They chose the most meaningless stats to TRY and compare Bryce Harper to Barry Bonds. Over their first five or six years years, Barry Bonds averaged more hits, runs, doubles, triples, stolen bases, and total bases-- to name a few. All stats that truly matter. And Bonds was a much better defensive player. This comparison by the Baseball Network was a sneaky and unfair way to put Harper on the same level as Bonds. You are not fooling me or anyone else who truly knows baseball.
Only in hitting. Bonds on top of being the best offensive player in the National League in his prime, was also the best Left Fielder in the NL,and had some of the best speed in all of baseball. Harper is not Bonds... yet. If he wins a couple of gold gloves and steals 40 bases while also hitting 40 home runs, then we'll talk.
aviator259 Being Bonds is more than just being the best offensive player. Bonds was the best defensively and was one of the fastest in the game. Yeah he's not.., yet, He can be one day but certainly not now.
Cameron Harbaruk Yeah he did steroids. Evidence points at that it began in 2000 and likely went on for the rest of his career. He also won 3 MVP awards before that and 7 gold gloves and his 40-40 season also occurred before that. Bonds was one of the greatest ever regardless of the fact that he did steroids. Harper is not Bonds... yet. I never said he couldn't be but that being Bonds is more than just offense.
+Bulldog Baseball he hit 73 HRs in 2001 and batted .370 in 2002 AFTER he took steroids. before he took steroids Harper has batter stats that's why I said Harper is a better hitter than bonds was. he had to cheat, that's why he'll never be in the hall of fame
I don’t understand this trend where batting average is now unimportant. To me it’s the second most important stat to driving in runs. Do you get on base. Extend the inning, give your teammates a chance to create runs, drive in runs yourself and move runners ahead. People never talk about average and it’s one of the most important things. Most power hitter will avg 40-50 ones will striking g out 180x per year and hitting .260 but want 20-30M per season. Naw, if im a owner than I’m not burning my money on a one trick pony
Um average is like 5th important obp is a better average because it ways walks and ops is a great start also to weight players then u go to ops+ then homers and RBIs that's why they make big bucks yeah they hit 260 but they have a 350 obp an 800 slugging and a 150 ops+ with 35 bombs and 100 RBIs that's an elite player
Mr. Platinum it’s not an elite player at all. It can be a good player but an elite player regularly hits .300 while doing all those other things (prime Pujols, Bonds, A Rod, and Trout) are elite
***** Nononono, definitely most peopel who have a sense in baseball knowledge know you can't even compare Harper to Bonds to how different one's numbers is to the other's consistent career numbers
Did either of you watch the video? He was putting it into context of age, and showing how Harper's 2015 did indeed compare with Barry's natural prime years, at least in hitting. Obviously he doesn't steal bases the way young Barry did, but this was about hitting prowess and position player WAR
Dr.Beef a lot of people have put up similar numbers though, but barry bonds went from 460 slugging to over 800 by the end of his career, its insane to imply that Bryce Harper will ever do that.
Let's compare him now. did you see what season he had? he is not worthy of this hype. the guy had only one good season. the best player out there is trout. average, ops, slug percentage, hrs, rbi, sb and defense.
2020 Bryce is doing pretty good... Bryce may not be Barry Bond's on a career level but his 2016 MVP season was very similar. Plus their swings are very similar excluding thier "hitch".
way too early to compare the two, but i get it. baseball wants a basketball like thing going where they compare greats to greats. still, in my eyes, i don't think anyone is going to eclipse bond's skills for the game.
Don't like Harper much (he's overrated and still hasn't proven anything) but he's much better for baseball unless you condone drug use to improve and prolong performance and then watch them surpass hall of famers who didn't use drugs to be a hall of famer. Until baseball does something conclusive to remove the drug users from the record books all comparison's will be moot when bringing up people like Bonds.
@@jamescarey480 I agree with u but I think they're important to they're just not the be all end all for me I look at obp ops and ops+ first then homers doudles and RBIs I will check war sometimes and I respect war as a stat but I think sometimes people put way to much value in it
Barry bonds and Bryce Harper are 2 entirely different hitters. Harper is a legend in the making. Barry bonds IS THE ALL TIME HOME RUN LEADER WITH 762 CAREER HOME RUNS. No one will ever Reach 700 Homers ever again. Not a single person.
