This machine is a Webster & Bennett, as an apprentice I worked on an almost Identical machine for 18 months, 5 days a week + saturday mornings...on rings of steel that weighed 1- 1/4 cwt. I still remember the smell & noise over 60 years later.
To me it gives me anxiety seeing those terrible cutters and the long stringy swarf. Oh and the open toed shoes. I wanted to see how they indexed the gear cutting when they flipped it over so the teeth on each side lineup. This is relaxing to me ruclips.net/video/u_PFOQSyKBE/видео.html
I thought that my job working in a restaurant/bar was really hard, but watching you fine gentleman, do your work you have made me realise my job is nothing but easy compared to yours. You guys work so hard and hand have done an excellent job. Congratulations well done on your hard work and greetings from India.
I love watching the old VTL (vertical turning lathe) make such huge chips. Those old W&B’s (Webster and Bennet) could really hog out the material so fast. Watching this is like a time machine back in the 20’s through the 50’s. Those old machines keep working after thousands of hours of use.
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Good old Webster and Bennett machine. I'd say these guys are pretty skilled. It's not what you've got its what you do with it (as the actress said to the arch bishop!). Loved the way the guy marked it out with chalk, I remember doing similar when machining castings years ago. Putting it on the gear hobber and supporting the base with jacks made of nuts and bolts (been there, done that), using old components as clamping washers....Yes these guys know what they are doing alright. Where there's a will is a way. Goodness knows what these gears sound like when running, but these guys are very good at getting by and making the best of what they have available.
In my Hometown 5 mins away in Duisburg (Germany), we have a Company making Industrial Gears, this size. The steps are pretty much the same. The machinery is like "Good old green and Heavy Duty", German Mechanics and Machinists known very well. Jobbed there as a Teenager a few Weeks.
Now we know where all the old, heavy machinery went to from North America and Europe. These workers are amazing. I am also sure that when the industrial revolution first started in North America and Europe, safety was not a major concern of the owners towards their workers. Hopefully, these places will eventually progress as we did.
safety apparatus comes with lots of money. and we all know how North America and Europe got the money...stealing whole continents and its resources, enslaving people, wars, bullying other countries ect.
The Industrial Revolution started in the North and Midlands of Gt Britain where those Webster and Bennet boring machines were made almost a hundred years ago.
safety third. All taxation is theft...so its banned. Devalued money and Currency backed by nothing is the reason for all wars so punishable by death. Honest trade among friendship. Article 1 Section 10
That ribbon swarf made my nuts tighten up , as an apprentice saw an older tradesman get slashed across the back of his legs on an identical borer, it came out under the job between the jaws like a demented whipper snipper
Thank you for not speeding up the video. It’s hard to find industrial videos from developing countries that aren’t sped up 50% with the workers sounding like chipmunks.
@@crispindry2815 They are Artisans they are using their Skills to make an object that did not exist before, from a painting to music to machine parts it's the same principle. Using your skills to make something you put your mind and soul in to.
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I visited a large gear turning shop in Sheffield about 10 years ago, which had several large horizontal lathes and milling stations for this kind of work. More sophisticated equipment in the main with CNC on some stations. It was fascinating. We wanted a replacement part made for an indexing unit used on our Bridgeport Mill. Once Sheffield was full of traditional places like this making and fixing parts for big machines, but it's harder to find them now. So many of the good machines were exported or scrapped when they closed down.
Yep, I dont know what is "smarter than others". This all looks like very old technology from 18th century. The guy welding without a mask is not good. I give them credit for being hard workers. The bosses are exploiting most of these people.
@@hydraulichands He was being sarcastic. I'm tipping the two gears are a long way out of alignment "It looks good so it must be right, engineering and measurement doesn't matter"
I agree. I love to see the end product doing what it's designed for. This gear isn't finished yet either, I'm sure it must be polished and hardened because this is not particularly hard steel.
right, it's just a standalone wheel right now, not linked to anything with the friction loss on those bearings, this can't be for a flywheel, what's it for I wonder
I was a Toolmaker in the united states, never had the pleasure of making gears. When the gear is flipped how do you index it, so the teeth are aligned? True skill comes from using what you have to make usable parts. Anyone can make parts on new equipment/tools, it takes true skill to make quality parts on worn machines/tools. Great respect for Pakistan workers!!!!
Lifting the finished piece with a steel chain on a machined surface? Their machining tolerances probably vary from "just about" to "that'll do nicely".
