Love May she's so sweet and down to earth, so glad she was there for John in that time of his life I'm only sorry he didn't stay with her 😔. I still want to see this documentary about John's lost weekend me growing up partly in the 70's as a child and into the 80's and 90's John and the Beatles were a big part of my life, may John and George RIP ❤❤
John himself said in his very last radio or any interview,that he came from the macho school of pretense and he said he knows it's more like this in England, but it's like this in America too, that as a boy you were mainly trained to be in the army, and you were taught not to cry,not show emotions,don't touch,don't feel,don't react and John said he thinks that's what screwed us all up and that it's time for a change. In the great article in The Nation,Lennon's Last Interview:The Sixties Showed Us The Possibility by Jon Wiener, he said in John's last radio interview by Dave Sholin of RKO Radio (and this was hours before John was tragically killed by the one time big Beatles fan since he was 11,and John had been his favorite Beatle) Dave asked John about feminism and John said, ''I'm more feminist now than I was when I sang Woman Is The N***er Of The World.'' in this article John is then quoted saying,' 'Isn't it time we destroyed the macho ethic? Where has it gotten us all of these thousands of years? Are we still going to have be clubbing each other to death? Do I have to arm-wrestle you to have a relationship with you as another male? Can we not have a relationship on another level?'' Also this great article by long time anti-sexist,anti-men's violence,anti-pornography educator former all star high school football player and author of the great,important 2006 book,The Macho Paradox:How Some Men Hurt Women and How All Men Can Help, Jackson Katz.John Lennon on Fatherhood,Feminism,and Phony Tough Guy Posturing Also Cynthia Lennon is quoted in the great John Lennon biography Lennon,by award winning music journalist and former editor of The Melody Maker Magazine and good friend of John's for 18 years,Ray Coleman as saying somethings like she knew as soon as she saw John and Yoko together she knew that she lost him,and that it was a meeting of the minds and that she knew that they were right for each other. She also said that she told John before he started his relationship with Yoko that she sees and incredible similarity between him and Yoko and said to him that there is something about her that is just like you.She told him that he may say that she's this crazy avant garde artist but she can see more into his future with Yoko than he could.
What might have been if only Yoko Ono hadn"t dragged him back.She really didn't want to see him happy. She made him suffer with the mother complex by working on his guilt. John and May would still have been together, and who knows what he could have done from 1975 onwards...
I really like May she's very smart, kind and she was beautiful when she was young and she still looks very attractive. But John Lennon is a great example of how we are not naturally fixed to be a certain way as females or males, he went from being a psychologically messed up drunk very young guy who hit his girl friends (not wives though,Cynthia Lennon said he only hit her twice before they were married) and got into fist fights with men. But he changed 180% into a pro-feminist, and then also a nurturing house husband and father in just a few short years. I have a wordpress blog, John Lennon Became A Feminist & Nurturing House Husband & Father Thanks To His Relationship With Yoko Ono includes all of links to the pro-feminist interviews with John through the years that I posted on my blog In the January 1971 interview with Red Mole John says that Yoko was well into liberation before he met her and that she had to fight her way through a man's world and he said the art world is completely dominated by men and said so Yoko was full of revolutionary zeal when they met. Then John said there was never any question about it that they had to have a 50-50 relationship or there was no relationship and he said he was quick to learn and he said that Yoko did an article in Nova more than two years back in which she said Woman is the Ni**er of the world.A year later he co-wrote with Yoko the song Woman Is The N*gger of The World,and bravely performed it live on The Dick Cavett show and at Madison Square Garden in 1972 and the song was banned off a lot of radio stations.John also says in this same interview that it's very subtle how you're taught male superiority. There is also a great interview with John Lennon and Yoko Ono at The St.Regis Hotel in September 1971. And Yoko was asked if she knew about what really went on during The Beatles tours,and she says she had thought that he's an artist I'm sure he has had a few affairs, and she said she was really shocked and she said Oh God! when John told her the whole story about what he called all of the raving that went on their tours,Yoko said she had never heard the word groupie before.And Yoko was no innocent either,John was her third husband,she had a daughter with her second husband,and she had quite a few