The game is a perfect balance of love and hate. And everything is to make you addicted, every time you get these 300 gold, or you hear you are godlike, or 8/0 in the first 15 mins, dopamine goes brrrr. But then you spend 200h on it, break a table, and a wall, and your ass, so it doesn't feel good anymore... But then Arcane season 2 comes out, so League is the best game again!!11
Man, i hate how much i love this game. Haven't played seriously (ranked) since 2018, and just casually play from time to time. I never considered myself "quitting" league but more of "pausing" the game for a while. God, i hate this game.
League of Legends is just so addicting, the dopamine rush when you hear "Victory" or won a massive teamfight with all the flashing abilities is just something too different from other games
The thing that first drew me to league was a bunch of friends and even a few family members telling me to try it out. I remember at the time seeing Ahri and thinking "Yes, that is who I want to play". It was Season 4, I had no idea what I was doing, and I screwed up a lot. But I had fun regardless and it was partially thanks to the 9-tailed fox. I would play the game for years. Sometimes playing alone, other time with friends, fielding Ahri for the most part but branching out towards other champs I liked: Swain, Kindred, TF, Azir, Veigar, Kha'zix, Kled, Jhin, Xayah, Ekko, Pyke, and a few others would ended up becoming characters within my roster, and the heydays of seasons 5-8 will remain as some of my favorite memories. But over time, as the game became more e-sports based, the overall game becoming more complex, powercrept, the magic started to wane. Friends I knew for a long time stopped playing and I grew increasingly more frustrated at the push for ranked when I just wanted to have a fun time. And in the end, I just didn't have fun anymore. And sadly, I had to leave behind the characters I grew so fond of over the years. Seeing Ahri's ASU now finally come to fruition is amazing and I'm glad she finally got the visual update she needed. But I know that, for my mental health, diving back in the game and experiencing her new model, voicelines, and animations is simply not worth the toxic environment that I left behind and felt better about myself because of it.
League is chess and chess teaches you everything about life. If you play league correctly. it will teach you to becoem a powerful individual IRL. You will begin to udnerstand that loses are actually wins why? Because you didnt lose your cool. You stayed sane , calm ,chill, relaxed etc. Most peoples league experience is toxic, stressful and depressing mines the opposite because im playing the gme correctly. 5v5 , 2 strikers mid top, 2 playermakers that pass the ball to the strikers top and mid to score and 1 wingman that could possibly score if he wants to but for the most part pass the ball around everyone on the team.
@@talkgamingtome what's gonna happen after you lose? LP? drop tiers?so? Question is whether did you have a calm and chill experience? because this is why i play league. It's very relaxing. Even if you win a game. IF you win a game of league. You went 30/0/5. You carried the team that went 0/10/0 but during that entire game you lost control of your mind due to fear of LP, fear of rank demotion, teamates mistakes which all lead to being emotional and then defending the emotional responses with ego. Like how a stereotype that women argue emoionally even if they're wrong because of their EGO. Real victory of league is not on the result of the game. It's not about victory or defeat.Its whether you played well, could improve upon something from that game and did you remain calm in high stressful situation. Because when you remain calm. You would udnerstand that there was nothing much that you could do and your opponent took advantage of that. You tried to 1v9 and fix things but you couldn't because of you're teammates scoring own goals. If you get teammates who continue to make mistakes and score own goals, thats their issue its not yours. Your job is to focus on you and when you do. When you come out of the game you would develop mental toughness and alot of mind related exercises that condition your brain well. Things that you will have to learn in the army or battlefields of war, work places etc and this will make you a highly aware individual that lives a very conscious life aligned with your spiritual self. You will become the human with a soul in carrying games 1v9 gracefully but deathly and bloody. In a game where everyone else is a toxic NPC bot that soudns the same playing the game incorrectly. and by playing the game incorrectly you damage your brain. Playing chess emotionally only damages the brain and not strengthen it.
I'm glad that i am so calm about video games. The matches i lose i don't really mind and those i win are obviously fun, so i can always enjoy the game. Also great video, i just discovered your channel and i like the style of your videos a lot.
I can relate so hard to this video. I actually quit for a bit over two years and thought I'd never go back, but Arcane was recommended to me on Netflix a month ago and it made me want to play again. So much has changed that is really like learning the game all over again. It's just fun.
@@talkgamingtome Funny thing is, I was SO disconnected from all things league that it only reached my ears a year after it's release date. Now video essays about it won't stop popping up on my front page.
It’s kinda a mystery why I still play. I don’t think any game has frustrated me as much as this game has. Genuinely it feels utterly terrible to be behind. I hate the frustration that going against certain characters, you can feel being down just one kill to such a higher extent than others Funnily enough I think it’s the community that makes me stay. I got addicted to it bc I met now good friends who play it. I like using LFG, meeting new people late night and just vibing. It also forces me to work on my tilt rather than cursing at my monitor and hitting my table. Then there’s also those moments when I’m having a really good game. I’m a 6-0 Camille and I feel like God. It feels amazing to me, but of course those moments feel terrible to the enemy team. Due to it’s moba nature it feels very hard to comeback depending on who’s fed on their team. It’s a roll of the dice if it’s actually feasible to come back or not. And it’s incredibly frustrating compared to something like Valoranr where if you’re good enough you can bring your team back from anything. I describe the game like nicotine. It has those fun enjoyable moments, but it’s addictive and holy fuck some of the frustration it brings.
You nailed it. Those few games where you do stomp and people say "man, you're good" feel great even if those ones are likely horrible for your opponent. Very hard to play from behind but the 1% of the time you do manage to do it, that also feels amazing - like a huge rush.
I had a 10 afk streak in ranked and was promptly demotated after I had clawed my way to silver. I am not the best player. I know that but I was being punished for something I didn't do. League has done nothing to improve their system on how people should be punished. The other thing is smurfs. Smurf accounts run rampant at the lower ranks and every game pretty much comes down to "do you have the better smurf?" which is extremly unfun. I think last year I tried it again and it took me 5 games against players to realize why I quit. 3 out of 5 games you had afks. 1 troll Yumi that just attached itself to me and wanted to me to her money and only 1 game where everything was fine. We still lost but that was an actually okay match. 1 out of 5 games was okay. Just okay. Let that sink in.
Oof, ya that sounds like League. I didn't touch on smurfs but they are a HUGE problem as well. They always act like they aren't but go 21-0 in a game, which is just no fun. Best you can hope for is getting high enough that they aren't a problem or just pray you get lucky and have one on your team sometimes.
What League really needs right now is a new way to play the game, not just a crazy build which will be nerfed in two patches, but variety as a whole. One of the reasons why we hate the game so much is because we now every single aspect of the game, there's no new way to play ;"oh, just pick different champions and test new builds"; yes, we can do this, but it will be the same map with the same rules which i've been accustomed to since 2012. We've been here for more than a decade, and played the hell out of this, and in the past it was really fun, there was always something new, but nowadays the game is still, there's nothing new, just the same old ranked mode, normal draft, and ARAM, and after a while, we became tired of it. A good example would be with Super Mario Bros for the NES, that's a good game, old, but good, you can replay that for eternity, and after a while, you'll be bored of it, because you know it too well, but you can spice things up with speed run attempts and mods, you can change things in a substancial and visible way, but with league... Ok, you can use one of those awesome map mods, but the game doesn't change, it's just a skin, like the 100+ skins we got last year.
The game is much narrower than before, with many off-meta builds being somewhat viable. Nowadays Riot intends a champ to be built, played, and laned a certain way; and that certain way is enforced.
My only reason I'm still playing is collecting with minimal costs. Play rank get gold get skin. Play Aram get S get chest. Collect one skin per champ .. and that's it. I still play sometimes on a smurf to help newer peeps to start (worst decision they every made) I'll quit one day. 💀
I quit LoL in late 2014, joined again to see if Meddler would fix things until quitting again in mid 2018. So scared that a Victorious skin that I want will be announced, and that I'll be too rusty and lost to earn it.
