Mac Studio M1 Ultra | How I Migrated My Home Studio
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- I bought a Mac Studio M1 Ultra! Now I need to migrate my home recording studio from my old Apple 2013 Mac Pro. How smooth did it go?
Gear I use and essentials!
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The time has come to get a new computer. My Apple Mac Pro 2013 Trash can has seen better days and it's time to migrate my Home Studio to the new Mac Studio With the M1 Ultra Chip! But will everything work? I've got my DAW and editing software, tons of plugins and utilities. And I've got my DAW Controllers, Keyboard Controllers, Audio Interfaces and other accessories that all need to work. I show you what I did, what's working and things to think about if you plan on getting a Mac Studio.
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Index
00:00 Video Start
00:43 New Computer!
01:41 DAW and Video Editing
03:27 Audio Interfaces
05:18 Controllers
06:21 Plugins
07:35 Thunderbolt Dock
08:37 Migration Thoughts
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Davinci Resolve is great! They are really quick with software and support!
I've been using Avid for so long that I was afraid to change. But only 2 days into editing with it I absolutely love it! I did upgrade to Studio and I'm moving forward with it. We should compare notes once I get into it...
Holy Moly, White Sea is hanging out in the cheap seats with us pens!
thanx man, helpful, love from across the pond.
Awesome! And truly my pleasure! Cheers from Canada!
Thank you for sharing this my brother. 🎶
My pleasure! Happy to share...
Great video, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you! I have a base Mac Studio and I'm building out my recording studio, this was very helpful!
Awesome! Glad to help!!
Dude, what a great video! I will receive my Studio Ultra same config in a few days, so this was amazingly helpful. Waves is a non-issue for me as well...I stopped using them years ago. Ozone 9 and RX7 are fantastic tools. I also use Gullfoss and Baby Audio Smooth operator. A lot. The rest is mostly the Logic standard plugs. For video, I use FCPX and Motion. Thank you again for making this video! 🎸
Awesome! thanks so much!!! Congrats on the new box!! Hope you really enjoy it and thanks for your thoughts...
Very nice vid, I've been considering this process this year. So very helpful that you went down this road first.
Thanks! So glad you found this helpful. If there is enough interest I'd be happy to do a follow up after I've spent some time with the new setup.
@@LonelyRocker I think you should do another video a month from now to provide an update.
Thanks man for the video I like it it’s well explained
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this. Very helpful.
My pleasure. Thanks for checking it out!
Good dock insight - Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video!
You are so welcome!
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!!! I AM ABOUT TO BUY A MAC STUDIO ULTRA, BECAUSE MY MAC PRO IS 12 YEARS OLD, AND BECOMING ASTHMATIC. I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PLUGINS AND INTERFACES, ETC, AND YOURS IS THE FIRST VIDEO I HAVE SEEN THAT IS DOWN TO EARTH FOR A COMPOSER. GREAT VIDEO!!!!
Thank you so so much! Glad you found this helpful. I know there are so many more variables but I wanted to at least share my experiences in the hopes some would find it useful. One tip: Run both machines side by side and ease things over while keeping the old machine functional. That helped me a lot. Good luck!!! And Enjoy.....
@@LonelyRocker That is my plan - in fact, on my Mac Pro I have the TC Electronics POCO card that has excellent plug-ins that I haven't been able to use because they didn't update their drivers. I have a PT 003, and an MBox Pro. I will revert back to a system on the Mac Pro which enables the POCO, and use that for recording and then send that session to the Mac Studio for mixing when I update all my plug-ins.
You are awesome !
I want to thank you,
because I’ve been in hell for over six hours trying to figure out how to connect my Focusrite Clarett 8 pre-X!
I’ve contacted Focusrite,and they just point me to their articles on Monterey and silicone-based Mac systems which is very frustrating.
You were the only one that wanted to detail about how to do this. Again I thank you so much and I subscribed your channel.
Awesome! Glad I was able to help you with that. Nothing like a real user sharing their experience. And glad to have you here! Cheers!
I subbed and liked also ya the waves issue is silly but I did it and and no regrets only issue now is actually getting my hands on a studio wait times are up to middle of July
Awesome thank you! I'm able to hold off on Waves because I rarely use them anymore anyways. They are in the category of nice to have. Maybe I'll revive them one day. I ordered mine on the first day and it showed up a week early. Guess there is quite a demand now and likely supply challenges. Hope you get yours soon!
Go Davinci!
So far so good!!!
Thanks for the great video- I am on a similar journey. I’ve edited on Avid for over 25 years and hit the wall when I bought a Sony FX3. Avid couldn’t handle it on my Mac Pro trash can- not to mention the terribly limited graphics with the newer releases. I tried Premiere for a few months but kept running into basic start up problems and crashes. I’m now loving Resolve on my M1 IMac. I’ve ordered the Mac Studio- I won’t get it for another month. But I think you’ll enjoy Resolve.
A rare fellow Avid user ;) I am fully migrated to Resolve now and not looking back. Media Composer suddenly feels so ancient. I have theories why avid is always behind...I think it has something to do with their code. It feels like they have adapted "old" code over the years instead of architecting new solutions for modern systems. Lots of patchwork solutions. Just my theory. Enjoy your Mac Studio when you get it!