I did repair work ar the Mobile Pulley Works in Mobile Alabama. They had a horizontal lathe there If I remembrty correctly it could turn something 24 Ft accross. I heard something one day and followed the sound. That lathe had a tool set up on 2 sides and they were cutting off about a 1/2 inch curl on both of them. Mobile Pully made discharge pipe and fittings for the dredge industry and huge swivel joints that had to be machined Always enjoyed working there!
No hand protection. No foot protection. No head protection. No eye protection. Wearing thin, cloth clothes and sandals. Unbelievable. I really sympathize with these very skilled men, doing very dangerous work with absolutely no thought from their employer for safety.
Not tight tolerances as the dimensions would be approximately. OD .5mm, recessed diameters as well as lengths are all clearance dim. .2 to .25 The spigot bore and overall length should be tight tolerances but in reality the teeth are machined after the bore is done and that bore sits in a spigot((mandrel)(with their setup))not the most accurate way but this is not a high speed gear. So it should be fine. I am more concerned about the working environment. Just because you have old machines it doesn’t mean you have to work in a dangerous way. They have families and should work safer. Clean up, that is one big step in safety. Second Do not machine in a way that creates a danger to yourself or others around you. Work efficiently and safely then productivity and accuracy will improve and everyone will go home with all their fingers and toes.
The guy doing the welding is living dangerously. He should have gotten completely out of the truck before the crane lifted the workpiece. You never want to put yourself in between something that heavy that's suspended and a hard wall. That's a real good way to get yourself squashed. But the machine work was great, especially with the antique equipment. Those old fashioned verniers are cool, and most of these young guys these days can't even read them. I bet if I sent those guys my Mitutoyo 24" digital calipers they'd do the happy happy joy joy dance for about a week. :)
When I worked in the machine shop I never would have worn clothing so lose aside from company rules I would be in total fear of being caught up in one of those machines and killed. These guys do a great job but you would think that the company would like to keep this much skill safe.
Not only the safety concerns. But the items around are bashed . Long swarf ((different speed and feed rate or a cutting tip with a different shape(chip breaker)) Even if they cleaned up the work area. You want them to go home in one piece.
How are these guys not getting metal shards in their eyes, hands and feet. I use the old machines, from the 1930's and they work quite well, when you use micrometers, dial calipers, dial indicators and the proper measurement tools. Infact the old machines will do very good work with the proper measurement tooling, just slower than today's machines and more hands on and manually having to oil the work and machinery. The work being performed is work from the 1860's-1940's. I'm glad to see the old ways are still alive and thriving. In the US, most young machinist would never know how to operate a manual lathe or mill. It is almost a lost art here. If society were to crash, the US would have to go back to the old ways and not many people know how to operate those machines. Probably only a few hundred thousand people in a country of almost 400 million population. Great video. I always look forward to watching these videos from India and Pakistan. The old ways are not lost there
Even perhaps with 'deferred maintenance", these ancient "Made in USA" machines keep doing their job as seen here, and in another million YT videos... Great tools and skilled hands forever!
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The old Sherman tank used a double herringbone gear like that in the final drive, which was much better than the Germans use of straight cut spur gears.
Watch, looking for cheaper labor and manufacturing cost has in turn created a whole new Industrial Revolution of sorts! So now, factories over here need new union reps to make things safe. Then we need building codes and contractors. We are lucky enough to watch all of this go on in real time!! Science is happening. Wish I could get involved.
Safety doesn’t matter, there’s always another worker is willing to work for a few pennies an hour. They don’t need safety glasses because all their workers have at least two eyes. Somebody should make a TV show of the emergency room in that neighborhood.
common sense is the biggest safety, i invite you guys to come back for future videos and you will see all these wonderful people working with their full body parts and smile on their faces
These kind of places always blow my mind. Multi ton Metal working in sandals…. E: damn I love seeing those long ass stands of metal shavings. 9:55 so satisfying
It's marked out after hobbing one helix using a square and scribed lines, then a reference dot punch is marked in the centre of a tooth. A similar dot is punched opposite and the opposite helix is cut to this dot and it's aligned. A small error is unimportant as the gear will self align with its meshing pinion or wheel. The setting skill is in making sure you cut a full form involute and get your hob through the centre space without cutting into the opposite helix. I did this for 25 years making gears of up to 5 metre diameter. This guy's set up on the hobber is rather inadequate IMO, and we almost always climb hobbed whereas this chappie seems to prefer conventional. He has nowhere near enough cutting oil on the job to ensure minimal hob wear, it should be flooded. 👍🙄😄
Yup to all above, it’s in an underdeveloped country ( kept that way purposefully: see recent outbursts) by our “allies” !! Regime changed whenever it starts to get up !
