're only as strong as your weakest link. I've experienced this time and time again with many different injuries and I am someone who tries to work on every part of my body and always challenged it and new ways to keep getting stronger
Tried some of the beginner katas, they are killer! But by working on many of the athletics statics those katas can improve, I think calisthenics is just a modern word for part of athletics, which give a great base to develop more smart training systems, and this can not be a bad thing in my humble opinion, any way thank you for inspiration 🙌💪
How did katas go? Basically I'm trying to share more depth that connects movement, coordination, etc. so people can understand how to get to higher, more creative levels. Static, calisthenics-oriented like Ninja Strength, etc. are just a small piece of the puzzle.
@@LeeWeilandI’m so impressed by the holistic method you share, with my little background in yoga, I can say that you are an advocate of an amazing approach with combination of explosive movement with hardcore training and flexibility.
Hello, Lee Wieland, the Calisthenics Guru! Greetings from the charming Menomonie, WI, a stone's throw away from the booming Eau Claire, the 4th fastest-growing city in the U.S.! It's fascinating to watch your videos, but it's also a bit bittersweet. You see, we're missing out on a key ingredient - a dedicated gym to put those teachings into practice. How fantastic would it be to have a vibrant calisthenics haven right here? Imagine the ripples it could create in our health-conscious community! 🎉👍
I came across a guru once stating you should not follow just a single guru and expect them to guide you through your entire life. This video is essentially echoing that statement. Be your own guru people and seek out the wisdom of others. Thanks Lee, I knew you were a great coach.
And that's the way we structured our training...it's not just me coaching people it's a team so if there's things a person needs other PT's who know it better can hop in.
@@LeeWeiland Yeah, even a print-out PDF or ring-bound book with basic photos, organized by progressive movements would be a nice thing. Trying to avoid screens while doing workouts, but following along with the videos or writing down the progressions/katas is cumbersome. I know, I know it's an excuse, but - just sayin', someone would buy the book ;)
I just finished an offload weak and decided to hit a frog stand while watching this. I Accidently leaned too far forward and had to hit a bent arm tuck handstand in a split second to control it and avoid a face plant. That ninja strength is no joke 😂Great vid Lee👍🏿👍🏿
Nice. I say things are "magic" because students often "accidentally" hit new moves. Example: front flip and as soon as you land hop half turn. Students will accidentally start landing front flip half twist. There's hundreds of these examples and frog stand is one. Frog stand for 60 seconds a day beats wall handstand every time. But people won't do the boring silly looking stuff.
Can I do them in home because I’m have super social anxiety and depression but I want to work out and become more healthy because I’m fat skinny and I think my body isn’t great looking
Combining the building of strength in the basics, weight training, bodybuilding and those Katas you mentioned sounds pretty good to me. Stacking this on top of some sort of martial art would build me a pretty damn athletic physique. Would a more freestyle approach to those Katas be an appropriate or good alternative however? And how about weak link training? Overloading exercises and positions that a majority would deem dangerous, what are your thoughts on that?
Calestnics is at least using th3 hole b9dy and core all9ng with any exercise hich is lack8ng big time in power lifting that's isolating muscles 2hich is lese than one dimension
Hello Lee, I am writing to you here as I filled out a Linked In application to a remote video editing position for your company Pacific Rim Athletics. I just wanted to confirm with you if this is in fact a legitimate position coming out of your company as I have some suspicions. Thank you so much.
This modern world we live in is destroying me does anyone else in the western world want a total culture change? i wish there was some kind of retreat, group of people or different city i can move to where theres no internet, no fast food, active lifestyle and physical labour job. Theres so much corporate greed, fast food restaurants, beer stores and junk bombarded in our face today and its destroying people
Suggestions for those of us folks who can't afford to come down to train? ie. Anyone from Canada? Aside from finding a community and coach with ur lvl of experience, resources and discipline?
This video got to me. I hit a wall with weightlifting. The same wall I hit with Yoga - the moves are isolated and improvement is on apparently within the limited range of the exercises. Calisthenics seemed to be a better direction for me, but you're right - it is still isolated and geared towards the "peak" moves like muscle up, planche, front-lever, etc.