affairs and even abortions in the 1960's. He also said in this interview that he treated Yoko the same as other men, he found himself being a chauvinist pig with her,then I started thinking,well if I said that to Paul or asked Paul to do that or George or Ringo they'd tell me to f*** off and then you realize you have this attitude toward women that is just insane! Then John said it's beyond belief the way we're brought up to think of women. He said much the same things minus the F word when he and Yoko were co-hosting the Mike Douglas show in January 1972 after Mike Douglas asked Yoko if John's attitude towards her had changed because of the women's movement ,and at first Yoko who was always a feminist who rejected sexist gender roles and gender stereotypes, said John's attitude was the same as when they first met but John was honest enough to say,No I was a chauvinist, I was chauvinist,then he said to Yoko can I just say what you taught me? John then said in this September 1971 interview,And I had to keep saying,well would I tell a guy to do that? Would I say that to a guy? Would a guy take that? He then said,Then I started to get nervous, I thought, f*ck I better treat her right or she's going to go, no friend's going to stick around for this treatment. John also said,It took me a long time to get used to it,any woman I could shout down,most of my arguments used to be a question of who could shout the loudest. Normally I could win whether I was right or wrong,especially if the argument was with a woman,they'd just give in but she didn't.She'd go on,and on, and on until I understood it,then I had to treat her with respect. There is also a Yoko Ono and John Lennon June 1973 radio interview about how feminism has changed John for the better,he says he learned how to cook,& that most men don't do it, & how most women are brought up not to know how to work tape recorders or fix their bikes,most men are brought up not knowing how to cook or take care of themselves. The interviewer Danny Schechter asked John if besides sharing work,if John had been going through his own changes about his own role,about his relationship to Yoko,to other women,and to other men,and John said,it's completely changed it's been a process of about 4 or 5 years,John said it was like having 1 eye shut and that once you start acknowledging that women are oppressed slaves you can never go back . John was the only man to attend the first international feminist conference when this interview took place. Two years later when he & Yoko's son Sean was born John became a househusband,changed Sean's diapers,cooked & Yoko worked in their business office
In a great chapter from a 2016 book,Concerning Consequences:Studies In art,Destruction And Trauma by Kristine Stiles discusses how John Lennon became a feminist because of Yoko Ono and how he changed the way he was socially conditioned into gender definitions and they both went against gender roles and stereotypes and he doesn't really get credit for this,and Yoko doesn't get credit in John's feminism and liberation. Yoko Ono also said in a 1986 interview where she's quoted in this book, John wasn't really macho he was a sweet sensitive person but he had been conditioned by society and she said he was a real feminist and he read a lot of books about it.
In Part 3 Of John Lennon's Last Radio Interview just hours before he was tragically killed by the crazy horrible fan who had been a big Beatles fan since he was 11 and John had been his favorite Beatle,and he shot John 5 times right in front of Yoko,and just hours after John was nice enough to take the time to autograph a copy of his new album,and years later he said he met and shook hands with John's then 5 year old son Sean just two days before he killed John and he said he was the cutest little boy he ever saw and that it never occurred to him that he would never see his father ever again. DECEMBER 8,1980, He Said That He's more Of a Feminist now than When he sang woman is the N***er Of The World,that he was intellectually a feminist then but now he's at least put his body where his mouth was and really try to live up to his own preaching. He was referring to the fact that he and Yoko reversed gender roles and he became a nurturing house husband and father to Yoko and their son Sean for the first 5 years of Sean's life until he died.
Barbara Graystark of Newsweek interviewed John September 1980 and part of what she said to John is,You've come a long way from the man who wrote at 23,''Women should be obscene rather than heard.'' And she asks John how did this happen? And John said that he was a working-class macho guy who was used to being served and Yoko didn't buy that. John then said that from the day he met Yoko,she demanded equal time,equal space,equal rights.He said that he said to Yoko then,don't expect him to change in any way and don't impinge on his space.John said that Yoko said to him then she can't be here because there's no space where you are everything revolves around him and that she can't breath in that atmosphere. John then says in this interview that he's thankful to her for the ( meaning feminist) education.
