Rythmik FVX12, RSL Speedwoofer 10s, and Emotiva RS11 Subwoofer Review, (Final Thoughts & Wrap-Up).
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Original Reviews of each subwoofer:
Rythmik FVX12: • Rythmik FVX12 Subwoofe...
Emotiva RS11: • Emotiva RS11 Subwoofer...
RSL 10S: • RSL Speedwoofer 10s Su...
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Source: Bluesound Node 2i
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(all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
DAC: Schiit Modius
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Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio Ref4
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RCA Cables: Analysis Plus Oval One
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Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment:
Fun Fact I did indeed pull my back after this video, no joke :/.
Damn sorry dude.... I know EXACTLY where you're coming from. Rest up.
Take it easy bro. I'm a furniture mover and I pinch a nerve at random times. It's not fun, but I just keep on moving and working through the pain. It lasts for a day then I'm good again for about 4-6 months. It feels like I pulled something when it initially happens and the pain shoots through my shoulder/back right through to my chest. The worst thing to do is sit in bed and hope for the pain to go away. Resting it only makes it worse. Pinched nerves are caused by knots and they can cause many different kinds of symptoms/effects with our bodies. A deep tissue massage therapist is what I need and possibly you if it is in fact you pinched a nerve that caused your pain. One thing I have never done or will never do, is go see is a chiropractor. Once you go, you will always have to go back and your body will never be the same. My boss is always throwing something out and has to see his chiropractor quite frequently. Not me. 🙂 Just thought I'd share my thoughts on that.
Hello, how am I between rel ht 1003 or rsl speed, which one would you recommend better?

@@dicmccoy I have a chiropractor, physical therapist, and a yoga coach and they're all rock solid. My chiropractor actually isn't a big fan of constant adjustments but with my back injury what happens is it swells up and my L5 locks into place so I literally can't move properly, his adjustments get it back to being able to move then my physical therapist and yoga girl help me stay mobile and strengthen the area to reduce the likelihood of it happening again. The yoga girl is a new addition and will most likely replace my physical therapist, she's really good at this kind of stuff.
@@victormanuelporrascenicero8402 depends on what you like and what your goals are. The RSL will have a lot more output, if you do any theater at all the RSL is a better option since it's ported but this is more of a situation of taste rather than performance as both are very good but sound very different.
Agree. The RSL sounds and should be much more expensive. Ridiculously impressed by how musical it is.!
It's wild because all they really did was design the subwoofer properly as in giving the 10" driver it's proper sized cabinet. Everyone else caves to marketing around this prices and forces a 12" into a smaller ported cabinet which drastically reduces the benefit of a ported design and instead gives a small ~60hz bump that makes noobs go "wow i can hear boom boom".
I agree that the Rythmik should come with better finish options. The black look of the Emotiva is quite nice.
Best reviews hands down
thank you bro!
underrated channel! I think the only thing holding you back is the name of your channel
I ran a poll to see what people thought about changing the name, 70% liked it and the 30% that didn't couldn't come up with anything better so as the saying goes it is what it is. I don't really care too much though, this channel is just for fun. If I think of a better name I'll change it, if not it's good enough for now.
Lmao w/your, “Some real ghetto shit” comment about your first sub. I was falling out. Right on bro! We do what we gotta do at the time. I am glad I found your channel. Enjoying your straightforward to the point presentation in a down-to-earth genuine manner. No BS w/a dash of funny BS! 👊🏼😎👍🏼
I was going back and forth in my head between the speed subwoofer and the Monolith M-210 v2... went with the Monolith and thank goodness I did. It is probably the best 10 inch subwoofer I've ever used. Like a fool, I lost the port plug it came with but fouyit a few days ago. There is a noticeable difference with the port plugged when precision is more important in the listening experience.
The M-210 V2 is $1000, much larger, and weighs 162 lbs. I don't think its fair to compare the two.
I like the rs11 also best of them
nice comparison and yup, it's about what compromises one can deal with
Man I haven't heard pyramid in yrs! my buddy in high-school back in early 90's had an escort. He removed the rear seat and had 2 pyramid 18's in it! the windshield would flex out it had so much bass! Been looking at the RS11 sub and I think I'm going to pick it up! The top controls are very cool!!! Great review!!!
I really enjoyed this video, thanks for all you do!
Thank you!
Dang. I had a pair of pyramid 15 inch subs in a big ole car audio sub box, which I used a car amp and a ac to DC to power it. But that was also years ago like Many years ago as well. Pyramid is still around for audio, you can buy some woofers off parts express. Funny you mentioned it. Pyramid was something I haven't heard in a while. Also thanks for reviewing the rsl speedwoofer 10s I just picked one up for about $320
I'm surprised they're still in business but I guess there is always a market for the ultra cheap.