The video I didn't want but truthfully needed. I've been playing since start of s3 (the best season) and it has always pulled me back in. Being much older now though, I really have sat back and just played the game leisurely without much thought to my play and just go in doing whatever I feel like is fun now while trying to win lol
300th comment, better make this count! Well, let me just say, I think you've hit the ball out of the park with this deep dive into the mentality of a tenacious player; I once felt that urge to win and improve myself. But, let me tell you how that tenacity finally broke, leading to my second permanent ban from the game; as well as why I sincerely hope that second account will be my last. The differences don't seem all that big on their own, but... these three factors definitely add up. Firstly, the 2023 cinematic was nothing short of disappointing. You know it, I know it, Riot knows it; and despite the devs claiming up and down there's a lot coming for LoLPC... it's hard to feel like it's their top priority, given what comes out for Valorant, LoR, and Wild Rift. Second, the tendency towards balance by dilution rather than by saturation; that is, they're typically choosing to nerf the strongest strategies, instead of buffing its counters... and when they try to give something buffs or introduce items that give a breath of fresh air to the game, the concepts get abused too hard and Riot immediately dilutes it again. I use the term "diluted" because when a game is balanced this way, it feels very watered down. Lastly, the bad player angle has been compounded by a different problem that has only worsened since this video's release and my second permanent suspension: BOTS. I dropped to high Iron due to a combination of my dwindling patience/sanity and dedication to a champion that was kinda falling off in the 12.1 meta even though everyone thought he was still amazing. In the games leading up to my permanent suspension, I learned that Iron players literally have to test now whether their allies are humans that can speak in chat; most often, ADCs asking their supports. Add to that that Iron players will often go experimental in ranked when normal draft is RIGHT FUCKING THERE... and you have the reason my final game of League on my second (and hopefully last) account involved me, as Udyr jungle, selling my items to buy Mobility Boots and Hearthbound Axe, just to run down the game harder than my Vayne mid was feeding the Lee Sin and Malzahar; just to end it that much more quickly since I surmised that defeat was inevitable anyway. League has been appealing for all these years... but I think now it's just starting to finally rot from the inside out, as Riot slowly takes its eggs out of the 10 year old basket, hoping no one notices the painted rocks they're replaced with. Those who are better than me at the game still get what they want out of it, but... it's just not for me anymore. And if you're reading this, I hope it made you consider whether or not League was for you... or at the very least, I hope the rest of your day goes well!
For the 300th comment, that WAS pretty epic. All totally valid reasons for being disappointed. I was also hyped for the cinematics and the one this year was just...ouch. All these comments have made me consider whether League was worth it and I'm slowly starting to think it isn't - at least compared to the MANY other games I'd rather be playing. Thanks again for the comment and hope your days go well too!
One thing about league is that although you don't carry any in-game progress to the next game, you carry over your emotions...if someone tilted you too damn hard, you'll feel easier to rage the next game, and if you have a series of incredibly bad losses (especially so if you think you're not the one that caused the losses), you'll become the flaming human trash that you hate, and your toxicity in that one game would also keep the cycle going. Doesn't really help when my main champ is teemo.
That's so damn true. It becomes so easy to spiral as one loss leads to another and to another, spreading your negative emotions around. Agreed the teemo main doesn't help you out lol.
I just want to start by saying, great video! I appreciate how well you broke down your love/hate relationship with league. While I do agree that the community is the worst part about league, my reasons aren't exactly for the same reason as you mentioned in your video. People who are toxic in game are definitely the worst of the bunch, but I do feel like there's an unhealthy tendency for people both in and outside the League playerbase to trash on the game for the sake of it. League definitely has a ton of problems and a ton of things to be mad about but many of them aren't really unique to League itself. You're absolutely correct in saying that it's how the game is structured that is amplifying these common issues. Constructive criticism is definitely warranted for all its flaws but I feel like the game's reputation has long preceded it. Similar to self-deprecating jokes, it's all fun and games until you've eventually convinced yourself to actually believe it. I think I'm in a very small majority of people who don't harbor any resentment towards League. I believe that the most important thing for a League player to do to avoid burnout or straight up hating the game is to do some self reflection. It's important to set some boundaries on what you can and cannot take before your mental takes a hit. Some people have a high tolerance for toxicity but some don't. I wouldn't call myself tiltproof, quite the opposite actually. I find myself bitter whenever someone becomes toxic towards me. What I do is that the moment I feel like the vibes are off, whether it be someone typing anything remotely toxic or spamming pings to me, I immediately mute all. Perhaps it's just because I'm an Evelynn one-trick with a selfish playstyle, but I genuinely feel like the moment the chat takes any amount of downturn, any upside with pings or callouts gets drowned out by nonsense. In the same vein, it's also important for players to come to terms with what makes the game fun for them. Some people enjoy solo queue, others enjoy aram or tft, and others still burn out and stop being able to get any worthwhile fun out of the game. They're all valid and people shouldn't feel disheartened for doing what they enjoy or in the latter case, quitting what they don't. I despise ranked not mainly because of the players, but because of the pressure I get putting my rank on the line. Every time I'm in solo queue champ select I can feel my heart beat in anxiety even though I'll lock in Eve 95% of the time. It's why I'm content with just playing normal games. What I love is playing the champs I've found to enjoy in the style I enjoy. I guess it's why I'm so quick to /muteall lobbies, I know what I enjoy and I know what to do if anyone ever tries to make me do something I don't. In my perspective, I know the extent of my skills and I'm confident I can reach Diamond if I play enough games but I find it unnecessary to go through all the stress of grinding so much games to reach a goal when I can just play the game for the enjoyment of just playing it. I understand that I'm likely a minority amongst a very competitive community, but it's simply what I find most enjoyable about it just. I just hope that more people can find and appreciate what they find enjoyable about League too.
Hey there man and thank you for the video, just wanted to say that I have stopped playing nomal or ranked wild rift since 2018 and aram has been the best thing that happened every since then, shorter games, matches are more calming since there are no drakes/ baron's and is actually fun to play, the only real problem will be that even though it should have a randomized champ pool one team always ends up with lots of crowd control and broken champs while the other tends to get melee fighters or tanks
I noticed that too! I should try it again but I remember getting champs I didn't know and people being angry when I wasn't perfect so it lost its appeal.
I'm a happy that you're relation to the game is somewhat healthy. Unfortunately for me, I cannot handle the toxicity and trolling. I am proud to say I am almost 2 years sober from League
League is just one of those games that has been around forever now. It’s like call of duty. It’s like family guy or the Simpsons. It’s like your moms casserole. Yeah it kinda sucks, and gets stale, and there’s a bunch of stuff you hate about it, yet you still find yourself playing it because it’s just always been around and familiarity is comforting.
I don't hate league. It's my first moba and I like the concept of it. It's fairly cool imo but I do hate the players. I'm learning how to play jungle and when I know I'm having a bad game seeing "jg diff" is pretty annoying but that's what /mute all is for. I think the reason why people quit is because they don't know how to pace themselves. I've seen people go on a 5-10 game losing streak in a day and still continue to play. I set myself to play at 7am in the morning when I'm well rested, if I lose two games I'll try one more time. If I lose a third time I'll stop playing for a couple hours and do something else. A game is only as addicting and toxic as you let it be.
Setting limits is for sure the way to go. I'm similar in that I'll only play a game or 2 at a time whether I win or lose to avoid LONG negative streaks that just kill time. RIP on you for playing jg though - that is a thankless job.
I just like challenge in my life. I'm constantly challenging myself in real life. I was infantry in the army and i had to shoot the best so i went down the sniper path. I then wanted to see if I could do SF. Then i got out and became a contractor. Now I'm trying to learn how to code and also rebuild a car engine. I started the game by playing the hardest champ at the time, Riven. I then switched to Lee Sin when i switched my role to jungle and played him and only him for years until i mastered him and got diamond 3 years in a row. When Gangplank got reworked and he looked like he was one of the hardest champions to play i switched to him. I like challenging myself to coming up with a pick like Poppy in support and saying "I'm gonna try to get to diamond doing only this". I never play anything that's considered top tier. At the end of the day I just enjoy challenge and league and my teammates are a pretty good challenge to overcome.
This was me 4 years ago going back and forth. I just didn't want to quit after playing for thousands of hours. Then was forced to quit because my laptop was trash and I just couldn't play. Got into apex next and recently quit that game aswell. Right now I'm trying to find what game I can play as my main. Trying different MMOs (black desert online) atm.
To me, League has never been more than a party game to play with friends, not unlike smash or mario kart I've never cared of quitting before I've never cared of getting in to begin with But it never ceases to amaze how much people thread, swear and bleed through a game so barren in content
Why do you act like competitive attitude is negative? Would you do the same if it was basketball or football? Honestly I could say the same, but reversed, I find it tiring to play with ppl that just press buttons like it's flipper or something. Same as I hated to play with teammates that just played yo play in basketball (which made me enter a proper team that try to push for the victory) Competition and self investing are funny for some ppl, as it is for you to "party game". That's why we have ranked and draft/normal
@@stefano2166 Being competitive is totally fine but a competitive attitude shouldn't mean putting down your teammates for making mistakes or not being as good as you. If someone in a real sport acted the way people do in league, ya, I would 100% leave the game or stop trying. If you want to win, share that drive to your teammates; turning on them only hurts the team.
My relationship with league is actually pretty healthy, I remember back in 2014 when I first started playing (And when my hype for the game was at it's peak, since I really wanted to play league but prior didnt had a capable PC), I would get bored after 3 to 5 games, after that I was off to play something else or whatever. Now I must have like 2000 hours spend playing the game, and over the years my friends started playing lol too because of me (I now convinced two of then to play Tarkov with me, you can guess how fun is for then learning that game), and none of us really had an adiction to league. If you ask me, the worst thing that came out of me playing league is breaking a glass table I used to play on over getting lane camped, out of which I came out without damages. And about the toxic teammates, I changed the size of the chat log to make it so small I cant read what people type in there, so I guess that helps. It's all about balance, people.
