I like this too, not the idea of using child soldiers, but what it represents and what it tells us about the involving nations. Also, it is very real and unfiltered
I enjoy the lore of League more than I do the actual game. It's a gold mine of great fantasy and an MMO is perfect to finally let people experience all of it
I absolutely hate League of Legends but I really like the lore and love Legends of Runterra. Coming from a former Heartstone player, LoR is great and has one of the fairest monetization models I have ever seen.
I think Riot owes a lot to Necrit & TB Skyen in terms of showing people how amazing the lore is. Tons of people had preconceived notions about the LOL lore and those two have really done a lot in turning that around.
@@schneedgod They definetly know their contribution in keeping the lorea community alive and well, and one thing they did was ad Necrit to the Viego game
Asmon if you ever decide to dive into Riot lore Necrit(the guy who made this video) is the best source to learn about all of it. He is so thorough and gets through all of it so well
I remember playing around when Wukong was released. At the time the lore was just character lore pages and a weekly like 'summoner newsletter' type thing. I could be misremembering.
I just love how invested Asmon got listening to Necrit explaining the lore. Like most people who play League, they play it to become better and climb the ranks and only the minority really cares about the lore of the game. But since this is an MMO, lore is gonna be important. And seeing Asmon who knows nothing about the game, not only just being intrigued by the lore but also imagining the countless possibilities of it being fully realized and playable and being able to play the game in the future. I think this is what I appreciate more about his reaction than just like some random dudes on the internet who reacts to League cinematics or whatever.
The worldbuilding has pretty much be done in character lore in the LoL in game client, events, cinematics etc. etc. Bit by bit they built it up over years and years of time. I'm really hoping their MMO gets made well. Because the potential is massive.
They have enough cash flow to make it good... That and they have lore Lets just hope it's not a cookie cutter mmo and focuses on low-mid end requirements.
@@MonSteh Amazon Game Studios also had enough cash flow to "make it good" and they delivered a super average MMO overall. Riot has more lore going for it but there's still a ton of potential to screw it up.
Something people are not mentioning often enough: Riot is also constantly evolving their lore through their other games. New league characters might come from a previously unknown region or traveled somewhere and gained their powers there. Looking for a new event? Let's write in a war between two nations and have players pick sides. Even skins can bring in some new piece of lore. It's a massive advantage having these things interconnected.
@@beo3828 Spirit Blossom skins are also canon. It's just that they represent totally different characters than the Champions they're for. As an example, Spirit Blossom Thresh is a different character and has a different name in-lore, but he still exists.
imagine they just make a dimensional portal event and take you to the star guardian universe or dark star universe where you could complete some event stories and get some cool armor and items you wouldn't be able to get otherwise because it wouldn't fit the main world of Runeterra. Not to mention the Celestials and Targon Prime which are interstellar and connected to multiple planets, it's literally infinite potential (as Syndra would say xd)
@@beo3828 Actually no. Spirit Blosson Yasuo and Yone have a very similar backstory to the originals, but they actually are different two brothers who are, as you said, dead and exist as spirits in Ionia. Though I lied a bit when I said that all Spirit Blossom skins represent different characters. Spirit Blossom Kindred is actually the exact same being as the original, it's just they take different forms in different regions based on people's beliefs, and that's how Ionians see them.
Unlike most MMOs that get announced, I'm really excited for this one. Riot is basically what Blizzard used to be. IK for sure that this MMO is gonna be great, especially since it's using LOL lore.
yeeeeeeeeeeeah and look what blizzard turned into.....they ruined league over the years and turned it more into a gambling simulator to generate money then a competitive game and valorant isnt close to what they said they wanted to do with it initially in terms of how realistic and accurate the gunplay and abilities are. Lets be real. They will copy WoW format but do it better because its 20 years later but thats relative when its 20 years later and your a billion dollar bussiness. Itll be great for a few years then they wiill give in and turn to making money over quality and we will all be on to the next thing rinse dopamine receptors and wallets and repeat
Hell no mann, Ol' Blizzard was something else. We had Blizzard GMs everywhere f*cking with us having fun with us just pretty much enjoying it all and Blizzard was just making game for making game, anyone could get offended by sexual jokes, no one gave a fuck. Hell, Illidan had a HAREM, still no one gave a fuck, now, we can't even /spit on someone or /pathetic someone. Because trans or gay or women or child get offended.
Making new games that happen to be successful =/= the old Blizzard. Blizzard pioneered and successfully topped several genres. Riot made a few successful games and some above average ones.
Riot's been building League lore for a loong time now. League has been out for 13 years now and while the lore started really simple they've been working at it for a long time now building and expanding the world. They've written many stories, they've been killing it with the cinematics and in November last year we finally got an actual series where they showed a wider audience what their team is capable of. Riot's got some really talented writers, the world is already incredibly interesting and it seems like with this MMO they're going to push it even further.
Never played LoL and not a fan of it, but god damn happened to watch Arcane on Netflix few months ago and I can imagine the world/lore Riot can build just from that show. I am super stoked for this MMO.
to be honest they only really started to put it together like during season 7 or 8. because the lore before it was just weak. Just random people summoned to fight on the rift for countries to take land.
@@dango2917 yeah pretty much, at first it was just this champ is from this region, and a bit of lore on how they got their powers or something. Which also makes sense since back then Riot was focused on building a good game and a successful E-Sports scene, when they cemented themselves as the giants they are they were able to focus more on this aspects that dont directly impact the game or the esports scene. What i have to commend Riot for is that they have expanded the lore of those old champions (or at least most of them), which many devs would probably ignore and just do expanded lore for newly released characters.
@@dango2917 Wouldn't be surprised if in s7-s8 the idea and a rough plan for Riot MMO was being laid out. The amount of time it takes for the idea of a new game to reach actual development could be years.
I remember when the story of league was just some random character champions tossed togethor forced to do battle by some omnipotent "summoner" represented by you the player controlling them to do battle. To go from that to seeing the compexity of and amazing quality of their story to the point that even some of their skin lines are better written than any lore wow has put out in the last 10 years. Riots art team is now on another level.
@@LunaticThinker It was definitely a bad lore piece that held their story lore back. DOTA failed to shutter it's game-focused lore roots and now we have no true canon lore because everything is canon in a massive multiverse, because the Ancients restart time whenever they are on the brink of destruction.
It would be interesting if they released each zone following a story, but not all at once. Make it extremely detailed zones/quests and bring the story to a certain point. After that, a major event that present the new area after it's completed with quality quests/storytelling and detailed zones. They have a good product in their hand....it just that companies usually bite more than they can chew....focus on a smaller map but with quality, then after that is done, release the new area. I would not mind to pay monthly to play a game with that kind of intent behind it....but that's not how it's probably going to go down
Riot games is known to excel at what they do lately. Having only 1 region on release will be more than terrible. Why would I play Noxian if I gotta do quests in demacia and vice-versa? Instead of focusing on a small map with quality just take the time to make a huge map with the same quality, which is what they're doing
@@hM-gx3hq when i meant ''smaller'' i meant the entire region from a ''faction/country''. All i am saying is not to try to release the entire or almost the entire map at once or in a short period of time. Also, riot games is known for many things, none of them is for making quality games...
@@aldrich2825 Wdym not quality games, League? Huge success. TFT? Don't see any other autobattlers rivaling that one. Valorant? Huge competition to CS. Even Runeterra is good but not wildly successful even tho it def is a good game. So i have no clue how u come to that blatantly wrong conclusion mate
So with this you have the basic ins and outs about the general world lore. Now consider theres 140+ characters each with their owns stories inside of that world and a crazy amount of sidecharacters also with fleshed out stories. This has the potential to be REALLY awesome.
@@Nightstalker314 i believe, they did said that they will not be focus around the champions in league because of that same thing (? They will be here and there but will likely not have the great impact that you would expect (no all of them, but with plenty) like, in Ionia they could mention Shen or Zed, but what they do wouldn't be the focus, but rather the thing that caused them to do it? Idk if I explained right
@@Shiftry87 Another problem with using LoL Champions as characters in MMO is that Riot will be very limited in what they can do with them. It's the same problem that prevents them from properly developing lore storylines. Champions are built around a particular status quo and changing it in any significant amount will also require changes in LoL. Killing one is outright impossible. For now at least. We've seen devs being at least somewhat willing to go that way with Viego, but still, there are limits.
@@antongrigoryev6381 imo, you can actually kill them, some champions is already dead in lore, or changed, compared to in-game, some are from difference age/era/time, so you can think as summoner's rift can summons champions from the past to present, etc. so even if a champion die or changed, it still won't affact the summoner's rift much. EDIT: and they can also just update some voice lines into the game like Jinx/Vi or update the whole thing like Gangplank, etc.
@@royalecrafts6252 short of implementing VR into MMOs, which will not happen in the next 5 to 10 years because of the cost barrier to fill the servers (not to mention how hard it would be to code entire worlds like that without instancing areas quite heavily), there really isn't much that hasn't been tried, and if a gameplay concept doesn't do phenomanly well it's viewed as a lost cause by publishing companies. Sadly, while I enjoy the lore of league a lot, if ten cent is involved in the decision making for riot's mmo I think "gameplay is king" will boil down to anything that keeps the player grinding away while selling overpriced skins or accessories. At least in terms of league of legends they stopped innovating years ago and are just riding the cash cow. I'd be very surprised to see them attempt true originality in the MMO, especially given how established the genre is. The only hope I have is that they ironically make a monthly-sub based game like WoW and actually focus on gameplay development and PvP events that will engage people to form good communities, but again there's no guarantee they would allocate revenue to their development teams to push risky and original ideas, and in terms of community league is extremely toxic and I have no faith that won't bleed over into the MMO and make large-scale events miserable.
@@BB-zq6hy on point, it will be just a generic mmo again, even ashes of creation will be generic again, you see the combat? Is just spam left click all fetched
@@andylarkin5779 well, they still suck, no combo system, no stance system, let alone a combo and stance tree that you can unlock and combine in whatever way you see fit, let alone block/parry/deflect system, is just click click click fetched fetched fetched easy shit
19:49 Kled could have his own entire expansion where you enlist into his "army" and reconquer "his" "rightful" territory. Which is like, the entirety of Runeterra. Until someone comes around and stop you.
I love how he slowly realises how powerful this Lore is, i personally been years around Riot's Work, since the Season 2! I'm a writer, a little amateur [and with hope lol], truly worldbuilding is kinda what i love to do most. And Riot simply NAILED IT, they took random pieces, persons, desings, that looked completly oppossite and made this World, vast, diverse, and with so much content! I truly respect the writers of Riot Games, the Lore Team is incredible and i can probably say that it's one of the best out there when it comes to Lore of Games.
One thing about riot world building is that they have retconned and rewritten everything so many times that it finally works. Noxus and black lotus has been changed over 5 times, demacia has been changed a lot, with each champion coming out the previous ones get updated. Thats how we get this massive world.
@@mohammadnaghizade3544 Exactly! That's how you do Worldbuilding, taking pieces, rewritting, and connecting, if it doesnt work, try again, until it does! They truly did an outstanding job tho, considering how vast and diverses the "pieces" were at the beggining. The fact that almost* everything is connected by this point it's outstanding and you can clearly tell that it's a work of years and years.
What I love about this vid and Asmon's reaction to it is that so many pictures have people in them. Maybe half of those people are already characters in League of Legends (I was surprised Asmon didn't say anything until Ahri showed up) and they have their established lore in the world already. The other half are just random characters made up either by Riot or by people using the lore described by Riot. They all look distinct and unique and give so much added flavor to the world.
