Art, awesome video as usual. I have to say I NEVER heard my Mac Studio fan until just now. Your hearing must be way better than mine. I had to put my ear right up to the back. If I moved my ear more than 6 inches away, I could not hear it. Also felt the cool air coming out the back for the first time.
I also bought the $4000 base M1 Ultra Studio. It's an awesome machine. I never actually noticed any noise coming from mine until you had mentioned it so I shut down my windows tower PC and listened near the studio and I do hear the whirling of air as you mention. Now that I have heard it I am more in tune to it, however with any slight ambient noise in the room it goes completely unnoticed.
True, in normal use it just blends in but during my filming, oh boy I do notice it. But then I am so used to my 16" MBP M1 that does not make any sound. :D
The system tend to run at around 1300 RPM range, it could slow down and still keep the system cool but I don't really feel the need to manage this manually like I have done in the past. It is something to consider, just have to remember if you do this then you have to come in and bump the fan up when you are doing heavy processing tasks so the computer does not heat up.
Thank you for the suggestion, I am aware of the programs that modify the fan speed with condition and etc. For daily use I am able to stick the machine under the table and it is ok. So I'll leave it be.
My problem is that the studios are actually noisier than my mac pro 2019. i don’t do video editing, and only use to development, and under high cpu load (not xcode) the studio sounds like a mi-24 taking off. the mac pro is under 22db, the studio is breaks 40. it has two small and high speed fans (2x1400 rpm and higher) , and the mac pro has 800 rpm fans that are synced to avoid vibration.
Thanks, I moved from a Mac Pro 2010 (2.4GHz 8-core, 96GB of RAM, with an NVMe boot drive, plus 4 hard drives, an RX580, a 2 port USB-C card, and a 7 port USB-A 3.0 card...basically, been maxing this thing out for years) to a Mac Studio (M1 Max, with upgraded 64GB RAM, 1GB SSD), with a stack of RAIDs and hubs to make up for the lac of expansion. Goin to watch your PCIe chases video next, but I'll probably skip buying one of those. I do love the performance of the Studio, but I really would have preferred for Apple to have moved to the M1 last year, so I could get a 2019 used for a reasonable price. I do love how you throw a lot Apple Silicon without it using hardly any real power.
Thank you for the clear video! I wish you years of enjoyment with your Max Studio… Can you think of any reason to keep the Mac Pro? Is there any app or workflow you’ve found where it is still relevant?
For me no, I want to get rid of my Mac Pro while it is still worth something, somewhat substantial and not loosing its value any more than it has so far. That is the one main issue with really expensive Apple computer, they don't retained value well at all. You just loose so much in resale.
@@ArtIsRight Macs hold their video very well, much better than the competition. The Trashcan Macs are still selling for outrageous prices. Your Mac Pro has the problem of being replaced with totally new processors that kick the living Shiste out of Intel.
That is one way of looking at it. Another way to look at this is as a business expense that can be written off and then sold off. So is it a loss, yes but if one runs their business with the machine, it is loss relative to income, time saved and write off. Each one is going to be different but I hear you. Then not every one own Mac Pro either.
Yeah, but let’s not forget Apple (any manufacturer for that matter) still need to support and makes parts available for a couple of years after they discounting a product. So not a total lost.
Im sure they have, and the official support time frame is generally 7 years from the discontinuation date, using California de facto law as a standard.
Art - If I found an incredible deal on an 8-core base model of the 7,1 MacPro, I would buy it to set up a server. Yes, it might be over kill, but I would use an 580x GPU, and make use of every PCie slot I could for SSD mail server, storage or background processing. Connected with a 10Gbt home network, I think it would be far less of a clutter than a MacMini M1 configured as a server with lots of physically connect drives, or hubs. Yes, I understand the power usage, but I think the convenience overtakes that.
@J.D. Floyd That is a way of going about it. Talking about power consumption to pro or power uses is one of those conversation points that don't usually come up. If you are getting a Mac Pro you know what you are getting into.