Great vid Dan , as far as the Waves problem I plan to ditch them for the reasons you gave in the vid all in all it seems like the migration went pretty smoothly so no real scare stories here .If you have to change to Da-Vinci don't worry it's pretty intuitive especially to someone like me who has only recently got into video production, you'll be flying in no time
I'm already flying on Davinci! Two videos into it now and not looking back! Yeah, Waves...get me started!!! ;)
Very helpful thanks, Dan. I'm just starting a build on a wee studio in Scotland and migration is one of the issues I've yet to face - Macbook Pro early 2015 to M1 Ultra.
My pleasure. Glad you found this helpful. I think the slow, parallel migration path is the least painful and let’s you phase out the old machine. Has worked well for me so far. Good luck with yours!
I decided years ago to stop doing business with Waves. There are just so many options out there. I just upgraded from a 2015 i7 iMac to a Mac Studio Max. Most everything is working for me as well. Had to do the same thing for my UA Apollo you had to do with the Focusrite. Thanks for the video!
So many great options now I suspect I won'y miss any of the plugins....Enjoy your new box!!! And thanks for your thoughts!
Thanks so much for the great video. I’m in the same boat with my home studio right now. I have spent thousands of dollars on Waves plug-ins and will have to upgrade them as well if I want to keep using them with a new Apple M1.
Cheers from Vancouver Island. 😀🇨🇦
My pleasure!! Good luck with your migration. I decided to walk away from Waves. I have thrived on the other side! Cheers from Toronto!
I am thinking of going from an Intel MacBook Pro running Ventura 13.1 to getting a M1 Ultra Studio. Looks like I will have to a fresh install of all my Studio drivers and software. I have Waves Mercury but also over 100 plugs of UA. I was able to use Waves on Monterrey that previously installed on Catalina although not officially working with Monterrey. Once I upgraded to Ventura my millions of Wave plugs do not authorize. Good old WUP for $240 needed. I actually use UA plugs with my Apollo X interfaces 95% of the time. The price tag of the M1 Ultra Studio is actually a very fair price for what you are getting. Besides forking over the money I am dreading reinstalling everything. Over the years I have grown my studio and it is going to be an adventure. Great video.
Thanks! Sounds like you are in a similar boat as I was. Running the old and new machines side by side made it much easier. I slowly phased out the old machine but kept it setup for when I needed the odd thing. Was pretty painless. And I have survived the Waves purge. I'm not going to lie, I miss some of their plugins but I have plenty of other great ones and my mixes have not suffered at all...
Wow. What a lot of work to migrate all your software over. I hope the new Mac's horsepower and speed is worth it! I'm sure you'll let us know. Thanks!
Me too!!!! And the transition continues ;)
I recently switched to the Mac Studio. Of course Waves didn't work, but I contacted them and got switched over, no charge. Maybe it was the relatively recent purchase.... but all plugins updated. Thanks for this vid.
My pleasure...glad you got it all sorted!
Just upgraded from a cheese grater to a Mac Studio. The Studio is awesome. Biggest issues were a MIDI/USB issue which MOTU fixed w/ a beta driver update. Second issue was my older version of my DAW used SD2 audio files. All of them were corrupted in the migration. Had to fix the resource header. What a PITA. Bonus... I ditched UAD plugins. No more expensive dongles.
Enjoy it! The minor casualties we experienced are akin to spring cleaning. We are better for it ;)
Thanks a bunch for posting this video. I'm considering my upgrade plan as I have an old 2010 cheese-grater Mac (using Logic) that has been upgraded to it maximum over the years. I have a bunch of Waves plug-ins and really bummed about their upgrade practices. Sound Toy plug-ins were just recently upgraded to support M1 and it looks like they are not charging for an upgrade. Even though I have many waves plug-ins I find I'm only using a handful as I have actually went back to using more of the native Logic plugins. And I've always wanted FabFilter so I think I might be waving bye-bye to Waves (pun intended). And if I'm only using a handful of Waves that I really like, maybe I'll just buy licences for the few I want; that is when they are M1 compatible. And BTW: I use DaVinci Resolve free version - works great.
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed this. Yeah, it's unfortunate about Waves. It's purely a cash grab. I didn't know that was the deal when I first got in. Guess you need to read the fine print. Too many great alternatives that don't do this. And sadly, even if you upgrade a few it may cost you almost as much as the whole thing. Good luck with your decision on upgrading!
I gave up on waves along time ago because of that same issue I already bought the plug-ins I went to do an update and they told me I had to pay 200 and something dollars for it.
Now I’m going through the same thing with UAD.
I have a firewire satellite quad core.
According to UAD they won’t support that.
I’ve spent thousands of dollars not including the thousand dollar firewire satellite.
We’re looking at about probably $4000 I spent on their plug-ins and also the fire wire satellite.
Very frustrating very aggravating. But I will say this video helped me out a lot because I am going from a 2013 trashcan to a new M1 max studio.
I have a lot of the same plug-ins that you do I’m glad to see that they work.
Are used Logic Pro X as well.
Love logic glad that there are no issues with that I know it is an Apple product but so I’ve had issues in the past.
I’m going from Catalina to Monterey.
Hopefully there won’t be any problems.
Thank you again.
