The sales of marvel champions alone and the fact fantasy flight have secured the rights to the xmen have already pretty much guaranteed that luckily. It may take awhile to get there though. :)
YES! X-Men in Marvel Champions is going to be worth the wait... (hopefully some of the existing chars get errata'd to have an X-Men trait if relevant mechanics come along (Quicksilver, etc))
I’ve been playing this game all week and really enjoy it. I find it better than Elder Sign thanks to the unique dice pools and the assist cards. It gives you more strategy instead of just pure luck like Elder Sign. That said, there is one thing that’s unclear. If the showdown is triggered when you complete a story mission, when do assist cards return to the hero? Since you skip the regroup phase at the start of the showdown, assist cards could be stuck with other heroes for the next round.
Assist card makes no difference to placing another PC in the same location (adding extra dice). And I can't see the theme in it. Example Wolverine assist Fastball Special is a signature move between Colossus and himself. Would be better if there are specific assists/combos between specific characters. But in the end its limited to dice pool and rolling.
@@FPchie It does make a difference because you can use their assist special ability which can combo with their own. Lol spending so much time trolling a game you haven't played and somehow still don't like.
@@b.c.eckhoff3495 nah its just that you can't handle criticism from others since you have already bought the game. Or you want me to repeat again, the assist doesn't match with the theme. Its just adding more dice to do your "combos". Glad I didn't waste my money on this even though I love X-men. It is easy customer base like you that FFG is milking money from anyways.
This tutorial seems to imply that an 'Assist' is voluntary. The rulebook however states that the active hero decides wether or not to be assisted. This doesn't seem voluntary. So, which is it? Also, couldn't Storm have assisted Cylops (in this tutorial) when he was the active player, giving him two extra die and an ability? She hasn't assisted anyone this round. Finally, when a Sentinel is discarded is raises Threat by its '!'-ammount and not just by 1, right?
@@sneekiersnek3122 Hiya, thanks for the reply, but I think you understood me wrong. I'm not a native speaker, so that could be the problem. However, these were my remarks: Can an assist be denied (by the Cyclops payer) or does the active player get to decide (in this case the Storm player). In regards to the Sentinel in this video, the comment made when discarding is wrong. If the Sentinel shows two !!'s Threat is raised by two, and not just one. At least, according to the rule-book I have in front of me. Hope this clears things up.
Marvel Champions is (with AH) the best cooperative Cardgame by FFG... X-Men Mutant Insurrection basically is just Yahtzee with a Marvel Skin. Marvel Champions is unique and completely new.
FFG is one of my favorite publishers. When this was announced, I was very underwhelmed. Haven't played it yet, but it's looks very clunky. It also lacks the visual polish that FFG is known for. No minis is also a major let down. Reviews have been mixed so far, but I think I'll have to pass.
I can see there are some interesting things here, but the attempts to tell a story seem kind of diminished by some generic-feeling elements. 1) I strongly dislike cardboard standees vs. miniatures. I understand there's a cost there, but standees feel really cheap. 2) The missions show the continent as their picture. This is unnecessary, as the back of the card already shows which continent it is. It's really hard for me to get interested in a mission when all I have is a generic name and symbols for what dice I need to complete it. As these look like a primary driving point of the game, having these things be so generic is frustrating. 3) The symbols for the dice look so basic. I feel it probably would have been better to have each hero have their own set of dice, each differently colored. I get that you need the mission requirements to be relatively basic so that anyone can accomplish them, but it just feels like this was kind of the minimum effort for mission design. You could have had more than 3 symbols, and each hero would specialize better in their own set of symbols. For extra intrigue, the assistance could be a pair of dice that have extra stripes or something added on to the dice. That will communicate the assistance much more visually. That's just off the top of my head, and I think of this because it doesn't look particularly special to try achieving any of these missions as-is. That said, there are a lot of things to love here, like the deep digs into the wide array of X-Men characters on top of the classic storylines. I'd probably be willing to play it if someone brought it to the table, but this demo did not convince me to purchase it for myself.
Its twin Elder Sign is a much better game than this in terms of aesthetics, components and gameplay. Example you need to remove a dice for every reroll. Give you a more thrill and dread experience. Xmen is more pure Yahtzee game. Graphics is hit and miss. Hate the bland relationship and side mission cards. And whats with standee wolverine weird long claws ?? Also they cut short with limited plastic standee holders. Another lazy franchise cash grab by FFG.