There is a great Article,In Defense Of John Lennon And Yoko Ono's Woman Is The Ni**er Of The World By Joe Raiola He so rightly says that John Lennon made an unlikely remarkable journey evolving from a misogynist, to a feminist, to a house husband. And Joe also so rightly said that John actually modeled the journey that countless American men need to make. John and Yoko weren't opposites at all, they were actually a lot alike and that's why they had such a great relationship.John said on the Mike Douglas show when he and Yoko co-hosted it for a week in January-February 1972,that he and Yoko's minds and ideas were so similar,and that they were very similar in their heads,and he said it was incredible that they were so much alike even though they had very different upbringings and environments.
John himself felt he'd had a "lost weekend", Period. Even with all the accomplishments, the old friends, etc., John still felt lost without Yoko. So the term should indeed be used and respected, as it was John's assessment of his own feelings as only he could feel them. Not May's, not the producer's, not the fans' nor anyone else's.
Lost Weekend is a very famous Billy Wilder film about an alcoholic who spends his time well, drinking. John called it his last weekend because for most of the time he was in California, he was constantly drinking and doing cocaine with Ringo, Nilsson and Keith Moon. It has nothing to do with “feeling lost”. Towards the end he did sober up and made Walls and Bridges.
People who have controlling, narcissistic partners often feel lost without them. Ask any psychologist. Throughout her relationship with John, Yoko showed all the signs of being the classic narcissist. That's just a fact.
@@Chinachik So what, if John was happy? Can't you just let it be already? And what would a psychologist think of internet commenters who won't live and let live, spending so much time bashing Yoko some 50+ years already?
@@cactaceous I know all about Ray Milland in THE LOST WEEKEND. I am a movie buff and I've seen it, and I completely understand why John used that reference. All the same, Lennon did say he couldn't survive without Yoko and felt completely lost without her- in addition to all the alcoholism and coke, etc.
@@MeanMrMayo It's not bashing Yoko to state that she was a controlling person and a narcissist. Everyone knew it and she likely recognized those traits in herself. I do live and let live, no one's harassing Yoko. She couldn't care less what I say on RUclips. And contrary to what you seem to believe, I've spent very little time and energy on her over the past 50 years. Probably a lot less than you have.
May is a nice lady. John was happier with yoko. Hate to say it but May pang was office staff. A secretary. A relationship of convenience She was nowhere near johns intellectual and spiritual equal. John Lennon was bored with May and ran back to yoko happily and willingly.
May Pang greatest gal for JL. pity Yo put black magik on him. When he was dead he was found to be malnourished and underweight. YO treated John like filth 😮. She projected onto him hiw she was treated. Her artwork? Crap.😅
all true but I would even say that in his last months he was clearly emaciated while among the living. I believe he would have split with Yoko eventually and hopefully gained back his health. I believe he was on the road to that.
She is really milking it about this year and a half, fifty years ago. She must be making money out of these interviews. Another Cynthia, who never stopped milking her connection with John for all she could get out of it.
@@chezzachezza7325 Yeah, he was surrounded by women who tried to make money and fame out of his name. May, Cynthia and Yoko all cashed in on his famous name. Cynthia married another three times after John, and insisted on calling herself Lennon to be on TV chat shows, and have articles and books published. No-one would have heard of Yoko without John's name.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 he left them with nothing. He treated them abysmally. He OWED them. How can you mrons say anything bad about Cynthia and Julian ? Go enjoy Yoko's fake art. Lol
JOHN AND MAY MADE A GREAT COUPLE... MAY UNDERSTOOD JOHN.. I WISH THEY NEVER PARTED... BUT JOHN NEVER COULD GO ON WITHOUT ONO.. BUT SHE WAS NOT FOR HIM.. JUST MY OPINION....ALWAYS LOVE JOHN AND MAY💖💖💖💖💖🇨🇦
The Lost Weekend is a significant contribution in understanding John during this period
Love May she's so sweet and down to earth, so glad she was there for John in that time of his life I'm only sorry he didn't stay with her 😔. I still want to see this documentary about John's lost weekend me growing up partly in the 70's as a child and into the 80's and 90's John and the Beatles were a big part of my life, may John and George RIP ❤❤
She is such a down to earth real person! No wonder John loved her!
Wonderful! Thank you!
John himself said in his very last radio or any interview,that he came from the macho school of pretense and he said he knows it's more like this in England, but it's like this in America too, that as a boy you were mainly trained to be in the army, and you were taught not to cry,not show emotions,don't touch,don't feel,don't react and John said he thinks that's what screwed us all up and that it's time for a change.
