Asking Aptera about Safety, HVAC, & More!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
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0:00 Introduction
0:09 Solar Overproduction
1:58 No Frunk
3:19 HVAC Power
6:23 Summon Sun
7:02 Mirror Removal
7:56 Back Tire Service
10:58 Door Design
12:50 Park Assist Sensors
13:47 Display Size
14:57 Cameras
15:48 Glass VS Plastic
16:52 Split Window
18:18 Prodution Intent Builds
19:25 Crash Testing
20:22 Safety
24:03 Legroom
24:40 Fast Charging
28:56 Cleaning
30:21 Investors
30:38 Accessibility Handles
31:08 Side Impact Protection
32:11 Accessories
33:21 Teaser
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Your wife’s a great camera operator I must say. Actually impressive
This is definitely the most comprehensive interview that I've seen with these guys. And I love the fact that they didn't hide anything. They answered every single one of your technical questions openly and without hesitation. I too wish I was a billionaire so that I could get these guys to the finish line.
There hasn’t been a single question they’ve denied answering in all my experience. If they don’t know, they’ll refer me to someone who does!
@@TailosiveEVTheir openness is refreshing. I can't think of another startup company that has given out so much information during the development process than these guys. Even though the Aptera is not right for me personally (I have a wife and a teenage son), I am really hoping they succeed.
@@JustWasted3HoursHereyou’re only a few years from the Aptera being a good match for you, if your son is anything like I was as a teenager. I couldn’t wait to be out on my own despite having great parents. ;)
@@JustWasted3HoursHere Order one - even if he's 13, lol.
@@TheScottShepardSupposedly there's going to be a 4 seater in the pipeline in a few years.
I am continually impressed with how these executives make themselves available. They are present and seem to show no favoritism. They are there at events and test drives, not hiding in the background.
This is the most endearing thing about this project
I really hope they achieve Tesla-like success.
That's a strong indicator for vaporwares or scam actually. But I guess they got the product far enough where they can show it around for the next round of investors. This will be all about long-term cost and reliability, which is hard to prove and get the word out before the company folds.
their marketing guys are geniuses. They understand the key concept of the modern internet: you don't need millions of fans, just a few dedicated superfans. Relatively speaking, this company's following is small, so we will see how it goes
im just impressed they decided to keep certain things like the wheel covers manual. Yes its a futuristic car, but that doesn't mean it needs absolutely everything motorized and automated. Thank fuck they kept the wheel covers manual, thats one less motor and wire to worry about
PR tour. They've invited in a load of gullible influencer types who are not asking them any difficult questions.
Pretty sick to see you interviewing and interacting with Aptera so much. I'm rooting for them!
I hope they can keep the price, at least for reservation holders. I was considering the cybertruck but after their event I’m 100% in Aptera.
Agreed.
What the... for a second I thought this was my comment. I said the exact same thing and I am in the exact same boat.
The cybertruck and the aptera are on the opposite sides of the spectrum in terms of vehicle type and functionality. How could you so flippantly jump between them? Cybertruck blows also.
Loads of people were wondering about getting air to the rear wheel, even with the hole. The lack of needing to index it is fantastic!
Yup. Airless tires cannot come soon enough.
Chris is the most down to earth and honest seeming person I’ve ever watched in any of the thousands of EV videos. Knowledgeable and intelligent and very dedicated to seeing this great little vehicle to the end of the production process
I watched an interview and it was clear that one reason Aptera took so long is they had to change plans constantly as the reservations kept growing and they realized they would have to make real a high volume production line as it became clear that the concept was very popular and realized they could not afford to have major difficulties in their first Production units so they made more prototypes to wrong out issues. Their initial plan was to basically hand build them, but quantities ordered made them change plans. Thanks goodness we have some founders who really want this to succeed.
This conversation makes a lot more sense, when the HVAC system is discussed.
It is not the cup holders, the tail light that makes the car. It is the motors, the HVAC, the brakes.