I think this provides the most excellent visual evidence of why manufacturing quality has declined so severely. It was like watching a video of manufacturing in the 19th century. From the very start the whole process was dependent on one gut with the mk 1 eyeball and a beat up old tape measure. No continuous, real time measure of material being removed of constant read out of the current dimensions. Look at the amount of discoloured chips coming off, because they couldn't use sufficient cutting oil in those conditions (they'd be wallowing in a river of cutting oil). So the cutting speed has to be very low, not good for qaulity finish. And are these the working conditions we think are conducive of quality products? We all ought to be appalled that people are required to work in such conditions with absolutely zero safety. Do we think it is some how manly to work like that?? All this shows is how bloody far we are from a decent society. People would only work in such a place if their forced to. I'm sure for near slave labour rates. Yes it great to see some of these old machine tools in operation, but not when you give even 20 seconds of thought of what that is actually showing.
People do what they gotta do. Part of it is when you are a good and fast worker or can make things happen with less materials and processes then the bean counters say “well you did it without last time”.
It all depends on how much the end user wants to pay. If the end user wants high end and pays more, th more sophisticated machine can be bought. Nobody is going to buy a muti-millions machine to produce something cost a thousand dollar. It got nothing to do with manufacture quality, it is economics.
The safety coordinator's worst nightmare, is no safety shoes, no eye protection, no hearing protection, dirty shop, the violations are just too many. But from a mechanics viewpoint very cool to see how these things are made.
They must go through quite a bit of tools, drills and bits.. with how they maintain it. I bet a decent amount of time goes into jerryrigging the equipment into submission
They turn out a nice product, but in totally unsafe and messy conditions. I’m surprised workers feet aren’t sliced open by walking on all the chips. Get somebody to sweep up in there. At least the crane operator had on his safety sweater. 😮
Well! Thanks for product acknowledgment, You can come back to watch these people with full body parts in future videos, which means they are safe, working all days and many nights 7 days a week, trash, swarf and chips pilling up every minute, these load and loads of metal remaining are taken care off when needed.
@@hydraulichands These guys are working in extremely unsafe conditions. They need at the very minimum to be provided with steel cap boots, safety glasses, proper overalls. There are numerous hazards in this workshop with trip hazards, giant piles of swarf laying around, power cables laying on the floor amongst all of this
@hydraulichands - I understand. No body wants their family get hurt. I’m totally impressed by your work - especially that old gear hobber - I had a teacher once who said “well maintained tools will never wear out”. You still make me nervous wearing open toed shoes around really heavy and Sharp stuff. But love your work.
These guys are awesome ,no fancy equipment and still get the job done ,now thats a machinist !!! nice work !!!! no awesome work with such old equipment ...
As an engineer ,this is the most counterproductive machining iv seen. Dont get me wrong, they do an awesome job but id use those machines way different with todays technics to make it way more time efficient.
Yah OSHA would go crazy in that shop if in the USA. We may have gotten safer in the US but our quality has also suffered as well as our work effort. People back when I was a kid had common sense, today there would have to be warnings on everything say heavy, sharp edges, and even known to cause cancer in California or some other stupid shit.
The people working manufacturing jobs in the United States today are less intelligent than the people working manufacturing jobs back in the good old days when your koolaid had cadmium in it. The machinists and blue collar workers who used to work these factories now work as engineers, at tech companies, or in academia today because those are the fields that have jobs which a reasonably intelligent person can have a career that they can survive on. Everyone that still works in a steelmill in the US does so because that’s the limit of what they are capable of. Therefore, the safety warnings.
it will disappoint you but the figure is ZERO, all these workers working from years and you can see their feet, as they are not hiding their toes in boots, you can count them all. and i invite you for future videos as well to prove that they can take care of their body parts in slippers and pajamas
This machine is a Webster & Bennett, as an apprentice I worked on an almost Identical machine for 18 months, 5 days a week + saturday mornings...on rings of steel that weighed 1- 1/4 cwt. I still remember the smell & noise over 60 years later.
Yep, its totally personal choice
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I bet you had boots on and your salary wasn't 3 chickens a week.
@@bobdexter1029: Lol
@@bobdexter1029 probably got more Goose eggs than chickens..
To me, this is like relaxation therapy. I could watch this process all day, lol. Subscribed.
To me, this is like relaxation therapy. I could Read this comment all day, lol. Thanks. 😉
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To me it gives me anxiety seeing those terrible cutters and the long stringy swarf.