Another great comparison/review. Your approach is a great public service. I like everything about the Emotiva & the Rythmik subs, and I’m all about SQ over SPL. I’m on a fixed income now and live in a small place. Budget/Value would lead me to RSL with thoughts of adding a second Speedwoofer
later when I can afford it. I prefer to run dual 10’s than a larger single. After your description, I’d love the Rythmik, but not feasible. Thanks again for these gear discussions. Loving your work. 👍🏼😎👊🏼
thank's man I appreciate that. RSL is about to release an updated version of the Speedwoofer so stay tuned, I'll be reviewing that as soon as I can :D
Can't you just sort of plug the port of any sub with fabric or whatever and make it sort of closed and improve the speed? Or can that in any way damage a driver that is not designt to be in a closed box?
kind of, if the sub is designed to work both ways like the emotiva RS11 then its okay otherwise you'll just have a large sealed box which is not ideal.
I had forgotten this but you reminded me when you mentioned it I also had Pyramid sub at that age! :D
Nice! The one I bought was $25 😆 Crazy to see they still sell them on Amazon now all these years later and for not much more, $34 lol
I love the tales of arise in the background and SMT 3 :D
Yes sir!!!!! I just finished Scarlet Nexus, still need to play Arise.
Hi! How do you think that the RSL speedwoofer 10s (second iteration soon to be released at $425) compares to the SVS SB1000? (not pro; which is $475 on Amazon)
I never heard the non pro version of the sb1000.
Another great video. Thanks!
Once I have the room for it, fvx12 will be in my room, and maybe two of them depending on room size lol
This comparison does make me curious about the Rythmik LV12F (too bad they don't make an FX12F or another higher quality small ported sub) due to it being so much smaller than the FVX12. But since the LV12F only has 1 port, I wouldn't want to plug it (might as well buy an F12 at that point). Makes me wonder how good the LV12F would be for music. With the FVX12, both ports open, do you feel the sound quality matches or surpasses the HT-1205? I heard you say the 1205 is a good middle ground between SQ & SPL... that's the camp I aim for & for me the HT-1205 has as much detail as I could ask for. I'm speculating the LV12F will surpass the Emotiva RS11 for 2-channel but I could be wrong.
I listen to the FVX12 with both ports open all the time. Yes it’s better than the HT-1205 in either configuration. It’s more on par against a pair of T9X. If you can fit the size and don’t mind the looks the FVX12 is extremely difficult to beat with respect to SQ and SPL. It’s a genuine best of both worlds performer with no compromises in either category. The only “compromise” is the size and obviously it’s not beautiful like a REL T9X is.
The FVX12 now comes in piano black. My music listening is most important, but I like the HT addition of the FVX12. Which would you choose between FVX12 and SVS SB-3000 with this in mind ?
those are two really different subwoofers, the SB3000 is a great all around compact solution but it can't compete with something as large as the FVX12. If you have the space the FVX12 was my product of the year for 2021 and still gets my highest recommendation. The SB3000 is great if the cell phone app is super important to you or you need that compact solution but it cannot match the FVX12 speed, articulation, transient response, or fidelity.
Lmao my 1st subwoofer was a pyramid 15 inch and one day I found a big square 📦 and I cut out the hole and placed it in it and hooked it up to my Pioneer receiver I had purchased at 14 years old from a Co worker who got it overseas that was incredible. The sub used to bounce up out of the box at high volume but it actually worked . Kinda lol
ahahahaha, yes, most excellent!!!! Isn't it shocking how easily we were satisfied? Like before youtube and reviews, etc... Just a mish mash of shit and we were happy :D I powered my Pyramid with an old Yamaha piece I bought from a crackhead for $35. At the time, it was the best I ever had!
@@NemoPropaganda hahaha. Some crackhead deals are incredible !! Lol
Liking the Bass tower
me too :D but my back didn't appreciate it lol
@@NemoPropaganda hopefully the views and likes will be worth it 😁
Have you demoed any of the Monolith subs. I have 2 of their 10” ported subs and was thinking of “upgrading” to the FVX12 but not to sure if it would be worth it.
monolith is like the maximum SPL for your dollar subwoofer, I'm sure it's good in that regard, I know they can pound but I am fairly confident there is no finer sounding ported subwoofer in the world than Rythmik. I understand how bold a statement that is and I do not make it lightly. I voted the the FVX12 subwoofer of the year for 2021 and I meant it.