Hello :) Thank you for your awesome Videos! Are the 65gb of RAM enough for you? I have a Canon R5 and the 2019 Intel MacBook Pro with 64 gb RAM and the Istat menue says In some Cases I have a usage from round about ~50% Greetings
50% is border line, if you are going to get a M1Max MBP either 14 or 16" that is the max that you can do. For my Mac Studio with M1 Ultra, I have the Apple Preconfigured model with 64GB and that is tight. Under normal usage I am usually at 98% of real memory used. Pressure is usually around 30%, but when I start to work on all of my projects, that shoots up to 70-80% really quickly. So for me I would be considering more memory. But then I am also crazy with tabs in Safari and Chrome. I have too many, and if I tamp down on that I can probably bring the memory usage down a bit. But this is how I use my computer and resources, I know what I need and the question is, why should I change what I do to accommodate the system when I can just order a system with more RAM. So hope this help you out a bit. For me ideally I should choose the 128GB spec. But I'm waiting to see what Apple has for the upcoming MacPro before I made any move. :D
@@ArtIsRight ok Thank you for your quick reply :) Then I will buy the Studio with 128gb RAM in 2 months 🙈 It‘s a big price jump :) Greetings from Austria
I know once you start to add things up, the price goes up quickly. If you do keep your machine for a long them I would say it is worth it. Also, unless you know and have absolute need for it don't go with the 64GPU Ultra, not many apps can use all those GPU.
I hope the new Mac Pro is not disappointing and do not limiting and what you can upgraded even if they make a computer that's like $10,000 and you can't do anyting change everything that will be pretty bad unless it the performances so incredible that you don't really care lol
It would be so ironic if the Apple Silicon MacPro is upgradeable from Intel MacPro by swapping motherboards 😆 It is totally conceivable to me that it can happen. There's nothing wrong with the case, power supply, fans, etc ... just the motherboard/ram needs to be replaced with Apple Silicon equivalents. Likely to be DDR4/5 RAM slots, MPXv2 slots (PCIe4/5). The SoC will contain CPU/GPU/RAM, but I think there will be off SoC RAM/GPU support.
Yes that would be awesome, but the sad part is that it won't be user serviceable :( and the peg to mount the board on the chassis won't be the same, so ergo, a new machine purchase is required.
I have an imac pro 2017 10 xeon and 64GB RAM w/ Vega 64 16GB. So you think I would see significant speed increases in photoshop specifically going to mac studio ultra? Does adobe even work with apple silicon well? I watched your benchmarks and they seem better but I mean I would need to be able to edit massive 6-8GB .psb files with hundreds of layers. I heard that 3D programs like blender and UE5 kinda suck with mac studio. I would like to do 3D work too in the future so I'm pretty nervous to upgrade for over 4K$
I only have the M1 max but it sucks in Blender and UE5 for me. Amazing at video editing though. Not too sure about complicated Photoshop files… After Effects quickly slowed down for me as soon as the project started to be complicated. Just my opinion: with your machine would not make the switch just yet as long as you are okay right now.
It all depends, this is where you would have to look at the cycle where you are at with your machine. If it is time to update then it is probably a good idea to get the studio. If it not cycle yet then just wait. If you use this machine for your business, then sure it is $4K but it is a write off over the next 5 years and your iMac Pro is already pass write off for taxes if you got it in 2017. Also if you think about it, you can sell your iMac Pro on the second hard market while it is worth something, so you are not really paying $4K per say. I would not trade it into Apple, however, you loose so much value with them. As far as Adobe Program, they work well with Apple Silicon and better with every update release. Some components of the program still runs on Rosetta but that is not bad, this is where it would perform like your intel. Anything else would be much faster. I mean the Ultra in LRC, which is the program that I used a lot beats out the latest Mac Pro 12 cores which is faster than the 10 core iMac Pro. So anyway you go is a gained. As far as 3D, yes it sucks right now, sure but like everything, in time, and by the time you are ready for it, there would be updates that optimized the programs for the new Mac. It is not like you need this new machine to perform 100% well in 3D right now. So you have a lot of over head room. One more thing for editing massive 6-8 GB PSB yes these machines are going to be much snappier!
@@wytsekoetse2059 just updated, so you made a good point. But reviews were praising it even before the update and i was a bit disappointed. Anyways - give it time and it will be amazing. I just think by the time the optimization is really awesome, there might be a new generation like m2. So waiting another year or two wouldn’t be the worst idea ever.