Oh and the open toed shoes.
I wanted to see how they indexed the gear cutting when they flipped it over so the teeth on each side lineup.
This is relaxing to me ruclips.net/video/u_PFOQSyKBE/видео.html
I don't care where its made, it takes a great deal of skill to machine parts on this scale. Especially using equipment this old. Very impressive.
Such woders only happen in Pakistan. That is how they are nuclear.
No it really doesn't
@@Kenneth_James to be precision i would say it does plus the man power needed must be crazy
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A incredibly large amount of factory large machines are made pre 1960 . They just get serviced and upgraded when needed.
Love how you can go to work in your pajamas and slippers! Watch out for the toes, easy to loose them!
Somewhere, there's an OSHA inspector having an aneurysm watching this.
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...And I hope he is watching it in the company of a 1000 others
I thought that my job working in a restaurant/bar was really hard, but watching you fine gentleman, do your work you have made me realise my job is nothing but easy compared to yours. You guys work so hard and hand have done an excellent job. Congratulations well done on your hard work and greetings from India.
I like the way of unloosening the nut in the end - let the machine do the work. A lot of people wouldn't have thought of that.
I love watching the old VTL (vertical turning lathe) make such huge chips. Those old W&B’s (Webster and Bennet) could really hog out the material so fast. Watching this is like a time machine back in the 20’s through the 50’s. Those old machines keep working after thousands of hours of use.
MRR on this is a fraction of what you can do on modern slant bed lathe. There's no heavy cuts here at all.
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Good old Webster and Bennett machine.
I'd say these guys are pretty skilled. It's not what you've got its what you do with it (as the actress said to the arch bishop!).
Loved the way the guy marked it out with chalk, I remember doing similar when machining castings years ago.
Putting it on the gear hobber and supporting the base with jacks made of nuts and bolts (been there, done that), using old components as clamping washers....Yes these guys know what they are doing alright. Where there's a will is a way. Goodness knows what these gears sound like when running, but these guys are very good at getting by and making the best of what they have available.
Thanks for sharing your point of view, glad to hear that.😊 😇
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In Pakistan we have to make to do with what we have. One day we will get new technology but for now we must rely on our skills.
Felicitaciones son unos maestros y que hermosa maquinaria
even 19th century likely had far better worker conditions.....
In my Hometown 5 mins away in Duisburg (Germany), we have a Company making Industrial Gears, this size. The steps are pretty much the same. The machinery is like "Good old green and Heavy Duty", German Mechanics and Machinists known very well. Jobbed there as a Teenager a few Weeks.
I love the blue wires you manufacture in every of your videos :) But i also have great respect for what u are doing with that old equipment!
At least you guys are not wearing flip flops, but proper sandals. 🙂
Great Job!
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Now we know where all the old, heavy machinery went to from North America and Europe. These workers are amazing. I am also sure that when the industrial revolution first started in North America and Europe, safety was not a major concern of the owners towards their workers. Hopefully, these places will eventually progress as we did.
Went there from England when English were there....
safety apparatus comes with lots of money. and we all know how North America and Europe got the money...stealing whole continents and its resources, enslaving people, wars, bullying other countries ect.
Tks! Bless you. Tell that to Uncle Sam!!
The Industrial Revolution started in the North and Midlands of Gt Britain where those Webster and Bennet boring machines were made almost a hundred years ago.
Old time modernisation!!!Simple but beyond someone’s thoughts!!!So great!!. It would be fascinating to get stats on work injuries..
I'm impressed with the product, considering the equipment, no carbide tools or even compressed air .
They used carbide tip tools, you just thought all carbide tools have bolt on inserts. These guys are tool makers as well as machinists.
As always, work safety is number 1 priority.
They sat it down like a piece of junk in the end !!!!!! Haaa haaaaaaaaaaa crazeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Except when you live, work, and die in Crapistan.
safety third. All taxation is theft...so its banned. Devalued money and Currency backed by nothing is the reason for all wars so punishable by death. Honest trade among friendship. Article 1 Section 10
No safety no job...
Just love those steel toed sandals!
Always enjoyable, Those guys sure don't have to worry about what they wear to work.
Glad you enjoyed it
It'd be nice to have a welding mask though lol.
That ribbon swarf made my nuts tighten up , as an apprentice saw an older tradesman get slashed across the back of his legs on an identical borer, it came out under the job between the jaws like a demented whipper snipper
Thank you for not speeding up the video. It’s hard to find industrial videos from developing countries that aren’t sped up 50% with the workers sounding like chipmunks.
