the evolv phantoms took so long for me to adjust to because they’re pretty aggressive and therefore really painful at first but they’re my favorite shoes to climb in now!! there’s definitely something to be said about your feet slowly acclimatizing to the discomfort of climbing shoes as a beginner. it takes time, but eventually you don’t notice it at all
I’m a beginner in bouldering and bought my first shoes today, the 'Ocun Striker QC.' I usually wear size 45 (EU) in regular shoes. According to the scale on the box, beginners should choose one size larger. For me, that would be size 46, which felt way too big for climbing shoes. The best fit for me was size 43, which is 2 sizes smaller than my regular shoes. The shoes fit snugly, my toes are bent, and it doesn’t hurt, so they actually feel optimal. But how did Ocun come up with this sizing chart? The shoes can’t be so oversized that I need to buy them 3 sizes smaller than Ocun recommends.
@@davidhammer3639 buying downsized climbing shoes is normal:) I use evolv size 43 and wear street shoe 11.5 Not sure what Ocun did with the sizing haha
@@Avorika yes and no... I suppose you can use any climbing shoe that fits for either condition; however, I have indoor and outdoor preferences! Outdoors I prefer a stiffer shoe that is a bit more durable--maybe even one that I dont mind getting dirty and beat up. I also hate slipping on and off shoes in between sends outdoor for bouldering, and aggressive tight shoes get really painful on ropes, so I also get something a bit more comfortable.
Nice vid. One note though: You say there are shoes that are "asymetric and shoes that are symetric". This isn't true, there are just some that are more asymetric than others. If they were symetrical it would mean that there isn't a left or right shoe as they would be exactly the same.
@@MonstaMunch101 thanks for the insight. Those are terms that are used by shoe companies to describe toe boxes. It is also commonly used to describe the anatomy of a foot. Rarely is human anatomy mathematically symetsymmetrical. It's a detail included for potential shoe buyers to have better vernacular for purchasing new shoes. The shape is very helpful for consumers to recognize a well fitting shoe.
I am pretty new in to climbing. Just got my first pair last week. I have a quick question about tightness and discomfort at the beginning because after my first session I ripped off some skin of the big those at the top. They are really tight. My question to you, do I just keep working them in and does my toes need to get used to it (also because I’m a beginner climber) or do I need to drop these and get a size bigger? I’ve got the scarpa reflex V btw! Thanks for the great video 🤌🏼🫶🏻
@@steijnvanderkamp6070 losing finger skin is very normal. If you are climbing 3x a week or more, your hands will develop many calluses. You might even get "flappers" -- pieces of skin ripping off your hands. Your toes might even develop calluses too lol. Regarding the shoes--advanced climbers who boulder often use very tight shoes that push your toes into a curl. I personally use tight shoes that do not have any room in the heel. If they are new, they may need to be broken in more which can take over 5 long climbing sessions.
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the evolv phantoms took so long for me to adjust to because they’re pretty aggressive and therefore really painful at first but they’re my favorite shoes to climb in now!! there’s definitely something to be said about your feet slowly acclimatizing to the discomfort of climbing shoes as a beginner. it takes time, but eventually you don’t notice it at all
Heck ya! Matching shoes, and I secon ALL OF THAT.
So useful, particularly your explanation for how the toebox should fit the foot.
helpful vid 4 new climbbbers!
There should be stores withshoes like that where im at in nYC its so mountainaous.
@@JoVeda_xo there probably are some good ones!
I’m a beginner in bouldering and bought my first shoes today, the 'Ocun Striker QC.' I usually wear size 45 (EU) in regular shoes. According to the scale on the box, beginners should choose one size larger. For me, that would be size 46, which felt way too big for climbing shoes. The best fit for me was size 43, which is 2 sizes smaller than my regular shoes. The shoes fit snugly, my toes are bent, and it doesn’t hurt, so they actually feel optimal. But how did Ocun come up with this sizing chart? The shoes can’t be so oversized that I need to buy them 3 sizes smaller than Ocun recommends.
@@davidhammer3639 buying downsized climbing shoes is normal:)
I use evolv size 43 and wear street shoe 11.5
Not sure what Ocun did with the sizing haha
2 sizes smaller bro. You gotta get used to it.
Just a question, is there different shoes for indoor and outdoor rock climbing? And if so, what will you recommend for outdoor
@@Avorika yes and no... I suppose you can use any climbing shoe that fits for either condition; however, I have indoor and outdoor preferences! Outdoors I prefer a stiffer shoe that is a bit more durable--maybe even one that I dont mind getting dirty and beat up. I also hate slipping on and off shoes in between sends outdoor for bouldering, and aggressive tight shoes get really painful on ropes, so I also get something a bit more comfortable.
Nice vid. One note though: You say there are shoes that are "asymetric and shoes that are symetric". This isn't true, there are just some that are more asymetric than others. If they were symetrical it would mean that there isn't a left or right shoe as they would be exactly the same.
@@MonstaMunch101 thanks for the insight. Those are terms that are used by shoe companies to describe toe boxes. It is also commonly used to describe the anatomy of a foot. Rarely is human anatomy mathematically symetsymmetrical. It's a detail included for potential shoe buyers to have better vernacular for purchasing new shoes. The shape is very helpful for consumers to recognize a well fitting shoe.
@@suckatslab Yep, marketing terms that defy reality and common sense. Happens in every industry sadly. Still, good vid.
I am pretty new in to climbing. Just got my first pair last week. I have a quick question about tightness and discomfort at the beginning because after my first session I ripped off some skin of the big those at the top. They are really tight. My question to you, do I just keep working them in and does my toes need to get used to it (also because I’m a beginner climber) or do I need to drop these and get a size bigger? I’ve got the scarpa reflex V btw! Thanks for the great video 🤌🏼🫶🏻
@@steijnvanderkamp6070 losing finger skin is very normal. If you are climbing 3x a week or more, your hands will develop many calluses. You might even get "flappers" -- pieces of skin ripping off your hands. Your toes might even develop calluses too lol.
Regarding the shoes--advanced climbers who boulder often use very tight shoes that push your toes into a curl. I personally use tight shoes that do not have any room in the heel. If they are new, they may need to be broken in more which can take over 5 long climbing sessions.