How Expert Machinist Make Pinion Gear With Iron Round Bar
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- How Expert Machinist Make Pinion Gear With Iron Round Bar
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9:47 fail, he forgot to drop the part on the floor for the next operation.
I've seen drop forged parts, but drop machined is a new one
Drop peening...
I'm gonna start throwing my new parts straight on the floor from now on. I hope I impress everyone in my shop with my new skill
Grinding a tool with chipbreaker is important swarf is potentially dangerous for the machinist and potentially ruin a tool ..live centre would also go a long way.If one of my apprentices had chucked precision freshly machined component on the floor he might need to see protoligist.
Свеже обточенную деталь обязательно надо кинуть об пол. Иначе ничего работать не будет. Пакистанская мудрость.
Снял внутреннее напряжение 😁
@@proficnc3497 круто на русском, по сути видно в ремонт деталь с поеденным зубом сыросятина
Видите как функционально Он Тестирует Качество (ОТК)
Это ОТК. Если выдержало падение - значит годное!
This shop must have only the best precision concrete, gives that extra fine touch to the parts. Bravo.
Its the deburring station. Throw it on the concrete and roll it around to break all edges.
Also, this dude has very accurate eye. Shaft was not straight by 0.001mm. So, he straightened it.
Yep, all the expert machinists I've ever know throw their precisely machined parts on the floor. It causes them to become work hardened.
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I know! Ive been running my machining biz since 1983 and that made me feel ill 😐
I mean. If it works right?? The end product looks amazing
He grabbed it and then realize that thing is HOT...
That made me laugh too! WTF!? I machined parts most of my life. Mostly in ceramic so yeah, we were not dropping anything. It's because it's hot I'm assuming. It looks like they're using mild steel for gears.
These are hacks not experts. I can't believe they are throwing parts on cement like that. They either don't know how or don't have the ability to measure pitch diameter on helical gears. These gears won't last long either; gears need to be rough cut, hardened, then ground to their finished dimensions. It's also a good idea to print gears in an assembly to verify proper alignment.
Be curious to find out how long it actually lasted...
“I saw this guy on RUclips do this, looks really easy”
The concrete is there surface plate
Another RUclips Warrior!
Good enough
These guys are professionals, both in the foundry and the machine shop. They are welcome to come and work in Holland.
Ahh yes, the most important step in any Pakistan machining is toss the parts on the floor! 14:30
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I love the rough eyeballing with vernier calipers and also the happy little string chip as well as stopping the lathe with tool still engaged in the cut :D :D
You mean the super long strings?
used his deburring sandal to remove them and all
Would love to see Kurtis CEE carefully machine a part then chuck it on the ground and kick it around a bit!
I'm assuming he drops it to check if the steel is quality after the initial stock removal
Drop forged it. Lol!
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great work, and very satisfying results
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@@scottvincent7666 🤣🤣
The swiftly wipes it down with a rag as if that little bit of oil residue is an issue compared to the big ass dents in the part from throwing it on the ground from 5 feet
A completely standard bit of machining, which any competent machinist can do. We used to have 1000's of them in the Uk until our government decided we didn't need to make things anymore. The complete lack of precision measuring tools is amazing, and those gears will need to be hardened and tempered and then finish grinding before use, otherwise, it is complete crap.
Так и есть. Поработаем малость и новую изготовят.
Nah man it's DROP Forged if u know what I mean...😂😅
That is hilarious, I'm gonna steal it.
yea i relly hope they harden it and temper it, if not i give it 5 minits then they are back in the shop for a new one
As a machinist I must say, this sh*t is painful to watch. The machines are as abused as the people using them, the material is mild steel, concentricity is about ten thou TIR and that tooth profile is BULLSHIT. When the center to center dimensions weren't right he just put that piece of crap back in and fed the cutter further in...I wouldn't pay ten cents for it...it's just going to kill its mate. Maybe he made that too...
There is definitely something wrong with that gear. I can not count the exact number of teeth but there are surely more than 17 so teeth ends must not be that sharp (gears with less than 17 teeth must be corrected in order to avoid undercutting). They made the wrong pitch diameter so he simply did another pass to "fit it" and ruined the gear by undercutting the teeth. Not to mention the throwing the finished piece on the floor....
Ya I noticed problems right away, I make batteries and I see the same shit with foreign battery makers. Good USA made stuff is rarer and rarer.
Hey! I'm a machinist, watch me throw this new part on the floor. Troll level = genius
Hi, I just machined this bar stock to put on the gear hob, let me chuck it on the floor. Hi, I just cut the teeth on this part, let me chuck it on the ground. I just don't understand why.