Ño computer's no boots no safety gear
A whole lot of common sense n mathematical skills and diligent work ethics.
Thanks for the video.
glad you liked it
Amazing skills, and using equipment used in the 1950's !! My compliments to these artisans.
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@@crispindry2815 They are Artisans they are using their Skills to make an object that did not exist before, from a painting to music to machine parts it's the same principle. Using your skills to make something you put your mind and soul in to.
@@drscopeify stop smoking hard food
@@heroinwitheaseAre you on something mate?
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Passionate people doing real work. Well done guys !
The restraint these men show when not using that giant metal billet on a chain as a swing is incredible.
Yeah, got to love their safety footwear eh..
Like the coolant, really saving the pennies
They are paid in pennies, max $4 a day. So wtf you think they buy PPE of $80 steel toe shoes or food for families?
I visited a large gear turning shop in Sheffield about 10 years ago, which had several large horizontal lathes and milling stations for this kind of work. More sophisticated equipment in the main with CNC on some stations. It was fascinating. We wanted a replacement part made for an indexing unit used on our Bridgeport Mill. Once Sheffield was full of traditional places like this making and fixing parts for big machines, but it's harder to find them now. So many of the good machines were exported or scrapped when they closed down.
Yep, I dont know what is "smarter than others". This all looks like very old technology from 18th century.
The guy welding without a mask is not good. I give them credit for being hard workers. The bosses are exploiting most of these people.
I am amazed by the work you are doing, but also amazed by the lack of safety standards.
Impressive. I was thinking, hope he shows how they lined up the blank gear. You did! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Ah, but how did they line up the other side of the hobbed gear? Probably by marking it in the first place, but we'll never know.
@@hydraulichands He was being sarcastic. I'm tipping the two gears are a long way out of alignment "It looks good so it must be right, engineering and measurement doesn't matter"
It would have been very interesting to see that giant gear working at its operational setup.
I agree. I love to see the end product doing what it's designed for. This gear isn't finished yet either, I'm sure it must be polished and hardened because this is not particularly hard steel.
Yea 5 minutes… it’s 3mm two small!.. 😂
right, it's just a standalone wheel right now, not linked to anything
with the friction loss on those bearings, this can't be for a flywheel, what's it for I wonder
Old time modernisation!!!Simple but beyond someone’s thoughts!!!So great!!. Muito bom .
I was a Toolmaker in the united states, never had the pleasure of making gears. When the gear is flipped how do you index it, so the teeth are aligned? True skill comes from using what you have to make usable parts. Anyone can make parts on new equipment/tools, it takes true skill to make quality parts on worn machines/tools. Great respect for Pakistan workers!!!!
Brilliant work by talented team.
Glad you liked it
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@Flaming-Dwagon : Glad you loled it, some how it helps me
Lifting the finished piece with a steel chain on a machined surface? Their machining tolerances probably vary from "just about" to "that'll do nicely".
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You men are just amazing to watch work. Can’t thank you enough for sharing.
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I did repair work ar the Mobile Pulley Works in Mobile Alabama. They had a horizontal lathe there If I remembrty correctly it could turn something 24 Ft accross. I heard something one day and followed the sound. That lathe had a tool set up on 2 sides and they were cutting off about a 1/2 inch curl on both of them. Mobile Pully made discharge pipe and fittings for the dredge industry and huge swivel joints that had to be machined Always enjoyed working there!
No hand protection. No foot protection. No head protection. No eye protection. Wearing thin, cloth clothes and sandals. Unbelievable. I really sympathize with these very skilled men, doing very dangerous work with absolutely no thought from their employer for safety.
As a retired UK engineer, looks an amazing process, obviously working to tight tolerances, but wouldn't recommend the sandles, but fair play
Not tight tolerances as the dimensions would be approximately. OD .5mm, recessed diameters as well as lengths are all clearance dim. .2 to .25
The spigot bore and overall length should be tight tolerances but in reality the teeth are machined after the bore is done and that bore sits in a spigot((mandrel)(with their setup))not the most accurate way but this is not a high speed gear.
So it should be fine.
I am more concerned about the working environment.
Just because you have old machines it doesn’t mean you have to work in a dangerous way.
They have families and should work safer.
Clean up, that is one big step in safety.
Second
Do not machine in a way that creates a danger to yourself or others around you.
Work efficiently and safely then productivity and accuracy will improve and everyone will go home with all their fingers and toes.
@@7thplanet121 what would the application of such gear be?