It may be silent but you are mistaken about the fan not spinning up, it is usually hovering at about 1200-1400 RPM in ideal. You can check using various app it is running all the time. Without it the chip would burn or shut off to limit damage.
@@ArtIsRight I meant never spin up above idle which is as you say 1200-1500 rpm. Of course the fans are always spinning but you can’t hear them at idle speeds and if they have ever got faster when I’m doing any intensive work I still can’t hear them and there is no noise in my office.
$10,000+ down the drain no one in their right mind will spend more than a couple thousand on that Mac Pro. RUclipsr MKBHD said he spent $42,000 on his Mac Pro and he didn’t sell it on eBay, instead he traded into apple who gave him … wait for it … $4700. $42000 to receive only $4700 in return. What a waste.
It all depends, some would still buy the used pro at the right price. But I never recommend trading into apple, you just lose 80-90% of the value right away. Better off just selling it used, you'll get more. I understand the dichotomy that you think it is a waste, on one hand I feel that way too, on the other, I see it as a business expense and write off so prospective matters but it is really a wasted generation machine in many senses. Now some one who does pro audio will look for these machines compared to what is on the market now. Most pro audio suites aren't fully on board with M1 yet.
@@ArtIsRight I agree with you completely. He tried listing his Mac Pro for more than $5,000 on eBay but couldn't due to certain issues. But given that the M1 Ultra outperforms the 2019 Mac Pro in most if not all tasks at a fraction of the cost, who in their right mind is going to purchase it for more than a few thousand bucks? I'd like to think that would-be Mac Pro purchasers are savvy enough to know that the 2019 is now a bad deal and that the money would be better spent on a Mac Studio or put towards a 2022 Mac Pro (if it is indeed released this year). Just to level-set expectations going in, if I had a Mac Pro, I wouldn't expect anyone to buy it from me for more than a few thousand bucks, if at all.
Compared to iMac Pro yes, but other Macs that I mentioned no. And as silence as you might say it is, it is hovering around 40-45 db in a quiet normal room, non anechoic chamber.
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@@ArtIsRight still weird to me, I've put a meter at the back (10 cm) under normal use, and I'm getting 35 dB in my normal room with fans running @1330, which is audible if you get close but definitely silent. 40-45 would be a very different thing indeed, but I'm not getting that
Can I assume that everyone connects their systems to a UPS? I need a new one before my new Mac studio and display will be here. Can anyone tell me their suggestion of how big UPS I'll need? Thanks!
These machine consumes so little power that anything from Costco such as the cyber power 1500VS will do. With just the Mac studio alone you are probably going to get about 40 min with it. If you have a current UPS already, I would look into replacing the internal battery with LifePo4, Lithium Ion Polymer, it last about the same but does not have the power drop off characteristic like the lead acid battery that these ships with. Meaning that if the UPS tell you that 30 min remains you are going to get really closer to that, and not a cut off at 15 min in. This said, everything is on SSD, I don't have mine on UPS, there are no spinning drives, so it does not matter much. Also I have my machine back up to my Nas daily so if anything happens, it won't take that much time to get everything up and running again.
Great video. Thank you for your hard work. My question is, What's going to happen to PCI cards? Are they going to become obsolete? where they only for acceleration / optimization? Are they even needed anymore? Thanks again. Blessings.
For photo, video, graphic design, not so much, but for Audio at the high end it is still need and I think that the Macpro will sill have that option for PCIe when it release.
Some notice it, some don't, the fan just sounds the same across all tested machine. Environmental factor, how quiet your environment is, plays a role as well.
I have simple solution to my issues with M1 - going back to my Windows workstation.... After over 15 months of switching out hubs/dongles and OS upgrades crashing my daily driver Mac mini M1 with 16GB RAM and 1TB storage, I am to the point now where I could care less about Apple Silicon. It's a walled off garden that may be high performance, but it's not stable and I don't think it will be for a long time. Intel Hardware is a known quantity - it has it's cons but at least it works and it works very well... Even though I still use for now an iPhone, 11" iPad Pro and Apple Watch I am saying I gave the Apple Desktop a long term try and the outcome for me is buh bye Apple Desktop and the donglefest that is unreliable....