And they have nuclear weapons, what could go wrong.
@@riharikaa809 conflating issues help no one, though..
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My thoughts, and i was initially amazed that no hammer was involved.
@@LakshmananLM But WHY do they throw good stuff on the floor ??
I must have missed the “throw it to the floor” bit in metal shop? 😧
ruclips.net/video/Ak9jdNNet6c/видео.html Check it out at this point. Yes, it's definitely called "work hardening" 🤣🤣🤣
As usual, substandard products... And why do they throw everything to the ground?
at 9.40 I think he snaps the tip off the parting tool, having initially widened the groove by moving it sideways when cutting.
Expert for throwing parts.
They must have terrible accidents, the sandals, swarf, over extended machining the list goes on but they seem to get there and has been said below how long the parts will last. I recall going back 50 years when the UK was giving up Engineering all the kit that got us through the second world war was shipped out to India in ship loads and it's got them to where they are today and tomorrow they will eventually get to where we are today so respect there. Also respect to our fathers who made that kit and it's still running.
Who is your mother dear friend
Dear this video is not related to India you must conform County or origin before post
@@shanker218 Well i also call these indian because i dont give a shit what this really is, looks India to me, India it is
@@shanker218 I have seen the same thing in India too!
Europeans are from India/Pakistan originally.
The Japanese can only wish they could turn out gears as good as these fellows in Pakistan do!
Oh I do so love to see freshly made parts thrown on the floor like garbage!
They throw it on the floors is part of tradition
I'm waiting for the video called: "How expert mechanist cleans his shop with a brush".
Point to be noted
Amazing idea katropa
Very nice and informative....
Great quality work Ahmad.
Pakistani PEOPLE VERY TALENTED👌👌L❤️VE FROM INDIA🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳💕💕😘😘😍😍
Примерка шестеренок это шедевр !!
Congratulations on having the only three jaw chuck in all of Pakistan! Now how about live centers? BTW, are they Munchkins, Ewoks or Alvin and the Chipmunks?
They’re Jawas!! That’s planet Tatooine.
Also one of the few shops to have a mill. All of the other videos I've seen have been lathes and maybe a drill press. The real shocker was the gear hob. I saw a video where they "repaired" a rear end pinion gear by welding it up and hand grinding the teeth.
Good sharing ☺️🙏
Как швырнет деталь когда со станка токарного снял. Я нахожусь, наверное, за 6 тысяч километров от сего места, но мне так жалко заготовки.
These guys have some skills would never buy nothing from them.
If I ever hitted precision made parts on the floor, my instructor would have done it with my face…
great work, and very satisfying results
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A PEÇA QUE JOGARAM NO CHAO .E A VELHA COM OS DENTES QUEBRADOS
Maestros de la torneria,lo hacen parecer fácil! !!Los felicito!!
Those string chips are giving me flashbacks. I got 23 stitches in my left arm and cut all the tendons early one Monday morning in 1991 from a scene like that.
The very reason to avoid "made in India products "
Thats not indian product my friend
The whole secret is in droping it at that specific angle. That is supposed to increase its life full 3 minutes. People take eons to learn that secret.
It's amazing the difference between the work environments in this country and the developed countries. The dirty, unorganized shops are just shocking to me.
love the vertical shaft in the mill , secured by about 1 inch of purchase in the vise. that was risky
What do you mean? he periodically braced it with his hand!
1" seems awful generous. 😖
i know! with 2 points of contact, how about a V block or something?!
أحسنتم صنعا👍👍👍👌👌🌹🌷،
فتح الله عليكم ، رائعون بحق.
I have watched several of these videos and it just makes me think that if something were to happen that threw society back 100 years, it is these countries that would thrive and the so called advanced societies we have have now would be completely lost.
Great work.
Thank you for sharing the skills of these hard working people.👍
Why are you throwing that on the floor? ;-(
I would never understand how the mind of this people works. They're extremely skillful at what they do, but their lack of safety gear and measures is baffling. Also they're utter reckless in the way they make stuff, like this guy throwing the machined part to the floor! Almost gave me a heart attack!
I beg to differ, the workmanship is nebulous at best, safety issues have zero impact on item quality, the part produced is marginal.
Master & Quality Workmanship.Thank you.
Normally throw your helical pinion gears on the floor?What is it master or quality I must have missed that part.
Scary scary engineering
The drops were measured precisely 👍
9:34 Here's how an expert breaks his knife.
