someone made a hour plus long video essay about why people can't quit league and it basically turned into an overview on how abuser tactics can also be good for marketing
could you tell me the title of that video? i wanna see it also have you noticed how other games that are from other genres also are sorta made to be addicting with casino type mechanics?
The easiest way to quit is to find a new game which is enjoyable and you'd end up playing that one game for the whole week causing you to forget about league. after im burnt out from that one game I just end up not playing video games at all since nothing can compare to the enjoyment i had playing that game.
That didnt work for me Man İ played ds1 ds2 ds3 and elden ring i finished all 3 times witch took me 550 hour but i still went back to league i guess i have problems because i love league thats why i cant leave it
@@keremtastemir8510 I had the same i played Fortnite instead of League during its prime and had the most fun ever playing a video Game with the boys but then when i stopped and had nothing to do, back to League.
@@keremtastemir8510 I played all that and many more soulslikes + other types of games after I stopped playing lol and of course I came back to league. Saying you play a game for a week and forget about league is shortsighted and misses the point of the video. I used to play league during season 3 and 4 and then stopped playing. I came back during season 13 though, of course. Got a new account to lvl 30 and played a ton of ranked for the short amount of time I had since I reached lvl 30. I am bronze 2 now and will probably keep playing, even though I know this game is the worst and my teammates are the same, and I also am not good enough to solo carry even in bronze.
@@keremtastemir8510 I'm a different story since I started with Mobile Legends and have been playing it on and off for about 5 years, coming back to it on big updates. Maybe you could try to play other moba games rather than completely different games like the souls series, though you should still play Armored Core 6 when it comes out in a month. Try Dota 2, Heroes of the Storm, and maybe even Mobile Legends if you have a decent phone.
League's Frustration Game scars you and you keep on playing to prove you are worth more. Until you realize you don't need a rigged game to humiliate you over and over while telling you that you are the problem, you won't break free.
It gets to the point, where they are just evil, instead of being a business. I was stuck in bronze 1 for the longest, I was iron4, i know insane, but i had like a 70 percent win rate and carried myself out of it and jsut got hardstuck. I thought it was me and my low skill level, but then i buy a new lvl 30 account and get silver within a day or 2. It's completely ridiculous
@GrayFoxGX I quit too. It was bad for my mental health. The game is frustrating on purpose to keep you playing. It's kind of like the matrix, it's meant to feel bad but not to bad so you blame yourself and stay. The first matrix failed because it was heaven. It's a psychological tactic. That a lot of online games are using, to the point I don't play them anymore. The only online game I play is mordhau.
@alexandretremblay120 yeah it's crazy,, and I just wan to add I ended up in gold. Imagine a iron 4 player ending up in gold just by changing accounts. Its not in our heads. They have a team of psychogists help design the game.
@Yummynomnom123 @alexandretremblay120 i've heard of similar cases elsewhere. did u fellas climb to higher rank on those new accounts? or immediately placed in those high rank within first 5 rank match? what are the summoner names if you dont mind me asking?
Deleted the account and not looking back. Honestly, if they didn't do these stupid engagement manipulations behind the scene, I would still play it to this day. Being matched with dumber teammates the higher you go just hit the nail on the coffin for this game. They 100% manipulate the matchmaking and the game is balanced in such a way that you can't turn around with dumb teammates. I don't even want to insult the people, but when 100hp ADC gets killed for 30 gold minion after being pinged "recall" 10 times and told in chat that he needs to recall, it just boils my blood. These people are DUMB and they DON'T LISTEN.
League players expect others to just understand the game even as a freshie. It’s so uncharitable most people aren’t going realize that this isn’t a game that treats you right even if you play casually.
@@Pro-DiletanteHe's not talking about the new players. He's talking about people who have played for years, who should absolutely be expected to perform at their skill level.
I'm not so sure that some of the more frustrating people I've encountered are actually people at this point. I am leaning towards the idea that Riot creates bots to fill in matches to satisfy whatever the matchmaking system is trying to do in a given queue. It's already been established that they allow confirmed botted accounts to persist without banning/punishing them, so it's not a stretch to think they would create some (most?) of the botted accounts themselves.
I was a consistent euw booster to masters in S8 and luckily made my bag for the time i invested in learning this game. I can confirm that the matchmaking has gotten worse every season after S9, and the 2nd S13 split is blatantly manipulated. Its with the introduction of Emerald that ranking has gotten to its dying breath. Nowadays the players in gold are more consistent than the players in diamond. For anyone reading this and caring about rank: Ur rank doesnt matter. I see "s13 dia players" getting hard stomped by silver players in random normal games. Its a straight up coinflip until arguably 1000 LP Challenger. The only reason i play from time to time is because i have good enough mechanics to turn games by myself and i have genuine fun doing it. Stay away and force Riot to fix it, they will not do anything if you ppl buy new accounts and grind 400 games every split.
@mclwhite5289 Yeah I can totally see that when I was playing in norms 2 mounths ago as a gold player I did see too many peoples with fresh lvl30 acc being emerald, diamond being bad and wooped their arses, like how the fuck, I got my account from s3( my account is broken to this point lol, repairing it is pain in the ass) and I dont want to make a new account because im quite attached to my main one and I dont want to be part of this stupid smurf mentality. We should have like in korea only 1 account per person it would be more enjoyable but like he said in the video the MMR gain and loses are way unfair to keep you addicted, so I didnt play games of leagues for about 2 mounths because I know they dont want to make their game fair for everyone and honestly Its a really good decision I made but sometime the dopamine crave hit hard but Im telling myself that the game is cringe and its better to put my time elsewhere. Thanks for your view on the game, I was here to calm down my dopamine crave and this video and your comment did hit the spot.
when my friends who are master/low gm play with me (dia) they can instantly tell i do something wrong. When i play with my plat/emerald friends I can instantly tell they did something wrong. Idk why peopel have this crazy nostalgia for the past it's mathematically impossible for someone with like over a hundred games who is diamond to be worse than a silver wtf is this narrative.
permaban helps, its a big moment where its easier to decide to just not create another account. it helped me. so that's it guys, let it all out on all chat, do it so hard that even riot wont have any doubts about your permaban. :)
Its easy to quit league the problem is when you are playing it for fun with friends and they dont want to stop playing league but you really want to play with them so you are like controlled to play just league i dont know how to explain it but hopefully you understood
I played League since release. Back then I was in school, right now I'm a 27 year old man working a 9 to 5. I did actually quit League simply because I let go of delusions that I can actually ever get better, stopped caring about getting better and realized that this game is a massive waste of time. I don't mean it in the "games are a waste of time" sort of way, but in the League specifically wastes too much of your time on scenarios where you are not even having fun. And I think that it's one of the reasons why League players are so toxic, it is because you constantly feel like your time is being wasted either by bullshit from your teammates, or you making a mistake and dooming yourself to suffer for the next 30-40 minutes. Even if your team ends up winning, you will still end up with a miserable experience and a feeling of your time being wasted on an unfun activity. Also back in the days of my youth esports and streamers still haven't ruined online gaming. Right now I just stay clear off any competitive multiplayer game and dress up waifus in FFXIV. It's a peaceful life.