Babe Ruth and Willie Mays are the only 2 players to "cleanly" hit over 650 career home runs. Bonds, Aaron, Rodriguez and Pujols all admitted to using PEDs. Willie Mays however, it was legal at the time, so TECHNICALLY Babe Ruth is the only person to "cleanly" hit over 650/700 career home runs. Yes i am defending Bryce (Dilly Dilly) and im not saying Bonds is terrible but if he didnt use PEDs he would have never put up the numbers he did.
@@troy7776 Wait a minute. Hank Aaron most certainly didn't take performance enhancing drugs neither pujols. But Bonds and Arod yes. Alex Rodriguez however cheated 3 times. If Hank Aaron did P.E.D.S, where is the proof? Ruth, Mays, And Aaron are all hall of famers. Pujols probably took performance enhancing drugs. But where is the proof? I'm not mad at you just confused.
@@rougedemoncollects5239 "Classy Hank Aaron, the guy every baseball fan loves these days, took amphetamines to boost his performance when he played". Amphetamines however, does not improve your strength/power but rather, reaction time, cognitive function, alertness, and decreases your fatigueness. (gray area) Jack Clark had openly stated that he knew about Pujols's injecting himself before games. The reason why Pujols cant be proven 100% guilty of it is because Clark never saw Pujols doing it. Did I clarify that for you?
+Houston Snelbaker pre-steroids? how do you know that he didn't use his whole career, back then all you needed to do was answer questions. It was way easier to get away with using. Has Bryce Harper been caught for peds?
Only comparison is they might enter the HOF in the same year. That's IF Cooperstown builds an Asterisk Room back by the shitters for these clowns. (Dude I gave 188 million to play a kids game...didn't know I had to tell you not to cheat!)
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We'll see if Harper hits 40 bombs and swipes 40 bags and retires with 8 gold gloves
They chose the most meaningless stats to TRY and compare Bryce Harper to Barry Bonds. Over their first five or six years years, Barry Bonds averaged more hits, runs, doubles, triples, stolen bases, and total bases-- to name a few. All stats that truly matter. And Bonds was a much better defensive player. This comparison by the Baseball Network was a sneaky and unfair way to put Harper on the same level as Bonds. You are not fooling me or anyone else who truly knows baseball.
aregua1 AMEN!!!!!!!
Yeah... this comparison is comical at best. They must be bored or something.
anyone who hits over 40 home runs is the next barry bonds, you know how the media works
Only in hitting. Bonds on top of being the best offensive player in the National League in his prime, was also the best Left Fielder in the NL,and had some of the best speed in all of baseball. Harper is not Bonds... yet. If he wins a couple of gold gloves and steals 40 bases while also hitting 40 home runs, then we'll talk.
yet? you're clueless
aviator259 Being Bonds is more than just being the best offensive player. Bonds was the best defensively and was one of the fastest in the game. Yeah he's not.., yet, He can be one day but certainly not now.
+DotAHockeyWizard are you also going to mention the point that bonds took steroids?
Cameron Harbaruk Yeah he did steroids. Evidence points at that it began in 2000 and likely went on for the rest of his career. He also won 3 MVP awards before that and 7 gold gloves and his 40-40 season also occurred before that. Bonds was one of the greatest ever regardless of the fact that he did steroids. Harper is not Bonds... yet. I never said he couldn't be but that being Bonds is more than just offense.
+Bulldog Baseball he hit 73 HRs in 2001 and batted .370 in 2002 AFTER he took steroids. before he took steroids Harper has batter stats that's why I said Harper is a better hitter than bonds was. he had to cheat, that's why he'll never be in the hall of fame
when we see pitchers consistently fear harper then maybe he will be at same level.
You mean like when the Cubs walked him seven times in a three game series?
that was fucking gross
+Tanner Rienbolt that was one team
Tanner Rienbolt you mean Bonds being walked with bases loaded before? You mean Barry having 232 walks in the 2004 season??
Comparing Harper to Bonds' 1987 season and showing highlights of Barry in SF... LMAO cmon man
this is an insult to Bonds
William Nevins no it isn't is just an comparison of how both of them were
This aged well
You cant compare a legend with Bryce Harper.
Well he just did
@@frutispineapple6064 yep
I don't care bonds took steriods because everytime he went up to bat everyone wanted to see if he hit a Homer
Well, we’ll see about this when Harper’s career is done
Bryce is very good, but Barry is maybe the best of all-time!