Woah that was a wild read. That's crazy about the table, but I had a whole in my last desk for a similar reason so I get the reaction. The best thing does seem to be ignoring chat any way you can. Making it super small is a brilliant idea.
My "new years" resolution was that if I uninstall league for any reason I will not install it again, this time it is for real, I'm going to set a firewall on my PC and I will not be able to access the league server. I will not uninstall it now, but if I: format my PC, rage uninstall it, it corrupts or anything else, I'm not installing it again.
the lore and arcane took me in i'm new to league pc played wild rift deleted wr to play here because wildrift was getting too big on the storage on my ipad.
I agree with this video its a perfect balance of competitive gameplay and fun. Now I get extremely mad sometimes because league is almost never balanced but it's still a fun game with a decent amount a good amount of support, so when I win it feels great because I know how hard it is to win at all in this game!
Ya I really shouldn't be surprised at this point. But at the level I'm at, everyone is making mistakes all the time but everyone just focuses on one person....so just don't make the first mistake.
I started league in season one, 2010 I think it was. I quit playing league about 2014. I reinstalled league for the first time since 2014 the other day. I have my old account still but made a new one just for fresh start sake. First match I jumped in, mid afk'd then left, and support left adc and came to farm top with me. I immediately remembered why I don't play league and uninstalled. Quitting league was the best decision I ever made in my life.
I first started playing in 2013, got permanently banned a few years ago. From this point I decided that I would never play again, but in 2020 I decided I'd create a new account to scratch the itch and also to become a better player, I'm level +200 right now and I keep on playing every day, it's something I can't let go of in all honesty. Great video, sums up pretty well how I feel about the game.
if only we didnt play in NA. Game is just better than most other and its based on the how. mechanics mean everything, like even pokemon unite is close to good to me imo. dota is too much tho. also very strong ip built over time league is a good game we the player base tend to ruin it sometimes great vid
I still play League because of my friends. It's just that game that everyone plays, and when I want to hang out with my friends we just play some matches while on discord.
The reason the game is so addictive is because of the use of dark patterns which manipulate you into a feeling of sunken cost. The sunken cost fallacy means that no matter how bad the game makes you feel, quitting feels worse. Ranked matchmaking is designed to make you play as many games as possible before reaching the rank your skill deserves even though you can be playing against other players of similar skill the whole way there; often with manufactured hot/cold streaks which engender unhealthy play patterns. Then if you do manage to quit, the esport or other projects like arcane remind you about the game in a positive way, and you forget the toxicity and jump back in to start the process all over again.
i actually quit recently, and im pretty sure i wont go back for good. sure might play a few games here and there but it will be rare. i did "quit" for a year before, but this time i know i wont go back. and honestly its been the best thing ive ever done. the game tilted me beyond belief, and i have a great mental. playing valorant getting to asc 2 has been the most fun ive ever had playing ranked in any game ever. the only bad side is not being able to play with all my friends all the time since a lot of ppl play league, but not everyone plays every other game i play. but i still think quitting league is worth it. the only reason i could recommend it is if ur using it as a way to connect with friends. Edit: also, great tip is to upload at least 720p, preferably 1080p.
Playing with friends is always appealing. But just know that when they have less friends playing (like you), they'll probably slowly start to leave as well and you can all find something new together. The 480p was a BIG mistake from rushing the upload and "should" not happen again.
@@talkgamingtome to some degree yeah. some of the people i played with doesnt rly seem to interested in many other games and it is what it is. some cant play say valorant with some of us due to ranked issues (rank disparity) and i mainly play it for comp. it just is what it is. i dont regret quitting, tho i would be lying if i said i didnt miss how simple and nice it was to just always have ppl to play with, always people coming by. it was easy and nice to just play league. but oh man did league really hurt my life lmao. all the good parts of league wasnt rly tied to league, it was all just something we all enjoyed. i dont think league is objectively bad, but i think a lot of the community is. i also think the game just is old, and we are seeing the effects of that. fortnite is getting ariana grande, travis scott, starwars, fuckin thanos... and in league we get little to no new things, but hey at least we got lil nas singing and rapping a worlds anthem??? its not even a part of the game sadly. to put it into perspective, it apparantly took 2 engineers on the riot team many months just to make a BE sale. that just tells me its time to move on. im loving other riot games, and im rly hyped for the mmo in many years. sry for that long ramble lmao.
i find it EXTREMELY hard to get into consistently, though i watched ESPORTS for years i just recently started trying to play last year and the toxicity on every lil mistake is insane, its like i go from yea lets play to 2 games in im like ugh i regret playing this game.
(sorry for my eng) The community of the league, as you know, is not colorful, and I really do not like so much toxicity that is in this game, but this is probably the biggest and only thing that is a hindrance to me. I love the whole storyline of the game or the characters, which is still expanding, the game itself is a lot of fun even after so many years, there are always updates and news, of course it's not always something great or wow because worse things also happen, but nothing has ever discouraged me from this game to completely leave or really get fed up with it because when I feel bored with it, for example, but it has something in it that I soon return and everything is still as it was
Just out of curiosity, what other league like mobas except heroes of the storm and dota 2 are out there? Tried to look for something else couple of weeks ago, but honestly there really isn't and whichever ones did exist are now extinct. Edit: Fyi matchmaking is not equal
I think those are the only ones still around. New ones keep popping up, but they never survive. Matchmaking is about as equal as it can be. Still has a ton of smurfs but it works both way. It's not a total blowout every game where you have 0 chance.
@@talkgamingtome The Valorant team posted and League team confirmed that their matchmaking works based on "variety mmr" so if you're silver-gold mmr and the opponent is gold-plat mmr while you "visually"(current rank) are silver 4 and the opponent is plat 1, you can match up with that person cause both of your mmr-s cover the gold area. 9/10 times it's gonna be not an enjoyable experience and that 1 time is when the enemy is inting. In my opinion that is not a fair and equal matchmaking system. The perfect example would be my first ranked game in NA. Me, unranked has to go up against the top1 heimer in the region, a current diamond 2. Sounds like a great introduction. The worst part of it and which bothered me the most is that Riot said that they think this is the most fair matchmaking just cause if you're in the lower bracket it makes you want to improve and honestly at this point i'm looking to have fun, not improve.
I played the least this year more than the past ten years. But I still can’t quit it. But hey. I wouldn’t trade it for the world. Fuck being a console/casual gamer. I wanna compete. Even if it’s as bronze morg/maple sup only.
my gf was just laughing at me yesterday because she knows how much I hate this game love to play, and saw me excited about the Aurelion update, and went "ok league...u got me for another year....for now..."
I'm currently just playing a couple matches per week. I got tired. The "dopamine" doesn't even affect me anymore. It's actually the opposite. This game doesn't reward you, it actually punishes you for playing right. The matchmaking gets worse if you play good. And the balance... Omg... It's ridiculous that champs like Garen que just instakill you anytime, while other champs like Akali need to smash buttons like a test your might from Mortal Kombat. What's the point of learning champions that need skill when you can just pick Garen or Lux and kill everything with just Q + Ult. The ranks doesn't even make sense. There's so many bad people (like BAD) in diamond or master. While you struggle to get past platinum, because the matchmaking keeps punishing you for being a good player.
I have the same thoughts ALL the time. The most skilled champs are just a bigger challenge for you and aren't even better than spin to win Garen. Maybe that's some of the fun, learning those tough champs, but losing to a Lux or Garen does always feel terrible.
I thought it was impossible to quit but nah it has no hold on me anymore. I only enjoy watching good gameplay and I don’t even know why I even spent so much time on the game when I was clearly not good at it. I think I quit way before the season number turned into double digits
League of Legends is the Test of Wills and Mentality No Matter How your Good One Word Can Makes the Worst of You Better Quit if you cant Handle Reality in Games No One will Adore you you have to Work it out yourself and Make you tell that your not a Saint but one of the Many that you hate, They called Toxic
Did quit like 2 years ago (I play like a dozen games a year with pals at this point) and once you are off for a while and come back you notice how mediocre the game is. It simply very addictive when you constantly play it
@@talkgamingtome Well, today you have Magic Arena, which is free to play digital version. I really like it's tutorial too. Magic has a knowledge curve that is smooth, if you can handle League, you can handle MTG. I'm used to say that Magic costs you the amount you want it to cost. :)
Glad to see a video that’s not just rah rah League is dying. Personally, I 100% relate to everything you’ve said. It’s a real love/hate relationship. I’ve found myself gravitating to Wild Rift in the past year. It has toxicity, too, but the matches are so much shorter, it doesn’t feel like you’re being held hostage when someone decides to be a 🍆
i absolutely agree with you. Examining just the game and what it offers shows how complex and nuanced it is, making league truly epic and beautiful. But there exist shitheads living in their bubble of delusion who wake up thinking they are faker and ruining that competitive experience. its why at this point I just play tft and watch esports. Totally doesnt have to do with the fact that playing ad carry year after year is mentally exhausting and suicide inducing.