Kinda in the same camp. I don't play too many mmo's. But after watching arcane, I binged on League lore, and it's actually quite expansive and compelling. And I'm actually looking forward to this mmo
no one knows how deep the Runeterra lore is because the games themselves (except for The Ruined King game) do not explain the lore at any point, Riot didn't start as an RPG Devteam, so those who know the Lore from playing League, know it because they went and read it on their own, but as someone that has played League since 2014, i can tell you, the Lore has no impact in LoL, or Legends of Runeterra, or TFT, or Valorant. Given that MMORPGs take 6+ years to develop, Riot probably knew they wanted to make an MMORPG before they were even close to starting the development of the MMO, which is why they did make the effort of creating an interesting world and put so much effort in the worldbuilding aspects of Runeterra.
Its not the lore is shit. Any lore enthusiast will tell you that LoLs lore is FULL of pointless retcons every 1-3 years and marketing affecting lore 2nd hand multiple times especially recently. People who praise the lore either dont care about this or are ignorant to these issues.
I got into the League universe by playing Legends of Runeterra, which is what most of the art used in this video is from. It’s such a good game and has almost nonexistent micro transactions for a trading card game.
As someone who knows nothing about League/Runeterra lore except for all of what was talked about in this video, and i didnt even understand/retain half of it, i am so absurdly intruiged by all of it. So thorough and vast, obviously built over a span of years, this has got to be one of the craziest fantasy worlds ive ever seen or heard of, and im loving every second. Its an information overload of course, and thats the last thing i need during all of this stressful school time, but hey least this is actually super fucking interesting
The best thing is you really can start reading almost any story and understand what is going on, creating and imagining the world around the story and yet everything is connected
League has one of the richest lores in game history, in fact most league players don't know or care about the lore, but even though most players don't care, they never stopped developing the world and it's history, I remember I had to read the characters profiles and web the lore together to make out the overall lore almost a decade ago, it's really, really amazing how they made something that grand even though it's a completely optional and "unimportant" part of the game.
@@Bilbobaggins82242 Like most league players or people that never played league, you have no clue about the game lore, 10 year ago, even though you had to understand the lore by the champions profile, it had more depth than most MMO at the time, they expanded on the lore for 10 year since, you are clearly oblivious to it since it's not throw at your face like other games, your remark just show your ignorance.
@@Bilbobaggins82242 i personally wouldnt go as far as saying it has THE richest lore but it is definetly up there. What you are saying is just flat out proveably incorrect. Even if you dont like the lore wich you obviously are entiteled to, there is SO MUCH of it and it is all done with a very high level of care and effort. Over 160 playable champions with almost all of them having a pretty hefty and interesting character backstory, their own character theme song and usually 2-3 short storys to their name, hundreds more of already pretty well developed and cool side characters from LoR and the supplemental material. There is i think 5 short comic series and dozens of longer novellas, there is a lore/worldbuilding book, over 100 very high quality cinematics and promo vids of wich about 40% are actually canon lore material. The thousands of ingame Champion interactions and voicelines that give more details about relationships and history. About 15 distinct regions/nations all with very complex and diverse cultures, historys, visual styles and inhabitants and also a long and interesting storyline in concurrent canon. Fucking ARCANE! An entire Soundtrack of something like 200 ambient tracks that have accumulated over the years and exist for no other reason as to give vibes to the regions or some more to some characters. Hundreds of beautifull pictures and pieces of Artwork depicting the landscapes, creatures, peoples and history of the world ranging from concept art to full renderings. The list goes on and on. Tl;Dr: as i said above, just because you dont like it, the objective ammount of care, effort and passion that has been put into this over the last decade by the artists and writers can not be denied on any logical or reasonable basis.
As someone who has kept up with the all of the lore until about a year or 2 ago Its so cool seeing someone else see the world for the first time, the art/lore team has been absolutely killing it for the last 8+ years and seeing their work finally being put into games that can take full advantage of it is so cool. I just hope that riot dosnt drop the ball when it comes to the gameplay, I seriously doubt they will but you never know I guess.
If you have played league you know that riots strong suite is the gameplay. League is a trash game, but the gameplay is great, its so smooth and clean and it feels great to play any of the champions, that said, at least the combat and movement will be top notch.
@@mech0p I dont see them going down that route. They don't really have any reason anyways. Leauge has shown that they have an amazing cosmetics team bringing in tons of money. So people will buy cosmetics for the mmo for sure.
I just keep rewatching this because I love seeing Riots lore finally be appreciated by a big streamer, even better that is Asmongold. Makes the fanboy in me really happy
Been following league's lore for a good 8 years now, watching Necrit was my main go to for anything lore related and seeing so many people not actually know about LoLs lore is just surprising to me since it's world is so great
@@TarisRedwing they didn't delete it they just made it harder to access (not literally) since not many people go to the league website and actually check it out which is the only way to read up on it outside of champion bios. Unless you were referring to the old league lore before it was completely revamped then yea it was deleted lol.
@@TarisRedwing unless you talking about old league lore reboot from 10+ years ago, idk what your talking about, everything is still on league of legends universe.
@@rowmein nah bro, the way Riot dealt with LoL lore was really bad until recently, they removed the diary inside the launcher, they stopped doing the champions judgments which were great to know more about each character backgroud, they retconned dozens of champions backgrounds because they had no idea what to do with the lore and how to connect everything. I can't tell exactly when they started to actually work on their worldbuilding but it's not more than 5 years. But to be fair, once they knew which direction they wanted to go they started doing a good job at it most of the time
@@hinnyu7748 I do read the lore but whenever I'm not in the mood or I'm at work and need something to pass the time i know necrit has me covered, and I know everything he says isn't always 100% correct or certain he makes mistakes as well which is why i don't just believe all of his theories you always have to take them with a pinch of salt. But the man has been following League's lore longer than a large majority of everyone else so of course whatever he says has credibility to it.
It would be sick if you could choose whatever race, region and class you want to start at and each combination has a different "intro" story before they all eventually start connecting to each other until they all culminate into whatever the main story of the game is and every expansion following it. I feel the zones definitely have more than enough possibilities to make it possible.
Id love if you could actually side with different factions you know? Like being part of the mage seekers in demacia or be part of the rebellion. Same goes for Piltover and Zaun.
Been following Necrit months after he started and I love his content, it never dissapoints. I'm super excited to watch this cus I love your takes on things since you always keep it real Asmongold. Also did you know that Riot made Necrit an actual character in their "Ruined King" game and the voice actor tried to replicate how he talks!? Was such a cool nod to all the work he's done about league.
@@noam242 I believe he was the Kings "Royal Advisor" in the game (Been to long since I played it). Though he has spoken first hand to many of the dev/writing team along with I believe CEO's on game matters.
@@Rokuns i meant un realated to the game. Idk what he is called in the game since i havent played or watched a gameplay of it. I know he had a contact in riot and interviewed some of them a few times but not that he is in constant talking with them and consulting them, thats cool.
I am so pumped for riots mmo. Ive been an avid fan of their world building for years, and the thought of a decent mmo from all that... absolutely makes me happy for the future. I only hope they dont ruin it.
@William Hall Ive been around since they had the annual newspapers thats literally began the lore. Also the same shit happened with world of warcraft. Lots of the warcraft lore was boring as fuck to begin with until people started getting into it.
@William Hall It was basic for 60% of its life - but they are allowed to go back and touch up what the "basic" and "terrible" lore. btw not a real argument LMAO
@@Damnagora Yeah going back and changing it is called a retcon, and it's generally considered a sign of bad or weak storytelling. "Not a real argument." why? What exactly do you mean? How is it disqualified as an argument?
the riot mmo is gonna be the worst thing ever. imagine everything thats been wrong with mmos for the past 20 years and turn it up 10 fold. its not gonna be hardcore, its gonna be streamlined as all hell, accessible to everyone, microtransactions galore, p2w...just a complete disaster. everything is gonna primarily revolve around them making money (and not just making money but making the most money humanly possible at the expense of the consumer). the lol mmo is gonna be the personification of what corporate greed looks like (i hope im wrong, but i highly doubt that i am)
Man, you just GOTTA watch Arcane, since you value morally complex characters so much, this is for me one of the strongest points of this show! Furthermore, the visual and sound design is just out of this world amazing, and concepts like shizophrenia are very well implemented into their visual design in a very creative way I've never seen before.
I love this lore and it has a lot of possibilities to go further but I hope unlike Blizzard they give us time with newly introduced or developed characters before they make them integral or expect us to care, Blizzard used up all the existing lore and then plowed on with a mixture of pure retcon and that weird inbetween where you add stuff and there by change context of existing lore but not actually changing events. I prefer the latter but I have to care about the developments and ramifications and not feel like theyre irrelevant the moment the next expansion drops
The lore Riot has created is very intriguing, but so far it's largely been a bunch of storylines that are cool ideas more than anything else. They can tell individual stories with it, but what I'm really interested in seeing is if they can take their eclectic lore and bring it all together in an MMO. They definitely have a leg up with so many people who already have some knowledge of it and are anxious to explore the world further, so hopefully they can pull it off, but I think too many people are assuming that their starting point is simply going to work because it sounds interesting. Even if they don't do it well it may work for some time, but if it's not cohesive then it will start to show cracks over time. But above all else, the fact that LoL has forced them to create such a diversity of storylines could be a great strength for them. They're basically obligated to take the risks to create a very unique world rather than trying to find ways for it to conform into something simpler.
@@Impervious11 I think they will focus on their huge storyline character and ignore the minimize ones like Asol is so improtant for lore but Jhin is not that important and they will create mostly dungeons and raids on these characters and video creater already explained every region has own main stroyline and connected storyline and these are make me so excited cause I beleive this game will be huge and so feed up about content and Riot Games always makes their game f2p and wittout p2w I hope it'll come fast.
For story telling, Riot will have an easier time with characters than WoW. Warcraft only had a handful of characters people really knew and cared about. League has hundreds. And as League is constantly shitting out new champions, there will be room for their MMO to occasionally kill off a few for story. I think Arcane really showed us that Riot can truly visualize the world building of League. It also showed us they can write a fucking story. And cutscenes will be fire in the MMO, as their in-house animators made Arcane.
PLUS they aren't afraid of creating important characters that aren't in the game. E.g. Silco from Arcane was crucial in Arcane, but only made it to TFT and is never coming to League. There are so many super strong characters and beings in the world that haven't been touched on in the game, which is honestly super cool.
@@robertcharrasse4002 Brother, Fortiche was made of 5 people. Riot themselves hired 300 people for Fortiche to do the arcane series. Fortiche is literally Riot Games. They even bought Like majority of stakes in the company now.
It made me so happy to see how interested Asmon is in everything here and how intently he listens and wants to understand and take it all in. I wish there were more people like this in the world who want to listen like this. It was genuinely so soothing to my small spikes of anxiety when I perceived very lore-heavy parts of Necrit’s video being explained and I thought it could be an overload for anyone new to the lore, but then Asmon takes a moment to repeat back what he heard, process it, then repeatedly give it praise! Thank you. Also, if you love all these morally grey characters and stories and powerfully raw and well fleshed out narratives, you will fucking love Arcane! Please watch it and tell us what you think! I haven’t stopped having thoughts on it since it came out.
For sometime Riot has essentially been Blizzard's child, coming out of WC3 DotA with LoL and keeping the similar style of art and games throughout, then going further. They show that passion that Blizzard lost, making groundbreaking amazing cinematics, world building and even developing other games which are highly successful. They're kinda going the same route but a different one like Blizzard, and so far they've innovated game genres that exist just as Blizzard did as well, only that I feel I'm quite confident they have what it takes to really create something new and great that the players want, or have the same vision, rather than Blizzard that seems to lost their touch.