FWIW, you can get painted white on the Rythmik for a $150 upcharge.
oh that's good to know! I hope they add painted black either gloss black or matte black :D
Just wanted to drop by and say thanks for the effort to get that stack, lol. I'm sorry you hurt yourself doing it.
Thank you dude!
Hi Nemo,
Have you heard Monolith M-10 V2? Do you think it would be more like Emotiva RS11 or the SVS subwoofer or REL HT1205? Would it be good in music, for detail? I lysine to 70% movies 30% music. My room D18” W15” H8” open concept. I love detailed sound, deep bass, integration. I have B&W 703 S2 speakers. What would you recommend for a subwoofer for me? PS. love your video. I watch all of them. Keep up the good work😊
Hi bro, thank you for the kind words, no I have not heard any monolith sub.
My room is roughly 27' by 20'. Without knowing the rest of the setup, do you think the S10 would have the umph for that size of a room if it is run LFE for movies, etc? I am currently using an ancient M&K V-125 which is very musical but lacks the strength to excite the room for movies. I would rather stick to a single sub but would consider a pair in the future if needed. The S10 just seems like such an insane value that it is hard to pass up. Very nice review, BTW. Straight talk and easy to understand.
Hey Marc, "enough bass" really is personal taste but I don't think a single RSL 10S will be adequate for movies in such a large room for most people but you won't know until you try, you can always add a second one down the road. If you really want to stick with a single sub I'd go for either the Emotiva or Rythmik in this video. The Rythmik is slightly cheaper and larger so that gets my vote such a large space.
I know it's an older design but I hope you're able to test out a GoldenEar ForceField 4 Subwoofer as I would be curious as to what you would think.
Hey Rocco, the fact that they don't list the frequency response roll off is a big turn off for me, what are they hiding? My guess is it's a -10db spec and in room. Also for that price and design I'd prefer the Aperion Bravus 10D for it's far more attractive looks.
@@NemoPropaganda Hello. I managed to find a review of the GoldenEar with the stated frequency response at ±3db at 27Hz (no room gain) which is similar to the Aperion. However, looks wise it's definitely the Aperion so thank you for the lead.
@@roccobruno8027 you got it brother :)
Nemo….help. I have a 20x20 great room in Florida. The subs have to white to blend with decor. It’s a 50/50 mix of movie and music. Is Rel and Rythmic my only choices?
It depends. If the music section really matters to you and you still want a powerful theater experience a pair of white FVX12 would be at the top of my list.
@@NemoPropaganda yeah, somehow I felt two F12SEs in white might do the trick until I watch your review on that sub. Seems like it’s a music only piece.
@@ekkojohn oh no, the F12SE pair can be a very competent theater subwoofer also. It's just so many theater customers want a crazy amount of bass rumble that the ported FVX12 is a safer recommendation :). Either pair will get the job done very nicely. If you are wanting a small sealed 12" the F12SE is one of the finest you can buy. Of course there are more high end pieces like the REL Carbon Special or S/812 if you have the pockets for it.
Thanks!
thank you Jude!
Would you say the fvx12 has more output down to 18hz with both ports or does the pb2000 have more down to 17hz? I just bought both, have the pb2000 and receiving the fvx12 tomorrow. Obviously going to find out for myself but I’m listening to bass lines like middle child by j cole and it goes so deep it shakes my bones. Will the rythmik do that with authority like this? I’m not sure what the hz are in the bass line but I want to like the rythmik more but I’m afraid the svs is better at low bass. I’ll find out tomorrow. Just want an opinion
The Rythmik 18hz is measured at a stricter -2dB so it actually extends lower between the two. But you should spend as much time with both of them as you can, at least 2 weeks total between the two, listen to each one for a few days before switching or at least a few hours. This will make the difference super obvious. While the SVS has more power the Rythmik is more efficient so don't worry about the wattage, just listen and you will decide with relative ease. Sorry I'm not telling you which is better since you have both coming I don't want to influence your opinion too much :D But plz lmk your thoughts later on and what you will discover is if you like SPL style or SQ style bass as that's the primary difference between the two.
I have received the Rythmik and I have to say I’m pretty impressed by it. I need to mess with all the different customization options it offers, which is a lot more compared to the svs. It overall sounds better and I like turning it up louder because the quality is better. It shakes my whole house with ease. It drops lower with ease. It has more authority at lower hz I think and it sounds amazing. Much flatter instead of kind of pulse-y feeling, if that makes sense? Haha I’m new to this. I’m more of a music person than movies like 95% music 5% movies other than maybe South Park. So I would definitely say it’s better for music. It’s quick and there’s no boomy overhang sound where the bass almost lingers. I need to keep breaking both in. Both are amazing subs but I have to say I’m more impressed by the look of the rythmik in matte black, the build quality, the sound quality, the customizations, overall it’s just a step up I think. That’s my rant. Thanks for all your help man! Maybe this info will help you help others. I plan on posting a short informational video of the two and my set up.