Interesting, I have been using Apple Silicon for sometime now, I understand the bugs but never had a crash like that. From what I have seen in my testing it is not so much the hardware that is causing issues but the software. macOS QA has gone down terribly with these yearly release cycle. You may run into issues with apple silicon but I have run into similar issues with intel, 2019 MBP, all data in 1 partition gone because of Mac OS update. Mac Pro, can't log into account system prohibited because macOS conflicts with file vault. I have more instances too, so the issue that you are facing is more related to software from apple in general rather than Apple Silicon from my observation.
good advice on ways to configure your system for fastest availability. I did the same thing I purchasing the Studio Display with standard options. I can always bring it into the Genius Bar to switch out for the height-adjustable accessory.
Thank you Art for all these very informative and helpful videos. You voice is also relaxing while listening.
Thank you.
Art, awesome video as usual. I have to say I NEVER heard my Mac Studio fan until just now. Your hearing must be way better than mine. I had to put my ear right up to the back. If I moved my ear more than 6 inches away, I could not hear it. Also felt the cool air coming out the back for the first time.
It just happens that my studio environment is really quiet so I hear everything. Good and bad in a way.
I also bought the $4000 base M1 Ultra Studio. It's an awesome machine. I never actually noticed any noise coming from mine until you had mentioned it so I shut down my windows tower PC and listened near the studio and I do hear the whirling of air as you mention. Now that I have heard it I am more in tune to it, however with any slight ambient noise in the room it goes completely unnoticed.
True, in normal use it just blends in but during my filming, oh boy I do notice it. But then I am so used to my 16" MBP M1 that does not make any sound. :D
@@ArtIsRight I wonder if apple could idle the fans at a lower RPM or if they are already at there limits of the low end.
The system tend to run at around 1300 RPM range, it could slow down and still keep the system cool but I don't really feel the need to manage this manually like I have done in the past. It is something to consider, just have to remember if you do this then you have to come in and bump the fan up when you are doing heavy processing tasks so the computer does not heat up.
@@ArtIsRight you can use TG Pro and program at what temps the fan should turn up. Setup in 5min.
Thank you for the suggestion, I am aware of the programs that modify the fan speed with condition and etc. For daily use I am able to stick the machine under the table and it is ok. So I'll leave it be.
straight to the point. Great video
Thanks!
My problem is that the studios are actually noisier than my mac pro 2019. i don’t do video editing, and only use to development, and under high cpu load (not xcode) the studio sounds like a mi-24 taking off. the mac pro is under 22db, the studio is breaks 40. it has two small and high speed fans (2x1400 rpm and higher) , and the mac pro has 800 rpm fans that are synced to avoid vibration.
I hear you, that I what I have mentioned in the video as well. We'll be to see what apple does with the Mac Pro.
Thanks, I moved from a Mac Pro 2010 (2.4GHz 8-core, 96GB of RAM, with an NVMe boot drive, plus 4 hard drives, an RX580, a 2 port USB-C card, and a 7 port USB-A 3.0 card...basically, been maxing this thing out for years) to a Mac Studio (M1 Max, with upgraded 64GB RAM, 1GB SSD), with a stack of RAIDs and hubs to make up for the lac of expansion. Goin to watch your PCIe chases video next, but I'll probably skip buying one of those. I do love the performance of the Studio, but I really would have preferred for Apple to have moved to the M1 last year, so I could get a 2019 used for a reasonable price. I do love how you throw a lot Apple Silicon without it using hardly any real power.
Thank you!
One of the best reviewers. Amazing work.
Appreciate that
Thank you! Your explanation is very good!
You are welcome!
Insightful comparison! 👍
Thanks! 👍
June: MacPro M1 Extreme, Studio Display Pro / XDR
That is the word. Studio display Pro / XDR will be similar to the Studio Display that I outlined, same issue just much more expensive.
Thank you for the clear video! I wish you years of enjoyment with your Max Studio…
Can you think of any reason to keep the Mac Pro? Is there any app or workflow you’ve found where it is still relevant?