And the controls/user interface.
Won't lie. I'm not buying a vehicle until aptera is available. This is my future , this is THE future
SAME!
Hope you work from home?
@@aussieideasman8498 or I own a vehicle and am waiting for aptera to sell and switch :)
@@aussieideasman8498WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN OLD MAN
@@roxasrox123 What is it I don't know, young fella?
Thanks Drew for addressing all of these additional topics. You asked great questions, and got some good additional design details and clarity from Chris and Jason, which is new to most of us. Kudos.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video. I'm asking Santa for an extra thousand dollars to invest in Aptera once more. Better to invest in hope for clean air and a livable world than curse it. Do wish someone could talk about cold weather/snow/ice performance in the northern states. Sad also but realize crash tests are necessary. Last comment.... I can't believe the amount of patience Chris, Steve, Jason and others have had with the public. I've done outreach before. It is exhausting. Hang in there guys and girls!
This is such a great video for information. I love your questions and their usual transparent answers.
Can you even _imagine_ Mary Barra discussing anything about her vehicles’ engineering with such detail and depth?!?
I know Elon Musk and Ferdinand Porsche and/or Piech could, but the last two and their ilk are long gone, and that’s why GM and VW will not be a part of our collective future unless they change direction and philosophy drastically.
Fun interview. Great to see Jason in a more relaxed mode.
I was lucky enough to visit Aptera a month ago and got to spend time with Gamma indoors; spent almost an hour sitting in it, looking around, and talking with Audra. This is a good reminder of that fun time, and with some bonus information in there too. I know both Chris and Jason have been great at working with Steve over at AOC channel, but it was interesting to seem them together answering questions and deferring to the other when that was best.
I am just a bit jealous. My wife and I met Audra and Quincy in November 2021 when we had a chance to ride in Luna. Aren't they great people? Still, I get to interact with them in my brand ambassador role on a regular basis. Forming great personal relationships is one of the bonus features of interacting with Aptera.
I figured that the split window was so the section that rolled diwn could be straight, to fit in the door. But it never occurred to me that it was to minimize the drag when you roll the windows down. That makes so much sense when you think about it.
I was also driving around in my Beetle the other day, and realized that solid upper window would shield against the rain coming in when you roll down the lower window. Its not as much a split window as a small side window, with a transparent section between the window and the roof.
A curtain, possibly clear. Behind the front seat could drastically reduce the heating and cooling load.
I did this one year on my Chevy volt
That large windshield if your driving west is gonna bake you if you don't have some great AC. Wonder if they could make a dimming glass like the Transitions eyewear for it... Something that doesn't even draw any power but dims with light could keep the car cooler when parked as well.
I asked about that later in the factory tour. CEO says the carbon fiber body is more like a thermos meaning it doesn’t collect a ton of heat from the sunlight. Most people will have the solar hatch so the back hatch won’t be clear
@golfish8589,
I think the solar panels absorb quite a bit of solar energy to convert it into electricity and would reduce the heat in the cabin. The dash solar panels acting the same way.
I think the Aptera cabin would be much cooler baking in the sun compared to conventional cars subjected to the same conditions.
This is amazing. You guys had great chemistry and the amount of detail is incredible. Awesome production too!
If I was not so damned old, I'd have signed up for an Aptera except for 1 additional thing. While a thing of beauty, I just cannot imagine how quickly the front wheels would get jammed packed with snow, ice, slush from our Western, NY winters. That does NOT make this a bad vehicle, just not the best for Western, NY [or similar regions]. For those old enough to remember the removable "Skirts" over wheel wells know exactly what I'm talking about with snow. You might as well remove them before the first snow and leave them off until spring. Still, I hope nothing but the best for the manufacture of Aptera and those who have weather more conducive to enjoying this beautiful vehicle.
The motors are in the wheel which generate heat passively. Should easily melt anything in there
@@TailosiveEV If so, then FANTASTIC!
I live in rural Iowa and have an early model on order. I will report on my experience.