@@rastislavstanik Clearly it's for a Puch moped. Just kidding. Looks like maritime maybe.
@@retinaquester haha that would be the 1000 hp moped :D
The guy doing the welding is living dangerously. He should have gotten completely out of the truck before the crane lifted the workpiece. You never want to put yourself in between something that heavy that's suspended and a hard wall. That's a real good way to get yourself squashed. But the machine work was great, especially with the antique equipment. Those old fashioned verniers are cool, and most of these young guys these days can't even read them. I bet if I sent those guys my Mitutoyo 24" digital calipers they'd do the happy happy joy joy dance for about a week. :)
It's clear safety is NOT a consideration at all hardly in these videos.
good to see they have their safety sandals on
Propper safety boots eont help regardless 😂
@@Mike_Netic I dunno, I dont like the idea of stubbing my toe on a big piece of swarf if I'm wearing open toed sandals xD..
I doubt they have the money for safety equipment. The do a lot with a little
Leave the people alone they are doing their best
When I worked in the machine shop I never would have worn clothing so lose aside from company rules I would be in total fear of being caught up in one of those machines and killed. These guys do a great job but you would think that the company would like to keep this much skill safe.
The loose clothing is a religious gesture not a company rule. All men wear them more often than not.
Working harder than any American can imagine! Great work!
Old time modernisation!!!
Simple but beyond someone’s thoughts!!!
So great!!🌺
It would be fascinating to get stats on work injuries.
What do you consider an injury? The one guy is sunspotted for life at this point
There's not many, because they are using their brain while doing the job... ;-)
So that you can gloat over your superiority to these men who do a decent job with what they have got!
"We have no stinkin' injuries!" - Toeless Raheem
Actually close to zero..In the west we go abit overboard imo....
This is very stressful to watch as a german machinist, but also very interesting at the same time
Not only the safety concerns.
But the items around are bashed .
Long swarf ((different speed and feed rate or a cutting tip with a different shape(chip breaker))
Even if they cleaned up the work area.
You want them to go home in one piece.
Firstly how quickly the equipment must break down.
Second, what different tolerance does these products must have.
+/-100mm 😬
What, you don't wear safety-sandals in Germany?
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How are these guys not getting metal shards in their eyes, hands and feet. I use the old machines, from the 1930's and they work quite well, when you use micrometers, dial calipers, dial indicators and the proper measurement tools. Infact the old machines will do very good work with the proper measurement tooling, just slower than today's machines and more hands on and manually having to oil the work and machinery. The work being performed is work from the 1860's-1940's. I'm glad to see the old ways are still alive and thriving. In the US, most young machinist would never know how to operate a manual lathe or mill. It is almost a lost art here. If society were to crash, the US would have to go back to the old ways and not many people know how to operate those machines. Probably only a few hundred thousand people in a country of almost 400 million population. Great video. I always look forward to watching these videos from India and Pakistan. The old ways are not lost there
The working conditions make this not much fun to watch, though ☹
Now those of us who work in this are well paid and with the new CNC technology these jobs are done super fast.
I think that I will quit college shop classes and go with these guys to learn the real thing from the ground up.
Parabens trabalhei por muitos anos acompanhando esse tipo de usinagem do inicio ao fim do processo belo trabalho
Schrottplatz .... ?
This machinist's skills are incredible. I would love to learn from him.
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Why? It’s very basic machining. Feeds and speeds also don’t seem to be a thing here
You never get a job in a real gearbox factory with this skills ...
Very satisfying to watch. Perfection.
I don't understand anything about this, but I found it kinda relaxing
How does one match the cutter for the bottom teeth before starting the cut on the top ones?
salute to these guys. maybe some sacrifice on the precision but this is really admirable
Even perhaps with 'deferred maintenance", these ancient "Made in USA" machines keep doing their job as seen here, and in another million YT videos... Great tools and skilled hands forever!
Ehm, W&B is British and the other machines German. Maybe you confuse this with a burger joint
Great Point
اسلام وعلیکم. بھائی آپ نے کسی ایک کو بھی نہ تو سفٹی شوز اور نہ ہی سفٹی ھلمٹ دیا ھوا ھے.
ماشاءاللہ اتنی بڑی ورکشاپ ھے. آپ کو چاہیے سفٹی فرسٹ. شکریہ
I like how they have tuned every single machine to have its own uniqe chatter screech in a different tone....
Glad you liked it
How the heck, is that guy in the truck arc welding without a shield for his eyes? Does he cry himself to sleep every night? 🤣
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I'm guessing when its breaktime, they simply walk out the back door and take a shite in the Ganges.
