Exact same as my deck I just had it professionally done like 2 weeks ago mine turned out beautiful picture framed my deck and all 3 stairs with trex railing looks beautiful I went with toasted sand color against my brick house with white vinyl fence in yard...
When you install the outside picture frame board I think it’s best to measure back and pop a line because if you follow your 1 1/4 block and the deck isn’t perfectly straight you’ll have a bow in it wherever the deck is out because we know wood isn’t perfectly straight there for having a bow that will go the whole way back towards the house. Especially when resurfacing a deck.
@@coreyk2998he’s saying instead of attaching 1 1/4” blocks to the outside rim joist and flushing up your picture frame deck board to the blocks, it’s better to measure back on the left and right sides of the deck, then pop a chalk line. It’s likely the outside rim joist is not perfectly straight and any bows in the rim joist will be transferred into the decking installation and the bow will be noticeable in each deck board. By popping a string line, your boards will all be straight but any bows in the rim joist will be concealed bc in some places the 3/4” overhang might be +\- ≈ 1/8” which cannot be seen by the naked eye (to most people). Hope that helps.
For the two extra joists installed parallel to the out edge joists, to support the picture frame, you mentioned using Simpson L70 hangers. Do you have just 1 L70 per end on each joist stub? I'm guessing on the first one, its on the outside face, and on the second one I see its installed on the inside face (looking at time 8:08). Actually, looking at that tine mark, I'm confused about the placement of the L70 on the joist stub that is sandwiched in the middle -- is there enough space on either side for its L70? Looking at building a comparable deck right now with a 1 board picture frame, and possibly this supplemental blocking method would be easier than what I was planning.
Hello Mr. good morning or evening, what time did you read this comment... it is an excellent professional work... I have worked with many bosses and your work is that of a professional... and excellent patience to teach those of us who are starting out.. .thank you for sharing your wisdom and experience...long live you and your family...
I'm building a Trex deck that's also 12x16' and about 2' high, just like in your video. But I'm not planning on using a ledger board, and instead will have 9x 12" cement footings (in a 3x3 formation), under a freestanding deck. The beams will be resting right on the cement footings, also like in your video. My question is - how can I best install the header joist (where a ledger board would've been installed) since I don't have the benefit of working off of the ledger board and then nailing in the joist hangers for each perpendicular joist etc. Should I use temporary make-shift supports installed to the underside of a few joists so I can rest the header board on them and then remove the supports after the board is nailed in, and then install the rest of joists or lay out all the joists and save the header board for last?
Hello Allison, thank you for reaching out to us with this question. We love to see you chose Trex! For substructure installation questions, we will advise to contact your local code/building official. Since various municipalities have different attachment requirements, this is always the best way to ensure a safe installation. If you have any questions about your Trex, please feel free to call us at 1-800-289-8739. Thanks - Trex Customer Care Team
Great presentation ! When fastening down a scalloped bottom like the Enhance Naturals deck board, as you said you need to be at least an inch away from the edge or end, but does it matter if you end up putting a screw in the thinner portion of the board... or even halfway on both the thinner/thicker portion ? Or is it just better to always screw in the thicker portion ? Thanks.
What are the recommendations to fasten around the miter part of the picture frame board, any pattern in particular or just 2 screws at least an inch away from the edge and end ?
Could i do same deck using all squared edge boards, trex. I was able to purchase square trex boards at a great price. I want to use on my front porch. What's your thoughts. Linda
Hi there Linda! You can certainly still install the deck using square edge boards. You would just be fastening the boards down in a more traditional method similar to what you would see in the video where they are installing the picture frame boards. If you would like to still use the Trex Hideaway Hidden Fasteners you would need to use a router bit to route a groove in the board for the clips.