Thank you for your excellent content, sir. I'm more than slightly jealous that you got to meet them and chat in person! Such a great team, there.
My pleasure!
Thanks for getting into the weeds on some topics with Chris and Jason! Look forward to more Aptera reveals/updates along with your continuing reporting. I will be educating my Discount Tire technicians as how to check/top off the air pressure, changing wheels, lift points, etc… as we all learn. I held them by the hand…. with my existing EV to assure to only use proper lift points for tire servicing…. Seeing scanning of the QR codes to understand repairs instructions /ordering, etc….will be exciting to learn.
I want to suggest that Aptera use a direct heating windshield defroster. This is just like the rear defroster - but without the lines. These can do this *critical* function for a couple of hundred watts, very quickly - think driving in an ice/snow storm or is very low temperatures. Blowing hot air onto the windshield can take *thousands* of watts. Likewise - heated seats and heated steering wheel, and maybe even heated floor mats, are all required for those of us in colder climates.
An important concept of safety - is deflection vs engagement. As Jason and Chris mention, the shape of the vehicle and its structure is excellent with the Aptera. By increasing the time available to decelerate - means *much* lower G-forces, which means much better safety.
Yes a thousand times to the heated windshield. I had one in a Toyota EV and it worked great, much faster and more efficient than blowing heated air to defrost.
This is a beautiful design that could actually save people tons of money and help the planet. I really hope it catches on. And the 0-60 in 4 seconds is an added bonus
Well done Drew and wife! (I'm sorry I don't know your name.) We appreciate your simple style of just good conversation and where it takes you. Chris and Jason, thank you again for your direct openness, for taking time with average people like us and being willing to answer almost anything thrown at you! The more we see, the more we love! Can't wait for the factory tour...
Thank you kindly!
THE PASSENGER WINDOW'S LACK OF "WIPER SWEEPING" MAKES "SHOTGUN" DRIVER ASSISTANCE "IFFY?" BUT THE RAIN X SOLUTION WILL WORK.
Listening to these two designers makes one realize how much thought has to go into a new vehicle, and then how difficult it must be to get to the point where they actually have a running car! These people deserve so much admiration.
No flat head or Philips screws is a major win!
55,000 flat heads is a major win for them.
I get so happy when I see another video with you at Aptera, keen for the next one!
Like that they talked about jacking points, what I want is a lot of thought put into how to best carry it on a light trailer behind an RV.
The footage from the iPhone 15 is really exceptional.
It’s better than a lot of DSLR cameras from a few years ago.
Super close-up overview of the production model
I would really love to have that V2H/ V2G/ V2L capability on aptera built in even if it means installing an extra $4,000 box on your electric panels. For those who does not plan to install that, they could use the V2L feature to work remotely or even to run your fridge/ heater at home in case of an emergency power outage.
Although I'm getting one of these as soon as I can, I suspect I'll want to replace it with the 2.0 version that should have V2L, heat pumps, heated seats, and other things that will be Nice To Have. Edit: LFP battery, too!
@@michaelbramel5771 I totally agree with this. It is such a shame to see so much free energy going to waste.
PS: I hold both a reservation in this and am an Investor too.
I'm not a fan of EVs. An online computer on wheels is just not something I'm interested in. HOWEVER, the Aptera team is designing for the people: affordability and practicality are king as we move into tough economic times. To that I say, WELL DONE. Aptera is everything the Cybertruck is NOT.
I have bad news for you, every new car is a computer on wheels(sadly)
Next you'll tell me there's no difference between my basic flip phone and a smart phone... I understand that computer chips are being put in EVERYTHING, and that all new cars have buckets of electronics. But it is very dishonest to suggest that an EV-with a large touch screen front and center and a small army of cameras-is the same as a standard ICE car. @@maxiferrari08
Appreciate the video and information.
Emphasis, comments, thoughts, analogies etc. on Tesla are nauseating.