It's the leadership in my opinion. Riot has a f***ing superbrain ontop of it that has been proven time and time again. Blizzard went foul when Activision came in. They managed to make everyone with passion leave. Nowadays there are at most 5 people of original Blizzard left in the whole company. I have seen a Video about that. Let's hope that Riot's superbrain will keep leading the Company for a long time to come. It might only need for one right person to fall out for it all to crumble.
While I would agree a couple of years ago current Riot feels very fabricated when the people behind stuff talk. They've started to show the cracks that could lead to them becoming just like Blizzard or any other money hungry company that deems themselves better than their playerbase. There is enough lore to make something really interesting, but Riot is capable of ruining it.
@@JustSomeoneRandom1324 ye... mfs doesn’t care about Wildrift.... they don’t support competitive scene on mobile based player rich country like Philippines... thus the bootleg games like Mobile Legends thrives there
@@JustSomeoneRandom1324 it does seem as riot grows they get more like ea, activision etc. i hope they dont go the same way as blizzard. for now at least they seem pretty good
Being deep into the lore of League since long now, when I watched Necrit's video I thought it was well made and that he brought good points, but watching you react to it makes me realize how well put together his video is, and it really highlights how developed the lore of League is. As the years goes by I love it's lore more and more over the actual gameplay. The thing I think Riot's writers do best is morally grey zones. There is A LOT of characters that look good or evil at first glance, but when you dig into their lore you realize that it's way more complex than that (Morgana vs Kayle for example, Viktor (the canon one) too). I absolutely can't wait to dive deeper into this world with the MMO!
@@redbruhcolli League has the perfect lore for an MMO. There is better fantasy lore but can it compete with league and its already 160 unique champions. That's a lot of characters to explore
The main villain of arcane was a completely new character i believe and he was absolutely amazing. His vibe and voice were so chilling. I'm really hyped for this even though I have never played an mmo before
I'm feeling the same sort of anticipation for this game as I did for WoW at about the same stage in it's development. Blizzard's rep in the industry was phenomenally high at the time, the tabloids had already run stories about how the nation's children were getting hooked on 'Evercrack' and Warcraft 3 was getting the sort of mainstream attention PC games hardly ever received back then because it was considered so niche compared to the consoles - remember that? Asmon knows what's up - studio with a big rep, great lore, beautiful and very distinct stylised art, an already enormous fanbase. This is the WoW killer of infamy.
It cant be like that bcs gameplay is like diablo so they can kill only that stupid games when they make game like wow 3rd person wasd walking jumping and everything then we can say its wow killer
This is not "the WoW killer". That title is useless because WoW has fallen so far and already been dethroned. Yeah its still going okay but the 70 yr old man that walks the park every day is doing okay also, yet he is still so far pasted his prime any younger person could take him out. Taking out an old man means nothing, old age won the fight for you. WoW has "killed" itself.
I agree that shurima can be an end game zone for the continent that has been shown since they can also branch it so that we can go through the void by going to an entrance in icathia
I hope not. WOW showed us how bad it is to have zones to level in and one endgame zone. Riot needs to have everything tie into the end game. I don't want any of the zones to become obsolete and barren because their endzone is somewhere else. Have us travel to Noxus to buy certain metals to forge with the wood from Demacia to make a weapon. Some people might find it tedious but Riot's big advantage is how fleshed out their world is and the atmosphere it provides. If they make keeping it their top priority the game will do great
@@muea.8392 it can go its own route with lookback on ff for inspiration. Be it a story, an event, for a scenery or for a convinience - you revisit older zones from time to time. And rarely you feel like you forced too. Albeit cuz of wow i almost hate an idea of any kind zones scaling or whatever. I WANT to get my character stronger so that in the older zones nothing can really hurt me except for some high level elites/event enemies/world bosses.
@@gerbo8018 Its going to be a casual friendly game so i doubt there is going to be huge xp grinds and level zones. If i had to guess they would release the whole map with starting story, and then release expansions based on story and not zones. Unlike to this video i think the story would start way earlier than what its shown here as there is so much that havent been mentioned in this video.
@@gerbo8018 8+? What mmos have you been playing? The ones that i played are 100hours+ as is the case in every modern MMO. 8hours would be fine if it was story driven.
What's better is that they can make cool titles for the events. Imagine the event, "The Climb to Targon" or "The Shuriman Void War". Titles are very underrated but is very important. How many times you clicked on a video because of the cool title or reading a news because the headline attracted you. With good titles, you can get players attention to join the event and the more unique the title is, the more people can remember it, becoming free advertisement.
"they don't have a balance team" i don't think people realize how hard it is to truly balance characters/weapons in games. there's pro play which deserves attention, but there's also the higher elo players, and then there's the casual bottom tier players where majority of games player base always are. changes in one elo doesn't reflect the same targets in another.
Wasnt there a champion who was in a spotlight before its release and people knew it was going to be broken, but riot just did anyway. And then Riot realized its actually broken, so they remove the champs features and nerfed it.
i've read a couple of his books yes. No need to get salty about it though, it's clear the LoL lore is not as 'lazy' as you make it seem and i think it's great that the lovecraftian vibes are in there somewhere.
@Hiddel Subbeldees moreover, sure we have Lovecraft with his books. Yes there are some great stories in there, but of it is scribble, dense and hard to read. Yes I have a few collection books from him. But you know what Lovecraft is a synonym to, or even literally the same thing? A genre. It's a genre. Do you get where I'm getting at?
how the hell could you interpret it that way ?! they're going dark in the media, so they can focus on development without outside pressures. so the opposite of what you wrote, lol. Do you hear news the same way?
It would be incredible if during a Mordekaiser boss raid, he uses his league ultimate and puts someone in his realm for X amount of time for an epic 1 v 1
I watched arcane back in November, fell in love with it and decided to spend months reading up on lore and watch necrits videos. Im excited for Riots mmo. Even ended up getting a simple zaun crest tattooed onto my neck and have Jinx's graffiti Monkey on my arm and as Wow veteran since OG BC launch. Im genuinely hoping that we get like a teaser video of some sort for it later this year. Zaun will be the place i hang out the most if its available at launch lol.
Regarding the new characters isue @36:09, the big advantage of the Riot MMO is that they can release the "new characters" on its other games first, then adopt to the MMO later. This is an advantage only Riot has. For WOW, I think it's a hit and miss but since Riot can test it first whether people will like the new character art and lore by releasing it on other games, they can make sure each character is a banger. You see, people don't really care TOO MUCH about the lore on other games like I played Yorick for 5 years in League of Legends and never know his lore or ever looked at it. Using myself as a standard, I will always try the new champions regardless if their lore is bad. My point is, even if the lore is bad, the "new character" still has a purpose. Then, if the lore is good, that's just a bonus, then they can apply it to the MMO which is lore-focused than gameplay-focused. Games like Runeterra and League of Legends, even if the lore is bad, but good gameplay for the new characters, people will play it. But for MMO, where a lot would probably be more interested in the lore, bad lore relevance may also mean bad player experience.
I have really not been excited by new releases in mmos at all, I played wow then recently ff but none of the new releases or anything, but this gives me serious early wow vibes, pure worldbuilding and telling small stories within a vast world, and I wanna go adventure in it
Personally, I think the MMO should take place before most of the current lore of league. I think it’d be very cool and also allows them creative freedom to narratively create new characters that can be transitioned to league.
This Lore has been going since i think 2008. The war between Noxus and Ionia was player based in league of legends. They had pros play a game of League of Legends to determine the outcome of that specific Lore. I remember having a watch party with my friends in college during that time. Crazy to believe how it all developed but I'm happy it did
I feel Riot does 2 things the absolute best when it comes to any games they create. The lore, of course, and the music to accompany it. There was damn good music in Arcane to set the mood, each region gives you the idea of it by composition, even the characters from League itself have their own unique music that brings out their character so much.
I'd say visuals and dev communication. League devs frequently answer stuff on reddit and twitter and ghostcrawler is also doing it almost daily. Their cinamtics in the past few years were also sooo good visually.
Loved the jumping Puzzles in gw2. Mount targon seems to benthe perfect place for a huge "Fall Guy" like jumping puzzle instead of some generic dungeon. Also something like delve from poe fits these games really well. Dont make gameplay generic and turn this world into wow with a new riot cloak. The beauty of mmorpgs is that you can be really creative with different activities.
I'm writing a progression fantasy In one of the dungeons the main group encounters, they have to kill a boss that is comprised of lightning with giant iron rods, grounding it and effectively nullifying it's existence No damage done to the thing by the characters There are jump puzzles and obstacles between the ballistias set up to shoot the rods Wish there was more of that "The Midnight Wars" Coming whenever I finish it
Targon could make a great endless roguelite dungeon with platform-like sections. Lore-wise it's probably for the best, we wouldn't want the possibility of players becoming Aspects
For others that are interested in the lore and want to look into more, some of the LoL champs with the best lore are Jhin, Pyke, Mordekaiser, Sylas, Camille, Diana/Leona, Kindred, Pantheon, and Fiddlesticks
he's absolutely right that villains need to win sometimes, so the heroes can come back stronger. at the last episode of ATLA book 2 i really thought Aang was gonna whoop everybody but azula zapped him in the back during the transformation.
one small reason why MMO takes 6+ years to make is that there are no good MMO engine out on the market and the few that exist (blizzards wow engine) is locked for anyone but blizzard themself. If I wanted to make a FPS game (anything from a COD/Battlefield clone in the same scale) to a 32vs32 Multiplayer FPS game I got hundreds of engine to choice from (unity, unreal 3, 4 and now 5) far cry engine (was a pain to get thought), Source 1 and Source 2. same whit RTS game there is a good chunk of options and I could just make it the netcode for a 32vs32 game is there already in the box just need content and all that. if I wanted to make a MMO I needed to first get a engine then get the network for that kind of scale a MMO needs I need to make that as for a long time there was littarly nothing on the market. and Unreal 3 and 4 is starting to collapse under the age of the engine limitation. there was a dedicated MMO engine out there for a time (hero engine sadly only SWTOR used it and 1 other game used it... elder scrools used it for a short time but stoped). so a lot of that time is just spending getting a basic engine to work for the task. you know that basic 1 week unity tutorial videos you seen that ends whit a game demo that's is a 1 vs 1 FPS game on a super basic N64 level style grey arena whit basic weapons maybe power upp movements and a jump function. that is what most MMO looks like after several years of hard work. becaues they needed to make everything more or less from scratch. meanwhile if I wanted to make a Battlefield clone that would be 1-2 weeks at most in unity, unreal or source, amusing the person can code at any level.
6:45 They got Valorant from Valoran Not the other way around. LoL champions mentioned Valoran 10 years ago already. The shopkeeper in Howling Abyss too
As someone whos played wow and league i can say League really has more developed characters that i have grown to love. Pretty much all of them. On top of also having nice world building. League mmo really could/would be greater than wow.
For years even when riot only had lol I always found the lore so interesting and always wondered why they put so much effort in it and wondered if they would ever do anything with it. Now after arcane and this mmo I finally understand and I’m so happy with the direction riot games is going in
i love wow and i always will but the one thing about the game that turns me and my friends off from playing it is the subscription , i hate subscriptions in any game just ruins it for me
Something that is very relevant to me is that if in wow season of discovery they are implementing that mechanic of fusing powers into armor, maybe someone within riot is implementing that mechanic for league of legends mmo, that always happens before a game comes out. the sale, and the competition finds out about this mechanism and everyone wants to have it.