In the great article in The Nation,Lennon's Last Interview:The Sixties Showed Us The Possibility by Jon Wiener, he said in John's last radio interview by Dave Sholin of RKO Radio (and this was hours before John was tragically killed by the one time big Beatles fan since he was 11,and John had been his favorite Beatle) Dave asked John about feminism and John said, ''I'm more feminist now than I was when I sang Woman Is The N***er Of The World.'' in this article John is then quoted saying,' 'Isn't it time we destroyed the macho ethic? Where has it gotten us all of these thousands of years?
Are we still going to have be clubbing each other to death? Do I have to arm-wrestle you to have a relationship with you as another male? Can we not have a relationship on another level?'' Also this great article by long time anti-sexist,anti-men's violence,anti-pornography educator former all star high school football player and author of the great,important 2006 book,The Macho Paradox:How Some Men Hurt Women and How All Men Can Help, Jackson Katz.John Lennon on Fatherhood,Feminism,and Phony Tough Guy Posturing
Also Cynthia Lennon is quoted in the great John Lennon biography Lennon,by award winning music journalist and former editor of The Melody Maker Magazine and good friend of John's for 18 years,Ray Coleman as saying somethings like she knew as soon as she saw John and Yoko together she knew that she lost him,and that it was a meeting of the minds and that she knew that they were right for each other.
She also said that she told John before he started his relationship with Yoko that she sees and incredible similarity between him and Yoko and said to him that there is something about her that is just like you.She told him that he may say that she's this crazy avant garde artist but she can see more into his future with Yoko than he could.
Good interview!
Thanks very much.
she seems to be a very lovely person! like her so much!
Enjoyed this very much and can't wait to see the film!
Thanks Tom!!!
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Great episode, thank you.
Have you guys ever considered doing an album ranking show?
For group, solo or both?
@Mitchell Axelrod both would be great! Been a fan since the fab fourum days.
Enjoyed this immensely...Bless you May
@@juliatutor8099 Thanks Julia!
What might have been if only Yoko Ono hadn"t dragged him back.She really didn't want to see him happy. She made him suffer with the mother complex by working on his guilt.
John and May would still have been together, and who knows what he could have done from 1975 onwards...
Can you post a link for Tony's interview with May Pang and also a link for Rob's interview with May Pang please?
As you wish! archive.org/details/may-pang-interview-on-4-f-04-03-23
I really like May she's very smart, kind and she was beautiful when she was young and she still looks very attractive. But John Lennon is a great example of how we are not naturally fixed to be a certain way as females or males, he went from being a psychologically messed up drunk very young guy who hit his girl friends (not wives though,Cynthia Lennon said he only hit her twice before they were married) and got into fist fights with men. But he changed 180% into a pro-feminist, and then also a nurturing house husband and father in just a few short years.
I have a wordpress blog, John Lennon Became A Feminist & Nurturing House Husband & Father Thanks To His Relationship With Yoko Ono
includes all of links to the pro-feminist interviews with John through the years that I posted on my blog
In the January 1971 interview with Red Mole John says that Yoko was well into liberation before he met her and that she had to fight her way through a man's world and he said the art world is completely dominated by men and said so Yoko was full of revolutionary zeal when they met.
Then John said there was never any question about it that they had to have a 50-50 relationship or there was no relationship and he said he was quick to learn and he said that Yoko did an article in Nova more than two years back in which she said Woman is the Ni**er of the world.A year later he co-wrote with Yoko the song Woman Is The N*gger of The World,and bravely performed it live on The Dick Cavett show and at Madison Square Garden in 1972 and the song was banned off a lot of radio stations.John also says in this same interview that it's very subtle how you're taught male superiority.
There is also a great interview with John Lennon and Yoko Ono at The St.Regis Hotel in September 1971. And Yoko was asked if she knew about what really went on during The Beatles tours,and she says she had thought that he's an artist I'm sure he has had a few affairs, and she said she was really shocked and she said Oh God! when John told her the whole story about what he called all of the raving that went on their tours,Yoko said she had never heard the word groupie before.And Yoko was no innocent either,John was her third husband,she had a daughter with her second husband,and she had quite a few affairs and even abortions in the 1960's.