I think it has to do more with the design of mobas in general on top of the champion designs. I quite gaming in its entirety for a little more than a year and once I felt like wanted to play again I swept through different genres. I love competitive games and there isn't anything in the current market that can execute the amount of fun and complexity that league offers. Let alone its cosmetics and how great some designs are only comparable to fortnight imo . If they build and innovate on what they have currently this game design will be relevant as long as gaming exists.
Becuase the good games as in the close ones where people arnt messing around are fun and challaneging but sadly the majority games are just a messy nightmare, I dont think it that much about winning as when you stomp the enemy the game becasue boring and what you do no longer matters.
I'm actually more toxic when playing Unite lol, even if there isn't a chat there. The fact it's even more braindead addicted chaos with players who don't know how to do anything means I prefer the salty League players because even if everyone's doing their own thing, there's a general understanding on teamwork and winning the game. It's hard sometimes, but to be successful you have to keep ypur head cool. If you let yourself get distracted by feeding, or teammates feeding, you cant play from behind. This is one reason I like playing the girly champs, because they're bright and cheery, so they encourage you to stay positive. Or Vex, because she doesn't care about anything, why should I tilt when she's apathy incarnate? (Have you ever met a toxic Braum player?)
I have fun every time I play and I've been playing since 2011 just mute the jerks and don't expect every game to go exactly how you want it to. Find friends who are tilt proof and just make fun strategies. It's all how you approach the game it doesn't always have to be a weiner measuring contest.
I think everyone has some of that competetive side in them but when riot makes stupid balance changes not once , many times after another continiously makes you think they dont care about the game so why should you , ive started in season 5 and by season 7 or 8 i was just done and decided to quit it ive came back once in a while but always came to the same conclusion , riot games just sucks in game design.
Oooo great question. I regret the time I spent early on chasing wins as that would lead to some late nights and never felt good. More recently, I only play a couple times a week and use the game more of a break between other games. It's something I can play for an hour with a clear start and end.
That being said, the most rewarding experiences are in all chat when you mention an idea on how to shutdown an enemy and you can execute the plan with that random teammate. Too bad you get banned for naughty words even though everyone would rather have them not run it down or afk. It's almost like there is a mute button.
I literally reached Master and just found that I was fed up with the fucking toxic people that it’s in that league +. I came back after a two years break. Guess what?. It’s the same.
Well congrats on Master! But ya, the toxic people really hurt the game as a whole and that will probably never change unless there is a huge shift in how the game is experienced or rewards you.
@@talkgamingtome you hear everyone saying that in those leagues people has a different mind, but it’s a whole lie. It’s like every little mistake it’s a real advantage for the enemy, and sometimes there are players that just can’t control their fucking mind and just insult, troll or sometimes just don’t play because they want you to lose on purpose (kinda like in every other league, lol). They push your limits so bad that you leave hurt from that game!!!. It shouldn’t be like that, but ranking it’s a real big deal in those leagues. I just don’t stand that anymore, so I just play normals to have “fun”.
@@Sereny4 Good to know it's the same sort of pressure at all levels. Maybe normals is the way to go but I've found the skill difference there to be WILD as some people try new stuff and others play their mains. Maybe ARAM is the answer lol. So glad you liked the video!
Wild rift removed All Chat, and I thought this was a bad decision because that's a nice feature to have, but then I played some PC league and realized that it's probably for the better.
League's a game I may rest for playing but it's the type of easy to comeback and play again... No matter the issues as long as it's not game breaking... I guess only people that Grind it a day are the ones that gets tired and quit league
they could just add a voice chat and the toxicity would be gone but no there is a reason because they dont add it the devs trying everything to keep players at broze silver gold plat if there was a real voice chat everyone would be challanger for sure
The game is a perfect balance of love and hate. And everything is to make you addicted, every time you get these 300 gold, or you hear you are godlike, or 8/0 in the first 15 mins, dopamine goes brrrr. But then you spend 200h on it, break a table, and a wall, and your ass, so it doesn't feel good anymore... But then Arcane season 2 comes out, so League is the best game again!!11
Lol it really is about crazy highs and lows. Makes me feel something more than more games that's for sure; even if it's mostly anger.
i can see how you would break a table and a wall but breaking your ass that's taking it to the next level
for sure this game gives the most dopamine, and the most anger
maybe few years ago. Ever since item rework game felt so wrong and deadass boring.This is prob worst season since s6
Thats so true!
Man, i hate how much i love this game. Haven't played seriously (ranked) since 2018, and just casually play from time to time. I never considered myself "quitting" league but more of "pausing" the game for a while. God, i hate this game.
Same dude. 100% the same.
League of Legends is just so addicting, the dopamine rush when you hear "Victory" or won a massive teamfight with all the flashing abilities is just something too different from other games
That's a fact!
Me watching this while booting up league after a day of resisting to smash my monitor because of my teammates
Oh, same. Time to find out how they'll annoy me this time lol.
i have quit this cycle for good. ive quit ever since 3.13
@@jeremysmith4405 I've quit since 6/2/2023. We'll see if it holds...
The thing that first drew me to league was a bunch of friends and even a few family members telling me to try it out. I remember at the time seeing Ahri and thinking "Yes, that is who I want to play". It was Season 4, I had no idea what I was doing, and I screwed up a lot. But I had fun regardless and it was partially thanks to the 9-tailed fox.
I would play the game for years. Sometimes playing alone, other time with friends, fielding Ahri for the most part but branching out towards other champs I liked: Swain, Kindred, TF, Azir, Veigar, Kha'zix, Kled, Jhin, Xayah, Ekko, Pyke, and a few others would ended up becoming characters within my roster, and the heydays of seasons 5-8 will remain as some of my favorite memories. But over time, as the game became more e-sports based, the overall game becoming more complex, powercrept, the magic started to wane. Friends I knew for a long time stopped playing and I grew increasingly more frustrated at the push for ranked when I just wanted to have a fun time.
And in the end, I just didn't have fun anymore. And sadly, I had to leave behind the characters I grew so fond of over the years. Seeing Ahri's ASU now finally come to fruition is amazing and I'm glad she finally got the visual update she needed. But I know that, for my mental health, diving back in the game and experiencing her new model, voicelines, and animations is simply not worth the toxic environment that I left behind and felt better about myself because of it.
great comment!
Great story and a very common one I'm sure. Best not to jump in - it won't be the same as it was and only remind you why you left.
We all play league because it is the best multiplayer game ever made, and on average also the most balanced multiplayer game in history.
Ya, as annoying as the updates can be sometimes, at least they are making them to TRY and keep things fair and balanced.
League is chess and chess teaches you everything about life. If you play league correctly. it will teach you to becoem a powerful individual IRL. You will begin to udnerstand that loses are actually wins why? Because you didnt lose your cool. You stayed sane , calm ,chill, relaxed etc. Most peoples league experience is toxic, stressful and depressing mines the opposite because im playing the gme correctly. 5v5 , 2 strikers mid top, 2 playermakers that pass the ball to the strikers top and mid to score and 1 wingman that could possibly score if he wants to but for the most part pass the ball around everyone on the team.
You are wise in the ways of League. I'll have to give that mentally a shot.
@@talkgamingtome what's gonna happen after you lose? LP? drop tiers?so?
Question is whether did you have a calm and chill experience? because this is why i play league. It's very relaxing.
Even if you win a game. IF you win a game of league. You went 30/0/5. You carried the team that went 0/10/0 but during that entire game you lost control of your mind due to fear of LP, fear of rank demotion, teamates mistakes which all lead to being emotional and then defending the emotional responses with ego. Like how a stereotype that women argue emoionally even if they're wrong because of their EGO.
Real victory of league is not on the result of the game. It's not about victory or defeat.Its whether you played well, could improve upon something from that game and did you remain calm in high stressful situation. Because when you remain calm. You would udnerstand that there was nothing much that you could do and your opponent took advantage of that. You tried to 1v9 and fix things but you couldn't because of you're teammates scoring own goals.
If you get teammates who continue to make mistakes and score own goals, thats their issue its not yours. Your job is to focus on you and when you do. When you come out of the game you would develop mental toughness and alot of mind related exercises that condition your brain well. Things that you will have to learn in the army or battlefields of war, work places etc and this will make you a highly aware individual that lives a very conscious life aligned with your spiritual self. You will become the human with a soul in carrying games 1v9 gracefully but deathly and bloody. In a game where everyone else is a toxic NPC bot that soudns the same playing the game incorrectly. and by playing the game incorrectly you damage your brain. Playing chess emotionally only damages the brain and not strengthen it.
@@thamutha
Well said.
Wish more people (not just league players) had that mindset.
Hey just found your channel because of this video but I loved it! Keep making these videos you are really interesting and funny
Thanks so much! I like making them so count on more to come...I just need to find the time lol.
good video! only request is improving video quatlity (480p looks like 8bit xd).
100%. The 480 was a HUGE mistake that I blame on my laptop. A mistake I'll be sure to avoid in the future.