The unapologetic inclusion of strife, sacrifice, and atrocity, makes this story better than anything MMO gaming has seen in the last two decades. Heroes need a dark world to save, and villains need a world without training wheels on it.
Everything sounds amazing, and yeah, very much like WoW, with the years and years of lore-building through previous games and such. But, I disagree with the idea that the mountain description, where it was simply stated he thinks it will be a great place to get armor. The description of that place, and the lore behind it, remind me tremendously of Everquest, with the Planes of Power. I think that after some expansions, and players ascending through levels and abilities, it would naturally progress to a point where the characters would want to 'Ascend'. So, perhaps an expansion that acts as kind of a trial, where the players would have to journey and fight through different challenges, to reach the peak, and be awarded more deific-level power, and obtain a choice of aspects. Maybe these aspects could be tied to the choice of challenges? And, the character would have those aspects as options to swap around when needed, but would have to complete the trials. One might be tied to a solo challenge, another to a group, one for raid level, perhaps one for a trial of traps and environmental stuff, etc etc. Different paths to tread to arrive at the peak, so different Aspects to be claimed.
Here I am watching this video for the 4th time... I simply love to see asmon engaging to league's lore and getting excited about almost everything Necrit is saying
Some side information about Poros that some people might not know: -Poros are made, quite literally, out of love. They are equal parts innocence, valor and truth. -They do not have sexual organs nor do they partake in reproductive activities. Instead, they eat and eat and eat until they grow large enough. Then they explode into dozens of tiny poros and that's how they reproduce. -Poros are so cute that when in the presence of humans, a human will noticeably become less intelligent. It's completely out of their control and almost like a magic spell. -A group of poros is called a Fluft -Very little is known about Poro society and Poro politics, which is a mind fuck by itself because they're literally just animals, but the Poros do have a king called the Poro King. -Poros have mood-horns. Their horns go up when excited and droop when they're sad.
I’m very reserved on getting excited about a new game but to hear this amount of lore gets me hopeful for this games success and I hope to experience the universe Riot has created.
thetwo things i left with are that 1) i really wish ppl knew how to dress and 2) no they should not enable people ERping in a PG game. is it REALLY that hard to be a nerd (me) and be normal socially as well as look good (emphasis on at least trying a little bit) at the same time????
If you really like this background lore, you should do a stream of watching some of the lore videos. Not necessarily the yearly cinematic, but some of the lore ones really flesh out the areas. Watch the Noxian one, (Noxus After Victory).
I'm just hoping their MMO will have an expansive skill tree with tons of options like old school WoW, (Like, minimum of 50-70 skill points) instead of every other MMO right now that's relegated to like 6-7 talent points with zero build flexibility.
@@lookatyourself1927 She will probably be used for musical events if she is added to the game wich would actually make sense unlike in the actual lore where she just exists
I never cared for LoL since I'm not a MOBA fan, so it's such a pleasant surprise to see how much worldbuilding and lore is actually behind it. Worldbuilding is such an integral part to immersion. In the end, fantasy is "science fiction", but the science refers to internal logic of events. So many games throw in basic "fiction" without any human element or internal story, just orcs/elves/dwarves and hope it's enough. But it never is, it always feel hollow.
I stopped playing league years ago, but I heavily play Legends of Runeterra. It’s great to see all the art from the cards used here, and it’s how I learned about so much of the lore of Runeterra. I was naming every card from the art he used haha.
I really love that all this does remind you of WoW, but on a smaller, less cluttered scale. Warcraft started out like this, with a well thought out foundation of lore, but after decades it was kind of all over the place with dozens of storylines that were built up and then abandoned for something else, making whole game mechanics obsolete etc. I really hope they are going to take their time with this.
"You need to have an Empire Strikes Back" . You should have been playing Asheron's Call back in 99/00 during the Shadow Wars. Giant spires appeared in the sky after months of lore buildup to what was coming. Entire cities wiped off the map. People's mule characters in town killed and rezzed in the ruins with all the loot dropped. Huge live events with NPCs coming to life being controlled by devs in real time live on the servers events. Each server having different results possible.
i love the lore in league and I hope that i can explore it in their mmo, idc if the game is p2p, Ill buy it just cus i wanna explore the world. At the same time, i wish the devs behind this success and less hardships making this happen cus i know its gnna be rough and the pressure from the community is high.
I feel like if there's anything that could actually be the WoW killer it could be Riot's MMO. The story is just so absolutely bonkers and well built that I feel the story could exceed what Blizzard has built with WoW extremely quickly. I really hope they end up making the MMO because I bet it'd be fantastic to play.
eh, WoW's universe is definetly better than riots with league, I wouldn't say leagues is "well built" at all... just small microstories and is way too scattered. Every MMO since WoW has been called the WoW killer and never has yk
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 i've read most LoL stories avaliable but havent gone all the way down the iceberg, and they genuinely have nothing on WoW lore, elderscrolls lore, Warframe lore, etc.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 League has bad lore even for a MOBA tbh, just a bunch of random (albiet good) stories but such a weak central core. Elder Scrolls and Warframe are MMOs in the genre and Warframe doesnt have older lore than league... just saying genre aside lorewise league is pretty weak
I knew they will make something interesting but this over exceeds my expectations by far, I think this could be the real successor for wow, they have a good healthy mass on moba and looks they where hard working in silence to have a big hit on mmorpg. They are creating a similar enviroment like Blizzard on the 90's.
Considering we can expect to interact plenty with many of League's characters, I could see Kindred playing some role with the player character. At least when it comes to death and such. Though it'd be a rather odd agreement at the same time since the two don't exactly like anything that cheats death; namely the undead and those who manipulate time
I think the forgotten isles have the most promise. You could allow for undead factions, attempting to reclaim leadership of the isle and have a raid to prevent Viego from controlling the dead. It could be a new zone filled with magics of the dead and ressurection.resurrection.. the isle of the blessed dark. New playable characters, New Spells, and creation of homunculi and phylactery golem, housing long dead blessed isle mages.
Asmon NEEDS to finish Arcane. Not only is it a fantastic animated series, It would really help to set the stage and gives a great perspective of the scope of the world.
"This was a horrible war using children as soldiers..."
Asmon: I love this
it's all about that moral ambiguity lolol
@@tomstark28 I was about to comment something similar haha.
lol
I like this too, not the idea of using child soldiers, but what it represents and what it tells us about the involving nations. Also, it is very real and unfiltered
"And Demacia has racism."
Asmon: That's sounded cool.
I enjoy the lore of League more than I do the actual game. It's a gold mine of great fantasy and an MMO is perfect to finally let people experience all of it
League has some of my all time favorite lore, riot does phenomenal in that department. I have nothing but high hopes for their mmo.
Where can I get the comics?
Im permabanned in league. Love lore though
THIS
I absolutely hate League of Legends but I really like the lore and love Legends of Runterra. Coming from a former Heartstone player, LoR is great and has one of the fairest monetization models I have ever seen.
What Necrit has done over the years to teach people about the League Lore is very valuable!
I think Riot owes a lot to Necrit & TB Skyen in terms of showing people how amazing the lore is. Tons of people had preconceived notions about the LOL lore and those two have really done a lot in turning that around.
@@schneedgod They definetly know their contribution in keeping the lorea community alive and well, and one thing they did was ad Necrit to the Viego game
@@mc4tarzans i didnt know that thats so cool
wow I didn't know a Czech guy is so popular 😀god damn it. I am proud of him.
Asmon if you ever decide to dive into Riot lore Necrit(the guy who made this video) is the best source to learn about all of it. He is so thorough and gets through all of it so well
His videos were so good it made me want to play league. I still hate him for it.
@@dtj8930 that's a mistake and as a former league player and a current TFT and Lor player, I am sorry
Reddit Lol community has a massive hate bonner for him for some reason.
I remember playing around when Wukong was released. At the time the lore was just character lore pages and a weekly like 'summoner newsletter' type thing. I could be misremembering.
@@E7ernalWolf Yeah I remember that. It was really fun
I just love how invested Asmon got listening to Necrit explaining the lore. Like most people who play League, they play it to become better and climb the ranks and only the minority really cares about the lore of the game. But since this is an MMO, lore is gonna be important. And seeing Asmon who knows nothing about the game, not only just being intrigued by the lore but also imagining the countless possibilities of it being fully realized and playable and being able to play the game in the future. I think this is what I appreciate more about his reaction than just like some random dudes on the internet who reacts to League cinematics or whatever.
I am GM in league and I care about lore kiddo
@@Celorblas ur silver
bold of you to assume league players care about getting better
Lore is for nerds.
Yeah, I could just rewatch this video over and over again just seeing his reactions lol
The worldbuilding has pretty much be done in character lore in the LoL in game client, events, cinematics etc. etc. Bit by bit they built it up over years and years of time. I'm really hoping their MMO gets made well. Because the potential is massive.
They have enough cash flow to make it good... That and they have lore
Lets just hope it's not a cookie cutter mmo and focuses on low-mid end requirements.
@@MonSteh Amazon Game Studios also had enough cash flow to "make it good" and they delivered a super average MMO overall. Riot has more lore going for it but there's still a ton of potential to screw it up.
Something people are not mentioning often enough: Riot is also constantly evolving their lore through their other games. New league characters might come from a previously unknown region or traveled somewhere and gained their powers there. Looking for a new event? Let's write in a war between two nations and have players pick sides. Even skins can bring in some new piece of lore.
It's a massive advantage having these things interconnected.
League has alternate universes from the skinlines
A lot of skinlines could provide enough material for a game and IT WILL SELL
@@beo3828 they are just different versions of the same champion on a time line, not a evolution but just different
@@beo3828 Spirit Blossom skins are also canon. It's just that they represent totally different characters than the Champions they're for. As an example, Spirit Blossom Thresh is a different character and has a different name in-lore, but he still exists.
imagine they just make a dimensional portal event and take you to the star guardian universe or dark star universe where you could complete some event stories and get some cool armor and items you wouldn't be able to get otherwise because it wouldn't fit the main world of Runeterra. Not to mention the Celestials and Targon Prime which are interstellar and connected to multiple planets, it's literally infinite potential (as Syndra would say xd)
@@beo3828 Actually no. Spirit Blosson Yasuo and Yone have a very similar backstory to the originals, but they actually are different two brothers who are, as you said, dead and exist as spirits in Ionia.
Though I lied a bit when I said that all Spirit Blossom skins represent different characters. Spirit Blossom Kindred is actually the exact same being as the original, it's just they take different forms in different regions based on people's beliefs, and that's how Ionians see them.
dude LITERALLY made a whole video specifically for asmonddddddddfDDDDDDD. LMFAO
Well he did get the video idea from asmonds reaction to ghostcrawller tweets
Who’s Asmond?
Pretty smart RUclipsr strategy, make a video with a larger content creator in mind. Common tactic
@@Wangus899 there. Fixed.
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Unlike most MMOs that get announced, I'm really excited for this one. Riot is basically what Blizzard used to be. IK for sure that this MMO is gonna be great, especially since it's using LOL lore.
yeeeeeeeeeeeah and look what blizzard turned into.....they ruined league over the years and turned it more into a gambling simulator to generate money then a competitive game and valorant isnt close to what they said they wanted to do with it initially in terms of how realistic and accurate the gunplay and abilities are. Lets be real. They will copy WoW format but do it better because its 20 years later but thats relative when its 20 years later and your a billion dollar bussiness. Itll be great for a few years then they wiill give in and turn to making money over quality and we will all be on to the next thing rinse dopamine receptors and wallets and repeat
Now I fear Riot will become what Blizzard is now...