Sorry to hear about the challenges but glad I could offer some perspective. Digital products are not forever. It’s just how it is. Best we know and plan for it. Good luck with your migration.
I'm glad you're not in a rush to give Waves any money for now. I'm certain you can do without them. We the creators decide who we pay or do not want to Pay to.
Thx for sharing the experiences. Avid? Davinci Resolve is really an improvement. I have to test Prosonus 192 the next week. I'm hopeful.
My pleasure! I'm a seasoned Avid guy from my broadcast days but liking Resolve so far! Good luck with your tests...
uuummm yeah... thats what I'm dealing with now. 0:48 I left well enough alone for about ooooohhh 15 YEARS! My Digi 003 (yes... lol) finally gave out a couple months ago, I blame my two year old for constantly hitting all the buttons and turning knobs lol. My two 11 year old iMacs are still kicking. But now i'm like uuuggghhhh I don't have a recording setup anymore and don't want to spend the money on it.
I struggled with that for almost 2 years. I make my living with this computer so had to make a jump and ordered the Mac Studio the day it launched. It's been about 7 months and it has been a good machine and has really sped things up here. But I'm sure I'll be bitching again in about 2 years ;)
7:24 you can actually force setup Waves plugins if you click continue and it will probably work fine
I actually talked about that in my update to this video. It’s linked in the description if you want to check it out. Cheers!
Re Wave Plugins - Also moved from Mac Pro (late 2013) to Mac Studio. All of my Wave plugins V14, V13, V12 and even one V11 work. They didn't; however, until I uninstalled the Wave licenses from the old Mac Pro.
The more recent ones BETTER WORK!!! Don't get me started ;-)
I did same move same config Mac studio except I’m using the switch to aggressively reduce years & hundreds of plugins down to ONLY developers doing native Apple silicon support - it forces a creative constraint but everything runs like a champ in the DAWs & Resolve
I think it's the only way...and less is more for sure. I'm actually enjoying the lighter load pf plugins. I can actually find stuff!! ;)
If you’re having issues loading Pro Tools and its stuck loading plugins, you gotta remove all third party plugins, and allow it to open stock, then quit and add plugins back in batches of about 200 and let them scan repeatedly on startup until you have them all in there
Nice, I have the same Focusrite.
Great interface!
Great video! Let's hear more about M1 Ultra performance! :-P
Thanks! I didn’t want to do the standard “benchmarking” video as there is so many out there but I can do a follow up in a few weeks once I’ve got some work under my belt on it.
@@LonelyRocker That'd be awesome, because 95% of the videos out there right now about the M1 Ultra is in relation to graphics/video performance and rendering ... I'm still on the fence myself between M1 Ultra and Max, with all the statements about the Max being more than enough for most. But on the other hand, if you deal with somewhat larger setups with heaps of virtual instruments (which I often do), then a solid CPU overhead makes sense, especially if this machine is gonna last 5, maybe even 10 years ;-) My current and dying Mac Pro 4,1 is on year 13, 11 of them with me
Here's my tip. 1. Spend within your means. 2. The M1 Max is more than enough to handle audio production. 3. Pushing the upgrades or going to the Ultra MAY future proof it a bit more. If you have a few extra bucks, consider the upgrades now because you can't add them later. If not, see point #1 :-)
For pro tools to fix that all you need to do is watch and read what plug in it crashes on. Move that plug into the unused folder and start up again. Mine wouldn’t work because every Izotope plug-in caused ProTools to crash on the new platform.
Yes. That’s been mentioned. Too much work for just a demo 😝😝😝
This is the most useful Mac studio video I have seen. I use windows at the minute but I am thinking of getting a Mac studio. I use studio one and have a presonus studiolive 32 Moog sub 37 Moog sub Phatty Minibrut 2 DeepMind 12 Digitakt Digitone Drumbrut TR 8s etc. etc. As you can see a load of USB. Studio one is supposedly Mac silicon compatible. What do you think. Have you been happy with the transfer any advice. Thanks
Awesome...thanks so much. I'm really happy I moved. Some small kinks along the way but overall I'm way ahead of where Iw as on my alst machine. I'm planning on doing an update to talk about how things are going so stay tuned for that!
So when you migrated everything over to the new Mac, how did you transfer all your plugins over properly to work with existing projects? Any hiccups? Do you have a step by step process on how to go about doing the is for each plug-in maker? Thanks! Liked and subbed to you!
Eric
Thanks Eric! I guess I whizzed through that part. I had both machines setup in parallel and slowly installed everything manually referencing what was on my old machine. I think, no matter what, there will be casualties if you are upgrading from a much older Mac. So if you have ongoing projects you may need to run two machines until you flush out the old issues. I don't think there is anyway. As I'm bailing on Waves, some older projects would have to be updated if I ever recisited them. Thanks for the Sub!!
Hello! Great video!, quick question, performance wise, the latency on the USB, Thunderbolt Audio Interface have changed? better?, and a point I've seen is that the main problem is the ULTRA chip, not the rest of the M1, I'll be getting the MAX version because of that, Thanks!
Thank you! I have the Ultra chip and I'm having no issues with latency at all. I can't imagine the Max version would be better...likely the same....
my guy needs to upgrade to final cut pro + UAD audio interfaces.. my recommendation..