The program reminds me of Ginastica Natural and Integral Bambu. The former, a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu sólo movement and mobility based flow incorporating animal and gymnastics like movements conducive to grappling athleticism. The latter is a system of navigating through a complex bamboo pole structure with one’s whole body requiring strength, agility, and momentum, clinging at times and fluid whole body motions at other times. This is also rooted in Brazilian workout culture.
hello @LeeWeiland i train 6 days a week i do a push pull legs calisthenics ofc but should i do holds on one day and motion in another day for example frogpose and some other holds on Munday and on Thursdays i do different types of pushups or should i just mise them together and time is not a problem for me btw
So would calisthenics still work if I don’t isolate training like all on the bar I do a muscle up into a planche at the top and then go into a crab stance on top
@@LeeWeilandI believe what they mean is could slight modifications to calisthenics exercises be effective for the goal of building “total body strength”.
Where? I rarely even use the word "calisthenics." It's just a tool, and a tool can be used for good or bad. We teach Powerbatics...and Ninja Strength (similar to calisthenics) is just 1 element therein.
How can I prevent tendonitis, that's my biggest obstacle that always sets me way back when I'm in the middle of training. Training according to body feeling doesn't work I never really get muscle soreness and have no useful feedback from the body on how long I need to take a break. My new approach now is to create a sophisticated training plan and stay 30% below muscle failure in 90% of the training time. Do you have any experience with this? Your athletes do training that looks extremely hard and super prone to tendonitis.
🛑 Don't miss the point of this video. Free Training: www.pacificrimathletics.com/online-reg?el=yt-calisthentics-is-bad Don't mistake videos for instruction. Positive vibes ONLY. Subscribe so you can make progress. See you in training.
how am i gonna train like i should following your advice when there are no powerbatics communities in our country that i know of coach Lee?
i wanna do what you do, but i wanna do it under your watchful eye so i can learn from you everything that i need to do.... and not do😔
Don't let the title fool you. The main idea is to fill in the gaps where calisthenics fails (he says this himself later in the vid).
Thanks for being here
I disagree. How do you know strength/athleticism isn’t being gained when doing calisthenics? It’s anecdotal and subjective. For me personally, I gained immense strength, mobility, flexibility, and athleticism once I started doing cali’s 13mo ago and been weight lifting for 15 years. I love your videos but this one didn’t do anything for me.
He never said those things won't be built he is basically saying add variety to your workouts you may be able to do a hollow body hold but can u mirror it with a back bridge? Powerbatics training will definitely help you with Cali and lifting.
It's all individual. For me it answers the question I've been asking myself lately. I'm training calisthenics for about 1 year, now I feel weaker after every session. My training focussed to much on one specific point instead of movement itself, now I know for sure..
@@weichseltraut thx for the input and good luck on your journey.
1. Athleticism is typically referring to competitive sport or one's ability to perform at that level and not fitness/exercise. Strength, flexibility, and mobility are but singular aspects, in addition to power (a form of strength), skill (strength applied), and sustainability (strength over long term). This is part of the problem many see in Crossfit, i.e. that they tried to turn fitness into a sport. It's just not the same thing. Sport has a high degree of variability and unpredictability, which traditional calisthenics (not freestyle or competitive) as a modality of *fitness* simply does not have, which is why we use Ninja Strength (similar to calisthenics) as but 1 element of Powerbatics training. We understood its 1-dimensionality from the very get-go. And that's part of why we built katas into each element...to foster the other aspects of strength such as skill, sustainability, etc.
2. If by anecdotal and subjective you mean 1000's of data points, 1000's of students (many of whom are competitive athletes and performers), and nearly a decade officially (unofficially 30 years of teaching)...then sure 😂
3. Glad you like the videos. Don't miss the point in this one. Hope this reply helps clarify for the masses.
Btw, nobody really needs to get bent out of shape...train however you want, it's not the end of the world.