For me, the actual game itself IS super fun, but the player base is cancer. From smurfs, to derank bots, and both soft and hard inters, along with general toxicity, it's just miserable to be around these degenerate freaks. I'm convinced that a good number of people playing LoL don't have anything positive going for them irl, so they take it all out on strangers in a video game and it ruins the enjoyment for everyone else.
If you played the game with the intention of not actually being invested in whatever you're doing in game but to see just how stacked against you the game gets when there is a losing quota that it must fill with you in it, you will begin to notice subtle key-presses, dodges, mechanics, movement speeds, internet irregularities, random freezes, off-ticks on muscle-memory abilities, clicks and autos and ultimately the outcome of all of the subtle rigging that's taking place underneath the fun little game this is for kids that are blissfully unaware.
I was a true one-trick style player. I had two or three champions that I liked and never got bored playing and would easily play hundreds of games in a row on the same champion (unless it was pick/banned of course). I was a Jhin main and would play whole seasons on just Jhin and probably have over a thousand games on him alone. After so many games on the same champion, you very clearly notice when something is off. A last hit doesn't kill, an ability cancels, a hit-box is off, a fourth shot doesn't execute, a bouncing grenade doesn't bounce to a target it should, etc. Those things were frustrating when they happened time to time, but as my awareness of the phenomena grew I began to notice that these performance irregularities always tended to be clumped in specific games. Similar to a "no effing way game" in an EA title (where the computer just decides you are going to lose), there would be games where everything felt off; everything was stickier, more clunky, like a dream where you are throwing punches in slow motion. It was as if some games I was playing with a hidden handicap, and those games became more frequent the more I was winning. I 100% believe they tweak things in-game to alter outcomes. People like to attribute that stuff to "spaghetti code" or "fatigue" or "everyone has bad games". But I cannot discount the distinct pattern of play that emerged so consistently. I've been saying this for at least 4 or 5 years, and the more information comes out about how Riot utilizes engagement based manipulations for the game, the more vindicated I feel in my intuition.
@@Jammonstrald Same deal with me, I primarily played Bard and I really enjoyed playing him because I was dynamic and versatile on him in so many ways but eventually I came to realize that some of his major transformative abilities could no longer be used because there was just no way to calculate anymore, when and how long his abilities were going to take and last which in turn is what caused me to take long breaks - months and then when I returned back to the game hit it off for a few only to begin noticing the discrepancies again in certain games which fill you with anxiety when you can't land abilities that are supposed to hit and then getting spam-flamed in chat because it's one of 'those' games. Edit: Basically, the game gaslights you and everything that you think you know about yourself.
I understand it can be hard, but quit playing this game guys. You're not even actually playing a game, because you aren't allowed to know the rules that you are playing with, and those rules are arbitrarily changed behind your back (mmr, lp gains, loser's queue, engagement matchmaking, etc.). It's in Riot's financial interest to coerce people into creating smurf accounts, it's in their interest to manipulate matches to elicit desired psychological outcomes, and it's in their interest that the system is inherently "unfun" and toxic. Given what is known about how Riot manipulates the game environment, I am also highly suspicious that they manipulate in-game actions/numbers as well for the same reasons. What is known is that League is inherently designed not for fun or fulfilling matches, but for frustrating matches that get you chasing dopamine hits. They designed a very elaborate slot machine.
finally someone adressed this. this is not a conspiracy, ive been saying this for years. the whole game design, the mmr system, the sounds, champion voice lines... everything is designed by professionals so the game hooks you and you dont stop playing. its very insidious if you think about it, there is a reason why this game has been on top for so long, its a drug. stop now, its not worth your time and energy. lets boycot. quit now.
I started playing league around the end of S4 and the beginning of S5, and that was the best time I had playing this game. I quit because I realized it will never go back to what it was anymore, it's just not the same game I used to love... I almost got kicked out of university because I couldn't stop playing during my first and second year. My grades, friendship, and social life suffered to the point where I cannot even recognize myself anymore. Moreover, my life was completely filled by playing league everyday for countless hours, and I was too embarrassed to tell anyone about my gaming addictions. I tried to quit by uninstalling the game quite a few times before, but it was only since June of 2020 when I managed to quit completely. On the day that I quit, I was so angry and frustrated that I lost countless ranked games in a row, to the point where I almost raged after I lost a couple of meaningless ARAM games just trying to win for once. I was no longer having fun but rather playing just because couple of friends who introduced me to the game were still playing. What really hit me was the sudden realization that I've put my blood and sweat over all these years, yet I was still hard stuck gold and couldn't win a single game that day no matter how hard I tried. I had never lost my mind like that before and I knew that I just couldn't take it anymore, so I deleted the game one last time for good. Since then, I haven't touched the game and I absolutely don't have any desire to play it again. I regretted wasting six years of precious time, life, and money on this game, and it's something that I can never get back. Looking back at it, I don't miss this game at all. It was simply one of the best decisions I've made as it changed my life completely. I became a much happier person, as I found my purpose and calling in life through my church. In terms of my career, I made the decision to pursue a career in education after I quit. More importantly, just a few months after I quit I met my girlfriend, and we have been dating for over a year now. Honestly, I don't think I would have gotten a girlfriend if I continued playing. Your life will be in a much better state when you stop wasting your money and time on something that's literally a virtual reward and data. Seriously guys life is too valuable to continue to waste it on something like this…
Holy shit were you fucking addicted, holy shit, dont ever try alcohol, nicotine, sex, porn or anything at all, cause you get fucking addicted like a rat to its first meat bite.
Really well made video. I got hooked on the game originally for the gameplay but have quit a few times since 2011 once i understood the ins and outs. I realised skill and knowledge are rendered irrelevant by the developer through match and ladder manipulation unless you spend your life on the game. The only reason to replace the elo system was to get people addicted! People should be protected from this kind of manipulation
Just quit yesterday and unfollowed all social media related to League. Feels liberating I will have so much free time to do meaningful things like spend time with fiancé and dog and also read and work out more!
Old buddy of mine who i played with years ago, decided to come back to the game after a 4 year hiatus. His OG account was decayed into bronze, and he was absolutely hardstuck coming back. He makes a new account and he's already on his way to plat.. lmfao
This is the reason I don't play ranked, I just play a game or two of normals on and of over the course of like a day, I do this for 2 months, then I just take a break for a month. Also just play with friends in normals
Loser's Que is not a thing. What is the most common winrates that people Climb with? it's around 55% and if you have this winrate its not uncommon to lose 5-8 games in a row according to your winrate.
Hidden mmr systems, Josh menke, plenty of devs criticizing modern matchmaking prove losers que is real. There is losers que and winners que the systems algorithms already know who is going to win or lose. It's about optimizing engagement, not fair balanced matches.
i mean it's a cool idea but needs way more evidence. The "loser q" and "lp gain" thing can't be determined with singular examples. You also said that you were a plat player and made a smurf and got to Masters. That is something i have never heard of in my years of uses lvl 30 accounts.