I'm glad that i am so calm about video games. The matches i lose i don't really mind and those i win are obviously fun, so i can always enjoy the game. Also great video, i just discovered your channel and i like the style of your videos a lot.
You have the right mindset - that's a gift!
Glad you found the channel and like the style! I'll be sure to keep making more stuff.
@@talkgamingtome Nice, i'll be looking forward to that!
I can relate so hard to this video. I actually quit for a bit over two years and thought I'd never go back, but Arcane was recommended to me on Netflix a month ago and it made me want to play again.
So much has changed that is really like learning the game all over again. It's just fun.
God Arcane was so good; it really did a lot for the game.
@@talkgamingtome Funny thing is, I was SO disconnected from all things league that it only reached my ears a year after it's release date. Now video essays about it won't stop popping up on my front page.
@@hardlo7146 There are a MILLION video essays about it - I think I've seen most of them lol
It’s kinda a mystery why I still play. I don’t think any game has frustrated me as much as this game has. Genuinely it feels utterly terrible to be behind. I hate the frustration that going against certain characters, you can feel being down just one kill to such a higher extent than others
Funnily enough I think it’s the community that makes me stay. I got addicted to it bc I met now good friends who play it. I like using LFG, meeting new people late night and just vibing. It also forces me to work on my tilt rather than cursing at my monitor and hitting my table.
Then there’s also those moments when I’m having a really good game. I’m a 6-0 Camille and I feel like God.
It feels amazing to me, but of course those moments feel terrible to the enemy team.
Due to it’s moba nature it feels very hard to comeback depending on who’s fed on their team. It’s a roll of the dice if it’s actually feasible to come back or not. And it’s incredibly frustrating compared to something like Valoranr where if you’re good enough you can bring your team back from anything.
I describe the game like nicotine. It has those fun enjoyable moments, but it’s addictive and holy fuck some of the frustration it brings.
You nailed it. Those few games where you do stomp and people say "man, you're good" feel great even if those ones are likely horrible for your opponent. Very hard to play from behind but the 1% of the time you do manage to do it, that also feels amazing - like a huge rush.
Quit from end of S6 to mid S12 but now I'm hooked again... At least I enjoy it most of the time....
Most of the time is somehow just enough.
I still stand by the fact that lol it self is a good and fun game. The people you meet however, may not be fun to play with.
The real friends were the people we met anywhere but in a game of League.
I had a 10 afk streak in ranked and was promptly demotated after I had clawed my way to silver. I am not the best player. I know that but I was being punished for something I didn't do. League has done nothing to improve their system on how people should be punished. The other thing is smurfs. Smurf accounts run rampant at the lower ranks and every game pretty much comes down to "do you have the better smurf?" which is extremly unfun. I think last year I tried it again and it took me 5 games against players to realize why I quit. 3 out of 5 games you had afks. 1 troll Yumi that just attached itself to me and wanted to me to her money and only 1 game where everything was fine. We still lost but that was an actually okay match. 1 out of 5 games was okay. Just okay. Let that sink in.
Oof, ya that sounds like League. I didn't touch on smurfs but they are a HUGE problem as well. They always act like they aren't but go 21-0 in a game, which is just no fun. Best you can hope for is getting high enough that they aren't a problem or just pray you get lucky and have one on your team sometimes.
What League really needs right now is a new way to play the game, not just a crazy build which will be nerfed in two patches, but variety as a whole. One of the reasons why we hate the game so much is because we now every single aspect of the game, there's no new way to play ;"oh, just pick different champions and test new builds"; yes, we can do this, but it will be the same map with the same rules which i've been accustomed to since 2012. We've been here for more than a decade, and played the hell out of this, and in the past it was really fun, there was always something new, but nowadays the game is still, there's nothing new, just the same old ranked mode, normal draft, and ARAM, and after a while, we became tired of it. A good example would be with Super Mario Bros for the NES, that's a good game, old, but good, you can replay that for eternity, and after a while, you'll be bored of it, because you know it too well, but you can spice things up with speed run attempts and mods, you can change things in a substancial and visible way, but with league... Ok, you can use one of those awesome map mods, but the game doesn't change, it's just a skin, like the 100+ skins we got last year.
Ya they do need more modes or places to try stuff out without getting flamed.
The game is much narrower than before, with many off-meta builds being somewhat viable.
Nowadays Riot intends a champ to be built, played, and laned a certain way; and that certain way is enforced.
Recently stopped after 7 years daily playing. Changing the LEC, the meta and the jungle changes were partialy the cause.
My only reason I'm still playing is collecting with minimal costs. Play rank get gold get skin. Play Aram get S get chest. Collect one skin per champ .. and that's it. I still play sometimes on a smurf to help newer peeps to start (worst decision they every made) I'll quit one day. 💀
That's a good idea - I need to play aram for some chests so I can use my 52 keys.
I quit LoL in late 2014, joined again to see if Meddler would fix things until quitting again in mid 2018.
So scared that a Victorious skin that I want will be announced, and that I'll be too rusty and lost to earn it.
The video I didn't want but truthfully needed. I've been playing since start of s3 (the best season) and it has always pulled me back in. Being much older now though, I really have sat back and just played the game leisurely without much thought to my play and just go in doing whatever I feel like is fun now while trying to win lol
We play the same. I try to be chill about it and play the characters I want and not what the meta ones are. Trying to enjoy it
If I had friends to play with I'd be more in love. Playing alone has been rather depressing TBH.
I get that. Only a few still play. Not the same without 4 others to play with.
300th comment, better make this count!
Well, let me just say, I think you've hit the ball out of the park with this deep dive into the mentality of a tenacious player; I once felt that urge to win and improve myself. But, let me tell you how that tenacity finally broke, leading to my second permanent ban from the game; as well as why I sincerely hope that second account will be my last. The differences don't seem all that big on their own, but... these three factors definitely add up.
Firstly, the 2023 cinematic was nothing short of disappointing. You know it, I know it, Riot knows it; and despite the devs claiming up and down there's a lot coming for LoLPC... it's hard to feel like it's their top priority, given what comes out for Valorant, LoR, and Wild Rift.
Second, the tendency towards balance by dilution rather than by saturation; that is, they're typically choosing to nerf the strongest strategies, instead of buffing its counters... and when they try to give something buffs or introduce items that give a breath of fresh air to the game, the concepts get abused too hard and Riot immediately dilutes it again. I use the term "diluted" because when a game is balanced this way, it feels very watered down.
Lastly, the bad player angle has been compounded by a different problem that has only worsened since this video's release and my second permanent suspension: BOTS. I dropped to high Iron due to a combination of my dwindling patience/sanity and dedication to a champion that was kinda falling off in the 12.1 meta even though everyone thought he was still amazing. In the games leading up to my permanent suspension, I learned that Iron players literally have to test now whether their allies are humans that can speak in chat; most often, ADCs asking their supports. Add to that that Iron players will often go experimental in ranked when normal draft is RIGHT FUCKING THERE... and you have the reason my final game of League on my second (and hopefully last) account involved me, as Udyr jungle, selling my items to buy Mobility Boots and Hearthbound Axe, just to run down the game harder than my Vayne mid was feeding the Lee Sin and Malzahar; just to end it that much more quickly since I surmised that defeat was inevitable anyway.
League has been appealing for all these years... but I think now it's just starting to finally rot from the inside out, as Riot slowly takes its eggs out of the 10 year old basket, hoping no one notices the painted rocks they're replaced with. Those who are better than me at the game still get what they want out of it, but... it's just not for me anymore. And if you're reading this, I hope it made you consider whether or not League was for you... or at the very least, I hope the rest of your day goes well!
For the 300th comment, that WAS pretty epic. All totally valid reasons for being disappointed. I was also hyped for the cinematics and the one this year was just...ouch. All these comments have made me consider whether League was worth it and I'm slowly starting to think it isn't - at least compared to the MANY other games I'd rather be playing. Thanks again for the comment and hope your days go well too!
One thing about league is that although you don't carry any in-game progress to the next game, you carry over your emotions...if someone tilted you too damn hard, you'll feel easier to rage the next game, and if you have a series of incredibly bad losses (especially so if you think you're not the one that caused the losses), you'll become the flaming human trash that you hate, and your toxicity in that one game would also keep the cycle going.
Doesn't really help when my main champ is teemo.
That's so damn true. It becomes so easy to spiral as one loss leads to another and to another, spreading your negative emotions around.
Agreed the teemo main doesn't help you out lol.
I just want to start by saying, great video! I appreciate how well you broke down your love/hate relationship with league.
While I do agree that the community is the worst part about league, my reasons aren't exactly for the same reason as you mentioned in your video. People who are toxic in game are definitely the worst of the bunch, but I do feel like there's an unhealthy tendency for people both in and outside the League playerbase to trash on the game for the sake of it. League definitely has a ton of problems and a ton of things to be mad about but many of them aren't really unique to League itself. You're absolutely correct in saying that it's how the game is structured that is amplifying these common issues. Constructive criticism is definitely warranted for all its flaws but I feel like the game's reputation has long preceded it. Similar to self-deprecating jokes, it's all fun and games until you've eventually convinced yourself to actually believe it.