@@Ozzypants2020 for being new to this you've hit the nail on the head perfectly! The real magic of the FVX12 is that it has all the characteristics people like about sealed subs but still has the extension/authority/output of ported subs. It's a rare situation where there is no compromise and you simply get the best of both worlds. It's extremely unique in that regard. The PB2000 is an outstanding theater performer but I don't think you will find too many people recommending it for a 90% music system.
This comparison might seem somewhat strange but how does the Rythmik FVX12 compare with the F15HP and the F18 for combined Music/Gaming/HT duties? I know the price points are quite different, but I'm thinking about the kind of performance I can fit within a 21 inch cube. I've heard it said that the bigger servo subs aren't as quick and punchy as smaller subs, and was wondering if that was true in your experience as well?
I'm not exactly sure as I haven't heard those but larger drivers have heavier moving mass and while servo helps that it can't eliminate it, nothing can. I would ask Rythmik directly since they make all the subs you're curious about. They'll have a better understanding than anyone else.
@@NemoPropaganda Ah k, fair enough. But generally speaking, would your say that Rythmik subwoofers lack punch and dynamism compared to other brands?
@@jermainkoh mmmm, not exactly. This is a difficult question to answer so let me try my best here: So SVS has the most dynamics to me honestly, they're more the SPL brand and despite most people thinking dynamics are a big audiophile characteristic the SPL subwoofers are better at it, they have tons more reserve power and heavier drivers that just hit harder, the downside is they don't integrate as well nor disappear in the room as well. Then there are SQ brands like Rythmik, now that's not to say Rythmik can't deliver high SPL, they certainly can, in-fact Rythmik offers subwoofers much larger and capable of more SPL than most companies do however Rythmik is still an SQ company and SQ subwoofers integrate really well, sound like an extension of your speakers, have excellent base note distinction and so on, essentially they are more accurate. That high level of SQ can't coexist with crazy dynamics and aggressive slam since that's not accurate. At the end of the day none of this really matters. What matters is your taste, are you more an SPL customer or an SQ customer? And don't think just because you're an audiophile you're automatically an SQ customer lol. Many audiophiles are SPL customers. Personally I'm in the SQ camp all the way. If you've never heard a Rythmik sub my advice is just try it, they offer an in home trial. Most of the guys that have come over to my home and heard all my subwoofers have been most impressed by the F12, it's approach to bass is more inline with something you find in the uber high end speaker category like the $250k wilson alexandria XLS. It's more controlled, tight, comes from the background, etc... Everyone should experience it at least 1 time to have the data point and understand what SQ is all about.
@@NemoPropaganda - Fantastic explanation! I know exactly what you are describing after hearing a JL E110 despite being a dual REL T9i user myself. That "slam" and the forcefulness with which the E110 produces bass has its own charm. What was simply incredible was that in my friend's room, it was digging all the way down to 14hz at -3db extension (REW measurements). His Focal 826 towers sounded Mehhh though.
p.s.: As always, keep up the great work! FYI, you're known in my forum (hifivision) as the "subwoofer guy" 😂
@@darpanbhuyan1909 Hey Darpan, thank you for the kind words bro! I am happy to be known as the subwoofer guy, that puts a smile on my face :)
Do yourself a favour. Open baffle sub for music. Extremely natural sounding . Entry level subs at 250 ish I build one .. not the last word in frequency response 30hz -3db.
But sounding better than any other design. Regardless of price. It's just natural.
Hey NONE, so my beef with open baffle subs are the size :( correct me if I'm wrong buy all the ones I've seen are HUGE!!!
@@NemoPropaganda you can get a single 12 inch driver (servo) in an H frame design. The depth is so slim.
I have a design. H x 38cm W x 38cm D x30cm
My 15 inch is H x 40cm W x 40 and D x 30cm. The look and size not for everyone. I understand. Not my preference either. But the sound is amazing.
Pretty bad for movies. A $100 sub would out perform/enjoyment pretty much any open baffle design. But for music. I would put my sub up against. (Fill in a name here) and would not be phased.
@@none3143 I like a strong low end though, I'm not convinced I would be happy with one, hopefully one day I get to hear one so I can decide for myself :)
@@NemoPropaganda sb audience 15ob350 - finally moved my system to a larger room and got a decent amp with my OB sub. deep bass you say. :D happy to report you can get that with open baffle.