Yes i had a entire threat on my script about in depth analysis of losers que but then put it out of it since i felt like it would take over the majority of the video and the video should be about why u cant quit the game rather than about proving losers que, but maybe i should have put some more of it in the video aswell. Thats for the constructive critics this is exactly what i need appreciate it. About the hitting Master on a smurf acc i have the whole journey on another Video called i played league for 30days straight.
Some time ago i said the losers q exists in some form or another but i did not have any proof. So I take back these words and i apologize for the slander. I am liar.
I left League when I started getting better dopamine hits playing other games. Killing someone in Apex Legends feels 100x better than killing someone in League. Tried playing league again but it felt so boring and slow after playing other games, so I quit permanently
watching this after i quit with ease. but ur point still stands - i already quit 2021, started 3 weeks ago to realize how much of a life-wasting toxic game it really is. now i quit again, maybe i play in 3 years again.
I really enjoyed and appreciated this video. Your pacing while speaking was good and it made every sentence feel like it had importance, so it made us attentive and made your ideas easy to udnerstand. Keep it up. For me I understood all these issues, I realized that playing ranked was a scam, and I would only play to get all the ranked rewards and then stop . Then I would usually play normals and play to get skins. But even now I realized that it is way too grindy. Now I just play for events and with friends, but I have been thinking of dorpping this game alltogether because of the terrible decisions and apathy shown from this company as well as their abysmal standards for this game and the user experience.
I did quit. 😀 the moment i could quit was when i release that Riot focus is not the player, but focus on Pro play only. -All the balances are focused on pro play -The game got reworked from how you play will reward (win) you LP > to depended on others (the team) will reward you your LP. -All the new introduced stuff is focused on pro play. They always say how to make the player excitement. But in reality they wanna use the pro players do those stuff, so the normal players wanne be like him. Casual stuff like winter map horrow map and all easy to use runes and masterys and champs are all gone. "We want more interaction, so we make the game harder to play. From point and click to pure skill bases". Example older champs, like GP and fiora. Easy to use, but reworked so its harder to use
The key is to be busy with other things, like other games and hobbies. The hardest part is leaving behind your friends or community, or thinking about the sunk cost fallacy. But in reality you lose nothing. Just find better things to do and become busy with them, even like playing more user-friendly games by good companies.
The only reason i play is my friend group. We met on league and never had another game we would all go to, even while we all curse the game and the fact that we're playing it
Skill based matchmaking is implemented in league. The developer is lying. There is proof in the code leaked that happened a while ago, there is also interviews from the original guy who made the league matchmaking that he made to be based in fun and not fair and having something akin to 2w, 2l and 1 contested game(the game where you playing good or poorly can decided the outcome) on average. This is excluded if you, 1- are a new player(really account), 2-if you are a in a winning streak(5+w) or 3-if you are coming back to the game after being inactive for 2 months. You also can't get auto-filled if you are in a winning streak(5+w)
There are also in depth threats and alysis of it that prove the exact opposite and from a logical standpoint of view it would only make sense for Riot to implement a fixed matchmaking, i know not one single big company that would know a way to improve profits but not capitalize on it
@@ronaldoplays8648Well big corporations think that people are most likely to stick with a game when it's fun and they know that it's most fun on average when people are queued against opponents of similar skill and win around half their games. That's why pretty much all competitive games queue people based on some elo system. I don't see any reason to believe in any conspiracies.
Thanks to vanguard i was finally forced to quit because the game absolutely would not run on my pc without a bunch of tweaks and i dont feel comfortable disabling all security.
Why is your channel so small?? I never watched any of your videos, this one just got recommended to me, but this is awsome. I tried doing research myself on this toxic game, that destroys its playerbases mental, but i never imagined i would stumble over such a great video. Keep this great work up man, fantastic video; not only did you describe the key mechanisms, but you proved your points with statistics and science. I didnt even think about this omnipresence argument, but you are absolutely right! Where did you get allof this information from, i would love to know? Much love man
Ngl, I remember being in losers queue for Aram 🤣 my homies were like “broooo how tf you lose 10 Aram games in a row???” I was super close to completing my “ARAM God” title and I just couldn’t get it. Eventually got it a month later after that tho. Have had zero incentive to play that game because all the homies who still played switched up on me after quitting 🤣
This is exactly why riot Nerf Sion. The fact that thebauffs didn't get hard stuck in diamond was a red flag to them. Sion's win rate was even trash at the time. My main account has been stuck in gold for a long time, I have an all but don't play and I started playing ranked on it and got to Plat extremely easily. I stopped playing right cuz I realized it was a rigged game.
thats absolutelty true i reached silver 1 like 3 times every time in promos the games are unwinnable, an advice this is just a GAME don't play ranked play normal and enjoy your time.
Don't quit league of legends, just change type of game you play, quit ranked, happiest time i had playing moba was in dota 2 playing normal games... i don't know why i even started playing ranked games, if you really can/t quit ranked games, better learn to play dota 2, where 1 player can obliterate enemy team, also not every single hero have stun in his kit, life steal and hp regen its not jack shit, and comeback its real.. players are dumb, but they are 50 times smarter then your average league player, i don't recall ever having 0-40 bot lane, like i do in every single league game
I think is going to be a great video but most of the content is just discussing about something that has been proven to be false. Loser queue doesn’t even exist.
Did riot say it doesn't exist? even then I would be inclined to believe they have their own system which work similarly and they are instead denying some strawman.
@@dakkonthegithzerai3867 I am by no means an expert on the topic, but basically it is Riot's anti-cheat soft wear that has a VERY high amount of control over your PC (which is what people are talking about whenever you hear them say that it runs at the "kernel level" of your pc; a very deep level). The control it has over your pc isn't the only issue, but it is the main one.
The system is skill based my friend you are wrong. Its just that you lose sometimes even if you do everything right. But in 100 games you will win 60-70 if you do everything right all the time. That will give you a lot more lp than what you lose and you will eventually climb to a higher elo. That repeats until you reach an elo that most players are as good as you. Then you will get stuck. A team based game cannot be 100% on your performance. People will make mistakes very often. Its up to you to not make those mistakes worse than what they already are.
The new season's changes in balance and monetization did it for me. Riot clearly does not care for the players' experience and has been focused on farming whales with worse and worse cosmetics for years. Can proudly say I haven't touched it since february and the news that come up in my feeds keep confirming my decision as the right one. It's almost summer time. Just go outside. It's free and actually meaningful.
I agree. This game and company do not care about the player experience at all and only make the process unnecessarily grindy and frustrating, which is not what games are supposed to be. They make bad decisions that do not care about player experience and concerns.