He also said in this interview that he treated Yoko the same as other men, he found himself being a chauvinist pig with her,then I started thinking,well if I said that to Paul or asked Paul to do that or George or Ringo they'd tell me to f*** off and then you realize you have this attitude toward women that is just insane! Then John said it's beyond belief the way we're brought up to think of women.
He said much the same things minus the F word when he and Yoko were co-hosting the Mike Douglas show in January 1972 after Mike Douglas asked Yoko if John's attitude towards her had changed because of the women's movement ,and at first Yoko who was always a feminist who rejected sexist gender roles and gender stereotypes, said John's attitude was the same as when they first met but John was honest enough to say,No I was a chauvinist, I was chauvinist,then he said to Yoko can I just say what you taught me? John then said in this September 1971 interview,And I had to keep saying,well would I tell a guy to do that?
Would I say that to a guy? Would a guy take that? He then said,Then I started to get nervous, I thought, f*ck I better treat her right or she's going to go, no friend's going to stick around for this treatment. John also said,It took me a long time to get used to it,any woman I could shout down,most of my arguments used to be a question of who could shout the loudest. Normally I could win whether I was right or wrong,especially if the argument was with a woman,they'd just give in but she didn't.She'd go on,and on, and on until I understood it,then I had to treat her with respect.
There is also a Yoko Ono and John Lennon June 1973 radio interview about how feminism has changed John for the better,he says he learned how to cook,& that most men don't do it, & how most women are brought up not to know how to work tape recorders or fix their bikes,most men are brought up not knowing how to cook or take care of themselves.
The interviewer Danny Schechter asked John if besides sharing work,if John had been going through his own changes about his own role,about his relationship to Yoko,to other women,and to other men,and John said,it's completely changed it's been a process of about 4 or 5 years,John said it was like having 1 eye shut and that once you start acknowledging that women are oppressed slaves you can never go back . John was the only man to attend the first international feminist conference when this interview took place. Two years later when he & Yoko's son Sean was born John became a househusband,changed Sean's diapers,cooked & Yoko worked in their business office
In a great chapter from a 2016 book,Concerning Consequences:Studies In art,Destruction And Trauma by Kristine Stiles discusses how John Lennon became a feminist because of Yoko Ono and how he changed the way he was socially conditioned into gender definitions and they both went against gender roles and stereotypes and he doesn't really get credit for this,and Yoko doesn't get credit in John's feminism and liberation.
Yoko Ono also said in a 1986 interview where she's quoted in this book, John wasn't really macho he was a sweet sensitive person but he had been conditioned by society and she said he was a real feminist and he read a lot of books about it.
In Part 3 Of John Lennon's Last Radio Interview just hours before he was tragically killed by the crazy horrible fan who had been a big Beatles fan since he was 11 and John had been his favorite Beatle,and he shot John 5 times right in front of Yoko,and just hours after John was nice enough to take the time to autograph a copy of his new album,and years later he said he met and shook hands with John's then 5 year old son Sean just two days before he killed John and he said he was the cutest little boy he ever saw and that it never occurred to him that he would never see his father ever again.
DECEMBER 8,1980,
He Said That He's more Of a Feminist now than When he sang woman is the N***er Of The World,that he was intellectually a feminist then but now he's at least put his body where his mouth was and really try to live up to his own preaching. He was referring to the fact that he and Yoko reversed gender roles and he became a nurturing house husband and father to Yoko and their son Sean for the first 5 years of Sean's life until he died.
Barbara Graystark of Newsweek interviewed John September 1980 and part of what she said to John is,You've come a long way from the man who wrote at 23,''Women should be obscene rather than heard.'' And she asks John how did this happen? And John said that he was a working-class macho guy who was used to being served and Yoko didn't buy that.
John then said that from the day he met Yoko,she demanded equal time,equal space,equal rights.He said that he said to Yoko then,don't expect him to change in any way and don't impinge on his space.John said that Yoko said to him then she can't be here because there's no space where you are everything revolves around him and that she can't breath in that atmosphere. John then says in this interview that he's thankful to her for the ( meaning feminist) education.