I think I'm in a very small majority of people who don't harbor any resentment towards League. I believe that the most important thing for a League player to do to avoid burnout or straight up hating the game is to do some self reflection. It's important to set some boundaries on what you can and cannot take before your mental takes a hit. Some people have a high tolerance for toxicity but some don't. I wouldn't call myself tiltproof, quite the opposite actually. I find myself bitter whenever someone becomes toxic towards me. What I do is that the moment I feel like the vibes are off, whether it be someone typing anything remotely toxic or spamming pings to me, I immediately mute all. Perhaps it's just because I'm an Evelynn one-trick with a selfish playstyle, but I genuinely feel like the moment the chat takes any amount of downturn, any upside with pings or callouts gets drowned out by nonsense.
In the same vein, it's also important for players to come to terms with what makes the game fun for them. Some people enjoy solo queue, others enjoy aram or tft, and others still burn out and stop being able to get any worthwhile fun out of the game. They're all valid and people shouldn't feel disheartened for doing what they enjoy or in the latter case, quitting what they don't. I despise ranked not mainly because of the players, but because of the pressure I get putting my rank on the line. Every time I'm in solo queue champ select I can feel my heart beat in anxiety even though I'll lock in Eve 95% of the time. It's why I'm content with just playing normal games. What I love is playing the champs I've found to enjoy in the style I enjoy. I guess it's why I'm so quick to /muteall lobbies, I know what I enjoy and I know what to do if anyone ever tries to make me do something I don't. In my perspective, I know the extent of my skills and I'm confident I can reach Diamond if I play enough games but I find it unnecessary to go through all the stress of grinding so much games to reach a goal when I can just play the game for the enjoyment of just playing it. I understand that I'm likely a minority amongst a very competitive community, but it's simply what I find most enjoyable about it just. I just hope that more people can find and appreciate what they find enjoyable about League too.
Hey there man and thank you for the video, just wanted to say that I have stopped playing nomal or ranked wild rift since 2018 and aram has been the best thing that happened every since then, shorter games, matches are more calming since there are no drakes/ baron's and is actually fun to play, the only real problem will be that even though it should have a randomized champ pool one team always ends up with lots of crowd control and broken champs while the other tends to get melee fighters or tanks
I noticed that too! I should try it again but I remember getting champs I didn't know and people being angry when I wasn't perfect so it lost its appeal.
@@talkgamingtome always reply that it's an aram game and they need to chill, it isn't your fault the game gave you ass champ
I'm a happy that you're relation to the game is somewhat healthy. Unfortunately for me, I cannot handle the toxicity and trolling. I am proud to say I am almost 2 years sober from League
Congrats on being clean! Don't give in to the peer pressure of starting again. Stay cool!
League is just one of those games that has been around forever now. It’s like call of duty. It’s like family guy or the Simpsons. It’s like your moms casserole.
Yeah it kinda sucks, and gets stale, and there’s a bunch of stuff you hate about it, yet you still find yourself playing it because it’s just always been around and familiarity is comforting.
That was perfectly said - you nailed it. There is a sort of comfort in it.
I don't hate league. It's my first moba and I like the concept of it. It's fairly cool imo but I do hate the players. I'm learning how to play jungle and when I know I'm having a bad game seeing "jg diff" is pretty annoying but that's what /mute all is for. I think the reason why people quit is because they don't know how to pace themselves. I've seen people go on a 5-10 game losing streak in a day and still continue to play. I set myself to play at 7am in the morning when I'm well rested, if I lose two games I'll try one more time. If I lose a third time I'll stop playing for a couple hours and do something else. A game is only as addicting and toxic as you let it be.
Setting limits is for sure the way to go. I'm similar in that I'll only play a game or 2 at a time whether I win or lose to avoid LONG negative streaks that just kill time. RIP on you for playing jg though - that is a thankless job.
one day i thought no its enough i will never ever play this game again and it worked and it was my first time seeing sunlight since ice age.
I'm glad you found peace lol. One day, I'll see the sun again
I just like challenge in my life. I'm constantly challenging myself in real life. I was infantry in the army and i had to shoot the best so i went down the sniper path. I then wanted to see if I could do SF. Then i got out and became a contractor. Now I'm trying to learn how to code and also rebuild a car engine. I started the game by playing the hardest champ at the time, Riven. I then switched to Lee Sin when i switched my role to jungle and played him and only him for years until i mastered him and got diamond 3 years in a row. When Gangplank got reworked and he looked like he was one of the hardest champions to play i switched to him. I like challenging myself to coming up with a pick like Poppy in support and saying "I'm gonna try to get to diamond doing only this". I never play anything that's considered top tier. At the end of the day I just enjoy challenge and league and my teammates are a pretty good challenge to overcome.
That's a great way of thinking and taking on the game. I wish I had such willpower.
Good video. I love League as well. I'm a master player but feel like a newbie sometimes. Great game
Really keeps you humble from one game to the next that's for sure.
first main was master yi, love the video homeslice.
Mine was Miss Fortune and she is still my fav.
@@talkgamingtome MINE TOO
This was me 4 years ago going back and forth. I just didn't want to quit after playing for thousands of hours. Then was forced to quit because my laptop was trash and I just couldn't play. Got into apex next and recently quit that game aswell. Right now I'm trying to find what game I can play as my main. Trying different MMOs (black desert online) atm.
I hear Final Fantasy XIV is good.
@@talkgamingtome It is but i dont like been forced to the campaign for the first 80 or so hours of the game. Main reason i decided agaisnt FF
Great video man, you will get thousands of subs fast.
Eh, thanks so much. A thousand would be great but then I may have to actually make vids more often.
To me, League has never been more than a party game to play with friends, not unlike smash or mario kart
I've never cared of quitting before I've never cared of getting in to begin with
But it never ceases to amaze how much people thread, swear and bleed through a game so barren in content
People get VERY invested in every match like their lives depend on it.
Why do you act like competitive attitude is negative?
Would you do the same if it was basketball or football? Honestly I could say the same, but reversed, I find it tiring to play with ppl that just press buttons like it's flipper or something. Same as I hated to play with teammates that just played yo play in basketball (which made me enter a proper team that try to push for the victory)
Competition and self investing are funny for some ppl, as it is for you to "party game".
That's why we have ranked and draft/normal
@@stefano2166 most people play sports because it's a fun thing to do with friends
@@stefano2166 Being competitive is totally fine but a competitive attitude shouldn't mean putting down your teammates for making mistakes or not being as good as you.
If someone in a real sport acted the way people do in league, ya, I would 100% leave the game or stop trying. If you want to win, share that drive to your teammates; turning on them only hurts the team.
I only play aram since season 6 and ill never go back. depending on the patch games rarely last 30+ mins and its less toxic (but still toxic)
I've heard that about aram! I should give it try since I haven't for years!
My relationship with league is actually pretty healthy, I remember back in 2014 when I first started playing (And when my hype for the game was at it's peak, since I really wanted to play league but prior didnt had a capable PC), I would get bored after 3 to 5 games, after that I was off to play something else or whatever. Now I must have like 2000 hours spend playing the game, and over the years my friends started playing lol too because of me (I now convinced two of then to play Tarkov with me, you can guess how fun is for then learning that game), and none of us really had an adiction to league.
If you ask me, the worst thing that came out of me playing league is breaking a glass table I used to play on over getting lane camped, out of which I came out without damages. And about the toxic teammates, I changed the size of the chat log to make it so small I cant read what people type in there, so I guess that helps.
It's all about balance, people.
Woah that was a wild read. That's crazy about the table, but I had a whole in my last desk for a similar reason so I get the reaction. The best thing does seem to be ignoring chat any way you can. Making it super small is a brilliant idea.
My "new years" resolution was that if I uninstall league for any reason I will not install it again, this time it is for real, I'm going to set a firewall on my PC and I will not be able to access the league server. I will not uninstall it now, but if I: format my PC, rage uninstall it, it corrupts or anything else, I'm not installing it again.
That is a great resolution. I hope it doesn't happen but if it does, I hope you have the will to stick to it.
the lore and arcane took me in i'm new to league pc played wild rift deleted wr to play here because wildrift was getting too big on the storage on my ipad.
I've heard good things about wild rift but don't have the courage to add League to another device of mine.
YES, new TGTM video! I gotta say though, just watching footage of this already made me mad hahaha...ah sigh. Hope you've been well!
Always a pleasure! I've been so well I'm too busy to make videos lol. Glad you are enjoying this one though.
I agree with this video its a perfect balance of competitive gameplay and fun. Now I get extremely mad sometimes because league is almost never balanced but it's still a fun game with a decent amount a good amount of support, so when I win it feels great because I know how hard it is to win at all in this game!
Exactly. The challenge of getting a win ensures it's always exciting or at the very least, a nice relief.