Thank you; finały someone who gives personal review of the speakers, being compared, making the review more real
PS I am in the process of setting up my system. Question: Would you rather buy 2 RSLs than 1 Emotiva RS11 for your system if you had money of RS11?
Thank you, in the advance, for your personal opinion on the issue that intrigues me.
My room dimensions: 11’x17’x9’
it depends on the rest of the system but I'd always rather have 1 nicer item vs 2 less nice items. A pair of speedwoofers would be awesome in any system that's around the $5k mark but if your system is like $5k plus the RS11 or FVX12 would make a lot more sense. The FVX12 is my favorite sub around this price.
A suggestion for subwoofer testing: VTT2 album by Vital Techtones.
not my style of music but thank you for the suggestion.
Awesome comparison Nemo, can't wait to see your review on the SB-1000 Pro and how it compares!
Thanks Drn! Just keep in mind the SB-1000 Pro is smaller than the RSL Speedwoofer, it's way smaller than most people realize so it's killer for the price and feature set but as far as sheer output the larger speedwoofer would have it beat and naturally it cannot compete with the much larger and more expensive Emotiva RS11 or Rythmik FVX12.
@@NemoPropaganda Oh absolutely bro, I love that it's smaller too! I don't need massive output, I'm looking for sound quality. I'll be honest it's either the 1000 pro or the Rel HT for me. The only thing left before I pull the trigger is your review and comparison. Apologies for the not so subtle hint over here ;)
@@drn93 if SQ is your primary concern just get the HT, the lighter driver that the HT-1205 uses is better suited to SQ, the heavier driver SVS uses is more suited for SPL duty. Also I'm guessing you're considering the equally priced HT-1003 which is a 10' so it's driver will be considerably lighter.
@@NemoPropaganda I figured as much thanks Nemo. Nonetheless can't wait for that review! Yep i'm looking at the HT-1003, will get one first and perhaps a second later. I could swing the 1205 too just for a bit more extension. Is this a good idea?
@@drn93 if its a music only system the 10 is cool but if you're 50/50 or theater mostly you'll always benefit from a larger subwoofer. Maybe email Adorama and see if they can swing you a deal on a pair of 1205's, I've heard they're somewhat flexible. Just be ready to order though since those offers may be limited time.
Ps Love your reviews👍👍👍
LMAO at the swap-meet dumpster sub!!!
Hello Nemo, hope you're doing great, any of these 3 vs RSL 12? Only for sound, what do you think?
The Emotiva is discontinued and the in my 12s video I talked about how it compares to the smaller 10s, have you seen that video?
@@NemoPropaganda Yes 😅
This video came out randomly and I asked the question on the fly. So inquiry cleared. ✌🏻
Thks for the comparison. How does the Rythmik L12 compare to the Emotiva RS11? Hope u can review subs from Starke sound
Hey whats up Gilbert. So the L12 is seriously awesome but the Emotiva is ported and costs double so a comparison doesn’t really make sense. I don’t have any interest in Starke nor will I be reviewing any of their offerings.
Great video brother! Next time you need a hand just let me know. Hope your back is better soon so you can stay on track with those workouts
Thanks! Will do! 😆
@@NemoPropaganda Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the Dual t9x! The high-level input is definitely intriguing and im curious how they stack up to the others you've heard in your room. Seems like they would be amazing for music but for music and home theater seems like you'd have to step up to the S/510 or higher model.
I hope your back is getting better
@@joshdekubber3631 mmm, I wouldn't say you'd need to step up to the S/510 for theater unless your room is larger (which yours is). The pair of T9X in my room is outright overkill, If I didn't have monoblock amps I would just be running a single T9X but you can't run single REL subs via highlevel if you have monoblock amps. It's one of those things like I heard it and I really started to understand wattage is not that big of a deal, the Rythmik L12 was another great example of that for me. It's no SB3000 in terms of maximum SPL but it's also smaller by a fair amount physically and looks even smaller visually due to the reduced height.
@@NemoPropaganda OH my God I'm so torn. Mind fuck for sure lol! I appreciate all your information so much brother! I'm in AZ. now dialing in one of my old systems and enjoying it but still tryin to figure out my end game system. Been reasurchin Focal Aria 984's for mains and shit. The deeper I dive the farther I get from a decision on anything. Thanks for always responding and helping me. You have so much valuable knowledge and experience.
BTW how do you like the high level input? I always cross my subs over super low like 40hz and just curious how those rels sound when let loose to go up into the higher hz?