Trout* I know ur confused
Keep in mind, bonds never failed a drug test
don't disrespect Bonds like that
Stokey Jackson IV their not it's just am comparison relax
1:03 just stop the funny comparisons....Harper will never ever come close to Barry.
He might. But it's definitely not appropriate to compare them today
well yeah because harpers not a cheater
or....he hasent got caught...dude looks like a roid
***** i don't think he is cheating
***** stanton could, hitting balls around 500 feet and out of the park in like 4 seconds
what kind joke is this? I'm a dodgers fan, and I know damm sure this is disrespectful towards bonds. bonds was a beast.
When they start walking Harper like they did Bonds (IN THE 90"s), not the next decade which was even worse, then make your comparison.
Bases loaded walk...then we can start a conversation
Harper is not in Barry bonds stratosphere.. Stop it espn.
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I don’t understand this trend where batting average is now unimportant. To me it’s the second most important stat to driving in runs. Do you get on base. Extend the inning, give your teammates a chance to create runs, drive in runs yourself and move runners ahead. People never talk about average and it’s one of the most important things. Most power hitter will avg 40-50 ones will striking g out 180x per year and hitting .260 but want 20-30M per season. Naw, if im a owner than I’m not burning my money on a one trick pony
Um average is like 5th important obp is a better average because it ways walks and ops is a great start also to weight players then u go to ops+ then homers and RBIs that's why they make big bucks yeah they hit 260 but they have a 350 obp an 800 slugging and a 150 ops+ with 35 bombs and 100 RBIs that's an elite player
Mr. Platinum it’s not an elite player at all. It can be a good player but an elite player regularly hits .300 while doing all those other things (prime Pujols, Bonds, A Rod, and Trout) are elite
right when I saw the video I was like "no, stop"... bonds is unanimously better. omg.
***** Nononono, definitely most peopel who have a sense in baseball knowledge know you can't even compare Harper to Bonds to how different one's numbers is to the other's consistent career numbers
Did either of you watch the video? He was putting it into context of age, and showing how Harper's 2015 did indeed compare with Barry's natural prime years, at least in hitting. Obviously he doesn't steal bases the way young Barry did, but this was about hitting prowess and position player WAR
aviator259 bonds was good because of roids
aww someone is upset
Dr.Beef a lot of people have put up similar numbers though, but barry bonds went from 460 slugging to over 800 by the end of his career, its insane to imply that Bryce Harper will ever do that.
Let's compare him now. did you see what season he had? he is not worthy of this hype. the guy had only one good season. the best player out there is trout. average, ops, slug percentage, hrs, rbi, sb and defense.
trout is an absolute monster.. harper is going to get paid then quit trying
i don't think you know the type of ball player bryce is then if you actually think that...
2020 Bryce is doing pretty good... Bryce may not be Barry Bond's on a career level but his 2016 MVP season was very similar. Plus their swings are very similar excluding thier "hitch".
Harper is my favorite player but this is a joke
way too early to compare the two, but i get it. baseball wants a basketball like thing going where they compare greats to greats. still, in my eyes, i don't think anyone is going to eclipse bond's skills for the game.
Comparing anyone to Bonds is just stupid. Bonds had his best years when he should have been declining.
Bonds is probably the best all around player in history.If he had a personality with the press,he would be recognized as such.
@@michellejohn695 um no if he didn't take drugs he'd be recognized as such
This is not the best of comparison's
Keep smoking whatever you got, Brian.
The more time passes , the stupider the comparision
How dare yall make this blasphemous comparison! WTF
How many rings do they have combined?
You can throw around any numbers you want, Harper isn’t even close to as good as Bonds was
It's too early but yeah I get your point. He's right when it comes to when bonds was 23 and and Harper 23
There is no comparison! Harper isn't even in the same league as Bonds!
smh, not saying he wont top bonds numbers but im not using saber metrics to make that point
Don't like Harper much (he's overrated and still hasn't proven anything) but he's much better for baseball unless you condone drug use to improve and prolong performance and then watch them surpass hall of famers who didn't use drugs to be a hall of famer. Until baseball does something conclusive to remove the drug users from the record books all comparison's will be moot when bringing up people like Bonds.
Harper no Bonds knock it off and never will be 👌🏾who runs to the tv 📺 to see Harper hit no1 but we did with Barry
Quit using this analytic bs use avg hr and RBI simple
thomas payne HR's and RBI are terrible stats to judge a players overall worth.