Hello, and thank you for watching Trex Academy! On this project we used 2x10 joist material. The gap present in this video was 1 1/4". This gap can vary on a couple of things, for example how much the deck boards will overhang the outside rim joist. If you have any other questions, please feel free to call us at 1-800-289-8739. Thanks - Trex Customer Care Team
Hello Nate, you could install this way if you would like. It is best to start from the perimeter and work toward the house just in case you need to rip the width of a board so that the smaller piece is next to the house. For the chalk, Most colored chalks are permanent and may discolor the surface. Use only Strait-Line® Dust-Off Marking Chalk (purple), available at Irwin www.Irwin.com. If you have any additional questions please let us know. We are here to help! Kindly, - Trex Customer Care Team
I was kinda of thinking this too, didn’t want the cut the deck panel in place to avoid cutting into the protective tape. Incase I accidentally set the blade to low and cut it.
Hi James. Thank you for reaching out with your question and your interest in Trex products. You may start your installation from the picture frame in towards the house. This will allow you to hide a ripped board against the house if need be. Please feel free to reach back out with any further questions or concerns. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Thank you for choosing Trex. Kind Regards. -Trex Customer Care
What was the length of the picture frame board on the long side (16ft) that you cut down to fit? Was it a 20 foot picture frame board? What did you use on the 12 foot side to cut down to make it fit? Very helpful video. Thanks
Hello, we manufacture both 12' and 16' profiles of most of our boards. Those can be used for picture frame applications when using the square edge profile of the boards. If you have any additional questions, feel free to reach out to us 1-800-289-8739. Thank you, Trex Customer Care Team
Hi! Thanks for reaching out to Trex! Feel free to contact us at our customer care department at 1-800-289-8739 or email us at customercare@trex.com for some tips on hiding exposed edges. -Trex Customer Care Team
The trex hidden fastener instructions say to drive the screw flush with the clip and not into it. It is not easy to get exactly flush. I'm wondering how important this is for proper installation. One way to check is to drag the bit over the seated screw head. If there is a difference, the screw can be carefully seated a bit more. On the trex approved deck screws, the ones in the installation guide are pretty hard to find especially color matched. Any tips on sources? Thanks
Hi there, thank you for reaching out to us today! The color matched composite deck screws that are approved for Trex decking can easily be found on DecksDirect.com or DIY Homecenter. Additionally, you can find the correct color match with Starborn's color matching tool. Here is a link to get there: starbornindustries.com/deck-matcher/tool We hope this helps and please give us a call at 800-289-8739 if you have any other questions. -Trex Customer Care
Hello, and great question. Trex recommends that the overhang be no more than 3/16". If you have any other questions, please feel free to reach back out. - Thank you, Trex Customer Care
Hello!! The cost of a Trex deck typically runs from $9 to $16 per square foot. Of course, that depends on where you're buying it as the dealers and retailers set their own pricing, and how much you’re purchasing. Visit our Deck Cost Calculator for a customized estimate based on a national average or use our Where to Buy tool www.trex.com/find-trex/ to find a local dealer in your area in which you can reach out and get their specific quote. Please reach out to us at 1-800-289-8739 if we can help assist in answering any further questions. Trex Customer Care
Hi Thomas! Thank you for your interest. I can look into an estimate price for you for this project, however, I wanted to include a link to our Cost Calculator on our website. By visiting this link, you will be able to input details about your plans and be provided with a rough estimate of cost concerns. www.trex.com/build-your-deck/planyourdeck/deck-cost-landing/productcalculator/. Please feel free to reach out to us at 1-800-289-8739 if you have any questions. ~ Trex Customer Care Team
Hi there! With all of our 1x6 products we have done extensive testing to determine the maximum recommend spanning is 16" on center. That being said you can still do a 12" center if you would like to as the extra support will not hurt the Trex. As long as you do not exceed the 16" maximum the boards should not sag.
It looks like the wood frame is touching to house which is something I don't want to go through again! Is there a reason trex is not put on the backside up against the house?!...It should be. Plus close off underneath with trex to avoid pests, rodents, snakes, feral animals etc. IDK...there is new steel decking out which is a definite thought.