For me no, I want to get rid of my Mac Pro while it is still worth something, somewhat substantial and not loosing its value any more than it has so far. That is the one main issue with really expensive Apple computer, they don't retained value well at all. You just loose so much in resale.
@@ArtIsRight Macs hold their video very well, much better than the competition. The Trashcan Macs are still selling for outrageous prices. Your Mac Pro has the problem of being replaced with totally new processors that kick the living Shiste out of Intel.
I feel sorry for those that invested thousands on these machines back in 2019 and on… The Intel MacPro line won’t be around much longer.
That is one way of looking at it. Another way to look at this is as a business expense that can be written off and then sold off. So is it a loss, yes but if one runs their business with the machine, it is loss relative to income, time saved and write off. Each one is going to be different but I hear you. Then not every one own Mac Pro either.
Yeah, but let’s not forget Apple (any manufacturer for that matter) still need to support and makes parts available for a couple of years after they discounting a product. So not a total lost.
I expect that by today they’ve already paid themselves.
Im sure they have, and the official support time frame is generally 7 years from the discontinuation date, using California de facto law as a standard.
Art - If I found an incredible deal on an 8-core base model of the 7,1 MacPro, I would buy it to set up a server. Yes, it might be over kill, but I would use an 580x GPU, and make use of every PCie slot I could for SSD mail server, storage or background processing. Connected with a 10Gbt home network, I think it would be far less of a clutter than a MacMini M1 configured as a server with lots of physically connect drives, or hubs. Yes, I understand the power usage, but I think the convenience overtakes that.
@@Alperic27 - plenty of deals on the horizon.
@J.D. Floyd That is a way of going about it. Talking about power consumption to pro or power uses is one of those conversation points that don't usually come up. If you are getting a Mac Pro you know what you are getting into.
I use an OWC thunderbolt external case to house my OWC 4m2 NVME raid card (which was previously in my 2012 cMP).
A video on that is coming soon, but the solution is similar! Compensate well for the smaller internal storage.
Hello :)
Thank you for your awesome Videos!
Are the 65gb of RAM enough for you?
I have a Canon R5 and the 2019 Intel MacBook Pro with 64 gb RAM and the Istat menue says In some Cases I have a usage from round about ~50%
Greetings
50% is border line, if you are going to get a M1Max MBP either 14 or 16" that is the max that you can do.
For my Mac Studio with M1 Ultra, I have the Apple Preconfigured model with 64GB and that is tight. Under normal usage I am usually at 98% of real memory used. Pressure is usually around 30%, but when I start to work on all of my projects, that shoots up to 70-80% really quickly. So for me I would be considering more memory. But then I am also crazy with tabs in Safari and Chrome. I have too many, and if I tamp down on that I can probably bring the memory usage down a bit. But this is how I use my computer and resources, I know what I need and the question is, why should I change what I do to accommodate the system when I can just order a system with more RAM. So hope this help you out a bit. For me ideally I should choose the 128GB spec. But I'm waiting to see what Apple has for the upcoming MacPro before I made any move. :D
@@ArtIsRight ok Thank you for your quick reply :)
Then I will buy the Studio with 128gb RAM in 2 months 🙈
It‘s a big price jump :)
Greetings from Austria
I know once you start to add things up, the price goes up quickly. If you do keep your machine for a long them I would say it is worth it. Also, unless you know and have absolute need for it don't go with the 64GPU Ultra, not many apps can use all those GPU.
@@ArtIsRight yes I „only“ take the 48 gpu Version with 128gb RAM and 2 TB SSD :)
I think it‘s enough for me :)
Can I use my iMac (2019) as a monitor with the apple studio.
as it no, you can gut it and make it into a display
I hope the new Mac Pro is not disappointing and do not limiting and what you can upgraded even if they make a computer that's like $10,000 and you can't do anyting change everything that will be pretty bad unless it the performances so incredible that you don't really care lol
It is one of those balancing act we shall have to see. I might be really content with the Mac studio and say meh to the Mac Pro as well :D
It would be so ironic if the Apple Silicon MacPro is upgradeable from Intel MacPro by swapping motherboards 😆
It is totally conceivable to me that it can happen.