@@b.c.eckhoff3495 fyi I have played the original Elder Signs.. not perfect but to me personally it looks and plays much better than this semi reskin game. at least dice tower reviews dare to point the flaws of this game. And if you read my comments properly, I particularly dislike the graphics on some cards and gameplay, its straightforward point. So pls do some thinking before posting your assumptions on other ppl thoughts.
well I already saw the review of the dice tower and the review of roll for crit as well... will it be the same as elder sign? cuz I hated elder sign - the theme, the unbalanced luck, the hard missions (my butt still hurts everytime I play it and this is not just because of the sitting on the chair part...) I would really really really like to love it but FFG you are just doing the same all over again you took elder sign with a retheme of the x-men and before that you just took LOTR the LCG and rethemed it to marvel champions. well I don't even like the LCG model anymore so I really don't care about marvel champions, again my butt still hurt from elder sign and from LOTR LCG cuz they both have great app but crappy gameplay for me... still need to know about this game for solo since this is the only way I'll play - and no I'm not going to buy marvel champions didn't like it at all
I love Elder Sign and have all its expansions and can definitely say that if you don't like it because of its mechanics and gameplay then you won't like this. I haven't watched any other reviews, so just based on this video it feels like it's about 70% Elder Sign & expansions (mutants and training are basically items and spells, sentinels are basically monsters), 20% a variation on an Elder Sign concept (they changed the way assisting other players works and reroll rules are quite different) and 10% new ideas (bonds). If you just don't like the theme (I totally get that people are tired of games with tentacles) then maybe there's something for you. For me it's too similar to Elder Sign. The later expansions had stories so even that's not completely new. I've also been finding that FFG's artwork and game aesthetics is diverging further and further from what I like. Marvel Champions was a bit meh, I had planned to buy their new Descent until I saw the art style and now this doesn't appeal to me either. But Marvel Champions is insanely popular and seems to appeal to a younger skewing demographic so maybe the only problem is I'm too old ;) I criticise FFG for a lot but I can't blame them for re-skinning an older hit for a new audience. They have to pay those Marvel IP bills somehow. I just wish they'd release more Mansions of Madness or have the balls to tell us it's finished.
Maybe put time and $ into the stuff people like instead of this shit. Will take a lot to get the poor Netrunner and Destiny fans back and this ain't it!
Garbage tier game on par with that crappy Arkham Horror game they released recently. Terrible component quality as well, just FFG trying to get some dollars using the IP. Check out the Dice Tower review if you want to see more.
Garbage reviewers who give a good grade to any company that gives them a promo in their game. Tom Vasel has no idea how balance works and marks games as bad as soon as he can't beat his friends and blames it on luck. Never saw such a group of uninformed gamers. Terrible. Just play what you like instead of listening to sellouts. But yeah, this games looks ... bland, agreed.
@@spiritreacher Sorry maybe read what I said, and then the actual review. You already have a bias against DT obviously, which skews your argument and statement completely. The game looks like crap, as if a 5 year old mashed it together. It is using old mechanics, and is nothing of worth. On top of the component quality. But thanks for proving my point: people will defend stuff no matter what.
@@katarhall3047 No, Im actually here to point out your hypocrisy. You're bashing on it because it looks like "crappy Arkham", then when I go attack Dice Tower, you jump to defend them. I honestly don't care about Marvel games or Dice Tower.. but Im just not a fan of fanboys/girls, or in your case hateboys/girls. But good on you for proving MY point. :) Again: Agree that this game doesn't look like its going to be good and its just the Marvel brand selling it, but there is a more nuanced way of putting it instead of your callous attitude.
@@spiritreacher Wrong bucko there is no hypocrisy. I already DID NOT like the game, since the initial showings of it awhile ago. I mentioned the DT review because it actually highlights the problems with it. Nice try chuckles, you failed hard. Also, notice how you don't try to argue any of the negative statements I MADE about the game? Also I love you restate "crappy Arkham", you realize that is considered the WORST game FFG ever put out, right? You focus SOLELY on the DT review mention, and clearly who your bias against them. LOL Pathetic.