Yes guys, the health and safety is gravely ignored in Pakistan.
I have actually seen a live accident 15yrs ago in a construction area, purchasing stuff from a shop across the road with my uncle.
The 50+yr old worker was giving directions to a tractor and trolley driver fully loaded with coarse aggregate and was standing between a brick wall and the rear of the tractor. The tractor got a bit stuck and the guy pushed the accelerator which suddenly reversed the tractor more than it needed to. The guy behind had no time to react and was pinched between the wall and a small corner of the trolley/trailer. All of us ran to help but there was nothing we could do.
I was 13 still remember everything.
The mentality is get the job done as easily/quickly as possible, not as safely/efficiently as possible.
If we want to chuck a round bar on a mill it is easier to install a lathe chuck on the mill so it is rigid and secure not just holding this bar from only two points ,. thank you youtube
6:00 I made a precision work, now a will just drop this in the floor...
8:46 AGAIN!!!
you guys are perfect
Lindo taller ,lleno de maquinas de calidad, pero ¿Porque tiran las piezas recién mecanizadas al piso? 🤣🤣🤣
great work, and very satisfying results
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If I cut my gear and threw it on the floor I be fired on the spot!It tells you something about people that work there,Bunch of Hacks who don’t care about quality or there jobs.How dare they think there machinists!
I'm usually forgiving of these jobbing shops, but wow...
Saluran ini sangat menginspirasi dan mengedukasi.🙏
12:39 подстучал цанговый патрон, чтоб не было биения на фрезе.
These "experts" think making something that LOOKS sort of like the thing is making the thing itself.
Nice work, but how long will it last? The material seems to be quite soft, when I see the chips breaking. No hardening after all?
из сырого железа? на пару часов работы редуктора(((
Более менее адекватная мастерская, ну почему то и тут заготовку кидают на бетонный пол 😭
Интересно как угол наклона винтовой канавки высчитали?
И как долго будет работать сырой вал шестерня? Или потом предстоит термообработка и шлифовка посадочных? Хотя я в этом сомневаюсь.
Видел я термообработку по-пакистански. Сидит мужик с горелкой, и зубья на шестерне отжигает). Цвета побежалости при такой "термообработке" красивые, жаль только толку от нее нет.
Trial and error.
Технология изготовления
Кидают на пол потому что горячая. Она железная, нихрена ей не будет))) Угол наклона определили по ведомой шестерне, очевидно же. Любой нормальный фрезеровщик или зуборезчик умеет расчитывать это все, на это существуют стандарты, справочники. Либо уже на опыте знает. Термообработка и шлифовка будет 100%, иначе вся работа бесполезна.
@@Quark15616 Расскажите пожалуйста мне как транспортиром померить угол канавки? Чтобы при этом не ошибиться на градус другой,каких либо единых стандартов нет.
Книжку видели с таблицами подбора гитары? Триста страниц одних цифр.
А то человек первый раз деталь из станка вынимает,взял бы тряпочку)
Хотя с чего бы ей быть сильно горячей,резалось с СОЖ.
Забить зуб ударом о бетон как нефиг делать,но на такие мелочи восточные мастера внимания не обращают .
Никто не будет заниматься зубошлифованием,не порите чушь.
Да и посадки там шлифовать не принято .
И да,зуборез у меня есть)знаю о чём говорю.
Didn’t even case harden. Never gonna last any way.
Культура производства, как всегда, на высоте. А в гарантийном отделе, наверное, сидят моджахеды с автоматами. Ничем иным объяснить то, что эти ребята клеят бирку на деталь без термообработки я не могу.
Maybe they have comeuppance with a different way to heat the metal, throw it on the ground!
Бля, моджахеды ))
думаю магазин прецизионных измерительных инструментов не пользуется популярностью в их краях
Термообработка не нужна. Деталь закалилась когда её два раза шмякнули об пол в процессе изготовления.
Да у них там ваше треш творитбся там по любому раз в неделю кого нить на шпиндель наматывает
If they treat the the machined parts this poorly with the camera going, just think of the horror show happening the other 99.99% of the time.
I cringed every time they dropped that piece.
BUt, on the other hand, they will be building space shuttles in about 75 years............
Incredible. Like my shop, home made.
Guy making tea in the background! !!
Love his air gun.😂
Throw it on the floor a few more times to harden the metal. /s
Looks like mild steel. No heat treatment, no finish grinding, eye ball measurements. I don't think that's going to last very long.
Ну хоть показали вначале результат такой работы)
я думаю они так это и поставят без закалки,иначе без работы останутся.