I like this guys approach to be passionate but also then not care either
That's why I am practising not only calisthenics but animal flow, breakdancing, inline skating, capoeira, tai chi even juggling and now powerbatics. All these things are developing you in so many different ways.
There ya go
True approach👍💪
Have you time for life, work, studies, meditations?!
@@RedZambala this is life if you have not noticed.
People don't realize how much they can do in a day
Why you do this to me... I might as well stop exercise completely because now imt so confused.
Everyone has something new to say to bring all my training and experience back to square one with hard questions.
I think I'm just gonna give up watching RUclips. ☠️
Everything is bad for my gains now.
Don't miss the point
@@LeeWeiland I'm blonde, so it's too late for that. 🤣
Ok
I agree that calisthenics culture is dogmatic about maintaining strict form and most movements are performed in the sagittal plane with little focus on transverse and other rotations. This has become a much more pronounced issue for me over the last year. Calisthenics should be about building strength and dynamism in movements, and increasing range of motion and achieving your bodies optimal functional potential. Ring based Gymnastics is the closest and ancestoral relative to calisthenics and is about connecting skills and allowing things to flow in a rhthym and unfortunately this was lost somewhere in the evolutionary path, and isometric skill movements are seen as the pinnacle of calisthenic success.
Good post. You could help write our videos.
Interesting, are you saying that calisthenics was the ancestor of gymnastics? I always thought the opposite. My training combines bits of both and some weights.
Just train
Thought the title was click bait, stuck around, subscribed. Great insights and application of principles!
Perfect
Complete approach. As they say cover all bases, but I guess you could say cover all tendons, ligaments etc. I spent years just lifting weights. Back 3 months lifting weights after 8 years off, microdisectomy L5-S1, back is tight, use to seize up every now and again, I’d hardly be able to move for a week, carnivore diet 6 months, inflammation has gone and back feels a lot better but still tight. just had MRI neck have 2 minor- moderate budging discs C3-C4 & C5-C6. I’ve been watching your vids for almost a week, signed up, my lower back is stiff & I admit very weak core, can’t even do a back bridge, flexion is poor. Just got to start very basics, making lists and working out progressions from your videos. Superman, bridges, reverse grip hangs, hollow holds.
Thanks again
It sounds great but I’m 80 years old with a bad right knee and left shoulder but they are gradually getting better. So where’s your facility?
Dankjewel Lee:) Nu begonnen met free training:) Gr. Michel uit Holland:)
Cool
Thank You! I need strength in those areas, badly. Now I truly understand! Thank You
So what's freestyle calisthenics? Because that's all dynamics and transitions
Purposeful
You complicating this for me, now I don't know what to do. Thanks! I just want to look good and be strong, being strong as having strength. Now I'm lost
Being lost is the way to new discovery.
From what I can take from all of this is just don’t limit yourself when it comes to training. That’s all.
Thanks Lee, you really put some good things into perspective and I totally agree with you. As you always say you're only as strong as your weakest link. I've experienced this time and time again with many different injuries and I am someone who tries to work on every part of my body and always challenged it and new ways to keep getting stronger
Awesome, thanks for being here
Better more well rounded more fun things can be done
Tried some of the beginner katas, they are killer! But by working on many of the athletics statics those katas can improve, I think calisthenics is just a modern word for part of athletics, which give a great base to develop more smart training systems, and this can not be a bad thing in my humble opinion, any way thank you for inspiration 🙌💪
How did katas go? Basically I'm trying to share more depth that connects movement, coordination, etc. so people can understand how to get to higher, more creative levels. Static, calisthenics-oriented like Ninja Strength, etc. are just a small piece of the puzzle.
@@LeeWeiland tried to jump 360 degrees from the horse stand and it was really challenging for me )) a did not have the coordination to do so )
@@LeeWeilandI’m so impressed by the holistic method you share, with my little background in yoga, I can say that you are an advocate of an amazing approach with combination of explosive movement with hardcore training and flexibility.