Don't worry it looks really safe in there and nobody needs steel toe work boots
Top site, love these old machines.
The old Sherman tank used a double herringbone gear like that in the final drive, which was much better than the Germans use of straight cut spur gears.
Andre Citroen invented the double helix gear hence the 2 chevron logo
Sandals!! I use boots in my shop and sometimes end up with burrs in my feet
you better visit them to take training class from them
There feet are probably so calloused they are like gnarly old leather.
these guys are smart and very technically professionals
Watch, looking for cheaper labor and manufacturing cost has in turn created a whole new Industrial Revolution of sorts! So now, factories over here need new union reps to make things safe. Then we need building codes and contractors. We are lucky enough to watch all of this go on in real time!! Science is happening. Wish I could get involved.
I see they have the OSHA approved sandals, eye protection, and welders mask! Obviously worker safety is not high on the list
The welder did have a safety squint. What more could anyone do?
Safety doesn’t matter, there’s always another worker is willing to work for a few pennies an hour.
They don’t need safety glasses because all their workers have at least two eyes.
Somebody should make a TV show of the emergency room in that neighborhood.
It's Pakistan, America doesn't run the world you know, they just try to dictate to it.
And that is why they can undercut the rest of the world on price.
common sense is the biggest safety, i invite you guys to come back for future videos and you will see all these wonderful people working with their full body parts and smile on their faces
How could the transport truck at the beginning survive the delivery of that element?
so thats where eurocopter buys the super puma gearbox parts 😮
These kind of places always blow my mind. Multi ton Metal working in sandals….
E: damn I love seeing those long ass stands of metal shavings. 9:55 so satisfying
Would like to see how they set up the RH and LH cut so both sides are in alignment. Would also love to know how long this takes. Mad skills!
It's marked out after hobbing one helix using a square and scribed lines, then a reference dot punch is marked in the centre of a tooth. A similar dot is punched opposite and the opposite helix is cut to this dot and it's aligned. A small error is unimportant as the gear will self align with its meshing pinion or wheel.
The setting skill is in making sure you cut a full form involute and get your hob through the centre space without cutting into the opposite helix.
I did this for 25 years making gears of up to 5 metre diameter.
This guy's set up on the hobber is rather inadequate IMO, and we almost always climb hobbed whereas this chappie seems to prefer conventional.
He has nowhere near enough cutting oil on the job to ensure minimal hob wear, it should be flooded. 👍🙄😄
I see that safety flip flops are standard footwear.
No welding mask either 0:50
Safety flip flops and work rated pajamas
Blah Blah Blah, yet you folks still keep on watching
Yup to all above, it’s in an underdeveloped country ( kept that way purposefully: see recent outbursts) by our “allies” !! Regime changed whenever it starts to get up !
I really admire the safety flip flops of the crane operator. APROVED!
I understand and respect everything, but the sandals, I will never comprehend the sandals!
I think this provides the most excellent visual evidence of why manufacturing quality has declined so severely. It was like watching a video of manufacturing in the 19th century. From the very start the whole process was dependent on one gut with the mk 1 eyeball and a beat up old tape measure. No continuous, real time measure of material being removed of constant read out of the current dimensions. Look at the amount of discoloured chips coming off, because they couldn't use sufficient cutting oil in those conditions (they'd be wallowing in a river of cutting oil). So the cutting speed has to be very low, not good for qaulity finish. And are these the working conditions we think are conducive of quality products? We all ought to be appalled that people are required to work in such conditions with absolutely zero safety. Do we think it is some how manly to work like that?? All this shows is how bloody far we are from a decent society. People would only work in such a place if their forced to. I'm sure for near slave labour rates. Yes it great to see some of these old machine tools in operation, but not when you give even 20 seconds of thought of what that is actually showing.
Everything you said is Genuinely True
People do what they gotta do. Part of it is when you are a good and fast worker or can make things happen with less materials and processes then the bean counters say “well you did it without last time”.
It all depends on how much the end user wants to pay. If the end user wants high end and pays more, th more sophisticated machine can be bought. Nobody is going to buy a muti-millions machine to produce something cost a thousand dollar. It got nothing to do with manufacture quality, it is economics.
You seem slightly dramatic to me but I get your point
@@hydraulichandsyet you will not improve your conditions? What are you waiting for? Wasting money to get fat only
Muito bom 👏👏👏 🇧🇷🇧🇷
the working man looks the same the world over
well done and have a great day :)
The safety coordinator's worst nightmare, is no safety shoes, no eye protection, no hearing protection, dirty shop, the violations are just too many. But from a mechanics viewpoint very cool to see how these things are made.