Ha. I’m deep into DaVinci Resolve now and the Focusrite is still going strong 😜
I finished yesterday my migration to your exact same Ultra configuration. My Daw is Ableton and everything was not looking too good with the plugins until I right click on the Ableton and choose Open with Rosetta. Its crazy…..even working with Rosetta 2 my projects, it use only 20% of the CPU when with my old top specs MacPro 2013 it was impossible without freezing tracks. And while playing, the fan of the Ultra is relax like drinking a margarita by the side of the pool. I had to pay yesterday $50 to Waves so I could open old projects that I didn’t want to loose. I also do animation and run a company related with the film industry. I don’t know any other software company with such and aggressive marketing and monetization strategy. Waves…yesterday was the last $50 that I pay you as a ransom for kidnapping my projects
Glad your migration is coming along. The Waves ransom. That’s a new one! 😂😂😂
Hi Adrian. Did you do a clean installation for Ableton and your plugins? Or did you use Time Machine or Migration Assistant?
Did you use migration assistant for any of this or were setting up everything manually?
I did it manually. Didn't want to copy over my issues. I still have the old machine running so I can move things over as I need them...
Avid Media Composer ? wow, they used to be the king of video. I had not heard from them in a long time
Ha. I think I was the last holdout 😂😂😂
Great video, very informative! I had the same issue with Waves several years back when I upgraded my OS and the plugins stopped working and they wanted to charge me again for plugins I already owned? It was at that time I swore off Waves.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, I had been weening myself off of Waves for a while in anticipation of this. It's ridiculous. So many great alternatives out there...not sure how long they can keep doing this....
And Waves wonders why so many people pirate their plugins…. They punish the people who buy them with that stupid update plan BS
VERY VERY good point...
This is one of the reasons why I want to get rid of all my Waves plugins.... It's stupendous having to pay everytime for an insignificant update... But for some reason I keep using the CLA-2A and the SSL stuff
This is the point. We have the right to choose. But if there is something we like, we may be compelled to pay the price. It’s a lesson on life! 😝😝
Great vid and a great channel. I have my Mac Studio arriving in a few weeks and was wondering what 32" or 34" monitor you think might pair well with the Mac Studio? I still thing that the Apple monitor is way overpriced for what your getting even though it looks nice. Cheers!
Thanks so much! And enjoy yours. I have a 40 inch 4K Dell monitor and a smaller 2k viewsonic. Lots of monitors out there. I chose monitors that were rated good for video editing. If you are just doing music that is less important.
@@LonelyRocker Thanks mate! Looks like it's time to do some research and also looking forward to more of your content, it's so informative...
@@chrisflabouris6140 very much appreciated! Write again!
what if you could run vmware and instal 12.0 on vmware and then avid on that vm and then copy the files including the invisible files and application support files to the 12.3 machine.
or use time machine to backup the install on vmware and then restore to the 12.3 system
you could also try disabling sip and install 12.0 on an external drive and do everything from an external drive.
it may also be a security thing so disabling sip may allow you to install if it is attempting to install to the parts of the system being protected by sip.
Way too complicated my friend. My software needs to run natively, no exceptions. I made the move to Resolve and very happy now that I did...
Also remember that the Mac Studio Tbolt ports have a controller for each port. So you are getting full 40gig bandwidth per port. So if you have some devices that don't need that much bandwidth, you can get a hub with additional TB ports for expansion.
I covered this in the video. Guess you didn’t get that far 😂
@@LonelyRocker Yes, I got that far.
JJajajaja tenía mucho tiempo de no escuchar nada de Avid :)
Great video, unfortunately you probably missed a couple of recent deals by Waves to update the WUP for about $150-$180 , but that tells me that you probably don't use them that much so it's not a big deal. Many plugins like McDSP, or some of PA are charging $30 to $90 PER PLUGIN for the updates, so I don't see Waves being the worst company. It's a fair price to keep your stuff running on these ever changing OS and processor architectures. It's like a client asking you for revisions of his last 3 albums after 2 years, do you charge for the hours/days you spend working on the songs again? But great video, I got the same exact machine coming and I can't wait to hook it up!
Hey thanks for your thoughts and input. And enjoy your new machine. I JUST did a whole video on this plugin licensing topic. It clarifies my views on all of this. Check it out! Do You EVER Really Own YOUR Audio Plugins?
ruclips.net/video/ht0xNo0Qy0A/видео.html
Is the Mac studio appropriate for Recording vocals in the Same room? Or is it to Loud?
It's a pretty quiet computer but there is some airflow. It gets louder when you push it hard. The computer is small enough that you could easily muffle it by covering it somehow. thick blanket maybe just when recording....
Waves 🤦🏻♂️ … Thank you for sharing
My pleasure....Thanks for watching!
Picking my Mac Studio this week. Question is…coming from a iMac m1, will it be easy to move my sample libraries and plugins to the Mac Studio? Most of my libraries are on ssd’s, thank you
Should be straight forward...just do the migration and hook up you SSDs to the new mac and point to them in your DAW when you need them...good luck!
@@LonelyRocker Thank you
Thanks for this. Did you deactivate your iLok plugs before migrating?