The addressable EV market is much larger than Tesla, which is still an emerging player. We still have many years for the energy transition to play out.
I understand playing the ‘Tesla fanboy’ base, but the opportunity is actually much larger than the Tesla fan base.
Thanks again for posting, and,
Charge on!
I feel like Team Tailosive asks all the Q? I'm thinking of (and few more I wish I had). Kudos to Drew for (un)officially joining the Aptera development team by naming/coining the "porthole" on the rear wheel air intake. Another great vid which saved me the cost of a plane ticket to/from San Diego that I can put towards the payment of my Aptera.
Good call! Happy to help 🙏🏼
I think it would be great if the excess energy could be put in a portable solar generator that you could use at home in a power outage or on the road camping by loading it in to the back of the Aptera. The Aptera solar cells are at least twice as big as the solar panels that come with the solar generators. Maybe it could also "range extend" The Aptera if charging is inconvenient on a trip.
Great Interview! Thanks to both Aptera and you taking the time to make it! 👍
I want this car so freaking badly. I cannot wait to purchase one when available
Put the rear view screen down on the dash.
Improve visibility out of windshield
Beautiful blue sky in this video.
Great interview. I DC fast charge my ioniq 5 at 237kw on the electrify america stations. Pretty fast if you ask me.
This is super well edited: y’all did an amazing job cleanly editing down the responses to the questions to something very succinct.
Excellent presentation. Very informative.
These guys have their heart and soul into this car...I hope they sell 500,000 of these a year...great people, great car, great for the environment and wallet...everyone wins....
Awesome watching the three of you geek out. I can't get enough of this.
More to come!
This is a very well done informative video. I can’t wait until there is more information and especially the first PI builds completed. I’m high on the list for my 600/white variant, but I can’t wait.
Looking forward to seeing them start making these and seeing them on the road!
Great questions and interview. I like this format it just like you are there at a car show asking them questions
An absolutely excellent and exciting interview gentlemen!!! I love it! Thank you!
Great questions! Good video.
Fantastic interview. I'm really excited for this to go into production!
Awesome interview! Asking all the important questions. I appreciate it, subscribed.
Thanks so much Jerry! Hope you enjoy
Fantastic video. Thank you.
Can hardly wait for the next video on the bench testing of the HVAC system.
Since I live north of the 49th Parallel, we do get temps down to the -30's, either Celcious or Fahrenheit, it gets cold up here for at least 3 months of the year
Such a great interview👌
Thank you for this. It is very informative! I can not wait for this vehicle!
Glad it was helpful!
Wishing the heating element wattage was user selectable. 1800W, 900W, give the use options to select the maximum continuous draw.
VERY good video. Good video, good sound and informative. No jumpin' ahead to skip the 'slow' parts (cuz there ain't any).
Im keeping my eye on this vehicle. I do 140 miles a day round trip to and from work. Plenty of sun at work while im parked .
Excellent. Thank you.
I’m still trying to win the Lottery so I can fully fund you. It’s such a worthy cause I can’t understand why it hasn’t happened yet.
Excellent!!! Great interview - I look forward to the next part. Every time I see more information I get even more excited to have MY Aptera. How long after production commences until the 600 mile variant starts shipping???
The taller batteries will need to be in regular production for that to happen. I think it likely that this could be 2026 or beyond.
I love this vehicle so much! I'm not super into the weeds with the numbers but i understand enough to see this thing is awesome : )
Great interview and questions. The Aptera CEO is a class act.
I really hope that this thing comes to the UK. The idea of a buttload of range, effectively just for transporting me and one passenger and some luggage is exactly what i want. i do a lot of longer distance stuff, and if I can make those longer trips affordable without too many breaks then i'm all in.
very organic - form follows efficiency.
The questions you pitched are so valuable. Thanks for sharing it.
My pleasure!
12:00 knock-knock! Loved it
Loved Thanks
Great questions, in a lot of interviews I've seen they ask the same questions that have been answered a million times.