There's nothing wrong with the case, power supply, fans, etc ... just the motherboard/ram needs to be replaced with Apple Silicon equivalents.
Likely to be DDR4/5 RAM slots, MPXv2 slots (PCIe4/5).
The SoC will contain CPU/GPU/RAM, but I think there will be off SoC RAM/GPU support.
Yes that would be awesome, but the sad part is that it won't be user serviceable :( and the peg to mount the board on the chassis won't be the same, so ergo, a new machine purchase is required.
I have bought the mac studio and cannot connect it to Benqsw270c either with usb-c or hdmi cable, nosignal detected. What is wrong?
Use USB C and do this ruclips.net/video/u7XD7s5xs1k/видео.html
I have an imac pro 2017 10 xeon and 64GB RAM w/ Vega 64 16GB. So you think I would see significant speed increases in photoshop specifically going to mac studio ultra? Does adobe even work with apple silicon well? I watched your benchmarks and they seem better but I mean I would need to be able to edit massive 6-8GB .psb files with hundreds of layers. I heard that 3D programs like blender and UE5 kinda suck with mac studio. I would like to do 3D work too in the future so I'm pretty nervous to upgrade for over 4K$
I only have the M1 max but it sucks in Blender and UE5 for me. Amazing at video editing though. Not too sure about complicated Photoshop files… After Effects quickly slowed down for me as soon as the project started to be complicated. Just my opinion: with your machine would not make the switch just yet as long as you are okay right now.
It all depends, this is where you would have to look at the cycle where you are at with your machine. If it is time to update then it is probably a good idea to get the studio. If it not cycle yet then just wait. If you use this machine for your business, then sure it is $4K but it is a write off over the next 5 years and your iMac Pro is already pass write off for taxes if you got it in 2017. Also if you think about it, you can sell your iMac Pro on the second hard market while it is worth something, so you are not really paying $4K per say. I would not trade it into Apple, however, you loose so much value with them. As far as Adobe Program, they work well with Apple Silicon and better with every update release. Some components of the program still runs on Rosetta but that is not bad, this is where it would perform like your intel. Anything else would be much faster. I mean the Ultra in LRC, which is the program that I used a lot beats out the latest Mac Pro 12 cores which is faster than the 10 core iMac Pro. So anyway you go is a gained. As far as 3D, yes it sucks right now, sure but like everything, in time, and by the time you are ready for it, there would be updates that optimized the programs for the new Mac. It is not like you need this new machine to perform 100% well in 3D right now. So you have a lot of over head room. One more thing for editing massive 6-8 GB PSB yes these machines are going to be much snappier!
@@carlo_oppermann Are you working on the latest version of Ae? It just got optimized.
@@wytsekoetse2059 just updated, so you made a good point. But reviews were praising it even before the update and i was a bit disappointed. Anyways - give it time and it will be amazing. I just think by the time the optimization is really awesome, there might be a new generation like m2. So waiting another year or two wouldn’t be the worst idea ever.
my new studio ultra is silent? the fans never spin up no matter what I'm doing.
It may be silent but you are mistaken about the fan not spinning up, it is usually hovering at about 1200-1400 RPM in ideal. You can check using various app it is running all the time. Without it the chip would burn or shut off to limit damage.
@@ArtIsRight I meant never spin up above idle which is as you say 1200-1500 rpm. Of course the fans are always spinning but you can’t hear them at idle speeds and if they have ever got faster when I’m doing any intensive work I still can’t hear them and there is no noise in my office.
Got it, yes it is hard to ramp up the fan on these Mac :)
$10,000+ down the drain no one in their right mind will spend more than a couple thousand on that Mac Pro. RUclipsr MKBHD said he spent $42,000 on his Mac Pro and he didn’t sell it on eBay, instead he traded into apple who gave him … wait for it … $4700. $42000 to receive only $4700 in return. What a waste.
It all depends, some would still buy the used pro at the right price. But I never recommend trading into apple, you just lose 80-90% of the value right away. Better off just selling it used, you'll get more. I understand the dichotomy that you think it is a waste, on one hand I feel that way too, on the other, I see it as a business expense and write off so prospective matters but it is really a wasted generation machine in many senses. Now some one who does pro audio will look for these machines compared to what is on the market now. Most pro audio suites aren't fully on board with M1 yet.