@@katarhall3047 I agreed with you continuously that this Marvel game looks poor.. Also, which Arkham game is the crappy one...? There is Arkham Horror 2e, AH 3e, Eldritch Horror, Mansions of Madness, Elder Sign, The Card Game, Final Hour and I'm pretty sure I'm missing one. Seeing how The Arkham Horror LCG is currently their best selling LCG, if not game AND that you are just blatantly ignoring my comments AND being very condescending, I think I need to conclude that you're either a troll or toxic. So good luck with that attitude in the rest of your life. Hope it works out for you. :) Again: still not buying this game. Still not supporting Dice Tower.
Now, the game has a very interesting mechanisms but not the most interesting theme (at least for me). Wish there was a similar game in a Star Wars universe...
This game is exactly what I've been wanting for a while now and I'm glad to finally have a game that scratches that itch!
Hopefully the sales of this game will be enough for them to produce Xmen for marvel champions
The sales of marvel champions alone and the fact fantasy flight have secured the rights to the xmen have already pretty much guaranteed that luckily. It may take awhile to get there though. :)
Probably a year before X-men appear in champions because the next cycle is guardians stuff.
X-men will get crazy sales.i know they can't wait.
YES!
X-Men in Marvel Champions is going to be worth the wait...
(hopefully some of the existing chars get errata'd to have an X-Men trait if relevant mechanics come along (Quicksilver, etc))
I can't wait for the X-men to join the champions game... I love that game and this game!
Looks like you are using the Elder Sign game mechanic to create a new X men themed game Fantasy Flight.
I’ve been playing this game all week and really enjoy it. I find it better than Elder Sign thanks to the unique dice pools and the assist cards. It gives you more strategy instead of just pure luck like Elder Sign.
That said, there is one thing that’s unclear. If the showdown is triggered when you complete a story mission, when do assist cards return to the hero? Since you skip the regroup phase at the start of the showdown, assist cards could be stuck with other heroes for the next round.
Assist card makes no difference to placing another PC in the same location (adding extra dice). And I can't see the theme in it. Example Wolverine assist Fastball Special is a signature move between Colossus and himself. Would be better if there are specific assists/combos between specific characters. But in the end its limited to dice pool and rolling.
@@FPchie It does make a difference because you can use their assist special ability which can combo with their own. Lol spending so much time trolling a game you haven't played and somehow still don't like.
@@b.c.eckhoff3495 nah its just that you can't handle criticism from others since you have already bought the game. Or you want me to repeat again, the assist doesn't match with the theme. Its just adding more dice to do your "combos". Glad I didn't waste my money on this even though I love X-men. It is easy customer base like you that FFG is milking money from anyways.
Marvel Elder Sign... I'm sold.
Xmen for marvel champions please
Watching this in anticipation of my copy of the game! So many cool upgrades over Elder Sign and X-men is very thematic!
AMAZING ❤
This feels exactly like the star trek game
This game is great but it really needs an expansion. How about X-Force? We can definitely use more new characters like Deadpool, Cable, Domino, etc.
Need it! Was this game released already?
I think it's being released on the 26th. At least here in the US
@@rogeliodoyle9168 nice. Thanks
Don't yell if I'm wrong lol I've been wanting to get this myself and that's the date I've been seeing
Looks cool
This tutorial seems to imply that an 'Assist' is voluntary. The rulebook however states that the active hero decides wether or not to be assisted. This doesn't seem voluntary. So, which is it?
Also, couldn't Storm have assisted Cylops (in this tutorial) when he was the active player, giving him two extra die and an ability? She hasn't assisted anyone this round.
Finally, when a Sentinel is discarded is raises Threat by its '!'-ammount and not just by 1, right?
@@sneekiersnek3122 Hiya, thanks for the reply, but I think you understood me wrong. I'm not a native speaker, so that could be the problem.
However, these were my remarks: Can an assist be denied (by the Cyclops payer) or does the active player get to decide (in this case the Storm player).
In regards to the Sentinel in this video, the comment made when discarding is wrong. If the Sentinel shows two !!'s Threat is raised by two, and not just one. At least, according to the rule-book I have in front of me.
Hope this clears things up.
@@supercretin666someone answered this? I bought the game recently, i've read the rules, but this video shows those 4 dice and...why?