👍👍👍👍👍/👍👍👍👍👍!
Cheers Nemo,, 🍻😎👍
So I have an approximate 6700ft³ space. Looking for bass that will exceed my expectations in this rather larger area. 50/50 music HT mix.
Question is would you go Rhythmic dual FV15HP2's or single FV18 or single FV25HP? I would go dual FV18's but they are so massive I can't find a good place for both unfortunately.
Okay so heres the thing my brother, everyone has a different idea of how much bass is enough and your room is pretty darn big. My room is not that big so I'm not the best person to ask. If I had to guess I'd suggest the dual FV15hp2 will give you the most output out of the options you listed. If you want to be extra sure shoot Rtyhmik an email and see what they suggest but I think they will say the same thing but it couldn't hurt to just double check since I'm not really a large room expert.
@@NemoPropaganda yes sir will do. I called them today but no answer. I'll email them and see what happens. They could be closed for Christmas.
I'm definitely leaving towards two smaller duals over one massive single. Will let you know what they recommend.
@@LichaelMewis lmk know what happens, I can't really imagine a single large sub being better but they're a little smarter than me so ya never know.
@@LichaelMewis we also have a free discord server if you want to hop in and get other peoples opinions: discord.gg/nemopropaganda
one quick question nemo, FVX12 vs PB2000 PRO, which would you pick? reply only if you listened to both :)
I've personally owned the PC-2000 but I've not had PB2000-pro model here in my room, only the SB. I have heard them in showrooms though that is a bit different. Either way they are two very different approaches to bass. You can watch my REL vs. SVS video to see the difference. ruclips.net/video/rEz03XkcslI/видео.html
@@NemoPropaganda sure will look into it. Thanks Bro. :)
Recommendation for movies then music?
Rythmik FVX12, if that's too big the Emotiva, if thats too big then the RSL :).
@@NemoPropaganda thanks 👍👌
Waiting in my RSL speedwoofer mk2 to arrive! Wonder if I should test it against the svs sb 1000 pro. Waf is huge and the svs sb is smaller!
The RSL is the more capable and will have a much stronger bottome end. There's no denying the smaller SB1000 Pro is much better looking and still has very respectable performance.
How do you like the speedwoofer?
@@LichaelMewis don't even think about it, based on your previous comment it is way too small for your room :)
Love your channel. Alright guys my PSA S1812 is for sale, replace with 2 RSL 12s or Rythmik LV12 or a single Rythmik FVX15? Trying to stay close to $1600. Used it for mixed HT and music in the family room which is fairly large
Just curious, why are you ditching your 18"? Is there something you don't like about it or something else you want from getting a different sub?
@@NemoPropaganda Hi, I am looking for something more musical. Kinda just want to try something new also. Dual RSL 12s just arrived so I'm hoping for the best.
@@DarrellDucharme wow, you're going hard in the paint, enjoy! If you're in the free discord please post some pics of the setup, links are in the description of all my newer vids!
@@NemoPropaganda yes sir I am in the discord. Will post pics
Would you do 2 Speedwoofers insteat of 1 of the other?
Personally I'd rather have 1 higher grade item vs 2 lower grade items but many people would disagree with me and suggest 2 subwoofers over 1 better one.
I’m fairly sold on Rhythmik, given my research so far. However, I’m trying to figure out which model for mixed usage 🤔 Their website recommends something from their 15” series for mixed usage. Far as aesthetics goes, Salk offers a 12”, *wood veneer*, Rhythmik for $2K. So, lots to sort, but I’m pretty sure of the brand. Lastly, I care about size, but I don’t see a way around it, if mixed usage is the primary goal.
Plenty of people run smaller subs for mixed systems, it just comes down to how much bass you want, how loud you listen, and how big your room is. I think that's what you need to establish first. A pair of E15hp2 in piano black aren't too large, will look amazing in most rooms, and certainly should get the job done for most people. But there are those that will be happy with a pair of the smaller F12 and still those who will only be happy with a pair of G25 or F18. Personally I'm with you, I want the smallest sub that will satisfy my needs. I don't like the way a large sub looks in my room. If you want more input join our free discord so you can share your room size & listening habits with us along with some pictures of the room. From there we should be able to help you figure out what your needs are and which size should get the job done.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks. I have a NAD T778 AVR. My speakers: Peach-tree D5’s (5” Poly + 1” silk tweeter) + Focal Chora center channel (6.5” fibre + 1” aluminium tweeter). My room is open concept, so the LR, DR & kitchen are combined. The immediate listening space (LR) is 16’ x 16’ x 12’ (H). All considered, I’ve narrowed the selection down to the FVX12 (gloss black @ $1300). Aesthetically speaking, Salk offers the F12 in wood veneer ($2K). Oh well, hopefully my deliberation will help others.