@@ArtIsRight I agree with you completely. He tried listing his Mac Pro for more than $5,000 on eBay but couldn't due to certain issues. But given that the M1 Ultra outperforms the 2019 Mac Pro in most if not all tasks at a fraction of the cost, who in their right mind is going to purchase it for more than a few thousand bucks? I'd like to think that would-be Mac Pro purchasers are savvy enough to know that the 2019 is now a bad deal and that the money would be better spent on a Mac Studio or put towards a 2022 Mac Pro (if it is indeed released this year). Just to level-set expectations going in, if I had a Mac Pro, I wouldn't expect anyone to buy it from me for more than a few thousand bucks, if at all.
I'm with you.
hm I don't hear my Mac Studio Max at all
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weird thing, the fan on my studio ultra is extremely silent, much better than my former iMac Pro or any other machine I have
Compared to iMac Pro yes, but other Macs that I mentioned no. And as silence as you might say it is, it is hovering around 40-45 db in a quiet normal room, non anechoic chamber.
@@ArtIsRight still weird to me, I've put a meter at the back (10 cm) under normal use, and I'm getting 35 dB in my normal room with fans running @1330, which is audible if you get close but definitely silent. 40-45 would be a very different thing indeed, but I'm not getting that
Distance of measurement and instrument matter as well. Not enough for me to worry about really.
Can I assume that everyone connects their systems to a UPS? I need a new one before my new Mac studio and display will be here. Can anyone tell me their suggestion of how big UPS I'll need? Thanks!
These machine consumes so little power that anything from Costco such as the cyber power 1500VS will do. With just the Mac studio alone you are probably going to get about 40 min with it. If you have a current UPS already, I would look into replacing the internal battery with LifePo4, Lithium Ion Polymer, it last about the same but does not have the power drop off characteristic like the lead acid battery that these ships with. Meaning that if the UPS tell you that 30 min remains you are going to get really closer to that, and not a cut off at 15 min in. This said, everything is on SSD, I don't have mine on UPS, there are no spinning drives, so it does not matter much. Also I have my machine back up to my Nas daily so if anything happens, it won't take that much time to get everything up and running again.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the reply. I couldn't imagine ever not using a UPS, for cleaner power if nothing else.
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Great video. Thank you for your hard work. My question is, What's going to happen to PCI cards? Are they going to become obsolete? where they only for acceleration / optimization? Are they even needed anymore?
Thanks again.
Blessings.
For photo, video, graphic design, not so much, but for Audio at the high end it is still need and I think that the Macpro will sill have that option for PCIe when it release.
I don't hear the fan on my Studio at all.
Some notice it, some don't, the fan just sounds the same across all tested machine. Environmental factor, how quiet your environment is, plays a role as well.
I have simple solution to my issues with M1 - going back to my Windows workstation.... After over 15 months of switching out hubs/dongles and OS upgrades crashing my daily driver Mac mini M1 with 16GB RAM and 1TB storage, I am to the point now where I could care less about Apple Silicon. It's a walled off garden that may be high performance, but it's not stable and I don't think it will be for a long time. Intel Hardware is a known quantity - it has it's cons but at least it works and it works very well... Even though I still use for now an iPhone, 11" iPad Pro and Apple Watch I am saying I gave the Apple Desktop a long term try and the outcome for me is buh bye Apple Desktop and the donglefest that is unreliable....
Interesting, I have been using Apple Silicon for sometime now, I understand the bugs but never had a crash like that. From what I have seen in my testing it is not so much the hardware that is causing issues but the software. macOS QA has gone down terribly with these yearly release cycle. You may run into issues with apple silicon but I have run into similar issues with intel, 2019 MBP, all data in 1 partition gone because of Mac OS update. Mac Pro, can't log into account system prohibited because macOS conflicts with file vault. I have more instances too, so the issue that you are facing is more related to software from apple in general rather than Apple Silicon from my observation.
good advice on ways to configure your system for fastest availability. I did the same thing I purchasing the Studio Display with standard options. I can always bring it into the Genius Bar to switch out for the height-adjustable accessory.
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