Right on
This is interesting. I'm getting into calisthenics to help with my pole journey. Joint mobility is a MUST. Definitely going to subscribe
Love and appreciate the knowledge your passing on to guys like me who looking for a new way of training. Keep it up man
Right on
this video was quite insightful and inspirational, thanks for sharing this.
So Great! Thank you Lee! ♡
Thanks for being here
Hello, Lee Wieland, the Calisthenics Guru! Greetings from the charming Menomonie, WI, a stone's throw away from the booming Eau Claire, the 4th fastest-growing city in the U.S.! It's fascinating to watch your videos, but it's also a bit bittersweet. You see, we're missing out on a key ingredient - a dedicated gym to put those teachings into practice. How fantastic would it be to have a vibrant calisthenics haven right here? Imagine the ripples it could create in our health-conscious community! 🎉👍
Where? Jk
It’s not too small😁
Lol
I came across a guru once stating you should not follow just a single guru and expect them to guide you through your entire life. This video is essentially echoing that statement. Be your own guru people and seek out the wisdom of others. Thanks Lee, I knew you were a great coach.
And that's the way we structured our training...it's not just me coaching people it's a team so if there's things a person needs other PT's who know it better can hop in.
You nneed to make powerbatics tutorial videos now.
Get proper training
Is training calisthenic until become master can be good for martial arts? I mean, for fighting preparation
Not really...calisthenics is too linear
Personally I have found from experience both weights and Calisthenics are essential for strength and mobility.
They're both helpful tools but the scope of the video is beyond that
@LeeWeiland Understood. BTW. Have you considered writing a book on, say, the very basics? I think it would be great.
Not really. I like making videos. Maybe one day we'll make a multi-volume set of books or something.
@@LeeWeiland Put me down for a copy/copies. 🙂 Love your site.
@@LeeWeiland Yeah, even a print-out PDF or ring-bound book with basic photos, organized by progressive movements would be a nice thing. Trying to avoid screens while doing workouts, but following along with the videos or writing down the progressions/katas is cumbersome. I know, I know it's an excuse, but - just sayin', someone would buy the book ;)
I just finished an offload weak and decided to hit a frog stand while watching this. I Accidently leaned too far forward and had to hit a bent arm tuck handstand in a split second to control it and avoid a face plant. That ninja strength is no joke 😂Great vid Lee👍🏿👍🏿
Nice. I say things are "magic" because students often "accidentally" hit new moves. Example: front flip and as soon as you land hop half turn. Students will accidentally start landing front flip half twist. There's hundreds of these examples and frog stand is one. Frog stand for 60 seconds a day beats wall handstand every time. But people won't do the boring silly looking stuff.
@@LeeWeiland 100% 🔥
🥷💪
@@LeeWeiland I respect how you're so interactive in the comments it always surprises me 😂
Right on
But coach Lee isn't all of that in essence typically called calisthenics?
Nope
Can I do them in home because I’m have super social anxiety and depression but I want to work out and become more healthy because I’m fat skinny and I think my body isn’t great looking
Don't worry about anything...you're a masterpiece
where is this trainings place
Combining the building of strength in the basics, weight training, bodybuilding and those Katas you mentioned sounds pretty good to me. Stacking this on top of some sort of martial art would build me a pretty damn athletic physique.
Would a more freestyle approach to those Katas be an appropriate or good alternative however?
And how about weak link training? Overloading exercises and positions that a majority would deem dangerous, what are your thoughts on that?
Learn organized training first before freestyle anything
Calestnics is at least using th3 hole b9dy and core all9ng with any exercise hich is lack8ng big time in power lifting that's isolating muscles 2hich is lese than one dimension
Yep
Hello Lee, I am writing to you here as I filled out a Linked In application to a remote video editing position for your company Pacific Rim Athletics. I just wanted to confirm with you if this is in fact a legitimate position coming out of your company as I have some suspicions. Thank you so much.
Yes we are seeking a highly qualified video editor. However, there is also scams that happen through Indeed so watch out.
And no it is not from Linked In. Our job is on Indeed.
@@LeeWeiland Okay, I did apply on Linked In, so I guess that was a scam. If you are looking for a video editor I am interested, where would I apply?
