i watched several training video from usa firefighters. ALLWAYS FLUSH THE HYdrant. to clear inside from debries or other things and verify it's working.
at 1:41 it was said NOT TO FLUSH THE HYDRANT. why would you not flush your hydrants when the is a fire??? we should ensure the hydrant is operational and that if there was items inadvertently or purposely put into the hydrant that they are flushed especially at a working incident.
This is what I was thinking. ALWAYS flush your hydrant, especially if it was a live fire. The extra 30 seconds it takes to flush the hydrant is well worth it when you flush needles and beer bottles out of the hydrant. Wouldn't want that going through the pump....
How many times have y’all seen needles and beer bottles in a hydrant? That’s been found in standpipe/FDC connections where people are likely to be standing close to a building, yes; in the steamer of a hydrant.... not so much. We test our own hydrants at work; hundreds of hydrants tested throughout the city over the course of many years and I’ve never heard of anything other than a little rust/murky water being found. Test if you want to a working fire, but i definitely would not disagree with this MPO’s statement in the video and I’d say this was made specifically for his department as a training film for the “new” valve. Follow department guidelines is a good suggestion. If someone finds a beer bottle in the steamer please let me know. That’d be EXTREMELY rare. These days people don’t look up from their phones long enough to mess with a hydrant. Hah. I’ve had college kids break equipment that the water department had connected to the plug, but that’s it.
Good video, thanks. What is the name of the valve on the hydrant? I am doing an article on an ancient 4 way valve from Baltimore and could use background on other valves. Thanks
Not flushing is stupid because you can learn about the hydrants current conditioning, and keeping things in the off position just adds an unnecessary step
Doc Hawk flushing is an added step too; that just my opinion. It can be argued either way. We test all of our own hydrants yearly - and it’s a lot of them, and I’ve not noted anything that’d cause a problem at a fire. So, I’m a fan of no flush, and connect with the valve in the open position. The valve manufacturer references off as an “emergency shut off”.
KosukiFire there is a brass ball inside with holes in it that control flow; as well as a 50lb spring clapper that keep the intake side closed when not in boost mode.
Really informative but it seems like a lot of work and complexity to supply one line. Wouldn't a five inch into engineer's intake and five inch out the officer's discharge do the same thing?
It is meant for use when the two engines do not arrive and set-up at the same time. First-in engine forward lays from the hydrant using the 4-way valve. If the pressure in that supply line needs to be boosted later, a second in can come in and connect as shown to booster pressure to the first-in engine without shutting the hydrant down.
I guess I don’t understand the question. What do you mean? “Another department get water from the hydrant”? If the “other department” is there to boost it won’t be an issue as long as they have 5” Storz connections and appropriate hose.
i watched several training video from usa firefighters. ALLWAYS FLUSH THE HYdrant. to clear inside from debries or other things and verify it's working.
good video it helped us sell the assist valve concept on long supply line lays
Dont forget to mention that dressing the hydrant out completely with two 3 inch lines maximizes your water supply.
Great vid. Thanks!
at 1:41 it was said NOT TO FLUSH THE HYDRANT. why would you not flush your hydrants when the is a fire???
we should ensure the hydrant is operational and that if there was items inadvertently or purposely put into the hydrant that they are flushed especially at a working incident.
This is what I was thinking. ALWAYS flush your hydrant, especially if it was a live fire. The extra 30 seconds it takes to flush the hydrant is well worth it when you flush needles and beer bottles out of the hydrant. Wouldn't want that going through the pump....
How many times have y’all seen needles and beer bottles in a hydrant? That’s been found in standpipe/FDC connections where people are likely to be standing close to a building, yes; in the steamer of a hydrant.... not so much. We test our own hydrants at work; hundreds of hydrants tested throughout the city over the course of many years and I’ve never heard of anything other than a little rust/murky water being found. Test if you want to a working fire, but i definitely would not disagree with this MPO’s statement in the video and I’d say this was made specifically for his department as a training film for the “new” valve. Follow department guidelines is a good suggestion. If someone finds a beer bottle in the steamer please let me know. That’d be EXTREMELY rare. These days people don’t look up from their phones long enough to mess with a hydrant. Hah. I’ve had college kids break equipment that the water department had connected to the plug, but that’s it.
Hydrasist was created before the Humat valve; so, Hydrasist is the old valve. lol
First minute of this video i was wondering why he was doing this next to an airport. Then i realized i had a jet starting playing in another video.
😂
Good video, thanks. What is the name of the valve on the hydrant? I am doing an article on an ancient 4 way valve from Baltimore and could use background on other valves. Thanks
Looks like an easy way to water hammer your mains right out of the ground.
Not flushing is stupid because you can learn about the hydrants current conditioning, and keeping things in the off position just adds an unnecessary step
Doc Hawk flushing is an added step too; that just my opinion. It can be argued either way. We test all of our own hydrants yearly - and it’s a lot of them, and I’ve not noted anything that’d cause a problem at a fire. So, I’m a fan of no flush, and connect with the valve in the open position. The valve manufacturer references off as an “emergency shut off”.
Why don’t you use a manifold with 4 valves on it? Way more easy to use and to connect.
These things are a bitch when catching a hydrant.
How did you close the other 2 gates?
KosukiFire there is a brass ball inside with holes in it that control flow; as well as a 50lb spring clapper that keep the intake side closed when not in boost mode.
Really informative but it seems like a lot of work and complexity to supply one line. Wouldn't a five inch into engineer's intake and five inch out the officer's discharge do the same thing?
It is meant for use when the two engines do not arrive and set-up at the same time. First-in engine forward lays from the hydrant using the 4-way valve. If the pressure in that supply line needs to be boosted later, a second in can come in and connect as shown to booster pressure to the first-in engine without shutting the hydrant down.
can another fire department get water from the same hydrant
Yea
I guess I don’t understand the question. What do you mean? “Another department get water from the hydrant”? If the “other department” is there to boost it won’t be an issue as long as they have 5” Storz connections and appropriate hose.