@@jamescarey480 I agree with u but I think they're important to they're just not the be all end all for me I look at obp ops and ops+ first then homers doudles and RBIs I will check war sometimes and I respect war as a stat but I think sometimes people put way to much value in it
Barry bonds and Bryce Harper are 2 entirely different hitters. Harper is a legend in the making. Barry bonds IS THE ALL TIME HOME RUN LEADER WITH 762 CAREER HOME RUNS. No one will ever Reach 700 Homers ever again. Not a single person.
Babe Ruth and Willie Mays are the only 2 players to "cleanly" hit over 650 career home runs. Bonds, Aaron, Rodriguez and Pujols all admitted to using PEDs. Willie Mays however, it was legal at the time, so TECHNICALLY Babe Ruth is the only person to "cleanly" hit over 650/700 career home runs. Yes i am defending Bryce (Dilly Dilly) and im not saying Bonds is terrible but if he didnt use PEDs he would have never put up the numbers he did.
@@troy7776 Wait a minute. Hank Aaron most certainly didn't take performance enhancing drugs neither pujols. But Bonds and Arod yes. Alex Rodriguez however cheated 3 times. If Hank Aaron did P.E.D.S, where is the proof? Ruth, Mays, And Aaron are all hall of famers. Pujols probably took performance enhancing drugs. But where is the proof? I'm not mad at you just confused.
@@rougedemoncollects5239 "Classy Hank Aaron, the guy every baseball fan loves these days, took amphetamines to boost his performance when he played". Amphetamines however, does not improve your strength/power but rather, reaction time, cognitive function, alertness, and decreases your fatigueness. (gray area) Jack Clark had openly stated that he knew about Pujols's injecting himself before games. The reason why Pujols cant be proven 100% guilty of it is because Clark never saw Pujols doing it. Did I clarify that for you?
@@troy7776 yes you did. Thanks
Bonds is better, but Harper is pretty darn good
Bonds was consistently great " before steroids". Harper is streaky.. ESPN has always wanted Harper to be the lebron of baseball.
Won’t break his records tbo
WAR is not a thing
I've never understood the fascination with Harper. He's so overrated.
barry bonds is better
1:03😮
LMAO this comp really broke down
If only they would’ve known how bad bryce Harper would become
Why compare him to an all time great but he’s not even as good as Trout is today?
Comparing him to a steroid user is always fair
They were comparing bonds pre steroids. Jesus Christ this comment section is full of dipshits talking out their asses
+Houston Snelbaker pre-steroids? how do you know that he didn't use his whole career, back then all you needed to do was answer questions. It was way easier to get away with using. Has Bryce Harper been caught for peds?
+Ghetto Ugandan how do you know he even took steroids
+BEAST24MODE no he didn't? He passed every test he took
+BEAST24MODE you too. If ur thinking him being guilty in court (later overturned) means he juiced, your an idiot
Only comparison is they might enter the HOF in the same year. That's IF Cooperstown builds an Asterisk Room back by the shitters for these clowns. (Dude I gave 188 million to play a kids game...didn't know I had to tell you not to cheat!)
That’s a clown comparison bro
Harper can’t hold Bonds jockstrap
The funny thing is Trout is better than both of them.
haha. Your funny.
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Last year trout hit .299 with 41 homers. Harper his .330 with 42. Bonds was 40-40 club before steroids. Tell me again who's better?
+Houston Snelbaker trout is much better defensively than both of them
+Noah Raymond not bonds, and I'd lose the defense for an extra 30 batting average points and more RBIs lol
So Bryce Harper takes roids
Has Harper been walked with bases loaded? They need to cancel this show after this nonsense. Brian Kenny knows better
This isn't ridiculous when you actually watch the video and look at the context of what they're doing.
But Harper still worse
Right when I saw this...I was like omg what if Harper used steroids. He would be like Thor out there
Um huh!?
Bonds used steroids.....
Now harper just has to load himself with peds and he will be twice as good as bonds
Harper is a goat
All I thought was one's a cheater and one isn't.
Harper also doesn't need drugs
Eric Lozaga .... Neither did Bonds.
Bonds didn't need drugs imo but they sure did help him hit atleast 200 extra career homeruns
@@zachkeene212 yes. He heeded drugs to hit the extra homeruns
Harper>Bonds by default since bonds is a cheater
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Bonds used steroids and Harper is still better.
Bonds is the greatest player of all time, Harper isn't even the best in the league right now.
bryce Harper > Barry Bonds
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