I've quit LoL twice now, but coming back this time I just play ARAM. Wanna play serious, rank up, improve ? I just play a fighting game and that does it way better
i did thanks to vanguard not cause i was cheating just cause i didn't want that shit running constantly sadly not everyone is like that and will say it has been tempting to come back sometimes
once i lose a game i stop playing that account for roughly 24 hours, this way the system see i have a high churn rate when a get a lose, win im force to go till i get that loss so they see i churn very easily for each lost. it also why i have 40 1$ accts lol
9 months after this video riot messaged me saying I am ready to install vanguard, with only okay as and option and no way out "alt F4" uninstall and I quit fuck riot and there dunce devs.
why? bcs. there no game simular to LOL.,no fast game paly ( DotA2 is to slow game play) they dont want to fix all bad thing in game to make her much btr..one of this bad thiing is mmr . if u have old acc. and ur mmr. get freeez forever , there no climb for u anymore...best fix for that is to reset mmr. every 1 year or some bigger period ...
I think your argument has some holes. 1. Losers' Queue is a fundamentally flawed concept. Losers' queue implies that riot can accurately measure skill and then manipulate the matchmaking to keep you chasing dopamine hits; which is way harder than simply having a matchmaking system that pairs you with a close to 50% win rate. After all; if the goal of the matchmaking system is to give you an equally skilled set of opponents, where either side could win; you would expect players to cap out in rank at a 50% win rate in aggregate. It is far more likely that the MMS sees you winning too much and decides to give you harder and harder opponents; or weights your skill higher than your teammates until you start to hit a wall. Once you hit that wall and lose a bunch, the system can recalibrate to put you with people that are weaker players. The added component of tilt / exhausition or off role-ing is a big part to the chaos of the MMS, and is likely due to the perceived "unfairness" of the teammates one gets put with. 2. On another note, it's hard to call league an addiction off the merits of playing the game giving a dopamine increase. Your body naturally produces this chemical in response to eating, or other basic life functions. League has been refined to be a very fun and engaging game, and there is nothing inherently wrong with spending free time to play a game that is challenging, yet exciting in the moment-to-moment gameplay. The issue with addiction is when it prevents you from engaging in normal life or when you pursue it self-destructively. The vast majority of people that I have met through the game do not play an excessive amount, or grind ranked habitually. For me personally, I have played the game since S2, and after skipping a season, attained my ranked goal with a 70% wr. 3. That said, the ranked ladder is designed to make you play more than necessary. I started my placements in my ending MMR, but took 36 games to get there with a 70% win rate. I started multiple tiers below my MMR in ranking, which was total bullshit because of the unnecessary separation between rank and MMR. This is definitely a bad thing for the average player, as it inflates the time required to play the game to get their desired rank; but i wouldn't call it addictive; the only reason I even played ranked again was because I approached it with a different mentality and don't worry about friends caring about my rank; I know my skill level, and so do my friends, I have nothing to prove. However; getting to play against better players is a nice end result of tryharding in ranked. 4. The idea that you have fixed match making is a bit off-base. The likely truth is just that the game is always trying to push you towards a 50% win rate, and so if you go on a win streak; the game will put you against harder lobbies until your winrate starts to go down. The only people who can escape this are those who are so beyond their current rank that the system fails to introduce significant challenge before the player attains the rank they desire (lower than their actual skill, but with sufficient rewards) or if the player is a truly top-tier player, there may be no harder lobbies to face, and so that top #1 player can reliably carry assuming their skill is high enough to never be eclipsed by another set of players. Overall; i think league is no more addictive than any other video game or hobby; but it is easier to play a game of league than to drive to the hobby store to buy goods; playing the game is free and only costs your time and emotional energy.
I appreciate your pure mindset. 1. First point you make is that its not possible to measure what team will win, well it actually is extremely easy to measure and there have been ppl making outside programs to measure which team will win before the game started and were extremely accurate. So for Riot it is easy to replicate that with the amount of Data they have. 2. Im glad you feel that way. Me personally i think it is a bit concerning to play the same game for over a decade and i know for a fact that a lot of people have suffered from League addiction more than any other Game i know. 3. You state that it is designed to make you play longer to get to ur desired rank which is correct and the reason they do that is for delayed gratification. Ways to do that is like mentioned the mmr system or fixed matchmaking. 4. Why would a big company forgo a way to increase their profits? It may only cost time, but time is the most precious resource we have.
And when you come back, you are in winner's queue for a few games to make sure you stay addicted.
I always found it strange how after a week of not playing the game, instead of being rusty I win a bunch of games in a roll.
Amazing insight video.
haha here i thought i was the problem "just need sleep bro"
No, you are deranked and it takes a while for the game to place you.
Yes. That's what HotS does too btw. They use a lot of dirty tricks. And gaslight the community into thinking it is all fair and clean.
someone made a hour plus long video essay about why people can't quit league and it basically turned into an overview on how abuser tactics can also be good for marketing
could you tell me the title of that video? i wanna see it also have you noticed how other games that are from other genres also are sorta made to be addicting with casino type mechanics?
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The easiest way to quit is to find a new game which is enjoyable and you'd end up playing that one game for the whole week causing you to forget about league. after im burnt out from that one game I just end up not playing video games at all since nothing can compare to the enjoyment i had playing that game.
That didnt work for me Man
İ played ds1 ds2 ds3 and elden ring i finished all 3 times witch took me 550 hour but i still went back to league i guess i have problems because i love league thats why i cant leave it
@@keremtastemir8510 I had the same i played Fortnite instead of League during its prime and had the most fun ever playing a video Game with the boys but then when i stopped and had nothing to do, back to League.
@@keremtastemir8510 I played all that and many more soulslikes + other types of games after I stopped playing lol and of course I came back to league. Saying you play a game for a week and forget about league is shortsighted and misses the point of the video. I used to play league during season 3 and 4 and then stopped playing. I came back during season 13 though, of course. Got a new account to lvl 30 and played a ton of ranked for the short amount of time I had since I reached lvl 30. I am bronze 2 now and will probably keep playing, even though I know this game is the worst and my teammates are the same, and I also am not good enough to solo carry even in bronze.
@@keremtastemir8510 I'm a different story since I started with Mobile Legends and have been playing it on and off for about 5 years, coming back to it on big updates. Maybe you could try to play other moba games rather than completely different games like the souls series, though you should still play Armored Core 6 when it comes out in a month. Try Dota 2, Heroes of the Storm, and maybe even Mobile Legends if you have a decent phone.
League's Frustration Game scars you and you keep on playing to prove you are worth more. Until you realize you don't need a rigged game to humiliate you over and over while telling you that you are the problem, you won't break free.
Play online chess like Tyler1 instead. No hidden MMR, no loser queue and you also get your dopamine hit, when crushing your enemy.
bro, chess is addicted as hell, dont rec it
I can play chess from 9 to 5 nonstop
Chess players believe in the same bullshit and constantly cope by suspecting others of cheating.
@@MrCmon113 If you lose in chess, you can only blame yourself.
@@friedrichschnobel4000You'd think so, but that's not the case. Chess players also find ways of complaining about matchmaking and other shit.
i like how i just watched a video of how im addicted to league then i feel like hopping on league lmao
dude i was thinking the same.