@@fishbones3650 this is the eventuality for all companies. On the bright side they’ve already had sexual allegation issues.
Hell no mann, Ol' Blizzard was something else. We had Blizzard GMs everywhere f*cking with us having fun with us just pretty much enjoying it all and Blizzard was just making game for making game, anyone could get offended by sexual jokes, no one gave a fuck. Hell, Illidan had a HAREM, still no one gave a fuck, now, we can't even /spit on someone or /pathetic someone. Because trans or gay or women or child get offended.
Making new games that happen to be successful =/= the old Blizzard. Blizzard pioneered and successfully topped several genres. Riot made a few successful games and some above average ones.
Riot's been building League lore for a loong time now. League has been out for 13 years now and while the lore started really simple they've been working at it for a long time now building and expanding the world. They've written many stories, they've been killing it with the cinematics and in November last year we finally got an actual series where they showed a wider audience what their team is capable of. Riot's got some really talented writers, the world is already incredibly interesting and it seems like with this MMO they're going to push it even further.
Never played LoL and not a fan of it, but god damn happened to watch Arcane on Netflix few months ago and I can imagine the world/lore Riot can build just from that show. I am super stoked for this MMO.
when i used to play LoL they just released champs like every 2 weeks, so no. back then they did not had any lore at all.
to be honest they only really started to put it together like during season 7 or 8. because the lore before it was just weak. Just random people summoned to fight on the rift for countries to take land.
@@dango2917 yeah pretty much, at first it was just this champ is from this region, and a bit of lore on how they got their powers or something. Which also makes sense since back then Riot was focused on building a good game and a successful E-Sports scene, when they cemented themselves as the giants they are they were able to focus more on this aspects that dont directly impact the game or the esports scene. What i have to commend Riot for is that they have expanded the lore of those old champions (or at least most of them), which many devs would probably ignore and just do expanded lore for newly released characters.
@@dango2917 Wouldn't be surprised if in s7-s8 the idea and a rough plan for Riot MMO was being laid out. The amount of time it takes for the idea of a new game to reach actual development could be years.
I remember when the story of league was just some random character champions tossed togethor forced to do battle by some omnipotent "summoner" represented by you the player controlling them to do battle.
To go from that to seeing the compexity of and amazing quality of their story to the point that even some of their skin lines are better written than any lore wow has put out in the last 10 years. Riots art team is now on another level.
Yeah, the "league" was retconned out of the universe a long time ago. Good thing too, it sucked.
@@LunaticThinker It was definitely a bad lore piece that held their story lore back. DOTA failed to shutter it's game-focused lore roots and now we have no true canon lore because everything is canon in a massive multiverse, because the Ancients restart time whenever they are on the brink of destruction.
The funniest thing is people were actually annoyed and hated that they retconned the original story.
too bad they dont make any fun games
@@idklol4197 All of their games are doing well against their competitors. Your opinion means nothing
It would be interesting if they released each zone following a story, but not all at once. Make it extremely detailed zones/quests and bring the story to a certain point. After that, a major event that present the new area after it's completed with quality quests/storytelling and detailed zones. They have a good product in their hand....it just that companies usually bite more than they can chew....focus on a smaller map but with quality, then after that is done, release the new area. I would not mind to pay monthly to play a game with that kind of intent behind it....but that's not how it's probably going to go down
Riot games is known to excel at what they do lately. Having only 1 region on release will be more than terrible. Why would I play Noxian if I gotta do quests in demacia and vice-versa? Instead of focusing on a small map with quality just take the time to make a huge map with the same quality, which is what they're doing
@@hM-gx3hq when i meant ''smaller'' i meant the entire region from a ''faction/country''.
All i am saying is not to try to release the entire or almost the entire map at once or in a short period of time. Also, riot games is known for many things, none of them is for making quality games...
@@aldrich2825 Wdym not quality games, League? Huge success. TFT? Don't see any other autobattlers rivaling that one. Valorant? Huge competition to CS. Even Runeterra is good but not wildly successful even tho it def is a good game. So i have no clue how u come to that blatantly wrong conclusion mate
@@MegaPopelboy Legue is really popular....that does not mean its a quality game. Huge success, completely agreed with you.
So... Genshin Impact?
So with this you have the basic ins and outs about the general world lore.
Now consider theres 140+ characters each with their owns stories inside of that world and a crazy amount of sidecharacters also with fleshed out stories.
This has the potential to be REALLY awesome.
@@Nightstalker314 i believe, they did said that they will not be focus around the champions in league because of that same thing (? They will be here and there but will likely not have the great impact that you would expect (no all of them, but with plenty) like, in Ionia they could mention Shen or Zed, but what they do wouldn't be the focus, but rather the thing that caused them to do it? Idk if I explained right
But basically, they expect to make canon characters that are not champions to move the MMO(? Alongside the champions themselves
@@gg_ingy imagine dragons is more canon than shaco is
@@Shiftry87 Another problem with using LoL Champions as characters in MMO is that Riot will be very limited in what they can do with them. It's the same problem that prevents them from properly developing lore storylines. Champions are built around a particular status quo and changing it in any significant amount will also require changes in LoL. Killing one is outright impossible. For now at least. We've seen devs being at least somewhat willing to go that way with Viego, but still, there are limits.
@@antongrigoryev6381 imo, you can actually kill them, some champions is already dead in lore, or changed, compared to in-game, some are from difference age/era/time, so you can think as summoner's rift can summons champions from the past to present, etc. so even if a champion die or changed, it still won't affact the summoner's rift much. EDIT: and they can also just update some voice lines into the game like Jinx/Vi or update the whole thing like Gangplank, etc.
As a league enthusiast and a lover of the lore
I always love seeing people react to just a fraction of it!
i feel exactly the same, it's always nice to see more people getting familiar with the lore.
It's so underappreciated!
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smae here bro
Same. I stopped playing LoL some time ago, but I enjoy the lore and eSports a lot and I play LoR and TFT. Love the setting and love the characters.
To be honest, I didn’t even know there was lore in LoL
I find the concept of Aurelion Sol being a boss hilarious. He's just going to be trashtalking you the entire time with his hours of dialogue.
We REALLY need more competition in the MMO space. A successful game is in the best interest of everyone, not just the people actively playing it.
MMO games contain Clans or Guild and alliance system which is lead to a war between them , am excited to play lol's MMO game
You dont need competition, you need originality
@@royalecrafts6252 short of implementing VR into MMOs, which will not happen in the next 5 to 10 years because of the cost barrier to fill the servers (not to mention how hard it would be to code entire worlds like that without instancing areas quite heavily), there really isn't much that hasn't been tried, and if a gameplay concept doesn't do phenomanly well it's viewed as a lost cause by publishing companies.
Sadly, while I enjoy the lore of league a lot, if ten cent is involved in the decision making for riot's mmo I think "gameplay is king" will boil down to anything that keeps the player grinding away while selling overpriced skins or accessories. At least in terms of league of legends they stopped innovating years ago and are just riding the cash cow. I'd be very surprised to see them attempt true originality in the MMO, especially given how established the genre is.
The only hope I have is that they ironically make a monthly-sub based game like WoW and actually focus on gameplay development and PvP events that will engage people to form good communities, but again there's no guarantee they would allocate revenue to their development teams to push risky and original ideas, and in terms of community league is extremely toxic and I have no faith that won't bleed over into the MMO and make large-scale events miserable.
@@BB-zq6hy on point, it will be just a generic mmo again, even ashes of creation will be generic again, you see the combat? Is just spam left click all fetched
@@andylarkin5779 well, they still suck, no combo system, no stance system, let alone a combo and stance tree that you can unlock and combine in whatever way you see fit, let alone block/parry/deflect system, is just click click click fetched fetched fetched easy shit
It'd be hilarious if the PVP of this game teleports your character to Summoners Rift to play League with the rest of PVP players. 😂
Or the baron pit for 1v1s. Or the 2v2 or 3v3 map.
@@Tensooni good idea as well 😆
There's some really cool unreal engine versions of summoners rift
Summoners Rift is not canon so I really doubt it
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Kled could have his own entire expansion where you enlist into his "army" and reconquer "his" "rightful" territory.
Which is like, the entirety of Runeterra.
Until someone comes around and stop you.
I love how he slowly realises how powerful this Lore is, i personally been years around Riot's Work, since the Season 2! I'm a writer, a little amateur [and with hope lol], truly worldbuilding is kinda what i love to do most. And Riot simply NAILED IT, they took random pieces, persons, desings, that looked completly oppossite and made this World, vast, diverse, and with so much content!
I truly respect the writers of Riot Games, the Lore Team is incredible and i can probably say that it's one of the best out there when it comes to Lore of Games.
One thing about riot world building is that they have retconned and rewritten everything so many times that it finally works. Noxus and black lotus has been changed over 5 times, demacia has been changed a lot, with each champion coming out the previous ones get updated. Thats how we get this massive world.
@@mohammadnaghizade3544 Exactly! That's how you do Worldbuilding, taking pieces, rewritting, and connecting, if it doesnt work, try again, until it does!
They truly did an outstanding job tho, considering how vast and diverses the "pieces" were at the beggining.
The fact that almost* everything is connected by this point it's outstanding and you can clearly tell that it's a work of years and years.
Been around since beta myself. They do good lol
If you want to be a successful, proof read first.
What I love about this vid and Asmon's reaction to it is that so many pictures have people in them. Maybe half of those people are already characters in League of Legends (I was surprised Asmon didn't say anything until Ahri showed up) and they have their established lore in the world already. The other half are just random characters made up either by Riot or by people using the lore described by Riot. They all look distinct and unique and give so much added flavor to the world.
a lot of the pictures are actually cards from their card game legends of runeterra :)
I never played any MMO in my life, but this one sounds incredible lorewise. So I absolutely will try it out when it comes out!
Ur watching asmon vid, Who's basically WoW streamer that watched another "future MMO game" and u don't even play MMO? Wat o.o
@@itzikashemtov6045 yeah, I started to watch him after Depp/Heard trial and Elden Ring : D
@@itzikashemtov6045 I'm in the same camp xD
Kinda in the same camp. I don't play too many mmo's. But after watching arcane, I binged on League lore, and it's actually quite expansive and compelling. And I'm actually looking forward to this mmo
Same, I despised MMOs for how much time they take to really play. Now I really want to try one out, but I'll wait for the Riot one
This was such a good watch for a classic Asmon Video. The way Necrit showcased this video was very professional.
Minus the whole weird mic situation (sorry I am petty).
@@ericmaier9169 Him holding the mic vs having it attached to his shirt? I remember Necrit addressing that at one point but I forgot his reasoning.
My faith in this riot mmo has sky rocketed. Never knew the lore was this good
Read marvel & Riot's comic about the story of Frelijord and you will see that Riot has everything to make a MMO
no one knows how deep the Runeterra lore is because the games themselves (except for The Ruined King game) do not explain the lore at any point, Riot didn't start as an RPG Devteam, so those who know the Lore from playing League, know it because they went and read it on their own, but as someone that has played League since 2014, i can tell you, the Lore has no impact in LoL, or Legends of Runeterra, or TFT, or Valorant. Given that MMORPGs take 6+ years to develop, Riot probably knew they wanted to make an MMORPG before they were even close to starting the development of the MMO, which is why they did make the effort of creating an interesting world and put so much effort in the worldbuilding aspects of Runeterra.
Its not the lore is shit. Any lore enthusiast will tell you that LoLs lore is FULL of pointless retcons every 1-3 years and marketing affecting lore 2nd hand multiple times especially recently. People who praise the lore either dont care about this or are ignorant to these issues.