My pleasure. I only have an online iLOK. No physical dongle. So I just signed in on the new machine and validated my plugins. I don't have a lot that use iLOK...thankfully ;)
@@LonelyRocker Appreciate the response. Ahead of my migration I checked with iLok and they were clear that plugin's must be deactivated from the old machine and reactivated on the new one for them to work again. And without doing that yours are all fine.
Thanks for this. Good vid. Question for the ignorant (me) who’s just getting started in video editing and trying to decide what editor to go with…. what about final cut pro as a Resolve alternative? Have you looked at that; any particular reason you ruled it out?
My pleasure and thanks! I actually used Final Cut for years. I didn't like it when they moved to the latest GUI with the X release but it's a good piece of software and is well loved in the creator community. Actually, the timeline in Resolve reminds me of the old FCP. The basic version of Resolve is free and the full up version goes places that FCP doesn't. But for pure editing you can't go wrong with FCP either. I chose Resolve because it offers so much and can grow with me. Hope that helps!
@@LonelyRocker Great to know. That helps. Thanks!
Another good reason for ditching waves!
For me, Pro Tools standard crashes if I tried to install to many plugins in one go on Catalina OS on a late 2013. I had to move many of the plugins up to where the crash happened out of the AAX folder, then reintroduce groups of plugins back in until all where installed. A really boring and laborious process, but it is what I had to do.
This seems to be an issue not specific to what you are trying to do….
Thanks for sharing. I’m not a protools guy but wanted to offer that perspective best I could. Sounds like a very frustrating process. Don’t think I’ll be taking that trip😂. Cheers!
Bear in mind that waves do sell their plug-in for peanuts and the upgrade fee is percentage based so bringing everything up to date is the price of one plug in from a rival. Not as bad as Avid, Adobe and Autodesk all of which have dumped. Software that you buy ones with life of the software upgrade is the ways to go. Resolve is like that.
Waves is not cheaper than many other companies. 25 to 30 bucks is becoming standard. I just don’t believe in paying for nothing. New features? 100%. Compliance? That’s just not fair….
After the instal are you about to close back down the kernel access and the audio controller still function?
That’s a good question. I didn’t shut it down. I left it open. Maybe I should close it?
I would as this is how your Mac is protected.
Resolve is great the only thing I dislike is the split from audio and video.
The more I get into it the more I love it. Yes, there are small things that bug me but overall it’s truly great.
Hey Dan, are you having any issues with the m1 ultra and your Qcon’s acting up? My qcon pro x and XS extenders are now doing strange things with my Mac studio m1 max causing freezing at times. After many hours of trial and error testing and contacting Icon audio support, it seems the m1 pro, max and ultra are not playing nice with the hardware. And if doing firmware updates, you have to use an M1 or intel Mac only. These new macs won’t complete upgrades in imap.
I found the usb cable on the Mac studio USB port being the connection issue. When the board freezes in logic, I have to remove the usb cable and plug it back in to the Mac studio and it works again right way, until it freezes again. Very odd. Just wondering if you are experiencing the same issue with the ultra? I’m on Monterey 12.3.1 and Logic Pro 10.7.4.
Sorry you are having issues. I have only used them for light tasks since the migration. So far not having any issues but I’ll dig in deeper and let you know what I experience. I’m considering doing an update to this video.
@@LonelyRocker thanks Dan, after many hours I figured it out. The qCons for some reason will freeze up intermittently when directly connected to the Mac studio by usb. Must be a firmware issue. After a bunch of tests with different cables and trial and error, I happened to plug them in to an OWC thunderbolt dock USB port, then thunderbolt out to thunderbolt port on the Mac studio and they work flawlessly again. Seems the Mac studio cannot handle the Qcons directly on my Mac studio. And I tried both USB ports on Mac studio with the same result. At least I don’t have 3 paperweights on the desk anymore. Phew
Interesting. Thanks for the update. Have you ever considered getting the Icon ONEHub? That has been working great for me... ruclips.net/video/ods5pKt4lxA/видео.html
@@LonelyRocker i did but they are like $300 or so, just to have a hub for icons. I never had issues before the Mac studio, even my m1 mini ram perfect with them. I think it’s the M1 max chip, because both USB ports had the same freezing issue, and I believe they are the same ports on the M1 mini. For some reason, running that usb cable into the OWC TB 4 dock then TB4 out of the dock to the max studio works perfect.
Before they started taking orders, any pro knew that this Mac would not work well for them; what decent studio would use a Clarett interface? Or ANY of the other interfaces you have?
Being a little harsh there bro?
Thanks - go for Final Cut Pro 🙂
My pleasure. A few suggested FCP. I'm a week into Resolve and really enjoying it :)
Might I suggest Final Cut Pro.
It’s M1 native.
Well supported and in the long run cheaper than resolve.
Resolve is only worthwhile when buying da Vinci equipment.
Just my $0.02😎
I actually used to use FCP. I didn't like it after they switched to FCP X. I already upgraded to Resolve and I'm actually REALLY liking it so far. My next episode is being edited on it as we speak ;)
@@LonelyRocker they really have improved FCPX recently, but it’s not for everyone. Resolve is good if you can live with the workflow.