It gets to the point, where they are just evil, instead of being a business. I was stuck in bronze 1 for the longest, I was iron4, i know insane, but i had like a 70 percent win rate and carried myself out of it and jsut got hardstuck. I thought it was me and my low skill level, but then i buy a new lvl 30 account and get silver within a day or 2. It's completely ridiculous
i used to be hardstuck bronze, i created a new account and now im gold 2 with a lower winrate
My main account was iron 1, my smurf ended up in plat 3. I quit by now which is the most important thing
@GrayFoxGX I quit too. It was bad for my mental health. The game is frustrating on purpose to keep you playing. It's kind of like the matrix, it's meant to feel bad but not to bad so you blame yourself and stay. The first matrix failed because it was heaven. It's a psychological tactic. That a lot of online games are using, to the point I don't play them anymore. The only online game I play is mordhau.
@alexandretremblay120 yeah it's crazy,, and I just wan to add I ended up in gold. Imagine a iron 4 player ending up in gold just by changing accounts. Its not in our heads. They have a team of psychogists help design the game.
@Yummynomnom123 @alexandretremblay120 i've heard of similar cases elsewhere. did u fellas climb to higher rank on those new accounts? or immediately placed in those high rank within first 5 rank match? what are the summoner names if you dont mind me asking?
Deleted the account and not looking back. Honestly, if they didn't do these stupid engagement manipulations behind the scene, I would still play it to this day. Being matched with dumber teammates the higher you go just hit the nail on the coffin for this game. They 100% manipulate the matchmaking and the game is balanced in such a way that you can't turn around with dumb teammates.
I don't even want to insult the people, but when 100hp ADC gets killed for 30 gold minion after being pinged "recall" 10 times and told in chat that he needs to recall, it just boils my blood. These people are DUMB and they DON'T LISTEN.
League players expect others to just understand the game even as a freshie. It’s so uncharitable most people aren’t going realize that this isn’t a game that treats you right even if you play casually.
@@Pro-DiletanteHe's not talking about the new players. He's talking about people who have played for years, who should absolutely be expected to perform at their skill level.
I'm not so sure that some of the more frustrating people I've encountered are actually people at this point. I am leaning towards the idea that Riot creates bots to fill in matches to satisfy whatever the matchmaking system is trying to do in a given queue. It's already been established that they allow confirmed botted accounts to persist without banning/punishing them, so it's not a stretch to think they would create some (most?) of the botted accounts themselves.
I was a consistent euw booster to masters in S8 and luckily made my bag for the time i invested in learning this game.
I can confirm that the matchmaking has gotten worse every season after S9, and the 2nd S13 split is blatantly manipulated.
Its with the introduction of Emerald that ranking has gotten to its dying breath. Nowadays the players in gold are more consistent than the players in diamond.
For anyone reading this and caring about rank: Ur rank doesnt matter. I see "s13 dia players" getting hard stomped by silver players in random normal games. Its a straight up coinflip until arguably 1000 LP Challenger.
The only reason i play from time to time is because i have good enough mechanics to turn games by myself and i have genuine fun doing it.
Stay away and force Riot to fix it, they will not do anything if you ppl buy new accounts and grind 400 games every split.
@mclwhite5289 Yeah I can totally see that when I was playing in norms 2 mounths ago as a gold player I did see too many peoples with fresh lvl30 acc being emerald, diamond being bad and wooped their arses, like how the fuck, I got my account from s3( my account is broken to this point lol, repairing it is pain in the ass) and I dont want to make a new account because im quite attached to my main one and I dont want to be part of this stupid smurf mentality.
We should have like in korea only 1 account per person it would be more enjoyable but like he said in the video the MMR gain and loses are way unfair to keep you addicted, so I didnt play games of leagues for about 2 mounths because I know they dont want to make their game fair for everyone and honestly Its a really good decision I made but sometime the dopamine crave hit hard but Im telling myself that the game is cringe and its better to put my time elsewhere.
Thanks for your view on the game, I was here to calm down my dopamine crave and this video and your comment did hit the spot.
when my friends who are master/low gm play with me (dia) they can instantly tell i do something wrong. When i play with my plat/emerald friends I can instantly tell they did something wrong. Idk why peopel have this crazy nostalgia for the past it's mathematically impossible for someone with like over a hundred games who is diamond to be worse than a silver wtf is this narrative.
permaban helps, its a big moment where its easier to decide to just not create another account. it helped me. so that's it guys, let it all out on all chat, do it so hard that even riot wont have any doubts about your permaban. :)
Its easy to quit league the problem is when you are playing it for fun with friends and they dont want to stop playing league but you really want to play with them so you are like controlled to play just league i dont know how to explain it but hopefully you understood
I know what u mean i went briefly over it on the Omnipresence part
I played League since release. Back then I was in school, right now I'm a 27 year old man working a 9 to 5. I did actually quit League simply because I let go of delusions that I can actually ever get better, stopped caring about getting better and realized that this game is a massive waste of time.
I don't mean it in the "games are a waste of time" sort of way, but in the League specifically wastes too much of your time on scenarios where you are not even having fun. And I think that it's one of the reasons why League players are so toxic, it is because you constantly feel like your time is being wasted either by bullshit from your teammates, or you making a mistake and dooming yourself to suffer for the next 30-40 minutes. Even if your team ends up winning, you will still end up with a miserable experience and a feeling of your time being wasted on an unfun activity.
Also back in the days of my youth esports and streamers still haven't ruined online gaming. Right now I just stay clear off any competitive multiplayer game and dress up waifus in FFXIV. It's a peaceful life.
i think recreational drug use is mentally safer than playing this game.
oh I see you literally added this to the video :D MB
For me, the actual game itself IS super fun, but the player base is cancer. From smurfs, to derank bots, and both soft and hard inters, along with general toxicity, it's just miserable to be around these degenerate freaks. I'm convinced that a good number of people playing LoL don't have anything positive going for them irl, so they take it all out on strangers in a video game and it ruins the enjoyment for everyone else.
If you played the game with the intention of not actually being invested in whatever you're doing in game but to see just how stacked against you the game gets when there is a losing quota that it must fill with you in it, you will begin to notice subtle key-presses, dodges, mechanics, movement speeds, internet irregularities, random freezes, off-ticks on muscle-memory abilities, clicks and autos and ultimately the outcome of all of the subtle rigging that's taking place underneath the fun little game this is for kids that are blissfully unaware.
Yeah there’s a really interesting studies done it’s called engagement optimized matchmaking or EOMM for short
THIS. Needs more upvotes
no way lil bro just said they are rigging games 💀 actually shizo 💀
I was a true one-trick style player. I had two or three champions that I liked and never got bored playing and would easily play hundreds of games in a row on the same champion (unless it was pick/banned of course). I was a Jhin main and would play whole seasons on just Jhin and probably have over a thousand games on him alone. After so many games on the same champion, you very clearly notice when something is off. A last hit doesn't kill, an ability cancels, a hit-box is off, a fourth shot doesn't execute, a bouncing grenade doesn't bounce to a target it should, etc. Those things were frustrating when they happened time to time, but as my awareness of the phenomena grew I began to notice that these performance irregularities always tended to be clumped in specific games. Similar to a "no effing way game" in an EA title (where the computer just decides you are going to lose), there would be games where everything felt off; everything was stickier, more clunky, like a dream where you are throwing punches in slow motion. It was as if some games I was playing with a hidden handicap, and those games became more frequent the more I was winning. I 100% believe they tweak things in-game to alter outcomes. People like to attribute that stuff to "spaghetti code" or "fatigue" or "everyone has bad games". But I cannot discount the distinct pattern of play that emerged so consistently. I've been saying this for at least 4 or 5 years, and the more information comes out about how Riot utilizes engagement based manipulations for the game, the more vindicated I feel in my intuition.
