I really respect this take. It makes great sense. I may ditch it someday, but currently, I find it easier to explain it to ignorant people inherently see it as cheating. I point out the "ethical" component to highlight that it is not cheating because the communication factor of it makes it ethical. To your comparison of not having to qualify monogamy as ethical, people rarely use the term monogamy when referring to monogamous relationships as that is the "status quo". I see most people hear nonmonogamy and their "status quo" understanding of nonmonogamy is cheating. Great points you've made nonetheless. You get a sub from me.
Replace ethical with selfish, sprinkle in some narcissism and lack of empathy/respect. You all should just accept the fact that you cant maintain a relationship, and get bored by people too easily. This is why divorce rates keep rising and birth rates keep dropping.
Help me understand how a mutually consensual and intentional non-monogamous relationship structure equates to selfishness, narcissism, and lack of empathy and respect.
@LaurenConsul because it is the pursuit of self-interest. Dating and relationships used to be how humans formed families and grew communities. Idk how you can even claim it's anything more than friends with benefits. It's not a relationship. It's a sexual escapade, and you have no focus on your "partner's" needs. You are essentially telling the other person to fulfill their needs with others. That's not a partnership to me. Sex is literally how we reproduce, and children are much better off in homes with both parents. Children require dedication and commitment, which are 2 things ENM people lack. If I wanted multiple partners, I wouldn't be calling any of them relationships. I certainly wouldn't marry just for financial reasons or cohabitate with someone merely because I've had sex with them. If you don't want children or marriage, then don't get into a relationship. Tell them your intentions without all these silly ass labels. You are either with someone or you are not. It's that simple. Sharing a place of residence just makes you roommates, not partners. Dating others shows no commitment, which defeats the purpose of a partnership entirely. Call it what you will. You all are fucked in the head.
@@LaurenConsul what is the ethical aspect of juggling more than one partner? It just sounds like the person engaging in it selfishly just wants all their wants and needs fulfilled by more than one person.
Very well articulated. Thanks for sharing! :-)
You're welcome!
Good points.
Glad it was helpful!
Exactly right
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ENM = Future cat lady . Chad's support your views on being easy. Nobodies gonna wife you up.
That's a good point. Sometimes, I feel like i have to say it.
I really respect this take. It makes great sense. I may ditch it someday, but currently, I find it easier to explain it to ignorant people inherently see it as cheating. I point out the "ethical" component to highlight that it is not cheating because the communication factor of it makes it ethical. To your comparison of not having to qualify monogamy as ethical, people rarely use the term monogamy when referring to monogamous relationships as that is the "status quo". I see most people hear nonmonogamy and their "status quo" understanding of nonmonogamy is cheating. Great points you've made nonetheless. You get a sub from me.
look at all these people who can't separate a concept from someone who hurt them 🤦🏻♂️
Replace ethical with selfish, sprinkle in some narcissism and lack of empathy/respect. You all should just accept the fact that you cant maintain a relationship, and get bored by people too easily. This is why divorce rates keep rising and birth rates keep dropping.
Help me understand how a mutually consensual and intentional non-monogamous relationship structure equates to selfishness, narcissism, and lack of empathy and respect.
@LaurenConsul because it is the pursuit of self-interest. Dating and relationships used to be how humans formed families and grew communities. Idk how you can even claim it's anything more than friends with benefits. It's not a relationship. It's a sexual escapade, and you have no focus on your "partner's" needs. You are essentially telling the other person to fulfill their needs with others. That's not a partnership to me. Sex is literally how we reproduce, and children are much better off in homes with both parents. Children require dedication and commitment, which are 2 things ENM people lack. If I wanted multiple partners, I wouldn't be calling any of them relationships. I certainly wouldn't marry just for financial reasons or cohabitate with someone merely because I've had sex with them. If you don't want children or marriage, then don't get into a relationship. Tell them your intentions without all these silly ass labels. You are either with someone or you are not. It's that simple. Sharing a place of residence just makes you roommates, not partners. Dating others shows no commitment, which defeats the purpose of a partnership entirely. Call it what you will. You all are fucked in the head.
Cheating say it.....cowards to say
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There's nothing ethical about it
Why is there nothing ethical about it?
@@LaurenConsul what is the ethical aspect of juggling more than one partner? It just sounds like the person engaging in it selfishly just wants all their wants and needs fulfilled by more than one person.
@@madambutterfly1997 If everyone is consenting and agreeing to it, how is it being selfish?
@@madambutterfly1997 please answer her. I wanna know 😂
@@jaredhicks1370 they're just projecting their idea of what they think it is lol
Makes sense, you already ditched the moral way of forming relationships, why not ditch the supposed attempts at being ethical outside of monogamy too?
Whose morals are you using to judge the formation of a relationship?