A game that punishes you for every small mistake, It’s no surprise it produces toxic players
Ya I really shouldn't be surprised at this point. But at the level I'm at, everyone is making mistakes all the time but everyone just focuses on one person....so just don't make the first mistake.
I started league in season one, 2010 I think it was. I quit playing league about 2014. I reinstalled league for the first time since 2014 the other day. I have my old account still but made a new one just for fresh start sake. First match I jumped in, mid afk'd then left, and support left adc and came to farm top with me. I immediately remembered why I don't play league and uninstalled. Quitting league was the best decision I ever made in my life.
An all too familiar story. Enjoy your League sobriety.
I first started playing in 2013, got permanently banned a few years ago. From this point I decided that I would never play again, but in 2020 I decided I'd create a new account to scratch the itch and also to become a better player, I'm level +200 right now and I keep on playing every day, it's something I can't let go of in all honesty. Great video, sums up pretty well how I feel about the game.
Thanks! Glad you came back and have improved in your game. That is what League should be all about.
@@talkgamingtome 🙌🏻
Man the YT recommendations finally did something right. Subbed. Liked. Goated. Based. But 480p kinda wack.
Thanks! Ya the 480p was a huge mess up. Just think how good any future vids will look though - at least 720p
@@talkgamingtome You can be 144p and I'd still watch
if only we didnt play in NA.
Game is just better than most other and its based on the how. mechanics mean everything, like even pokemon unite is close to good to me imo. dota is too much tho.
also very strong ip built over time
league is a good game
we the player base tend to ruin it sometimes
great vid
the grind is eternal, so is my road to chall
Do it for the grind!
I still play League because of my friends. It's just that game that everyone plays, and when I want to hang out with my friends we just play some matches while on discord.
It is a good game to just jump into with friends for like an hour.
I always think of the champions when I play or watch matches on Twitch. Timeless game.
They have made some really impressive champions for sure!
wonder what the people that have been in silver for 5 yrs feel
I feel very average. I tasted gold once, I don't think I'll ever make it again.
The reason the game is so addictive is because of the use of dark patterns which manipulate you into a feeling of sunken cost. The sunken cost fallacy means that no matter how bad the game makes you feel, quitting feels worse.
Ranked matchmaking is designed to make you play as many games as possible before reaching the rank your skill deserves even though you can be playing against other players of similar skill the whole way there; often with manufactured hot/cold streaks which engender unhealthy play patterns.
Then if you do manage to quit, the esport or other projects like arcane remind you about the game in a positive way, and you forget the toxicity and jump back in to start the process all over again.
Oh ya, it for sure uses all the dirty marketing tricks in the book to keep it going. The sunk cost fallacy is definitely at play here.
i actually quit recently, and im pretty sure i wont go back for good. sure might play a few games here and there but it will be rare. i did "quit" for a year before, but this time i know i wont go back. and honestly its been the best thing ive ever done. the game tilted me beyond belief, and i have a great mental. playing valorant getting to asc 2 has been the most fun ive ever had playing ranked in any game ever. the only bad side is not being able to play with all my friends all the time since a lot of ppl play league, but not everyone plays every other game i play. but i still think quitting league is worth it. the only reason i could recommend it is if ur using it as a way to connect with friends.
Edit: also, great tip is to upload at least 720p, preferably 1080p.
Playing with friends is always appealing. But just know that when they have less friends playing (like you), they'll probably slowly start to leave as well and you can all find something new together.
The 480p was a BIG mistake from rushing the upload and "should" not happen again.
@@talkgamingtome to some degree yeah. some of the people i played with doesnt rly seem to interested in many other games and it is what it is.
some cant play say valorant with some of us due to ranked issues (rank disparity) and i mainly play it for comp. it just is what it is.
i dont regret quitting, tho i would be lying if i said i didnt miss how simple and nice it was to just always have ppl to play with, always people coming by. it was easy and nice to just play league. but oh man did league really hurt my life lmao. all the good parts of league wasnt rly tied to league, it was all just something we all enjoyed.
i dont think league is objectively bad, but i think a lot of the community is. i also think the game just is old, and we are seeing the effects of that. fortnite is getting ariana grande, travis scott, starwars, fuckin thanos... and in league we get little to no new things, but hey at least we got lil nas singing and rapping a worlds anthem??? its not even a part of the game sadly.
to put it into perspective, it apparantly took 2 engineers on the riot team many months just to make a BE sale. that just tells me its time to move on. im loving other riot games, and im rly hyped for the mmo in many years.
sry for that long ramble lmao.
i find it EXTREMELY hard to get into consistently, though i watched ESPORTS for years i just recently started trying to play last year and the toxicity on every lil mistake is insane, its like i go from yea lets play to 2 games in im like ugh i regret playing this game.
Exactly. People are just so quick to blame and pick on every mistake like we are in the pro leagues. People need to chill.
(sorry for my eng) The community of the league, as you know, is not colorful, and I really do not like so much toxicity that is in this game, but this is probably the biggest and only thing that is a hindrance to me. I love the whole storyline of the game or the characters, which is still expanding, the game itself is a lot of fun even after so many years, there are always updates and news, of course it's not always something great or wow because worse things also happen, but nothing has ever discouraged me from this game to completely leave or really get fed up with it because when I feel bored with it, for example, but it has something in it that I soon return and everything is still as it was
Right on. I also enjoy that I can step away, come back whenever and get right back into it.
Yeah, fuck League of Legends, all my homies HATE League of Legends *I say as I'm currently in a ranked queue*
Ha ha, yep that sounds accurate.
i feel the same. and i even hate playing alone ...
There needs to be like a League support group lol
This is why I play TFT. Solo and you don't have to interact with teammates unless you go double up.
I tried it but it's too much thinking for my smooth brain. Maybe it's time to try it again though...
Just out of curiosity, what other league like mobas except heroes of the storm and dota 2 are out there?
Tried to look for something else couple of weeks ago, but honestly there really isn't and whichever ones did exist are now extinct.
Edit: Fyi matchmaking is not equal
I think those are the only ones still around. New ones keep popping up, but they never survive.
Matchmaking is about as equal as it can be. Still has a ton of smurfs but it works both way. It's not a total blowout every game where you have 0 chance.
@@talkgamingtome The Valorant team posted and League team confirmed that their matchmaking works based on "variety mmr" so if you're silver-gold mmr and the opponent is gold-plat mmr while you "visually"(current rank) are silver 4 and the opponent is plat 1, you can match up with that person cause both of your mmr-s cover the gold area.
9/10 times it's gonna be not an enjoyable experience and that 1 time is when the enemy is inting. In my opinion that is not a fair and equal matchmaking system.
The perfect example would be my first ranked game in NA. Me, unranked has to go up against the top1 heimer in the region, a current diamond 2. Sounds like a great introduction.
The worst part of it and which bothered me the most is that Riot said that they think this is the most fair matchmaking just cause if you're in the lower bracket it makes you want to improve and honestly at this point i'm looking to have fun, not improve.
I played the least this year more than the past ten years. But I still can’t quit it. But hey. I wouldn’t trade it for the world. Fuck being a console/casual gamer. I wanna compete. Even if it’s as bronze morg/maple sup only.
Truth. Just a good competitive game you can jump into to kill an hour.
my gf was just laughing at me yesterday because she knows how much I hate this game love to play, and saw me excited about the Aurelion update, and went "ok league...u got me for another year....for now..."
That's how they get ya! Small updates or skins are just enough.
A Sol is a cool new champ, just feels queer to delete his Wisp passive entirely.
@@Nersius woah I didn't know they did that - that is kind of weird.
So right. You are not agaisnt ur enemies but your dear teammates.
It always start so friendly and turns SO fast the second someone messes up.
I'm currently just playing a couple matches per week.
I got tired. The "dopamine" doesn't even affect me anymore. It's actually the opposite.
This game doesn't reward you, it actually punishes you for playing right. The matchmaking gets worse if you play good. And the balance... Omg... It's ridiculous that champs like Garen que just instakill you anytime, while other champs like Akali need to smash buttons like a test your might from Mortal Kombat.
What's the point of learning champions that need skill when you can just pick Garen or Lux and kill everything with just Q + Ult.
The ranks doesn't even make sense. There's so many bad people (like BAD) in diamond or master. While you struggle to get past platinum, because the matchmaking keeps punishing you for being a good player.
I have the same thoughts ALL the time. The most skilled champs are just a bigger challenge for you and aren't even better than spin to win Garen. Maybe that's some of the fun, learning those tough champs, but losing to a Lux or Garen does always feel terrible.
only actual reason to quit is if riot removes your main from the game like they did yorick, galio, aatrox, etc.
Good thing they don't care enough about any adc to hurt me like that...
REAL League of Legends players both love and hate the game. People who say they love League of Legends aren't really League of Legends players.
I think that's very true.
I quit it a couple years ago and I have never been happier.
One day I'll have the strength to stay away - but not yet.