@@Jammonstrald Same deal with me, I primarily played Bard and I really enjoyed playing him because I was dynamic and versatile on him in so many ways but eventually I came to realize that some of his major transformative abilities could no longer be used because there was just no way to calculate anymore, when and how long his abilities were going to take and last which in turn is what caused me to take long breaks - months and then when I returned back to the game hit it off for a few only to begin noticing the discrepancies again in certain games which fill you with anxiety when you can't land abilities that are supposed to hit and then getting spam-flamed in chat because it's one of 'those' games.
Edit: Basically, the game gaslights you and everything that you think you know about yourself.
stomping enemys doesnt feel good. it feels undeserved because the enemy are probably in loosers queue
I just smurf, so I stomp even when the shitty company puts me in losers queue
Yeah it's weird. It has become like this: Either you stomp the enemies or the enemies completely stomp you. Before it was more even and interesting.
I understand it can be hard, but quit playing this game guys. You're not even actually playing a game, because you aren't allowed to know the rules that you are playing with, and those rules are arbitrarily changed behind your back (mmr, lp gains, loser's queue, engagement matchmaking, etc.). It's in Riot's financial interest to coerce people into creating smurf accounts, it's in their interest to manipulate matches to elicit desired psychological outcomes, and it's in their interest that the system is inherently "unfun" and toxic. Given what is known about how Riot manipulates the game environment, I am also highly suspicious that they manipulate in-game actions/numbers as well for the same reasons. What is known is that League is inherently designed not for fun or fulfilling matches, but for frustrating matches that get you chasing dopamine hits. They designed a very elaborate slot machine.
finally someone adressed this. this is not a conspiracy, ive been saying this for years. the whole game design, the mmr system, the sounds, champion voice lines... everything is designed by professionals so the game hooks you and you dont stop playing. its very insidious if you think about it, there is a reason why this game has been on top for so long, its a drug. stop now, its not worth your time and energy. lets boycot. quit now.
I started playing league around the end of S4 and the beginning of S5, and that was the best time I had playing this game. I quit because I realized it will never go back to what it was anymore, it's just not the same game I used to love...
I almost got kicked out of university because I couldn't stop playing during my first and second year. My grades, friendship, and social life suffered to the point where I cannot even recognize myself anymore. Moreover, my life was completely filled by playing league everyday for countless hours, and I was too embarrassed to tell anyone about my gaming addictions. I tried to quit by uninstalling the game quite a few times before, but it was only since June of 2020 when I managed to quit completely. On the day that I quit, I was so angry and frustrated that I lost countless ranked games in a row, to the point where I almost raged after I lost a couple of meaningless ARAM games just trying to win for once. I was no longer having fun but rather playing just because couple of friends who introduced me to the game were still playing. What really hit me was the sudden realization that I've put my blood and sweat over all these years, yet I was still hard stuck gold and couldn't win a single game that day no matter how hard I tried. I had never lost my mind like that before and I knew that I just couldn't take it anymore, so I deleted the game one last time for good. Since then, I haven't touched the game and I absolutely don't have any desire to play it again.
I regretted wasting six years of precious time, life, and money on this game, and it's something that I can never get back. Looking back at it, I don't miss this game at all. It was simply one of the best decisions I've made as it changed my life completely. I became a much happier person, as I found my purpose and calling in life through my church. In terms of my career, I made the decision to pursue a career in education after I quit. More importantly, just a few months after I quit I met my girlfriend, and we have been dating for over a year now. Honestly, I don't think I would have gotten a girlfriend if I continued playing. Your life will be in a much better state when you stop wasting your money and time on something that's literally a virtual reward and data. Seriously guys life is too valuable to continue to waste it on something like this…
Kudos to you, I feel inspired by just reading your statement and i wish you all the best.
@@MathiasReb Thank you! Best wishes to you as well
Holy shit were you fucking addicted, holy shit, dont ever try alcohol, nicotine, sex, porn or anything at all, cause you get fucking addicted like a rat to its first meat bite.
Really well made video. I got hooked on the game originally for the gameplay but have quit a few times since 2011 once i understood the ins and outs. I realised skill and knowledge are rendered irrelevant by the developer through match and ladder manipulation unless you spend your life on the game. The only reason to replace the elo system was to get people addicted! People should be protected from this kind of manipulation
quit since 2020, my only regret is not doing it earlier
I quit in 2020 as well, relapsed this year and now struggling to quit again.
Just quit yesterday and unfollowed all social media related to League. Feels liberating I will have so much free time to do meaningful things like spend time with fiancé and dog and also read and work out more!
So how are you enjoying the current league season so far
@@iciclearms Lol I've been league free for almost a year now
Old buddy of mine who i played with years ago, decided to come back to the game after a 4 year hiatus. His OG account was decayed into bronze, and he was absolutely hardstuck coming back. He makes a new account and he's already on his way to plat.. lmfao
1 year later and this is still relevant for me
This is the reason I don't play ranked, I just play a game or two of normals on and of over the course of like a day, I do this for 2 months, then I just take a break for a month.
Also just play with friends in normals
Loser's Que is not a thing. What is the most common winrates that people Climb with? it's around 55% and if you have this winrate its not uncommon to lose 5-8 games in a row according to your winrate.
@yosinpai1987 thats why i said around 55%
Hidden mmr systems, Josh menke, plenty of devs criticizing modern matchmaking prove losers que is real.
There is losers que and winners que the systems algorithms already know who is going to win or lose.
It's about optimizing engagement, not fair balanced matches.
where emotions are initially strong, addiction follows.
You don't understand how grateful I am for this video. ❤
i mean it's a cool idea but needs way more evidence. The "loser q" and "lp gain" thing can't be determined with singular examples.
You also said that you were a plat player and made a smurf and got to Masters. That is something i have never heard of in my years of uses lvl 30 accounts.
Yes i had a entire threat on my script about in depth analysis of losers que but then put it out of it since i felt like it would take over the majority of the video and the video should be about why u cant quit the game rather than about proving losers que, but maybe i should have put some more of it in the video aswell. Thats for the constructive critics this is exactly what i need appreciate it. About the hitting Master on a smurf acc i have the whole journey on another Video called i played league for 30days straight.
Some time ago i said the losers q exists in some form or another but i did not have any proof. So I take back these words and i apologize for the slander. I am liar.
I left League when I started getting better dopamine hits playing other games. Killing someone in Apex Legends feels 100x better than killing someone in League. Tried playing league again but it felt so boring and slow after playing other games, so I quit permanently
The imbalanced game has made me hate the game soo much that even the addiction cannot hold me .