BTW we’ve had the same issue with waves. And some Roland gear also. 2 companies that don’t take after sale care seriously.😎
I enjoyed my time on FCP back in the day. Resolve is offering things that really suits my workflow now so decided to give it a go. Yeah. Some companies like Waves are rooted in old ideas. There are too many great alternatives out there. I think it will cost them a lot of business in the long run.
What about UAD plug-ins?
I don't have any UAD gear but I'm certain they are M1 compliant.
Very helpful. As to WAVES plugins. I'm with you. They made a major blunder with the added cost. Added cost, but no added value? Great opportunity for the other plugin companies. Someone in the bean counting division of WAVES needs some remedial learning in Economics 101 - a la "Opportunity Cost."
Love your analogy! I wrote to Waves support (purposely acting dumb) saying "HEY! My plugins are not working! Not interested in any new features, just want to get the plugins I bought working." I got a can answer saying I "purchased" V9 and V10 plugins and can use them for as long as I want and I'm not obligated to upgrade BUT if I want plugins compatible Monterey I would have to purchase an Update Pan. Not ONE other plugin company is making me pay to remain compatible. You're so right. How long can they keep doing this? Pure cash grab and nothing else. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@LonelyRocker Thanks. That's the MBA part of my brain working and preventing me from using a torrent of vulgar language to reveal my true feeling.......AHAHAHAHAHA.....
I don't know if the version of PT first is the latest. PT 2021.12 is qualified for Monterey as long as the AVID plugins are using the 2022.2 update. Issue was with the plugins.
I downloaded the latest version from Avid Link.
@@LonelyRocker Then it is another plugin that is the problem. I don't know if Pro Tools First has been updated in the last year or not. Everyone else is able to run Monterey with Pro Tools 2021.12
Very interesting video! You didn’t mention any sample libraries in your install process. I use a lot of large orchestral libraries from Spitfire, and I when I order my Ultra, I was thinking of future proofing with 128 GB of RAM. You only mentioned 64GB, so I was wondering whether you think 128GB is actually overkill? Thanks!
Thanks! I don't use a lot of sample libraries myself. Midi and sound files are universal so I would expect any issues. 64GB is likely overkill for music production. I can't think of any instance that would utilize 128GB. Better off putting the money into more internal storage...in my opinion ;)
@@LonelyRocker I agree-- I decided to bite the bullet and maxed out storage--So i went with the Ultra 64 with 8TB. When you look at what a Sabrient 4TB external costs and compared that to the difference between the Mac 4 an 8TB the premium was low for a big gain in speed
@@chicagobob Likely a good move if you use the internal for media. I use external drives for media but that gives you a lot of room!
@@LonelyRocker Appreciate the help! 😊
My pleasure!
Dude if you already use Logic why not move to Final Cut Pro? It'll always be supported on whatever new Mac you buy.
I actually used to use FCP up until they went from version 7 to X. I have committed to Resolve. It's an incredible package with so many features and the pay once, free upgrades model is great. And there is a huge community of users that have been helping me learn it really quickly....
Hi, I'm still unclear. You didn't explain how you migrate from an old machine (late 2013 iMac) to a new (Mac Studio) regarding the different OS. I'm on Catalina, and can't install Monterey into the old iMac, and the Mac Studio I have on order can't install an OS earlier than Monterey. Does some Apple process take all that into account and just move my stuff to the new machine? Thanks
I actually did explain it. I didn't try to copy my old system because there is no point. Instead, I tested all of my gear and software to see what works and installed them one by one.. Catalina is so old. The Mac Studio currently ships with Monterey 12.3 and you can't install anything older on it. So you're best to set up the machines side by side and slowly install your software and gear on the new machine while keeping your old machine functioning for tasks that don't work and then decide what you want to do. I'm abandoning my trusty editing software because it just doesn't work on the new machine. With that big gap in OS's your only real option in my opinion is doing it how I explained it...good luck!
@@LonelyRocker OK thanks for the clarification! I guess a long clean install in in the cards. Unless I can find a bridge machine! LOL
I think it’s the best way. Buy the machine you think will serve you well for years to come and slowly migrate your workflow. It’s not so bad once you jump in. Good luck!
@@LonelyRocker my main resistance is all the audio and video plugins I have to reinstall. Oy vey!
@@ChadWork1
It is a pain, to have fresh install everything and redo all your plugin authorisations. But it’s the best way, especially in this case. If it was just a new Mac with another Intel CPU and newer OS, you could easily get away with using the Migration Tool, I’ve done that before and everything worked fine, but this is a whole new architecture. I’ll be going through the same thing soon when my Studio Max gets here, but it will be worth it in the long run. I’ve also got to update my WUP, but only on a few Waves plugins, I’ll be ditching some.
So what did you use to edit this!?
You are very observant ;) I had both systems working in parallel while I set up the new workflow so I was able to edit this on the Avid on the old machine. I've set up my old computer with the Avid running in my utility room so I can access any things I need there. Spoiler: DaVinci Resolve Studio is purchased and installed on my new system and I will be attempting to edit my next episode on it...stay tuned!
@@LonelyRocker Surprising that Avid has no solution in sight; that has got to be frustrating! I've been trying to build my own studio over the past year, and your channel always provides great comparisons and direction!! Thank you!!!
what's Waves?