Hello. Thank you for your interest in Trex. Trex is not used against the house as it is not for structural elements. The ledger attachment at the house is one of the main structural elements of a deck build. Flashing this area is very important to reduce the chance of any rot or decay. On Trex Academy ruclips.net/video/tTtLOrC3YqI/видео.html we have a ledger flashing video that may be of help in this situation. Covering the deck underneath to avoid pests is common and done on a lot of decks but is a personal preference and there are a lot of options to doing that. Yes, steel framing is available, and it may be an option for some. Please feel free to reach back out with any further questions or concerns. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Thank you. -Trex Customer Care 1.800.289.8739 | customercare@trex.com
Why is that dude wearing gloves? Lol he's not laying block, for god sakes, he's putting plastic boards down. I'm guessing marketing has an opinion on this topic
I get what you’re saying. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt that this install was during a hot summer day and the decking material was 160 degrees Fahrenheit. I’d wear gloves for that too
Exact same as my deck I just had it professionally done like 2 weeks ago mine turned out beautiful picture framed my deck and all 3 stairs with trex railing looks beautiful I went with toasted sand color against my brick house with white vinyl fence in yard...
Cost?
Cost close to 9k have 25 year warranty
Nice.
Do you have a more detail video on the stairs. Like to see how you got the size of the steps and putting together.
Thank you very much for providing this video. The deck construction is truly professionally done in this video. I'm very impressed with the deck.
Absolutely a great presentation.
Great video!
When you install the outside picture frame board I think it’s best to measure back and pop a line because if you follow your 1 1/4 block and the deck isn’t perfectly straight you’ll have a bow in it wherever the deck is out because we know wood isn’t perfectly straight there for having a bow that will go the whole way back towards the house. Especially when resurfacing a deck.
Can you explain ? Not sure I understand…thx
@@coreyk2998he’s saying instead of attaching 1 1/4” blocks to the outside rim joist and flushing up your picture frame deck board to the blocks, it’s better to measure back on the left and right sides of the deck, then pop a chalk line. It’s likely the outside rim joist is not perfectly straight and any bows in the rim joist will be transferred into the decking installation and the bow will be noticeable in each deck board. By popping a string line, your boards will all be straight but any bows in the rim joist will be concealed bc in some places the 3/4” overhang might be +\- ≈ 1/8” which cannot be seen by the naked eye (to most people). Hope that helps.
For the two extra joists installed parallel to the out edge joists, to support the picture frame, you mentioned using Simpson L70 hangers. Do you have just 1 L70 per end on each joist stub? I'm guessing on the first one, its on the outside face, and on the second one I see its installed on the inside face (looking at time 8:08). Actually, looking at that tine mark, I'm confused about the placement of the L70 on the joist stub that is sandwiched in the middle -- is there enough space on either side for its L70? Looking at building a comparable deck right now with a 1 board picture frame, and possibly this supplemental blocking method would be easier than what I was planning.
Hello Mr. good morning or evening, what time did you read this comment... it is an excellent professional work... I have worked with many bosses and your work is that of a professional... and excellent patience to teach those of us who are starting out.. .thank you for sharing your wisdom and experience...long live you and your family...
This was awesome. He's a great teacher.
Me, who wished all pressure treated wood looked as perfect as this, instead of the garbage available
very good job and great information
I'm building a Trex deck that's also 12x16' and about 2' high, just like in your video. But I'm not planning on using a ledger board, and instead will have 9x 12" cement footings (in a 3x3 formation), under a freestanding deck. The beams will be resting right on the cement footings, also like in your video.
My question is - how can I best install the header joist (where a ledger board would've been installed) since I don't have the benefit of working off of the ledger board and then nailing in the joist hangers for each perpendicular joist etc. Should I use temporary make-shift supports installed to the underside of a few joists so I can rest the header board on them and then remove the supports after the board is nailed in, and then install the rest of joists or lay out all the joists and save the header board for last?
Hello Allison, thank you for reaching out to us with this question. We love to see you chose Trex! For substructure installation questions, we will advise to contact your local code/building official. Since various municipalities have different attachment requirements, this is always the best way to ensure a safe installation. If you have any questions about your Trex, please feel free to call us at 1-800-289-8739. Thanks - Trex Customer Care Team
Great presentation ! When fastening down a scalloped bottom like the Enhance Naturals deck board, as you said you need to be at least an inch away from the edge or end, but does it matter if you end up putting a screw in the thinner portion of the board... or even halfway on both the thinner/thicker portion ? Or is it just better to always screw in the thicker portion ? Thanks.