I'm just addicted to it because i feel alone and it's nice to interact with other people.
in LoL of all things?
Most of the time (with randos at least) it's less like interaction and more like willing abuse. It's like staying in a toxic relationship sometimes. 😂
@@alekanzus it's true that it's literally a dopamine hit whenever somebody recognizes your skills in game.
i'm in queue while watching this
same
watching this after i quit with ease. but ur point still stands - i already quit 2021, started 3 weeks ago to realize how much of a life-wasting toxic game it really is. now i quit again, maybe i play in 3 years again.
This high quality material reminds me of the old youtube somehow
this game truly is a cancer
i hit master on euw twice and now im ready to retire with my legacy
I really enjoyed and appreciated this video.
Your pacing while speaking was good and it made every sentence feel like it had importance, so it made us attentive and made your ideas easy to udnerstand. Keep it up.
For me I understood all these issues, I realized that playing ranked was a scam, and I would only play to get all the ranked rewards and then stop . Then I would usually play normals and play to get skins. But even now I realized that it is way too grindy. Now I just play for events and with friends, but I have been thinking of dorpping this game alltogether because of the terrible decisions and apathy shown from this company as well as their abysmal standards for this game and the user experience.
i haven't played league since 2020 and i feel much better
less like drugs and more like gambling, but no one makes money and everyone loses years of their lives.
I did quit. 😀 the moment i could quit was when i release that Riot focus is not the player, but focus on Pro play only.
-All the balances are focused on pro play
-The game got reworked from how you play will reward (win) you LP > to depended on others (the team) will reward you your LP.
-All the new introduced stuff is focused on pro play. They always say how to make the player excitement. But in reality they wanna use the pro players do those stuff, so the normal players wanne be like him.
Casual stuff like winter map horrow map and all easy to use runes and masterys and champs are all gone. "We want more interaction, so we make the game harder to play. From point and click to pure skill bases". Example older champs, like GP and fiora. Easy to use, but reworked so its harder to use
I quit on February of the current year. It was the easiest thing to do. Just try harder and get other hings to live for, nerds.
I quit for 4 years then relapsed back in February, still playing today this game is no joke addictive af. Trying to quit again.
uninstall is key and remind yourself to do something else
The key is to be busy with other things, like other games and hobbies. The hardest part is leaving behind your friends or community, or thinking about the sunk cost fallacy. But in reality you lose nothing. Just find better things to do and become busy with them, even like playing more user-friendly games by good companies.
The only reason i play is my friend group. We met on league and never had another game we would all go to, even while we all curse the game and the fact that we're playing it
My ass this guy went from plat to masters 😂
"Why you cant quit League of Legends"
Me returning after hiatus gets oblierated at first match : "Aight Bet"
bro speaking facts it take me years to stop 7 years and tbh , you wasting your time
Skill based matchmaking is implemented in league. The developer is lying. There is proof in the code leaked that happened a while ago, there is also interviews from the original guy who made the league matchmaking that he made to be based in fun and not fair and having something akin to 2w, 2l and 1 contested game(the game where you playing good or poorly can decided the outcome) on average. This is excluded if you, 1- are a new player(really account), 2-if you are a in a winning streak(5+w) or 3-if you are coming back to the game after being inactive for 2 months. You also can't get auto-filled if you are in a winning streak(5+w)
Analysts literally mined LoL and replicated the matchmaking and found that it was completely random.
There are also in depth threats and alysis of it that prove the exact opposite and from a logical standpoint of view it would only make sense for Riot to implement a fixed matchmaking, i know not one single big company that would know a way to improve profits but not capitalize on it
@@ronaldoplays8648Well big corporations think that people are most likely to stick with a game when it's fun and they know that it's most fun on average when people are queued against opponents of similar skill and win around half their games.
That's why pretty much all competitive games queue people based on some elo system.
I don't see any reason to believe in any conspiracies.
i really belive riot is involved with selling accounts bc it makes fucking sense this
this video is really well put together! hope your channel grows large :)
Appreciate it thanks
Great video, this guy is a role model!
i quit ranked and now i only play unranked with friends and im actually at mental peace i dont care about win and loss anymore
great, great video! call of duty players are calling this out hard but its time for league players to do the same!
the game is rigged! its so evil!
Thanks to vanguard i was finally forced to quit because the game absolutely would not run on my pc without a bunch of tweaks and i dont feel comfortable disabling all security.
Why is your channel so small?? I never watched any of your videos, this one just got recommended to me, but this is awsome. I tried doing research myself on this toxic game, that destroys its playerbases mental, but i never imagined i would stumble over such a great video. Keep this great work up man, fantastic video; not only did you describe the key mechanisms, but you proved your points with statistics and science. I didnt even think about this omnipresence argument, but you are absolutely right! Where did you get allof this information from, i would love to know? Much love man
nearly 7 months league sober now, uninstalled after forced vanguard
Ngl, I remember being in losers queue for Aram 🤣 my homies were like “broooo how tf you lose 10 Aram games in a row???” I was super close to completing my “ARAM God” title and I just couldn’t get it. Eventually got it a month later after that tho. Have had zero incentive to play that game because all the homies who still played switched up on me after quitting 🤣
Almost 1 week sober and my life is much better
deserves more views keep it going brother
I quit for 2 years straight... and I got back
This is exactly why riot Nerf Sion. The fact that thebauffs didn't get hard stuck in diamond was a red flag to them. Sion's win rate was even trash at the time.
My main account has been stuck in gold for a long time, I have an all but don't play and I started playing ranked on it and got to Plat extremely easily. I stopped playing right cuz I realized it was a rigged game.
thats absolutelty true i reached silver 1 like 3 times every time in promos the games are unwinnable, an advice this is just a GAME don't play ranked play normal and enjoy your time.
Exactly, just play normals with friends and have fun, I don't play videogames to stress I play to have a good.
Jokes on you, I'm two years League free. It's possible to quit if you try hard enough.
Don't quit league of legends, just change type of game you play, quit ranked, happiest time i had playing moba was in dota 2 playing normal games... i don't know why i even started playing ranked games, if you really can/t quit ranked games, better learn to play dota 2, where 1 player can obliterate enemy team, also not every single hero have stun in his kit, life steal and hp regen its not jack shit, and comeback its real.. players are dumb, but they are 50 times smarter then your average league player, i don't recall ever having 0-40 bot lane, like i do in every single league game
i quit this game and is best decision i have made so far, not worth the risk to brick my pc only to play this game
I think is going to be a great video but most of the content is just discussing about something that has been proven to be false. Loser queue doesn’t even exist.
Did riot say it doesn't exist? even then I would be inclined to believe they have their own system which work similarly and they are instead denying some strawman.
they added vanguard and that was enough of a repeller for me to quit it
Were you able to quit? I see you haven't uploaded in a while.
The only thing that has made me want to quit league is Vanguard..... and it remains the only reason I haven't played since it was implemented.