There is a great Article,In Defense Of John Lennon And Yoko Ono's Woman Is The Ni**er Of The World By Joe Raiola He so rightly says that John Lennon made an unlikely remarkable journey evolving from a misogynist, to a feminist, to a house husband.
And Joe also so rightly said that John actually modeled the journey that countless American men need to make. John and Yoko weren't opposites at all, they were actually a lot alike and that's why they had such a great relationship.John said on the Mike Douglas show when he and Yoko co-hosted it for a week in January-February 1972,that he and Yoko's minds and ideas were so similar,and that they were very similar in their heads,and he said it was incredible that they were so much alike even though they had very different upbringings and environments.
Being a feminist is not a good thing. Men are supposed to be the leader of their households.
John himself felt he'd had a "lost weekend", Period. Even with all the accomplishments, the old friends, etc., John still felt lost without Yoko. So the term should indeed be used and respected, as it was John's assessment of his own feelings as only he could feel them. Not May's, not the producer's, not the fans' nor anyone else's.
Lost Weekend is a very famous Billy Wilder film about an alcoholic who spends his time well, drinking. John called it his last weekend because for most of the time he was in California, he was constantly drinking and doing cocaine with Ringo, Nilsson and Keith Moon. It has nothing to do with “feeling lost”. Towards the end he did sober up and made Walls and Bridges.
People who have controlling, narcissistic partners often feel lost without them. Ask any psychologist. Throughout her relationship with John, Yoko showed all the signs of being the classic narcissist. That's just a fact.
@@Chinachik So what, if John was happy? Can't you just let it be already? And what would a psychologist think of internet commenters who won't live and let live, spending so much time bashing Yoko some 50+ years already?
@@cactaceous I know all about Ray Milland in THE LOST WEEKEND. I am a movie buff and I've seen it, and I completely understand why John used that reference. All the same,
Lennon did say he couldn't survive without Yoko and felt completely lost without her- in addition to all the alcoholism and coke, etc.
@@MeanMrMayo It's not bashing Yoko to state that she was a controlling person and a narcissist. Everyone knew it and she likely recognized those traits in herself. I do live and let live, no one's harassing Yoko. She couldn't care less what I say on RUclips. And contrary to what you seem to believe, I've spent very little time and energy on her over the past 50 years. Probably a lot less than you have.
Fred Seaman’s take on the entire period from 1978-80 has been vindicated over time
I'm renting this this weekend. John should have stayed with May!
May is a nice lady. John was happier with yoko. Hate to say it but May pang was office staff. A secretary. A relationship of convenience She was nowhere near johns intellectual and spiritual equal. John Lennon was bored with May and ran back to yoko happily and willingly.
May Pang greatest gal for JL. pity Yo put black magik on him. When he was dead he was found to be malnourished and underweight. YO treated John like filth 😮. She projected onto him hiw she was treated. Her artwork? Crap.😅
all true but I would even say that in his last months he was clearly emaciated while among the living. I believe he would have split with Yoko eventually and hopefully gained back his health. I believe he was on the road to that.
She is really milking it about this year and a half, fifty years ago. She must be making money out of these interviews. Another Cynthia, who never stopped milking her connection with John for all she could get out of it.
So yoko ripped john off actually shes rotten to the core
@@chezzachezza7325 Yeah, he was surrounded by women who tried to make money and fame out of his name. May, Cynthia and Yoko all cashed in on his famous name. Cynthia married another three times after John, and insisted on calling herself Lennon to be on TV chat shows, and have articles and books published. No-one would have heard of Yoko without John's name.
You don't know what you're talking about. Hey yoko fanboy, gfy . 😅
@@treasurehunteruk9718 he left them with nothing. He treated them abysmally. He OWED them.
How can you mrons say anything bad about Cynthia and Julian ?
Go enjoy Yoko's fake art. Lol
Cynthia and Julian we’re screwed badly by John! Also because everyone knows it was the brainwashing influence of Yoko over John!
JOHN AND MAY MADE A GREAT COUPLE... MAY UNDERSTOOD JOHN.. I WISH THEY NEVER PARTED... BUT JOHN NEVER COULD GO ON WITHOUT ONO.. BUT SHE WAS NOT FOR HIM.. JUST MY OPINION....ALWAYS LOVE JOHN AND MAY💖💖💖💖💖🇨🇦