Great work everyone!
What are the recommendations to fasten around the miter part of the picture frame board, any pattern in particular or just 2 screws at least an inch away from the edge and end ?
Not really a how-to video if you don't show the framing.
Step 1: Pour footings, install ledger, build structure
Step 2: Take your first Trex board…
Could i do same deck using all squared edge boards, trex. I was able to purchase square trex boards at a great price. I want to use on my front porch. What's your thoughts. Linda
Hi there Linda! You can certainly still install the deck using square edge boards. You would just be fastening the boards down in a more traditional method similar to what you would see in the video where they are installing the picture frame boards. If you would like to still use the Trex Hideaway Hidden Fasteners you would need to use a router bit to route a groove in the board for the clips.
Why wouldn’t you use the starter clips on the second board instead of screwing in through the top?
compozite will take the sun well? my deck will be in a sunny area!
Yes
Thanks for the video. What is the gap between the 2 Blocking Joist, and are you using 2x12 for you Joist?
Hello, and thank you for watching Trex Academy! On this project we used 2x10 joist material. The gap present in this video was 1 1/4". This gap can vary on a couple of things, for example how much the deck boards will overhang the outside rim joist. If you have any other questions, please feel free to call us at 1-800-289-8739. Thanks - Trex Customer Care Team
@@TheTrexCo Thank you
Hello, do you have a video screen porch? that is separated from the house
So, by hanging 16" OC and blocking allows you to not use a beam??
Can I start from the house wall working the other way?
Thanks
i thought u are doing a free standing one
Is it a bad idea to complete the whole pocture frame and then lay all your deck boards afterward so you have to use the chalk line and make that cut?
Hello Nate, you could install this way if you would like. It is best to start from the perimeter and work toward the house just in case you need to rip the width of a board so that the smaller piece is next to the house. For the chalk, Most colored chalks are permanent and may discolor the surface. Use only Strait-Line® Dust-Off Marking Chalk (purple), available at Irwin www.Irwin.com. If you have any additional questions please let us know. We are here to help! Kindly, - Trex Customer Care Team
I was kinda of thinking this too, didn’t want the cut the deck panel in place to avoid cutting into the protective tape. Incase I accidentally set the blade to low and cut it.
I dont see why it would be a big deal so long as your layout and cuts are PRECISE....
Hi James. Thank you for reaching out with your question and your interest in Trex products. You may start your installation from the picture frame in towards the house. This will allow you to hide a ripped board against the house if need be. Please feel free to reach back out with any further questions or concerns. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Thank you for choosing Trex. Kind Regards. -Trex Customer Care
What was the length of the picture frame board on the long side (16ft) that you cut down to fit? Was it a 20 foot picture frame board? What did you use on the 12 foot side to cut down to make it fit? Very helpful video.
Thanks
Hello, we manufacture both 12' and 16' profiles of most of our boards. Those can be used for picture frame applications when using the square edge profile of the boards. If you have any additional questions, feel free to reach out to us 1-800-289-8739. Thank you, Trex Customer Care Team
dont have the mitter saw...is it absolutelly necessary?
still need to hide the cut deck board to the picture frame board. leaving a gap you can see the raw edge
Hi! Thanks for reaching out to Trex! Feel free to contact us at our customer care department at 1-800-289-8739 or email us at customercare@trex.com for some tips on hiding exposed edges. -Trex Customer Care Team
Put the 4×4 on the outside. Cleaner no cutting and stronger rail.
You cannot put it on the outside by code anymore.
Does anyone know how much you can charge for a job like this, material and labor?
The trex hidden fastener instructions say to drive the screw flush with the clip and not into it. It is not easy to get exactly flush. I'm wondering how important this is for proper installation. One way to check is to drag the bit over the seated screw head. If there is a difference, the screw can be carefully seated a bit more. On the trex approved deck screws, the ones in the installation guide are pretty hard to find especially color matched. Any tips on sources? Thanks
Hi there, thank you for reaching out to us today! The color matched composite deck screws that are approved for Trex decking can easily be found on DecksDirect.com or DIY Homecenter. Additionally, you can find the correct color match with Starborn's color matching tool. Here is a link to get there: starbornindustries.com/deck-matcher/tool
We hope this helps and please give us a call at 800-289-8739 if you have any other questions. -Trex Customer Care
Composite decking is much more flemsy than wood. I thought it was supposed to be a maximum of 12 inch center for the framing because of that.