Whats vanguard im kinda clueless
@@dakkonthegithzerai3867 I am by no means an expert on the topic, but basically it is Riot's anti-cheat soft wear that has a VERY high amount of control over your PC (which is what people are talking about whenever you hear them say that it runs at the "kernel level" of your pc; a very deep level).
The control it has over your pc isn't the only issue, but it is the main one.
Thank you for your service.
Quit in early 2022. Dont even have urges to go back. There are so many better games.
The system is skill based my friend you are wrong. Its just that you lose sometimes even if you do everything right. But in 100 games you will win 60-70 if you do everything right all the time. That will give you a lot more lp than what you lose and you will eventually climb to a higher elo. That repeats until you reach an elo that most players are as good as you. Then you will get stuck. A team based game cannot be 100% on your performance. People will make mistakes very often. Its up to you to not make those mistakes worse than what they already are.
The new season's changes in balance and monetization did it for me. Riot clearly does not care for the players' experience and has been focused on farming whales with worse and worse cosmetics for years.
Can proudly say I haven't touched it since february and the news that come up in my feeds keep confirming my decision as the right one.
It's almost summer time. Just go outside. It's free and actually meaningful.
I agree. This game and company do not care about the player experience at all and only make the process unnecessarily grindy and frustrating, which is not what games are supposed to be. They make bad decisions that do not care about player experience and concerns.
ive been clean for 10 years, you can quit the game like me
*proceeds to log into league*
thanks for the informative Video bro. the same story with me and I am hitting 1k games per season and I can't even reach the rank i want .
Chovy or Faker would for sure be unable to reach challenger due to "losers queue" KAPPA
I've quit LoL twice now, but coming back this time I just play ARAM. Wanna play serious, rank up, improve ? I just play a fighting game and that does it way better
i did thanks to vanguard not cause i was cheating just cause i didn't want that shit running constantly
sadly not everyone is like that and will say it has been tempting to come back sometimes
once i lose a game i stop playing that account for roughly 24 hours, this way the system see i have a high churn rate when a get a lose, win im force to go till i get that loss so they see i churn very easily for each lost. it also why i have 40 1$ accts lol
please where do u get those 1 dollar accounts and r they botted? what r the chances of one of them getting banned for being botted if they are .
Incredible video.
9 months after this video riot messaged me saying I am ready to install vanguard, with only okay as and option and no way out "alt F4" uninstall and I quit fuck riot and there dunce devs.
0:21 gg full ad lost since champ select ff15
EZ vanguard made me quit the moment the update came
Dunno about you but I quit when I want lol. Played for a year then stopped for 2 and came back only because of the new arena game mode
MB cuz i like it ? mmmm
Jokes on you I quitted years ago
lmo wth is that
"league of legends in about fun"
yes it is, just play it the right way
1 million percent., mofokers be playing aram and lose all their drafts and play ranke once in a blue moon. and they fkimn feed
why? bcs. there no game simular to LOL.,no fast game paly ( DotA2 is to slow game play) they dont want to fix all bad thing in game to make her much btr..one of this bad thiing is mmr . if u have old acc. and ur mmr. get freeez forever , there no climb for u anymore...best fix for that is to reset mmr. every 1 year or some bigger period ...
EOMM
I quit
Went back to Dota 2 since they are banning Smurfs now. Never looked back. League is a Smurf infested, shallow and unbalanced shithole.
deleting my comment just makes me want to go do it more
Under capitalism, games are not made to be fun
Yes, all of the good games are coming out of Venezuela and North Korea.
@@MrCmon113 Fym? both those places are capitalist as all hell
Vanguard made me quit lol
I stoped once they shipped vanguard . Not gonna install that
Everything in life is rigged.
I will never have any respect for people playing MOBA games. Something is missing in their existence.
I think your argument has some holes.
1. Losers' Queue is a fundamentally flawed concept. Losers' queue implies that riot can accurately measure skill and then manipulate the matchmaking to keep you chasing dopamine hits; which is way harder than simply having a matchmaking system that pairs you with a close to 50% win rate. After all; if the goal of the matchmaking system is to give you an equally skilled set of opponents, where either side could win; you would expect players to cap out in rank at a 50% win rate in aggregate. It is far more likely that the MMS sees you winning too much and decides to give you harder and harder opponents; or weights your skill higher than your teammates until you start to hit a wall. Once you hit that wall and lose a bunch, the system can recalibrate to put you with people that are weaker players. The added component of tilt / exhausition or off role-ing is a big part to the chaos of the MMS, and is likely due to the perceived "unfairness" of the teammates one gets put with.
2. On another note, it's hard to call league an addiction off the merits of playing the game giving a dopamine increase. Your body naturally produces this chemical in response to eating, or other basic life functions. League has been refined to be a very fun and engaging game, and there is nothing inherently wrong with spending free time to play a game that is challenging, yet exciting in the moment-to-moment gameplay. The issue with addiction is when it prevents you from engaging in normal life or when you pursue it self-destructively. The vast majority of people that I have met through the game do not play an excessive amount, or grind ranked habitually. For me personally, I have played the game since S2, and after skipping a season, attained my ranked goal with a 70% wr.
3. That said, the ranked ladder is designed to make you play more than necessary. I started my placements in my ending MMR, but took 36 games to get there with a 70% win rate. I started multiple tiers below my MMR in ranking, which was total bullshit because of the unnecessary separation between rank and MMR. This is definitely a bad thing for the average player, as it inflates the time required to play the game to get their desired rank; but i wouldn't call it addictive; the only reason I even played ranked again was because I approached it with a different mentality and don't worry about friends caring about my rank; I know my skill level, and so do my friends, I have nothing to prove. However; getting to play against better players is a nice end result of tryharding in ranked.
4. The idea that you have fixed match making is a bit off-base. The likely truth is just that the game is always trying to push you towards a 50% win rate, and so if you go on a win streak; the game will put you against harder lobbies until your winrate starts to go down. The only people who can escape this are those who are so beyond their current rank that the system fails to introduce significant challenge before the player attains the rank they desire (lower than their actual skill, but with sufficient rewards) or if the player is a truly top-tier player, there may be no harder lobbies to face, and so that top #1 player can reliably carry assuming their skill is high enough to never be eclipsed by another set of players.
Overall; i think league is no more addictive than any other video game or hobby; but it is easier to play a game of league than to drive to the hobby store to buy goods; playing the game is free and only costs your time and emotional energy.
I appreciate your pure mindset.
1. First point you make is that its not possible to measure what team will win, well it actually is extremely easy to measure and there have been ppl making outside programs to measure which team will win before the game started and were extremely accurate. So for Riot it is easy to replicate that with the amount of Data they have.
2. Im glad you feel that way. Me personally i think it is a bit concerning to play the same game for over a decade and i know for a fact that a lot of people have suffered from League addiction more than any other Game i know.
3. You state that it is designed to make you play longer to get to ur desired rank which is correct and the reason they do that is for delayed gratification. Ways to do that is like mentioned the mmr system or fixed matchmaking.
4. Why would a big company forgo a way to increase their profits?
It may only cost time, but time is the most precious resource we have.