I want it!!!
hi
As a Marvel fan, I am willing to try this. I honestly Hate FF's current Marvel TCG/LCG, makes miss the Marvel/DC VS System TCG!
What you don't like about Marvel Champions?
Marvel Champions is (with AH) the best cooperative Cardgame by FFG... X-Men Mutant Insurrection basically is just Yahtzee with a Marvel Skin. Marvel Champions is unique and completely new.
@@SaschaKleiber It has adopted some mechanics from LotR LCG, even some cards is a carbon copy, like Nick Fury is basically Gandalf. 😂
Oceania, never heard about it
You were probably sleeping in your geography class.
Are these dice left over from the discontinued Star Wars Destiny?🤔
Or that marvel dice game
Yaaatziii oh wait... hmm pass
We need Star Wars Destiny content
Believe they discontinued Star Wars Destiny
Yes, but that is irrelevant
FFG is one of my favorite publishers.
When this was announced, I was very underwhelmed. Haven't played it yet, but it's looks very clunky. It also lacks the visual polish that FFG is known for. No minis is also a major let down.
Reviews have been mixed so far, but I think I'll have to pass.
xmen in marvel champions please
I can see there are some interesting things here, but the attempts to tell a story seem kind of diminished by some generic-feeling elements.
1) I strongly dislike cardboard standees vs. miniatures. I understand there's a cost there, but standees feel really cheap.
2) The missions show the continent as their picture. This is unnecessary, as the back of the card already shows which continent it is. It's really hard for me to get interested in a mission when all I have is a generic name and symbols for what dice I need to complete it. As these look like a primary driving point of the game, having these things be so generic is frustrating.
3) The symbols for the dice look so basic. I feel it probably would have been better to have each hero have their own set of dice, each differently colored. I get that you need the mission requirements to be relatively basic so that anyone can accomplish them, but it just feels like this was kind of the minimum effort for mission design. You could have had more than 3 symbols, and each hero would specialize better in their own set of symbols. For extra intrigue, the assistance could be a pair of dice that have extra stripes or something added on to the dice. That will communicate the assistance much more visually. That's just off the top of my head, and I think of this because it doesn't look particularly special to try achieving any of these missions as-is.
That said, there are a lot of things to love here, like the deep digs into the wide array of X-Men characters on top of the classic storylines. I'd probably be willing to play it if someone brought it to the table, but this demo did not convince me to purchase it for myself.
No Nightcrawler? This game is dead to me.
Its twin Elder Sign is a much better game than this in terms of aesthetics, components and gameplay. Example you need to remove a dice for every reroll. Give you a more thrill and dread experience. Xmen is more pure Yahtzee game. Graphics is hit and miss. Hate the bland relationship and side mission cards. And whats with standee wolverine weird long claws ?? Also they cut short with limited plastic standee holders. Another lazy franchise cash grab by FFG.
You sounds like a walking talking dice tower review without an original thought. Cool.
@@b.c.eckhoff3495 fyi I have played the original Elder Signs.. not perfect but to me personally it looks and plays much better than this semi reskin game. at least dice tower reviews dare to point the flaws of this game. And if you read my comments properly, I particularly dislike the graphics on some cards and gameplay, its straightforward point. So pls do some thinking before posting your assumptions on other ppl thoughts.
well I already saw the review of the dice tower and the review of roll for crit as well...
will it be the same as elder sign? cuz I hated elder sign - the theme, the unbalanced luck, the hard missions (my butt still hurts everytime I play it and this is not just because of the sitting on the chair part...)
I would really really really like to love it but FFG you are just doing the same all over again
you took elder sign with a retheme of the x-men and before that you just took LOTR the LCG and rethemed it to marvel champions.
well I don't even like the LCG model anymore so I really don't care about marvel champions, again my butt still hurt from elder sign and from LOTR LCG cuz they both have great app but crappy gameplay for me...
still need to know about this game for solo since this is the only way I'll play - and no I'm not going to buy marvel champions didn't like it at all
I love Elder Sign and have all its expansions and can definitely say that if you don't like it because of its mechanics and gameplay then you won't like this. I haven't watched any other reviews, so just based on this video it feels like it's about 70% Elder Sign & expansions (mutants and training are basically items and spells, sentinels are basically monsters), 20% a variation on an Elder Sign concept (they changed the way assisting other players works and reroll rules are quite different) and 10% new ideas (bonds). If you just don't like the theme (I totally get that people are tired of games with tentacles) then maybe there's something for you.