I think there was also a lamb walking in the background :D
fact: life is cheap in India ....... someone gets killed? Give his family 200$ and wheel in the next guy.
@@rastislavstanik goat
They must go through quite a bit of tools, drills and bits.. with how they maintain it.
I bet a decent amount of time goes into jerryrigging the equipment into submission
Damn! The dude wearing open toes sandals walking over those razor sharp metal shavings. 😮
Nothing like machining and walking around in razor sharp metal shavings in sandals and flip flops.
Hitting the tooth of the chuck @ 18:08 was hard to watch.
Jaw of the chuck but we know what you meant!😀
I wonder what the health and safety record is in this place :)
😂
Non existent
Got to admit, some amazing skills here. Not sure that the materials are up to scratch but still very good watch
Elaborate?
Love those safety sandals 😶
"Fun fact" : here in Italy we have safety shoes made in India🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
Here in Russia too
Colin Furze could do a roaring trade selling his Safety Ties to these lads.
Éste sí no es un trabajo computarizado, me parece increíble!
They turn out a nice product, but in totally unsafe and messy conditions. I’m surprised workers feet aren’t sliced open by walking on all the chips. Get somebody to sweep up in there. At least the crane operator had on his safety sweater. 😮
Well! Thanks for product acknowledgment, You can come back to watch these people with full body parts in future videos, which means they are safe, working all days and many nights 7 days a week, trash, swarf and chips pilling up every minute, these load and loads of metal remaining are taken care off when needed.
@@hydraulichands These guys are working in extremely unsafe conditions. They need at the very minimum to be provided with steel cap boots, safety glasses, proper overalls. There are numerous hazards in this workshop with trip hazards, giant piles of swarf laying around, power cables laying on the floor amongst all of this
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@hydraulichands - I understand. No body wants their family get hurt. I’m totally impressed by your work - especially that old gear hobber - I had a teacher once who said “well maintained tools will never wear out”. You still make me nervous wearing open toed shoes around really heavy and Sharp stuff. But love your work.
@@hydraulichands the next thing you'd have us to believe is noone ever gets injured on the job.
Very interesting. But are those sandals up to OSHA standards?
I just imagine on the metal slivers you have to deal with in your toes and feet. Dayum
love the safety sandals
Very impressive work ! 👍
Glad you liked it
These guys are awesome ,no fancy equipment and still get the job done ,now thats a machinist !!! nice work !!!! no awesome work with such old equipment ...
Glad you liked it 😇
This fabrikasi manufacture India or Pakistan country
Clothes and speaking Punjabi from Pakistan
Wow, amazing work! So much patience with such huge machines !
the finishes aren't great but overall impressive considering the working environment and equipment they have
What's weird is even with it being so big the edges would slice you like a razor.
As an engineer ,this is the most counterproductive machining iv seen. Dont get me wrong, they do an awesome job but id use those machines way different with todays technics to make it way more time efficient.
"Technics" ?
@@brianwood7480 technologie, i was wording it in my native language somehow xD
Machinists do what they have to do to correct engineers mistakes.
@@SPIKESBIKES50 i do both, but what you r saying is quite the opposite where i work. And we make huge drills for halliburton oil platforms.
go there show them .
nice, very safe, precise and beautiful, just like swiss clockwork...
😉😁
Yah OSHA would go crazy in that shop if in the USA.
We may have gotten safer in the US but our quality has also suffered as well as our work effort. People back when I was a kid had common sense, today there would have to be warnings on everything say heavy, sharp edges, and even known to cause cancer in California or some other stupid shit.
same here in the UK.
The people working manufacturing jobs in the United States today are less intelligent than the people working manufacturing jobs back in the good old days when your koolaid had cadmium in it. The machinists and blue collar workers who used to work these factories now work as engineers, at tech companies, or in academia today because those are the fields that have jobs which a reasonably intelligent person can have a career that they can survive on. Everyone that still works in a steelmill in the US does so because that’s the limit of what they are capable of. Therefore, the safety warnings.
Wonder how many Toes have been lost in that shop😳
it will disappoint you but the figure is ZERO, all these workers working from years and you can see their feet, as they are not hiding their toes in boots, you can count them all. and i invite you for future videos as well to prove that they can take care of their body parts in slippers and pajamas
Nice work. VTL's are fun.
I think it's amazing they wear flip flops and still have all their toes.