Depends on the brand. Many are now 16 oc
How many inches is the over hang ?
Hello, and great question. Trex recommends that the overhang be no more than 3/16". If you have any other questions, please feel free to reach back out. - Thank you, Trex Customer Care
What’s the black tape on all the lumber?
Hello Zaepian, the black tape is our Trex Protect Tape! Please follow the link for more info: trexprotect.com/ Kindly, - Trex Customer Care Team
What's the cost of a deck this size start to finish
Hello!! The cost of a Trex deck typically runs from $9 to $16 per square foot. Of course, that depends on where you're buying it as the dealers and retailers set their own pricing, and how much you’re purchasing. Visit our Deck Cost Calculator for a customized estimate based on a national average or use our Where to Buy tool www.trex.com/find-trex/ to find a local dealer in your area in which you can reach out and get their specific quote. Please reach out to us at 1-800-289-8739 if we can help assist in answering any further questions.
Trex Customer Care
What difference does the color of the chalk make?
Black chalk and red chalk stain the composite material... so stay away from those when installing decks
How much did it cost????
Hi Thomas! Thank you for your interest. I can look into an estimate price for you for this project, however, I wanted to include a link to our Cost Calculator on our website. By visiting this link, you will be able to input details about your plans and be provided with a rough estimate of cost concerns. www.trex.com/build-your-deck/planyourdeck/deck-cost-landing/productcalculator/. Please feel free to reach out to us at 1-800-289-8739 if you have any questions. ~ Trex Customer Care Team
good stuff thank you
How much does this COST for materials?
To Much $$$$$
Where's the video on how to build the deck frame?
Hi there! Here's the link to one of our Trex academy videos on building the deck frame: ruclips.net/video/glRLIOOeb-o/видео.html
16” on center? I heard 12?
Hi there! With all of our 1x6 products we have done extensive testing to determine the maximum recommend spanning is 16" on center. That being said you can still do a 12" center if you would like to as the extra support will not hurt the Trex. As long as you do not exceed the 16" maximum the boards should not sag.
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The risers don't sit on top of the treads?
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Beautiful deck. But I felt way to complicated.
HOW TO BUILD A DECK
"Step 1: Starting with a completed pressure treated lumber frame...."
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It looks like the wood frame is touching to house which is something I don't want to go through again! Is there a reason trex is not put on the backside up against the house?!...It should be. Plus close off underneath with trex to avoid pests, rodents, snakes, feral animals etc. IDK...there is new steel decking out which is a definite thought.
Hello. Thank you for your interest in Trex. Trex is not used against the house as it is not for structural elements. The ledger attachment at the house is one of the main structural elements of a deck build. Flashing this area is very important to reduce the chance of any rot or decay. On Trex Academy ruclips.net/video/tTtLOrC3YqI/видео.html we have a ledger flashing video that may be of help in this situation. Covering the deck underneath to avoid pests is common and done on a lot of decks but is a personal preference and there are a lot of options to doing that. Yes, steel framing is available, and it may be an option for some. Please feel free to reach back out with any further questions or concerns. Someone from our Customer Care Team will be more than happy to assist. Thank you. -Trex Customer Care 1.800.289.8739 | customercare@trex.com
Look Michael Cole, ain’t nobody wearing fingerless gloves like Eminem in the early 2000’s to put together a deck.
Why is that dude wearing gloves? Lol he's not laying block, for god sakes, he's putting plastic boards down. I'm guessing marketing has an opinion on this topic
More products HD sells they can show off
I get what you’re saying. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt that this install was during a hot summer day and the decking material was 160 degrees Fahrenheit. I’d wear gloves for that too
Trex decking is to hot to walk on you will burn your feet regular pressure treated is all you need
Doesn’t look like pt wood
How much you usually charge for that size of deck?
$1,000,000
Thanks