@@emailkenny the fvx12 is one of my favorite subwoofers ever if that helps at all :)
what is the name of those White speakers?, they look so awesome 👍🏻
Buchardt S400 MK2
nice word work!
thank you!
Great video! I am currently looking to change out my subs, and am seriously looking at Rythmik. Specifically 2 - E22's. Dual 12's. Has anyone had experience with the E22? I currently have SVS, SB4000, and a SB3000. I am unsure if the change will make a difference.
I had the more affordable L22 for awhile and it was rather monstrous. I'm fairly confident a pair of dual 12" subs like the E22 will outperform nearly any other pair of dual single 13" drivers. There is considerably more surface area on the driver and the cabinet is much larger. Bass delivery of each brand is very different however so that will be a matter of personal taste. SVS has a very aggressive and strong initial attack. Rythmik is one of the champions of integration with extremely good extension and midbass articulation (a rare combination in subwoofers) and the bass delivery is more like it's coming from an ink black back ground.
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks! I figured the E22's would be great! I have another option, I am hopefully able to trade back the SVS SB4000 and get 2 new SB3000's for a total of 3. Less $$ than the Rythmik's. In Canada the E22's price is up there, for dual's it's over $4K with shipping duty, taxes. It is a tough call.
@@Johnnytrades101 maybe I can help make the decision easier: If you like what you already have and just wish you had more of it then doing the 3 SB-3000 setup is the logical choice. If you wish you had something different then the E22 pair is the logical choice. Hope this helps.
@@NemoPropaganda Truthfully, I have never had this much trouble making a decision. Bass is so important. I have some Legacy Classic HD speakers coming real soon, plus I am moving to a new house at the end of the month. New room, so maybe I should just hold off a bit with the new subs and see how it sounds. That is probably the smart thing to do.... Your honest description and evaluation of the Rythmik subs has really sold me on their build and sound quality, very well done! Thanks again for your help, Cheers!!
@@Johnnytrades101 no problem dude, sometimes it's good to stop and just walk away for awhile, like leave it alone and just enjoy your speakers in your new room for like a month or something :) When buying becomes stressful we gotta step back, because buying is supposed to be fun :D
Great video Nemo. I loved it! Now hurry up and get your hands on a pair of JL E112's from a dealer. That's what I have my eyes set on next or the 10's. I'm wishing upon a star that JL will eventually come out with a v2 version where it has an app. That would be awesome.
Another sub to look at that is from the province I live in here in Canada is Funk Audio. They are big 18" drivers but the cabinet have beautiful finishes on them. I wish I had the chance to go for a tour of their plant last year when I was in the area on a work trip.
Yes please I'd love to see Nemo review a pair of E112s also!
Hey guys, I want to try the E112 also but I tried, JL audio said they're doing their best to focus on staying in stock and don't have any units available for review and their prices on the second hand market are too high, a local seller has one for $1900, I offered him $1200 and he declined stating that his price was firm.
@@NemoPropaganda Well that blows. Do you have any contact with Gene @ Audioholics. He might have a line with a dealer that can help out. JL needs more love and only gets hate on the forums because of its price by people who've never listened to one.
@@NemoPropaganda Do you think dual E112's could be twice as good as dual SB 3000's in a large room for music and HT 50/50? Everything considered
@@joshdekubber3631 Twice as good is too hard to quantify but if you're asking will it have twice as much bass the answer is no but the E112 is better. JL Audio is a company that makes their own subwoofer drivers and substantial ones at that. The E112 driver is nothing short of breathtaking, google it if you have a moment. It makes most drivers look like toys by comparison. The E112 has significantly more maximum excursion, more wattage, and is double the price of the SB3000. While the SB3000's 13" driver is 17.4% larger CEA data shows from 12.5hz to 40hz the E112 has substantially more output than the SB3000 (and for the money it should), at 50hz and above the SB3000 larger driver looks to take the advantage and plays louder. If budget is not a concern I think most people would take the E112 pair. It's like shopping for a Ford Mustang GT and a base model Porsche 911. Both cars are great sports cars but if you can afford the 911, you'd be much happier with that :). Generally speaking I believe if both companies are reputable the more expensive product is usually going to be better.
How does the Speedwoofer compare to the Rythmik L12? Im sure I will be very happy with the L12 but was just wondering:) Thank you
Hey bro, L12 is a strong step up from the RSL. The L12 cannot be beat at it's price.