Why are they purposefully dropping a precision helical gear?! You don't see Pratt & Whitney workers dropping precision pieces on cement floors, specially if it's going into any kind of vehicle. I mean, I would've respected those guys more if they screamed, "HOT! HOT! HOT!" Like little girls but not no-oo, they dropped it like they anticipated losing a game of hot potato.
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Why would anyone machine a part like that and repeatedly throw it on the ground? What about heat treating the part? 😳😳😳
Don't have to heat treat it if you run the lathe without coolant.
Apparently,throwing it on the floor work hardens the teeth😂😂
It is what they call hardening by deformation 😂
3:33 parting off between centers? lol Bad idea kids. He broke his cutter, damaged the end of the part , damaged the surface in the 3 jaw and probably the 3 jaw itself.
11:35 зажал вал за посадку подшипника, чтоб лучше был натяг.
*STOP THROWING THOSE MACHINED PARTS ON THE CONCRETE FLOOR GODDAMMIT*
I like how they throw the pice on the ground now and then to keep the dirtgods happy
Ian totally agree grind a chip breaker in
Трэш этой работы в том, что один мужик на всех станках все делает!
На одном малоизвестном приборе полуляхов не хватит🤭🤪
Everyone complaining about their work lol.. I dont see any fancy ass computers or CAD bs yet they made awesome gears manually..
I make gears every day without computers and this is straight up garbage. He hasn't even got the tooth profile correct.
Lame excuse
its amazing that this third world has been given our old machines.
Why isn't he breaking chips?
It's coming off like hot purple spaghetti.
no coolant and low feed rate/ shallow depth of cut. He's using a very sketchy lathe; I bet the spindle bearings are shot. It sucks but with a low rigidity setup with no coolant that's what you get. He's also hand grinding his tools, he may be able to get chips with a negative rake but I doubt they would be figure 9's.
The guy doesn't have a compressor air gun, he basically has a blow gun end piece to blow away metal shavings, he's gonna run out of air by midday, that he's going to pass out, hitting his face onto the helical splines, before hitting the floor.
I just began learning to use my home lathe & mill and so far everything I've been told NOT to do these guys are doing. I've watched at least 15 of these videos & I haven't seen a dial indicator yet. Not even when using a 4 jaw chuck What's a 100 thousandth between friends anyway! 🤣
Amaxing
8:46 when your boss tells you to hurry up the truck is on its way
Это фишка ихняя на землю деталь бросать!
Ну да, горячую деталь только со станка аккуратно не положить
I noticed someone talking about how the parts need to ba hardened. Right now when you go to buy parts for your car, they look pretty much right and the fit. The problem is they aren’t hardened and the don’t last but for a few hours and might even destroy what you are working on. Why and how does government control what is produced. These machines and people who do the work are everywhere. Maybe it’s time instead of waiting for work these shops just start producing what is needed and do it right and business will take off.
What a great work. Congrats.
Que tratamiento de endurecimiento la hacen
why is he throwing eveything on the ground?
is that a part of machinery?
10:02 когда шпоночный паз делал, там вал лежал такой же с отломанным хвостовиком.Это как?When the keyway was made, there was also a shaft with a broken shank.How is that?
Я видел как с легкостью отрывает хвостовики на редукторах грузовиков, сворачивает карданный вал, слизывает шестерни, ломает полуоси. Заклинило на ходу под грузом - и привет.
@@Quark15616 в одном видео мост порвало, на нем вытенвло фермы т.к закалку и отпуск неделали видно, а рессоры в а..е от увиденного стоит с доп.пластинами над ней ещё одна т.е рессоранадрессорой
@@dimakein537 Подрессорники, чтобы увеличить грузоподьемность. Обычное дело.
That's how cheese grade gears are made, in the standard world they are made from hardened steel.
Love Pakistani engggggggnnnnnirrrrrrrr
Токарная работа на отлично! А вот как эти детали проходят закалку???!!! Я вот не верю, что это всё сразу ставится на рабочий механизм!!!!
Нихуя ты токарь, меня бы шеф за такое отлично с работы выгнал
Да вот мне непедсиавляется куда? Устанавливают
what do you call the process of taking your machined part out of the lathe and throwing it on the concrete floor LOL
Зачем так кидать изделие на асфальт??? А потом сам смотрит и проверяет на наличие заломов... 🤦♂️
У них это в техпроцессе. Сделал: хуйни об пол))
No coolant on lathe?
I suppose that was only necessary before modern tooling?!