We advertise through Indeed
so should i make a session involving all my skills and just mess around doing stuff that develops my skills more to actual situations
There's a balance between systemization and organic
This modern world we live in is destroying me does anyone else in the western world want a total culture change? i wish there was some kind of retreat, group of people or different city i can move to where theres no internet, no fast food, active lifestyle and physical labour job. Theres so much corporate greed, fast food restaurants, beer stores and junk bombarded in our face today and its destroying people
I shared this with our team. It's a good reminder of the mission and vision of our company.
Suggestions for those of us folks who can't afford to come down to train? ie. Anyone from Canada? Aside from finding a community and coach with ur lvl of experience, resources and discipline?
This video got to me. I hit a wall with weightlifting. The same wall I hit with Yoga - the moves are isolated and improvement is on apparently within the limited range of the exercises. Calisthenics seemed to be a better direction for me, but you're right - it is still isolated and geared towards the "peak" moves like muscle up, planche, front-lever, etc.
Online Training with my team. Msg them and they'll help you.
The program reminds me of Ginastica Natural and Integral Bambu. The former, a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu sólo movement and mobility based flow incorporating animal and gymnastics like movements conducive to grappling athleticism. The latter is a system of navigating through a complex bamboo pole structure with one’s whole body requiring strength, agility, and momentum, clinging at times and fluid whole body motions at other times. This is also rooted in Brazilian workout culture.
Skills then dynacombos then katas...powerful movement
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾
3:25 War Eagle!
🥷💪
Parkour and tricking are better then :))
In some regards yes. But the wear and tear on joints will require upkeep through a Ninja Strength style training.
hello @LeeWeiland i train 6 days a week i do a push pull legs calisthenics ofc but should i do holds on one day and motion in another day for example frogpose and some other holds on Munday and on Thursdays i do different types of pushups or should i just mise them together and time is not a problem for me btw
Ok
So would calisthenics still work if I don’t isolate training like all on the bar I do a muscle up into a planche at the top and then go into a crab stance on top
Still work?
@@LeeWeilandI believe what they mean is could slight modifications to calisthenics exercises be effective for the goal of building “total body strength”.
Modifications aren't necessary...I think the point is being missed...I'll work on being more clear in future videos
Struggling with the back bridge twist in lvl 1 handstand kata - reckon prolly need my hands under my shoulder more...
Yes that's typical. Usually shoulder and upper spine mobility.
Thank you for your reply, much appreciated 🙏
Thanks for being here
Man you look like Damien Tomaso (Cyril Raffaelli) from District 13 ;D
Cyril was one of my influences for freerunning. Solid singular flips.
Very useful!
Perfect
But you have a lot of videos saying chalistenics is very good.
Where? I rarely even use the word "calisthenics." It's just a tool, and a tool can be used for good or bad. We teach Powerbatics...and Ninja Strength (similar to calisthenics) is just 1 element therein.
@@LeeWeiland Ok maybe not using the word chalistenics but you have a lot of videos on the "V stance" for example.
V stand is just a human static position
Great video
Where can i watch the handstand moves you described?
They're sprinkled throughout our videos and channels.
@@LeeWeiland is there a video which sums them up?
Released tomorrow on powerbatics channel
Yes, I agree.
Learning some calisthenic tricks not enough.
Running 1min should be better.
Thanks for being here
How can I prevent tendonitis, that's my biggest obstacle that always sets me way back when I'm in the middle of training. Training according to body feeling doesn't work I never really get muscle soreness and have no useful feedback from the body on how long I need to take a break. My new approach now is to create a sophisticated training plan and stay 30% below muscle failure in 90% of the training time. Do you have any experience with this? Your athletes do training that looks extremely hard and super prone to tendonitis.
Same here. 😩
Static isometric or overcoming isometrics for the specific area.
Fair
Thanks for being here
That is why I do calisthenics and capoeira. ^_^
Good elements
How long is training? I need the full works.
We have students up to 8 years running now...like Vennie
After so many years I finally see something new 😳😯
Awesome
Wow. Voltron...😁
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