:)))))))))))))
Could you not upgrade your Mac Pro to Monterey and then port over to Mac studio so you don’t have to do a fresh install? Although it is nice to do a fresh install and know you have no lingering files and issues from the past 9 years. Waiting for my Mac studio to arrive Monday, can’t wait! You’ll find most plugins work well with M1 at this point, and I agree about waves. It’s ridiculous to have to pay for upgrades. They lost my business for sure
The Mac Pro was not compatible with newer OS's as far as I know and I wanted to keep it frozen in time for secondary tasks. A fresh install just made too much sense for me. I run the computers in parallel and migrate efficiently...Yep...Waves...get me going again on them ;) Good luck with your new box!!
@@LonelyRocker right on! Great vid again and very thorough in the details! Hope you make more vids on the M1 and your workflow. I haven’t had issues with any plugins aside from Slate digital which don’t play nice with M1 yet. Everything else including UA seems to be working great
Thanks again! I do plan to do an update. Lots to learn still and I'm sure some weird things will creep in...stay tuned!!
@@LonelyRocker received my Mac studio the other day yay me! I went pro max with 64gb ram for future proofing. It is a beast! Super fast and snappy and zero noise. I was fortune that i hpreviously did a clean install on my M1 Mac mini back in the fall so I could use the migration assistant with no issues. All except that some plugin licenses were not found on the new machine and I had to go through the hassle of deactivating licenses on the Mac mini so I could register on this unit. Was a few hours of work but nothing terrible. Also UAD spark ceased to work at all. I had to reinstall all the spark plugins I own.
@@citytonightproductions Awesome!! Congrats!! Small hiccups but sounds like you are well on your way!!! Enjoy it!
Pro Tools blows for this exact reason... I always run into compatibility issues with their hardware and software.
I switched all my Avid hardware over to Focusrite and I'm happier for it. No more god forsaken driver issues every time my machine does a simple security update.
100%. In this age, hardware dependant systems are for super high-end studios and nowhere else. It's unnecessary. There's so much power in these machines now, home studios can rock it with a computer and any interface and DAW.
Purging Plugins has become order of the day as far as M1 chip goes
It seems so! Probably for the better 😎
Waves and their WUPs...
Yep....
@ Paying for staying compatible: iZotope is doing something (imo) even worse with Ozone. I'm on Ozone 7, which is enough for me. Now while Ozone 7 itself is compatible with Monterey (it worked on my old system with Monterey), the fn INSTALLER isn't. And iZotope doesn't give a single f. Their support posted a Dropbox (!) link to a newer installer on the forums, but that one doesn't work either. So I'm left to upgrading to Ozone 9. Just because the installer isn't compatible. I mean come on...
This is a tough one. They can only keep so many versions alive. In some cases it's a lack of willingness but in some cases it simply the old code just doesn't work. Applying resources to legacy software becomes a loss leader after a while. It may be more complicated than "just the installer". I'm not defending them but I do know a bit about software development. Sometimes the code just breaks in newer OS's and you just cut your losses and move forward....my 2 cents...
@@LonelyRocker Fair enough. But why is Waves the bad guy then? You pay to get the newest version that’s compatible with the newest OS. I don’t get it, sorry.
Edit: It is the installer. iZotope support has acknowledged that. And the thing ran perfectly fine on my old system on Monterey, but on my new one, it can’t be installed. So yes, it’s only the installer.
@@nicholasbinder5593 Waves is the only company I use that wants me to pay for plugins that will be exactly the same. If you have to update your Izotope stuff you will get a ton of new features for your money. I’m actually making a whole video about this right now.
Davinci resolve rocks
I’m liking it so far!
that's Y I set up my studio with Windows OS. I stell can use 10 years old plugins
You can do that on Mac too. But in both cases, if you update your OS you sometimes have to leave old plugs behind. Progress is not free 😂
Can you please try Ableton
You can easily check with Ableton support and ask if they are supporting M1 and Monterey 12.3.
4:16 I wonder how long Apple is going to allow "user management of kernel extensions" on their precious M1 Macs 🙄
Good question. The way they are buttoning down their machines they may one day restrict access to the keyboard 😂😂😂😂
Waves is shooting themselves in the foot with that pricing scheme. People who honestly paid for thousands of dollars of Waves plugins get irritated at the pricing & just start using the Waves Complete torrents which are easily found. Plus a few plugin developers have bettered Waves offerings.
I guess they do it because they can. I’ve seen people in forums arguing in favour of this policy. I guess if you’re deeply invested you just drink the Kool Aid. I have no problem if you are offered feature upgrades. Like FabFilter does with each release. There is value in the upgrade. But other than re-skinning a few plugins and adding clunky zoomability, Waves has offered very little in terms of value. Who wants their courses? Not me. Way too many great alternatives out there. We’ll see how it goes. Thanks for your insight.
@@LonelyRocker Thank you for the very good M1 Mac software migration. Very useful.
Absolutely my pleasure! Thanks for watching!
10 years ago multiplatinum hit songs are made by old computers and they sound big and powerful so according to those facts nobody need an M1 computer to make hit songs the quality came from the knowledge you have about the technical aspect the signal path the converters and the science behind them the analog and the digital side and how your studio is build every single device count in out next device in out next device in out next device if you screw one step your audio signal will suffer without any chance of recovery not even with izotope RX or whathever plugin it's about understanding the digital logic and computer science and yes it's rocket science
10 years ago more records were produced in big studios with proper engineers who knew what they were doing. Now everyone records at home and what is accepted as “well produced” is quite lower than before. That’s the times sadly!