Ok they are right about heat pump vs conventional non reversing HVAC during the warmer months but a standard HVAC system means we need a PTC cabin heater which will cause range to be significantly less when needed. That is the main benefit of a heat pump, the rest of the country is NOT California. Absolutely worth the additional R&D / vehicle cost.
That said, I absolutely cannot wait to see these on the road.
Sunbelters, particularly, seem to want to dismiss needs they don't have as "outliers" or "edge cases". This is why I'm especially concerned about their glib dismissal of the need for wiper coverage on the right third of the windscreen. It's not about passenger visibility. It's not about rain.
@@robertkirchner7981 Hmm… I remember during one particularly nasty snow storm… where the traffic was really slow… the slush was piling up on my car. If I'm remembering correctly, I had to get out of the car to clear off the additional buildup on the sides of the front window.
This wasn't some remote location. This was New York / New Jersey.
I wonder how the Aptera would have fared in such conditions. 🤔
@@robertkirchner7981 Your view of sunbelt types is 'on the mark'. The Aptera is the consummate California car. I eagerly await REAL WORLD news of how this SEV will deal with a Lake Effects Blizzard in Buffaloe, N.Y.S. or a good New England snowstorm, espc. the ones with 03 inches of rain mixed with the snow, to give you 'lead[the metal pronunciation ] snow'; the sort that breaks the shear pins in a snow thrower. I am so far down the List, that I should have ALL the real world info to decide if this will work for me.
The "aptera way" of getting in and out of the aptera is the way all people should get in and out of cars. It is best for their back. The usual way people get in and out is terrible for their back
In regards to entering and exiting the vehicle while its raining; besides the rubber trim along the inner edge of the door opening is there anything else that will possibly catch the rain water so if and when you open a door you don't get a downpour of water on you? I ask because I had a Ford Probe do that to me every time until I installed a small thin piece of curved rubber to channel / catch the water and divert the same fore and aft away from me.
I'd love to use the free power to cool the cabin before I leave for work, especially when it's easily 110°F when I leave for work sometimes.
When they started talking safety, I was thinking, "This thing is like a 2 seat F1 car," seconds before Chris started comparing it to F1! I'm expecting only minor changes will be needed when real-world crash tests are done.
😆 I’m envisioning a fleet of these in a parking lot migrating autonomously to stay in the sun.
It would be great to have the side mirror displays also be able to look directly left and right at intersections to see oncoming traffic. Also hybrid to see obliquely back for suicide merge lanes (45-60 degrees back).
Now this was really something special. This vehicle will change the world even more than Tesla will...
I can’t wait until this car comes out, I’m much more inclined to buy one as my work commuter. On top of everything they’re doing I just hope the cars sound system will be amazing as well 🤞🏽
I wonder if you could put a film protection on the glass solar panels, like what's on your phone? My concern would be damage from rocks. Great interview! Lots of great information. I can't wait to get mine!
The solar glass has been tested with hail chunks going 90mph. It’s quite strong
@@TailosiveEV I agree, it's quite strong and probably won't crack. My concern would be with chips and scratches from large rocks bouncing off the road and hitting the hood solar at the worst possible angle. This would be more of an aesthetic issue. A 3M self healing clear bra kit could be an option.
@@johnbullers8647 Yeah, gravel trucks can be a menace.
Aptera ♥️
Drew, keep up the great Aptera reports. Please find out when they will have east coast deliveries & service.
The 5,000 or so LE vehicles projected will all probably be delivered from Carlsbad. I plan to travel to California to pick mine up in person. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a couple more years for East Coast deliveries to commence, but I hope I am wrong.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I can’t wait that long for east coast delivery. Will people who live on east coast pick up in Carlsbad and ship it themselves via a closed carrier or drive it cross-country themselves? Why doesn’t Aptera establish east coast deliver depots such as one in NJ and other in FL? Start-up Lucid and Rivian don’t make you pick it up at factory.