For me it's too similar to Elder Sign. The later expansions had stories so even that's not completely new. I've also been finding that FFG's artwork and game aesthetics is diverging further and further from what I like. Marvel Champions was a bit meh, I had planned to buy their new Descent until I saw the art style and now this doesn't appeal to me either. But Marvel Champions is insanely popular and seems to appeal to a younger skewing demographic so maybe the only problem is I'm too old ;) I criticise FFG for a lot but I can't blame them for re-skinning an older hit for a new audience. They have to pay those Marvel IP bills somehow. I just wish they'd release more Mansions of Madness or have the balls to tell us it's finished.
I like this version better because of the different dice pools. It makes it less luck based and more strategic as to what mutants to send where.
" that you just took LOTR the LCG and rethemed it to marvel champions" thats Bullsh..., both are extremely different (I play both).
Maybe put time and $ into the stuff people like instead of this shit. Will take a lot to get the poor Netrunner and Destiny fans back and this ain't it!
Wait you mad cuz they trying different games?
@@ThePsychosis92 How's this different? It's an Elder Sign reskin lol.
Sooo.... it´s just a Elder Signs Remake? That´s too bad...
We really really love ES, including all addons. We see no reason to buy this game. Sorry
Garbage tier game on par with that crappy Arkham Horror game they released recently. Terrible component quality as well, just FFG trying to get some dollars using the IP. Check out the Dice Tower review if you want to see more.
Garbage reviewers who give a good grade to any company that gives them a promo in their game. Tom Vasel has no idea how balance works and marks games as bad as soon as he can't beat his friends and blames it on luck. Never saw such a group of uninformed gamers. Terrible.
Just play what you like instead of listening to sellouts.
But yeah, this games looks ... bland, agreed.
@@spiritreacher Sorry maybe read what I said, and then the actual review. You already have a bias against DT obviously, which skews your argument and statement completely. The game looks like crap, as if a 5 year old mashed it together. It is using old mechanics, and is nothing of worth. On top of the component quality. But thanks for proving my point: people will defend stuff no matter what.
@@katarhall3047 No, Im actually here to point out your hypocrisy. You're bashing on it because it looks like "crappy Arkham", then when I go attack Dice Tower, you jump to defend them.
I honestly don't care about Marvel games or Dice Tower.. but Im just not a fan of fanboys/girls, or in your case hateboys/girls.
But good on you for proving MY point. :)
Again: Agree that this game doesn't look like its going to be good and its just the Marvel brand selling it, but there is a more nuanced way of putting it instead of your callous attitude.
@@spiritreacher Wrong bucko there is no hypocrisy. I already DID NOT like the game, since the initial showings of it awhile ago. I mentioned the DT review because it actually highlights the problems with it. Nice try chuckles, you failed hard. Also, notice how you don't try to argue any of the negative statements I MADE about the game? Also I love you restate "crappy Arkham", you realize that is considered the WORST game FFG ever put out, right? You focus SOLELY on the DT review mention, and clearly who your bias against them. LOL Pathetic.
@@katarhall3047 I agreed with you continuously that this Marvel game looks poor..
Also, which Arkham game is the crappy one...? There is Arkham Horror 2e, AH 3e, Eldritch Horror, Mansions of Madness, Elder Sign, The Card Game, Final Hour and I'm pretty sure I'm missing one.
Seeing how The Arkham Horror LCG is currently their best selling LCG, if not game AND that you are just blatantly ignoring my comments AND being very condescending, I think I need to conclude that you're either a troll or toxic.
So good luck with that attitude in the rest of your life. Hope it works out for you. :)
Again: still not buying this game. Still not supporting Dice Tower.
Now, the game has a very interesting mechanisms but not the most interesting theme (at least for me). Wish there was a similar game in a Star Wars universe...
I can assume, you didn't grow up watching this.
@@ThePsychosis92 Yes, never been much into X-Men, got into MCU over the last few years thanks to my wife😁
Really why Marvel why bring X-Men new animation our game for ps5 l not ask too much.