This is all very surface level, if you read the stories they write in the universe, you see how much quality is in there
100% agreed, I couldnt have said it better myself.
I got into the League universe by playing Legends of Runeterra, which is what most of the art used in this video is from. It’s such a good game and has almost nonexistent micro transactions for a trading card game.
This is like 1% of the league lore
Riot has a very good chance of creating the greatest mmo of all time
The Morbius of video games
@@dooddoingstuff it's morbin time
@@dooddoingstuff imagine if it is worse than new world lmao
As someone who knows nothing about League/Runeterra lore except for all of what was talked about in this video, and i didnt even understand/retain half of it, i am so absurdly intruiged by all of it. So thorough and vast, obviously built over a span of years, this has got to be one of the craziest fantasy worlds ive ever seen or heard of, and im loving every second. Its an information overload of course, and thats the last thing i need during all of this stressful school time, but hey least this is actually super fucking interesting
The best thing is you really can start reading almost any story and understand what is going on, creating and imagining the world around the story and yet everything is connected
League has one of the richest lores in game history, in fact most league players don't know or care about the lore, but even though most players don't care, they never stopped developing the world and it's history, I remember I had to read the characters profiles and web the lore together to make out the overall lore almost a decade ago, it's really, really amazing how they made something that grand even though it's a completely optional and "unimportant" part of the game.
Richest lores in game history... Pmsl are you for real or just 10?, league has the depth of a pot hole just bloated with shallow face value lore 😂
@@Bilbobaggins82242 Like most league players or people that never played league, you have no clue about the game lore, 10 year ago, even though you had to understand the lore by the champions profile, it had more depth than most MMO at the time, they expanded on the lore for 10 year since, you are clearly oblivious to it since it's not throw at your face like other games, your remark just show your ignorance.
@@Bilbobaggins82242 90 percent of the playerbase dosent know about to lore
@@Bilbobaggins82242 i personally wouldnt go as far as saying it has THE richest lore but it is definetly up there. What you are saying is just flat out proveably incorrect. Even if you dont like the lore wich you obviously are entiteled to, there is SO MUCH of it and it is all done with a very high level of care and effort. Over 160 playable champions with almost all of them having a pretty hefty and interesting character backstory, their own character theme song and usually 2-3 short storys to their name, hundreds more of already pretty well developed and cool side characters from LoR and the supplemental material. There is i think 5 short comic series and dozens of longer novellas, there is a lore/worldbuilding book, over 100 very high quality cinematics and promo vids of wich about 40% are actually canon lore material. The thousands of ingame Champion interactions and voicelines that give more details about relationships and history. About 15 distinct regions/nations all with very complex and diverse cultures, historys, visual styles and inhabitants and also a long and interesting storyline in concurrent canon. Fucking ARCANE! An entire Soundtrack of something like 200 ambient tracks that have accumulated over the years and exist for no other reason as to give vibes to the regions or some more to some characters. Hundreds of beautifull pictures and pieces of Artwork depicting the landscapes, creatures, peoples and history of the world ranging from concept art to full renderings. The list goes on and on.
Tl;Dr: as i said above, just because you dont like it, the objective ammount of care, effort and passion that has been put into this over the last decade by the artists and writers can not be denied on any logical or reasonable basis.
who cares about the lore when people just want to play the game to get kills and rank
As someone who has kept up with the all of the lore until about a year or 2 ago Its so cool seeing someone else see the world for the first time, the art/lore team has been absolutely killing it for the last 8+ years and seeing their work finally being put into games that can take full advantage of it is so cool. I just hope that riot dosnt drop the ball when it comes to the gameplay, I seriously doubt they will but you never know I guess.
If you have played league you know that riots strong suite is the gameplay.
League is a trash game, but the gameplay is great, its so smooth and clean and it feels great to play any of the champions, that said, at least the combat and movement will be top notch.
@@mech0p huh?
@@mech0p with cosmetics like they always have. riot is known for their non predatory f2p games.
@@mech0p I dont see them going down that route. They don't really have any reason anyways. Leauge has shown that they have an amazing cosmetics team bringing in tons of money. So people will buy cosmetics for the mmo for sure.
@@mech0p why would they when we have prime examples of LoR and Wild Rift
I just keep rewatching this because I love seeing Riots lore finally be appreciated by a big streamer, even better that is Asmongold. Makes the fanboy in me really happy
Riot lore is retconned to hell.
Been following league's lore for a good 8 years now, watching Necrit was my main go to for anything lore related and seeing so many people not actually know about LoLs lore is just surprising to me since it's world is so great
@@TarisRedwing they didn't delete it they just made it harder to access (not literally) since not many people go to the league website and actually check it out which is the only way to read up on it outside of champion bios. Unless you were referring to the old league lore before it was completely revamped then yea it was deleted lol.
@@TarisRedwing unless you talking about old league lore reboot from 10+ years ago, idk what your talking about, everything is still on league of legends universe.
@@rowmein nah bro, the way Riot dealt with LoL lore was really bad until recently, they removed the diary inside the launcher, they stopped doing the champions judgments which were great to know more about each character backgroud, they retconned dozens of champions backgrounds because they had no idea what to do with the lore and how to connect everything. I can't tell exactly when they started to actually work on their worldbuilding but it's not more than 5 years. But to be fair, once they knew which direction they wanted to go they started doing a good job at it most of the time
@@ramontavaresdacruz2256 Bro the journal was deleted like 8 years ago. They've been retconning and reworking the story to suit the new world since
@@hinnyu7748 I do read the lore but whenever I'm not in the mood or I'm at work and need something to pass the time i know necrit has me covered, and I know everything he says isn't always 100% correct or certain he makes mistakes as well which is why i don't just believe all of his theories you always have to take them with a pinch of salt. But the man has been following League's lore longer than a large majority of everyone else so of course whatever he says has credibility to it.
It would be sick if you could choose whatever race, region and class you want to start at and each combination has a different "intro" story before they all eventually start connecting to each other until they all culminate into whatever the main story of the game is and every expansion following it. I feel the zones definitely have more than enough possibilities to make it possible.
This is the correct hope.
Darkin race? I must become Aatrox protégé
Id love if you could actually side with different factions you know? Like being part of the mage seekers in demacia or be part of the rebellion. Same goes for Piltover and Zaun.
Been following Necrit months after he started and I love his content, it never dissapoints. I'm super excited to watch this cus I love your takes on things since you always keep it real Asmongold. Also did you know that Riot made Necrit an actual character in their "Ruined King" game and the voice actor tried to replicate how he talks!? Was such a cool nod to all the work he's done about league.
They actually refered to him as "god of lore"(might have been king) in one of the videos. Maybe an interview or q panel i think
@@noam242 I believe he was the Kings "Royal Advisor" in the game (Been to long since I played it). Though he has spoken first hand to many of the dev/writing team along with I believe CEO's on game matters.
Soda was giving less comment when he watched this LULW
@@Rokuns i meant un realated to the game. Idk what he is called in the game since i havent played or watched a gameplay of it.
I know he had a contact in riot and interviewed some of them a few times but not that he is in constant talking with them and consulting them, thats cool.
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I am so pumped for riots mmo. Ive been an avid fan of their world building for years, and the thought of a decent mmo from all that... absolutely makes me happy for the future. I only hope they dont ruin it.
@William Hall Ive been around since they had the annual newspapers thats literally began the lore. Also the same shit happened with world of warcraft. Lots of the warcraft lore was boring as fuck to begin with until people started getting into it.
@William Hall It was basic for 60% of its life - but they are allowed to go back and touch up what the "basic" and "terrible" lore.
btw not a real argument LMAO
@@Damnagora Yeah going back and changing it is called a retcon, and it's generally considered a sign of bad or weak storytelling. "Not a real argument." why? What exactly do you mean? How is it disqualified as an argument?
the riot mmo is gonna be the worst thing ever. imagine everything thats been wrong with mmos for the past 20 years and turn it up 10 fold. its not gonna be hardcore, its gonna be streamlined as all hell, accessible to everyone, microtransactions galore, p2w...just a complete disaster. everything is gonna primarily revolve around them making money (and not just making money but making the most money humanly possible at the expense of the consumer). the lol mmo is gonna be the personification of what corporate greed looks like (i hope im wrong, but i highly doubt that i am)
@@doubleclick4132 You all this as asmon plays tower of whatever. Riot has great games, none of which having pay to win. I feel as if theyll do good.
Man, you just GOTTA watch Arcane, since you value morally complex characters so much, this is for me one of the strongest points of this show! Furthermore, the visual and sound design is just out of this world amazing, and concepts like shizophrenia are very well implemented into their visual design in a very creative way I've never seen before.
yes he should
Arcane is an artistic masterpiece, no question.
I love this lore and it has a lot of possibilities to go further but I hope unlike Blizzard they give us time with newly introduced or developed characters before they make them integral or expect us to care, Blizzard used up all the existing lore and then plowed on with a mixture of pure retcon and that weird inbetween where you add stuff and there by change context of existing lore but not actually changing events. I prefer the latter but I have to care about the developments and ramifications and not feel like theyre irrelevant the moment the next expansion drops
The lore Riot has created is very intriguing, but so far it's largely been a bunch of storylines that are cool ideas more than anything else. They can tell individual stories with it, but what I'm really interested in seeing is if they can take their eclectic lore and bring it all together in an MMO. They definitely have a leg up with so many people who already have some knowledge of it and are anxious to explore the world further, so hopefully they can pull it off, but I think too many people are assuming that their starting point is simply going to work because it sounds interesting. Even if they don't do it well it may work for some time, but if it's not cohesive then it will start to show cracks over time.
But above all else, the fact that LoL has forced them to create such a diversity of storylines could be a great strength for them. They're basically obligated to take the risks to create a very unique world rather than trying to find ways for it to conform into something simpler.
Im thinking riot is going down. Cause i think they keep focusin on the likes of eboys and egirls...
@@Impervious11 I think they will focus on their huge storyline character and ignore the minimize ones like Asol is so improtant for lore but Jhin is not that important and they will create mostly dungeons and raids on these characters and video creater already explained every region has own main stroyline and connected storyline and these are make me so excited cause I beleive this game will be huge and so feed up about content and Riot Games always makes their game f2p and wittout p2w I hope it'll come fast.
This game will be dope, I'm sure of it
@@Impervious11 They'll probably do what they did with Arcane and use the lore as a base and tweak it slightly to tell a more coherent story.
For story telling, Riot will have an easier time with characters than WoW. Warcraft only had a handful of characters people really knew and cared about. League has hundreds. And as League is constantly shitting out new champions, there will be room for their MMO to occasionally kill off a few for story. I think Arcane really showed us that Riot can truly visualize the world building of League. It also showed us they can write a fucking story. And cutscenes will be fire in the MMO, as their in-house animators made Arcane.
And don't forget the best part of RIOT games... their MUSIC is Grammy worthy!
PLUS they aren't afraid of creating important characters that aren't in the game. E.g. Silco from Arcane was crucial in Arcane, but only made it to TFT and is never coming to League. There are so many super strong characters and beings in the world that haven't been touched on in the game, which is honestly super cool.
I'm worried that they will have so many characters, a lot of them won't gain enough attention.
A French animation studio made Arcane, not their in-house team. Not to take anything from their in house team.
@@robertcharrasse4002 Brother, Fortiche was made of 5 people. Riot themselves hired 300 people for Fortiche to do the arcane series. Fortiche is literally Riot Games. They even bought Like majority of stakes in the company now.
It made me so happy to see how interested Asmon is in everything here and how intently he listens and wants to understand and take it all in. I wish there were more people like this in the world who want to listen like this.