@@johnpoldo8817 Yes. Some LE edition order holders will even ship their vehicles overseas. I plan to travel to California to pick up mine and drive it back to Iowa. I may drive my 2001 Honda Insight to Carlsbad, and sell it when I get there, or fly out and drive back - I haven't quite decided yet.
Aptera has sufficient demand for all the LE editions they can make with Carlsbad only delivery.
At this point, Lucid and Rivian have far better financing in place as well. Aptera is not in a place at the moment where they can do all the same things as these two companies, but look at how long it took them to get to that point. Lucid was founded in 2007, and Rivian in 2009. Aptera is doing well in comparison.
Hopefully in the future you will be able to go to full color e-paper (or similar) non-emissive displays that are easily visible in bright light AND that neither emit eye and health destroying blue light, nor flicker at any frequency - also debilitating at 100-120 hz.
It's shaped like a Prince Rupert's drop- probably going to be one of the strongest cars of all time.
Great point.
And on top of the shape, carbon fiber is 5-7x stronger than steel. Safety is always my number one concern even though I've never been in an accident (knock on wood), and aptera is not simply a decent choice but rather the best choice.
To me, a non-engineer, a big weakness in this car is the lack of side and head airbags. These do add some weight, but they provide great added protection. Formula 1 drivers have much stronger seat harnesses and helmets and other safety aspects that an Aptera driver will not have. The lack of these airbags seems like a missed opportunity to make this a really safe car.
This is the future!
beautiful.
Any information on how the car performs in colder temperatures? does the 3 wheel design affect how it would drive in snow or ice? Or even just bad roads with pot holes and cracks, i feel like that third wheel in the back would bounce pretty hard in that design?
It'll sell outside of the USA.
Ask them about ccs and front license plate in Europe
On board inverter!!!!
Hey could it be used to charge another EV? Park one beside my model S to get that sweet sweet overflow!
I've got my pre-ordered and this did answer some of my questions... But I live in MN and I'm still wondering how it does in snow or very cold weather. Someday I'll find an answer.
Aptera Owners Club has done some great videos on that. It’s all wheel drive and has independent motors in each wheel so I think it’ll do great
I'm thinking that it would be like driving a normal car. If the weather's really bad, best to say inside. It is a lighter vehicle so I would like to see how it does as well in pouring rain with standing water. Is there a greater chance to hydroplane? Definitely going for the all wheel drive option.
@@TailosiveEVunderstand snow could be an issue but I want to make sure cold isn't an issue. Snow gets plowed soon enough but cold is 4 months (or even more).
Curious about the software. Whats the OS? What language is the vehicle software written in? What about tue ability to repair? Service? Great videos.
Software? 🤣 they are still finalizing the hardware it seems
Any inspired billionaires or bitcoin millionaires ready to take our Baby Aptera under neeth their wings! In the comments section reading this, and enjoying this video!
The other large safety improvement is the lighter vehicle. For the Aptera hitting something, it will have less momentum. For something hitting the Aptera, with less weight, the inertia change allows it to give and move more easily instead of being just a battering ram target locked to the ground.
"Chief" is misspelled on your thumbnail. I wouldn't mention it, except I know you can fix it without losing tracking.
They talk about the bespoke solar panels which are amazing.. just wondering how many spare parts will be available... what the plan is for that.. Long way to get to Australia if we need a set... im sure they have thought about it. I know Tesla still suffers from this years on.. has got a little better....
When can I test drive / buy in Australia ?
One concern I have is drive stability under strong cross wind conditions. Does the rear wheel cowling act as a sail causing lateral tire slippage?
While I'm not degreed in a way to answer the technical aspect of your question, aptera have said many times in the past that the whole body behaves similar to an aerofoil. Thanks to it's overall aerodynamics, it not only slices through the air traveling forwards, but also feels little to no movement from crosswinds. They've mentioned moments that they've driven past 18 wheelers and felt almost zero body movement from the rushing air.
Is there going to be an option of a fixed side windows?