I thought it was impossible to quit but nah it has no hold on me anymore. I only enjoy watching good gameplay and I don’t even know why I even spent so much time on the game when I was clearly not good at it. I think I quit way before the season number turned into double digits
That's a great idea - quitting but still enjoying the content that can come from it.
League of Legends is the Test of Wills and Mentality No Matter How your Good One Word Can Makes the Worst of You Better Quit if you cant Handle Reality in Games No One will Adore you you have to Work it out yourself and Make you tell that your not a Saint but one of the Many that you hate, They called Toxic
Did quit like 2 years ago (I play like a dozen games a year with pals at this point) and once you are off for a while and come back you notice how mediocre the game is. It simply very addictive when you constantly play it
Agreed. Blows my mind even more that it's so addictive because it's really nothing impressive as a game.
Good Video but the 480p trigger me
Thanks and ya, I made an oops and will avoid that in the future....probably.
League and Magic, the two games I’ve played the most and the two games I’ve quited most times. 20 years of mtg and 10 years of League
I've never tried mtg as it seems overwhelming to learn and get into and expensive to stick with it.
@@talkgamingtome Well, today you have Magic Arena, which is free to play digital version. I really like it's tutorial too. Magic has a knowledge curve that is smooth, if you can handle League, you can handle MTG. I'm used to say that Magic costs you the amount you want it to cost. :)
@@DudaWeizenmann Oh boy, I think I may get addicted to another game.
@@talkgamingtome Hope you like it! It is the game of my life!
Glad to see a video that’s not just rah rah League is dying. Personally, I 100% relate to everything you’ve said. It’s a real love/hate relationship. I’ve found myself gravitating to Wild Rift in the past year. It has toxicity, too, but the matches are so much shorter, it doesn’t feel like you’re being held hostage when someone decides to be a 🍆
I've heard good things about Wild Rift and will for sure check it out soon.
i absolutely agree with you. Examining just the game and what it offers shows how complex and nuanced it is, making league truly epic and beautiful. But there exist shitheads living in their bubble of delusion who wake up thinking they are faker and ruining that competitive experience. its why at this point I just play tft and watch esports.
Totally doesnt have to do with the fact that playing ad carry year after year is mentally exhausting and suicide inducing.
I feel that pain of being an adc.
Each win feels like the result of bad balance, ridiculous items and the ego of you or your teammates, yes I agree with that statement
Hey it’s not me I’m not toxic I promise
It's ok, we've all said that.
Playing ranked again after losing 11 games in a row yesterday and being placed in bronze 1 :))
I won and I still got bronze so I feel ya.
@@talkgamingtome Also I don't trust League client stats, even when I play like a monster consistently I still only peak at like A-
I think it has to do more with the design of mobas in general on top of the champion designs. I quite gaming in its entirety for a little more than a year and once I felt like wanted to play again I swept through different genres. I love competitive games and there isn't anything in the current market that can execute the amount of fun and complexity that league offers. Let alone its cosmetics and how great some designs are only comparable to fortnight imo . If they build and innovate on what they have currently this game design will be relevant as long as gaming exists.
Agreed. I hope they do find ways to keep it fresh. I'll even check out this MMO that they apparently have planned.
Becuase the good games as in the close ones where people arnt messing around are fun and challaneging but sadly the majority games are just a messy nightmare, I dont think it that much about winning as when you stomp the enemy the game becasue boring and what you do no longer matters.
Ya a total stomp game isn't fun for anyone. Sometimes you try to end it with a surrender but there is always that person who says no.
I'm actually more toxic when playing Unite lol, even if there isn't a chat there. The fact it's even more braindead addicted chaos with players who don't know how to do anything means I prefer the salty League players because even if everyone's doing their own thing, there's a general understanding on teamwork and winning the game.
It's hard sometimes, but to be successful you have to keep ypur head cool. If you let yourself get distracted by feeding, or teammates feeding, you cant play from behind. This is one reason I like playing the girly champs, because they're bright and cheery, so they encourage you to stay positive. Or Vex, because she doesn't care about anything, why should I tilt when she's apathy incarnate? (Have you ever met a toxic Braum player?)
Ha, good strat. I should main Lux to be more peaceful.
meanwhile me a SEA mfs : *BRING BACK OUR FCKING DRAFT PICK DAMMIT !*
I have fun every time I play and I've been playing since 2011 just mute the jerks and don't expect every game to go exactly how you want it to. Find friends who are tilt proof and just make fun strategies. It's all how you approach the game it doesn't always have to be a weiner measuring contest.
Well said. That seems to be the way to go - just mute all and focus on doing your best and having fun.
I think everyone has some of that competetive side in them but when riot makes stupid balance changes not once , many times after another continiously makes you think they dont care about the game so why should you , ive started in season 5 and by season 7 or 8 i was just done and decided to quit it ive came back once in a while but always came to the same conclusion , riot games just sucks in game design.
Oh I've felt the same, especially when they nerf the adc role (like this season). Takes the whole team to kill a Mundo.
I'm toxic behind the screen. Flaming my team and getting pissed but I never type.
That might be the trick. The second you start typing, everyone loses.
there is no league without toxiciti
At this point, I think that may be true.
I come from a very similar situation. My question is do you regret the time wasted into league and if so, how do you justify the idea of playing more?
Oooo great question. I regret the time I spent early on chasing wins as that would lead to some late nights and never felt good. More recently, I only play a couple times a week and use the game more of a break between other games. It's something I can play for an hour with a clear start and end.
That being said, the most rewarding experiences are in all chat when you mention an idea on how to shutdown an enemy and you can execute the plan with that random teammate. Too bad you get banned for naughty words even though everyone would rather have them not run it down or afk. It's almost like there is a mute button.
Ya, everyone should just start muted - it would save a lot of time.
great video bro
Thanks so much man!
I just hate the toxics, but otherwise, i love this game (with a sprinkle of hate)
Just the tinniest bit of hate...that is sometimes a mountain of hate lol.
I literally reached Master and just found that I was fed up with the fucking toxic people that it’s in that league +. I came back after a two years break. Guess what?. It’s the same.
Well congrats on Master! But ya, the toxic people really hurt the game as a whole and that will probably never change unless there is a huge shift in how the game is experienced or rewards you.
@@talkgamingtome you hear everyone saying that in those leagues people has a different mind, but it’s a whole lie. It’s like every little mistake it’s a real advantage for the enemy, and sometimes there are players that just can’t control their fucking mind and just insult, troll or sometimes just don’t play because they want you to lose on purpose (kinda like in every other league, lol). They push your limits so bad that you leave hurt from that game!!!. It shouldn’t be like that, but ranking it’s a real big deal in those leagues. I just don’t stand that anymore, so I just play normals to have “fun”.
@@talkgamingtome p.s, loved your video 😚
@@Sereny4 Good to know it's the same sort of pressure at all levels. Maybe normals is the way to go but I've found the skill difference there to be WILD as some people try new stuff and others play their mains. Maybe ARAM is the answer lol.
So glad you liked the video!
You're making it big soon, I believe in you
Just try to render videos in higher quality like 720p, you probably just have a wrong setting somewhere in your editing software
Yo thanks, that's a nice thing to say. If I do though, I'll actually have to make more vids lol.
Wild rift removed All Chat, and I thought this was a bad decision because that's a nice feature to have, but then I played some PC league and realized that it's probably for the better.
I need to try it!
The game is incredibly fun if you have a five man team of people you like.
That's crazy....who knows at least 4 other people! Sounds nice though.
I hate going up against 5 stacks by myself. it feels super unfair
You’re about to have more comments than subscribers that’s kinda crazy.
Hahaha I know right? God, I hope I don't have to become a League channel now...that is my nightmare.
It took selling my gaming PC to quit LoL for good.
Oh god, I can't do THAT!
I unplugged my gaming PC and tossed it into the closet earlier this evening. Hopefuly I can quit for longer than a month this time.
Great vid!! :D
Thanks so much! That means a lot.
I don't enjoy league anymore but that's the only game my pc can play.
That is pain. Try like Hearthstone or TFT. Those should be easy enough to handle. If not, Loop Hero and Kingdom are great pixel games.
If i ever genuinely hated league i eould go play dota as i think its a better game.
Though My friends play league and i like the game still.
Man I can't even think about giving dota a try - I have enough problems already.
League's a game I may rest for playing but it's the type of easy to comeback and play again... No matter the issues as long as it's not game breaking... I guess only people that Grind it a day are the ones that gets tired and quit league
For sure. That's part of what makes it "good" is that you can take breaks from it then come back refreshed whenever.
I'm a newer player just starting mid season 12 and I've started saying leauge is like heroine with all the downsides of heroine lol
Hahaha well put.
they could just add a voice chat and the toxicity would be gone but no there is a reason because they dont add it the devs trying everything to keep players at broze silver gold plat if there was a real voice chat everyone would be challanger for sure
If everyone becomes challenger, then no one will be (big brain thoughts).
When someone tells me why i cant quite league of legends i will show them this video
Ha yes, please do!