Waves always been on a Rip off mission.
Sadly I have to agree.
It has 8 USB ports. You mean cuz USB-C? All of them are compatible with USB-C to USB A cables.
You are correct but I have A LOt of peripherals and I'd rather keep the TB4 ports free for Thunderbolt devices. I was just recommending the dock for those who have a lot of standard USB devices and why to avoid regular USB Hubs...
I hear you, but they are USB ports and for those who don't use a lot of Thunderbolt devices it would be good for them to realize those are options. Meaning by saying there are only 2 USB ports some less technical viewers might think they actually only have access to 2 USB ports. Also, unless you are getting the Ultra, the 2 ports on the front will not be Thunderbolt. So in the vast majority of cases there are 4 USB only ports on these.
I hear you...Small detail I overlooked...I assume most who spend that kind of money on a computer will understand all that...but I know some won't ;)
You'd think so, but I think in the arts a lot of people, even those with that kind of money, may not be super technically proficient outside of the space they focus on. Also, I don't think you are trying to do anything but help people, I just want those who don't know not to miss out on all the options they actually do have 😃.
Use final cut
Already deep into Resolve 🤘🏽😎
I just received my Mac Studio and I chose not to do the migration. I just wanted to save myself the headache.
I think that's the best way...enjoy your new box!!!!
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for music production you can use a potato. For real I can use a C2D right now with Pro Tools 8 and be happy
You have a small studio, most likely work by yourself. There's no need to be using AVID Media Composer unless you had a huge team of people that you collaborate with on your projects.
This was as much a migration from mojave to monterey as it was from a trashcan to a mac studio.
Yes...it was quite the change but I'm so glad I finally have a modern system ...I don't crash anymore!! ;)
@@LonelyRocker Just a note, I did a clean install of Monterey (I was stuck on High Sierra for years!) onto my Trashcan and just the update to Monterey alone makes the machine nearly 50-100% faster with none of the old crashes I was getting than it was with the old bogged down High Sierra install. I am going to miss controllermate though (forgot to check that one first) but seemingly all my music software was either compatible or not necessary/easily substitutable. (Oh, well I do have upgrade Digital Performer, but I wanted to do that anyway). I even noticed my old slow 2014 dual-core i5 Mac mini with a hybrid drive suddenly got brisker and no more crashes when I updated from Mojave to Monterey, making it much more usable, so I guess OS updates (and clean installs when possible) can actually improve the machines even. Hope your Studio works out well, I'm drooling--I am resisting adding a sixth supported monitor to my trashcan just in case I finally get the Studio and have to decrease it back to five.
Interesting...though I'm keeping the old machine frozen in time for a couple legacy things I may need to access...and yes, migrating is a game of wins and losses....
@@LonelyRocker Like you I still have my old PowerMac G4 and 2006 Mac Pro. Regarding legacy apps, often my solution is the run the old OS within VMWare Fusion, which can work seemlessly, depending on the app (not great always for external devices though, depending on your planned implementation.). Ironically i still use my Apogee Duet Firework with Monterey. It is interesting how it selectively works fully with some apps and is handicapped with others (but still works well, nevertheless). Again, I am still crying about ControllerMate and have not found a suitable replacement (well, if I was saavy with Max/MSP I could do that way, but I barely have time to get to know that app well.). I should say that for a lot of apps that I used to use for quick and dirty editing (files I don't feel like opening up Digital Performer for) have all been replace with the opensource freeware Audacity now (only because I went down the Linux route on old PCs for fun a few years back, and realized that app works great on its Mac version too.)
Typical Avid They have also tried their best to screw up Sibelius, in their time. Thankfully, i never use any of their products anymore.
Waves is awful for doing this.
I agree. Terrible.
Avid has a poor track record updating their software. I'd go as far as to say they are the worst in the industry and I still can't figure out why they are still in business.
Their business is rooted in broadcast but they have no presence in the creator world. I offered to help them but they fluffed me off. I can’t speak for Pro Tools but I feel like they have been simply patching their media composer code all of these years. It seems they can’t adapt it easily to OS updates while other company’s software just works. I finally got fed up and moved to Davinci. Is what it is....
AVID lost a ton of editors. The older generation still uses Media Composer, but in 10 years they will disappear from the market.
AVID commits suicide. Take many years to them to build a new version working on new hardware.
You know, I have to agree with you. I've been using Avid for so long and that's the only reason I stayed. One day on Resolve and I realized I was long overdue to leave Avid. Their software is ancient...and so are their pricing policies...
I honestly don't see why someone would put themselves through this. Mac is no longer superior for audio, and it's an incredible hassle.
Migrating any system is a hassle but I had to move off the old machine and all of my software is Mac. A PC migration would have been WAY worse. And I actually considered it until the Mac Studio was announced...
Just because it’s ‘not superior’ doesn’t mean they aren’t bloody great computers
@@sgeggbub1008 Well said :)
Pointless. You guys are just losing time and money. None of those make music great.
No, but it makes it faster to make great music ;)