It was genuinely so soothing to my small spikes of anxiety when I perceived very lore-heavy parts of Necrit’s video being explained and I thought it could be an overload for anyone new to the lore, but then Asmon takes a moment to repeat back what he heard, process it, then repeatedly give it praise! Thank you.
Also, if you love all these morally grey characters and stories and powerfully raw and well fleshed out narratives, you will fucking love Arcane! Please watch it and tell us what you think! I haven’t stopped having thoughts on it since it came out.
Finally, i have waiting this for so long. He needs to watch more NECRIT vids.
Yes Necrit is awesome
@@mattdavies0792 le lore father
For sometime Riot has essentially been Blizzard's child, coming out of WC3 DotA with LoL and keeping the similar style of art and games throughout, then going further. They show that passion that Blizzard lost, making groundbreaking amazing cinematics, world building and even developing other games which are highly successful.
They're kinda going the same route but a different one like Blizzard, and so far they've innovated game genres that exist just as Blizzard did as well, only that I feel I'm quite confident they have what it takes to really create something new and great that the players want, or have the same vision, rather than Blizzard that seems to lost their touch.
It's the leadership in my opinion. Riot has a f***ing superbrain ontop of it that has been proven time and time again.
Blizzard went foul when Activision came in. They managed to make everyone with passion leave. Nowadays there are at most 5 people of original Blizzard left in the whole company. I have seen a Video about that.
Let's hope that Riot's superbrain will keep leading the Company for a long time to come. It might only need for one right person to fall out for it all to crumble.
While I would agree a couple of years ago current Riot feels very fabricated when the people behind stuff talk.
They've started to show the cracks that could lead to them becoming just like Blizzard or any other money hungry company that deems themselves better than their playerbase.
There is enough lore to make something really interesting, but Riot is capable of ruining it.
@@JustSomeoneRandom1324 ye... mfs doesn’t care about Wildrift.... they don’t support competitive scene on mobile based player rich country like Philippines... thus the bootleg games like Mobile Legends thrives there
@@JustSomeoneRandom1324 it does seem as riot grows they get more like ea, activision etc. i hope they dont go the same way as blizzard. for now at least they seem pretty good
Being deep into the lore of League since long now, when I watched Necrit's video I thought it was well made and that he brought good points, but watching you react to it makes me realize how well put together his video is, and it really highlights how developed the lore of League is. As the years goes by I love it's lore more and more over the actual gameplay. The thing I think Riot's writers do best is morally grey zones. There is A LOT of characters that look good or evil at first glance, but when you dig into their lore you realize that it's way more complex than that (Morgana vs Kayle for example, Viktor (the canon one) too). I absolutely can't wait to dive deeper into this world with the MMO!
Necrit does extremely good lore videos, glad asmon reacted to him.
not only does league have amazing lore for its zones, the character lores are also amazing.
@Hiddel Subbeldees okay, but Arcane?
@Hiddel Subbeldees and I'm guessing you watch Rick and Morty?
@@redbruhcolli 🧢
Ah yes, shaco.🤣
@@redbruhcolli League has the perfect lore for an MMO. There is better fantasy lore but can it compete with league and its already 160 unique champions. That's a lot of characters to explore
The main villain of arcane was a completely new character i believe and he was absolutely amazing. His vibe and voice were so chilling. I'm really hyped for this even though I have never played an mmo before
I'm feeling the same sort of anticipation for this game as I did for WoW at about the same stage in it's development. Blizzard's rep in the industry was phenomenally high at the time, the tabloids had already run stories about how the nation's children were getting hooked on 'Evercrack' and Warcraft 3 was getting the sort of mainstream attention PC games hardly ever received back then because it was considered so niche compared to the consoles - remember that? Asmon knows what's up - studio with a big rep, great lore, beautiful and very distinct stylised art, an already enormous fanbase. This is the WoW killer of infamy.
Its kinda funny to consider that on their tenth birthday Riot decided to kill Blizzard and they are already well on their way! :D
It cant be like that bcs gameplay is like diablo so they can kill only that stupid games when they make game like wow 3rd person wasd walking jumping and everything then we can say its wow killer
Lol equals warcraft then the follow up to wow XD
This is not "the WoW killer". That title is useless because WoW has fallen so far and already been dethroned. Yeah its still going okay but the 70 yr old man that walks the park every day is doing okay also, yet he is still so far pasted his prime any younger person could take him out. Taking out an old man means nothing, old age won the fight for you. WoW has "killed" itself.
The true WoW killer....is WoW itself
I think Demacia, Freljord and Nexus could be the three starter locations and Shurima be the endgame zone or an expansion + Ionia.
I agree that shurima can be an end game zone for the continent that has been shown since they can also branch it so that we can go through the void by going to an entrance in icathia
I hope not. WOW showed us how bad it is to have zones to level in and one endgame zone. Riot needs to have everything tie into the end game. I don't want any of the zones to become obsolete and barren because their endzone is somewhere else. Have us travel to Noxus to buy certain metals to forge with the wood from Demacia to make a weapon. Some people might find it tedious but Riot's big advantage is how fleshed out their world is and the atmosphere it provides. If they make keeping it their top priority the game will do great
@@muea.8392 it can go its own route with lookback on ff for inspiration.
Be it a story, an event, for a scenery or for a convinience - you revisit older zones from time to time. And rarely you feel like you forced too.
Albeit cuz of wow i almost hate an idea of any kind zones scaling or whatever. I WANT to get my character stronger so that in the older zones nothing can really hurt me except for some high level elites/event enemies/world bosses.
@@gerbo8018 Its going to be a casual friendly game so i doubt there is going to be huge xp grinds and level zones. If i had to guess they would release the whole map with starting story, and then release expansions based on story and not zones. Unlike to this video i think the story would start way earlier than what its shown here as there is so much that havent been mentioned in this video.
@@gerbo8018 8+? What mmos have you been playing? The ones that i played are 100hours+ as is the case in every modern MMO. 8hours would be fine if it was story driven.
What's better is that they can make cool titles for the events. Imagine the event, "The Climb to Targon" or "The Shuriman Void War". Titles are very underrated but is very important. How many times you clicked on a video because of the cool title or reading a news because the headline attracted you.
With good titles, you can get players attention to join the event and the more unique the title is, the more people can remember it, becoming free advertisement.
"they don't have a balance team" i don't think people realize how hard it is to truly balance characters/weapons in games. there's pro play which deserves attention, but there's also the higher elo players, and then there's the casual bottom tier players where majority of games player base always are. changes in one elo doesn't reflect the same targets in another.
Wasnt there a champion who was in a spotlight before its release and people knew it was going to be broken, but riot just did anyway. And then Riot realized its actually broken, so they remove the champs features and nerfed it.
the lore sounds so cool, the freljord one really surprised me. As a fan of lovecraftion horror that stuff sounded amazing
Don't worry, it gets better even.
@Hiddel Subbeldees gatekeeping lovecraft? Really? Man
i've read a couple of his books yes. No need to get salty about it though, it's clear the LoL lore is not as 'lazy' as you make it seem and i think it's great that the lovecraftian vibes are in there somewhere.
@Hiddel Subbeldees moreover, sure we have Lovecraft with his books. Yes there are some great stories in there, but of it is scribble, dense and hard to read. Yes I have a few collection books from him. But you know what Lovecraft is a synonym to, or even literally the same thing? A genre. It's a genre. Do you get where I'm getting at?
The story "silenced of the damned" is the story where that type of horror shines through. It's also the only one with that type of stuff though
1 year later, from Riot : we're going dark on the MMO and it will not be worked on for several years.
lol
What they've never announced that the MMO's been shelved, it has been restarted and leadership change but no pause on development
how the hell could you interpret it that way ?! they're going dark in the media, so they can focus on development without outside pressures. so the opposite of what you wrote, lol. Do you hear news the same way?
It would be incredible if during a Mordekaiser boss raid, he uses his league ultimate and puts someone in his realm for X amount of time for an epic 1 v 1
I watched arcane back in November, fell in love with it and decided to spend months reading up on lore and watch necrits videos. Im excited for Riots mmo. Even ended up getting a simple zaun crest tattooed onto my neck and have Jinx's graffiti Monkey on my arm and as Wow veteran since OG BC launch. Im genuinely hoping that we get like a teaser video of some sort for it later this year. Zaun will be the place i hang out the most if its available at launch lol.
Going to nexus and pvp world killing everyone one the field 😎😎😎
Jinkx's monkey is so iconic at this point
man id kill for a teaser, also yeah man zaun for life
Regarding the new characters isue @36:09, the big advantage of the Riot MMO is that they can release the "new characters" on its other games first, then adopt to the MMO later. This is an advantage only Riot has. For WOW, I think it's a hit and miss but since Riot can test it first whether people will like the new character art and lore by releasing it on other games, they can make sure each character is a banger.
You see, people don't really care TOO MUCH about the lore on other games like I played Yorick for 5 years in League of Legends and never know his lore or ever looked at it. Using myself as a standard, I will always try the new champions regardless if their lore is bad. My point is, even if the lore is bad, the "new character" still has a purpose. Then, if the lore is good, that's just a bonus, then they can apply it to the MMO which is lore-focused than gameplay-focused. Games like Runeterra and League of Legends, even if the lore is bad, but good gameplay for the new characters, people will play it. But for MMO, where a lot would probably be more interested in the lore, bad lore relevance may also mean bad player experience.
I have really not been excited by new releases in mmos at all, I played wow then recently ff but none of the new releases or anything, but this gives me serious early wow vibes, pure worldbuilding and telling small stories within a vast world, and I wanna go adventure in it
Personally, I think the MMO should take place before most of the current lore of league. I think it’d be very cool and also allows them creative freedom to narratively create new characters that can be transitioned to league.
This Lore has been going since i think 2008. The war between Noxus and Ionia was player based in league of legends. They had pros play a game of League of Legends to determine the outcome of that specific Lore. I remember having a watch party with my friends in college during that time. Crazy to believe how it all developed but I'm happy it did
I feel Riot does 2 things the absolute best when it comes to any games they create.
The lore, of course, and the music to accompany it. There was damn good music in Arcane to set the mood, each region gives you the idea of it by composition, even the characters from League itself have their own unique music that brings out their character so much.
I'd say visuals and dev communication. League devs frequently answer stuff on reddit and twitter and ghostcrawler is also doing it almost daily. Their cinamtics in the past few years were also sooo good visually.
things I miss in blizzard games. But I'm glad Riot's gonna be the new Blizzard for me
Loved the jumping Puzzles in gw2. Mount targon seems to benthe perfect place for a huge "Fall Guy" like jumping puzzle instead of some generic dungeon. Also something like delve from poe fits these games really well. Dont make gameplay generic and turn this world into wow with a new riot cloak. The beauty of mmorpgs is that you can be really creative with different activities.
I'm writing a progression fantasy
In one of the dungeons the main group encounters, they have to kill a boss that is comprised of lightning with giant iron rods, grounding it and effectively nullifying it's existence
No damage done to the thing by the characters
There are jump puzzles and obstacles between the ballistias set up to shoot the rods
Wish there was more of that
"The Midnight Wars"
Coming whenever I finish it
nah fuck jumping puzzles go play a roblox obstacle course
i'd like to climb mount targon as an awakening quest of some sort
Any game that involves a big enemy that you can't damage with ur weapons.