@@NemoPropaganda Awesome!!Thanks again😎🙌
@@edwinsprojects7039 no worries bro, trust me, unless you're trying to spend a lot more money you don't need to research subwoofers anymore, your quest is over :D
@@NemoPropaganda I'm pumped Man:) I'm getting mine in tomorrow. I have an Arcam SA20 and a pair of Polk Audio Lsim703's and a pair of Klipsch Rp600m's. All I was missing is the Sub. Cant wait:)
Get 2 10s, which is still cheaper than the other two, then be happy! :-)
I would still take 1 FVX12 :D but that's just me, I would always rather to have 1 better item than 2 lesser items.
Brother Nemo. Could you reveiw the Hsu Vtf 2mk5 or the Vtf 3mk5. They fall right in there Price, Valve and Performance wise. $549 or $800
Hey Calvin, I don't think a ported HSU can compete with these in terms of transients for music and will instead be better suited to theater use.
@@NemoPropaganda
Ah, then how about a HSU ULS-15 MK2?
@@Chuck-- I don't know, Hsu is not interested in working with me.
strange that theres 0 videos on youtube showing the speedwoofer 12s in action
like showing cone excursion? I tried to but by the time the cone is really moving its way too loud for my room.
@@NemoPropaganda lol I assumed it was because the 12s is at that price point where average joes can/can’t afford it and it’s quite new
@@itzjustkris7964 I dunno, all I can answer is for myself. I guess I could have worn ear plugs and filmed some cone movement, maybe next time. The thing is a beast!
@@NemoPropaganda its not so much cone movement but i always like to see those quick one minute ish videos of random people just playing music on subs and walking around their house
@@itzjustkris7964 oh I see, I don't make vids like that myself, i focus on the long form review, maybe in the future.
Why it's gotta be ghetto you did something creative and called it ghetto your passion for music made you do it I have a similar story I pulled a rotted out speaker from the trash no cone no rubber extension and I piece it together using paper I basically built it back looking like Frankenstein monster I had and amp and an equalizer I used one channel to run the sub and the other to run the main I filtered or high frequencies on the side of the amp running the sub using the eq and that was my setup sweet sounding to my ears too was it ghetto hell frigging no
I appreciate you saying that but my first system was ghetto, it sounded good but it was hobbled together broken used parts. Some would say it's crafty and it certainly was. I enjoyed the hell out of it for sure though!
Can you plug the RSL for 2 channel music?
you can plug any vented subwoofer i suppose but it does not come with any port plug and I don't feel it needs one.
@@NemoPropaganda Nice thanks. I just purchased my first hi-fi set up. SVS Prime center and L&R SVS Prime bookshelves, RSL sub, and Denon s960h. Picking up this weekend, I hope it sounds good 😄
@@roybatty- I think you'll be happy with the level of clarity and bass that combo will bring to the table. Enjoy! Feel free to join the free discord and post up pics if you want, link is in the description of all my newer vids.
@@NemoPropaganda Sup man? I ended up ditching the center channel and the Denon receiver and went for a 2.1 set up. Prime bookshelves, RSL Speedwoofer II and a Sonos Amp. I'm really liking the combo of power and form factor. It's a 50/50 movie/music set up and it kicks butt in my small room. Really impressed by the sonos Amp with 125watts@8ohms and the HDMI port so I can use my smart TV as the main hub. Easily powers the bookshelves and it integrated really nicely with the RSL after dialing everything in. The RSL has to be restrained though because it will tear the plaster off my walls 🤣.... thanks again for the review, helped me chose.
@@roybatty- hell yeah brother, glad its all working out, I use 2.1 for my TV setup also :)
Please test Rythmik F15HP vs FVX 12
Sorry bro FV15HP is over 100lbs, that is over the weight limit of gear I like to review.
One hateful and angry person who bought a different brand sub, just had to thumb down, lmfao! 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Honestly sometimes I wish I could meet all the people that leave thumbs down lol 99% of them are idiots that want sound demos lol
Unfortunately Pyramid still makes 💩 Why anyone buys them vs say Taramps I just do not know. If I bought one it would be to hide something better such as a SALT amp. It's just not so likely to attract the wrong attention...
yeah, theres tons of really good cheap stuff these days, no need to go for pyramid lol. I like Soundqubed a lot for affrodable car audio.
Looks like you review subs for the bodybuilding 🤣 sorry about your back, you need more training 😜
bro I'm trying lol, I have a squat rack in my spare bedroom and I work out a lot actually it's just that my back has the arch of a pornstar so it's just under more load from having such a massive arch lol