Targon could make a great endless roguelite dungeon with platform-like sections. Lore-wise it's probably for the best, we wouldn't want the possibility of players becoming Aspects
For others that are interested in the lore and want to look into more, some of the LoL champs with the best lore are Jhin, Pyke, Mordekaiser, Sylas, Camille, Diana/Leona, Kindred, Pantheon, and Fiddlesticks
he's absolutely right that villains need to win sometimes, so the heroes can come back stronger. at the last episode of ATLA book 2 i really thought Aang was gonna whoop everybody but azula zapped him in the back during the transformation.
one small reason why MMO takes 6+ years to make is that there are no good MMO engine out on the market and the few that exist (blizzards wow engine) is locked for anyone but blizzard themself.
If I wanted to make a FPS game (anything from a COD/Battlefield clone in the same scale) to a 32vs32 Multiplayer FPS game I got hundreds of engine to choice from (unity, unreal 3, 4 and now 5)
far cry engine (was a pain to get thought), Source 1 and Source 2.
same whit RTS game there is a good chunk of options and I could just make it the netcode for a 32vs32 game is there already in the box just need content and all that.
if I wanted to make a MMO I needed to first get a engine then get the network for that kind of scale a MMO needs I need to make that as for a long time there was littarly nothing on the market.
and Unreal 3 and 4 is starting to collapse under the age of the engine limitation.
there was a dedicated MMO engine out there for a time (hero engine sadly only SWTOR used it and 1 other game used it... elder scrools used it for a short time but stoped).
so a lot of that time is just spending getting a basic engine to work for the task.
you know that basic 1 week unity tutorial videos you seen that ends whit a game demo that's is a 1 vs 1 FPS game on a super basic N64 level style grey arena whit basic weapons maybe power upp movements and a jump function.
that is what most MMO looks like after several years of hard work. becaues they needed to make everything more or less from scratch.
meanwhile if I wanted to make a Battlefield clone that would be 1-2 weeks at most in unity, unreal or source, amusing the person can code at any level.
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They got Valorant from Valoran
Not the other way around. LoL champions mentioned Valoran 10 years ago already. The shopkeeper in Howling Abyss too
As someone whos played wow and league i can say League really has more developed characters that i have grown to love. Pretty much all of them. On top of also having nice world building. League mmo really could/would be greater than wow.
For years even when riot only had lol I always found the lore so interesting and always wondered why they put so much effort in it and wondered if they would ever do anything with it. Now after arcane and this mmo I finally understand and I’m so happy with the direction riot games is going in
i love wow and i always will but the one thing about the game that turns me and my friends off from playing it is the subscription , i hate subscriptions in any game just ruins it for me
The art for this universe is completely stunning. Pretty much every picture here would be an amazing wallpaper. Incredible.
After watching Arcane I was blown away by what Riot can do. If they use the world building from Arcane in this MMO this might be a potential banger.
"I actually don't think it's as far away as people might believe"
So impressive that RITO has been building this for 12 years. When this hits all the big streamers will be running this. 100.
Yeah in 8 years lol
@@TheChocolatePeacock sadly the truest of trues
@@ranknonewarrior They have like 15 years of content to build off of. Makes it way easier.
Damn, this was a good video. Genuinely had no idea the lore was this developed or this interesting. Fingers crossed Riot can nail this.
Yeah and that's not even the tip of the Iceberg. Runeterra's lore is massive.
@William Hall best combat system??
Something that is very relevant to me is that if in wow season of discovery they are implementing that mechanic of fusing powers into armor, maybe someone within riot is implementing that mechanic for league of legends mmo, that always happens before a game comes out. the sale, and the competition finds out about this mechanism and everyone wants to have it.
"The world is the main character. The player is the story. The community is the content" - Chris Kaleiki, ex-Blizzard WoW Dev
The unapologetic inclusion of strife, sacrifice, and atrocity, makes this story better than anything MMO gaming has seen in the last two decades. Heroes need a dark world to save, and villains need a world without training wheels on it.
Because Riot has the balls to do dark dark stuff like arcane , and doesnt interfere too much in people's work except in LoL skin making
Everything sounds amazing, and yeah, very much like WoW, with the years and years of lore-building through previous games and such. But, I disagree with the idea that the mountain description, where it was simply stated he thinks it will be a great place to get armor. The description of that place, and the lore behind it, remind me tremendously of Everquest, with the Planes of Power.
I think that after some expansions, and players ascending through levels and abilities, it would naturally progress to a point where the characters would want to 'Ascend'. So, perhaps an expansion that acts as kind of a trial, where the players would have to journey and fight through different challenges, to reach the peak, and be awarded more deific-level power, and obtain a choice of aspects. Maybe these aspects could be tied to the choice of challenges? And, the character would have those aspects as options to swap around when needed, but would have to complete the trials. One might be tied to a solo challenge, another to a group, one for raid level, perhaps one for a trial of traps and environmental stuff, etc etc.
Different paths to tread to arrive at the peak, so different Aspects to be claimed.
Here I am watching this video for the 4th time... I simply love to see asmon engaging to league's lore and getting excited about almost everything Necrit is saying
Man Riot really woke up one day and said “Hey, you know all that stuff Blizzard did? Let’s do that but better.”
Except that they haven’t lol.
@@thevannmann If you turn on your monitor, you'll notice that they have.
@@thevannmann lol ok man. Can’t admit Blizzard is about to be dethroned by Riot?
Some side information about Poros that some people might not know:
-Poros are made, quite literally, out of love. They are equal parts innocence, valor and truth.
-They do not have sexual organs nor do they partake in reproductive activities. Instead, they eat and eat and eat until they grow large enough. Then they explode into dozens of tiny poros and that's how they reproduce.
-Poros are so cute that when in the presence of humans, a human will noticeably become less intelligent. It's completely out of their control and almost like a magic spell.
-A group of poros is called a Fluft
-Very little is known about Poro society and Poro politics, which is a mind fuck by itself because they're literally just animals, but the Poros do have a king called the Poro King.
-Poros have mood-horns. Their horns go up when excited and droop when they're sad.
Gonna be a good game. League has some really, really cool lore. This guy is summarizing A LOT too.
I’m very reserved on getting excited about a new game but to hear this amount of lore gets me hopeful for this games success and I hope to experience the universe Riot has created.
thetwo things i left with are that 1) i really wish ppl knew how to dress and 2) no they should not enable people ERping in a PG game.
is it REALLY that hard to be a nerd (me) and be normal socially as well as look good (emphasis on at least trying a little bit) at the same time????
If you really like this background lore, you should do a stream of watching some of the lore videos. Not necessarily the yearly cinematic, but some of the lore ones really flesh out the areas. Watch the Noxian one, (Noxus After Victory).
Yeah I've always said the amount of time they put into the lore will pay off im glad to see it coming into fruition
I'm just hoping their MMO will have an expansive skill tree with tons of options like old school WoW, (Like, minimum of 50-70 skill points) instead of every other MMO right now that's relegated to like 6-7 talent points with zero build flexibility.
say what you want about league, the lore behind it is so expansive and amazing cant wait to see where they take this
Dog shit game, but lore is pog. But hopefully they wont lean towards seraphine to much as she is a bug in the lore
@@lookatyourself1927 She will probably be used for musical events if she is added to the game wich would actually make sense unlike in the actual lore where she just exists
@@lookatyourself1927 just like the other comment said, Sera would actually be good in the game since it can lead to music events.
The hype is real but knowing the game is coming out 5-6 years in the future make me depressed
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@@jag764 genshin impact is basically an age of empires 2 clone tbh
another reason to keep going.
@@totem311 age of empires is basically me and the boys on the woods in 2005 clone tbh
@@jag764 nah, almost everything they are talking about the game on twitter makes me think that it will be a custom char model and no pay to win.
I never cared for LoL since I'm not a MOBA fan, so it's such a pleasant surprise to see how much worldbuilding and lore is actually behind it. Worldbuilding is such an integral part to immersion. In the end, fantasy is "science fiction", but the science refers to internal logic of events.
So many games throw in basic "fiction" without any human element or internal story, just orcs/elves/dwarves and hope it's enough. But it never is, it always feel hollow.
The lore sounds really awesome. Hopefully the devs continue to follow those 3 tenets as well, because this Riot MMO looks legit.
I love Riot's universe, the Card Game is awesome and I'm so hyped for the MMO 🖤
Also the already out RPG, rhythm game...
I stopped playing league years ago, but I heavily play Legends of Runeterra. It’s great to see all the art from the cards used here, and it’s how I learned about so much of the lore of Runeterra. I was naming every card from the art he used haha.
unexpected Necrit Asmongold crossover
I really love that all this does remind you of WoW, but on a smaller, less cluttered scale. Warcraft started out like this, with a well thought out foundation of lore, but after decades it was kind of all over the place with dozens of storylines that were built up and then abandoned for something else, making whole game mechanics obsolete etc. I really hope they are going to take their time with this.
"You need to have an Empire Strikes Back" . You should have been playing Asheron's Call back in 99/00 during the Shadow Wars. Giant spires appeared in the sky after months of lore buildup to what was coming. Entire cities wiped off the map. People's mule characters in town killed and rezzed in the ruins with all the loot dropped. Huge live events with NPCs coming to life being controlled by devs in real time live on the servers events. Each server having different results possible.
i love the lore in league and I hope that i can explore it in their mmo, idc if the game is p2p, Ill buy it just cus i wanna explore the world. At the same time, i wish the devs behind this success and less hardships making this happen cus i know its gnna be rough and the pressure from the community is high.
I feel like if there's anything that could actually be the WoW killer it could be Riot's MMO. The story is just so absolutely bonkers and well built that I feel the story could exceed what Blizzard has built with WoW extremely quickly. I really hope they end up making the MMO because I bet it'd be fantastic to play.
eh, WoW's universe is definetly better than riots with league, I wouldn't say leagues is "well built" at all... just small microstories and is way too scattered. Every MMO since WoW has been called the WoW killer and never has yk
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 i've read most LoL stories avaliable but havent gone all the way down the iceberg, and they genuinely have nothing on WoW lore, elderscrolls lore, Warframe lore, etc.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 League has bad lore even for a MOBA tbh, just a bunch of random (albiet good) stories but such a weak central core. Elder Scrolls and Warframe are MMOs in the genre and Warframe doesnt have older lore than league... just saying genre aside lorewise league is pretty weak
@@sergeantpaper2569 You haven't read any of the stories
@@chrishaven1489 I've read almost all of them, actually! It's not bad writing, just a handful of short stories that have rough connection at best:)
league of legends lore is suprisingly great for how non lore focused the actual game is. Can't wait for this.
I knew they will make something interesting but this over exceeds my expectations by far, I think this could be the real successor for wow, they have a good healthy mass on moba and looks they where hard working in silence to have a big hit on mmorpg. They are creating a similar enviroment like Blizzard on the 90's.
Considering we can expect to interact plenty with many of League's characters, I could see Kindred playing some role with the player character. At least when it comes to death and such. Though it'd be a rather odd agreement at the same time since the two don't exactly like anything that cheats death; namely the undead and those who manipulate time
Would be cool to be apart of the fist of shadows xD.
Oh yeah damn. When i die, I'll pick the wolf and hopefully i'll battle with him,😂
I think the forgotten isles have the most promise. You could allow for undead factions, attempting to reclaim leadership of the isle and have a raid to prevent Viego from controlling the dead. It could be a new zone filled with magics of the dead and ressurection.resurrection.. the isle of the blessed dark. New playable characters, New Spells, and creation of homunculi and phylactery golem, housing long dead blessed isle mages.
as a fan of the lore its so amazing to see new people finally getting into the lore
Asmon NEEDS to finish Arcane. Not only is it a fantastic animated series, It would really help to set the stage and gives a great perspective of the scope of the world.